|| *Comments on the 2009 Able Body Labor 200:* View the most recent comment <#108> | Post a comment <#post> 1. Smokefan05 posted: 11.14.2009 - 10:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Good run for Mike Bliss. Keep it up Mike, your making James Finch look like an moron. And Kyle Busch avoids the media and whined about Matt K. and Mike racing him too hard. I'll leave the Brad vs Diva Hamlin thing too other posters on this site. :) 2. CFob posted: 11.14.2009 - 10:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Alex Tagliani makes his oval track debut, appears to have broken a rear end though. 3. Rob posted: 11.14.2009 - 11:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) webmaster, kevin conway was in a chevy not a ford. 4. Bronco posted: 11.14.2009 - 11:37 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Congrats to Carl on his 2nd straight Phoenix win. And you have to give him credit for that on the ground flip he did :) Nice to see him deny Shrub the chance to clinch the championship a race early. Only the the third time this year Shrub has not led a race, the other times were Vegas and Montreal. Bulldozer Brad/Bumper Brad/Brainless Brad/Bonehead Brad/Brad Wreckalotski (take your pick) once again shows what a careless jackass he is by spinning out Hamlin. I'm fully aware that Hamlin tapped him first, but BB not only tapped Hamlin again, he drove deep in the corner just to wreck Hamlin. I'm glad that Shrub, his crew chief, Hamlin and Jarrett all called out BB on the crap that he's pulling each week. It's about time one of them stuffs him into the wall if NASCAR isn't going to do anything about it. Great run for Steve Wallace after he lost a tire. Bliss has top 10s in all his starts with the 11 team and now is in the top 5 in points despite doing a few S&Ps after losing his ride. John Wrecks Townley stayed out the wall this time around at Phoenix. If any of you remember, last year he crashed his primary car in practice, then wrecked all by himself in the backup car in the race. He also wrecked in the truck race last year, and wrecked again in the Nationwide race here in April. 5. RaceFanX posted: 11.14.2009 - 11:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Alex Tagliani had a pretty wild wreck in practice before this race Kyle Busch basically locks up the 2009 Nationwide title, all he has to do is start next week at Homestead to claim his first NASCAR title in any series. 6. calegale posted: 11.15.2009 - 12:05 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Another solid run for James Buescher, he did a good job staying in the top 15 most of the race and finishing there. I honestly wasn't expecting much from him based off of his struggles in the #10 truck, but he has done a good job finishing races for someone who only had 6 starts in the Nationwide series when he took over the #1 last week. 7. Baker posted: 11.15.2009 - 12:47 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) Brad Keselowski is the biggest pieace of garbage in the sport right now period. 8. WallaceFan posted: 11.15.2009 - 1:15 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) As I have been saying for probably 2 years, Brad Keselowski is a complete waste on the track. He wrecks people consistently and cant manage to take the blame. EVER since he won the Cup race he has gotten fuller and fuller of himself and its starting to reach a breaking point. Does Hamlin whine sometimes, SURE, does he have a reason this time? DEFINATLEY. Denny bumped him and passed him, Brad bumped him, and then straight up wrecked him. Brads explination? I hit him just like he hit me, the only difference was I could save it. This guy is not what Nascar needs. He is not Dale Earnhardt, he isnt even Kyle Busch. He is a whiney little brat who is full of himself. He has a minimum amount of friends if ANY on the circuit. He wrecked his own future teammate in CUp and Kurt was none too pleased. Nascar needs to step in and do something about this, BUT THEY DIDNT, and now Denny is going to take care of it himself. He said "theres alot of drivers that have chips about this guy, Im just going to be at the pay window" Hes going to wreck him at Homestead and the whole garage will cheer. 9. WallaceFan posted: 11.15.2009 - 1:17 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Great race though. Good run for Carl. Kyle misses clinching the championship by 1 point and looked as if he finished last. Your gonna win it next week Kyle chill out. Great run for Steve, lost a wheel early while in the top 10, fell to 21st a lap down. Fought back to a 10th place finish. Great runs for Sorenson, Kyle (who spun early and had damage), Bliss, Keller, Buescher, Bayne , and Kenny Wallace who is quietly 41 pts behind Michael Annett for 10th in points! 10. Bronco posted: 11.15.2009 - 2:13 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well said WallaceFan. Hamlin's comments about BB needing guidance at Dover a few months ago were right on the money and this race proves it. And I also fully understand the reasons behind NASCAR's warning to him at Kansas. It pisses me off that NASCAR black flagged Crafton at Gateway for "aggressive driving" and took away a win, and yet they turn a blind eye to BB's actions. 11. alex tagliani's tire warmer posted: 11.15.2009 - 2:18 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) pretty sure that was a cleverly disguised start and park for alex there cfob 12. SoxFan24 posted: 11.15.2009 - 2:45 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) How do you represent your Series as soon to be champion? Running and hiding in your trailer. Nice job Kyle 13. Timmy Quivy posted: 11.15.2009 - 3:44 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kevin Hamlin was a post-entry; hence the no points. Tag crashed in Qualifying, not practice. Debut for 2009 Camping World West champ Jason Bowles. Shame he couldn't make the banquet this night; it seemed odd for a champ not to be there. 14. webmaster posted: 11.15.2009 - 8:51 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Rob: The entry list showed Conway in a Chevy, but NASCAR has him in a Ford for both qualifying and the race; I've changed him back to a Chevy in the results. 15. Dodge posted: 11.15.2009 - 8:53 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) A lot of idiots on this page. Keselowski IS A FULLTIME NATIONWIDE DRIVER. How many Nationwide races has Denny run? A few. He has NO BUSINESS GOING AFTER ANYFULLTIME DRIVER WHEN HE IS A PART-TIMER. Considering that Denny said that NASCAR don't need to do anything about it, he'll settle it: He went to Mike Helton and Helton went to Dale Jr., Brad's car owner. If I was NASCAR, I would be suspending Hamlin for a while for "Comments detrimental to Stock Car Racing",fining him at least 5 million dollars just to show him he don't call the shots.Just my opinion. Those that hope Denny puts Brad in the wall are either 2 things...1 a very bad person who probably have been/will be in jail sometime soon...2 needs to be put in a psyc ward to make sure their not mentally ill. Although, by Bronco's posts and WallaceFan's posts, number 2 is probably the one. Also, WallaceFan, funny how YOU badmouth Brad for SPINNING people but when your boy WRECKs someone, oh well. By the way, HOW MANY RACES HAS STEVE WON COMPARED TO BRAD??? jUST WONDERING. 16. Cooper posted: 11.15.2009 - 10:01 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) You guys are hilarious, its about time someone gives these baby, rich drivers a lesson. You want to know why the ratings are in the whole? The drivers. You never have any rivalries, or hard racing. for the last couple of years, its been I'll give you a position, as long as you don't bump me. Don't you find it hilarious that a 26 year old minor leaguer, is rattling the cages of the "professionals". And Kyle Busch finally realizes whats its like not to have 12000 HP under the hood. I never wanted to compare brad to dale, i thought there was no comparison at all until now. Dale made it clear, you bump me, i wreck you, so there's no sense in messing with him. Denny you can go and try to wreck him, only if you don't get wrecked first. I have never been this excited in years! Brad changing nascar one race at a time! Brad is a legend. OH and by the way owners and sponsors don't want somebody who will take a sunday drive, they want guys that get tv time= BRAD =TV TIME 17. bduddy posted: 11.15.2009 - 10:13 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I wouldn't be so sure about Tagliani-the 81 is a revolving door like no other, but it hasn't parked once all season. I'd give them the benefit of the doubt, this time... I mean, I guess rear ends actually do break, once in a while... 18. DaleSrFanForever posted: 11.15.2009 - 10:46 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) Damn! I missed this one cause I was watching the Tar Heels beat Thug U (which was awesome). I missed Brad Keselowski totally owning Diva Hamlin again. Damn. Damn. Damn. Damn. Damn. I only got to see the highlights on NASCAR.com. I got to see Kyle Busch whine about it (cause he's never made contact with anyone ever), I got to see Ratcliff whine about it. The same Ratcliff who blatently tried to cheat a NASCAR chassis dynometer test. I guess when you have 7 months to sit on your ass you have a lot of time to come up with insults. "He is gonna get hurt." Don't worry Ratcliff, when they send an ambulance for Brad, we'll also send a WHAHmbulance for you. I also got to see Denny try to act like a tough guy after totally being Brad K's bitch again. Oh Denny, you are SO tough and stoic. You have a full time Cup ride with the second best team in Sprint Cup with a high paying sponsor but you are going after a Nationwide regular. That is something to really be proud of. I guess if it takes his mind off the fact that JJ is 10 times the driver he is, it is good for Denny. And nice job announcing your intentions publically. That was really smart. You won't be scrutinized at all next week. It's official: Brad K is my new driver. I still like Truex and Kahne and Reut, but Brad is at the top of my list now. I will definitely be buying some #12 stuff next year. His interview was awesome. I love the way he just brushed Denny aside like it was no big deal. It reminded me of an Earnhardt interview so much. I know I recently made a big stink about comparing drivers to Dale Sr so this is hypocritical of me, but right now it is like 1986 all over again and Brad is Dale. Are they comparable as drivers? Nobody except Pearson is. I'm just glad he is putting these whiney prima donnas in their place. And his attitude about it is perfect. Go get 'em Brad! And don't ever change. 19. DaleSrFanForever posted: 11.15.2009 - 10:55 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Also, WallaceFan, funny how YOU badmouth Brad for SPINNING people but when your boy WRECKs someone, oh well. By the way, HOW MANY RACES HAS STEVE WON COMPARED TO BRAD??? jUST WONDERING." Amen. "its about time someone gives these baby, rich drivers a lesson. You want to know why the ratings are in the whole? The drivers. You never have any rivalries, or hard racing. for the last couple of years, its been I'll give you a position, as long as you don't bump me. Don't you find it hilarious that a 26 year old minor leaguer, is rattling the cages of the "professionals"." That is an excellent way to put it. They are all pampered and get pissed when someone does so much as crowd them. It is like a country club full of rich whiners. It has turned into golf. That is one of the many reasons fans are being turned off to this crap. It's nice to see someone walk into their country club party and piss in the punchbowl. "I never wanted to compare brad to dale, i thought there was no comparison at all until now. Dale made it clear, you bump me, i wreck you, so there's no sense in messing with him. Denny you can go and try to wreck him, only if you don't get wrecked first. I have never been this excited in years! Brad changing nascar one race at a time!" Totally agree. And Brad is very smart about it. He doesn't cause a huge ruckus like Harvick always did. He stayed cool and just did his business on the track. And you are right, for the first time in years I am actually excited about the upcoming season just to watch Brad. I know his equipment is a little weak, but so is JR Motorsports in NWide. How many top Cup drivers have been in that sister #5 car and couldn't compete? Like you said, I am actually giddy about something in NASCAR for the first time in ages. "BRAD =TV TIME" And TV viewers. 20. Mike posted: 11.15.2009 - 1:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Like I said, Keselowski is the Dale Earnhardt of this generation. His driving style and attitude resembles Dale in so many ways its unreal. I'm beginning to wonder if Dale Jr has taught him some of these characteristics. Mike Bliss continues to impress me. If he hangs on to finish 5th in the points after all of the teams he's driven for this season it would be a hell of a feat to accomplish. 21. rw posted: 11.15.2009 - 1:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "It's official: Brad K is my new driver. I still like Truex and Kahne and Reut, but Brad is at the top of my list now. I will definitely be buying some #12 stuff next year. His interview was awesome. I love the way he just brushed Denny aside like it was no big deal. It reminded me of an Earnhardt interview so much. I know I recently made a big stink about comparing drivers to Dale Sr so this is hypocritical of me, but right now it is like 1986 all over again and Brad is Dale. Are they comparable as drivers? Nobody except Pearson is. I'm just glad he is putting these whiney prima donnas in their place. And his attitude about it is perfect." Amen! 22. CFob posted: 11.15.2009 - 2:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Bulldozer Brad/Bumper Brad/Brainless Brad/Bonehead Brad/Brad Wreckalotski (take your pick) once again shows what a careless jackass he is by spinning out Hamlin. I'm fully aware that Hamlin tapped him first, but BB not only tapped Hamlin again, he drove deep in the corner just to wreck Hamlin. I'm glad that Shrub, his crew chief, Hamlin and Jarrett all called out BB on the crap that he's pulling each week. It's about time one of them stuffs him into the wall if NASCAR isn't going to do anything about it." For the first full-season and then some Brad was pretty much the target of a ton of Cup regulars. As soon as he stops taking the crap and starts giving it back, people claim he is a bonehead. If I were treated like he was on the track, I'd race the same way. You can all be the designated ping pong ball of the Nationwide series before you get sick of it. Plus, Denny Hamlin deserves to get put in his place on at least a semi-regular basis. You say Brad is full of himself? I gotta believe the Diva thinks his Bowel Movements are cherry scented. WallaceFan pointing out Brad spinning someone = LOL. Pot, meet kettle. Also, to the person who mentioned Brad getting forced into Kurt Busch at Talladega, open your eyes, Brian Vickers was there helping Brad forward into Kurt. Oops? 23. Smokefan05 posted: 11.15.2009 - 2:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) As i said on his driver page Brad K. doesn't wussy foot around a racetrack. It kinda reminds me of what Jeff Gordon said once "I WANT TOO WIN. AND I DON'T CARE HOW MANY PEOPLE I HAVE TOO GET OUTTA MY WAY TOO DO IT." And i also said Brad K. has been winning in worse equipment than Baby Busch and Diva Hamlin in the Nationwide series. If i was Brad i wouldn't be worried about Diva Hamlin. His bark is worse than his bite. 24. New 14&88 Fan posted: 11.15.2009 - 3:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kryle Busch and Diva Hamlin...two examples of "drivers" who can dish it out but can't take. Jason Ratcliff calling out some one when he was sat out seven whole months by NA$CAR for blatantly trying to cheat on a chassis dynometer test..lol pot meet kettle. "As I have been saying for probably 2 years, Brad Keselowski is a complete waste on the track. He wrecks people consistently and cant manage to take the blame. EVER since he won the Cup race he has gotten fuller and fuller of himself and its starting to reach a breaking point. Does Hamlin whine sometimes, SURE, does he have a reason this time? DEFINATLEY." No offense WallaceFan,but I'd need all my fingers and toes plus TWENTY MORE to count all the wrecks The Son of Rusty as caused since '06,and like Dodge asked how many races has The Offspring Of The Nine Time Bristol Winner won compared to Brad??? Besides,what are Busch,Hamlin and all these other "high and mighty" buschwackers doing in the Nationwide Series anyway...it's supposed to provide up and coming drivers and laps and experience(like Hamlin loves to bitch about to Brad)for when they decide to move up to the Cup series,not for these filthy stinking rich prima donnas to take all the points and money and demand that the "lowly" Nationwide only drivers roll over and play dead for them...and even though I missed the race I was glad to see Edwards win and Kenseth(even if they are cup guys) denied Kryle his oh so "precious" championship a race early,of course Shrub whined about that too like he's some sort of angel of the Lord who's NEVER RACED ANYONE HARD OR WRECKED ANYBODY EVAR!!!!!! 25. freudian slip says posted: 11.15.2009 - 4:16 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) jamie little said "moneyshot" instead of "moneystop" on the last pit sequence. she loves her some porn!!! LOL 26. CFob posted: 11.15.2009 - 4:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Also, why isn't NASCAR doing anything about Hamlin threatening to take out Brad in the next race at Homestead? They've done stuff to drivers hinting at hitting someone while in the car. If I were Brian France or Mike Helton, Denny wouldn't be racing next weekend in the Nationwide car. 27. Smokefan05 posted: 11.15.2009 - 5:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 14&88 you should try and become a preacher. :) 28. 18fan posted: 11.15.2009 - 6:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Brad Keselowski isn't as great as everyone thinks he is. In the two races he has run in the 12 car, he hasn't done much better than Hornish. Also, he is more wreckless than Earnhardt. Earnhardt didn't needlessly move people constantly, and when he did he didn't spin them most of the time. 29. CFob posted: 11.15.2009 - 6:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Brad Keselowski isn't as great as everyone thinks he is. In the two races he has run in the 12 car, he hasn't done much better than Hornish." And in both he's been caught up in other peoples wrecks. Kinda like blaming someone for getting hit by a drunk driver... Wasn't his fault he was just in the wrong place. 30. 18fan posted: 11.15.2009 - 6:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) CFob, I don't doubt that he will be great. People just think he's really great right now. It'll be a few years, but he'll get there. 31. 18fan posted: 11.15.2009 - 6:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Also, the whole weekend of racing sucked. 3 lead changes in this race, a god awful Cup race, and a below average Truck race. 32. Bronco posted: 11.15.2009 - 7:11 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "The same Ratcliff who blatently tried to cheat a NASCAR chassis dynometer test." What does Ratcliff's cheating have to do with the moronic way Bucktooth Brad drives? "Like I said, Keselowski is the Dale Earnhardt of this generation. His driving style and attitude resembles Dale in so many ways its unreal." Please don't insult the memory of Dale Earnhardt by comparing him to a worthless punk like BB. "And in both he's been caught up in other peoples wrecks." He deserves to get caught up in other wrecks after all the stunts he's pulled. Maybe now he knows how Carl and some others felt at Memphis a few weeks ago. 33. DaleSrFanForever posted: 11.15.2009 - 7:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Also, to the person who mentioned Brad getting forced into Kurt Busch at Talladega, open your eyes, Brian Vickers was there helping Brad forward into Kurt." Exactly. The video is pretty clear. "If i was Brad i wouldn't be worried about Diva Hamlin. His bark is worse than his bite." Remember his interview at Charlotte in 2008. Something like "if you throw a brick at me, I'm cgonna throw a cinder block back". That was a year and a half ago. Still waiting for that cinder block, Diva. Besides, Denny doesn't even pump his own gas. He'll probably just have to pay somebody who actually has a set of balls to take Brad out. "No offense WallaceFan,but I'd need all my fingers and toes plus TWENTY MORE to count all the wrecks The Son of Rusty as caused since '06,and like Dodge asked how many races has The Offspring Of The Nine Time Bristol Winner won compared to Brad???" Ain't that the truth!!! At least Brad is winning a lot too. He isn't just wrecking like The Boy Sired By The 1989 Winston Cup Champion. "Besides,what are Busch,Hamlin and all these other "high and mighty" buschwackers doing in the Nationwide Series anyway...it's supposed to provide up and coming drivers and laps and experience(like Hamlin loves to bitch about to Brad)for when they decide to move up to the Cup series,not for these filthy stinking rich prima donnas to take all the points and money and demand that the "lowly" Nationwide only drivers roll over and play dead for them...and even though I missed the race I was glad to see Edwards win and Kenseth(even if they are cup guys) denied Kryle his oh so "precious" championship a race early,of course Shrub whined about that too like he's some sort of angel of the Lord who's NEVER RACED ANYONE HARD OR WRECKED ANYBODY EVAR!!!!!!" I agree with every single thing said there. 34. RCRandPenskeGuy posted: 11.15.2009 - 7:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "For the first full-season and then some Brad was pretty much the target of a ton of Cup regulars. As soon as he stops taking the crap and starts giving it back, people claim he is a bonehead. If I were treated like he was on the track, I'd race the same way." Exactly. If I were making my way through the ranks and all the Cup guys were talking down to me, criticizing my (winning) style, and not to mention bump me out of the way for no reason (like Denny did in this race, if he hadn't done that we wouldn't be talking about this), I know for sure that I wouldn't be taking it. "Plus, Denny Hamlin deserves to get put in his place on at least a semi-regular basis. You say Brad is full of himself? I gotta believe the Diva thinks his Bowel Movements are cherry scented." Yeah, Denny came up with a humble attitude, but since 2007, he's made me sick. He started winning a few Cup races and now has an ego that can be compared to the size of a boulder. I've never seen Brad publically trash his pit crew and team the way Denny has. Oh, and what's Denny doing racing in a lower series in the first place? I thought he's supposed to be an established Cup driver. 35. Matt posted: 11.15.2009 - 7:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I love seeing Brad own Hamlin on a weekly basis. Denny is one of the most blatant wreckers in Cup (Pocono, anyone?) and it's great to see Brad dishing it back. 36. Mike posted: 11.15.2009 - 9:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Please don't insult the memory of Dale Earnhardt by comparing him to a worthless punk like BB." Keselowski has to prove he's as good as Earnhardt, but he's already proven he has Dale Earnhardt type of characteristics. If you were a true Dale Earnhardt fan and want another one like him in NASCAR, Brad Keselowski is your driver. 37. CFob posted: 11.15.2009 - 10:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "What does Ratcliff's cheating have to do with the moronic way Bucktooth Brad drives?" Why don't you put a picture of yourself up? I'd like to mock your appearance. "don't insult the memory of Dale Earnhardt by comparing him to a worthless punk like BB." A) He's a winning NASCAR driver, so he is AT LEAST worth more than you are. And if you actually liked Dale Earnhardt, you'd be happy yo see someone with a similar style out there. But clearly you spent all that time as a bandwagoner. A real shame. "He deserves to get caught up in other wrecks after all the stunts he's pulled. Maybe now he knows how Carl and some others felt at Memphis a few weeks ago." Yeah, he had it coming, because NO ONE else was bumping people out of the way during the Memphis race. Kyle Busch totally didn't punt him coming down to the flag. In fact, pretty sure no one even came close to thinking about maybe considering hitting each other during the entire Memphis race. Oh wait... 38. petty43 posted: 11.15.2009 - 10:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) new rule for this website. lets all agree that (A) there will never be another earnhardt sr. and (B) we're not allowed to compare anyone to him anymore. PERIOD!!!!!!!!!! 39. Mike posted: 11.16.2009 - 12:00 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "new rule for this website. lets all agree that (A) there will never be another earnhardt sr. and (B) we're not allowed to compare anyone to him anymore. PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!" I'm not saying Brad is as good as Dale Sr. I am saying Brad's driving style and attitude relates to Dale Sr more than any driver since 2001. 40. Smokefan05 posted: 11.16.2009 - 12:23 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Where is Kit when you need him? Brad don't take ANY of the today diva drivers BS. Baby Busch and Diva Hamlin at the WORST at that. Silver spoons up their A$$'s. It appears too me that people watch races with rose colored glass on. Or blinders, what ever which you like. They only see what they want too see. "Remember his interview at Charlotte in 2008. Something like "if you throw a brick at me, I'm cgonna throw a cinder block back". That was a year and a half ago. Still waiting for that cinder block, Diva. Besides, Denny doesn't even pump his own gas. He'll probably just have to pay somebody who actually has a set of balls to take Brad out." Yep still waiting...............has it happened yet? 41. Bronco posted: 11.16.2009 - 1:05 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) "If you were a true Dale Earnhardt fan and want another one like him in NASCAR, Brad Keselowski is your driver." I was never an Earnhardt fan and I'm fine with the current crop of NASCAR drivers. I'm just saying BB shouldn't be compared to a racing legend in any way. "Yep still waiting...............has it happened yet?" Yep, it already did. BB was the one who started this whole "rivalry" by picking up Hamlin's back tires and pulling up beside him under caution at Charlotte in 2008. Then Hamlin body slammed BB and knocked in his fender. BB being the loser that he is, summoned his pit crew to have a chat with Hamlin's crew, and then Dale Jr and Johnson's crews joined in as well. With regards to this race, Hamlin bumped BB, and BB bumped him back which moved Hamlin up the track. I have no problem with BB bumping a guy back, but I do have a problem with driving deep into the corner just so he can wreck a guy which is exactly what he did. CFob, since you've decided to take it upon yourself to become BB's personal apologist, maybe you can explain to me wtf his excuse was flat out wrecking Carl and several others down the backstretch at Memphis? So far BB has always been the one dishing out. When the payback starts coming (and it will come) I'd like to see how BB acts. Knowing him, he'll probably just get his pit crew to fight his battles for him, just like he did at Charlotte. Dear Denny and Kyle - PLEASE stuff BB's sorry little ass into the wall next week at Homestead. 42. Dodge posted: 11.16.2009 - 6:51 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I see Bronco is at it again. REAL race fans don't want to see people wreck others just for a payback. You can hurt a driver or fan, also unless the driver owns the car, you cause more issues like the owner of the wrecked car wants to rip the head off of they guy who wrecked his car. Bronco, Denny spun, not wrecked, no damage at all. Just wanted to clear that up in case you are that stupid. 43. Bronco posted: 11.16.2009 - 7:58 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) "I see Bronco is at it again. REAL race fans don't want to see people wreck others just for a payback." Oh Dodge, please don't lecture me about what REAL race fans do and don't. "You can hurt a driver or fan, also unless the driver owns the car, you cause more issues like the owner of the wrecked car wants to rip the head off of they guy who wrecked his car." BB's Talladega win sent 8 fans to the hospital and sent Carl for the ride of his life, so no, I don't think BB has any right to be concerned for driver or fan safety. And I doubt Dale Jr is going to want to rip off Denny or Kyle's head since he's got bigger issues to worry about it. "Bronco, Denny spun, not wrecked, no damage at all. Just wanted to clear that up in case you are that stupid." So what about Memphis, when BB felt he just had to ruin Carl's day (and many others)? Was there no damage then as well? Brad needs to taste the SAFER barrier just once as a payback for all the crap he's been pulling. 44. petty43 posted: 11.16.2009 - 9:02 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) i think you all forget that bb will be driving for roger , well actually he already is. remember how "aggressive" kurt busch used to be,hmmm, yep i am guessing brad will be the same dopamine driver that kurt turned into once roger lays the law down, and this whole discussion will have been a waste of time, just ask david stremme. if brad wants to drive like that he better be really good really fast of penske himself will not put up with it. 45. Dodge posted: 11.16.2009 - 9:44 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) BB's Talladega win sent 8 fans to the hospital and sent Carl for the ride of his life, so no, I don't think BB has any right to be concerned for driver or fan safety. And I doubt Dale Jr is going to want to rip off Denny or Kyle's head since he's got bigger issues to worry about it. He was going for the win. Something his Nationwide Series owner obviously can't do anymore. Only one to blame is NASCAR. They set the example high in the fall 2008 Talladega race. If you are forced to go below the line because someone is blocking, you don't win even though the rule says that if you are forced below the yellow line, the forcer MAY BE black flagged but never happens. They may be warned a second time as they are warned no blocking below he yellow line in the drivers meeting. So what about Memphis, when BB felt he just had to ruin Carl's day (and many others)? Was there no damage then as well? Brad needs to taste the SAFER barrier just once as a payback for all the crap he's been pulling. Tough to pass there. Same as Phoenix. 46. DaleSrFanForever posted: 11.16.2009 - 12:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) NASCAR has just turned into a rich man's country club with a bunch of rich pampered overpaid egotistical narcissistic jerks who think the world revolves around them. They are standing around, sipping their Brandy, talking bad about everyone and how much better they are than everyone else. Brad is the guy who walks in in a T-Shirt and jeans that none of the rich assholes like. It is SO awesome. It is like the scene in Happy Gilmore when Adam Sandler walks in to the pre-tournament social full of professional golfers with an AC/DC shirt on and asks where the keg is. Hilarious. The only thing that could have made the Diva vs Brad K incident any better is if, right before he spun Diva, Brad yelled into the radio "You're gonna die, clown!!!" 47. 3 8 88FAN4EVER posted: 11.16.2009 - 1:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Why does everyone think Brad Keselowski is this rebel that came from the streets to become a star? He drove for his families truck team. His dad was a great truck driver. You make it seem as if he came from some poor family and had to work his entire life just to make a nickle. Comeon he didnt come from dirt. HE IS DIRT. DONT EVER COMPARE HIM TO DALE EARNHARDT AGAIN. I was one of the biggest SR fans and i still am, and this guy isnt a SCAB ON HIS BUTT. Dale rattled cages but didnt cause huge wrecks. This guy just causes wrecks. He acts all tough in his interviews and then he stands behind his pit crew because he is too afraid to deal with drivers face to face. He either needs to man up or shutup, my guess is hes going to shut up after next week. 48. CFob posted: 11.16.2009 - 2:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) "CFob, since you've decided to take it upon yourself to become BB's personal apologist, maybe you can explain to me wtf his excuse was flat out wrecking Carl and several others down the backstretch at Memphis?" For one, I'm not his apologist, if I felt he did anything worthy of apologizing over, maybe, but I am simply defending him from the apparently less observant race fans who would seem to have fit in just fine in Colonial Salem, MA. What Brad was doing at Memphis was nothing more or less than what just about everyone was doing at Memphis, bouncing off of each other, hitting each other, beating on each other. Brad himself was almost wreck my Kyle Busch coming down to the line, however Brad had enough talent to not only save it, but go on to STILL win the race. I'm not sure if you've ever been to or seen a short track race, based on your ignorance I'd assume you haven't, making Memphis your first. That's how people race on smaller tracks. And the crazy part is, race cars occasionally touch. Weird right? Now, why don't you go lie down and think on that for a while, it must have already given you SUCH a terrible headache. "BB's Talladega win sent 8 fans to the hospital and sent Carl for the ride of his life, so no, I don't think BB has any right to be concerned for driver or fan safety. And I doubt Dale Jr is going to want to rip off Denny or Kyle's head since he's got bigger issues to worry about it." Yeah, Carl definitely shouldn't have tried blocking when Brad avoided going beneath the yellow line and violating one of NASCAR's rules. That was very reckless of Carl. "Why does everyone think Brad Keselowski is this rebel that came from the streets to become a star? He drove for his families truck team. His dad was a great truck driver. You make it seem as if he came from some poor family and had to work his entire life just to make a nickle. Comeon he didnt come from dirt. HE IS DIRT." You're right, he didn't come from dirt. He came from the Dixie Motor, Owosso and Auto City Speedway in Eastern Michigan, where he drove Factory Stocks, Limited Late Models and Super Late Models before going South to help with the struggling K Automotive team. Fans like you fail to realize you can develop as a driver other places besides a dirt track. Brad's family may have had money, but that doesn't mean they were handed everything. I attended a Michigan Auto Racing Fan Club meeting at the K Automotive shop, and saw Brad and Brian both thrashing away on their own Late Models. I've seen Brad get pushed around on tracks significantly smaller than Memphis when he was 15, 16 years old. Instead of just taking, he stood up for himself. I watched Brad grow and develop as a driver up until he went South. Just like Tim Fedewa, who comes from my hometown of Holt, MI, and Johnny Benson before him, all of us around here and immensely proud of Brad because he has developed into a talented driver who doesn't let the other guys shove him around. But claiming Brad is just a spoiled kid because his parents owned a Truck team is more bullshit than a bag a fertilizer. 49. Smokefan05 posted: 11.16.2009 - 2:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) No Bronco is hasn't happened yet. I'm still waiting for Diva do something. Oh wow, hitting someones fender is soooooooo tough. Oh and his crew did it on their own, unless Bronco you some sort of evidence too prove other wise like radio transmission or something? "They set the example high in the fall 2008 Talladega race. If you are forced to go below the line because someone is blocking, you don't win even though the rule says that if you are forced below the yellow line, the forcer MAY BE black flagged but never happens." People are still living in the past. Oh and this is from someone who thinks that the person who was in the #15 car won that race. Cfob I'm a Michigan boy myself. We know who too make good racecar drivers. :) "Dale rattled cages but didnt cause huge wrecks." He wrecked Terry in Bristol in 99 and that was a huge pile up. And he recieved boo's and 160,000 middle fingers that day. My how easily we foget things. And this from an Earnhardt Sr. fan. "NASCAR has just turned into a rich man's country club with a bunch of rich pampered overpaid egotistical narcissistic jerks who think the world revolves around them. They are standing around, sipping their Brandy, talking bad about everyone and how much better they are than everyone else. Brad is the guy who walks in in a T-Shirt and jeans that none of the rich assholes like. It is SO awesome." LOL quoted for awsomeiness. Oh BTW Diva Hamlin wouldn't be were he is if it weren't for Dale Jr. Jr. helped Diva get his ride for JGR. 50. Dodge posted: 11.16.2009 - 3:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I said this: "They set the example high in the fall 2008 Talladega race. If you are forced to go below the line because someone is blocking, you don't win even though the rule says that if you are forced below the yellow line, the forcer MAY BE black flagged but never happens." Smokefan05 said this: People are still living in the past. Oh and this is from someone who thinks that the person who was in the #15 car won that race. I can't stand Menard. Regan Smith should of been declared the winner but that was last year. The reason why I said the thing about Fall 2008 Talladega race is I was showing the idiots who blame Brad for the Spring Dega race that it happened because of NASCAR's crazy bias. 51. Cooper posted: 11.16.2009 - 4:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Dodge posted: 11.16.09 - 9:44 am So what about Memphis, when BB felt he just had to ruin Carl's day (and many others)? Was there no damage then as well? Brad needs to taste the SAFER barrier just once as a payback for all the crap he's been pulling." Don't give me that bull, every driver has been wrecked or wrecked someone. You need to decide whether your going to me the hammer or the nail. Remember when Brad was at california minding his own business,and two stupid drivers sent him into the wall at 180MPH? or maybe when he was going to win the truck race at memphis, and got wrecked with 10 to go. You think people felt bad for him, did he cry like denny hamlin, he took me out he took me out....no he did not. Nice guys finish last. 52. Bronco posted: 11.16.2009 - 4:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Tough to pass there. Same as Phoenix." Wow, Dodge. So if it's tough to pass at Memphis, that make it ok to just spin Carl Edwards and wreck Brian Ickler and Justin Allgaier (a future teammate) in the process? I guess it's Carl Edwards fault because according to what BB said after Phoenix "He should have been able to save it". And that's what I really don't like about the shit that BB does - other innocent victims are often collected when he makes his dumb moves. Mike Bliss was minding his business in this race and got a flat tire when BB wrecked Denny. Brian Ickler ended up with a wrecked race car in a rare Nationwide appearance. And how about Bristol the night race? I guess it was also "tough to pass there" so it was ok to cut down Justin's tire since BB couldn't get by him cleanly. "DONT EVER COMPARE HIM TO DALE EARNHARDT AGAIN. I was one of the biggest SR fans and i still am, and this guy isnt a SCAB ON HIS BUTT." Thank you. BB couldn't even polish Big E's trophies, so let's just end all comparisons between BB and a true racing legend. I hope Dale Jr knocks some sense into BB's head before he leaves the team, and that Kurt next year shows BB that you don't have to wreck the whole field to make a pass. "Nice guys finish last." I beg to differ. Carl Edwards is one of the nicest guys in the sport and in case you didn't already notice, he won this race. 53. Smokefan05 posted: 11.16.2009 - 5:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I understand were you are coming from Dodge. We have too big thank mouth Jimmy Spencer for the yellow line rule. But it's my opinion Paul Menard won that race. "I hope Dale Jr knocks some sense into BB's head before he leaves the team, and that Kurt next year shows BB that you don't have to wreck the whole field to make a pass." Jr. has a bunch of other sutff too worry about besides what Brad does Bronco. And this isn't a Jr. bash from me, he has more important stuff too worry about. 54. CFob posted: 11.16.2009 - 5:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I beg to differ. Carl Edwards is one of the nicest guys in the sport and in case you didn't already notice, he won this race." No, he said "Nice" guys, not people who pretend to be nice guys. "Cfob I'm a Michigan boy myself. We know who too make good racecar drivers. :)" Nice! From where bouts? 55. Talon64 posted: 11.16.2009 - 5:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Edward's 25th career Nationwide win ties him with Matt Kenseth for 6th all time, one back of Jeff Burton for 5th. Since 2005 Carl and Kyle Busch have combined to win 49 of the last 174 Nationwide races (28.2%) Harvick got his 120th career top five in 236 starts, a top 5 percentage of over 50% for his career. Sorenson's 3rd was his 2nd top five in 2 starts in the 32 Braun car. Keselowski got his 16th straight top ten finish, longest streak of any driver this season. David Ragan got his 7th top ten in his last 7 Nationwide starts. Bliss' 5th top ten in 5 starts in the 11 CJM car is his 4th straight top ten overall. Bliss won't be in the 11 CJM car at Homestead because Denny Hamlin will be driving it. But don't worry because oddly enough he'll be back driving the 1 James Finch car...?????? Steven Wallace gets his first top ten in the last 7 races, and 8 this year is a new career high for him. Trevor Bayne got his 5th straight top 20 finish, 14th after qualifying a career worst 37th. His average start before this race had been 8.18. Justin Allgaier's 16th place finish may have put him 16 points behind Mike Bliss for 5th in points heading into Homestead (doesn't Truck and Nationwide ROTY's also get to go on stage?) but it extended his ROTY lead by a point over Brendan Gaughan to 8. 4 drivers are separated by just 50 points for 10th in the standings. Annett is 10th just 41 points ahead of 11th place Kenny Wallace with Tony Raines in 12th a further 3 points behind and Michael McDowell another 5 points back in 13th. With one race to go the 20 JGR team is 69 points behind the 29 RCR team for 5th in the owners points, with the 33 KHI team a further 84 points ahead in 4th. The top 10 in owners points are all locked up with the 1 Finch team almost 400 points behind the 16 Roush car. 56. Bronco posted: 11.16.2009 - 5:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Jr. has a bunch of other sutff too worry about besides what Brad does Bronco. And this isn't a Jr. bash from me, he has more important stuff too worry about." I agree with you, Dale Jr's main priority should be doing everything that's in his power to have a successful 2010 season and put this nightmare season in his rearview mirror. But I at least hope he pulls BB after the Ford 300 next week and gives him some parting advice on how to pass cars without wrecking them. And I really don't think it's in BB's best interest to be making so many enemies on the track before he even runs a full Cup season. It's like Jason Ratcliff said, one of these days someone is gonna pay him back and it's gonna hurt. "No, he said "Nice" guys, not people who pretend to be nice guys." How does Carl "pretend" to be nice? If you knew anything about all the charitable stuff that Carl does for sick and needy children off the track maybe you wouldn't be running your mouth like that. He's a fan favorite and there's a reason why. 57. DaleSrFanForever posted: 11.16.2009 - 7:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Dale rattled cages but didnt cause huge wrecks." At Richmond in February 1986 he managed to take out the entire Top 5 (including himself) in one fell swoop with 3 laps to go. Even The Guy Who Won His Last Cup Race At Martinsville In 2004's Youngest Child hasn't caused that many cars to wreck at once. On a completely unrelated note, 1986 marked the end of Darrell Waltrip being the sport's dominant driver and marked the beginning of the Earnhardt/Childress dynasty of six Winston Cup's in nine years. "I hope Dale Jr knocks some sense into BB's head before he leaves the team, and that Kurt next year shows BB that you don't have to wreck the whole field to make a pass." Uh, you gotta have sense to be able to knock it into someone's head. Dale Jr is so gone from a mental perspective at this point he has NOTHING to offer. And Kurt Busch once had his NASCAR credentials taken away because he did so much stupid shit. And he almost ran over a pit crew guy at Dover. And just a friendly reminded, from May 7, 2006 to today (11/16/09) which is 1,289 days, Brad K and Dale Jr have the same number of Sprint Cup race wins. That is a hilarious stat in my opinion. 58. Dodge posted: 11.16.2009 - 7:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 51. Cooper posted: 11.16.09 - 4:16 pm "Dodge posted: 11.16.09 - 9:44 am If you read all my comments Cooper, I am for Brad. I like Brad, its that idiot Bronco. I copied his comments and put them before my comments. 59. Cooper posted: 11.16.2009 - 7:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) sorry dodge... 60. SoxFan24 posted: 11.16.2009 - 7:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) First thing I wanna know is why did Denny Hamlin get to race on Sunday?? The last time a driver said he was going to wreck someone on the radio on purpose was Kevin Harvick to Coy Gibbs during a truck race in 2002. He was suspended the next day for the Cup Race. DaleSrFan hit the nail right on the head when he said that Dale Jr and Brad K have the same number of Cup wins from May 2006 to now. That sat is astounding. Another stat is that Dale Jr finished second to BRAD K in that same race ....Denny cut down on Brad K at Dover and thats where this really started. Denny in this race BUMPED BRAD K first and Brad K retalliated and Denny spun out. Denny has no room to bitch about anything Someone on here posted that Dale Jr should knock some sense in Brad's head before leaving to go to Penske. Oh yeah so Brad can be a 25th place driver. (ironically enough that is where Brad K will probably end up next year in that dreaded 12 car in Cup) Brad will be a contender for the Nationwide title in 2010 with Kyle not running the whole schedule. The boy can drive and get the job done On to this crapjob of a race. Carl Edwards wins...who cares. The title is sewn up and the series is a complete joke. The top 10 in points are separated by almost 2000 POINTS!! That is rediculous. With that said My top 10 looks like this for 2010 1.Carl Edwards 2.Brad Keselowski 3.Kyle Busch (after missing 6 races) 4.Jason Leffler 5.Brian Scott 6.Justin Allgaier 7.Steven Wallace 8.Collin Braun 9.Mike Bliss (yes he will end up somewhere) 10.Ricky Stenhouse Jr. 61. SoxFan24 posted: 11.16.2009 - 7:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kurt Busch to knock sense in Brad K's head? Seriously??? Whats he going to do run over Brad K's pit crew during a race like he did his own at Dover this year?? You made some good points but damn that one was a head scratcher 62. Smokefan05 posted: 11.16.2009 - 7:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Cfob, Port Huron. 63. Talon64 posted: 11.16.2009 - 8:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Denny Hamlin's the one who's supposed to be the "veteran" (said lightly with regards to Hamlin) in this situation, and the one who's supposed to act mature. If he retaliates against Kez at Homestead then he's just as bad as he claims Kez to be, maybe even worse. I still hope he does though, it'll make for an exciting end to a season that technically ended on Saturday with Kyle Busch locking up the championship. 64. CFob posted: 11.16.2009 - 8:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "How does Carl "pretend" to be nice? If you knew anything about all the charitable stuff that Carl does for sick and needy children off the track maybe you wouldn't be running your mouth like that. He's a fan favorite and there's a reason why." Well, he did pull a punch on Matt Kenseth, that's not very nice. Dale Earnhardt was a fan favorite and nobody would go out of there way to say he was "nice guy" on the track, yet Dale did plenty of things that were nice for other people. Just because Carl does charitable things doesn't mean he isn't a phoney. And I never said I was unaware of the things Carl does for sick and needy kids, I said I thought he was a fake. Which I still think he is. Doing nice things and being a fake are not mutually exclusive. You can be both. And from how I see Carl, he is. "Cfob, Port Huron." Well then you're not all that far from Birch Run, half an hour or so, right? Fridays this summer you oughta stop on over the Dixie Motor Speedway, I work there and it has some of the best racing in the state. 65. Bronco posted: 11.16.2009 - 9:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "And just a friendly reminded, from May 7, 2006 to today (11/16/09) which is 1,289 days, Brad K and Dale Jr have the same number of Sprint Cup race wins. That is a hilarious stat in my opinion." Lol, that's the thing about statistics. You can pretty much rig them any way you want to say just about anything. And why stop there? Dale Jr and Jeff Gordon have the same number of wins during their time as teammates. Reutimann has more wins this year than all of RCR combined. "Denny has no room to bitch about anything" Denny bumped BB, and BB bumped him back. That's fair, I don't have a problem with BB returning a bump. What do I have a problem with is BB taking it a step further and spinning out Denny. That was completely uncalled for. "First thing I wanna know is why did Denny Hamlin get to race on Sunday?? The last time a driver said he was going to wreck someone on the radio on purpose was Kevin Harvick to Coy Gibbs during a truck race in 2002. He was suspended the next day for the Cup Race." Because the BB/Hamlin feud takes attention away from the shitty point battles in all three series. Hornaday has already clinched, Shrub can start and park next week and still win it, and Johnson has it wrapped up too. "Brad will be a contender for the Nationwide title in 2010 with Kyle not running the whole schedule. The boy can drive and get the job done" If he had decided to stay with the #88 team, then sure. But BB made the questionable move of going to a new and unproven team next year, and I don't see him enjoying the success he did this year. And this was Carl's first or second race with his new crew chief and he's already scored a win, so Carl is in great shape heading into next year, so he'll be hard to beat. "Well, he did pull a punch on Matt Kenseth, that's not very nice. Dale Earnhardt was a fan favorite and nobody would go out of there way to say he was "nice guy" on the track, yet Dale did plenty of things that were nice for other people. Just because Carl does charitable things doesn't mean he isn't a phoney." Ok, so Carl pulled a fake punch on his teammate, and has been involved in a few other minor altercations with other drivers - so what? Haven't we all done things when we're angry that we later regretted and apologized for? Carl doesn't bash his pit crew and crew chief over the radio, he doesn't badmouth his competitors and doesn't run away from a camera and he has a pleasant demeanor overall. And like I mentioned, he does a lot for sick and needy kids. I'm not sure exactly what he does that makes you think he's a phony. 66. Smokefan05 posted: 11.16.2009 - 10:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "And I never said I was unaware of the things Carl does for sick and needy kids, I said I thought he was a fake. Which I still think he is. Doing nice things and being a fake are not mutually exclusive. You can be both. And from how I see Carl, he is." Tony Stewert is the same way and yet gets bad mouthed. I know Tony isn't a saint. On vid on Youtube (ESPN's top 20 NASCAR drivers) someone said "Tony Stewert has like 12 different personalities. 9 of which are charming, funny, good to be around, the other 3 want too punch you in the face." I don't think Carl is fake but i seem too remember him dumping Mikey Waltrip at Phonix earlier in the year. Minor maybe but he still dumped him. "Well then you're not all that far from Birch Run, half an hour or so, right? Fridays this summer you oughta stop on over the Dixie Motor Speedway, I work there and it has some of the best racing in the state." Been there when i was younger, left early cuz i couldn't stand the noise. I'll see if i can make too their. Money is tight right now. "Kurt Busch to knock sense in Brad K's head? Seriously??? Whats he going to do run over Brad K's pit crew during a race like he did his own at Dover this year??" He also almost hit on of tony crew members at the same racetrack in 08. Kurt is a "model" of self control. "Denny Hamlin's the one who's supposed to be the "veteran" (said lightly with regards to Hamlin) in this situation, and the one who's supposed to act mature. If he retaliates against Kez at Homestead then he's just as bad as he claims Kez to be, maybe even worse." agree 100% 67. SoxFan24 posted: 11.16.2009 - 11:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Because the BB/Hamlin feud takes attention away from the shitty point battles in all three series. Hornaday has already clinched, Shrub can start and park next week and still win it, and Johnson has it wrapped up too." Pretty bad when a Nationwide feud is the only thing worth talking about in a Cup race. Unless you are ESPN and you spend half the race talking about how great the 48 is. Stevie Wonder can see how great the 48 is. The other half goes to Dale Jr and coming up with ways on how HE didn't screw up. 68. CFob posted: 11.16.2009 - 11:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Denny bumped BB, and BB bumped him back. That's fair, I don't have a problem with BB returning a bump. What do I have a problem with is BB taking it a step further and spinning out Denny. That was completely uncalled for." Denny's the one who said "throw a cinder block back." If he can't take what he threatens, he shouldn't threaten it. "Ok, so Carl pulled a fake punch on his teammate, and has been involved in a few other minor altercations with other drivers - so what? Haven't we all done things when we're angry that we later regretted and apologized for? Carl doesn't bash his pit crew and crew chief over the radio, he doesn't badmouth his competitors and doesn't run away from a camera and he has a pleasant demeanor overall. And like I mentioned, he does a lot for sick and needy kids. I'm not sure exactly what he does that makes you think he's a phony." His attitude seems a bit too Mayberry to be real. I don't think anyone can be THAT "Aw Shucks" and not carry a banjo around. "Been there when i was younger, left early cuz i couldn't stand the noise. I'll see if i can make too their. Money is tight right now." Well, I'm one of the announcers there. On a regular night it's only $12 to get in. Much better racing than this NASCAR stuff. 69. Bronco posted: 11.17.2009 - 12:08 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I don't think Carl is fake but i seem too remember him dumping Mikey Waltrip at Phonix earlier in the year. Minor maybe but he still dumped him." How does Carl wrecking Michael Waltrip relate to him supposedly having a "fake" personality? "Denny's the one who said "throw a cinder block back." If he can't take what he threatens, he shouldn't threaten it." Denny actually said a concrete block, but nonetheless what BB did was wreckless and unecessary. I really don't think Mike Bliss deserved to get a flat tire because BB decides to spin a guy out. BB seems to forget that not everyone has a Nationwide and Cup deal in place for 2010, and therefore every race is an opportunity for guys coming up through the ranks to show their talent. What did Brian Ickler ever do to BB to deserve a torn up racecar? And what's BB's excuse for cutting down Justin Allgaier's tire at Bristol while battling for the lead? 70. Kit posted: 11.17.2009 - 12:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I don't think Carl is fake but i seem too remember him dumping Mikey Waltrip at Phonix earlier in the year. Minor maybe but he still dumped him." Carl is definitely fake. Stewart isn't fake because he actually shows his real personality. 71. Kit posted: 11.17.2009 - 12:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "And i also said Brad K. has been winning in worse equipment than Baby Busch and Diva Hamlin in the Nationwide series. If i was Brad i wouldn't be worried about Diva Hamlin. His bark is worse than his bite." Haha, and Diva Hamlin bitches about it while he's in a full-time Cup ride. What a total dipshit. Brad K. really has some potential. He is the driver Dale Jr. is supposed to be. Ain't it funny how Dale Sr.'s son hired a driver who was more like Dale Sr. than he is? 72. Talon64 posted: 11.17.2009 - 1:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Carl comes off as fake because his personality on the track is widely different than the one off the track. He's as aggressive as anybody and will bump or even wreck guys to win but because he plays the "good guy" when he comes out of the car he never gets called on it. Remember when he got spun out by Dale Jr. for the win at Michigan in a Nationwide race (also memorable because it's the only time that Dale Jr. has ever gotten booed!) and then Carl showed he watches too much Days of Thunder by coming out of pit road and slamming into Dale Jr.'s car? I don't think Carl got nearly as roasted as if someone like Kyle Busch or Keselowski had done the same. At least Kyle and Kez act the same whether it's one or off the track, you know what to expect whether you like it or not. 73. DaleSrFanForever posted: 11.17.2009 - 4:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Kurt Busch to knock sense in Brad K's head? Seriously??? Whats he going to do run over Brad K's pit crew during a race like he did his own at Dover this year?? You made some good points but damn that one was a head scratcher" Ain't that the truth!! Usually Bronco puts some thought behind his posts, but to have Dale Jr AND Kurt Busch give sense to Brad K? That would be like having Mike tyson mentor you on staying out of trouble. "Ain't it funny how Dale Sr.'s son hired a driver who was more like Dale Sr. than he is?" It's very ironic. Brad's gonna be the one people point to when talking about Dale Jr and say "Why can't you be like him?" At least he retaliated against Kyle Busch at Richmond last year. But his inner drive is totally non existant. 74. Smokefan05 posted: 11.17.2009 - 6:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Carl comes off as fake because his personality on the track is widely different than the one off the track. He's as aggressive as anybody and will bump or even wreck guys to win but because he plays the "good guy" when he comes out of the car he never gets called on it." Talon said it for me. Bronco this is what i meant. Junior shouldn't be compared too his dad. I don't compare them as such. Junebug has always been less agressive and a different driver than his dad. Jr. shouldn't be his dad, he should be himself. And he shouldn't be something that he isn't. Now when i see Jr. doing interviews, i don't see Jr. standing in front of the camera, i see his dad standing there talking. (that's just me) Just because his last name is "Earnhardt" doesn't mean he should drive like his old man. Should he be more agressive? Yeah but not like his dad. Jr. wants too be different from his old man and i respect that, others should too. 75. SoxFan24 posted: 11.17.2009 - 8:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Diva" Hamlin is in way over his head if he's going to mess with Brad K. Brad K will plow his ass in the first wall he will find and will have no remorse. Like I said earlier Hamin started it at Dover and Hamlin started it at Phoenix. I dont' condone what Brad K did (and dont' take my plow his ass in the first wall with no remorse that seriously either) but Denny started this shit and Brad K isn't going to let some all-mighty cup driver try to intimidate him. Will Brad K do as well in a Penske Nationwide car? Only time will tell. That team has run okay but didn't contend for wins with Allgaier. But also, Allgaier is a rookie and has had runs similar to Brad K in his rookie year. You have to let the kid learn the tracks and the heavier Nationwide Cars to really judge. I honestly believe that Brad K as well as Allgaier will compete in 2010 given the right people in place Whats up with the Carl Edwards bashing? Edwards is everything that Hamlin and Kyle Busch are not. Edwards doesn't bitch and moan when he finishes 2nd. He ALWAYS thanks the pit crew and his fans no matter what happens. I'm not a Roush Fenway fan but I can deal with Carl because he can drive, aggressive when he needs to be and more importantly doesn't bash his pit crew every chance he gets 76. Bronco posted: 11.17.2009 - 8:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Whats up with the Carl Edwards bashing? Edwards is everything that Hamlin and Kyle Busch are not. Edwards doesn't bitch and moan when he finishes 2nd. He ALWAYS thanks the pit crew and his fans no matter what happens. I'm not a Roush Fenway fan but I can deal with Carl because he can drive, aggressive when he needs to be and more importantly doesn't bash his pit crew every chance he gets" Thank you for saying that. Carl's pit crew cost him the Texas cup race this year, but he didn't rip them apart because he knew he's cost them wins and good finishes in the past. Carl doesn't like finishing second anymore than the next guy, yet he's usually able to smile about it and congratulate the winner. And from what I hear, he always signs autographs with a smile and is very fan friendly. Carl can be aggressive, such as when he nudges Shrub at Bristol last year, but at least he doesn't take out 5 other cars in the process. And when he screws up, he's at least man enough to admit his mistake and apologize for it. Would it have hurt Krashalotski to say he was sorry for spinning out Carl and the others at Memphis? "Usually Bronco puts some thought behind his posts, but to have Dale Jr AND Kurt Busch give sense to Brad K? That would be like having Mike tyson mentor you on staying out of trouble." Dale Jr and Kurt Busch are respected drivers and they are proven winners - and they didn't become that way by ramming everything that was in their way. So even though they both have their brainfade moments, I do think they are qualified enough to beat some sense into BB. My point is, I just want someone, whether its Mr Hendrick or Mr Penske, Tony Sr or BB's crew chiefs next year, or some experienced drivers, to tell the guy he can't just be running over people each and every week. 77. Kit posted: 11.18.2009 - 6:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Usually Bronco puts some thought behind his posts" Yeah, the thoughts of the Tourettes Guy. Kurt Busch talking sense into Brad K.? Hilarious. I don't even have to go into detail. "Junior shouldn't be compared too his dad. I don't compare them as such." I generally compare Junior to all talented drivers, not particularly his father. When compared to all talented drivers, he is sucking shit right now. I don't think I've ever seen a driver curl up into a little ball and cry like Junior has this season. "Just because his last name is "Earnhardt" doesn't mean he should drive like his old man." Because Earnhardt Jr. has 18 wins, he better drive like someone who's familiar with victory lane, not a wannabe Casey Mears. "Whats up with the Carl Edwards bashing? Edwards is everything that Hamlin and Kyle Busch are not. Edwards doesn't bitch and moan when he finishes 2nd. He ALWAYS thanks the pit crew and his fans no matter what happens." Because his personality is fake, didn't you read above? What does him not complaining when he finishes second have to do with us discussing that he has a fake personality? I agree with you about Carl not ripping into his team, but that's not quite what we're talking about. "Dale Jr and Kurt Busch are respected drivers and they are proven winners - and they didn't become that way by ramming everything that was in their way." Bullshit. Kurt Busch caused several wrecks five years ago by ramming people out of his way. I don't consider him to be a respected driver, either. Dale Jr. on the other hand needs to get his own shit together before he hands out advice. He grew up around stock car racing yet he's finishing in 25th place every week. Pathetic. "So even though they both have their brainfade moments" Getting in trouble with the law (Kurt Busch) for stupid shit and running a Hendrick car to 25th place every week takes more than just a brainfade. "I do think they are qualified enough to beat some sense into BB." BB is probably going to run circles around them next year, at least Dale Jr. "My point is, I just want someone, whether its Mr Hendrick or Mr Penske, Tony Sr or BB's crew chiefs next year, or some experienced drivers, to tell the guy he can't just be running over people each and every week." As long as he doesn't pull Ernie Irvan or Tony Stewart stunts in Cup, he should be okay. 78. DaleSrFanForever posted: 11.18.2009 - 7:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Dale Jr and Kurt Busch are respected drivers and they are proven winners - and they didn't become that way by ramming everything that was in their way." 3 of Kurt Busch's 5 Bristol wins came as a result of ramming somebody out of his way. I'm not saying that is necessarily a bad thing, but Kurt is quite the ramrod himself. He has had run-ins with just about everyone. Even Dale Sr gave him the bird in his last race. And respect for Dale Jr is waning by the hour. "So even though they both have their brainfade moments" That's putting it mildly. "I do think they are qualified enough to beat some sense into BB." Well, whatever they use to beat sense into Brad, they should use on themselves first. 79. 18fan posted: 11.18.2009 - 8:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I don't know how anyone can think Brad will run circles around Kurt. It will be the other way around. I anticipate Brad having a Logano-type year, only a little better. 80. CFob posted: 11.18.2009 - 10:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) "I don't know how anyone can think Brad will run circles around Kurt. It will be the other way around. I anticipate Brad having a Logano-type year, only a little better." If Brad has a bad year in 2010 it won't be because of inexperience or lack of talent, it will be the same reason Ryan Newman at the end of his time with Penske and David Stremme were so underwhelming, the competitiveness of that 12 car. 81. Smokefan05 posted: 11.18.2009 - 10:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I agree with CFob. I would be that #12 car. Ryan left for a reason. It wasn't a 30th place ride when Stremme was driving it. it's about a 10th-15th place ride. But a talented driver can make up the difference and win some races in it. 82. Bronco posted: 11.18.2009 - 11:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Even Dale Sr gave him the bird in his last race." Funny you should bring up Dale Sr. He had no problems wrecking Terry Labonte at Bristol in 1999, but when Mayfield moved him out of the way at Pocono he flipped him off, as opposed to accepting defeat graciously. And after the famous incident with Ricky Rudd at North Wilkesboro in 1989, he had the audacity to say Ricky should be fined and suspended for the rest of the season over a simple racing incident. Similarily, he had no problems trading paint with other drivers all throughout his career, but when a rookie bangs into him a little bit, he starts shaking his fist. Bottom line - the man had no problems dishing out but could never really take it from others and so the fact that he flipped off Kurt is pretty meaningless. "If Brad has a bad year in 2010 it won't be because of inexperience or lack of talent, it will be the same reason Ryan Newman at the end of his time with Penske and David Stremme were so underwhelming, the competitiveness of that 12 car." And whose fault is that? Wreckalotski could have, and should have stayed with the #88 team in the Nationwide series and possibly won a championship, given the fact that Shrub will not be racing fulltime in 2010. But no, he decided to toss all that away and hook up with a mediocre Cup team (presumably for the extra money, and having more oppurtunities to wreck Hamlin and others). If I were him, I would have stayed in the Nationwide series in 2010, added more race wins to my resume and possibly win a championship, and then take over Kevin Harvick's ride for 2011 or Scott Slow's ride (when he inevitably gets canned next year). "But a talented driver can make up the difference and win some races in it." So far in Wreckalotski's two Cup races in the #12, he's been involved in two wrecks not of his own making (he deserves a taste of his own medicine) but even before the wrecks he's barely cracked the top 25. So I don't see him spraying the champagne anytime soon. 83. Dodge posted: 11.19.2009 - 7:17 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "If I were him, I would have stayed in the Nationwide series in 2010, added more race wins to my resume and possibly win a championship, and then take over Kevin Harvick's ride for 2011 or Scott Slow's ride (when he inevitably gets canned next year)." Thing is that a rumor is saying that JR Motorsports don't have full season sponsorship, only very limited sponsorship. When Dale Jr. was asked, he says that the 88 and 5 teams would not run without sponsorship. 84. DaleSrFanForever posted: 11.19.2009 - 12:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I anticipate Brad having a Logano-type year, only a little better." That is a bad comparison. Logano stepped into a car that had won 2 championships in the last 7 years and 30+ races. And he has the second best crew chief in the garage. I think the woes of the #12 car have been documented clearly. But I think Brad will give it a good ride. Look, Stremme just flat out sucks, and I think Newman is a little overrated. Yeah, he won 8 races in 2003, but in most of those he made the winning "pass" under caution while everyone in front of him pitted. Ever since 2004 when everyone else caught up to them in technology it has been mediocre at best. A lot will depend on Penske Racing. They have had trouble putting two good seasons in a row together recently. But one thing that is for sure is that they have got some horsepower. Maybe Brad can breathe some new life into them. They have grown wary of Kurt Busch's constant criticizing of their organizational approach, and understandably so. If Brad just drives the piss out of what he's got and takes the "give no quarter, ask no quarter" approach he's been taking, it could really boost morale. The rest of the garage may hate it (those poor spoiled pampered millionaires), but when your driver is willing to do that, it lights a fire under you. That's a big reason I like Brad. He'll do what it takes and worry about the consequences later. He is passionate, but he channels that passion into driving the hell out of his car, even when the established veterans think the situation doesn't call for it. He doesn't channel it into moping and quitting when things don't go right like the Busch Brothers, Diva Hamlin, and Kevin Harvick. And he doesn't channel it into taking himself out trying to take someone else out like Stewart does. 85. Bronco posted: 11.19.2009 - 1:36 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "But I think Brad will give it a good ride." How do you figure that? In the 2 races he has run in the #12, he hovered around the 25th to 30th position before getting caught up in a wreck. Granted, two races isn't that much to judge by but it does make you wonder how 2010 will be. "If Brad just drives the piss out of what he's got and takes the "give no quarter, ask no quarter" approach he's been taking, it could really boost morale." Yeah, I'm sure it's really gonna boost team morale when they have to fix up a bunch of wrecked race cars due to Causeawreckski being paid back for earlier incidents. "He is passionate, but he channels that passion into driving the hell out of his car, even when the established veterans think the situation doesn't call for it." I think you're confusing "driving the hell out of your car" with wrecking everybody in your way. Driving the hell out of your car is Tim Richmond racing at Riverside (or just about anywhere else), or John Andretti winning at Martinsville in 1999 after getting spun out, falling a lap down and sneaking by Jeff Burton at the very end on old tires, or Dale Earnhardt coming from 18th to the win in 5 laps at Talladega in 2000. I'm still curious as to what your excuse is for Brad cutting down Justin Allgaier's tire at Bristol, or why he felt the need to wreck Carl Edwards and several others at Memphis a few weeks back. 86. Talon64 posted: 11.19.2009 - 4:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) "I'm still curious as to what your excuse is for Brad cutting down Justin Allgaier's tire at Bristol, or why he felt the need to wreck Carl Edwards and several others at Memphis a few weeks back." Bristol was a driver error that any driver could make, while Memphis was... well he needed to make sure the race lived up to previous Memphis wreckfests! lol 87. Talon64 posted: 11.19.2009 - 4:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Oh and Rusty Wallace Incorporated is switching to Toyota for 2010. Apparently Rusty is already a Toyota dealer, and he'll be doing commercials and be in the marketing for Toyota himself. 88. Bronco posted: 11.19.2009 - 5:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Oh and Rusty Wallace Incorporated is switching to Toyota for 2010." In that case, Mark "Hollywood" Armstrong shouldn't feel too bad about his little slip of the tongue a few months back at Michigan. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0sT51CDNfk 89. DaleSrFanForever posted: 11.19.2009 - 7:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I'm still curious as to what your excuse is for Brad cutting down Justin Allgaier's tire at Bristol, or why he felt the need to wreck Carl Edwards and several others at Memphis a few weeks back." Because he is a hard racer, and in racing that hard you sometimes slip up and cause a spin or accident. He cut Allgaier's tire cause he slid into the side of him on corner exit. It happens. And he admitted he made a mistake spinning Carl. "How do you figure that?" I gave a paragraph explanation on why. Did you just forget to read that? Did you find a typo or misused grammar and figured the whole thing was irrelevant like a lawyer would? Or are you from the French speaking part of Canada and have trouble with English? The driver of the #12 car the past few years has either a) completely sucked (Stremme) or b) wasn't happy with the team and is one of NASCAR's underrated pouters (Newman). "Granted, two races isn't that much to judge by but it does make you wonder how 2010 will be." Go to Jimmie Johnson's page and look up his 3 Cup races results in 2001. 90. Talon64 posted: 11.19.2009 - 7:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Go to Jimmie Johnson's page and look up his 3 Cup races results in 2001." Those were also the first 3 races for the 48 team, while Keselowski's stepped into an established full time ride. Albeit a full time ride that's been average at best over the last 4 seasons. Kez's situation is a lot closer to when Vickers stepped into the 25 for the last 5 races of 2003, best finish of 13th but average finish of 29.4. He qualified in the top five 4 times though. Or Scott Speed when he stepped into the 84 last year for the last 5 races, best finish of 16th but 30.6 average finish for a team that ran regularly in the top 20 with Allmendinger. These three races are good for Kez to get an early start on getting used to the team and for them to get used to him his performance in these races shouldn't be judged. 91. Bronco posted: 11.19.2009 - 7:39 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Because he is a hard racer, and in racing that hard you sometimes slip up and cause a spin or accident." Wow, is that really your excuse? I guess Sideways Sam, Stremme and John Wrecks Weekly must be really hard racers then with all the spins and accidents that they've caused. Jimmie Johnson and Mark Martin race about as hard as anyone else and both are proven winners - and you don't see them being careless jackasses on the track. "Or are you from the French speaking part of Canada and have trouble with English?" That French speaking part of Canada that you speak of is the province of Quebec. I guess you need a geography refresher on top of your long overdue grammar refresher. Then again, I can't really blame you, considering the fact that most Americans don't even know their own state capital. "Go to Jimmie Johnson's page and look up his 3 Cup races results in 2001.' Those were Jimmie's first outings in a Cup car. Causeawreckski on the other hand has driven races in the 25 and 09 cars, so he should be held to a higher standard. 92. CFob posted: 11.19.2009 - 11:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "And whose fault is that? Wreckalotski could have, and should have stayed with the #88 team in the Nationwide series and possibly won a championship, given the fact that Shrub will not be racing fulltime in 2010. But no, he decided to toss all that away and hook up with a mediocre Cup team (presumably for the extra money, and having more oppurtunities to wreck Hamlin and others). If I were him, I would have stayed in the Nationwide series in 2010, added more race wins to my resume and possibly win a championship, and then take over Kevin Harvick's ride for 2011 or Scott Slow's ride (when he inevitably gets canned next year)." Well, for one the family people always like to bring up have been huge supporters of Dodge. When Brad was coming up he and Brian were ALWAYS in Dodge cars, even their Late Models had Dodge noses on them. So, it does make sense that when Brad felt he was ready for a Cup ride and Hendrick was unable to find him a spot, he would go to the last remaining Dodge team. And YOU may have chosen differently, but there is a reason Brad is the new driver of the #12 Penske Dodge, and you're some guy typing on a response to a race. "So far in Wreckalotski's two Cup races in the #12, he's been involved in two wrecks not of his own making (he deserves a taste of his own medicine) but even before the wrecks he's barely cracked the top 25. So I don't see him spraying the champagne anytime soon." Wait, his own medicine? How was having people spin into him having anything to do with those drivers deciding they didn't want to be the Nationwide Series personal punching bag. You are a very confused individual my friend. "I'm still curious as to what your excuse is for Brad cutting down Justin Allgaier's tire at Bristol, or why he felt the need to wreck Carl Edwards and several others at Memphis a few weeks back." Did Brad stick a knife out of the window and jab it into Allgaier's tire? More likely than not it was incidental contact. And I've responded about Memphis countless times, just because you're choosing to be temporarily illiterate doesn't mean no one has said anything. It means you've made a choice to play dumb for the sake of your argument. "Wow, is that really your excuse? I guess Sideways Sam, Stremme and John Wrecks Weekly must be really hard racers then with all the spins and accidents that they've caused." Yeah, because Brad is spinning himself out every week. And make up your mind, are you going to kiss Stremme ass for losing his ride, or are you going to agree he was and always has been mediocre in Cup. If you want to debate the facts you can't play both sides. "Jimmie Johnson and Mark Martin race about as hard as anyone else and both are proven winners - and you don't see them being careless jackasses on the track." Can you really say Jimmie is a hard racer when he is so far ahead of everyone and usually just cruising for gas mileage? And I don't see Brad being a careless jackass on the track, at least no more so than you've been with the facts, but I digress. Brad was beat all over his first year and a half in the 88 before he finally wised up and hit back when he was getting ping ponged around the track. If you like the pansy drivers who whine whenever they get touched (Hamlin), then by all means keep up your complaining, but don't worship at the altar of some who race that way while crapping all over others who drive the same way. "That French speaking part of Canada that you speak of is the province of Quebec. I guess you need a geography refresher on top of your long overdue grammar refresher. Then again, I can't really blame you, considering the fact that most Americans don't even know their own state capital." Isn't French the second official language of Canada? So technically the entire country would be the French speaking part if they have another official language. And from what I have noticed your spelling is nothing to lord over us. Also, before you mock our country, which country is NASCAR based in, and where did the race happen that you're typing of right now? Don't mock the United States when you so clearly are enjoying the sporting events of our nation. That makes you, at best, a hypocrite. "Those were Jimmie's first outings in a Cup car. Causeawreckski on the other hand has driven races in the 25 and 09 cars, so he should be held to a higher standard." Causeawreckski? Really? At least BB made sense. These nicknames are getting a bit pathetic. 93. Smokefan05 posted: 11.20.2009 - 12:16 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Wait, his own medicine? How was having people spin into him having anything to do with those drivers deciding they didn't want to be the Nationwide Series personal punching bag. You are a very confused individual my friend." Either your the hammer or the nail. Brad is deciding NOT too be the nail. "Yeah, because Brad is spinning himself out every week. And make up your mind, are you going to kiss Stremme ass for losing his ride, or are you going to agree he was and always has been mediocre in Cup. If you want to debate the facts you can't play both sides." Stremme has and always will be a talentless hack. "Isn't French the second official language of Canada? So technically the entire country would be the French speaking part if they have another official language. And from what I have noticed your spelling is nothing to lord over us. Also, before you mock our country, which country is NASCAR based in, and where did the race happen that you're typing of right now? Don't mock the United States when you so clearly are enjoying the sporting events of our nation. That makes you, at best, a hypocrite." Oh great now we need the english police too come. You know i've dealt the english police on the SPEED forums. It's the damn internet, who gives two craps about spelling and grammer. Just your point across and be done, that's what i do. (or atleast try too do) And CFob not all Americans enjoy sporting events, NASCAR fans find something too complain about all the time. ;) "Causeawreckski? Really? At least BB made sense. These nicknames are getting a bit pathetic." Atleast "baby" busch and "diva" hamlin has a ring too it. 94. RCRandPenskeGuy posted: 11.20.2009 - 1:52 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "NASCAR fans find something too complain about all the time." Ain't that the truth. 95. Cooper posted: 11.20.2009 - 10:21 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Can people please be more creative when giving Brad a nickname. All you or doing is adding crash or wreck to lowski. It's like saying Jimmie Crapson. Anyways, you know nascar is in a tough spot, when there is more comments on the nationwide race than the cup race. And yes, Brad is going to struggle, but that's why he is getting practice. If you realized, in all of Brad's cup races, hes really only ruffled feathers at Talladega, everywhere else he has been a clean driver. 96. Smokefan05 posted: 11.20.2009 - 2:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) RCRandPenskeGuy it why NASCAR is dying. BF and crew haven't made the best choices but neither have the fans. And they are helping too kill this sport. This isn't all on BF and crew. When it comes too BF trying too make me happy, i cut him some slack. 97. DaleSrFanForever posted: 11.20.2009 - 3:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Wow, is that really your excuse? I guess Sideways Sam, Stremme and John Wrecks Weekly must be really hard racers then with all the spins and accidents that they've caused." The difference is that those guys take themselves out too where Kes has the talent to keep himself going straight. He isn't totally out of control. There is a method to his madness. "That French speaking part of Canada that you speak of is the province of Quebec. I guess you need a geography refresher on top of your long overdue grammar refresher." Yes, I would need a geography refresher because I don't know a damn thing about Canada nor do I have any desire to know anything about it. I don't need to know anything about it. 98. AlmirolaFan88 posted: 06.25.2011 - 1:13 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Last race for Casey Atwood. 99. Todd posted: 12.30.2011 - 1:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) People like DaleSrFanForever is the reason i never could stand Sr.All his fans were redneck S.O.B.,s. 100. Daniel posted: 05.21.2012 - 2:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) In using fastest 43: #05 Blake Koch, #31 Daryl Harr, #52 Chris Lawson, #89 Morgan Shepherd Out using fastest 43: #01 Mike Wallace, #23 Ken Butler III, #47 Chris Cook, #81 Alex Tagliani 101. CBASS posted: 02.02.2013 - 6:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsor updates #20 Super Mario Bros. Wii/ GameStop #0 Lowery Plumbing #07 Harrah's Phoenix #98 Richmond Water Heaters/ Menards #24 Hefty Odor Block/ TownePlace by Marriott #81 Dodge http://www.thehotlap.com/gallery/2009/262/ 102. someone posted: 03.16.2015 - 7:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) lol, keselowski fans -_- 103. E-Rick95 posted: 03.23.2020 - 12:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) final race for Casey Atwood 104. Foote posted: 05.08.2020 - 2:49 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Denny Hamlin after Brad K spun him: "I could give y'all a bunch of soundbytes but instead...there are a lot of guys that have chips they want to cash with him, I'm just gonna be the first one at the pay window." In other words: I could give y'all a bunch of soundbytes, but instead I'm going to give y'all a bunch of soundbytes. Thank God he has matured! 105. WhereAreTheBeers posted: 07.26.2020 - 8:54 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Casey Atwood makes his final career appearance start and parking for Wayne Day. Oh how different things looked for him at the start of the decade 106. Rich posted: 09.23.2020 - 2:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Marty Reid, Andy Petree and Dale Jarrett were the commentators. Dave Burns, Shannon Spake, Vince Welch and Jamie Little were the pit road reporters. Tim Brewer was in the ESPN Craftsman tech garage. And finally, Allen Bestwick, Rusty Wallace and Brad Daugherty were in the ESPN pit studio. 107. rm posted: 03.08.2021 - 10:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Some foreshadowing from #18 CC Jason Ratcliff's interview under the final caution, regarding Brad Keselowski & Denny Hamlin's back-and-forth that ended with Keselowski turning Hamlin around: "[Keselowski] definitely went down to the middle of the corner and punted [Hamlin]...unfortunately, I'm afraid he's gonna get hurt, somebody is going to get angry and do it at a higher speed race track, and we don't want to see that." And four months later at Atlanta, that seemed to come true when Carl Edwards infamously turned Keselowski up and over in the closing laps of the Cup race. Not exactly an ideal outcome. 108. TeamDCRfan posted: 03.08.2021 - 11:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If I remember right, Antonio Perez was supposed to run the 87 for NEMCO, then got swapped out for some reason and Joe had to drive. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Post a comment:* Your comment may not appear immediately - all comments must be approved by the moderator. Name: Comment: