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  1.   Rusty posted:
  08.30.2009 - 10:52 pm
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First Nationwide race since Las Vegas in which Kyle Busch did not lead a
lap.

Awesome finish, Montreal must not like Marcos Ambrose.


  2.   mark posted:
  08.30.2009 - 11:14 pm
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24 hours of Montreal. Hated to see Marcos lost the race on the last
corner of the race.


  3.   18fan posted:
  08.31.2009 - 1:17 am
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The bottom half of the top 10 was altered by the spins in turn 2 on the
restart with two laps to go. In the time I watched (the last 20 laps),
Steven Wallace must have wrecked half the field. Ambrose might have a
curse on him at this track. Great run for Andrew Ranger.
This was also the longest race in Busch/Nationwide Series history in
terms of time.


  4.   Smokefan05 posted:
  08.31.2009 - 2:37 am
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Marcos had them covered but people couldn't stop wrecking every 5 seconds.
Whoever was in the #86 car has NO talent. EVERYONE was doing their best
John Wes Townley impression today.
JV did a very good job. Gave the homies something to cheer about. Tony
Raines did very good job. And a shout out to Paul Menard, to me atleast
he showed to have some talent.
And the Canada fans love their racing. Stayied even in the rain. If they
keep showing up on a year to year bases, Cup may make a stop up there.
They are very easy to please, unlike most NASCAR fans who are VERY hard
to please. It was a wreckfest (i expected as much) but i enjoyied it.


  5.   CarlEdwards99 posted:
  08.31.2009 - 4:56 am
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-great to see Carl win his first ever road course race. Even if it is
just the Nationwide series

-it was also great to see the new, mature Kyle Busch again, the media
called that one right (rolls eyes)

-the big point I got out of this race is though, racing in the rain
makes the sport look bad. It's like watching a NFL game when both teams
have bad QB play, you are watching the game thinking to yourself (me and
my buddies could play like this in our backyard). There was wrecks every
lap, world class drivers missing marks, etc. It was just a F grade product


  6.   Canadianfan posted:
  08.31.2009 - 8:03 am
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This was a disaster to watch. I think this race should be moved to
Mosport to a much better track. It is much closer to Toronto and the
border. Just looking at it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosport it seems
like a much more NASCAR friendlier track. I would like to hear your
thoughts on what you think.


  7.   Ambrose_fan posted:
  08.31.2009 - 8:14 am
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It was absolutely heartbraking to see Marcos lose that race, although
this time it was entirely his own doing (I am of the belief that NASCAR
robbed him of the win in the previous two Montreal races).

Carl Edwards did everything right by putting himself in the position to
win and racing clean. I have no doubt that others in his position
wouldn't have been so patient.

The amount of caution laps was insanely frustrating as well. I mean, how
long does it take to sweep some kitty litter off the track or pick up a
metal pole?

And finally, NASCAR has made two attempts at the whole rain thing. This
year was certainly an improvement, but they really need to step it up
next year. That means none of this "red flag to prepare the car"
nonsense. If they're going to run in the rain, wipers and tailights
should be mandatory on all road course cars, that way we don't waste
time bolting them on mid race. They should also look at introducing
windscreens with built in de-misters, similar to what you find in the
rear window of a road car. These work wonders in other championships,
and a certainly a lot more professional than a mop (what a joke!).

Overall, an entertaining race, although there are plenty of things
NASCAR could have done to make it better.


  8.   Bronco posted:
  08.31.2009 - 8:57 am
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Easily one of the best Nationwide races this year, and it just goes to
show that NASCAR needs to include more road courses in the schedule.
Marcos Ambrose was flawless all day, but the only mistake he made cost
him the race. I've made the same sort of mistake a number of times
playing racing video games over the years.

Three Quebec drivers ended up in the top 10, Ranger, Villeneuve and
Dumoulin. Indycar driver Alex Tagliani made his debut and was running in
the top 10 before getting spun. Gaughan and Kes spun at least twice but
still finished in the top 10. And I really hated to see Ron Fellows just
get wrecked like that.

McDowell continues to impress me. He has 5 straight lead lap finishes
with a team that is barely better than a start and park team. This
improves that he has talent, but he wasn't ready for Cup last year.

This race also set a record for being the longest race in Nationwide
history, as well having the most cautions for a road course race.


