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  1.   Kit posted:
  09.26.2009 - 10:06 pm
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Nice to see some non-Cup regulars in the top 10 for a change.


  2.   Bronco posted:
  09.26.2009 - 10:10 pm
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John Wrecks Weekly recorded his first top 10 qualifying run in the
series. Looks like Travis Kvapil and Boris Said must have taught him how
not to wreck the car before the race even begins. Good to see Morgan
Shepherd finally make the race after 5 straight DNQs which forced him to
almost shut down his operation.

Start and Parking is getting out hand. 8 cars out of the race by lap 10
is disgusting.

Denny Hamlin was solidly in the top 5 before Kes wrecked him, and he had
some choice words for him afterwards.

Mike Bliss finishes 2nd in this race for the 2nd straight year, giving
the #11 their best run of the season.

Good runs for Scott Wimmer and Tony Raines in their underfunded rides.
Steve Wallace also jumped into the top 5 in points.


  3.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
  09.26.2009 - 10:37 pm
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Denny Hamlin, go eat a bag of shit!!

His interview after the wreck was totally ridiculous. First of all, the
wreck was his fault. They were in the middle of the corner, Brad got his
nose under Denny cleanly, then Denny came down and wrecked himself.

Then he goes on about Brad not understanding how to race like the Cup
guys, and that in Cup they do this and in Cup they do that. Guess what
Diva Hamlin: THIS WASN'T A CUP RACE YOU PAMPERED UNDERACHIEVING
ASSHOLE!!! It was a Nationwide race, and Brad is a Nationwide regular.
Don't bring Cup into this. I HATE, I ABSOLUTELY HATE the way these Cup
guys walk into a Nationwide race and expect it to just be their personal
playground. Like Charlotte last year, he just expects everyone to roll
over for him. Get a grip loser.

And then he talks about how Brad won't pan out in in Cup. First off, who
the hell is he to say who will and won't be successful? He is only
winning 1 or 2 races a year while his teammate Kyle Busch, driving the
same equipment, is winning 8 times a year. He has 12 wins in 2 years at
JGR while Denny has just 3 over that span. So he has no right to run
ANYBODY down (except Dale Jr). And in Denny's first three years at JGR,
Tony won 9 times compared to Denny's 4. Meanwhile Brad won a Cup race as
a part timer in a car that mostly does start and parks.

So Denny, kiss my ass. Yeah, you're rich and pampered and famous and
have big houses and private jets and girls that wouldn't be caught dead
with you if you weren't rich and I'm just scraping by. But I'm not
standing around asking for handouts like you are and talking down to
better people trying to sound like a big shot when I have deceptively
mediocre stats. It's like Charlie Daniels said: "I ain't asking nobody
for nothing if I can't get it on my own." Meanwhile Denny wants everyone
to give him everything even though he hasn't earned that right (assuming
that could be a right, which it can't).


  4.   Bronco posted:
  09.26.2009 - 10:59 pm
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"Meanwhile Brad won a Cup race as a part timer in a car that mostly does
start and parks."

Lol, you do know that the car Brad ran at Talladega was an ex-Hendrick
car, meaning it was never gonna start and park? Whenever Brad races in
the #09 he gets ex-Hendrick cars while Marlin and Bliss drive start and
park Dodges.

"And in Denny's first three years at JGR, Tony won 9 times compared to
Denny's 4"

Wrong, Tony won 8 times. Talladega last year doesn't count.

"He has 12 wins in 2 years at JGR while Denny has just 3 over that span."

Jeff Gordon won 69 races from 1994-2004 while his teammate Terry Labonte
won only 12. I guess he was an underachieving asshole as well.

You can hate Denny Hamlin all you want - just don't try and tell me's a
mediocre driver.


  5.   RCRandPenskeGuy posted:
  09.26.2009 - 11:45 pm
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I was pulling for Mike Bliss to win this race just to send a little bit
of smite over to the #1 team, but his run today should help him in his
search for employment.

