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  1.   00andJoe posted:
  04.23.2011 - 10:03 pm
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Not a horrible race, but not too exciting, and the only real surprise
was that Reuitmann finsihed 14th instead of 5th.

...well, Josh Wise was a pleasant surprise, at least.

First race for Go Canada Racing.

Mikey Kyle scores his best career finish in Nationwide (in two races).

Nine start-and-parkers...
...and Michael Annett being 10th in points is just sad.


  2.   18fan posted:
  04.23.2011 - 10:09 pm
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What a surprise, Cup drivers dominate a lower series race. Since now the
Cup drivers run the standalone races, there is really no point to watch
this series.


  3.   00andJoe posted:
  04.23.2011 - 10:13 pm
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Actually, I mind the Cup drivers running the standalones less than I do
them running companion events. In standalones, the Cup drives don't get
an unfair advantage from "extra" (Cup) practice sessions, and it lets
fans in smaller markets get a chance to meet the higher-profile drivers.

Best to go with the plan I proposed in the comments a few races ago, though:

"Any driver in the top 35 in drivers' points in a series is not allowed
to compete in more than 5 races combined in series 'lower' than the
series the driver is in the top 35 in points in.

"Exceptions:

"1. If a driver is not currently employed as a driver in the series he
is in the top 35 in points in.

"2. If a driver has rookie status in the highest-level series he is in
the top 35 in points in.

"3. If a driver is replacing an injured driver in a lower-level series
on a one-race basis, the race will not count against his 5 race quota."

(2, for instance, would allow a Cup rookie to also run a full BGN
season, a la Harvick in 2001 or Bayne this year if he was collecting Cup
points.)


  4.   Rusty posted:
  04.23.2011 - 10:18 pm
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Glad I missed this one, not suprised to see Cup drivers take the top 4
spots. I am a little suprised to see Carl was the one who dominated
instead of Kyle. Does the laps led indicate how good he was?

One thing that stands out is Austin Dillon, good to see him get a good
finish. He's a guy with a future. I see him as a replacement for Jeff
Burton in the #31 eventually. Glad RCR is being patient with him and
letting him run a couple years of trucks then Nationwide next year,
rather than just rush him into Cup like a lot of guys.


  5.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
  04.23.2011 - 10:24 pm
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My winners and losers from this race:

WINNER: Ricky Craven in the booth. He is outstanding up there. Even with
a horrible cast around him (Marty Ried and Daugherty) he still gave
insightful analysis. ESPN, please ditch DJ and put Craven in his spot.

LOSER: Us racing fans. Because they will never replace DJ with Craven
because Ricky doesn't have the name power.

WINNER: Austin Dillon's post race shirt. That was an Old School
Earnhardt shirt, before racing merchandise was really refined. It looked
just like the shirts I wore when I was 6 or 7.

LOSER: Kenny Wallace constantly reminding us he has 9 NWide wins, none
since '01. That is just sad. When you have to speak for your stats, it
just makes you look weak.

WINNER: The guy in the shirt in the stands when Carl went in, with the
NASCAR logo, only it said "FART" instead. That cracked me up.

LOSER: Carl Edwards' "rabid fanbase". He jumped into the crowd, and
about 10 people came to be around him. Pitiful. Compare that to the time
Tony Stewart climbed the fence (I think this was at a Daytona summer
race), came down the other side and damn near got trampled.

WINNER: Jimmie Johnson. While he was relaxing somewhere on his week off,
probably getting ready for Easter with his daughter, kicking back a few
cold ones with his weird Southern Cal buddies, and neatly trimming his
beard (where are you JJNTB?) two of his main competitors in Cup, and one
guy he laps twice a race finished 1-2-3 in this race, not taking the
chance to rest their minds.

LOSER: The Nationwide Series. Even on "stand alone" weekends it is more
of the same. By banning Cup guys from getting points, but still letting
them run all the races, pretending they are in the Cup Series racing for
something truly important, not just who gets to be "best of the rest"
like they are actually doing in Cup, we are going to have the weakest
NWide champ since Clint Bowyer's sham of an '08 title. For the record,
there is "Jimmie Johnson" and everyone else in Cup is "the rest".


  6.   Cooper posted:
  04.23.2011 - 10:36 pm
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I thought it was good racing. The battle between
Keselowski/Busch/Edwards was very entertaining. I just wish these three
could carry their battles for the lead into the main event on Sunday.
Unfortunately B-Rad is running 20th while Edwards and Busch are running
5th. One day Brad will get there. Maybe Brad should grow a nicely
trimmed beard.


  7.   18fan posted:
  04.23.2011 - 10:45 pm
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DSFF, I think Reid and Petree should be taken out of the booth before
DJ, but those are relatively low standards and I would like to see him
go too, but they better not let Rusty anywhere near the booth, because
he makes all three of them look amazing.


  8.   jensenators posted:
  04.23.2011 - 10:52 pm
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austin dillon gets his 2nd top 10 in 8 career starts. his best finish
since finishing 4th at memphis in 2008.


  9.   New 14&88 Fan posted:
  04.23.2011 - 11:07 pm
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Good race for the lead late between Carl, Shrub, and BradK but otherwise
just more of the same for the Nationwide Series.Josh Wise was a nice
surprise though and great run for Austin Dillon.


  10.   JP88 posted:
  04.23.2011 - 11:12 pm
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They gotta do something about this, it's one thing for drivers like
Menard and Reutimann to run the NNS but for guys who are double-digit
winners in Cup, this is ridiculous. Thank you Harvick for doing what's
right and allowing Austin to run the race.

It's pathetic when drivers aren't able to shine and develop because a
couple guys have to stoop down to win...I'm all for the Cup guys running
at Daytona, Talladega, and a couple other tracks like Charlotte and
Atlanta...but no cup guys should be allowed to run at the stand-alone
events or more than like 10 races.

I know I've heard it here before but for Kyle, Carl, and Kevin, the
Nationwide Series is the "Jimmie Johnson Recovery Tour" or something
along those lines


  11.   nascarfreak99 posted:
  04.23.2011 - 11:33 pm
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Actually, I think if you just park from the series Carl, Kyle, Brad,
Joey, and Kevin [Harvick], and replace them with maybe [respectively],
Colin Braun, Darrell Wallace Jr., Parker Kligerman, Ryan Truex, and
Austin Dillon; Then you've got on hell of a series going on with the
right balance of new developmental drivers and former Cup drivers.


  12.   Anonymous posted:
  04.24.2011 - 12:31 am
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Rowdy did not win so I'm happy.


  13.   Jarrett88fan posted:
  04.24.2011 - 12:35 am
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More of the same on a standalone weekend... I'm beginning to believe the
only way a Nationwide-only driver will win a race is if Kyle/Carl/Brad
all wreck together or have separate mechanical failures during a race.

You heard it here first!!!! 34 of the 35 Nationwide Series races WILL BE
WON BY CUP DRIVERS!


Where is the love for Dale Jarrett in the booth? Ricky Craven would be a
great full-time Nationwide booth commentator and fill-in for DJ in a few
ABC/ESPN Cup races. His sharp, relatively unbiased analysis is on point.
I would have DJ/Craven for ABC/ESPN Cup race broadcasts, instead of the
DJ/Rusty combination. However, I think Rusty should stay with Allen
Bestwick and Brad in the Speedbooth.

"WINNER: Ricky Craven in the booth. He is outstanding up there. Even
with a horrible cast around him (Marty Reid and Daugherty) he still gave
insightful analysis. ESPN, please ditch DJ and put Craven in his spot.

LOSER: Us racing fans. Because they will never replace DJ with Craven
because Ricky doesn't have the name power."


  14.   Jarrett88fan posted:
  04.24.2011 - 12:45 am
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Props to Harvick for running Austin Dillon at Nashville. Now if Happy
could book a couple drivers to take the reins of the #33 throughout the
Chase, he will definitely increase his chances of beating Jimmie.

Too bad Carl 'Eddie Haskill' Edwards can't figure that out.


  15.   Smokefan05 posted:
  04.24.2011 - 12:50 am
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"Too bad Carl 'Eddie Haskill' Edwards can't figure that out."

Don't think he ever will.

BTW for those of how didn't know, Kyle Busch is *concidering* running a
Full season next year in the N'wide in his won equipment. (tho he may
have already decided to run full time in his own stuff)

Let the bashing begin. :-P


  16.   Bronco posted:
  04.24.2011 - 1:08 am
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"Too bad Carl 'Eddie Haskill' Edwards can't figure that out."

That would be true, if it weren't for the fact that Carl is the current
Cup points leader and has outperformed Jimmie almost every week. And
were it not for Dale Jr last week, Jimmie would still be winless a
quarter of the way into a season.

Like I said on the truck page, I don't think Nashville will keep two Cup
and Truck dates for next year. A weak attendance and a lack of a title
sponsor will do that.

I'm a bit disappointed in Aric Almirola's season to date, yes he's very
much in the championship hunt but you would expect him to run in the top
5 more often with Cup regulars.


  17.   JimmieJohnsonsNeatlyTrimmedBeard posted:
  04.24.2011 - 1:09 am
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"WINNER: Jimmie Johnson. While he was relaxing somewhere on his week
off, probably getting ready for Easter with his daughter, kicking back a
few cold ones with his weird Southern Cal buddies, and neatly trimming
his beard (where are you JJNTB?) two of his main competitors in Cup, and
one guy he laps twice a race finished 1-2-3 in this race, not taking the
chance to rest their minds."

So Jimmie Johnson wins things in races he isn't even entered in now?
Wow. For the record, I'm pretty sure he's somewhere tropical this week,
he posted a pic on twitter that looked like the Caribbean to me.


  18.   Jarrett88fan posted:
  04.24.2011 - 1:22 am
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Bronco-
That is correct, right now. After Homestead, I would like to see him be
the points leader. Jimmie went for the win at Talladega because a couple
of close calls at Phoenix, California and Martinsville slipped through
their fingers. I wouldn't be surprised to see the 48 win 3-4 more races
before the Chase begins. Truthfully, I expect it like fireworks on the
4th of July. Once the Chase begins the onus however, is on Carl (and by
extension, everyone else) to keep pace.

"Too bad Carl 'Eddie Haskill' Edwards can't figure that out."

That would be true, if it weren't for the fact that Carl is the current
Cup points leader and has outperformed Jimmie almost every week. And
were it not for Dale Jr last week, Jimmie would still be winless a
quarter of the way into a season.


  19.   Schroeder51 posted:
  04.24.2011 - 1:28 am
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I wouldn't be surprised if NASCAR honestly allowed the Cup drivers to
earn points in the other series again after this season. Sad, but I see
that happening.


  20.   Jarrett88fan posted:
  04.24.2011 - 1:38 am
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Fact: Kyle/Carl/Brad/Kevin/Joey in 2011 are running for the owners
championship and are helping their respective brands win the
manufactures title.

Opinion: Why else in a series that doesn't award points for Cup drivers,
would those same drivers run all or most of the races if not for the
above two reasons?


  21.   RCRandPenskeGuy posted:
  04.24.2011 - 1:38 am
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"but for guys who are double-digit winners in Cup, this is ridiculous.
Thank you Harvick for doing what's right and allowing Austin to run the
race."

I totally agree. I know the Cup Series is off this weekend, but it's
still a bummer that Edwards, Busch, Brad K and Logano managed to sweep
the top four spots in what's supposed to be a Nationwide regular
stand-alone race. I am starting to think that NASCAR needed to also
limit how many races full-time Cup drivers can run in the lower tier
series. At least Harvick didn't run this race.


  22.   Rusty posted:
  04.24.2011 - 1:51 am
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Well some good news is, it doesn't look like Kyle Busch will run
Richmond next week. Kelly Bires is scheduled to drive the #18 instead,
so unless he is running the #20 or another car, he doesn't look like
he'll race. But him not racing will just open the door for a Carl or
Brad win rather than a Nationwide regular win. Oddly enough the race
will be aired on SPEED, still won't watch though, not just because I've
decided to stop watching this series, but because I'd rather watch the
NFL Draft anyways.


  23.   Android posted:
  04.24.2011 - 2:12 am
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Do you mean "considering" Smokefan? And no he's not thinking about
running the full Nationwide schedule next year, at least that's what he
has said recently. He said he wants a full Nationwide team next year but
he doesn't want to drive it. If something's changed, link it up.


  24.   JimmieJohnsonsNeatlyTrimmedBeard posted:
  04.24.2011 - 4:12 am
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"I'm all for the Cup guys running at Daytona, Talladega, and a couple
other tracks like Charlotte and Atlanta...but no cup guys should be
allowed to run at the stand-alone events or more than like 10 races."

The problem with this, theoretically, if all the Cup drivers each run a
different 10 races, they can still win every race save for the few
standalone events.


  25.   Brad24 posted:
  04.24.2011 - 9:32 am
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8-0.

Glad I missed this one.


  26.   Frank posted:
  04.24.2011 - 9:40 am
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Why are so many smart people here think that Cup drivers must be
restricted from running lower series? Guys, dig deeper! When and more
important why buschwhacking became a trend? Any ban or restiction will
made it even worse in my opinion although I found interesting following
how dynamic point standings are now - there's no cha$e and every race
counts. And because of that I think not only JJ but 4-6 more Cup drivers
can rest at Carribean one weekend every month until August.


  27.   Ivan Balakhonov posted:
  04.24.2011 - 10:39 am
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2Frank

Yeah man, what a great champion will be crowned in November! With zero
wins and less than 10 top-5s!


  28.   Old Joe posted:
  04.24.2011 - 10:47 am
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Nascar made an attempt, but their, points "fix", only has gone so far.
The Only way to fix the old, "Bushwacker" situation, is to only allow
drivers to compete in more than 10 races in 1 series. That should allow
2/3'ds of most of the races to be free, from sprint cup drivers, as well
as openning up rides for younger/new drivers. Gives these guys
oppertunities to make a real name for themselves in their own series. It
could become a real developement series, by putting these guys in some
good rides again. If Carl, Kyle, Kevin, and Brad can only run 10 races,
somebody's gotta fill their seats, and we might see somebody win a race
besides the cup guys. The points they accumulate won't matter, since
they can only run 10 races anyway. Somebody send, "this", to Brian
France & Mike Helton.


  29.   dUDE gUY posted:
  04.24.2011 - 11:05 am
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Another Cup Lite race I'm glad I missed.


Old Joe, I am all for limiting Cuppers in the lower series. However, I
think the races for Cuppers in Nationwide should be a little less,
perhaps 7, and for Trucks it should be 5. Though, considering the fact
that NASCAR seems to believe that the health of the Nationwide and Truck
series relies on Cuppers being there we may never see such a limit
enforced.


  30.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
  04.24.2011 - 12:58 pm
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"but they better not let Rusty anywhere near the booth"

Agreed 100%.

"That would be true, if it weren't for the fact that Carl is the current
Cup points leader and has outperformed Jimmie almost every week. And
were it not for Dale Jr last week, Jimmie would still be winless a
quarter of the way into a season."

Here is the difference: Carl is off to one of the best starts of his
career, and JJ one of his tamest. Yet they have still won the same
number of races, and JJ is just 5 points behind. Will the notoriously
streaky Carl be able to still be perfoming at this level come September
- November which is officially Jimmie Time? And BTW, if one of Tony's
crew members hadn't messed up in the pits, Carl would still be winless.
Every race has a certain element of luck to it. Except Texas. Kenseth
just kicked everyone's ass that night.


  31.   Jarrett88fan posted:
  04.24.2011 - 1:25 pm
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We are going around in circles every week Cup drivers saturate
Nationwide races. This much is true: Until sponsors and owners start
taking chances with up and coming drivers again, 'star' Cup drivers will
continue to occupy all the seat time.

Over the course of 12 years in the Busch/Nationwide Series, we've lost
Myrtle Beach, South Boston, Nashville Fairgrounds, Nazareth, Rockingham,
Pikes Peak, Mexico City, Milwaukee and Memphis. The lack of a title
sponsor for this Nashville race might spell doom for the first race at
this track. Martinsville hosted one Busch race in 2006. Tracks that have
been added in the 12 years and are still operating include Chicago,
Kansas, Kentucky, Iowa, Road America, Montreal. The point is that there
is few and far between 'standalone' Nationwide Series weekends to hold
together some semblance of an identity. I remember not so long ago in
the 1990s and early 2000s when Busch only drivers won the standalone
events, with an occasional full-time Cup driver winning at these
tracks.

What the Nationwide Series needs is balance now more than ever, if it is
to regain a sense of identity.


  32.   Smokefan05 posted:
  04.24.2011 - 2:20 pm
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"Do you mean "considering" Smokefan? And no he's not thinking about
running the full Nationwide schedule next year, at least that's what he
has said recently. He said he wants a full Nationwide team next year but
he doesn't want to drive it. If something's changed, link it up."

i think ESPNs reported it but i'm a member of the SPEED boards and no
has reported anything. I'll check the sub-forums for something.


  33.   Cooper posted:
  04.24.2011 - 2:24 pm
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Well I think the mindset that NASCAR needs to decide with the Nationwide
Series is whether they consider the series a "Minor League Series" or a
"Companion Series". I don't think NASCAR wants it to be a Minor League
Series considering they've went from having stand alone races at tracks
that don't have Cup races to racing at tracks with Cup races. If they
want to turn it into a stand alone series they're going to have to run
races that will make it impossible for Cup drivers to race.

Nationwide Race in Location A @3:00pm
Sprint Cup Race in Location B @7:30pm

This will make it impossible for drivers to run both series. Having
Nationwide races on Saturday night while the Cup Series race is Sunday
afternoon makes it possible for drivers to do it. You don't need funky
rules to stop it just make it impossible.

You know how cool it would be to watch the Nationwide Series race at 3,
then have the Cup Race follow it at a totally different track. That
would be cool.


  34.   00andJoe posted:
  04.24.2011 - 2:55 pm
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Another option would be to go back to the V-6 engines the Busch Series
used up to 1994.

1. More economical (it's Green!)
2. Less "cup-lite"
3. Easier to move up to from lower series.


  35.   JimmieJohnsonsNeatlyTrimmedBeard posted:
  04.24.2011 - 3:22 pm
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I meant to post this on the Nationwide race page, but I accidentally
posted it over on the Truck one, so I'll just paste it here:

I do think it is more NASCAR's fault than anybody else's for the
problems with this series and the trucks. Like someone else said, it's
hard to blame the teams for trying to make the most money and win the
most races they can by following the rules NASCAR has set up, especially
in this economy and with how hard it is to come by with sponsorship.
There are a lot of people being employed and paid because of Kyle Busch,
I'll give him that. And if Joe Gibbs or Jack Roush really wanted to
train a bunch of future Cup drivers, they simply wouldn't let Kyle or
Carl in the cars. It's not like they are going up to their owners,
begging them to let them run the races. A lot of people like to
characterize it like that, but that's just not the case. Those owners
would put their foot down if need be, they aren't going to be bossed
around by their drivers. And truthfully, teams like Gibbs and Roush just
don't need any new Cup drivers right now. Well David Ragan is probably
going to be out of a job soon, but Trevor Bayne has already proven
himself and will most likely take that ride. But unless Gibbs is
planning on adding a 4th car any time soon, their Cup line up is set for
the next decade. So what is NASCAR supposed to do, tell them they aren't
allowed to run a Nationwide team because they aren't cultivating a
future Cup driver? Well they haven't, so Gibbs can just keep going along
winning these races until a rule says they can't.

I think NASCAR is afraid that if they restrict the Cup presence in the
series, the major sponsors will pull out completely, then the smaller
sponsors will leave, and the series will die. Then how many people are
out of a decent paying job? NASCAR needs to decide what they want the
identity of these series to be, and do everything they can to make sure
it works within that frame. Is it a minor league? A feeder series? The
NASCAR equivalent of the UFL? A cheaper way to see your favorite Cup
stars? Because right now it's like a combination of all that, and more,
and clearly the fans are getting tired. The solution to making this
series might not be to just limit Cup drivers. It might be cutting down
the number of races significantly, cutting the costs to run a successful
team (engines, parts, tires), cheaper tickets, better options for
sponsors to contribute and feel they are getting their moneys worth, a
schedule that centralizes the tracks to cut travel costs, who knows.

I don't know what needs to be done, but I think cutting down Cup drivers
would just be treating a symptom, rather than attacking the root of the
problem.


  36.   Smokefan05 posted:
  04.24.2011 - 5:26 pm
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Well NASCAR could mandate one car (per team) for cup guys to run only
half the races, the rest of the cars are for N'wide drivers only. ANd
also (not like this will happen) make sponsers support the younger drivers.

Since only 1 car will be for CUp guys to run, sponsers will have to put
their name on a N'wide drivers eventually. (again not like this will
happen but this would be a better start then not having Cup guys running
all the races with no driver points.)

Or just to make is simple, if a Cup drivers run a race: no driver
points, no owner points, no purse money. You want all 3 of those? Have a
N'wide guy run the car.


  37.   potatosalad48 posted:
  04.24.2011 - 7:49 pm
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At least Kyle didn't win.


  38.   00andJoe posted:
  04.24.2011 - 8:46 pm
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#35: Actually, I expect Stenhouse to move up to replace Ragan if that
happens this year, instead of Bayne. But I digress...

Your points make some sense. Here'd what I'd do in a nutshell:

-The "eligibility" rules I posted in post #3. With an addendum: if you
have a driver in the top 35 in Cup driver points, you are -not- locked
into the show.

-"Spec" (per manufacturer) fuel-injected V-6 engines. You sign for two
engines from GM/Ford/Dodge/Toyota for each race weekend, they're sealed,
and the inspectors watch like a hawk for seal-breakage. Any evidence of
tampering with an engine, and you're out for the next five races. (Note
that this is Spec -by manufacturer-, not Spec -overall- like ASA did:
the engines would still be unique to each brand.)

-36-car fields, not 43. This lets you run on smaller tracks, which leads
to...

-32 race schedule. With a minimum of "companion" races - mostly
"classic" ones. Daytona, Charlotte, Bristol, and the like. Places like
Martinsville, South Boston, Milwaukee and Irwindale (really, why are
there no major NASCAR series racing here?) would be added in place of
places like Chicago, or second races at Nashville and Texas.


  39.   Smokefan05 posted:
  04.24.2011 - 10:07 pm
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"Any evidence of tampering with an engine, and you're out for the next
five races."

I'd like to add to this, your CC, car cheif, engine guy and anyone else
that has access to the engine are suspended for the rest of the year.
Yes that would include any of the boys (or girls) from the shop. And
your fined until you scream uncle.

That may harsh but the engine is one of those areas that you don't touch
what so ever.


  40.   CFob posted:
  04.25.2011 - 12:41 am
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"-"Spec" (per manufacturer) fuel-injected V-6 engines. You sign for two
engines from GM/Ford/Dodge/Toyota for each race weekend, they're sealed,
and the inspectors watch like a hawk for seal-breakage. Any evidence of
tampering with an engine, and you're out for the next five races. (Note
that this is Spec -by manufacturer-, not Spec -overall- like ASA did:
the engines would still be unique to each brand.)"

Why not just do a full out V-8 but use the Crate engine instead? They're
like $10,000-$15,000 a piece, but cheaper than the engines they have now.


  41.   RaceFanX posted:
  04.25.2011 - 12:48 pm
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ASA largely went downhill after they went to a spec engine though and
the series folded a few years later. Since it was a GM engine the Ford
teams became few and far between after that too.

We're not looking for IROC, if you can just find a way to get the BGN
guys some wins this series can still be saved.


  42.   Cooper posted:
  04.25.2011 - 1:05 pm
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RaceFanX simple. All drivers doing double duty start at rear. Good luck
starting 40th at Bristol.


  43.   00andJoe posted:
  04.25.2011 - 2:17 pm
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#41 - The ASA experience was why I said "spec-per-manufacturer", not
"spec-spec".


  44.   TLarson83 posted:
  04.25.2011 - 2:53 pm
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Uggh, it would be so much funner to see Stenhouse, Bayne, Dillon, Wise,
Almirola, etc.. battling for the win.


  45.   CFob posted:
  04.25.2011 - 4:39 pm
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"ASA largely went downhill after they went to a spec engine though and
the series folded a few years later. Since it was a GM engine the Ford
teams became few and far between after that too.

We're not looking for IROC, if you can just find a way to get the BGN
guys some wins this series can still be saved."

But the ASA Late Model Series (and now JEGS / CRA All-Star Tour) makes
solid use of the manufacturer produced crate engine program. At Toledo
this past weekend nearly 40 cars showed up, which is a lot of a series
of that level. All running GM, Ford and Chrysler crate motors.


  46.   Brad posted:
  04.25.2011 - 4:48 pm
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Does anyone find it ironic that Kevin Conway signed up to only receive
points in the Truck Series, but yet he hasn't raced in the Truck series
this year? I don't think he's even been on an entry list for a Truck
race. Just saying...


  47.   Smokefan05 posted:
  04.25.2011 - 9:50 pm
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^

It doesn't suprise me.


  48.   Jarrett88fan posted:
  04.25.2011 - 10:21 pm
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Who is surprised Kevin Conway selected the Truck Series (ironically, he
has made only one start in Trucks coming at Phoenix in '09) as his
points cache. Something is wrong with this picture... not only is Conway
a deadbeat bum, his sole purpose for being on the track is to market
Extenze.

I have more respect for Shane Hmiel(who is still cleaning up his act),
Aaron Fike and Tyler Walker combined than I do for the worst driver in
the history of Nascar.

Kevin Conway can f*** off!!! and never come back!!!!!!!!!!!


  49.   Smokefan05 posted:
  04.25.2011 - 11:41 pm
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^

yeah he is sueing Robby for not getting 27,000$ from winning of the
year. Plus he is getting sued by Robby and FRM for screw'em (no pun
intended) outta money.

Everyone thinks Mikey Waltrip for being the worst driver in NASCAR
history. Conman out does Mikey by a country mile.


  50.   Rusty posted:
  04.26.2011 - 11:01 am
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Entry List for Richmond out and there is NO Kyle Busch in the field.


  51.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
  04.26.2011 - 11:01 am
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"Everyone thinks Mikey Waltrip for being the worst driver in NASCAR
history. Conman out does Mikey by a country mile."

There is an interesting parallel between those two. Both seem way more
interested in being spokesmen than good drivers. For Mikey, I think he
realized he didn't have what it takes as a driver and needed to turn on
the charm if he wanted to stick around. I think Conman (love the
nickname) has realized this too. I think he cares about becoming a good
driver even less than Mikey. Mikey was never this bad. But the question
is this: If Conman, Heaven forbid, somehow got over 700 Cup starts and
many more in NWide like Mikey has, would he ever get better, or be like
Mikey, perpetually stuck in mediocrity? I hope we never get to find out.


  52.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
  04.26.2011 - 11:03 am
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@ post 31: Bingo!


  53.   Talon64 posted:
  04.26.2011 - 4:57 pm
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"That would be true, if it weren't for the fact that Carl is the current
Cup points leader and has outperformed Jimmie almost every week. And
were it not for Dale Jr last week, Jimmie would still be winless a
quarter of the way into a season."

Okay let's see if Carl can be in the same position after 8 races in the
Chase. Then you can gloat to your hearts' content.

BTW Cup guys winning every race is really killing my enthusiasm for
doing my stat rundowns for Nationwide.

Carl gets his 31st career NNS win, now tied with Jack Ingram for 4th all
time. He's one top 5 back of Mark Martin for 5th. The #60 is now 2nd in
the owners points, 8 behind the #20 while the #18 is 3rd, 11 points back.

Kyle Busch gets his 29th career runner-up finish, 2 back of Greg Biffle
for 3rd. He's the all time NNS leader in top 2 finishes with 76 in 210
career starts.

Brad Keselowski gets his 3rd straight top 5 finish. The #22's up to 9th
in the owners points, 6 points out of 6th.

Joey Logano won his 16th career pole, getting his 6th straight top 10
finish. He has yet to qualify outside of the top 10 this season.

Ricky Stenhouse Jr. gets his 6th top 5 in 47 career starts, 2nd this
season. After only having 8 top 10's in 32 starts last season he already
has 6 in 8 starts in 2011.

Trevor Bayne has finished 6th in 3 of the last 4 races. He has yet to
qualify worse than 9th in 2011, and qualified a season-best 2nd for
Nashville.

Austin Dillon gets his 2nd top 10 in 8 career Nationwide starts, his
first since finishing 4th in just his 2nd career start as an 18 year old
in 2008 at Memphis.

Reed Sorenson gets his 3rd straight top 10 finish, and 5th in 7
Nashville NNS starts.

Josh Wise gets his 4th top 10 in 54 career Nationwide starts. Wise has a
12.6 avg fin and 3 top 10's in 12 starts with JR Motorsports dating back
to last season.

Aric Almirola equals his top 10's in equal starts he had last season
with JRM (4 in 8 starts). But while he didn't finish worse than 8th last
season, he has yet to finish better than 9th in 2011.

"I'm a bit disappointed in Aric Almirola's season to date, yes he's very
much in the championship hunt but you would expect him to run in the top
5 more often with Cup regulars."

He's sucked compared to what I thought he'd be doing right now, but at
least the consistency's keeping him in it so when/if they turn it around
he'll still be in the picture. Unless JRM's putting more of their
support behind Danica's team even though she's only running 12 races
just to give her a better shot....


  54.   Anonymous posted:
  04.26.2011 - 11:23 pm
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"Everyone thinks Mikey Waltrip for being the worst driver in NASCAR
history. Conman out does Mikey by a country mile."

I agree. Although I think Michael Waltrip is pretty bad, he doesn't hold
a candle to Conman when it comes to sucking it up on the track. I can't
recall any other driver who was ever as flat-out slow as he is every
time he's on the track. It's like Jeff Gordon said about him, I don't
see what his motives are in NASCAR (other than promoting Extenze).


  55.   RCRandPenskeGuy posted:
  04.26.2011 - 11:30 pm
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Post #54 was mine, forgot to type in my username since I recently
deleted my browsing history, thus causing my computer to forget saving it.


  56.   AlmirolaFan88 posted:
  04.28.2011 - 3:47 pm
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Aric will get it together. Brad Keselowski didn't win until his 29th
start with JRM.


  57.   Paul posted:
  01.27.2017 - 1:34 pm
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Brian Ickler made some laps in the No. 60 car during the final practice
session.


  58.   TeamDCRfan posted:
  04.18.2019 - 10:03 pm
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Man, I'm still bummed that they don't run this race anymore.


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