  9.   Timmy Quivy posted:
  08.31.2009 - 11:01 am
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Re CanadianFan:

Yes, it was a disaster to watch because this year there were so many
cautions and guys out of control. That would probably more due to the
double file restarts and I think (after two years at CGV) there was a
lot more pressure on the Nationwide-only guys to run well since they
should be "used to it by now". The poinit is, this year was probably an
anomaly. There were 5 cautions the first two years.

As for Mosport, while I never side with NASCAR's need to be in a big
market, The Quebec fans so completely love this race and this track has
so much tradition, a beautiful landscape, and good facilities, it makes
perfect sense for them to race there. Mosport is a nice track - the
Canadian Tire boys put on a good show there - but it would not be as
well attended and I don't think it would have the facilities to deal
with the demand.


  10.   Timmy Quivy posted:
  08.31.2009 - 11:02 am
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P.S. Shoutout of the Race - Michael McDowell. Took a team that normally
S & P's, drove an OVAL TRACK car to finish 11th. Moreover, was running
in the top-five earlier in the event and actually passing some of the
most competitive cars of the day (Papis and Menard) before he got spun
out in one of the Turn 2 fiascos.


  11.   Dion posted:
  08.31.2009 - 1:00 pm
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Ladies and Gentleman, get ready for Wreck a Mania!

Steve Wallace going for the world record for most wrecks in a race (I
think atleast 4, possibly 5 times...there was the time he spun into the
sand trap and got out, the time he slid thru the grass and into 5 cars,
the time he got hit by the 86 and spun out and hit the 20 car, the 86
wrecked him another time, and I think i missed another 1 or 2
atleast...) and thru all of that, he finished 16th.

Jean-Francois Dumoulin had a totaled race car and finished 7th...his car
was a smoker for the last 2 laps...

Career best runs for Ranger, Villeneuve,Dumoulin,Antonio Perez, Voctor
Gonzalez, and brett rowe (tied his best finish).

3 Drivers Made their debut:
Dumoulin finished 7th
Victor Gonzalez finished 14th (and is the first driver from P.R.)
Alex Tagliani finished in 26th.

-------

Tony Raines got his 2nd top 10 of the season.

The supposedly last race of the year for Brad Coleman


  12.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
  08.31.2009 - 1:08 pm
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Heartbreak for Ambrose. Great job by Carl to get close enough to put
pressure on Marcos.

What is the NASCAR record for most spins in a race? Rusty's Boy had to
be close at the end. I know they weren't all his fault, but on that last
one he looked like a bowling ball sliding through the grass and knocking
the pins (cars) over.

"-it was also great to see the new, mature Kyle Busch again, the media
called that one right (rolls eyes)"

Exactly. I knew that wouldn't last. Wouldn't it be funny if he choked
away the Nationwide title?


  13.   CFob posted:
  08.31.2009 - 1:34 pm
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Saying Edwards drove clean is laughable. Every time he restarted behind
Andrew Ranger in the closing parts of the race, he would move him out of
the way to get past him.

And on the last restart Carl was in the grass, slid up and doored Ranger
to get past him for second. Had Edwards raced Andrew Ranger clean,
Ranger or Ambrose would have won, and I would have been happy about it.
But instead I got to watch Cousin Carl bully his way past Ranger and
slam Ambrose.

Hell, if Ambrose hadn't hopped the curb, Carl probably would've moved
him out of the way too, judging by how he treated the car he passed to
get there.

I used to like Carl, but this race really soured me on him.


  14.   Anonymous posted:
  08.31.2009 - 4:09 pm
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CFob, I'm completely baffled that you're going off about Edwards. Ranger
drove completely dirty. Carl Edwards only clipped the grass on the final
restart because Andrew Ranger drove him straight into it. Carl wasn't
backing out at that point, and moved Ranger up the track while trying to
get going again. He did not move Ranger out of the way every time he was
behind him, despite what you hope. Maybe you should watch the race again...


  15.   Anonymous posted:
  08.31.2009 - 5:16 pm
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CFob is right. Carl nearly drove Ranger off the track about 2 restarts
earlier. Can't blame Ranger for not letting that happen again. He also
punted Marcos on another restart, and he ran into the back of Kyle once
as well.

And the person who said racing in the rain looks bad, those wrecks had
nothing to do with rain. They did it fine last year.

Why was Kyle mad? He somehow finished 10th after being in the 20's with
2 to go.


  16.   Kirkyal posted:
  08.31.2009 - 5:18 pm
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Please tell me the #16 wasn't a start and park?!


  17.   Bronco posted:
  08.31.2009 - 6:11 pm
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"Please tell me the #16 wasn't a start and park?!"