I'm really pissed at Denny as well, it's ridiculous how he comes down
into a lower series and always gripes about how Nationwide regulars
won't give him any room. That's one of the many reasons why I hate him.
Brad had every right to keep his line and not back off when Denny came
right down across his nose. I got something to say to Denny: If you
DON'T like being raced hard, stay OUT of the Nationwide Series!! Of
course those guys are going to race hard, they're working their way up
the ranks trying to make their presence be known, so they can actually
get the chance to gain "some Cup experience", as you would stupidly put it!

I would think Denny out of all people would understand that considering
how he came up, but I guess fame turned him into a moron, just like his
idiot teammate. He can have DNF's in all of his races for the rest of
the season, and I wouldn't give a damn.


  6.   Anonymous posted:
  09.27.2009 - 12:03 am
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Wow Bronco, you're stupid.


  7.   Bronco posted:
  09.27.2009 - 12:08 am
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"Wow Bronco, you're stupid."

Care to elaborate? And how about using an actual user name while you're
at it?


  8.   18fan posted:
  09.27.2009 - 1:13 am
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This race was incredibly boring. Kyle dominated the first half and Clint
dominated the second half, but he deserved to win. Congratulations to
Clint Bowyer on his win.


  9.   SoxFan24 posted:
  09.27.2009 - 3:50 am
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Denny Hamilin is becomming just like his teammate Kyle Busch. God forbid
things doesn't go his way. Keselowski held his line the replay clearly
shows this. Keselowski is destined for success for his performance in
the NationCup Series. What does Shane Huffman and Mark McFarland have in
common. Two guys who couldn't get out of their own way in the 88 car
before Keselowski took over. I dont' understand the Keselowski bashing
that goes on. He hasnt' had anything given to him


  10.   Mark O. posted:
  09.27.2009 - 6:13 am
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Bronco, you are an idiot because you let your personal opinion get in
the way of facts. So you don't like the fact that NASCAR made a bad call
last year (and this is coming from a Tony fan). The stats are the stats.


  11.   Dodge posted:
  09.27.2009 - 7:50 am
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What alarms me is that yes Brad spun out Hamlin but it wasn't Brad's
fault, the idiots in the ESPN booth were blaming Brad. Even driving a
street car, if a car is coming, you don't merge. So for them to blame
Kes, I sure wouldn't want to be near them on a highway.


  12.   The Great Dave posted:
  09.27.2009 - 8:37 am
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It was pretty obvious that the 88 didn't check up when needed. Remember
Hamlin had a lapped car to his outside, Kes should have waited till turn
three.

That being said Denny's interview was hilariously stupid.


  13.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
  09.27.2009 - 9:56 am
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"Lol, you do know that the car Brad ran at Talladega was an ex-Hendrick
car, meaning it was never gonna start and park?"

Yes I know that was a Hendrick car, chassis, and motor. But that #09
team isn't used to running full races because, as you said, they
normally field pieces of junk start and park Dodges. Denny is driving in
Cup for one of the biggest and richest sponsors, and for a powerhouse
team that wins a lot. Yet he always wins less than his teammates. Hell,
this year he only has one more win than Stale Bread.

"Jeff Gordon won 69 races from 1994-2004 while his teammate Terry
Labonte won only 12. I guess he was an underachieving asshole as well."

Underachiever? Yes. Asshole? No. Terry is one of the classiest guys out
there. But he was way too conservative on the track and that prevented
him from winning a lot more races. Yes, that conservatism allowed him to
win 2 Cup titles that were choked away by more aggressive teams.
Meanwhile, during his Hendrick stay, Jeff was on kill the whole time and
made himself an undeniable legend. We just don't criticize Terry for it
because he is so damn nice.

"Wrong, Tony won 8 times. Talladega last year doesn't count."

Now this I agree with.

"You can hate Denny Hamlin all you want - just don't try and tell me's a
mediocre driver. "

He is very talented, but nobody has snatched defeat from the jaws of
victory as much as Denny lately. He isn't getting what he needs to out
of his cars. Brad, meanwhile, is overachieving on both levels.


