|| *Comments on the 2011 Zippo 200 at the Glen:* View the most recent comment <#85> | Post a comment <#post> 1. potatosalad48 posted: 08.13.2011 - 5:28 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Kurt Busch wins while filling in for the injured Brad Keselowski, while Jimmie Johnson, in a one off for JR Motorsports, finishes 2nd. 2. Rusty posted: 08.13.2011 - 5:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Great job by Kurt filling in to get the win. He is now 3/3 for poles at Watkins Glen in the Nationwide Series and 2/3 for wins with his only miss being a 3rd. It was his first start since 2007 in the series. Jimmie Johnson finished 2nd making his first start in the series since 2008. 3. Frank posted: 08.13.2011 - 5:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Very good clean race! Hope also no fake caution tomorrow! 4. 00andJoe posted: 08.13.2011 - 5:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The Busch and Busch show! Chris Cook qualified the #75. 5. 00andJoe posted: 08.13.2011 - 5:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #01 sponsor: Biagi Bros. (was on the hood) #15 sponsor: FastWax #53 sponsor: Bollegraaf/Van Dyk Corporation #52 sponsor: couponchad.com/Sesame King 6. Frank posted: 08.13.2011 - 5:35 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Happy to see my man won. Especially with JJ second. Cheered for brother's 1-2 but Kyle appearently made a mistake that probably cost him a race. Please, don't start all that whines against buschwhakers. Road racing is too tough for most in this series and you should thank Cup drivers and ringers for bringing us quality show. Also note how patient and solid Trevor Bayne run and compare to Ricky Stenhouse who could be out of this race (maybe even on lap 1) if not f1-style paved traps which make me sad about the Glen - track records falling but this is cheap now. 7. DaleSrFanForever posted: 08.13.2011 - 5:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) See NASCAR, if you guys would just sit back and let the race play out naturally like you did in this one, it is more fun to watch. First of all, the race was over in less than 2 hours. I'm not opposed to long races, but there has to be lots of racing in it, not a lot of caution laps. Cautions break up the flow and they also lead to more cautions, which breaks up the flow even more. I want as much green racing as possible. This race had it. Second, it prevents the "welfare" system of NASCAR that disgusts most of us. Kyle Busch drove a great race, only making one mistake. That one mistake cost him as he had to come down pit road, throw off his fuel strategy, and it cost him the race. I'm tired of the first 80% of races not meaning much. In green races like this, every lap is important. 8. BLabonte47 posted: 08.13.2011 - 5:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Kurt and Kyle combined to lead every single lap. Every. single. lap. Lame. At least Kurt rarely runs these races so it isn't as lame as seeing Kyle or Carl win. 9. 00andJoe posted: 08.13.2011 - 5:40 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) BLabonte47: How is it "lame"? A dominant performance is just as much a part of racing as "lead change every lap" - even more so, in fact. I'd rather see a natural race where somebody leads every lap* than a dramatised pass-fest. *Restrictor plate fiascos at NHIS excluded. 10. Rusty posted: 08.13.2011 - 5:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yeah, the Busch brothers controlled this one. I felt Kurt was in great shape the whole way until that late caution. Thankfully Carl spun his tires so Kurt didn't get challenged much late. It wasn't a bad race, the entire field was spread out a little too much though for my liking. 11. 00andJoe posted: 08.13.2011 - 5:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) -Tim George Jr. ties his best career NNS finish. -First career NNS start for Casey Roderick and former CART driver Dan Clarke 12. Jon posted: 08.13.2011 - 6:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) thought this was the worst road race i had seen in nascar in a while, which sucks because they're my favorite. i don't understand what people have against more passing and a few extra cautions to spice it up. the final green white checkered at least didn't degenerate the finish into a destruction derby. the best part was the first dozen or so laps with kurt kyle and carl running real hard up front, and then the scramble into turn one in the final GWC. overall, a meh race i'd give it a 6 out of 10. hope the race tomorrow is a little better, but i'd rather watch a 6 out of 10 at the glen than any race at dover, loudon, kansas, etc. 13. Matt L posted: 08.13.2011 - 6:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) I guess I will be the one that bitches and complains since I never put on my blinders this morning. Really bad race. Busch, Busch, & Edwards destroyed the field. It was like two different classes of vehicles. The Jay Robinson cars count as a third class. I really don't give a crap what these Cup drivers can do. Why the hell should I thank them from running 40 seconds ahead of the Nationwide regulars? Who knows what kind of show the guys behind could have put on? Road America was fantastic without a single Cup driver. But the rag tag circus of Nationwide teams will move on & over the border next weekend with the goal of staying on the lead lap. 14. beau posted: 08.13.2011 - 6:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) entire top 6, yawn. at least it wasn't kyle or carl. 15. Rusty posted: 08.13.2011 - 6:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Notes from the race: -First time someone other than Marcos Ambrose won this race since Kevin Harvick won in 2007. Ambrose didn't even attempt the four peat at the Glen, however the word is they have a car ready for Montreal next week. -Kurt Busch wins at the Glen for the 2nd time, his other being in 2006 also from the pole. He joins Terry Labonte, Ron Fellows and Marcos Ambrose as drivers to win multiple Nationwide races at the Glen. He joins Terry Labonte as the only drivers to win multiple races at the Glen from the pole as Labonte did it in 1991 and 1995 and Busch has done it in 2006 and 2011. -Jimmie Johnson's 2nd place finish is his best career Nationwide Series finish outside of his 2001 win at Chicagoland. His 2nd place finish ties Ron Fellows' earlier run at Road America for the best finish for JR Motorsport's #7 team of the season. The team has 6 top 5s this year (2 by Kasey Kahne, 1 by Fellows, 1 by Johnson, 1 by Josh Wise and 1 by Danica Patrick). A significant improvement as the #7 team failed to record one single top five all of last year. -Kyle Busch led the most laps but failed to pick up a Watkins Glen win once again. He has led laps and finished in the top 5 in each of the last four Nationwide Series races at the Glen but has no wins to show for. Watkins Glen is one of the few tracks that Kyle Busch has not won on in the Nationwide Series. The others are Road America (He has not raced there though), Montreal, and Atlanta. He does have Cup wins at the Glen and Atlanta however. 16. 18fan posted: 08.13.2011 - 7:05 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I enjoyed this race mainly because neither of the Busch brothers could really build a gap over anybody else, but those two and Edwards were clearly the class of the field. A 1-2 finish for Cup champions in a one-off for each and the second former Cup champion to win in a one-off this year(Matt Kenseth at Charlotte). 17. potatosalad48 posted: 08.13.2011 - 7:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) In another note, road racer Tomy Drissi drove the #75 for Rick Ware Racing after crashing his #41 in qualifying. 18. 00andJoe posted: 08.13.2011 - 8:28 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) "i don't understand what people have against more passing and a few extra cautions to spice it up." Should the NFL tell a team's defense to take it easy against the other team's offence in order to keep the score close? Should the umpire in a baseball game tell the pitcher to throw some high, hanging curveballs because the fans want more home runs? Or should Dwight Howard be given a clear lane to the basket by the D because slam dunks are cool? If any of the above happened, you'd never hear the end of it, because it's not honest competition - it's manipulation of the results. But apparently some people think that in racing, extra cautions in for "Pierre deBris" is just fine "because it gives a better show". Gag. 19. CBASS posted: 08.13.2011 - 9:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ^Matt, Marcus is running the #9 for RPM with sponsorship from Stanley at Montreal. Hoping he finally pulls it off :) Sponsors (from the team's Facebooks and photos) #51 Racing For A Cause #01 Biagi Bros./ Smith Transport #15 FastWax #53 Van Dyk Baler Corp/ Bollegraaf #52 CouponChad.com/ OperationHolidayHope.com 20. CBASS posted: 08.13.2011 - 9:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Nevermind, just found another pic of the #52, they removed the OperationHolidayHope.com logos for the race 21. 00andJoe posted: 08.13.2011 - 9:57 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) The #52 still has the Sesame King sponsorship as well as couponchad (see post #5). And thanks for figuring out what was on the side of the #01, I never could tell... (Now to figure out what's on the quarter panels of the #37 Cup car...) 22. 00andJoe posted: 08.13.2011 - 10:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) First caution: #14 stalled turn 4 Second caution: #39,14 accident Inner Loop 23. Ch posted: 08.13.2011 - 11:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The 15 had FW1 on the hood of the car and fast wax on the sides. The 67 had something on the hood which did not look like the team logo, couldn't make it out. The 75 ran its first, and according to the team, and only full race of the year. The 37 cup car has Green Stuff Absorbant on the car. 24. irony posted: 08.13.2011 - 11:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) I'm grateful to NASCAR for letting the race play out. Especially on a road course. They generally have no clue how to officiate a road course event, but they did it right today. A great job by all the drivers also. A real race at a real race track. Good debut for Casey Roderick, who is an oval racer, although he caused the last yellow. 25. 00andJoe posted: 08.13.2011 - 11:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ch- Green Stuff is on the hood of the #37 Cup car. On the quarter panels is "(something) Parts Plus". FW1 is the same as FastWax. 26. RCRandPenskeGuy posted: 08.14.2011 - 12:15 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Today marks only the second time I've EVER pulled for Kurt Busch to win, I think. The other time was last summer at Loudon in the Cup race. When it became apparent that a Nationwide regular would not win, I was hoping for Kurt since Kyle and Carl already have their fair share of wins this year. Jimmie Johnson makes his first Nationwide start since 2008, and almost makes it count despite not being near the lead for much of the race. Sad but true fact: I think the days of road racers dominating these races may be numbered. The NASCAR regulars have slowly but surely gotten to their level when it comes to these tracks. I always thought it was cool when a road racer would only run road courses and be in contention for the win. 27. 18fan posted: 08.14.2011 - 1:13 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Fellows was competitive but his car didn't seem right at the beginning and lost track position at the end. But it true that the NASCAR regulars have really improved at road courses. 28. AlmirolaFan88 posted: 08.14.2011 - 2:18 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Cup drivers sweeping the top 6 spots isn't surprising considering this is the only road course companion race with the Cup series. It will also be the cleanest road course race of the 3 the Nationwide Series will run. Watkins Glen is more of a cookie cutter road course, if that makes any sense. Next week at Circuit Gilles Villineuve will offer alot more parity among the leaders, but could also provide some chaos in the final laps like Road America. Can't wait to see Robby Gordon and Marcos Ambrose in their one off starts. Other notes from this race that haven't been already stated: James Buescher and Jason Leffler are at it again, Buescher was apparently upset of how crowded he was racing with Leffler in the final few turns on the last lap. He tried to dive bomb Leffler in the final turn, but took him and himself out. ESPN couldn't track down Leffler for his side of the story, but I'm sure he was heated. I can't believe this rivalry would re-emerge as teammates. Joe Nemechek finishes 11th. Great for him considering he was headed for an 11th place finish when he was taken out by J.R Fitzpatrick on the last lap of the 2009 race. He only has 2 Top 10's this season, but he's had plenty of good runs this season with little to no sponsorship. Aric Almirola is the highest finishing full time Nationwide driver in 8th place. It's his first career road course Top 10. Trevor Bayne picked up his 3rd road course Top 10, he now has one at each road course. Maybe Ricky can ask him for some advice? lol. Kurt Busch joins Dale Earnhardt Jr. Tony Stewart & Matt Kenseth as winners in their Nationwide COT debut. 29. Kyle Busch is Worse Than Skeletor posted: 08.14.2011 - 6:07 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Very boring race. Won by a Buschwhacker, making it pointless. Hope Kurt's proud of himself. A Sprint Cup driver, a former CHAMP no less, winning a NWS race is like Barry Bonds playing against a little league baseball team and then acting like he won something. Boo. 30. NicoRosbergFan posted: 08.14.2011 - 7:37 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Is road racing even a skill anymore? 31. cjs3872 posted: 08.14.2011 - 9:12 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) While the race was about as strung out as I've any race in years, I found the duel between the Busch brothers and Carl Edwards, especially early i nthe race, a very fascinating one, with some pretty darn good racing, even though there wasn't very much passing among those three. But while Kyle Busch was faster, he was also much more unsteady, and that ended up costing him, as he went into the grass in the inner loop, which cost him an early pit stop, which eventually cost him the race. On the other hand, Kurt Busch was steady as a rock, not making any mistakes, and that, in the end, was what won him the race. Edwards was there, running third, but not really a match for either Busch brother, though on the restart after the first caution, he nearly wrecked Kurt, and backed off to gim the elder Busch a chance to save his car. Had Busch would up spinnng there (in the "S's"), a lot of cars may have been involved in the crash that would have ensued. The race for fourth was interesting as well, between Ron Fellows, who's car just didn't have any speed, Joey Logano (who finished third), Paul Menard, and eventually Jimmie Johnson. Trevor Bayne, who finished ninth, and was best in class, drove his typically conservative and methodical race, staying out of trouble, which served him well. Overconservative driving on the restarts prevented him from running and finishing hihger, but his game plan, which I have criticized often, was the correct one for this race, and if he plays it the same way at Montral, may be even more beneficial. Hopefully, his teammate Ricky Stenhouse could learn from Bayne that someday, as he was all over the place, from the first lap, practically to the finish, ending up one lap behind in 15th, but he didn't lose much ground in the point standings, as his closest pursuer, Reed Sorenson also finished one lap behind, in 13th place, while Elliott Sadler was the only one of the three battling for the championship that finihsed on the lead lap, but effectively was the last car on the lead lap, finishing in tenth place. (Joe Nemechek did finish on the lead lap, but since he got the free pass on the caution that led to the GWC restart, he had to start at the end of the line, so he could not improve on his 11th position.) Stenhouse also admitted after the race that he just can't seem to drive conservatively. That fault in him may well cost him this championship. And by the way, since someone else mentioned the conflict between the Turner Motorsports cars, why did Justin Allgaier make such a bold move on Bayne and Elliott Sadler on that final restart, instead of allowing Bayne and Sadler, who were a lap ahead of them, to battle with the other lead lap cars for a higher position. After all, Allgaier had nothing to gain from that move. He was 12th, one lap behind and remained so. The only thing I could imagine was that he may have been trying to wreck Bayne to bring out another caution, since he (Allgaier) was in the free pass position, because he would have had no other reason to race the lead lap cars so aggressively. 32. Anonymous posted: 08.14.2011 - 9:34 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) The only nns races I watch anymore are RP tracks and roadcourses. please don't make me lose the latter 33. Bronco posted: 08.14.2011 - 10:18 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kurt gets his first win since Watkins Glen 2006, JJ gets his first top 5 since Fontana in Sept 2007. Back then it was still called the Busch series. Aric Almirola gets his 5th straight top 10, hope he wins soon. I will be going to Montreal next week for what may be the final Nationwide event to be held there. Marcos Ambrose will be making his 5th attempt at winning that race in a one off ride provided by his Cup team. Montreal and Elkhart Lake are by far the two best races of the season that are not RP races. 34. DaleSrFanForever posted: 08.14.2011 - 10:24 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "*Restrictor plate fiascos at NHIS excluded." I thought we all agreed to pretend that race never happened :) "I'm grateful to NASCAR for letting the race play out. Especially on a road course. They generally have no clue how to officiate a road course event" Quoted for the truth. "I think the days of road racers dominating these races may be numbered. The NASCAR regulars have slowly but surely gotten to their level when it comes to these tracks." Except Kenseth. But you are right. Their best chance is the stand alone NWide races since the Cup guys' presence seems to be waning big time. But even there, the NWide regulars are pretty good at it. 35. cjs3872 posted: 08.14.2011 - 11:48 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Road course specialists dominating in the road course events? If whoever first mentioned that was referring to Cup races, what races have you been watching? A true road course "ringer" hasn't won a Cup race on a road course since Mark Donohue won the season opening race at Riverside way back in 1973, nearly 40 years ago for Roger Penske's first NASCAR victory. And by that time, Donohue had already raced in the Daytona 500 (in 1972), and had raced in the Indianapolis 500 four times, and in fact, was the REIGNING Indianapolis 500 CHAMPION, as well as having won the first Pocono 500 in 1971, so even Donohue was somewhat successful on oval tracks. Prior to Donohue, the most previous road course specialist to win a road course race was Dan Gurney, who last won at Riverside in 1968. Sure road race specialists have been factors in races, simply because of their overwhelming experience over the Cup drivers, but that is more than offset by the quality of the Cup teams they're racing against, as well as the lack of experience the road race specialists have in stock cars. Since there aren't as many Nationwide drivers and teams of that quality, the advantage the road race specialists have is not offset, so they do tend to dominate the road course races as a result. Even Scott Pruett, the most successful American road race driver in the last 25 years, was not competitve in the one year he ran full-time in Cup on road courses for that reason, his team was just not competitve. Now with the influx of foreign drivers that built their resume on road courses, like Juan Montoya, Marcos Ambrose, and Nelson Piquet, Jr., among others, that have entered the NASCAR ranks, may change that, but even Ambrose has yet to win in the top series, though I think that changes today in a big way, if nothing happens, or if the weather doesn't intervene, which it very well might. 36. 1995z71 posted: 08.14.2011 - 12:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) One of the most boring road course races Ive ever seen, END OF STORY. 37. Rusty posted: 08.14.2011 - 12:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Very boring race. Won by a Buschwhacker, making it pointless. Hope Kurt's proud of himself. A Sprint Cup driver, a former CHAMP no less, winning a NWS race is like Barry Bonds playing against a little league baseball team and then acting like he won something. Boo." It isn't like Kurt is out there trying to feed his ego or something by running Nationwide races, this is his first start since 2007 and was personally asked to fill in by his teammate. The real issue in this series isn't Cup drivers, it is the Cup drivers who run about every single race. Kyle and Carl are the main culprits and you have guys like Harvick, Logano and Brad as problems too. Guys like Dale Jr. and Stewart run a couple a year for fun or various reasons, that is what Cup drivers should be doing. Guys like Kurt Busch and Jimmie Johnson run even less than that. 38. RCRandPenskeGuy posted: 08.14.2011 - 1:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Road course specialists dominating in the road course events? If whoever first mentioned that was referring to Cup races, what races have you been watching?" I was referring to any NASCAR series in general. There may not have been many road ringer wins in NASCAR history, but you could always at the least count on them running in the top 5 or leading laps. We haven't seen a whole lot of this recently, as Reed Sorenson won Road America earlier this year, and Ambrose wasn't close to being the same factor in this year's Sonoma race that he was in 2010 (and Montoya certainly didn't drive like a road course expert this year at Sonoma, his bad finish in that race was his own fault). He or Montoya could have a good race at the Glen today, but only time will tell. Stenhouse is lucky that he didn't lose the points lead after the bad race he had. If he can get through Montreal without any significant trouble, I think he will have an excellent shot at winning the championship. I don't see Sorenson or Sadler winning it otherwise due to their extreme conservativeness. Unlike those two, Ricky gets up front and leads laps. 39. RCRandPenskeGuy posted: 08.14.2011 - 1:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Also, as much as it pains me to say, Carl probably would have won Montreal last year if he hadn't had his problems toward the end of that race. I meant to mention this, but didn't type it in my post. 40. 18fan posted: 08.14.2011 - 1:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Another thing that might contribute to the decline of the road ringer effectiveness is that the road ringers have really helped teach the NASCAR regulars how to become better road racers. 41. Jon posted: 08.14.2011 - 1:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) post #18 i'm sick and tired of people making horrible comparisons to sports that have NOTHING to do with racing and thinking they're making a good analogy, because you're not. racing is NOT a stick and ball sport and trying to make some convoluted effort to compare the two is ridiculous and just proves the intelligence level of many nascar fans is apparently minimal. don't enforce that belief by... well, by being that dumb. 42. Jon posted: 08.14.2011 - 1:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) and everyone saying "glad they let them play it out" apparently doesn't even understand why cautions get thrown. no car at any point until the final caution was stalled or in a part of the track that a caution would be forced to throw. there was nothing to force them to "throw mystery cautions." do they sometimes throw a caution that makes you scratch your head? yep. but then at the end of a race when the golden child of nascar is leading and there's a wreck in turn 1, and they DON'T THROW THE CAUTION, everyone is up in arms. MAKE UP YOUR MINDS. nascar doesn't have any interest in making people think they fix races or at least intentionally make inconsistent decisions. i'll agree it would be nice if they were more consistent with their cautions and i also wish they could learn how to properly throw local cautions in these races. but they don't. i'm NOT suggesting they throw mystery cautions. but if you watched the road america race, they ran long green runs until the end. finally drivers got antsy and the cautions came a plenty. on ovals, i hate the one car spin cautions that are unnecessary, but on a road course, sometimes THEY ARE necessary. a majority of the road america one car spins late in the race resulted in a car being stuck in the kitty litter. in the interest of safety you pretty much have to throw a caution, you can't pull a car out just off the track with cars at speed. today, there were plenty of examples that they do know the difference there but they still haven't implemented local cautions which would cure some of these problems (but not solve pulling cars out of the litter). all i'm suggesting is the race would have been more fun if they had had some random cautions during the race, not throwing them just "because" but maybe if... i dunno, someone wrecked? that'd at least give us a restart, mix up the strategy, and keep more cars on the lead lap. oh no, i touched another taboo topic! we'd hate to have more cars on the lead lap, as it seems everyone on here has some weird thing against the lucky dog/wave around rule which to me are a few of the good rules they have created in recent years. nothing pissed me off more than seeing the leader have to fight through 15 lapped cars just to get to the front, and it confused the casual viewer greatly. 43. Anonymous posted: 08.14.2011 - 2:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) need a tissue 42 44. KBM18 posted: 08.14.2011 - 4:16 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "The real issue in this series isn't Cup drivers, it is the Cup drivers who run about every single race. Kyle and Carl are the main culprits and you have guys like Harvick, Logano and Brad as problems too." Couldn't help but notice you list Kyle Busch as one of the "main culprits", and then put Keselowski on a the level with more part-time drivers like Harvick and Logano. Just for a refresher, here are the number of starts for Busch and Keselowski since Keselowski has been a full time Cup driver: 2010: Busch - 29 starts Keselowski - 35 starts 2011: Busch - 16 starts Keselowski - 20 starts Just thought you might like to know Keselowski has made 10 more starts than Busch, even though Busch is apparently the one doing more damage to the series. I guess when you far more often, people tend to forget the facts. 45. cjs3872 posted: 08.14.2011 - 4:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) OK, RCRandPenskeGuy, so you were referring to all the NASCAR series in general, because I wasn't sure if you were referring to the Cup series, or all major NASCAR series when it came to road courses. As for your point about Montoya's bad finish being caused by his "bull in a china shop" run. He's been doing that at all styles of tracks for years now, so what surprise is there in that? He ran Kasey Kahne into the wall last week at Pocono just like he ran Kyle Busch off the track at Sonoma earlier this year, or his wncounters with Ryan Newman at richmond, or Jimmie Johnson at Darlington, or the encounters he has had with Jeff Gordon and Tony Stewart in recent seasons. So Montoya's failures shoyuld not surprise anyone, and why Ganassi continues have him as one of his drivers continues to boggle me, considering all the cars he has torn up. As for your comment about Ricky Stenhouse being lucky not to lose more ground, he is, but it's not because of the conservative driving of Sadler and Sorenson that he's leading the points right now, but rather his superior equipment. Remember that Sorenson has been jerked around between the #32 and the #30 cars of Turner Motorsports, so that has cost him some in the title race, and Sadler and Kevin Harvick, his car owner, has adapted a conservative strategy based on the points system. Remember that, if he not gotten ill, Trevor Bayne would be in the points battle, and he seems to be far more conservative than either Sadler or Sorenson are, which again, played in his favor at Watkins Glen. At least Sadler and Sorenson have led laps this year, especially Sadler, who led significant chunks of the races at Darlington and Chicago, the latter of which he might have won if not for a flat tire. Except for pit strategy at Loudon, Bayne has not led at all this year, except for the first two plate races, so if there is someone who should be criticized for being too conservative, especially given his equipment and team, it would be Bayne, not Sadler or Sorenson, and that may eventually cost him his ride at Roush, especially if they have to downsize at year's end. And I still think Sadler or Sorenson could win the title this year, because Stenhouse, due to how aggressive he is on the track, could very easily lose the title. 46. 00andJoe posted: 08.14.2011 - 4:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #37: Totally agree. Even Brad isn't much of a problem - he's running out the contract he signed when he wasn't sure he'd have a Cup ride. If he ran a full season next year though I'd class him in with Carl and Kyle. I still think, though, that the whole problem would be solved by ditching the points-in-one-series rule (which I call the "let's screw Trevor Bayne, Landon Cassill and Travis Kvapil Rule") and instead instated a rule that says drivers in the top 35 in Cup points who are entered in a Cup race cannot compete in any other NASCAR-sanctioned races in that weekend, unless they are a Cup rookie or replacing a driver injured during a race weekend. 47. Rusty posted: 08.14.2011 - 5:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm not saying Brad is a big issue, I totally know and understand why he was supposed to run full time this year. The word is Brad and Kligerman will split the #22 next year while Hornish will drive the #12 full time if sponsorship allows. I still would expect 16-20 races for Brad next year which is too much IMO. I think Penske should let Brad and Kurt split most of the companion races so neither runs too many races, but I doubt it. I think a good rule to implement for NASCAR would this: When a driver chooses which series he is points eligible for when the season begins, the drivers are not allowed to qualify for top 35/30 rules for qualyifing. So all Cup guys would have to qualify on time for every Nationwide and Truck race. Kyle Busch would've DNQ'd at Kentucky with this rule. It may make teams second guess using Cup drivers so much since they could be one qualyifing mistake away from being sent home. 48. cjs3872 posted: 08.14.2011 - 6:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Why not just limit the number of races a current full-time Cup driver with more than three full years of experience (or 100 Cup starts) can run in a lower series to about 10-12, with the exception of replacing an injured driver, as was the case with Kurt Busch at Watkins Glen, replacing Brad Keselowski due to Keselowski's injuries from his testing crash at Road Atlanta. Now, drivers with fewer than three full years of Cup experience should be allowed to run as many Nationwide or Truck races as they wish to, because of the added experience that would give them. For example, if Trevor Bayne, Ricky Stenhouse, or Justin Allgaier were to get a full-time Cup ride, they would still be eligible to run up to a full schedule in the Nationwide Series if they so desire, since neither has run a full Cup schedule, much less three years in order to gain experience (Allgaier, in fact, has yet to run even one Cup race and Stenhouse only has one Cup start), while current Cup-inactives like Reed Sorenson, Elliott Sadler, and Sam Hornish, Jr. would be limited to that 10-12 races in a lower series, should they get a full-time Cup ride again. (Sorenson ran five full years in Cup for 161 starts, while Sadler currenty has 449 starts and 12 full seasons in Cup, while Hornish has also run three full Cup seasons.) That should give younger drivers more chances to gain experience, as well as opportunites to run up front in a lower series more often. For example, just look at what Michael McDowell has done in the #18 NNS car in his limited attempts, as he has proven more than competent. Though the fact that he struggle so mightily in Michael Waltrip's car proves two things. One, he was rushed too soon, and two, it shows how bad that team really is, if their performance in Cup this year hasn't proved that already. Another way to make it harder to the current full-time Cup drivers with at least three full years (or 100 Cup starts) is to make the car that they are in automatically non-exempt, with no championship provisional available, if he is a past NNS or Truck champion. Now that should not make other car exempt, but instead, if NASCAR were to adapt such a rule, it should just take however many cars that would be, and subtract that many from the exempt list for the race. Though for some companion race, that would mean that as few as 15-20 cars would be exempt from having to qualify on time, which is alright with me. 49. potatosalad48 posted: 08.14.2011 - 6:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The strange pit-road at the Glen nearly cost some teams, as the #7, #38 and the #01 all had the gas can stick in the car and brought penalties to all 3 cars. 50. 00andJoe posted: 08.14.2011 - 6:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Rusty - That plan could work, although it still keeps the "Choose-A-Series" rule in place, which I dislike. Perhaps if it was changed to "choose Cup/All Other Series"... cjs - That could also work, although it's rather more complicated and it has a problem, what if a Cup driver loses his ride, is he then eligible to run more races in a lower series? What if he's running a S&P team in Cup and a full-time Busch ride (i.e. Joe Nemechek)? 51. Rusty posted: 08.14.2011 - 7:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I don't like the Choose-A-Series rule either, but if NASCAR is going to keep it that way I think that would be a good add to the rule. If you choose the Cup Series as your main series, you should have to race your way in with other series. NASCAR probably won't do it because they are afraid of big name sponsors not being present (the whole reason they made the awful top 35 rule). Speaking of the top 35 rule, I think it is time that rule is adjusted. It needs to be taken down to at least the top 30. Because of the economy the series is so watered down that teams 33rd in points really shouldn't be locked in. 52. myothercarisanM535i posted: 08.14.2011 - 7:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Changing the way qualifying is run would also be a way to eliminate the top-35 rule. Instead of each car getting two single laps, have it run as a timed session with multiple cars on track at once. Split the field in two by practice speed (faster half and slower half) and give each group 20 minutes on the track. You can run as many laps as you like and make as many adjustments as you like. If there was no top-35 rule and the current system was used, a driver going out and making a run at the pole might push a little too hard a wreck, missing the field. This doesn't bother me personally, but it's something NASCAR doesn't like. With a timed session, drivers are able to run a more conservative lap to secure their spot in the field and THEN make a run for the pole, knowing that if they wreck, they'll still be in the field. If you don't make the race this way, well then you don't deserve to be there on raceday. 53. 00andJoe posted: 08.14.2011 - 7:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That's another good point: the top-35 rule really hasn't achieved its purpose at all. As I recall, things were changed from "provisionals, to give the high-ranking teams in points a few mulligans" to "top 35, to make it easier for teams to sign sponsors by guaranteeing a spot in the race". Since even Carl Edwards, Tony Stewart and Jeff Gordon (of all people!) can arrange a full-season sponsorship with a company, clearly teams lower in the standings will have things still harder, top 35 or no top 35. If we're keeping the Chase (which is a whole 'nother can of worms), let's change it to the top -12- being locked in, and everybody else has to move it or lose it. (We might keep the past champion's provisional around just to be sure the previous season's champion is always in, but that's it...) 54. Rusty posted: 08.14.2011 - 7:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I personally liked the provisional system. We never saw top drivers miss races under that, and it didn't lock crappy teams who just run laps into the field. The rule was made because Scott Wimmer and Scott Riggs both missed the fall Atlanta race in 2004 and Caterpillar and Valvoline were unhappy. But it turns out that Valvoline ended up being screwed by that top 35 rule as Scott Riggs missed the Daytona 500 the following year in a brand new Evernham Motorsports team with Valvoline sponsoring. The top 35 needs to be abolished, but if they are going to keep it, at least cut the number down. The #32, #7, #71 teams, etc. don't deserve to be locked in. It isn't like those teams bring sponsors that NASCAR needs to the table anyways. 55. DaleSrFanForever posted: 08.14.2011 - 9:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "The real issue in this series isn't Cup drivers, it is the Cup drivers who run about every single race." I agree, especially the experienced ones. After your first year in Cup, there is no need for it. As I have said, I have no problem with drivers running 15 races or less. But more than that is just weak. Trust me, us fans of Brad are not thrilled about his heavy NWide involvement. At all. We sort of understand the circumstances behind which he signed that 2 year deal. But whenever it was announced JV would take over for the stand alone road courses, we were happy and hoping he would cut back even more, especially now that he is gaining serious momentum in Cup, and has a great opportunity to take advantage of the Jamie Mac Rule. Unfortunately he has cut back further, but it is because he got hurt. But at the same time, NASCAR needs to schedule more stand alone NWide races. Without points to chase, that is keeping a lot of Cuppers at bay. It will hurt them money wise in the short term, but will show long term gains in both Series as new talent is developed. That is one of about a million reasons why the move from IRP to IMS next year is a horrible decision. 56. irony posted: 08.14.2011 - 10:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If you let Cup drivers run 10-15 races, they'll still be too many Cup drivers in each race, and Cup drivers will still win 99% of the companion races. Also, if a Cup rookie needs to run NW, then they aren't ready for Cup and shouldn't be there. Every other racing series is able to make their ladder series work without the star drivers. 57. cjs3872 posted: 08.14.2011 - 10:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 00andJoe, the Joe Nemechek situation is an interesting one, since he start-and-parks in the Cup series to finaince his Nationwide program. But since Nemechek doesn't actively run in the Cup races, I'd let that one slide. Now, that rule I mentioned would be for drivers ACTIVELY competing in the Cup Series, so if a driver from the Cup series is released, the lower series start limit would no longer apply until he is actively competing in the Cup series again. Now, as for the top 35 rule. I've never been a big fan of it, especially because of how it's watered down the importance of the qualifying race or the Daytona 500. I've always thought that what they should do there is go back to the way they used to do it for the top 40 spots, which would be to qualify the front row, take the top 14 cars from each qualifying race, other than the front row starters, and then the next 10 fastest speeds. Then after that, any top 35 car not already in the Daytona 500 would line up, starting from the 41st position, until all exempt cars are in the line-up, and then if there's a past series champion not in the field, add him. Yes, the field might be more than 43 cars, but they used to start 50 for that race, so I don't think that should be a problem. Actually, they should either scale the number of exempt cars back to 25, or go back to the old provisional system. The whole situation with Scott Riggs and Scott Wimmer in Atlanta that brought on the top-35 rule was actually caused when teams with cars in the Chase in 2004 brought extra cars to protect their Chase entries, and those extra cars knocked Wimmer and Riggs out of that race. But you can't go with strictly a "go or go home" policy for every car, and the prime example would be the 2003 Coca-Cola 600. Jimmie Johnson's engine blew on the warm-up lap on his qualifying run, meaning that he never got to make a qualifying run. That resulted in him starting 37th, and he won the race, so that idea would never work. As for those wanting to see multi-car qualifying like you would see on road courses, I don't think that idea would fly either, because you would see a driver run a fast lap, then intentionally prevent another driver from having a chance to top that mark, even blocking him to acheive that aim, so that idea would never work. In fact, Jimmie Johnson may have done just that this week at Watkins Glen to prevent Kevin Harvick from acheiveing a faster practice time. Actually, if you wanted to see more racing, and make it so that everyone gets a chance to race, have single-car qualifying on Friday, then, after the support race, whether it's Nationwide, Trucks, or ARCA, run twin qualifying races like you see at Daytona, the results of which would set the field, except for the front row drivers, of course. That, in my mind, will accomplish two things. First, it will give the teams a better chance to see where they stack up against each other. Secondly, it may stop drivers from running the support races, since quite a number of them do so, mainly to get an advantage on those that don't, since the drivers that run the support races, will know what the track and the tires are going to do, as well as finding out what the handling of the car is going to do over a run before those that don't run the support races do. To me, that's the biggest reason you see so many Cup drivers in, especially the Nationwide Series race, when it is partnered with the Cup race. I think that is one way to get rid of so many double-duty drivers is to take away the advantage that running both races give them over those that don't run both races. 58. cjs3872 posted: 08.14.2011 - 10:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Irony, I said that a current full-time cup driver with at least three years, or 100 starts, should be allowed a maximum of 10-12 races, but that's just one-third of the season, maximum. And I also stated that a driver in Cup with less than that amount of CUP experience should be given the OPTION of running as many lower series races as he wants, to gain that experience quicker. Some drivers, like Jeff Gordon and Jimmie Johnson, most notably, have declined to even do that, but other drivers abuse that the other way around. For example with Roush, he has four Cup drivers. If he wanted to go for the owner's championship, he could split the season, having each of his four drivers run nine races each, while having guys like Ricky Stenhouse, Jr. and Trevor Bayne in full-time cars. Or if Joe Gibbs wanted to do the same thing with his three Cup drivers splitting time in one of his cars for the entire season, but none of them having a dominant role, while having a guy like Brian Scott, Michael McDowell, or Drew Herring having full-time rides in his other cars, I have no problem with that. I just don't like the idea of having any single veteran Cup driver running the full circuit, taking away the chance for younger drivers to develop, or not allowing veterans who have fallen on hard times a chance to redeem themselves. That's what is so great about the Nationwide title fight. You've got a developmental driver in Ricky Stenhouse, Jr., in a Roush car, battling two veteran drivers in Elliott Sadler and Reed Sorenson who have fallen on hard times and are trying to get back into Cup. Sadler, a 13-year veteran who's trying to take KHI back to the top, where Harvick himself put the team a few years back, while Sorenson is trying to win the title with an unproven team. Now, the Penske situation is a slightly different one, as Penske started a Nationwide team, not for driver development, but to develop personnel in other parts of his organization, such as members of his pit crew, mechanics, and crew chiefs. He really wasn't going after driver development. So Cup teams run the Nationwide Series for different reasons. 59. Spen posted: 08.14.2011 - 11:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "But at the same time, NASCAR needs to schedule more stand alone NWide races." I'd love to see it, but it ain't gonna happen. As Nashville SS's attendence shows, stand-alone races simply cannot draw a crowd. No one wants to see a race with no established Cup drivers. (Yes, we do, but we're the minority.) Yeah, Iowa does good, and they'll probably get a cup date within the next five years. By that point, I expect Road America to be replaced with a compainion race at Sears Point. And then there will be no stand-alone races in either series. 60. myothercarisanM535i posted: 08.14.2011 - 11:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "As for those wanting to see multi-car qualifying like you would see on road courses, I don't think that idea would fly either, because you would see a driver run a fast lap, then intentionally prevent another driver from having a chance to top that mark, even blocking him to acheive that aim, so that idea would never work. In fact, Jimmie Johnson may have done just that this week at Watkins Glen to prevent Kevin Harvick from acheiveing a faster practice time. " Is NASCAR really that much of a toothless tiger? 61. 00andJoe posted: 08.15.2011 - 1:35 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Another thing NASCAR should do is change the schedule so that Happy Hour is once again -after- the support race, instead of before. That would cut down on the number of teams using the support race as an extra practice session, and also make things a little more even by not giving double-duty drivers practice time on the track the morning of the support race event. 62. DaleSrFanForever posted: 08.15.2011 - 9:21 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Excellent point irony. I have a plan for that that I detailed in the first Gateway race page last year (aka the "Carl Is Definitely A Phony Psychopath Race"). "As Nashville SS's attendence shows, stand-alone races simply cannot draw a crowd." That is true. Like I said, this will definitely cause a short term dip in revenue (which is why it will never happen), but in the long term it would allow new talent to develop and get us excited about rookie classes for the first time since '06 and would prevent the stagnation of talent in Cup. 63. Matt L posted: 08.15.2011 - 1:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "As Nashville SS's attendence shows, stand-alone races simply cannot draw a crowd." Huh? Iowa? IRP? Montreal? You have to promote a race for people to show up. 64. Anonymous posted: 08.15.2011 - 1:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think Kurt called his crew chief "Tom Gordon" instead of Todd Gordon at least twice in his post-race TV interview. 65. Talon64 posted: 08.15.2011 - 4:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kurt Busch picked up his 3rd career Nationwide series win, the last two coming from pole at Watkins Glen (2006 and 2011). It's the 3rd win for the #22 Penske team this season, all coming in the last 6 races. In his first start since 2008 Jimmie Johnson got just his 9th top 5 in 92 career Nationwide starts, his best finish since his 2001 Chicagoland win (1st career runner-up finish) and 1st top 5 since finishing 4th at Fontana in 2007. After only having 6 top 10's all of last season, the #7 team has 6 top 5's in 2011. Joey Logano got just his 6th top 5 in 14 NNS starts this season but his 2nd straight top 3 finish at Watkins Glen. In his first Nationwide start in 4 races, Kyle Busch extends his personal top 5 streak to 10 races. Carl Edwards picked up his 4th straight top 5 finish after having an average finish of 18.7 in the previous 3 races. Paul Menard finishes outside of the top 5 for the first time in 4 NNS starts this season, but his 6th place finish gives him an average finish of 3.8 in those starts. Ron Fellows and Elliott Sadler are the only 2 drivers to finish in the top 10 in the first 2 road course races of the season. Aric Almirola was the highest finishing full time NNS-only driver in 8th, putting an end to his 4 race top 5 streak but extending his top 10 streak to 5 races. After only 10 top 10's in his first 39 career NNS starts, Almirola has 13 in 23 races this season. Trevor Bayne got just his 2nd top 10 in the last 8 races (18.5 avg fin). After going 3 straight races without a top 10, Elliott Sadler finishes in the top 10 for a 2nd straight race. 66. Talon64 posted: 08.15.2011 - 4:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) For the 2nd time this season Carl Edwards is scheduled to be the only full time Cup driver (not counting Michael McDowell who just S&P's in the #66 Cup car) to be running a Nationwide race, this weekend at Montreal. Last time he was scheduled to do it, he abandoned running at Road America to focus on his Cup car at Infineon and it payed off with a 3rd place finish. This weekend he'll be going back and forth between Michigan and Montreal, taking time away from his car at probably his best track in Cup where he could really use a win to get some bonus points and especially some momentum heading into the Chase. I really hope that sometime this week or sometime this weekend Carl and Roush will do the same as Road America and forget about Carl running the NNS race. It makes no sense for him to do it. It makes much more sense for McDowell since he's only a Cup S&P driver, and he'll probably do what he did for Infineon/Road America and skip all Cup practice and qualifying to focus on the NNS race where he'll have a chance to win. So no double standard there IMO. 67. myothercarisanM535i posted: 08.15.2011 - 6:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Marcos Ambrose is running Montreal in a #9 RPM Ford with sponsorship from Stanley. Owen Kelly will practice and qualify the car on Friday. 68. Alex posted: 08.15.2011 - 8:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #66 I believe Todd Bodine will start and park the HP car so McDowell can focus on Nationwide. 69. Talon64 posted: 08.16.2011 - 4:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) yeah I realized after I posted I was wrong about Carl being the only Cup guy there but couldn't get back to correct myself until now. 70. Talon64 posted: 08.16.2011 - 6:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) oh and Trevor Bayne's scheduled to do double duty too, driving the #21 at Michigan and the #16 in Montreal. 71. cjs3872 posted: 08.16.2011 - 6:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And Talon64, why on earth is Roush having Trevor Bayne drive in the race at Montreal, since he is scheduled to neither practice or qualify the car. One-time IndyCar driver Michel Jourdain, Jr. is scheduled to handle those duties, because Bayne will be driving the Wood Brothers car in Michgan. There's even a possibility that Jourdain might not even qualify the car for the race, though the chances of that happening are next-to-none. It does have to qualify on time, since it did not compete in the first Iowa race this year. The reason I ask this question is, what does Roush hope to gain by putting Bayne in that car under those circumstances? He is 11th in points, with virtually no chance to catch 10th-place Michael Annett, short of Annett being fired by Rusty Wallace, as well as ninth-place Brian Scott. Currently, Bayne is nearly two full races behind Annett and Scott in the points standings, and even with a stronger team, I don't think Bayne could hope to make up that much ground, even if he gets a miracle win before the season's over. Sure, he could drop to as low as 15th if he misses the race this week, but running him in a race the same weekend as one of his part-time Cup races on antoher track, to me, makes no sense at all. 72. Cooper posted: 08.16.2011 - 8:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) cjs, experience. Trevor needs more laps on road courses. Seems simple to me. 73. DaleSrFanForever posted: 08.16.2011 - 8:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "with virtually no chance to catch 10th-place Michael Annett, short of Annett being fired by Rusty Wallace" Or getting another DUI. Sorry, I had to go there. I couldn't help it. 74. cjs3872 posted: 08.16.2011 - 11:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Cooper, Trevor looked like he did pretty good at Watkins Glen to me, as he was on the lead lap for the entire race, and last week, especially for non-Cup drivers or road course specialists, that was a pretty good accomplishment in itself. And if Roush thought he needed more road course experience, why didn't he try to get him in that car he had Stenhouse and Ragan in during the GrandAm race? Something tells me that that, since Bayne really has nothing to gain from running the NNS race at Montreal, since there's no chance for him to move up in the point standings from where he currently is by year's end, unless something really strange happens, that Roush might be running him in this race to showcase him for another team potentially, because why else would he run Bayne in a race that he shouldn't be running in, due to his Cup obligations with the Wood Brothers at Michigan. Something about running Bayne in this race just doesn't add up to me, even though he is sponsored in the Nationwide Series for just the third time this year. Now if he didn't have a Cup obligation for the Wood Brothers this week at Michigan, then yes, I can see Roush having a good reason to run him in this race. But also, since he is going to be in a #16 car sponsored by 3M, I wonder if and when Boris Said may take a shot at him, due to what happened at Watkins Glen between him and Greg Biffle, though Biffle was not in a car sponsored by 3M this past weekend. 75. RCRandPenskeGuy posted: 08.16.2011 - 11:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Or getting another DUI. Sorry, I had to go there. I couldn't help it." The good news is, he probably won't get one for a while if his license is still suspended. Personally, if I were Rusty I would also have fired him after the incident just before the season started, regardless if he comes with a sponsor or not. That crap can't be tolerated. 76. irony posted: 08.17.2011 - 12:19 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Speaking of Nashville SS, Rockingham is getting safer barriers. Could be a good sign that it will get a date from Nashville. 77. cjs3872 posted: 08.17.2011 - 9:39 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) The only way that NASCAR would even consider taking one of it's touring series back to Rockingham is if they fix the walls, and I don't mean adding SAFER barriers, which of course, would be nice. The biggest problem is that the wall there, especially exiting turn two, acts as a launching pad for the cars because it's not set at a 90 degree angle in relation to the track itself. Any time a car hits the wall at that part of the track with any force, the car immediately goes into the air. As a result, I would call that wall an unsafe wall, and unless they can make it so that cars won't get airborne every time they hit the wall at that spot, it would be a bad idea to have any major races there. 78. irony posted: 08.17.2011 - 10:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Rockingham isn't the only track with that style transition. I'm sure that could be fixed with the safer barrier. 79. 00andJoe posted: 08.20.2011 - 12:37 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) #20 sponsor should be just GameStop. 80. 00andJoe posted: 09.22.2011 - 5:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #82 owner: Pat MacDonald 81. Daniel posted: 05.21.2012 - 12:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) In using fastest 43: #41 Tomy Drissi, #46 Chase Miller, #47 Brian Keselowski, #50 Brian Simo Out using fastest 43: #21 Tim George Jr., #28 Derrike Cope, #70 Dennis Setzer, #89 Morgan Shepherd 82. Nascar Lead Lap Points posted: 04.24.2014 - 8:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Withdrew 74 Mike Harmon TBA Chevrolet Mike Harmon 83. Windows Millennium Edition posted: 03.13.2016 - 3:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Withdrew: WD|Chris Cook|71|Rick Ware Racing|Rick Ware|Ford 84. Ak47 posted: 05.12.2016 - 2:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kurt and JJ top 2 in a Nationwide race..what a strange sight 85. 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