They weren't. The engine blew up on lap 2 and caused the first caution.

"What is the NASCAR record for most spins in a race? Rusty's Boy had to
be close at the end. I know they weren't all his fault, but on that last
one he looked like a bowling ball sliding through the grass and knocking
the pins (cars) over."

Watching Steve crashing all day was pretty funny. I loved how he tried
making it three wide going into turn 1 on a restart, clipped the grass,
and took out like 5 cars. And somehow, he still finished 16th, on the
lead lap and even moved up to 5th in points!

I hope I can score some tickets to this race next year, hopefully the
weather holds up and Carl can repeat.


  18.   Smokefan05 posted:
  08.31.2009 - 6:28 pm
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Carl thought his front bumper was invincible because he used it on about
every restart. He tapped Ranger on more than once, and as someone else
said punted Marcos and Kyle too. Andrew Ranger DID not back down from
him. Ranger impressed the hell outta me. I hope someone gives him a shot
at a full time ride. In terms of Carl, i have no respect for him. I used
too but not anymore.


  19.   Talon64 posted:
  08.31.2009 - 7:36 pm
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It's amazing how people rag on Kyle for being so aggressive on the track
when Carl bumps and wrecks people even more. A handful of his wins the
past couple years have been due to moving people out of the way at some
point.


  20.   Mike posted:
  08.31.2009 - 8:42 pm
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It's amazing how people rag on Kyle for being so aggressive on the track
when Carl bumps and wrecks people even more. A handful of his wins the
past couple years have been due to moving people out of the way at some
point.
Talon64 | 08.31.09 - 7:36 pm

Kyle is a immature spoiled brat, and Carl is not.

The best Nationwide race of the year IMO. It was great to see Carl win
and take another nice chunk out of Kyle's points lead. It would be
something if Carl can come back and win the championship.


  21.   Anonymous posted:
  08.31.2009 - 9:33 pm
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"I loved how he tried making it three wide going into turn 1 on a
restart, clipped the grass, and took out like 5 cars."

Yeah he clipped the grass when the #05 (some Mexican "road course
expert") drove him into it. An overaggressive move nonetheless, but
preventable by both.


  22.   Ambrose_fan posted:
  08.31.2009 - 10:20 pm
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"And the person who said racing in the rain looks bad, those wrecks had
nothing to do with rain. They did it fine last year."

I'm not talking about the wrecks, I'm talking about the (lack of)
professionalism shown by NASCAR. The drivers do an excellent job with
what they've got, but NASCAR reall has no clue what they're doing. Like
I said, go watch another series that races in the rain and straight away
you'll pick up on how much work is still left to be done before these
cars are actually good to run in the rain.


  23.   CFob posted:
  08.31.2009 - 10:44 pm
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"CFob, I'm completely baffled that you're going off about Edwards.
Ranger drove completely dirty. Carl Edwards only clipped the grass on
the final restart because Andrew Ranger drove him straight into it. Carl
wasn't backing out at that point, and moved Ranger up the track while
trying to get going again. He did not move Ranger out of the way every
time he was behind him, despite what you hope. Maybe you should watch
the race again... "

I think YOU need to watch the race again. I'd imagine Ranger may not
have given Carl room on that last restart because of how Carl had driven
him the last few restarts before that (last few as in Carl drove Ranger
dirty on multiple restarts).

And I didn't hope Ranger got moved out of the way, I watched it happen
time and time and time and time again.

Your sense of denial is cute, but you can only deny the truth before so
long, and then you just look foolish.


  24.   Andrew posted:
  09.01.2009 - 1:47 am
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Those new rain tires worked great. It's a shame the drivers didn't have
the common sense to use them properly.


  25.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
  09.01.2009 - 1:18 pm
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"It's amazing how people rag on Kyle for being so aggressive on the
track when Carl bumps and wrecks people even more."

It's not Kyle's aggression that turns us off, it's his attitude. He can
be agressive all he wants, but when the shoe is on the other foot, he
pitches a fit. Hell, look at Watkins Glen. Ambrose didn't even touch him
and he still got pissed off because it was an aggressive move.

Compare Carl Edwards' reaction immediately after his Spring Talladega
crash to Kyle's reaction after his Summer Daytona crash an entire week
later. Carl can dish out the heat, but he can also take it. Kyle think
the world revolves around him and that everyone should just roll over
for him.

Yes Carl is agressive, and yes he is stealing the spotlight in the
Nationwide Series just like Kyle. But at least he is (publically) humble
and gracious about it.

Also compare Carl's reaction towards his Cup pit crew after they cost
him the Texas race and Kyle after his pit crew cost him the Bristol
Busch race.


  26.   WallaceFan posted:
  09.01.2009 - 2:13 pm
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Longest race in Busch Series history, and one of the best.

Great Run by Andrew Ranger. Watching this guy in the CTS and now in Cup,
hes nuts, very aggresive.

Dumoulin had barely any car left when he crossed the finish line, and it
was smoking like mad.

Tagliani was top 10 before the last incident, in which Carl got loose,
and Keselowski spun Kyle Busch which in turn took out Menard. (real good
run for him.)

Steve wrecked 5 different times. (Drove off into the gravel and spun,
wrecked by 86 under caution, wrecked by 86 under green, spun by Tony
Raines collecting Coleman, and forced into the grass by the 05 taking
out half the top 10.)
STILL FINISHED 16th, and TOP 5 in points!

Im wondering why the 86 didnt get penalized for the one under
caution..but oh well.

To give an example about how many crashes there were....

One restart near the end of the race Steve started 25th. After 6
seperate incidents, he moved up to 12th, before being spun by Tony
Raines. And crossed the line 23rd.
THAT WAS ONE LAP OF RACING!
7 incidents, 1 caution, and you could gain over 10 spots.


  27.   Anonymous posted:
  09.01.2009 - 2:18 pm
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Kenny Wallace normal sponsor Border Patrol was not allowed, so he had
over 5000 fans donated $20 each, and in turn placed there names on his car.


  28.   Dodge posted:
  09.01.2009 - 3:01 pm
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Kenny Wallace normal sponsor Border Patrol was not allowed, so he had
over 5000 fans donated $20 each, and in turn placed there names on his car

It wasn't that is was not allowed. The Border Patrol said they only
sponsor races that are run in the USA.


  29.   Bronco posted:
  09.01.2009 - 4:56 pm
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"Also compare Carl's reaction towards his Cup pit crew after they cost
him the Texas race and Kyle after his pit crew cost him the Bristol
Busch race."

Shrub: "The last f****** pitstop, every f****** time I come to this
f****** racetrack, Y'ALL SUCK!"

Carl on the other hand didn't trash his crew over the radio, knowing
that he's cost them races before in the past. However the following
Monday the tire changer who dropped the lugnut was fired. We'll never
know why, but I'd like to think Carl being the nice guy that he is,
wasn't behind that.


  30.   Anonymous posted:
  09.01.2009 - 6:41 pm
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"I'm not talking about the wrecks, I'm talking about the (lack of)
professionalism shown by NASCAR."

I agree with this. My comment about racing in the rain was in response
to CarlEdwards99. NASCAR doesn't know what they're doing on road courses
period. So many full course cautions that weren't needed. I don't get
why so many people thought it was a great race. It was embarrassing.
NASCAR was on an international stage and they put on a demo derby, not a
race.


  31.   Anonymous posted:
  09.01.2009 - 9:25 pm
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That's funny CFob. I'm not even a Carl Edwards fan. You said he moved
him EVERY restart that he was behind him, and that is not true. Contact
occurred a couple of times, and normally only while Ranger was blocking
Carl while he was already there. It did not happen EVERY time, despite
what you want to think, and that is 100% factual. Once again, I am not
even a Carl Edwards fan. Ranger has a history of driving twice as dirty
as Carl Edwards... just watch any CASCAR race ever.


  32.   Anonymous posted:
  09.01.2009 - 9:29 pm
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Wallacefan - The 86 didn't get penalized for intentionally wrecking
Steve Wallace twice because it was a Mexican driver, so that would be
considered racist.

On a serious note, that really was ridiculous driving and should have
resulted in him getting parked. Remember when Steve Wallace tried to
side swipe Keselowski at Memphis back in 07? He didn't even hit
Keselowski, and they parked him. Perez intentionally wrecks him twice,
and gets nothing. Normally retaliations are the result of getting
completely wrecked. Perez was retaliating for getting bumped in a
braking zone, which didn't result in anything at all. It was obviously
an accident. Perez came out of the ordeal looking completely classless
and ridiculous.


  33.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
  09.02.2009 - 1:10 pm
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"We'll never know why, but I'd like to think Carl being the nice guy
that he is, wasn't behind that."

Probably Jack Roush. That guy has a hair trigger when it comes to firing
people. Look at Pat Tryson. He got fired from the Biff's team (against
Greg's wishes) after a few weeks, then totally resurrected the #2 team
with Kurt Busch.


  34.   Talon64 posted:
  09.02.2009 - 6:17 pm
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It's not Kyle's aggression that turns us off, it's his attitude. He can
be agressive all he wants, but when the shoe is on the other foot, he
pitches a fit. Hell, look at Watkins Glen. Ambrose didn't even touch him
and he still got pissed off because it was an aggressive move.

Compare Carl Edwards' reaction immediately after his Spring Talladega
crash to Kyle's reaction after his Summer Daytona crash an entire week
later. Carl can dish out the heat, but he can also take it. Kyle think
the world revolves around him and that everyone should just roll over
for him.

Yes Carl is agressive, and yes he is stealing the spotlight in the
Nationwide Series just like Kyle. But at least he is (publically) humble
and gracious about it.

Also compare Carl's reaction towards his Cup pit crew after they cost
him the Texas race and Kyle after his pit crew cost him the Bristol
Busch race.
DaleSrFanForever | 09.01.09 - 1:18 pm

To me, that's where Carl comes off two-faced. He bumps and wrecks on the
track and then goes into white cowboy mode in front of the camera
(although Carl does get credit for being respectful to his crew). At
least Kyle is consistent lol.


  35.   Willy on Wheels posted:
  09.05.2009 - 3:43 pm
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The 1 team's bad finish streak continues. That nasty team deserves it
for letting go of Mike Bliss.


  36.   CFob posted:
  09.07.2009 - 2:47 am
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"That's funny CFob. I'm not even a Carl Edwards fan. You said he moved
him EVERY restart that he was behind him, and that is not true. Contact
occurred a couple of times, and normally only while Ranger was blocking
Carl while he was already there. It did not happen EVERY time, despite
what you want to think, and that is 100% factual. Once again, I am not
even a Carl Edwards fan. Ranger has a history of driving twice as dirty
as Carl Edwards... just watch any CASCAR race ever."

Ranger wasn't blocking, he was running the preferred line in the corner
Edwards moved him in every single time he did it! So, if Ranger was
running a "blocking" line in that corner, Ole Carl must've been blocking
the guy behind him, who was blocking the guy behind him, who was
blocking the guy behind him. It wasn't a blocking move Ranger was doing.
And get this: I don't hate Carl Edwards, so, whatever your status is
regarding Carl is irrelevant.

If you want to be nit-picky and annoyingly literal, than you would be
correct, I am sure Carl did not hit Ranger EVERY time. But to say Carl
raced Ranger clean more than he raced him rough is NOT 100% factual.

Also, while Ranger may drive others dirty in NASCAR Canadian Tire Series
competition, I am referring to what happened in this race. In fact,
whenever I get the chance to watch Canadian Tire Series races, I usually
root for someone other than Ranger to win! However, I would have liked
to see him get treated with some respect in the Nationwide Series (And
hell, I would have also liked to see someone who isn't a Cup guy win a
Nationwide series race).


  37.   martin-n-rusty posted:
  08.12.2010 - 8:02 am
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A year afterwords, I still contend that if...

1. These guys had more road racing expeirence

2. These guys had more experience in the rain

3. Didn't do double file restarts...

You wouldn't of had half those spins and wrecks.

I would chalk it up to inexperience.


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  40.   RaceFanX posted:
  01.17.2017 - 10:14 am
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Impressive top-6 in this one with a NASCAR Xfinity Series champ, a V8
Supercars champ, a NASCAR Pinty's Series champ, a Formula 1 World
Champion, a NASCAR Monster Energy Cup champ, and an ASA champ all at the
front in that order respectively.


  41.   Yeet posted:
  03.23.2020 - 6:51 pm
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The two MSRP Motorsports entries gained a total of $63,518 for
completing a combined total of 1 lap in this race.

It would be instances such as this which essentially made NASCAR
significantly cut the purse for the lower half of the field in the
coming years as well as introduce 40 car fields starting in 2013.


  42.   SweetRich21/43 posted:
  08.03.2020 - 1:29 am
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The commentators consisted of Marty Reid, Andy Petree and Rusty Wallace.
The pit road reporters were Dave Burns, Jamie Little and Shannon Spake.


  43.   thecautionlightnews posted:
  09.23.2020 - 5:13 pm
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Victor Gonzalez Jr. becomes the first Puerto Rican to race in the
Nationwide Series.


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