  14.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
  09.27.2009 - 10:10 am
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"I'm really pissed at Denny as well, it's ridiculous how he comes down
into a lower series and always gripes about how Nationwide regulars
won't give him any room."

Exactly! I hate the way they just expect everyone to roll out the red
carpet for them and just be happy to be along for the ride in their
show. You idiots, you are willfully choosing to go to a lower series
with your upper series teams, you should be embarrassed for even being
there.

"I got something to say to Denny: If you DON'T like being raced hard,
stay OUT of the Nationwide Series!! Of course those guys are going to
race hard, they're working their way up the ranks trying to make their
presence be known, so they can actually get the chance to gain "some Cup
experience", as you would stupidly put it!"

Exactly. IT IS THE NATIONWIDE SERIES YOU DOLT!!! It isn't the Cup
Playground Series. Besides, he hasn't earned the right to be rolled over
for. He wins 1/3 as much as his teammate.

"I would think Denny out of all people would understand that considering
how he came up, but I guess fame turned him into a moron, just like his
idiot teammate. He can have DNF's in all of his races for the rest of
the season, and I wouldn't give a damn."

I know, right? He came up the hard way, and was given the opportunity of
a lifetime. You would think he'd be more appreciative and understanding.
But he let it all go straight to his head. Loser.

"Denny Hamilin is becomming just like his teammate Kyle Busch. God
forbid things doesn't go his way."

Yep and it's disturbing as hell. It's like their entitled to everything
and don't have to earn it. That is why neither is living up to their
awesome potential. Kyle is out of the cha$e and Denny's win total is at
least 10 below what it should be.

"What alarms me is that yes Brad spun out Hamlin but it wasn't Brad's
fault, the idiots in the ESPN booth were blaming Brad. Even driving a
street car, if a car is coming, you don't merge."

Exactly. ESPN bugs the living shit out of me. They treat it like a Cup
Warmup event too. It is ridiculous. They can all eat shit too.


  15.   Anonymous posted:
  09.27.2009 - 11:00 am
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DaleSrFanForever,

You forgot to mention that Terry was helped in 1996 that Dale Earnhardt
Sr. got hurt at Talladega with him hurting his collarbone, broke his
sternum, and bruised his pelvis. Dale's season went south after that.
Dale was leading Terry going into Talladega.

When was Harry Gant consider an aggressive driver? He is the driver that
Terry Labonte won his first championship to in 1984.

Harry Gant wasn't considered an aggressive driver by what I read.

The only aggressive drivers that finished top 5 in points in that year
was Dale Sr. and Darrell Waltrip. Rcr couldn't be considered a team that
choked in that considered their history at the time. Waltrip had 7 wins,
but finished fifth in points.


  16.   WallceFan posted:
  09.27.2009 - 12:45 pm
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Boring race until the end. Good one for Steve who was in 8th, tried to
pass Scott Speed, when Reutimann made it 3 wide, Steve got loose and hit
the wall but salvaged a 12th. Impressive runs for Michael Annett and for
John Wes Townley who didnt hit anything all week. Great one for Morgan.

I don't know how it can be argued, Denny Hamlin was wrecked. The ESPN
guys, who are usually all over KEselowski, actually blamed him. It was
clear as day. Keselowski is quickly becoming one of the most arrogant
drivers in Nascar, and hes not even in Cup yet. One of these days hes
gonna mess with the wrong guy.
Hamlin is more or less all talk, im pretty sure he said last year that
he was going to throw some concrete blocks at Keselowski next time? Well
he dint, but maybe he would have if Keselowskis goons hadn't pulled
Hamlin away from there scared driver. Let the drivers settle it themselves.


  17.   WallceFan posted:
  09.27.2009 - 12:50 pm
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Btw, look at all the start and parks...unbelievable.


  18.   Roushketeer posted:
  09.27.2009 - 12:58 pm
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5. RCRandPenskeGuy posted:
09.26.09 - 11:45 pm
I was pulling for Mike Bliss to win this race just to send a little bit
of smite over to the #1 team, but his run today should help him in his
search for employment.

I was hoping Bliss would win also.


  19.   Bronco posted:
  09.27.2009 - 1:20 pm
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"Bronco, you are an idiot because you let your personal opinion get in
the way of facts. So you don't like the fact that NASCAR made a bad call
last year (and this is coming from a Tony fan). The stats are the stats."

Not to open up a can of worms, but the FACTS stated that "If you can see
the checkered flag, then anything goes". Dale Jr and Shrub were also
given passes for going below the line when they won at Talladega in 2003
and 2008. You're a Tony fan so you're obviously going to support a win
that he didn't deserve, but as for me and several others on this site,
we believe in justice and consistent rulings. If that makes me an idiot,
then so be it.

"But that #09 team isn't used to running full races because, as you
said, they normally field pieces of junk start and park Dodges."

At restrictor plate races the #09 team has always gone the full
distance, finishing 3rd with Geoff Bodine in the 2002 Daytona 500 and
4th with Mike Wallace in the 2007 Daytona 500.

"We just don't criticize Terry for it because he is so damn nice."

Then it's kinda funny how Dale Jr takes a lot of heat for his lack of
performance in the #88, because he's a pretty nice guy as well. But
that's a different issue I guess.

As for the notion that Denny's underachieving in Cup, that's total
horseshit. He's made the all important cha$e every year he's been in Cup
and has contended for several wins. If he had better luck he would have
won the spring Bristol race in 2007 and 2008, the Darlington race from
2007, and the spring Richmond race in 2008 and 2009. That's not still up
to par with what Shrub, but that doesn't make him an underachieve either.

Like I said, you can't base everything on wins. Dale Jr and Jeff Gordon
both have the same number of wins during their time as teammates. Does
that mean they're equal drivers? Heck no.


  20.   Kit posted:
  09.27.2009 - 1:41 pm
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Denny Hamlin is maybe only one step above white trash, and that's all
I'm going to say about him.

Brad is going to do well in the #12 car.


  21.   Neal posted:
  09.27.2009 - 3:47 pm
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I thought the ESPN boys were a little harsh on Keselowski. Yes, Brad
drove it in deeply and got a run on Denny but he HELD HIS LINE. He
didn't wash up the track into Hamlin, Hamlin came down into him when he
was trying to diamond the corner.

Both drivers made mistakes and Hamlin's post-crash interview was
completely juvenile and contradictory (which is S.O.P. for Denny). At
the beginning of the interview he more or less said Keselowski sucks and
would be lucky to last 2 years in Sprint Cup, and he finished up by
saying Keselowski has talent and he's going to win races. Do I sense a
career in politics in Denny's future? He's already mastered talking out
of both sides of his mouth.


  22.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
  09.27.2009 - 8:31 pm
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"As for the notion that Denny's underachieving in Cup, that's total
horseshit."

His numbers say otherwise.

"Brad is going to do well in the #12 car."

I think so too. He probably won't contend with the powerhouses, but
he'll gain valuable experience and probably win a few races. Penske
seems to be getting it together, it is just that they have 2 drivers
that can't keep the car pointing straight or out of the wall. Today in
the Cup race at Dover was a prime example. Brad won't do that. I think
his performance will comparable to Kurt's.


  23.   Bronco posted:
  09.27.2009 - 9:09 pm
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"His numbers say otherwise."

Yeah, you're one to talk about numbers right? Especially after your
botched attempt a few weeks ago to use "statistics" to try and say that
Elliott Sadler is a better driver than JPM.

"I think so too. He probably won't contend with the powerhouses, but
he'll gain valuable experience and probably win a few races."

Win a few races....are you kidding me? If Kurt Busch, one of NASCAR's
most talented drivers only has 5 wins (1 which was a complete fluke) in
4 years driving the flagship car of that organization, what the heck
make you think Brad will win a few races in his first year? Brad will do
better than Stremme for sure, but pretty much anyone could do better
than him. Remember 2010 is an even year and Kurt has struggled in even
years, so if that's any indication you shouldn't get your hopes up about
Brad.


  24.   RCRandPenskeGuy posted:
  09.27.2009 - 9:30 pm
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I feel like a total fool. I thought Stremme would do better than Sam
coming into the season, but even Sam is blowing David out of the water!
Either way, both of them are pointless backmarkers that don't belong in
Cup. At least Roger got smart and fired Stremme for Brad, now Penske
will have a chance to run up front with more than one team.


  25.   RCRandPenskeGuy posted:
  09.27.2009 - 9:58 pm
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After looking at Sam's stats this season (2 top-5's and 7 top-10's while
Stremme doesn't have a single top-10), maybe I should revert my previous
comment: Sam is just above being a backmarker. Stremme however,
definitely fits into that mold.


  26.   Neal posted:
  09.27.2009 - 10:43 pm
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Sam's also gotten better as the season has progressed. He has shown he
is able to learn behind the wheel - unlike David Stremme.

After 2 tours of duty in Cup, Stremme has yet to figure out that in
order to finish a race (let alone snag a win) you have to keep the car
out of the wall.


  27.   WallaceFan posted:
  09.28.2009 - 12:06 am
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At the conclusion of Saturday's Dover 200, #20-Denny Hamlin approached
#88-Brad Keselowski to talk about their on track incident late in the race:
DENNY: You say I cut you off?
BRAD: you always do.
DENNY: Let me tell you something...let me tell you one thing...you'll
never [freaking] make it the way you [freaking] drive, alright?
BRAD: Go ahead; tell me one thing...'cause I'll tell you three in your
face!"
(Tony Eury Jr steps in as Keselowski walks off)
DENNY: He forgets...he forgets...
TONY: That's fine.
DENNY: he's got a short [freaking] memory.
TONY: You gotta a bigger [freaking] deal tomorrow so go [freaking]
concentrate on that, alright?
DENNY: I agree, I agree.
TONY: Call him next week.
DENNY: But don't [freaking] make his bad day my bad day.
TONY: He was comin' through he was fine he was comin' through, okay?
Talk about it next week. That's all I'm sayin'.
DENNY: I'm doin' you a favor.
TONY: I appreciate it. Thanks


  28.   WallaceFan posted:
  09.28.2009 - 12:06 am
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ill tell you three in the face? what?


  29.   Kit posted:
  09.28.2009 - 3:06 am
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"what the heck make you think Brad will win a few races in his first year?"

Maybe he has as much driving ability as Kurt Busch...?


  30.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
  09.28.2009 - 2:12 pm
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"Especially after your botched attempt a few weeks ago to use
"statistics" to try and say that Elliott Sadler is a better driver than
JPM."

He is a more accomplished stock car driver than JPM.

"If Kurt Busch, one of NASCAR's most talented drivers only has 5 wins (1
which was a complete fluke) in 4 years driving the flagship car of that
organization, what the heck make you think Brad will win a few races in
his first year?"

Yes Kurt is talented, but much like his brother, he is also his won
worst enemy. I think he could win more races with Panske if he wouldn't
freak out everytime an adjustment doesn't work. Like the blowup with The
Captain himself at Martinsville or his constant whining during the Dover
race. If he would just focus on getting all he can get out of it, he
would win more. He is not good at grinding out wins. The majority of his
wins were total dominations. We forget just how immature he truly is
because his brother makes him look like Bobby Labonte.

Brad, on the other had, has had to grind out every NASCAR victory he has
ever earned. His car is always outclassed in the Nationwide Series by
the Gibbs Toyotas and Carl's car. Yet he can still win and just plain
beat them. Besides, he has run a lot of Cup races already at most of the
tracks, so he won't be a total rookie. He knows the tracks really well
with his combined Nationwide and Cup starts, and has valuable COT
experience. Sears Point and Pocono are the only tracks he will have to
learn.


  31.   Talon64 posted:
  09.28.2009 - 5:00 pm
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Jason Keller got his 7th top ten of the year; despite being invisible
this year he's 7th in points.

Scott Speed got his 6th top ten in 10 races this year; he's run well in
ARCA, Trucks and Nationwide yet the Crap of Today has given him tons of
problems.

JWT wasn't absolutely terrible! So congrats to him on not completely
sucking!

Keselowski has had 6 straight top fives and 10 straight top tens, both
career highs and both the longest active streaks.

I swear, Mike Bliss has run in the top five with nearly every team he's
driven for in Trucks and Nationwide over the last 3 years. He was fired
from the 1 Finch car because he "didn't win enough" finished 2nd and
with a far greater shot at the win than a 3 time winner at Dover among
Nationwide and Cup who drove Finch's car. Justice does exist.

Michael Annett was the rookie of the race in 13th.

Jimmie Johnson's brother, Jarit, ran his 2nd career Nationwide race
S&P'ing for the 07 team; he finished 33rd.


  32.   18fan posted:
  09.28.2009 - 6:35 pm
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Bronco,
The difference is that Terry contended for wins and won while Jr. doesn't.

DSFF,
We also don't criticize Terry for being nice because he was a talented
driver who was able to take advantage of other team's mistakes. Not
everybody can do that.


  33.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
  09.28.2009 - 6:41 pm
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http://www.frontstretch.com/bkeith/27472/

Here is an excellent article outlining how asanine and hypocritical
Denny's rant was and how he has no room to talk because of his troubled
past.

"DSFF,
We also don't criticize Terry for being nice because he was a talented
driver who was able to take advantage of other team's mistakes. Not
everybody can do that."

I agree with that.


  34.   18fan posted:
  09.28.2009 - 7:29 pm
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Denny is also the only driver who time and time again rants about
getting raced by Nationwide regulars in Nationwide races. I remember
Kyle going off on Steven Wallace for racing hard for third place on the
last lap at Richmond, but I can't remember any other time a Cup driver
did that other than Denny. If someone remembers another one, just let me
know.


  35.   Bronco posted:
  09.28.2009 - 8:02 pm
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"We forget just how immature he truly is because his brother makes him
look like Bobby Labonte."

Uh, there's a reason why Kurt gets pissed on the radio, it's because
Penske cars suck! Sure, Kurt may have been able to turn some of his top
10s into top 5s if he wouldn't get so agitated, but the fact is he won a
lot more and had better points finishes when he drove the #97 and was
just as temperamental then. And look at Newman's performance right now
in the #39 compared to last year in the #12. Even a Daytona 500 win
couldn't inject anything into his season last season which is why he
left. So I have good reason for doubting the prediction of Brad winning
any race in the #12 next year, barring something unexpected. He'll
finish 17th-22nd in points with a few top 10s, laps led and maybe a
pole, but I don't see him winning.

"Brad, on the other had, has had to grind out every NASCAR victory he
has ever earned."

I think you're overstating the facts. Yes, the #88 is a step behind the
#18, 20 and the #60 but it's still a much better ride than almost
anything else out there. I personally think Jason Leffler's performance
this season is more impressive, although he hasn't won yet.
"The difference is that Terry contended for wins and won while Jr. doesn't."

In the late 90s, maybe. Look up Terry's stats from 2000-2004 and get
back to me about him contending for wins. In 2001 he didn't lead a
single lap! Even Jerry Nadeau almost won a race that year. And in 2002
Joe Nemechek came closer to winning than Terry did.


  36.   18fan posted:
  09.28.2009 - 8:09 pm
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I think taking Gary DeHart away from Terry is what hurt him and in 2000
he also had an injury.


  37.   Kit posted:
  09.29.2009 - 2:01 am
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"Sure, Kurt may have been able to turn some of his top 10s into top 5s
if he wouldn't get so agitated, but the fact is he won a lot more and
had better points finishes when he drove the #97 and was just as
temperamental then."

If that dumbass didn't piss off Jack Roush, he would still be in the
#97. Kurt Busch has nobody to blame but himself.

"And look at Newman's performance right now in the #39 compared to last
year in the #12. Even a Daytona 500 win couldn't inject anything into
his season last season which is why he left."

Ryan Newman's an underachiever. He really hasn't done shit since 2003
when his team fielded the fastest car on the track. His performance in
the #39 has been another underachievement. He's in the Chase, but hasn't
really been a factor this year compared to Stewart. Yeah, the #12 sucked
last year, but Newman could have grinded a little more.

"I personally think Jason Leffler's performance this season is more
impressive, although he hasn't won yet."

Leffler has far more experience than Brad.

"Look up Terry's stats from 2000-2004 and get back to me about him
contending for wins."

You can say the same about Jr. right now.


  38.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
  09.29.2009 - 8:39 am
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"Ryan Newman's an underachiever. He really hasn't done shit since 2003
when his team fielded the fastest car on the track. His performance in
the #39 has been another underachievement. He's in the Chase, but hasn't
really been a factor this year compared to Stewart. Yeah, the #12 sucked
last year, but Newman could have grinded a little more."

I agree. I think Stewart hired him mainly because they are friends and
it gives Tony a little bit of a comfort zone while he's adjusting to his
ownership role. Probably not a bad move. Plus Ryan is talented, but like
you said, he isn't a grinder either. If the car is off, forget it. I
think Penske is a lot better than people realize.

"but the fact is he won a lot more and had better points finishes when
he drove the #97 and was just as temperamental then."

The key there is that he had Jimmy Fennig whom he respected and deferred
to. He was like what Tony Eury Sr was to Dale Jr. He was the voice of
authority which kept Kurt in line just enough to get decent finishes out
of bad days for the most part. At Penske, he respects nobody, even The
Captain himself, perhaps the most accomplished racing owner ever.


  39.   RCRandPenskeGuy posted:
  09.29.2009 - 1:40 pm
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"I think taking Gary DeHart away from Terry is what hurt him and in 2000
he also had an injury."

I don't know about that, Terry had Gary DeHart as his crew chief for the
whole 2001 season, and he never even led a lap. It wasn't until Jim Long
came aboard that his performance improved and he actually started
leading some laps.


  40.   18fan posted:
  09.29.2009 - 6:51 pm
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I read on Jayski that a lot of the crew members from the 47 team have
gone to MSRP and that MSRP is fielding the 47 now. This is a team that
had already began start and parking and then at Montreal, they magically
have sponsorship for Ambrose. I hate start and parks. All they do is
take spots and really shouldn't even be in racing.


  41.   Talon64 posted:
  09.29.2009 - 7:26 pm
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MSRP has had 21 different drivers over the last two seasons, and Dave
Blaney has the honours of being the only driver to actually finish a
race; 13th at Watkins Glen this year. It's absolutely pathetic.


  42.   Daniel posted:
  05.21.2012 - 2:10 pm
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In using fastest 43: #0 J.C. Stout

Out using fastest 43: #15 Michael Annett


  43.   CBASS posted:
  02.02.2013 - 7:31 am
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  44.   SK posted:
  12.09.2016 - 2:22 pm
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To date, the last Xfinity Series start made by Bobby Hamilton, Jr.


  45.   Maverick19 posted:
  05.11.2017 - 10:34 pm
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Last win for Holiday Inn in NASCAR, I miss that car.


  46.   FrianBrance posted:
  06.01.2019 - 7:39 am
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?He'll get a ride, hang around a few years and people will realize he's
not that good.? Denny Hamlin on Brad Keselowski.
10 years later Brad has a championship and is close to passing Denny in
cup wins.


  47.   PCRF0006 posted:
  12.23.2019 - 7:32 am
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Manufacturer Correction

#52 was a Chevrolet

Source: LAT Images


  48.   BrettMoffittFan0223 posted:
  11.07.2020 - 12:07 pm
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Kind of funny how Denny said Brad will only be in cup for a few years,
in 2012 Brad won the championship, to this day Denny Hamlin doesn't have
a cup championship and Brad is still racing today.


  49.   Foote posted:
  11.07.2020 - 12:46 pm
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Denny was insufferable from 2008-2018 but has really turned it around
from a maturity perspective.


  50.   Anon posted:
  11.07.2020 - 1:12 pm
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Corey LaJoie and Joey Logano would disagree, but they (especially
Lajoie) are far from mature individuals.


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