|| *Comments on the 2011 NAPA Auto Parts 200:* View the most recent comment <#90> | Post a comment <#post> 1. Rusty posted: 08.20.2011 - 9:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Jacques Villeneuve is two for two in bonehead moves in Nationwide races this year. Luckily for Ambrose, he recovered to win. Steve Wallace got his career high finish but took out Patrick Carpentier in his final race in the process. Prompting Carpentier's crew chief to attack Steve after the race. 2. NicoRosbergFan posted: 08.20.2011 - 9:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Lead changes: 2 Cautions: 6 for 17 laps First top-5s for Alex Tagliani and JR Fitzpatrick First top-4 for Steve Wallace 3. 00andJoe posted: 08.20.2011 - 9:13 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) One of the corner workers was asleep at the switch (or flag, as it were) at the first caution. With Dufault spun and stopped in the track, then -blocking- the track, he didn't wave the blue "local caution" flag until AFTER four other cars blew past him at full speed, one of which, Bayne, wound up catching the rear of the 81 with his right front (and only 1.5 seconds before the course went full-course yellow, after Dufault was stopped IN the track for about 30-45 seconds at least)... -Best career finish for Alex Tagliani, Michael McDowell, J.R. Fitzpatrick, Scott Speed, Kyle Kelley and Luis Martinez, Jr. -First career NNS start for Louis-Philippe Dumoulin and Maryeve Dufault. 4. 00andJoe posted: 08.20.2011 - 9:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And best career finish for Swervin' Steve, too. NRF - There were a lot more than 2 lead changes. 5. 00andJoe posted: 08.20.2011 - 9:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #9 sponsor: Stanley/DeWalt #60 sponsor: Fastenal/Metabo #87 sponsor: D.A.B. Constructors #53 sponsor: Quebec Dodge Dealers/Bollegraaf 6. irony posted: 08.20.2011 - 9:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Danica must of had a good run. She was running 27th with 15 to go then 12th with 2 to go but something happened. I missed most of it and couldn't hear it so I don't know. 7. cjs3872 posted: 08.20.2011 - 9:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I wouldn't call Villeneuve's move boneheaded as much as I'd call it trying a little too hard. Remember that there was rain in the area (which didn't hit until after the race was over), and that fact that the track that they were racing on was named after Villeneuve's father, Gilles, resulted in Jacques trying a little too hard. Sometimes when you REALLY want to win at a certain venue, you wind up trying too hard, which often is detrimental to your efforts. If you want greater proof of this, try sampling Greg Norman's history at Augusta in the Masters. He often lost that event because he tried too hard. Now, early in this race, there was a scary moment that could have proved tragic. The #81 car, driven by Maryeve Dufault (named apporpriately), spun out in a blind corner. Trying to get going get, she wound stopped sideways on the track. behind her were two cars, the second of which was Trevor Bayne's #16. Only his innate ability to sense and get out of trouble saved what could have been a tragic accident. Sure, he nicked Dufault's #81 car, but it could have been so much worse. During the caution, he told his team that he had no warning that there was a car sideways in the middle of the track, since it was a blind corner, he couldn't see it ahead of him, plus he was behind another car. How he didnt just plow straight through Dufault's car, or run over the car directly in front of him, I'll never know. He was heard talking to his team over the radio (which was not working before the race started) during that caution that he thought he was going to die, which was more than a little over the top on his part, and that he had never been so scared inside a racecar. The commentators took his comments as a scolding of the Roush team not putting any spotters for him near that area of the track, and I didn't see any corner workers there, either, so they couldn't have warned him, or the driver in front of him of the car blocking the track while they were still at racing speed. Also, like the Truck series, it doesn't seem theat anyone wants this championship either. Late in the race, it looked like Reed Sorenson was going to get a good finish, but he got spun, and eventually blew a tire on the last lap. while that was going on, points leader Ricky Stenhouse, Jr., who looked like he might salvage a good finish, blew his engine after running over something that cut his radiator cap off. Elliott Sadler had a consistent day, winding up in tenth place. Because of his experience, and the vast amount of experience behind him, Sadler is, right now, my pick to win the Nationwide Series championship, but he might do so without a single finish better than third this year. That and the fact that James Buescher might win the Truck series title without a win, AND failing to qualify for a race could mean significant changes to the point structure for next year, to make sure this possibility never happens again. After all, can anyone imagine TWO of NASCAR's top three series with a champion without a victory in the same year? 8. Darrell posted: 08.20.2011 - 9:36 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @cjs, David Green could very well have had a winless championship season had it not been for a bizarre move on Mark Martin's part. The new points system is fine. It keeps things close and not being the Cup driver runaways that have been the trend the past few years. If Edwards and friends can take a few more weeks off, than Sadler should be in victory lane in no time. 9. irony posted: 08.20.2011 - 9:38 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Travis Kvapil in 2003 only had a win because Harvick (yes another Cup driver) blew a tire on the final lap. I have no problem with a win-less champion. 10. DaleSrFanForever posted: 08.20.2011 - 9:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) After the Road America race I criticized the announcers for saying JV made a bonehead move. I would like to rescind that criticism. The guy is a complete bonehead. He just drove right back into traffic at a 90 degree angle. What the HELL did he think was gonna happen? Should have ruined Ambrose's day, but he came back with a vengence. That dude can flat drive a road course. Great speed showed by Penske. That 22 team is fast no matter who is in the car. And Tags was very impressive in the 12. He was there all day. Steve Wallace has officially reverted back to his '06 - '08 driving. Yet he comes off as a sympathetic figure cause some moron on the MWR crew decided to PULL HIS HAIR! Are you serious? Are you a bunch of girls? But still, Steve does not belong. He has way too much experience at this point to still be that clueless out there. And did you see Carpentier give him the bird as he was sitting backwards on the track? Watching Robby on these NWide road courses is like a never ending comedy act. Strong runs, but you just know it will come unglued at some point. He just slammed Tags and busted his oil cooler. Did you guys catch Boris puking after his wreck? Rusty had a horrible time in the booth even by his low standards, that's for sure! 11. RaceFanX posted: 08.20.2011 - 9:52 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Patrick Carpentier got a standing ovation from the crowd after his retirement in his final race. The spare pace car give him a ride around the track afterward. 12. 18fan posted: 08.20.2011 - 9:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sorenson got spun, seemingly intentionally, by Carl Edwards. Sorenson had gotten pinched onto the grass by his teammate Justin Allgaier, and then Carl Edwards throttled up in a spot where everybody is off the gas, drove onto the grass to spin Sorenson, to attempt to aid his teammate Stenhouse, who couldn't take advantage because he blew up. 13. potatosalad48 posted: 08.20.2011 - 9:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Marcos goes 2 for 2 in road course races this week as he FINALLY wins at Montreal, despite his issues early on. J.R. Fitzpatrick finishes 5th after not being mentioned all day. 5th! by a team who has been lackluster at best. 14. Matthew Sullivan posted: 08.20.2011 - 10:03 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Danica broke an axle on the next to last lap. Aric Almirola had a certain top 10 and a great points day ruined by Jason Leffler (big surprise!) on the final lap. 15. 18fan posted: 08.20.2011 - 10:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The 5 team epically butchered their strategy late in the race. Trevor Bayne pitted at the end of the first lap and then spun at the exit of pit road. He had a long eventful day. Brian Scott spun in the final corner trying to pass Steven Wallace for 4th and finished 12th. Finally, helluva drive by Marcos Ambrose. He passed the whole field except for Villeneuve from starting in the back, got spun by Jacques' questionable move to come back onto the racetrack, then spun Villeneuve about three corners later, then passed the whole field again to storm right past Tagliani, who drove a great race and was in contention all day, and McDowell and drive home uncontested. 16. cjs3872 posted: 08.20.2011 - 10:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Yes, Darrell, and Martin's boneheaded move that put Green in victory lane that day came at the same place that Benny Parsons scored the only win in his 1973 Cup championship campaign--with Johnny Utsman in the car, Bristol, and that was Green's only win that year. But the potential to have TWO winless champions in the same year, one of which even missing a race, has to make NASCAR go back to the drawing board. The easy solution is to keep the points behind tenth what they currently are, and increase the point totals, and spread between the positions inside the top ten, and especially the top five. Make it five points from first to second, three per position from 2-3 through 4-5, and two per position from 5-6 through 9-10, and keep everything else below tenth what it currently is. It may make bad finishes more penal, but there would also be a better chance to catch up, especially if you can win several races. In other words, with tenth place getting 34 points, minus bonuses, ninth would get 36, eighth 38, seventh 40, sixth 42, fifth 44, fourth 47, third 50, second 53, and winning 58. With the bonus points available, that would mean a possible 60 for the win, which wouls be a possible 26-point spread fron first to tenth, or 43 1/3%. The current maximum spread is 14 points, or 29.1%. That's a difference of over 14% from first through tenth, which will, in turn encourage harder racing for all the top positions. Now, if a driver is third, he won't take much of a chance to go for second, since the difference is just one point, but make it three points, or more, and I think you will see the drivers and teams take more chances. What you have now is ultra-conservative strategy among the teams, and ultra-conservative driving, because it just doesn't pay to take the risk going for the spots late in the race, if it's not for the win. And I think that ultra-conservative thinking is why you have seen so many different winners, and so many surprise winners this year, because many of the teams that would normally press for the win, are just afraid to take the chance, because it is more harmful when a risk doesn't work, than it is when a risk taken is successful. And I think that will continue, if not accelerate during the final races of the year. 17. Neal posted: 08.20.2011 - 10:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) The worst part of Steve Wallace's wreck with Carpentier was listening to his dad say "That was an aggressive move." No, Rusty, that was a stupid move. 18. cjs3872 posted: 08.20.2011 - 10:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 18fan, God I hope you are wrong about Edwards intentionally spinning Sorenson so Stenhouse wouldn't be hurt in the championship points, because that would send a terrible precedent. Remember that, in my opinion, Kevin Harvick may have done the same thing to Trevor Bayne late in the race in New Hampshire, mistaking Bayne's car for Stenhouse's (both were running up front at the time), trying to protect Sadler. If Harvick had not done that, Bayne might very well have won that race. But if what you're saying is true, then NASCAR is going to have to step in hard and fast to avoid this from continuing, or there could be a repeat of 1956, when Carl Kiekhafer had one of his other drivers take out Herb Thomas in an attempt to help Buck Baker, who was driving for Kiekhafer win the championship that year. That incident ended Thomas' career. 19. 18fan posted: 08.20.2011 - 10:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) cjs, not only that, but the race that Speedy Thompson intentionally wrecked Herb Thomas was only run because Kiekhafer bought a track and demanded that Bill France add a race there. The Edwards thing looked intentional to me because of where Carl got on the gas compared to where everybody else was getting on the gas. Even when the Formula One cars race there drivers don't accelerate at that point in the hairpin at Montreal. Plus, knowing Carl Edwards, anything is possible. 20. StevenWallaceCan'tDrive posted: 08.20.2011 - 10:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) I think my username says it all. What a worthless idiot. At least when Villeneuve pulls a dumb move you can maybe say its due to his relative inexperience in these cars, but regardless the guy is still an Indy 500 winner and world champion. 21. cjs3872 posted: 08.20.2011 - 10:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Not to mention Jack Roush. Anything is possible where he's involved. After all, he apparently didn't give Trevor Bayne enough spotters to help him in that situation with Dufault's car, and only great reflexes, as well as his incredible instincts, avoided a possible tragedy. (I'm not sure Roush deserves a guy like Bayne anyway, but that's another story for anoter day.) And remember the incident in 1998 at Loudon where he accused Ray Evernham of cheating? If you are going to flatly accuse another team of cheating, you'd better have proof, and he didn't have any. Now I think they probably were cheating, though not in the way Roush accused them of doing so, but if you are going to make such a public accusation, you had better have proof, or you are going to have no credibility with the other competitors. But if Edwards did intentionally spin out Sorenson to aid Stenhouse's quest for the title, NASCAR had better step in hard and fast, and maybe even suspend Edwards, or the next driver to do something like this, for one race in that particular series, so that this kind of thing never happens again. After all, as was the case with Thompson and Herb Thomas in 1956, the next time this happens, it could prove disatrous, and even fatal. 22. 00andJoe posted: 08.20.2011 - 10:53 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "I didn't see any corner workers there, either, so they couldn't have warned him" There was a cornerworker at the corner in the background, who didn't start waving the blue 'danger ahead' flag until AFTER Bayne and the pack he was with had shot past - at which pointDufault had been sitting there stalled in the -middle of the racing line- for ~30+ seconds. Hence my "asleep at the switch" comment earlier. "The 5 team epically butchered their strategy late in the race." They were counting on the rain hitting, and it didn't - simple as that. They gambled and lost, sometimes that happens. I have to say I liked Ambrose sending the 22 into the spin cycle three corners after JV clobbered him. No vowing revenge, no fulminating for weeks, just dealing with the issue at hand in an immediate and appropriate manner and moving on (epically, too). And yeah, Steve Wallace is officially Swervin' Steve. 23. cjs3872 posted: 08.20.2011 - 11:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 00andJoe, what you said about the corner workers may be true, but the commentators also remarked about Bayne's comments on his radio after that incident as a scolding of his team, in that he should have had a spotter that could see that part of the track, and he didn't have one. (Those were the thoughts of those calling the race on ESPN, which I agree with, especially since where that incident took place was coming out of a blind corner.) If he had any warning at all, he would have slowed down well before he got there, and the same is true about the car he was trailing. Again, how Bayne didn't pile into Dufault's car, or run over the car he was right behind, I'll never know. If there had been a driver that didn't have Bayne's reflexes or instincts, we may be talking here about the avoidable death of a driver, most likely Dufault. 24. RCRandPenskeGuy posted: 08.20.2011 - 11:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Glad to see Marcos finally get a win at Montreal after the way this track has haunted him over the years by waving a victory in front of his face and denying him. As I've said before, Marcos has mad skills on the road courses and deserves it. He's no doubt one of the classiest acts in NASCAR. Alex Taglani and Jacques have strong days going until Jacques decided that it would be okay to drive into traffic. What the hell were you thinking, Jacques?! Taglani comes close to the win, but couldn't hold off Ambrose. I also think it would have been cool to see him win. If Elliott Sadler ends up winning this championship by scoring mostly 5th-10th place finishes, it will no doubt be considered a weak championship. But I mentioned on the Watkins Glen page that Ricky Stenhouse needed to avoid trouble in this race to have a great shot at the title, but he's lucky to be leading the points still. If Reed Sorenson had not spun briefly before Ricky, he might not be. "After the Road America race I criticized the announcers for saying JV made a bonehead move. I would like to rescind that criticism. The guy is a complete bonehead. He just drove right back into traffic at a 90 degree angle. What the HELL did he think was gonna happen? Should have ruined Ambrose's day, but he came back with a vengence. That dude can flat drive a road course." I'm with you there. I was also willing to give Villeneuve (sp?) a break for his Road America move, but what he did today proves that he might have a tendency to make stupid moves. "Yet he comes off as a sympathetic figure cause some moron on the MWR crew decided to PULL HIS HAIR!" I did laugh out loud when that happened for two reasons: 1) The rate he's been going lately, sooner or later SOMEONE was going to come after him for causing a wreck. 2) Of all the things to do to Steve, the guy decides to pull his hair?! "Watching Robby on these NWide road courses is like a never ending comedy act. Strong runs, but you just know it will come unglued at some point. He just slammed Tags and busted his oil cooler." Funny thing is, when Taglani got into him (which was nothing more than a racing deal but Robby always takes things too far), I said right there and then that he was going to do something stupid and end up screwing himself. I was right. 25. Jon posted: 08.21.2011 - 12:12 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) man i'm becoming a big ambrose fan. the guy has a ton of heart and i love his attitude. today was the most fun come from behind win i've seen in a while. props to him because i wrote him off after JV's bonehead move. i'm glad that every time they showed steve wallace make a stupid decision, rusty kept his mouth shut for once. really long for the day where rusty is out of the booth and steve is out of the racecar. i can't stand either of them. 26. AlmirolaFan88 posted: 08.21.2011 - 12:17 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I have mixed feelings about this one. I'm happy for Marcos Ambrose, he's enjoying the best week of his NASCAR career, winning 2 races in 6 days. But, I am slightly annoyed that yet another Cup guy steals a win from a would be first time winner. Not to mention the only other Cup guy in the field was non-existant for 99% of the race... Jason Bowles also gets his career best finish, in his final race of the season. Michael McDowell makes his final scheduled start of the season as well. I hope he returns to JGR in an expanded role next season. He's only 26. The door shouldn't close on his career just yet. Nice run for Scott Speed as well. He led more laps today (5) than he did in 13 starts in 2009. (3). Not really an important stat, just felt like throwin it out there. Aric sees his streak of 5 straight Top 10's come to an end, but the fact that he's been competitive in the past 2 road course races (not exactly a strength of his) has me more confident in the #88 team's resurgence for the remainder of the season. Time to start building momentum for next year. 27. 00andJoe posted: 08.21.2011 - 12:38 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) AlmirolaFan88 - I actually don't begrudge the Cup drivers in this one (no, not even Carl). Montreal is the poster child and (possibly) one pure example of the "let them run so the fans can see their heroes" argument, and being the only race in Canada as well, it's good for the race that they run here. And especially with Marcus finally getting the Montreal monkey off his back. 28. 00andJoe posted: 08.21.2011 - 12:40 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Also to the back: Jeff Green (#44) driver's choice 29. Schroeder51 posted: 08.21.2011 - 12:54 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) HAH! Tomy Drissi drove an Alvin and the Chipmunks car. That's too funny. 30. 12345Dude posted: 08.21.2011 - 1:46 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I just wanted to make one quick comment. About cjs's point system. I think it's a good idea. But the whole idea of this new points system was to make it simpler. For example, I remember events like this happening when talking to friends about past racing events. I believe it was the truck series. I believe it was Hornaday leading when Benson was in 2nd in the standings. I was telling my friend how great this points battle was. And how it was going down to the end. He asked how many points Benson was away. He was like 30 points behind with around 5 races to go in the season. My friend replied, wait it sounds to me like Hornaday has already won the title. There is no was Benson can catch him. Then I tried to explain the point system to him. And how it was actually a really close battle. My friend was baffled to say the least. The whole point of the new point system was A. To make the title hunts look really close B. To make the points system simple. I remember reading this on Jayski last year. If they would of used this point system instead of the one they had last year. Then before the final race at Homestead these would of been the points standings. 1. Denny Hamlin 2. Jimmie Johnson -1 Point 3. Kevin Harvick -2 Points This is what I would do. It makes winning more imporant. Plus it makes the point system simple. Use the same system they have now. Except give 55 points for winning a race. That doesnt include the lap that you lead, from winning. Or another point for leading the most laps. With this point system, this would be the current point standings: Trucks: 1. Johnny Sauter 2. Austin Dillion -8 3. Timothy Peters -12 4. James Buescher -15 Nationwide: 1. Ricky Stenhouse Jr. 2. Reed Sorenson -19 3. Elliott Sadler -28 Yes both of those standings look farther apart. Atleast from who's leading. But that's just a coincidence. This fixed 2 things. A. You can get rid of the chase. Blowout champion (like years past), well win some races and you'll be back in the title hunt. B. People fighting harder for the win, means better races. Also another way to make sure there is no 0 win champion. Put a 15 race limit in nationwide and 10 race limit in truck. For cup drivers running in the lower series. 31. Bronco posted: 08.21.2011 - 2:15 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) My first NASCAR race. Didn't really purchase a ticket to any particular grandstand, rather I just watched the race from the hairpin. Got a good view of the #32, #99 going around, as well as the #6 and #30 coming to a stop. My overall impression? Fun for sure, but overall the facility (Parc Jean Drapeau) could use some improvements. More shaded and grassy areas would be welcomed, as well as bigger and clearer jumbotrons and a track PA system. They showed the ESPN broadcast on the screen, but it was too blurry to see what lap they were on, and there was no audio to go with it. I wouldn't mind seeing Montreal lose their race date if it would go to Mosport Raceway in Ontario. Far more accessible, and would likely draw a much larger crowd. Overall probably the tamest Montreal race that I can remember. 32. Smokefan05 posted: 08.21.2011 - 2:27 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I don't know if anyone can confirm this (and i'm not posting this question on the SPEED boards) I read on one of my friends Youtube channels that NASCAR is trying to save the Montreal race and that NASCAR is thinking of expanding to Canada. Can anybody confirms this? Or has heard anything? I know this just a rumor (a big one at that). 33. NicoRosbergFan posted: 08.21.2011 - 6:19 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Dang it, as an Italian, I wanted Tags to win. :( Congrats to Marcos for shaking the monkey off his back. Also, I obviously meant 11 lead changes, not 2. Typo! 34. NicoRosbergFan posted: 08.21.2011 - 6:20 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) 10 not 11. Boy, I feel dumb right now. 35. Damon posted: 08.21.2011 - 7:09 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Default was very Milka Duno-like out there yesterday, just pitiful. Overall, fun race and it shows you that while stock cars don't necessarily belong on road courses, they can put on a better show than IndyCars do on them most of the time. 36. DaleSrFanForever posted: 08.21.2011 - 9:11 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I don't like the Swervin Steve nickname. Yes, it is undeniable Swervin Irvan made more than his share of dumb and impatient moves out there. But he could also win Cup races in equipment that wasn't quite top notch, mmost notaby beating top drivers at their own game. Beating Rusty at Bristol, Earnhardt at Daytona and Dega a few times, beating Rusty, Ricky, and Terry at the road courses a few times. Ernie was damn good, with many episodes of bad judgement. Steve just sucks. But the hair pulling was yet another embarrassment in a long line of embarrassments for MWR. That organization is truly a monument to fail. 37. cjs3872 posted: 08.21.2011 - 9:32 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) 12345Dude, I think even 15 races for a fully active Cup driver in the Nationwide Series is too many. Like I've said, I think the maximum number of races that a Cup driver with at least three full years, or 100 starts, should be able to start in a lower division series in a year is no more than 10-12. That does not include, of course, drivers with that much Cup experience that don't have a full-time Cup ride, such as Reed Sorenson and Elliott Sadler, or drivers not seriously competing in the Cup series, such as Joe Nemechek, who does a S&P program in Cup to finance his NW program. I came up with a 10-12 race limit, because that is one-third of the season. As for the point system, why on Earth does the series use a system catered to the fans? I thought the idea of a points system was to determine a champion among the competitors. A one point per position points system, like what is being used this year, just does not make it worth while for drivers to race for positions higher in the running order, since taking a chance to get second when running third is a risk with next-to-no reward if you succeed. That's why we're seeing so many surprise winners this year, because the teams trying to win a championship can't take that risk, beacuse there's virtually no reward if that risk is successful, but if it's not successful, it is disatrous in terms of the championship. That's why we're seeing more riding up front than racing. It's just not worth it to race if you're among the leaders. 38. Daniel posted: 08.21.2011 - 12:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Fun race, but disappointed in ESPN's post-race coverage. Interview the 24th place driver, but McDowell who finished 3rd and Fitzpatrick who finished 5th in an unsponsored, part-time, single-car team don't? That's a load of crap. 39. NicoRosbergFan posted: 08.21.2011 - 12:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Daniel: See the 2008 fall Richmond race. Dave Blaney finished THIRD and didn't get acknowledged. Interesting how ESPN and everyone else worships Danica, the tramp, but hardly notices the much greater skills of Sarah Fisher and Simona de Silvestro in heavily underfunded equipment. 40. cjs3872 posted: 08.21.2011 - 12:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) NRF, but that always happens in the fall race at Richmond, because that is the race in which the Chase field is set. So if you din't win the race, and don't make the Chase, you never get mentioned. The same thing happened to Johnny Sauter and Mike Bliss, who also scored their best Cup finishes in that event in various years. David Ragan also shared that fate when he finished third in that event once. That's just a fact, a terrible thing to have happen I know, but a fact that, in that race, ESPN, and before that, NBC/TNT, always concentrated their efforts on that winner of that event, and the group of the drivers that made the Chase, as well as the one that came closest, but got knocked out. That's another reason whay the Chase is a terrible idea, because only the drivers that make the Chase, or the race winner, get mentioned. you could finish second in a photo-finish, but if you don't make the Chase, you may not get mantioned like you should. 41. 00andJoe posted: 08.21.2011 - 1:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Damon: I'll cut Dufault a break given it was her very first race in the NNS cars and, if the cornerworker hadn't been sitting on his flags her spins wouldn't have hurt anybody. If in future starts she keeps up the spin cycle even her looks won't defend her though. DSFF: Fair enough. And I assume you meant RWR, of course. 42. Frank posted: 08.21.2011 - 2:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 21. cjs3872. I heard from commentators that NASCAR limits teams to have 1 spotter per car, so Trevor had no chance to be warned directly, but what about his cc with tv monitor in front of him? And terrible job by officials with no yellow flag BEFORE corner. Danica really impressed me - she ran solidly most of the race. Yes, wear out brakes but so did out championship leader. Sad if local government close that race by I know pretty much nothing about Mosport so hope it's cool track too. 43. Frank posted: 08.21.2011 - 2:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) *close that race but I know 44. Captain77 posted: 08.21.2011 - 3:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Rumor is that Gibbs is running TRD engines so he can run a 4th Nationwide car and a Truck team. I don't know if this is true or not.. But I would like to see Truex in a truck full time and McDowell in a Nationwide car 45. cjs3872 posted: 08.21.2011 - 5:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Frank, I know that NASCAR, for the sake of safety, allowed more than one spotter at tracks in which one spotter couldn't see the entire track. I mean, teams use two spotters at the big tracks all the time, especially Pocono, Indy, Daytona, and Talladega, where you can't see the entire track, and I thought they were allowed to use multiple spotters in the road course events for the same reason. I've seen teams use multiple spotters for those races on the big ovals, as well as the road courses, so don't tell me something that I know isn't true. And if Gibbs does start a fourth team next year, it might very well be with Clint Bowyer as the driver, since his future with Childress is suddenly up in the air. But then what would happen with the #33 car next year, unless the team is shut down, a lot like I think the #16 NNS team will likely be shut down at year's end, due to lack of sponsorship. 46. cjs3872 posted: 08.21.2011 - 5:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 00andJoe, maybe, because it was a blind corner, that the corner worker couldn't see Dufault's car either. Could that be why he was so far behind on throwing the blue (local yellow) flag? 47. 18fan posted: 08.21.2011 - 7:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) NASCAR is taking the right rear spring from Ambrose's car back to the R&D center. They didn't say what they were looking for and that the win would not be taken away. 48. NioRosbergFan posted: 08.21.2011 - 7:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) cjs: they can have multiple spotters. Roush didn't provide Bayne with such, though. The ESPN dufus trio said it. 49. DaleSrFanForever posted: 08.21.2011 - 9:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Fun race, but disappointed in ESPN's post-race coverage. Interview the 24th place driver, but McDowell who finished 3rd and Fitzpatrick who finished 5th in an unsponsored, part-time, single-car team don't? That's a load of crap." I agree 100% that it is a load of crap, but we'd better get used to it. Next year's coverage will be all Danica all the time. "And I assume you meant RWR, of course." Actually I meant MWR. From the rocket fuel deal to the ridiculous explanation for the rocket fuel deal (one rogue member? right) to the humongous pile of debt to the stolen swaybar to HairGate, that is a lot of embarrassing incidents for an organization in just its 5th year. Although their most embarrassing situation is probably how they have so many talented people working there including two cha$e caliber drivers that are very talented, yet they constantly run like shit. Today at Michigan was pathetic. Both cars were junk all day. They got much better finishes than they ran. Reut and Truex are both much better than that. And to add insult, they both have to be in commercials with their attention whore co-owner being the "star". MWR is a monument of fail. It's hard to get a good reading for RWR, they have never had a driver worth a shit for more than a few races. 50. cjs3872 posted: 08.21.2011 - 10:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) NRF, I knew that, but Frank didn't, and yes, Roush didn't provide Bayne with an extra spotter, just like he can't, or won't, find him a sponsor. And by the way, DSFF, and let's not forget the debacle at Michael Waltrip Racing involving Trevor Bayne. MWR releases Bayne due to lack of sponsorship, Roush picks him up, loans him to the Wood Brothers, and he wins the Daytona 500, becoming the first rookie ever to win that event, and the youngest winner of a 500-mile race ever. Add that to the debacles at Michael Waltrip Racing. And now the latest driver released by MWR, Ryan Truex, is going to race a Joe Gibbs Racing car in the Nationwide Series for six races later this year. Possibly yet another disater for MWR, which just can't keep ant good young dirvers it seems to get, while waiting on Travis Pastrana, who will be an absolute disaster. Count on it. 51. cjs3872 posted: 08.21.2011 - 10:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And by the way DSFF, Trevor Bayne considers David Reutimann the most underrated driver in NASCAR, which tells you something right there. Since they were corporate teammates last year, he would probably know how good Reutimann truly is. 52. myothercarisanM535i posted: 08.21.2011 - 10:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I posted this over on the Cup series page, but it ultimately belongs here. "Montreal doesn't deserve a NASCAR race in any major series, not after what happened with Dufault's car, and the tragedy that was just barely avoided, due to the fact that you had a blind corner with trees, and a car sideways on the track that nobody, not even cormer workers, could see." I think the blame is with NASCAR, not the track workers. NASCAR's inabilty to effectively use local yellow flags and the fact that they couldn't properly run a road course race to save their own skin is what resulted in that incident today. I wouldn't be surprised if NASCAR told the marshals not to display a flag until directed to by NASCAR. It should be the corner workers feeding information to race control, not the other way around. I also think you're wrong about the track - in that the corner workers couldn't see the #81 stopped parked where it was - you could clearly see the two marshals fromt heir flag point looking at the #81 and then looking back towards the oncoming traffic. The blame for that incident lies entirely with NASCAR's stubborn incompetence - the blue flags are yellow? What on earth is that rubbish?! The officiating on the road courses has continually been embarassing. It's only the excellent racing that saves the events from being truly farcical. 53. irony posted: 08.21.2011 - 10:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The media coverage is over the top, but tramp she's not. I guess when she runs well people have to find something else to dog her for. 54. 00andJoe posted: 08.21.2011 - 11:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I wouldn't be surprised if NASCAR told the marshals not to display a flag until directed to by NASCAR. It should be the corner workers feeding information to race control, not the other way around. I also think you're wrong about the track - in that the corner workers couldn't see the #81 stopped parked where it was - you could clearly see the two marshals fromt heir flag point looking at the #81 and then looking back towards the oncoming traffic. " As I said in the other comment thread, NASCAR had nothing to do with it - it was those cornerworkers going "oh, we don't need to do anything" - *pack of cars shoot around the corner* - "MERDE!" *frantic flag-waving*. They saw Dufault sitting there just fine, and on their own (lack of) initiative decided they didn't need to flag anything until it was far too late to do any good. 55. 00andJoe posted: 08.21.2011 - 11:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "The media coverage is over the top, but tramp [Danica Patrick is] not. I guess when she runs well people have to find something else to dog her for. " My thoughts exactly. (And I hope her husband never comes across NRF's comments about her.) 56. cjs3872 posted: 08.22.2011 - 12:14 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) 00andJoe, when a car is stopped, spun, or hopelessly slow on a road course, the corner workers MUST wave a yellow (or blue as was the case in Montreal) flag to warn any oncoming drivers, if they see a car in that condition. They can not anticipate anything. If that car gets out of the way without incident, they can withdraw the yellow flag in that part of the track immediately, unless the sanctioning body running the race declares a caution flag for the entire course. If NASCAR did indeed have nothing to do with them not throwin the caution in that part of the track immediately, those corner workers should be fired immediately and not allowed to work another race again, because that could very easily have ended in tragedy for one or more of those drivers. Have these people learned nothing over time? Back in the 1971 Indianapolis 500, two cars crashed into three cars that had been parked by the inner wall that they had between turn four and the pit entrance late in the race on about lap 165. They had been parked there more between one and two hours, if not longer. One car that was struck was that of Steve Krisiloff, which blew an engine on the 13th lap of that race, while another car, the one driven by Mark Donohue, went out on the 67th lap with gearbox failure. The third was driven by Bentley Warren. When the cars of Mike Mosley and Bobby Unser crashed into those three parked cars, they did so with such force that it just about turned Donohue's car over. Mosley suffered major burns as a result of that incident, and might have died if it weren't for the efforts of Gary Bettenhausen, who's own father died not far from that spot on the track a decade eariler. Bettenahusen may have saved Mosley's life when he pulled him out of that car. Just imagine if this year's Daytona 500 winner had met the same fate as Mosley, or had actually died in that crash, if he hadn't been so alert, what the aftermath would have been. 57. myothercarisanM535i posted: 08.22.2011 - 12:40 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "If NASCAR did indeed have nothing to do with them not throwin the caution in that part of the track immediately, those corner workers should be fired immediately and not allowed to work another race again, because that could very easily have ended in tragedy for one or more of those drivers. " This x1000. If you don't mind me asking about the 1971 Indy 500 - I've never seen the race and in fact, the only knowledge I have of it is from your posts on the topic - were there any caution periods between those three cars being parked on the inside of the track and the incident when they were hit? I ask because I've mentioned before that I don't mind cars being parked off the track (on a road course) if there is a yellow flag condition on that part of the track, but at the first oppourtunity, they MUST be removed. I had actually forgotten until just now, that I was actually quite impressed by NASCAR's handling of Patrick Carpentier's car. It was parked in a safe location, shielded by the tyre barriers and so there was no need to impose a full course caution. I honestly wasn't expecting them to do that, but I'm quite glad they did. 58. 18fan posted: 08.22.2011 - 1:14 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) DSFF, Every time I see that Aaron's commercial with Reut and his daughter tells him that one day he'll be the official Aaron's spokesperson I always say to myself, "Not until Michael Waltrip dies." 59. The Deuce posted: 08.22.2011 - 4:04 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "The media coverage is over the top, but tramp she's not. I guess when she runs well people have to find something else to dog her for." Some people have a problem separating the media BS from the driver. It's not like Danica Patrick gets out of her car after a race and runs over to the cameras begging for an interview. Most of the time, she looks like she'd rather be anywhere else by talking to the pit reporters. She usually has this look on her face like, "Why the heck are you talking to me? I just finished 24th!". It's not like she claims to be great, or demands that everyone pays attention to her. I can see why some might have a problem with her commercials, if they're uptight and have stick up their a$$ about sexuality. Oh my god, a woman using her body to further her career! This has never happened in the history of mankind! What, is she supposed to tell the people that have forked over millions of dollars so that she can chase her dream, to buzz off, just because they want to do some mildly suggestive but mostly humorous commercials that show less skin than a kids show on Nickelodeon? I mean come on, get over yourself. I appreciate that she's just trying to do something that a woman has never done before, and that's be a successful Indycar/NASCAR driver, and I support her for that fact alone (and before you bring it up, I'm well aware of what Janet Guthrie, Lyn St. James, Sarah Fisher, and all the other previous women drivers have accomplished). And honestly, calling her a tramp because she does some commercials or poses in some magazines in a bikini or whatever, that's actually kinda sexist. Where were these people when Carl Edwards was posing shirtless in ESPN the magazine a few years back? Where are these people when Denny Hamlin's (obviously digitally enhanced) shirtless image pops up in the Toyota sponsifier commercials, with the implicit sexual overtones of a housewife's so-called "fantasy"? And would these people say the same thing if any other male driver appeared shirtless or semi-nude in any similar circumstances? The answer, NO. They wouldn't be labeled sluts, or tramps, or anything of that nature. That my friends is known as a double standard. She's probably not going to be lighting up the win column, but if she can manage to earn some respect, get top 10's on a regular or even semi-regular basis, and get to a point where she truly "deserves" her Cup ride, it could open the doors for a lot more female drivers in a profession that's dominated by men. And I'm talking about rides with top 20 teams, not field fillers or back-runners like a lot of other women are currently relegated to. Because like it or not, women drivers do not get the respect that they deserve, and therefore they aren't going to get rides they deserve, or the rides that a man of equal talent are getting. So busting these long-held prejudices would be quite an accomplishment if Danica can pull it off. She would be a hero to a great many girls out there. How can someone not support something like that in the 21st century? Don't hate the player, hate the game. The media is the only one to blame here. They're the ones creating unreasonable expectations coupled with excessive focus. I know this sounds crazy, but you'll know Danica has succeeded when she STOPS getting an inordinate amount of attention, because it will be at that point that she has become "just another driver" of which there is nothing out of the ordinary about seeing on track. I hope that day comes, I really do. This sport needs it. Think about it, what other major professional sport would have men and women regularly competing on the same level playing field, with the expectations of their career based solely on their talent and not their gender? If you can't see that this issue is bigger than just Danica herself, or furthering her marketability, or whatever other BS you want to dredge up, then you are pretty ignorant. 60. 00andJoe posted: 08.22.2011 - 4:33 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "00andJoe, when a car is stopped, spun, or hopelessly slow on a road course, the corner workers MUST wave a yellow (or blue as was the case in Montreal) flag to warn any oncoming drivers, if they see a car in that condition. They can not anticipate anything. If that car gets out of the way without incident, they can withdraw the yellow flag in that part of the track immediately, unless the sanctioning body running the race declares a caution flag for the entire course." 100% agreement here. There's no excuse for the cornerworkers sitting on their flags regardless of who was ultimately responsible - and even if they had, hypothetically, been told not to, they should have ignored those directions and done it anyway. "If NASCAR did indeed have nothing to do with them not throwin the caution in that part of the track immediately, those corner workers should be fired immediately and not allowed to work another race again, because that could very easily have ended in tragedy for one or more of those drivers." And CGV should at the very least improve its hiring of cornerworkers, or be told begone and good riddance. "Every time I see that Aaron's commercial with Reut and his daughter tells him that one day he'll be the official Aaron's spokesperson I always say to myself, "Not until Michael Waltrip dies."" You're operating on the assumption Zombie Waltrip won't keep making commercials! 61. John Royal posted: 08.22.2011 - 6:07 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Come on guys, do not over exaggerate. Even if Bayne would have blowed into Dufault, in worst case scenario only Dufault would have been hurt. Not Bayne. That was not the fastest part of the track and all the three cars managed to slow down quite a lot even in such short notice. Anyway you are already starting to brake in that area for upcoming turn. Two cars colliding dispatches the energy much more efficiently than hitting head on with concrete. We've seen a lot harder hits in Glen in last few years, and no one has got hurt. You underestimate the safety of these cars. But of course, its better that way. We've seen drivers die in similar situations, but every time it has been combination of much greater speeds and lesser safety systems. Also it was not any "magical save" of Bayne. Fortunately he was in the race groove that followed line around the Dufaults car. Actually he was the only driver to actually failed to dodge Dufault. The two other cars and one car before did much better job. Don't know if they had spotters there thou. 62. Peter posted: 08.22.2011 - 9:02 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) Great race marred by a ton of bonehead moves. What was JV thinking? he is a world champion dirver, that is just inexcusable. Steve Wallace is a good driver when he calms down, but that's the problem he is calm for 10 laps then he turns into a jackass. Where was the caution for Dufaults spin? which get off her back guys, she's used to driving cars vastly lighter then a Nationwide car, she's trying her best give her a break. Haven't you guys heard of taking your lumps? Big Big props to Tags he is so smooth in the car and quite possiably the nicest guy in racing, I'm convinced he can drive anything. Great to see Michael Mcdowell runnig well, he has a ton of talent but never get's to show it. Kick Kyle out and put Mike in that car Joe! Thank you Marcos, that was the most fun I've had watching someone drive in a long time! You are the king of road corses. 63. cjs3872 posted: 08.22.2011 - 9:28 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) M535I, yes there was a caution in between. About midway through the 1971 Indianapolis 500, there was a major crash just past pit entrance when Rick Muther's engine blew. He spun in the oil and collected David Hobbs, who was driving Penske's second car for that race. Muther's car nearly turned over. Al Unser, who would go on to win for the second straight year, was nearly collected in that incident as well. It was so serious that it appeared that flagman Pat Vidan might even throw the red flag, but he didn't. Actually, there were four major crashes in that race, not all of which involved race cars. Early in that race, when Krisiloff's engine blew entering turn three, he spun in the oil, and Mario Andretti, his teammate, along with Gordon Johncock and Mel Kenyon crashed. That was also the same race that saw Eldon Palmer crashed the pace car into a photograhper's stand at the start of the race, with Tony Hulman, astronaut John Glenn, and Chris Schenkel of ABC Sports aboard. and then you had the incident involving the five cars late in the race, three of which were parked. Incidentally, the spot where Mike Mosley and Bobby Unser hit the three parked cars was the same place where Dave MacDonald crashed in 1964, causing him to careen across the track, where his car, which exploded on impact, collided with the car of Eddie Sachs, whose car also exploded, as both cars were carrying about 75 gallons of gasoline. Both drivers died, Sachs was killed instanly, while MacDonald died about two hours after the crash. That angled wall would also be the same site of Swede Savage's horrific crash two years after the Unser-Mosley incident with the three parked cars, which would result in that area of the track being reconfigured, with the angled wall being This race, and all its incidents, are up on YouTube if you want to see them. John Royal, Bayne even thought he was going to die, saying so on his radio, so saying someone could have died is, in no way, and exaggeration, since he thought it was going to be him. And you mentioned that it was not a "magical" save on Bayne's part since he nicked Dufault's car with his right front. Remember, he was basically driving blind into that incident, since he was closely following another car. Not to mention the fact that his team did not provide him with a spotter in that part of the track (much like they haven't even attempted to provide him with a sponsor). So he really had no warning at all of what he was about to drive into, so yes I would call it a miracle that he didn't pile into either Dufault's car, or the car he was trailing. And no energy would be dissipated if one of the cars involved in a collision is stopped, as Dufault's car was. 64. NicoRosbergFan posted: 08.22.2011 - 5:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Deuce: Nice Argument. I will hold my views, but you have convinced me that that is one view not to discuss, cause {I did think Carl Edwards shirtless was disturbing, and am now afraid of someday seeing the Denny Hamlin ad. The biggest issue is that she also expects to be treated better than everyone else (see St. Pete 2010 and Loudon NNS last year). 65. Talon64 posted: 08.22.2011 - 5:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Marcos Ambrose picks up his 4th career Nationwide series win, all on road courses and his 1st in Montreal. He's now tied with Ron Fellows and Terry Labonte for the most road courses wins in NNS with 4. Alex Tagliani finishes 2nd in just his 3rd career Nationwide start, 2nd at Montreal. It's his best finish in any top-tier series since his only career Champ Car win at Road America in 2004 (but he won a NASCAR Canadian Tire Series race in 2008). Michael McDowell gets his best career Nationwide finish in 3rd, his first top 5 in 77 starts. But it's his 4th top 10 in 5 starts this year with JGR (8.2 avg fin). And that's after dominating Road America but throwing away the win and even a good result at the end. Steve Wallace finishes a career-best 4th in his 181st series start, just his 6th top 5. Interestingly his first career top 10 also came on a road course, Mexico City in 2008. It's his 3rd top 10 in the last 6 races after only having 2 in the first 18 races of the season. Canadian JR Fitzpatrick, for a Canadian-owned team in Go Canada Racing and in Canada, gets his first career top 5 finish in Nationwide (14 series starts). He's tied with fellow Canuck Ron Fellows for the most top 10's on the road courses since 2010 (6 races) with 4. Scott Speed finishes 6th in his first Nationwide start of the season, his 9th top 10 in 14 career starts. Carl Edwards gets his 5th straight top 10 finish and is now tied with teammate Ricky Stenhouse Jr. for the most this season with 17. With the #32's bad finish the #60 is up to 2nd in the owners points, but thanks to the #18 with McDowell finishing 3rd they're now 42 points out of the lead. Justin Allgaier picks up his first top 10 in the last 4 races and just his 4th in the 10 races since his Chicagoland win. Jason Leffler now has at least 10 top 10's in 5 consecutive seasons in Nationwide. But it's just his 3rd top 10 in the last 7 races. Elliott Sadler finishes 10th for a 2nd straight race, also his 3rd straight top 10 after going 3 straight without one previously. Timmy Hill was the highest finishing rookie in 22nd, getting just his 4th lead lap finish on the year. Mostly on the strength of his 11th place finish at Road America, Wise scored the 15th most points on the road courses this year. 66. DaleSrFanForever posted: 08.22.2011 - 6:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "You're operating on the assumption Zombie Waltrip won't keep making commercials!" Hell, Mikey is so in love with himself, I wouldn't be surprised at all if he signed up for some experimental program to prolong his life just so he can stay on TV. Considering how he has been exploiting Dale's death for his own benefit, anything is possible for that attention whore. 67. irony posted: 08.22.2011 - 11:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Deuce, there's a lot of narrow minded crap this country will never out grow. The fact that Nico fan is so young is discouraging. But the fact they're whining about something else other than that Danica didn't magically run on the lead lap in her first 10 NASCAR starts is an upgrade. 68. 00andJoe posted: 08.23.2011 - 4:28 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) #9 sponsor: Stanley/DeWalt Tools #60 sponsor: Fastenal/Metabo #87 sponsor: D.A.B. Constructors #53 sponsor: Quebec Dodge Dealers/Bollegraaf 69. Cooper posted: 08.23.2011 - 11:45 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "59. The Deuce posted: 08.22.11 - 4:04 am" Very good comment. I'm with you 110%. 70. The Deuce posted: 08.23.2011 - 6:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Thanks for the support, Cooper. After marrying a brilliant, truly empowered woman, and giving birth to an amazing little girl, I've been more sensitive to these kinds of issues. It's easy to overlook the persistent inequalities between genders, because it HAS gotten so much better over the years in so many areas, but every now and then you'll come across an issue like this where the same old prejudices keep bubbling up. For example, the people that consider Danica a tramp or a slut, and the people that place unfair prejudices on women drivers. And I know this isn't the proper place to go on about debating this type of issue, but auto racing is an interesting subset of the sports world, due to it's deep-rooted masculine nature. I'd say only football is comparable because there really is no women's football league or women's equivalent of the sport like with basketball, baseball, tennis, and so many others. But football and those other sports don't have what auto racing has, an environment where women can compete on the same playing field as men. When a woman wants to race NASCAR, she's entering into a very masculine world, and I hate to say this about the fanbase, but the traditional NASCAR fan as we know them, on average probably isn't going to be the most enlightened to the cause of feminism or the prejudices that women face on a sometimes daily basis. And it's not their fault either, it's the culture, the South has traditionally been more conservative and less open on this type of matter. But I think as a fan it's important to recognize the challenges that female drivers face in this environment, and how big of a deal it is to finally have one that is being trusted with a ride capable of winning races. 71. irony posted: 08.23.2011 - 10:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Gender stereotypes are among the worst, and work both ways depending on what aspect of life is in play. But let's be honest, Danica is the first female to come along that I would entrust with a top level ride. Simona is the 2nd, and is more talented than Danica in at least one category -- open wheel road racing. To say that Sarah Fisher is on the same level as either of them to me is laughable. 72. warredbertin posted: 08.25.2011 - 5:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) lizy, wie due yue poot awn and sokcpupet shoe awn evvry mesidge bored¿ iz their noe foarumb yue doa'nt poghpyuelait aul bie you'resellf¿ "After marrying a brilliant, truly empowered woman, and giving birth to an amazing little girl, I've been more sensitive to these kinds of issues.' ie reely hoap taht their's noe ctrate maghn aun erth hue taulckce lyke taht... ;/ 73. Anonymous posted: 08.26.2011 - 6:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Joe Nemechek's 87 car was sponsored in this race by D.A.B. Constructors as shown in this screenshot: http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/1305/87montreal.png 74. Daniel posted: 05.21.2012 - 12:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) In using fastest 43: #03 Jean-Francois Dumoulin, #21 Tim George Jr., #41 Tomy Drissi, #55 Brett Rowe Out using fastest 43: #28 Derrike Cope, #52 Louis-Philippe Dumoulin, #81 Maryeve Dufault, #89 Morgan Shepherd 75. Anonymous posted: 05.18.2013 - 3:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) i like how ambrose takes this win more important than his cup win a week ago at the glen 76. DW17 posted: 06.08.2013 - 10:54 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) how about "fitzie" finishing fifth! 77. Anthony posted: 07.21.2013 - 8:30 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) this race must be a record for drivers to the rear 78. Nascar Lead Lap Points posted: 04.24.2014 - 8:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Withdrew 49 Mark Green Jay Robinson Racing Jay Robinson Chevrolet 79. Nascar Lead Lap Points posted: 05.18.2014 - 6:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Owner of the #70 was Jay Robinson 80. Nascar Lead Lap Points posted: 08.22.2014 - 1:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Owner Update #70 Pat MacDonald (My Bad). There where using ML Motorsports number and points. 81. Nascar Lead Lap Points posted: 08.04.2015 - 5:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Owner Update #70 Pat MacDonald (Dufault was in the #81 car and they borrowed Robinson points to get him into the show) http://www.flagworld.com/photos/d/597372-2/2011-08-19_0302.JPG 82. Windows Millennium Edition posted: 03.13.2016 - 3:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Withdrew: WD|?|04|Go Green Racing|Archie St. Hilaire|Ford 83. RaceFanX posted: 10.01.2016 - 11:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This ended up being Ambrose's only victory during his NASCAR tenure that didn't come at Watkins Glen. 84. Nascar Lead Lap Points posted: 10.10.2016 - 11:38 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Under Qualifying Results Owen Kelly should be listed in the #9 not Ambrose Driver Changes #9 Owen Kelly Stanley/DeWalt Tools Ford Richard Petty Motorsports #16 Michel Jourdain, Jr. 3M Ford Jack Roush #60 Billy Johnson Fastenal/Metabo Ford Jack Roush #75 Chris Cook Alvin and the Chipmunks: Chipwrecked Ford Rick Ware #87 Kevin Conway D.A.B. Constructors Toyota Joe Nemechek 85. Jamie Delgado posted: 12.03.2018 - 8:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) WD- #04 Go Green Racing Ford (Archie St. Hilaire) #46 Key Motorsports Chevy (Curtis Key) #47 Key Motorsports Chevy (Curtis Key) #82 Daystar.com Dodge (Pat MacDonald) 86. BodyBlower posted: 11.22.2019 - 2:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) The No.04 for Go Green Racing, The No.46 and No.47 cars for Key Motorsports and the No.82 for McDonald Motorsports were all entered but all withdrew without announcing a driver. 87. SweetRich posted: 07.07.2020 - 9:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) After an absence of almost fifteen years, this race marked the return of Richard Petty to The Nationwide Series. The team was named Richard Petty Motorsports as Petty Enterprises closed up shop in 2008. 88. SweetRich posted: 07.09.2020 - 5:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The final career Nationwide Series race for J.R. Fitzpatrick. 89. SweetRich21/43 posted: 07.31.2020 - 11:23 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) The commentators were Marty Reid, Rusty Wallace and Ricky Craven. The pit road reporters were Shannon Spake, Jim Noble and Rick DeBruhl. 90. BlueOval posted: 01.20.2021 - 7:41 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Steve Wallace had his hair pulled by a member of Carpentier's crew after the race. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Post a comment:* Your comment may not appear immediately - all comments must be approved by the moderator. Name: Comment: