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  1.   Dodge posted:
  08.07.2010 - 6:46 pm
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What a wreck started by Left-turn Leffler. I don't like Braun but to
throw him under the bus saying that you gotta give and take when Leffler
admitted it was his mistake but bring up all of Braun's incidents that
he was involved in wasn't needed. Anyway, good job Marcos.


  2.   RLewis9 posted:
  08.07.2010 - 6:48 pm
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Marcos Ambrose wins the Nationwide series race at Watkins Glen for the
third straight year.

Nelson Piquet, Jr. makes his Nationwide debut with an impressive 7th
place finish.

There was a pretty big crash early in the race. Jason Leffler, Boris
Said, Justin Allgaier, Trevor Bayne, Tony Raines, and Brendan Gaughan
were all caught up in it.


  3.   Steve.M posted:
  08.07.2010 - 7:39 pm
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1 Austrailian, 1 Brazilian and 3 Canadians in the top 11.

While I want all those Canadian guys to do well I've been pulling for JR
Fitzpatrick the most, not just because he is a NCATS regular but also
with him being as youn as he is there is a realistic chance that he can
get a shot making it in this sport, his 7th at Road America and 11th
(after spining out) here at the Glen are a great start, hopefully he has
another great run at Montreal and help himself get some type of full
time ride, funny thing is he isnt even known as a road course racer, he
just runs them so much every year in the Canadian Tire Series that he
has adapted much better than others.


  4.   The Great Dave posted:
  08.07.2010 - 8:15 pm
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  5.   loomer posted:
  08.07.2010 - 8:44 pm
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Dominant performance by Marcos. Might be his last win with JTG.

Also Kyle continues to show how much of a sore loser he is. "Might as
well take the day off", is what Kyle remarked on the radio after falling
back to 5th place. It's like he takes 1 step forwards, and 2 steps
backwards. He had been much better this year with regards to how he
treated his crew, and making the best out of a ill-handling car. Today
showed he can resort to his old antics at any moment.


  6.   rw posted:
  08.07.2010 - 8:59 pm
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Good Job Marcos!

Solid run for Michael McDowell, 10th place in a S&P car.


  7.   petty43 posted:
  08.07.2010 - 9:16 pm
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that pedal next to the GAS is called a brake pedal, jason, it slows the
car down so you can get back in traffic, dumbass. it works much better
than relying on another driver who sucks, to let you in when he has 20
cars on HIS own ass.


  8.   Anonymous posted:
  08.07.2010 - 9:44 pm
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Steve Wallace. Enough Said.


  9.   Cooper posted:
  08.07.2010 - 10:20 pm
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loomer, this is exactly why cup guys shouldn't be racing in the Wide
Series. They don't take it seriously and their are tonnes of guys out
their that would give 110% to run 5th.


  10.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
  08.07.2010 - 10:25 pm
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Ambrose made this one look easy. He completely demoralized Kyle Busch,
which just shows how far he still has to go. True competitors never give
up. That is the difference between him and drivers like Gordon and JJ.
When things go wrong for them, they step it up a notch and wait for an
opportunity to pounce instead of giving up.

Jason Leffler is a complete tool. What a loser! He drove off the track,
then directly into Colin's right rear, wrecked himself and caused a
pileup (literally!) then says they need more give and take. You were
barely to his rear quarter panel you idiot!! That's what happens when
you wait until the last minute to try to merge back into traffic.
Nothing is ever his fault. That is why he is a first class LOSER!!!

Carl blows up and Brad finishes 4th. This basically gives Brad a 2 race
cushion in the NWide points. That is good to have with Bristol and
another road course coming up shortly. Hopefully he'll get his NWide
title, then focus strictly on Cup.


  11.   Anonymous posted:
  08.07.2010 - 11:12 pm
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#8-

What about Steve Wallace?


  12.   RCRandPenskeGuy posted:
  08.08.2010 - 12:37 am
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Jason Leffler is a loser, always has been, and will likely always be.
All I can say about the wreck he caused, is that there's a reason he
couldn't cut it in the Cup Series. And I agree with what has already
been said about his "give & take" speech.

After seeing Ambrose lose the last two NW road-course races in
heartbreaking fashion, I'm glad to see him pick up a win. He deserves it
for his mad skills on these tracks.

And Nelson Piquet continues to prove his critics at the beginning of the
season wrong, as he scored a top-10 in his very first Nationwide start.
I know it was a road-course, but add this finish to his good results
from Trucks this year and we have a potentially promising driver.


  13.   rw posted:
  08.08.2010 - 12:57 am
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"Carl blows up and Brad finishes 4th. This basically gives Brad a 2 race
cushion in the NWide points. That is good to have with Bristol and
another road course coming up shortly. Hopefully he'll get his NWide
title, then focus strictly on Cup."

That's what I've been saying the whole time :), just take the title and
run!


  14.   Timmy Quivy posted:
  08.08.2010 - 1:28 am
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KB now has more than 8600 laps led in his NNS career, expanding to his
record. He has also led in every race he has competed in this season.


  15.   18fan posted:
  08.08.2010 - 2:35 am
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I've never understood these Cup drivers getting so pissed off in
Nationwide races, Kyle especially, but Harvick is also always
complaining in Nationwide races, mainly about his pit crew.

The only problem with the restrictions, if they are put in, is even if
they Cup drivers only run 7 races a year they will still act like
spoiled brats like they do now, we just won't have to hear it as much
after Nationwide races.


  16.   Ryan posted:
  08.08.2010 - 2:43 am
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Harvick actually took the blame today after the race in an ESPN
interview. He said he cost the team a better finish.


  17.   Bronco posted:
  08.08.2010 - 2:56 am
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Marcos finally doesn't screw up and snags yet another Watkins Glen win.
The STP, ArmorAll and Zippo paint schemes that he runs each year are
awesome. This is the third win for a one off deal this year, including
both Daytona races.

Pure heartbreak for Carl to have an engine failure, preventing him
winning 3 straight road races.

Good run for Steve Wallace, he has 10 straight top 15s and top 10s in
half his starts, which makes 2010 a career year for him.

"Hopefully he'll get his NWide title, then focus strictly on Cup."

I wouldn't count on it, now that he knows just how good the #22 team is,
I fully expect him to run 28-30 races next year as well (all the
companion events), at which point you're not really focusing on Cup.


  18.   Anonymous posted:
  08.08.2010 - 5:05 am
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Thought NA$CAR was finally putting a cap on the # of races a Cupper can
run? Or will they wait until Danica goes full-time?


  19.   NazRacePhan posted:
  08.08.2010 - 7:12 am
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That wreck looks like something I've accomplished on NASCAR on PS2!!!!


  20.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
  08.08.2010 - 10:29 am
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"That wreck looks like something I've accomplished on NASCAR on PS2!!!!"

Lol, I was thinking the same thing. I play the Papyrus version on my
computer (always the AeroWar88 Mod) and some of the wrecks I cause
result in cars literally piling on top of each other, just like this
one. If only about 3 or 4 of them would have flipped over (Thank God
they didn't) it would have been identical.

"I fully expect him to run 28-30 races next year as well (all the
companion events), at which point you're not really focusing on Cup."

I'm sure Brad would like to do that (for whatever reason), but I have a
feeling Miller Lite will put the clamps on that. I've noticed drivers of
beer cars don't run a whole lot of Busch/NWide races. I remember Dale
Jr, while in the #8 Bud car, saying he would like to run more Busch
races, but Budweiser didn't want him to because they wanted him to be
seen mainly in the Bud car as the Bud guy. That sounds kinda stupid, but
that seems to be the way the beer companies think. Kasey Kahne went from
running half the Busch races in '06 and '07 to running 20 total over the
past 3 years.

So hopefully Miller and Roger will make him focus solely on the Blue
Deuce next year. I hope!!

Just as a side note, if Harvick does get the Bud deal next year, are
they gonna do the same to him? He is all about running NWide races. Are
they gonna relax that with him or force him to cut back?


  21.   Frank posted:
  08.08.2010 - 12:57 pm
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Guys, I can understand your complains about buschwhackers but in that
race we've seen first class road racing show because there were enough
top class guys from Cup plus some very strong ringers such Fellows,
Fitzpatrick, Villeneuve and even Piquet who deserves respect. Just look
who created the big one and how cup guy avoided it with full stop. At RA
there were just 3 buschwhackers and we've seen collision/mistake at
almost every corner in the end.

=Pure heartbreak for Carl to have an engine failure, preventing him
winning 3 straight road races.=

O yeah, if not that engine he'd dominated this race such as at RA...
What an unlucky prevention!

DSFF, nice note about buschwhacking and beer sponsor. We'll see soon are
you right


  22.   Critic posted:
  08.08.2010 - 8:47 pm
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Only a short comment needed, to summarize the day's major event: Jason
Leffler puts on display his glaringly flawed knowledge of racing, even
highway, etiquette and goes a long way to explaining why he twice failed
at the Cup level.


  23.   Bronco posted:
  08.09.2010 - 9:15 am
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"I remember Dale Jr, while in the #8 Bud car, saying he would like to
run more Busch races, but Budweiser didn't want him to because they
wanted him to be seen mainly in the Bud car as the Bud guy. That sounds
kinda stupid, but that seems to be the way the beer companies think."

That's true to an extent, Bud even stopped him from running IROC races
since Crown Royal was sponsoring it back then. But that was because
Busch was sponsoring the second tier series back then, so they wanted
the Bud guy to stay as the Bud guy.

However, now that the second tier series is being sponsored by an
insurance company, I don't think any beer sponsor will exercise those
rules on their driver. That's why I expect BK to run either the full
schedule next year since let's face it, he's getting his butt whipped in
Cup by guys like Menard and Allmendinger (both who are having fine
seasons).


  24.   Timmy Quivy posted:
  08.09.2010 - 10:58 am
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Nelson Piquet, Jr. has now competed in five NASCAR races on five very
different circuits. He has four top-tens. Anyone impressed yet?


  25.   Anonymous posted:
  08.09.2010 - 1:22 pm
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Brad wont run the full season, are you all forgetting that cup drivers
wont be allowed to run full schedules?


  26.   WallaceFan posted:
  08.09.2010 - 1:27 pm
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Steve Wallace - 10 consecutive top 15 finishes, 9 of those top 10s.
Over those last 10 races he is 3rd in points to only Carl and Brad.

The way things are looking, and with cup drivers potentially being
forced back Steve is quickly becoming a championship contender whether
youll admit it or not.
In no particular order id say next year is looking like it may come down
to Steve, Trevor Bayne, and perhaps even Brendan Gaughan. Id say
Allgaier of course but I think hes going to end up on the Cup Side.

Brad Coleman would be a definate contender if he could drive full time.
Lets hope that Busch/Logano split 1 car with Debenedetto driving the non
companions so hat Brad can finally get the chance he deserves.


  27.   Talon64 posted:
  08.09.2010 - 5:40 pm
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"I fully expect him to run 28-30 races next year as well (all the
companion events), at which point you're not really focusing on Cup."

LOL, what does that say about YOUR guy who's been running the series
full time the last 7 seasons? Man, you have to wonder how well Carl
would do if he didn't focus so much time on finishing 2nd in the
championship every season's he had legit competition.

Anyways, Marcos gets his 3rd straight Nationwide win at the Glen which
are all of his career victories in the series. He won from his 3rd
career Nationwide pole (his first career pole in 2007 actually came at
an oval, Memphis).

The top 3 starters in the race finished in the top 3, as Joey Logano
started and finished 2nd for his best road course finish in Nationwide.
It's his 3rd straight 2nd place finish and 5th in his last 9 starts to
lead the series in that stat.

Harvick started and finished 3rd for his 130th top five in 264
Nationwide starts. It's the 8th time in 10 seasons that he's run at
least half the races that Harvick's had at least 10 top fives in a season.

Brad Keselowski gets his 6th finish of 4th this season, and 2nd straight
4th place finish on the road courses (his best finish in Nationwide on
the road courses).

Kyle Busch makes it 4 drivers in the top 5 who finished where they
started; Kyle gets his 3rd straight top five at the Glen and 4th top
five in 7 career NNS road course starts.

Ron Fellows gets his 2nd top ten in 2 starts driving the #88 JRM car at
road courses this season. It's his 10th top ten in 17 career Nationwide
starts.

Nelson Piquet Jr. finishes 7th in his Nationwide debut. He's the 4th
driver of the #27 this year to finish in the top 10, and it's the team's
10th on the season (they're 10th in the owners standings).

Jacques Villeneuve makes his first career start at Watkins Glen, where
his father Gilles won in Formula 1 for Ferrari back in 1979. His 8th
place finish is the #32 team's 18th top ten of the season, 2nd best in
the series behind only the #22.

Steve Wallace gets his 4th straight top ten finish, a new career high.
It's his 4th top ten in 10 career NNS road course starts, and 2nd straight.

Michael McDowell gets his first top ten of the season, and just the 2nd
top ten for MacDonald Motorsports in 166 Nationwide starts since 2003.

JR Fitzpatrick has finishes of 7th and 11th so far in the first 2 of 3
scheduled road course starts in the #7 JRM car.

Tayler Malsam gets his 5th top 20 finish in 8 starts this season, 2nd in
2 road course starts.

Brian Scott was the highest finishing rookie in 13th. Brian Scott has a
20 point lead over Ricky Stenhouse Jr. in the ROTY standings, and a 29
point lead over Colin Braun who's now hit 17 starts on the season.

18 year old Alex Kennedy finishes a career-best 16th in his 3rd career
start (all in 2010).

Carl Edwards' blown engine not only drops him to 327 points behind
Keselowski for the lead in the drivers' standings, but drop the #60 to
5th in the owners standings behind the #18, #22, #20 and #33.


  28.   Bronco posted:
  08.09.2010 - 7:30 pm
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"LOL, what does that say about YOUR guy who's been running the series
full time the last 7 seasons? Man, you have to wonder how well Carl
would do if he didn't focus so much time on finishing 2nd in the
championship every season's he had legit competition."

Talon, there's a huge difference between Carl and BK. Even in Carl's
worst season of Cup (last year) he finishes just outside the top 10 in
points with 7 top 5s, and 14 top 10s, and came within a lap of winning a
race. In all his other seasons he has never finished worse than 12th and
has won 16 races overall, and the 2008 Cup championship if you go by
overall points. So you can't really say him pulling double duty is
hurting his Cup efforts, he has pretty much found the balance between
successful in both.

BK on the other hand, is having a great Nationwide season along with a
horrible Cup year. He hasn't really done any better than David Stremme,
and hasn't had a top 15 since May, has a bunch of DNFs. So it's fair to
say that BK is the one that needs to figure out that balance if he ever
wants to lose the "One-hit wonder" label that he's carrying around now.


  29.   Frank posted:
  08.10.2010 - 9:08 am
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the 2008 Cup championship if you go by overall points???

LOL, are you seriously thinking that JJ couldn't score 10 more point if
it needed?


  30.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
  08.10.2010 - 11:06 am
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I was just going off the fact that Kahne took over the Bud car in '08,
the same year NWide took over from Busch, yet Kahne's NWide starts still
dropped drastically since. And the Miller guys don't seem to run many
NWide races either. You could be right, I just think Miller will cut him
back. Plus with a possible cap coming, hopefully he won't do it.


  31.   Talon64 posted:
  08.10.2010 - 4:50 pm
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"Talon, there's a huge difference between Carl and BK. Even in Carl's
worst season of Cup (last year) he finishes just outside the top 10 in
points with 7 top 5s, and 14 top 10s, and came within a lap of winning a
race. In all his other seasons he has never finished worse than 12th and
has won 16 races overall, and the 2008 Cup championship if you go by
overall points. So you can't really say him pulling double duty is
hurting his Cup efforts, he has pretty much found the balance between
successful in both.

BK on the other hand, is having a great Nationwide season along with a
horrible Cup year. He hasn't really done any better than David Stremme,
and hasn't had a top 15 since May, has a bunch of DNFs. So it's fair to
say that BK is the one that needs to figure out that balance if he ever
wants to lose the "One-hit wonder" label that he's carrying around now."

Great comparison, a guy who's been in Cup for 6 years versus someone in
his first full season. Yet Keselowski's STILL won more recently in Cup
than Edwards has. Hell, if Edwards manages to go the rest of the year
without a win (but that's not looking likely, so I need to milk this for
all it's worth while I can LOL) then they'll be equal in batting .500 in
winning seasons; 1 for 2 for Brad, 3 for 6 for Edwards.

And how do you know that Carl's found the balance? That not running
Nationwide wouldn't have allowed him to win the '08 championship? Or not
avoid his winless seasons in '06 and '09 which are a big hits against
his Cup career resume? The sky could be the limit but instead Carl's
lowering himself to running the 2nd series full time and it's acted as a
crutch recently for his lowly Cup results BASED ON EXPECTATIONS, given
he won 9 races in 2008 but hasn't done anything close to that since.

Anyways, Carl could time it just right and get his 100th career top five
in his 200th career Nationwide start if he finishes in the top 5 in the
next two races at Michigan and Bristol.


  32.   Bronco posted:
  08.10.2010 - 6:43 pm
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"Great comparison, a guy who's been in Cup for 6 years versus someone in
his first full season."

Forget Carl for a second and compare BK to the previous driver of the
#12. He's wrecked a lot, struggles to run above 20th on most weekend,
hasn't posted a top 10 in 25 starts (going back to '09). What has he
done for the #12 team that Stremme didn't?

"Yet Keselowski's STILL won more recently in Cup than Edwards has."

Yeah, and his Talladega win was more recent than anything Edwards,
Kenseth, Earnhardt Jr, Gordon and Burton have done. What does that
prove? Absolutely nothing. Unless he wins again, what happened at
Talladega that day will be considered a fluke, in the same way that
people don't consider JPM a complete stock car driver since he hasn't
won on an oval yet.

"That not running Nationwide wouldn't have allowed him to win the '08
championship?"

Because the only things that came between Carl and the 2008 championship
was his blunder at Talladega, and having some kind of electrical issue
with his car a week later at Charlotte. Take those two bad finishes
away, and his worst finish over those 10 races was 4th, something even
the #48 team would be hard pressed to do. Running Nationwide wasn't even
a factor.

"Or not avoid his winless seasons in '06 and '09 which are a big hits
against his Cup career resume?"

Those were weak seasons for Roush in which all their cars struggled.
Even so, he finished ahead of two teammates in 2006, and ahead of three
in 2009, and his worst finish in both of those years was a respectable
12th. I don't see what running the full Nationwide schedule had to do
with him being winless. Plus, I remember him having a crew chief change
in 2006 which clearly didn't work out.

I know his Cup career has taken a huge dive after Homestead 2008, but
you can't expect another 9 win season out of him when all the Fords are
running poorly.


  33.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
  08.11.2010 - 11:31 am
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This quote from Brad is a bit of a relief to hear when asked about
running both schedules full time:


"There's some weeks it's a pain in the ass, to be quite frank," he said.
"Then there's some weeks where it's advantageous, so you've just got to
balance them."

From The Detroit News:
http://www.detnews.com/article/20100811/SPORTS03/8110332/1047/SPORTS/Brad-Keselowski-focuses-on-racing#ixzz0wJKyds1J

Hopefully he, at most, runs only a half schedule next year, at tracks
where he feels he needs extra seat time just to understand the track
better. Hopefully.


  34.   RCRandPenskeGuy posted:
  08.12.2010 - 1:09 pm
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Hopefully that means Brad might cut back on his NW races after this
year. He doesn't need to be following the path of the assholes who have
been doing it for years.

I've always said that I never had a problem with drivers running half of
the races and no more. When Mark Martin used to run in this series back
in the 90's, he ran about half of the races each year so he was never in
contention for the title.


  35.   18fan posted:
  06.25.2011 - 6:13 pm
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Bronco, so Matt Kenseth nearly winning the championship in 2006 and Greg
Biffle having fast cars and winning twice despite terrible luck
definitely shows that Roush was weak in 2006. Absolutely false.


  36.   83andJoe posted:
  07.07.2013 - 12:19 am
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#35 crew chief: Dave Fuge Jr.


  37.   ch posted:
  07.18.2013 - 8:27 pm
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#36 sponsor: Front Row Motorsports (36 team was still front row at this
time)


  38.   ch posted:
  07.22.2013 - 3:39 pm
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#92 / #96 Owner: Bob Keselowski (Teammate to the #26)


  39.   ch posted:
  07.23.2013 - 12:12 am
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#26 Sponsor: K-Automotive Motorsports (Consistency)


  40.   Premium Doesn't Suck 62 66 94 98 posted:
  11.11.2015 - 12:45 pm
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Withdrew:

#43 TBA Sponsor:? Manufacturer: Ford Owner: Mike Curb


  41.   Dexter Morgan posted:
  03.19.2017 - 2:06 pm
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Kevin Hamlin was the first driver turned spotter in the same race.


  42.   Jimmie4life posted:
  05.04.2018 - 7:19 pm
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Cars involved in wreck on lap 25: 09, 99, 12, 16, 6, 34, 33, 62, 38, 23,
05.


  43.   SweetRich posted:
  07.09.2020 - 4:17 pm
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The 84th and final career Nationwide series race for Specialty Racing,
the single car team operated by Charles Shoffner.


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