|| *Comments on the 2013 VFW Sport Clips Help a Hero 200:* View the most recent comment <#136> | Post a comment <#post> 1. h bomb posted: 05.10.2013 - 5:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wow Gibbs cars 1-2-3-4. 2. Paul posted: 05.10.2013 - 5:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The #54 car had its nose confiscated before qualifying, and more JGR penalties are expected within the next week. I'm suspicious about the legitimacy of JGR's 1-2-3-4 sweep of the first two rows. Brian Scott's car had some sort of engine issue during qualifying, resulting in his slow time. His teammate Ty Dillon nearly ran into the pit wall while coming down pit road after his qualifying lap. 3. Dave#38 Fan-Go Gilliland! posted: 05.10.2013 - 5:42 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Gibbs car lined up 1-4 and Busch on the pole? Yawn. Maybe I'll watch a movie tonight and get back on here in the morning and see how many laps Busch leads en route to victory while the highest non-cup guy finishes 5th or 6th. 4. David posted: 05.10.2013 - 5:44 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Derrike Cope goes home. Darn. 5. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.10.2013 - 6:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yay, another night of Cup guys dominating the NWide race. Just have to see how the race goes for Regan Smith and Alex "The Real Deal" Bowman by the ticker, cause BSPN won't talk about them. 6. We need more Onion posted: 05.10.2013 - 6:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Nationwide Darlington... one of the most predictable races of the year... zzZZZzz. In the last 6 years, there was one NNS Darlington race I did not want to forget, but Todd got 4th there, so my opinion on that race is probably invalid. 7. murb posted: 05.10.2013 - 6:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This is gonna be painful... 8. Baker posted: 05.10.2013 - 6:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) All 4 cars were almost a full mph faster than the 5th place guy too. Has any team ever swept the first two rows? 9. The Long Shot posted: 05.10.2013 - 6:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yes: Hendrick Motorsports swept the first two rows at the 2011 Aaron's 499 at Talladega. 10. Kenny posted: 05.10.2013 - 6:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) You all know me so there's no point in me talking more ill come back when the race starts :) 11. David posted: 05.10.2013 - 6:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Has any team ever swept the first two rows?" In Cup, Hendrick Motorsports (your favorite team) swept the first and second rows in the 2011 spring Talladega race. 12. Daniel posted: 05.10.2013 - 6:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) In using fastest 40: #47 Jason Bowles Out using fastest 40: #70 Tony Raines Who's fielding the #70 when Mary Louise Miller isn't? In the past it has Jay Robinson but I thought he had shut his team down. 13. The Great Dave posted: 05.10.2013 - 6:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "The #54 car had its nose confiscated before qualifying, and more JGR penalties are expected within the next week. I'm suspicious about the legitimacy of JGR's 1-2-3-4 sweep of the first two rows." Part of me secrtly wonders if NASCAR is doin that to get back at Gibbs after there appeal :P Naaaaah 14. The Long Shot posted: 05.10.2013 - 6:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) According to Wikipedia (citing Catchfence.com as a source), ML Motorsports has an alliance with NEMCO Motorsports, which in turn has combined efforts with Jay Robinson Racing. 15. Dave#38 Fan-Go Gilliland! posted: 05.10.2013 - 6:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jay Robinson merged his team with Joe Nemechek's team, so I think the #70 is a second car for the #87 team this week, at Bristol Robinson said on the teams facebook page that they were fielding both the #87 of Nemechek and the #70 with Brad Teague. 16. The Great Dave posted: 05.10.2013 - 6:48 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I interrupt your regularly scheduled KB Bitch Fest to bring you Sponsor updates! #5 Great Clips / Great Stuff #7 Hellman's 100th Anniv/ BI-LO #17 Keller Williams / What's your one thing? #24 JW Demolition / SR2 #51 USS James E Williams DDG 95 #73 Country Hearth Inn & Suites 17. murb posted: 05.10.2013 - 7:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "The surface is changing dramastically." - Kyle Busch 18. ch posted: 05.10.2013 - 7:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yep, NEMCO and JRR merged in the offseason. In the NW Series, the old (and somewhat decent) NEMCO cars are used as the #87, and the old JRR snails are used when ML doesn't attempt the race in the #70. 19. jabber1990 posted: 05.10.2013 - 7:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) is that infamous minnow pond still there? 20. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.10.2013 - 7:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Its there, but they took away a big part of it to install a helipad. 21. Schroeder51 posted: 05.10.2013 - 7:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I honestly anticipate Kyle leading this race flag-to-flag. 22. JG24FanForever posted: 05.10.2013 - 7:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I honestly anticipate Kyle leading this race flag-to-flag." Yes! 23. Baker posted: 05.10.2013 - 7:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Talladega obviously counts in the record books, but as far as I am concerned it is really not that impressive. Anyone with a brain can run a fast lap there. See Patrick, Danica 2013 Daytona 500. Has it every happened at a track where it actually takes talent to wheel a car? 24. Schroeder51 posted: 05.10.2013 - 7:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bryan Silas into the wall. 25. The Long Shot posted: 05.10.2013 - 8:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Anyone with a brain can run a fast lap there. See Patrick, Danica 2013 Daytona 500." If she had a brain, you'd think she would use it more than once. 26. joey2448 posted: 05.10.2013 - 8:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm not sure who it was, but either Trevor Bayne or Bryan Silas sounded like a woman on the radio after that incident, haha. 27. Kenny posted: 05.10.2013 - 8:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The race has already started Lmfao @ #16 XD 28. JG24FanForever posted: 05.10.2013 - 8:06 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Talladega obviously counts in the record books, but as far as I am concerned it is really not that impressive." It's the ability to draft and work traffic for 500 miles that makes it special. And Talladega is just an awesome race-track. 29. Schroeder51 posted: 05.10.2013 - 8:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) McClure in the wall. 30. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.10.2013 - 8:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Eric McClure just crashed, darn. 31. jabber1990 posted: 05.10.2013 - 8:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ...so when a driver you dont like does well at a plate track you destroy plate racing? when a driver you do like does well at a plate track you swear by plate racing? 32. JG24FanForever posted: 05.10.2013 - 8:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) *It's difficult enough at most races to survive the event,but Talladega and Daytona have to be the toughest races to even get to the finish. 33. Kenny posted: 05.10.2013 - 8:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) AD plz 34. jabber1990 posted: 05.10.2013 - 8:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I have thought about this are NASCAR fans the most loyal and most deadicated fans in sports we get so much critism for following our sport, and yet we still continue to watch it, and we even defend it! 35. joey2448 posted: 05.10.2013 - 8:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) All right, the Mayor in the broadcast booth tonight! What a treat! 36. Kenny posted: 05.10.2013 - 8:20 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Yes NASCAR is like heavy metal those that are fans on eather or both are VERY loyal(specly metal heads well live and die for this music) 37. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.10.2013 - 8:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The Larson vs Bowman battle of newcomers reminds me so much of Logano vs Keselowski in '08 and '09. Logano and Larson have the hype and the great motors, Bowman and Kes have the lesser equipment (initially) and do more with less. 38. loomer posted: 05.10.2013 - 8:31 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) The Mayor has a future as an analyst when he retires. He's at least way better than Carl 39. murb posted: 05.10.2013 - 8:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "The Mayor has a future as an analyst when he retires. He's at least way better than Carl" I remember he did a few IROC races back in the day, and he was always great. I'd love to see him move to an analyst career when he's done driving. 40. jabber1990 posted: 05.10.2013 - 8:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) how would Jeff Gordon do in the booth? my mother would love to see him do television after he retires, hell shes upset that he didn't get the co-chair on Kelly Ripas show. he has the confidence that would be great for television and my mother doesnt like Jeff Gordon, or Kelly Ripa 41. loomer posted: 05.10.2013 - 8:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That's right murb. I somewhat remember him doing some IROC races(I was pretty young then). He has a little BP in him, which is great. 42. joey2448 posted: 05.10.2013 - 8:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Another good game brewing between the Bulls and the Heat...GO BULLS!!! 43. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.10.2013 - 8:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 5.5 Million viewers for the rain delay portion of the FOX coverage, basically watching the Waltrip Clown Show, shows just how loyal NASCAR fans are. 44. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.10.2013 - 8:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) In comparison, the Indycar RACE got 244,000 viewers. 45. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.10.2013 - 8:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Doesn't NASCAR have minimum speed rules? Some of these lap cars are essentially mobile chicanes. 46. Peter posted: 05.10.2013 - 8:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!! I have to stop watching Nationwide races with Kyle or more than two cup drivers, 'cause this is just getting sad 47. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.10.2013 - 8:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Nationwide Series 'Competition' Director should be fired. Almost as bad as Grand Am's. 48. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.10.2013 - 8:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) So they are losing 10-11 mph per lap over a good part of a run. I agree with Andy, next year, The Lady will be fully back. 49. JG24FanForever posted: 05.10.2013 - 8:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I have to stop watching Nationwide races with Kyle or more than two cup drivers, 'cause this is just getting sad" Being a Kyle fan would solve your miseries:) 50. Kenny posted: 05.10.2013 - 8:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Where is Austin? 51. Peter posted: 05.10.2013 - 8:51 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Being a Kyle fan would solve your miseries:) It will be a cold day in hell before that happens 52. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.10.2013 - 8:57 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) Pretty disgraceful to see how far NASCAR has let the Nationwide series fall. 53. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.10.2013 - 8:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gibbs 1 2 3 4. 54. joey2448 posted: 05.10.2013 - 8:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "In comparison, the Indycar RACE got 244,000 viewers." That's because the damn races are on NBCSports network! Luckily I have that channel, but not many others do... 55. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.10.2013 - 9:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Joey, NBC Sports has just as many household viewers as SPEED. ARCA races usually get 500-600k viewers on SPEED. 56. Schroeder51 posted: 05.10.2013 - 9:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Fowler crashes. 57. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.10.2013 - 9:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Turn 1 at Darlington claims another victim. 58. Matt L posted: 05.10.2013 - 9:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I wonder what it will take for Joe Gibbs Racing to lose its dominance in the Nationwide series. They've been incredible since 2007, untouchable even with the car change. 59. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.10.2013 - 9:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I, too, am pulling for the Bulls. If that badly depleted team takes out the stacked Heat, it would be so awesome. Hopefully, even if Miami wins, the Bulls will rough them up really good and weaken them. 60. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.10.2013 - 9:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hendrick and Childress have pulled back their efforts. RCR was the team to beat 2006-2007. That Holiday Inn car in 2007 and Harvick in 06 really were unstoppable. It will take another cup team investing in their Nationwide program to the level that Gibbs is doing to stop their dominance. 61. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.10.2013 - 9:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And of course no Roush/Carl in the 60 anymore. 62. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.10.2013 - 9:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And that's the race... 63. Peter posted: 05.10.2013 - 9:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) COME ON ELLIOTT!!!!! 64. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.10.2013 - 9:15 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) The "famed #3" just got roughed up. Richard, why are you doing this to Austin and the rest of us? 65. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.10.2013 - 9:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I hope Kenseth gets 4th just to seal the deal on how big of a joke the 'competition' is in this series. 66. murb posted: 05.10.2013 - 9:19 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Congratulations to Elliott Sadler on his first NNS win of the year, and congrats to Kyle Busch on yet another Preliminary Cup Series win this year. 67. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.10.2013 - 9:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Qualifying: 1 2 3 4 Race: 1 2 3 5 Nationwide Series Excitement 68. Schroeder51 posted: 05.10.2013 - 9:21 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) REALLY glad I didn't have to pay money to watch THAT in person... 69. Matt L posted: 05.10.2013 - 9:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I wonder if it is even practical to be a Nationwide team anymore. Turner-Scott seems to be the only competitive Nationwide team. Besides Turner, the #77 KBM car and #99 RAB car are the only other Nationwide teams that finished on the lead lap. 70. murb posted: 05.10.2013 - 9:22 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Nationwide Series Excitement" Preliminary Cup Series Excrement 71. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.10.2013 - 9:22 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Only the Nationwide Series could make Darlington look boring. Such a shame Trucks don't race here anymore. 72. Peter posted: 05.10.2013 - 9:22 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) Maybe if he put this much effort into cup he would be a champion be now! 73. joey2448 posted: 05.10.2013 - 9:23 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Ha! Here's a tweet from Terry Blount: "Kyle Busch wins the Nationwide race at Darlington. In related news, the Human Torch won a flame-throwing contest with Frosty the Snowman." 74. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.10.2013 - 9:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think in terms of the career itself, not the man, we'll be looking back at Kyle Busch's career as very similar to that of Mark Martin. 75. murb posted: 05.10.2013 - 9:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Glad I missed most of this one. I had it on in the background as I watched YouTube videos. The only good part of this race was having Jeff Burton (one of my favorites) in the booth for a little while. 76. 13 posted: 05.10.2013 - 9:30 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) My favorite driver is out of championship contention so probably wont watch nationwide again until Iowa maybe its just terribly boring to watch the same team dominate and win almost every week and hear commentators say its so damn great that a cup driver with the best team to ever exist in nationwide won 77. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.10.2013 - 9:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Charlotte will probably be the most boring Nationwide race of the season, even worse than Phoenix. Charlotte has always sucked for these cars. 78. joey2448 posted: 05.10.2013 - 9:32 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Of course the official twitter account of NASCAR posts a picture of Kyle Busch with a counter that reads "112 wins" and counting...I don't think any respectable NASCAR fan considers Busch a 112-time winner in NASCAR. More like 26 (Cup series). 79. Ed posted: 05.10.2013 - 9:35 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Can NASCAR please ban Kyle Busch from competing in Nationwide altogether? You only see this shit in NASCAR, and only because NASCAR makes it possible for them to run both. 80. SlicedSmoke14 posted: 05.10.2013 - 9:36 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) I miss the days where Nationwide regulars dominated this series. Might of been way back when this series was called the Busch Grand National Series. 81. Baker posted: 05.10.2013 - 9:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (10) Kyle Larson ran clean and fast all night long while Alex "the unreal deal" Bowman was no where to be found at any point in the entire race. 82. JG24FanForever posted: 05.10.2013 - 9:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I don't think any respectable NASCAR fan considers Busch a 112-time winner in NASCAR. More like 26 (Cup series)." He's a: 56 time Busch series/Nationwide series winner 30 time Truck series winner 26 time Cup series winner Even without hyperbole,that is an impressive tally of wins. Richard Petty won races in the 60's and 70's that were anything but competitive in Nascar's premiere series compared to what Kyle had to beat tonight. Kyle whipped Kenseth in equal cars tonight for example. Please don't hate me!:( 83. Cornys posted: 05.10.2013 - 9:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Brian Vickers made a nice come back after that unscheduled pit-stop and Elliot Sadler also made a nice come back after his spin early. Not much excitement at the front, but some pretty good racing towards the middle of the field. Good run my Kyle Larson who I actually like unlike the majority of you guys ;) 84. Cornys posted: 05.10.2013 - 9:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) *by* Kyle Larson 85. cjs3872 posted: 05.10.2013 - 9:46 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Surprise, surprise, Kye Busch and JGR with their insane horsepower advantage wins another one, as Kyle led a JGR 1-2-3-5, and if not for ex-JGR driver Joey Logano, who by the way, is pretty good at Darlington, they would have finished 1-2-3-4, just like they qualified. If something isn't done about their horsepower advantage, nobody else is going to win a race that Kyle Busch is in on a non-RP track more than 1 mile in length that he competes in. Also, Regan Smith extends his points lead, and in a series that doesn't have a Chase, if he continues to finish fifth, sixth, seventh, like he usually does when the Cup drivers are competing, and doesn't have much trouble the rest of the season, it's going to be hard to catch him, as the number of legitimate challengers continue to dwindle, as Hornish, Sadler, and Vickers may be the only ones left with a chance to challenge Smith for the title. And is it me, or did Trevor Bayne's incident with Bryan Silas shw that he's pressing a bit too much, because it look to me that he's pressing too much. A major horsepower deficit and having the cars not set up to his liking, when combined with what Bayne had to replace in that #6 NNS car, and it appears that Bayne has finally begun to press, because that incident was not like him at all. Again, when a driver presses like that, it tells me that something may be about to happen with that team, because when a driver presses, he does things that are unnatural to him. Also, Kyle Larson proved again why so many are so high on him, finishing sixth in his Darlington debut. However, he had a little dust-up with Matt Kensetyh late in th race, though it looked like whn Larson aggressively passed Keneth, that he nver touched him and actually turned left to avoid hitting Kenseth, though Kenseth did no take too kindly to that move in turn one. I still think he can win at least once and finish in the top five in the points this year. He'll just have to win one of the races that Kye Busch doesn't run, because he doesn't figure to have much chance in any of the races Kyle Busch does run, just like anyone else, esecially on the big tracks where horsepower matters. 86. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.10.2013 - 9:47 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) 1993 Busch Grand National Series Schedule: 12/28 Standalone races: 43% 2003 Busch Series 9/34 Standalone races: 26% 2013 Nationwide Series: 6/33 Standalone races: 18%. Two of these are at Generic 1.5 milers that Cup already races at. This is one of the major problems. Also, for anyone who talks the B.S. Line that NASCAR Companion races for Nationwide usually get higher attendance/better crowds than Nationwide races at tracks don't have Cup dates I can disprove that argument in under 5 minutes. 87. Paul posted: 05.10.2013 - 9:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I wouldn't say I missed this race, but I didn't watch it on TV. Pretty predictable result as JGR won practice with Brian Vickers, swept the first two rows in qualifying, and finished in four of the first five positions in the race, with Kyle Busch winning the latter two. It's a shame that JGR doesn't put this much effort into their Cup operation, as they might have seriously contended for more than one Cup championship in the last seven seasons if they had. Both Roush cars completely sucked in this race. I didn't see what, if anything, happened to Pastrana that resulted in his poor 28th place finish, but I was listening to MRN for about half the race and I heard that Trevor Bayne bounced off the wall twice in a 2 or 3 lap span on that final green flag run, resulting in his 32nd place finish. I'm a big fan of his, but he doesn't deserve a full-time Cup ride next season with how poor he has been running as of late. The chemistry between he and Mike Kelley is non-existent and Bayne's not getting the job done behind the wheel. He needs at least one more year of Nationwide as far as I'm concerned. And to put the icing on the cake, Bayne not only fell out of the top ten in points, but is now in 12th place behind Mike Bliss in a car that is seldom sponsored. Solid 12th place run for Chris Buescher tonight, and I hope that he (along with his cousin) gets a full-time Nationwide ride next season. That's gotta hurt for Roush, but at least his Cup team is doing pretty well. I'm also gonna go out on a limb and say that Regan Smith is your 2013 Nationwide Series champion, which I am DEFINITELY excited about (I guess JRM's cars suddenly got better during the offseason ;) ). He has the second best Nationwide PEER, and is ranked 1st among Nationwide drivers with a 4.250 PEER. I truly think that Hornish is finished, as his average finish fell from 3.2 in the first five races to 18.5 in the last four races, including having a PEER of 0.167 in the three races before this one, crashing in two of the last three races. Hornish's PEER was merely "serviceable" the past two seasons, and while I'm not sure if his PEER will fall all the way into the 1.000-1.999 range, I do think he has fallen back to Earth as of late, and is likely to stay there. 88. Paul posted: 05.10.2013 - 9:59 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) "Kyle Larson ran clean and fast all night long while Alex "the unreal deal" Bowman was no where to be found at any point in the entire race." The "unreal deal," as you say, is ahead of your precious USAC driver by 10 points, driving for a far less competitive, single-car team. Bowman also has a PEER of 2.000 (fringe title contender) and a top 15 efficiency of +10.2%, whereas Larson's PEER is only 1.563 (serviceable) and a top 15 efficiency of -8.5%. So using an edited version of a famous Marty Schottenheimer quote (who I'm sure you, as a Browns fan, know a lot about) that he used directed towards Jerry Glanville: Go and take your USAC loving and "the unreal deal" name-calling attitude and stick it straight up your ass, Baker! 89. David posted: 05.10.2013 - 10:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Bowman also has a PEER of 2.000 (fringe title contender) and a top 15 efficiency of +10.2%, whereas Larson's PEER is only 1.563 (serviceable) and a top 15 efficiency of -8.5%." Prior to tonight, of course. 90. Matt L posted: 05.10.2013 - 10:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Some people were giving Sam Hornish Jr. the championship trophy a month ago, I'd wait a little while before taking it back and giving it to Regan Smith. As for the top 30 - Landon Cassill moved the #4 back into the top 30, tied for 28th with the Tri-Star #44 and Mike Harmon's #74. The ML Motorsports/JRR #70 falls out of the top 30, joining the #92 and #00 on the outside looking in. The #55 Viva Motorsports team and #15 Rick Ware Racing team are both out of contention for not attempting tonight's race. 91. Baker posted: 05.10.2013 - 10:05 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Paul, You numbers don't mean jack. Kyle Larson has more talent in one arm than Bowman and he knows it. He pushes his cars twice as hard as Bowman. With this stupid point system it is not all that hard to stay ahead of someone in points who has a few wrecks. A bad race hurts much more than a good race helps under the current point system and that fits the conservative guys like Bowman much better. Like I said in previous post you are all forgetting how many cars Ricky Stenhouse wrecked before he became a 2 time champion. When Larson figures out how to ride that line without crossing it he is going to be hard to beat. 92. murb posted: 05.10.2013 - 10:11 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) There's no denying Kyle Larson's driving ability and potential, but there's also no denying Alex Bowman's driving ability and potential in slightly shittier equipment. 93. Paul posted: 05.10.2013 - 10:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Prior to tonight, of course." Duh. "You numbers don't mean jack." Yeah, why bother bringing facts and evidence into a conversation comparing two young NASCAR drivers battling for Rookie of the Year. Let's just always pick the reckless driver because being reckless means you're more talented. Larson may be more naturally talented, but the numbers show that Bowman is better in these cars right now. I know you probably don't want to hear that, but that's what the numbers show. In equal equipment, Bowman's production was about 0.5 better than Larson's prior to this race. It doesn't mean he's more naturally talented, but it does mean that he's outperformed Larson this season. If Bowman, who has outperformed and out-pointed Larson in inferior equipment this season (Larson is also 51 points behind teammate Justin Allgaier), is "the unreal deal," then that means that Kyle Larson has been outperformed and out-pointed in the standings on a better team than a driver who isn't all that good. What does that say about Larson? 94. Anonymous posted: 05.10.2013 - 10:30 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) 0 laps led by Nationwide drivers 95. Paul posted: 05.10.2013 - 10:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "0 laps led by Nationwide drivers" Jeremy Clements, Tony Raines, and Hal Martin aren't Nationwide drivers? Joking of course. I assume you either meant "competitive Nationwide drivers" or "0 green flag laps led by Nationwide drivers"; either of which would be correct. 96. David posted: 05.10.2013 - 10:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Duh." Someone had to say it, why not it be the "Nazi fact-checker"? "Yeah, why bother bringing facts and evidence into a conversation comparing two young NASCAR drivers battling for Rookie of the Year. Let's just always pick the reckless driver because being reckless means you're more talented. Larson may be more naturally talented, but the numbers show that Bowman is better in these cars right now. I know you probably don't want to hear that, but that's what the numbers show. In equal equipment, Bowman's production was about 0.5 better than Larson's prior to this race. It doesn't mean he's more naturally talented, but it does mean that he's outperformed Larson this season." Somehow I knew Baker wasn't the type to buy into advanced statistics. "When Larson figures out how to ride that line without crossing it he is going to be hard to beat." Shouldn't that be a skill he's learned by now? Or at least partially learned? 97. ch posted: 05.10.2013 - 10:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsor Changes: 00 - Compassion International / Daystar 01 - Mac's Pride Peaches 6 - Cargill Certified Ground Beef 23 - Triad Golf Carts / Sterling Builders Group 24 - SR2 Motorsports 31 - Wolfpack Rentals / AccuDoc Solutions 33 - Armour / Hungry Man / Bi-Lo 40 - The Motorsports Group 42 - The Motorsports Group 46 - The Motorsports Group 98. David posted: 05.10.2013 - 10:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Oh, and for the record, Ricky Stenhouse earned a -0.313 PEER in the Nationwide Series in 2010, with a crash frequency of 0.44. 99. ch posted: 05.10.2013 - 11:00 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Just noticed this, but it appears that the 'owner' for the #98 team of Biagi-Denbeste Racing has once again been changed to Mike Curb, who has ABSOLUTELY NO RELATIONSHIP to the team. The owner of that team for ALL of its attempts should be Fred Biagi. 100. 13 posted: 05.10.2013 - 11:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hearing rumors from twitter that Trevor Bayne might have some changes to the team over the break, If they change crew chief who would be a good crew chief to work with a conservative driver like Trevor? 101. Paul posted: 05.10.2013 - 11:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Someone had to say it, why not it be the "Nazi fact-checker"?" That's why I gave you the nickname, because I knew you would live up to it. ;) It might be a bit harsh and a better nickname will likely be considered, but for now I kinda like it. "Shouldn't that be a skill he's learned by now? Or at least partially learned?" From what I've seen, Larson is a total crap shoot on a week-to-week basis. One week he's contending for top five finishes and racing alongside Cup drivers, the next he's wrecking himself and sometimes endangering others on the track. His nickname should be "Box o' Chocolates" because you never know what you're gonna get from him. "Ricky Stenhouse earned a -0.313 PEER in the Nationwide Series in 2010" Speaking of Stenhouse and how he improved in his second and third Nationwide seasons from his ugly rookie campaign, I do find it interesting that he won as many races in 34 starts in 2011 as David Ragan had in 19 starts in 2009, all for the same #6 team (including Mike Kelley as crew chief for both teams). And the reason why I think his 2010 PEER was so low was because he was taking over for a driver who had a couple wins and only four finishes outside the top ten. Stenhouse's PEER would have been low regardless, but because he and his reckless habits replaced a driver who had a very productive season the year before, it resulted in an ugly negative sign in front of an already horrendous rating. "If they change crew chief who would be a good crew chief to work with a conservative driver like Trevor?" Maybe Seth Barbour, who worked with Trevor once this year and has done a pretty good job with the part-time #16 team. If Roush could somehow lure Mike Beam away from Red Horse Racing and back into his stable for next season, that would be great as well. The second scenario is unlikely to happen because while Roush has always been good at obtaining talent and sponsors, he's never been very good at retaining them, especially once they've gone and left, which Beam did after the 2011 season. 102. David posted: 05.10.2013 - 11:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "It might be a bit harsh and a better nickname will likely be considered, but for now I kinda like it." Well, I'm not exactly part of a master plan to take over the world (though I do have blonde hair and blue eyes, so I guess I'm the master race, haha), but I do pride myself on getting it right whenever I can. I'm glad I didn't deeply offend anyone during our "five years" dispute earlier. 103. David posted: 05.10.2013 - 11:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm kind of scared to see what Kyle Busch's PEER will be after it is updated. 104. 83andJoe posted: 05.11.2013 - 1:55 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) >NBC Sports has just as many household viewers as SPEED. Nope. On both Dish and DirecTV, NBCSN is a package 'higher up the ladder' than SPEED is. 105. Rusty posted: 05.11.2013 - 6:56 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) This was probably the worst Darlington race I can remember. Not just because Kyle Busch dominated, but the race itself wasn't interesting and severly lacked any real dramatic moments. 106. Talon64 posted: 05.11.2013 - 7:02 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "If Bowman, who has outperformed and out-pointed Larson in inferior equipment this season (Larson is also 51 points behind teammate Justin Allgaier), is "the unreal deal," then that means that Kyle Larson has been outperformed and out-pointed in the standings on a better team than a driver who isn't all that good. What does that say about Larson?" It says that a driver in only his 2nd season of stock cars has a lot of room to grow in a style of car that he's inexperienced in. I've said it before, but I wouldn't be surprised if Larson's season ended up looking something like this: http://www.racing-reference.info/drivdet/gordoje01/1991/B For what it's worth, Larson's been smoking Piquet Jr. Actually, everyone's been smoking him and it's kind of alarming how uncompetitive Piquet's been to start the year. 107. I Have A Man Crush On Kyle Larson posted: 05.11.2013 - 7:03 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Larson with a great 6th place effort, competing with the top diz-awgs. 108. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.11.2013 - 7:36 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Personally, I see Kyle as "the guy who folds the fastest of anyone I have ever seen under pressure". How can such a "winning" driver have such trouble just MAKING the damn playoffs. And when he does get in, he is never anywhere near the front of the points by midway. Enjoy wearing yourself out in these races Kyle while JJ sits in his air conditioned motorcoach and hauler, resting his body and conferencing with his CUP engineers. 109. cjs3872 posted: 05.11.2013 - 7:48 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) The thing with Alex Bowman last night is that all he wanted to do was to finish the race and to do so without incident, so I think he acomplished what he wanted to. There were also reports that he was having some kind of engine problem last night, and those two things combined were probably the reason he stayed in the back of the lead lap most of the race. And of for Roush's Nationwide team, which Rusty correctly called weak after the race last night, mainly because of a weak group of drivers and the horsepower deficit they're at, it's no surprise there may be a change at crew chief with the #6 team. Remember that before the season started, I compared the situation regarding crew chief Mike Kelley to what Jeff Hammond experienced in 1987 when Darrell Waltrip was replaced by Terry Labonte, and Hammond did not especially like Labonte's conservative nature and about a quarter of the way through that season, Hammond rejoined Waltrip at Hendrick Motorsports. But there's something else regarding Roush. Kyle Petty, never one to hide what he believes, said in a roundabout way that he doesn't think Roush gives his drivers everything they need to win, and I think he's directing that at the engine department because they've always been known for conservative engine setups because Roush has almost never been at the top of the food chain when it comes to horsepower. 110. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.11.2013 - 8:28 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) 83and Joe, that's still irrelevant as NBC Sports has within a million nearly EXACTLY the same number of households with it as SPEED channel. 80 million vs 79 million. 111. startandparkfan posted: 05.11.2013 - 9:10 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ugh. 112. CBASS posted: 05.11.2013 - 10:06 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsor updates #11 SportClips Haircuts #18 Injustice: Gods Among Us/ GameStop #7 Hellmann's Happy 100 Years/ BI-LO #16 Boston Strong/ OneFundBoston.org #33 Armour Vienna Sausages/ BI-LO #00 Compassion/ SupportMilitary.org 113. David posted: 05.11.2013 - 10:31 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Major PEER changes after this race: - Alex Bowman drops from 2.000 (ranked eighth) to 1.806 (ranked seventh). - Kyle Larson increases from 1.563 (ninth) to 1.778 (eighth). - Brian Scott increases from 0.625 (21st) to 1.500 (eleventh). - Trevor Bayne drops from 1.188 (T-14) to 0.722 (T-20). - Joe Nemechek drops from 1.188 (T-14) to 0.056 (25th). 114. Paul posted: 05.11.2013 - 11:08 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) David Smith said it best regarding Kyle Busch's predictable win in this race: "[It's] like a major leaguer pitching a no-no against little leaguers." Dominant victory, no doubt about it, but largely unimpressive given his talent and magnificent equipment. Now if he could be half as dominant in his own equipment, that would be impressive. But he couldn't even win in KBM equipment last year, while two of his drivers did, so perhaps he is equipment dependent. The apparent heirs to the #3 and #6 Cup cars have both fallen to replacement level PEER. That's disheartening. 115. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.11.2013 - 11:20 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Dillons: Extremely Overrated It pains me to say this as an RCR fan. 116. cjs3872 posted: 05.11.2013 - 11:43 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) Paul, I wonder if one of the reasons for JGR's hirings of Matt Kenseth and Eliott Sadler had as much to do with weakening the teams they were with last year asmuch as it did strengthening their own team. We all know that the hiring of Kenseth from Roush took a potential mentor from Ricky Stenhouse, Jr. and Trevor Bayne, but it also meant that Roush lost a lot of knowledge about setting up the cars, and could it be that Roush is struggling from a car setup point of view with Kenseth now gone? I say that because the setups for both he Nationwide and Cup Series seem to be off for the Roush teams, and it shows in Greg Biffle's lack of performance and the seeming collapse of the Nationwide team. Perhaps Kenseth's knowledge about setting up cars was a more mportant factor than everyone else, myself included, though for both of Roush's programs. Also, of all the drivers over at Roush last year, Kenseth was the one driver who drives the way Trevor Bayne does, but you look at the driver line-up over there now, and Bayne sticks out like a sore thumb because his driving style is not like any of the other drivers over there, and the same can be said about the kind of set-up he prefers over the set-ups that the other drivers like, and part of the problem I'm hearing over there has to do with disagreemants over car set up. Bayne was going backwards even before his run-in with Bryan Silas, having dropped to 11th place, and he was about to lose that spot to Joey Logano, so he was in trouble even before the incident that set off his bad night. And as for the Elliott Sadler angle to this, his veteran leadership was just what RCR needed to guide Austin Dillon, and his loss my be more important to RCR's Nationwide team than I thought it would be. After all, Sadler was like a mentor to Austin Dillon, and with him gone, the RCR Nationwide program also seems like a rutterless ship. And of course, making things even worse for RCR is the fact that Brian Scott was brought in to replace Sadler, and Scott couldn't even produce in Gibbs' superior cars. So what Joe Gibbs has done is to not only strengthen his own team with the two additions he made this past off-season, but dramatically weaken the teams he raided in the process. 117. 83andJoe posted: 05.11.2013 - 12:10 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) >So what Joe Gibbs has done is to not only strengthen his own team with the two additions he made this past off-season, but dramatically weaken the teams he raided in the process. Done like a true football coach, you might say, even. 118. Kubica fan Ireland posted: 05.11.2013 - 12:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Second 1 2 3 for jgr in nationwide 119. cjs3872 posted: 05.11.2013 - 12:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And not just any football coach 83andJoe, but truly one of the greatest ever. In fact, in his era, he was the best, bar none. Better than Walsh, Shula, Ditka, Parcells, Levy, Reeves, Schottenheimer, and others. Better than all of them. and the thing about it was that Gibbs won no matter what kind of team he had, because his three Super Bowl winning teams each had a different personality and each had a different quarterback. Yet they all had the same brain calling the shots on the sidelines, so it should be no surprise that Gibbs has also flourished with so many different types of drivers, from low-key guys like Bobby Labonte and now Matt Kenseth, to high-strung guys like Tony Stewart and Kyle Busch, to guys in the middle of the emotion scale, such as Dale Jarrett and Denny Hamlin. Gibbs has won champinships with two of those drivers and should have won a championship with Denny Hamlin, and might win one this year with Matt Kenseth. And if Kenseth does win the championship, he'll join Dale Earnhardt, Terry Labonte, and most recently, Stewart, as drivers that have won championships with more than one team in the modern era. 120. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.11.2013 - 1:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Overall, cjs, not many guys have won titles with multiple teams: Tim Flock, Buck Baker, Joe Weatherly (ran for 13 teams in 1963), David Pearson, Dale Earnhardt, Terry Labonte, and Tony Stewart. In Formula 1, the list is more extensive: Juan Manuel Fangio, Graham Hill, Jack Brabham, Niki Lauda, Nelson Piquet, Alain Prost, Ayrton Senna, Michael Schumacher 121. cjs3872 posted: 05.11.2013 - 1:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And of course, NicoRosbergFan, what you say about drivers winning titles with multiple teams in F1 is also true in IndyCar racing, as well. All three of the Unsers won titles with two different teams (Bobby with Leader Card and All American Racers, Al, Sr. with Vel's-Parnelli Jones and Penske Racing, and Al, Jr. with Galles Racng and Penske Racing). A.J. Foyt, Mario Andretti, and Bobby Rahal also won championships with multiple teams. Of course, one thing that sets Buck and Tony Stewart apart from the others you mentioned from a NASCAR point of view was that one of those championships came as an owner-driver. Buck Baker in 1957 and Tony Stewart two years ago won championships as an owner-driver, as did A.J. Foyt and Bobby Rahal in IndyCar racing, as well as win championships drving for other people. And you have to drive differently if you also own the team you're driving for, so for guys like Buck Baker, Foyt, Rahal, and Tony Stewart to all win championships as owner-drivers says something about them as competitors. Of those drivers you listed, Terry Labonte in NASCAR and Niki Lauda in F1 may be the most impressive because the sport was so radically different between their first and last championship. Labonte's championships were separated by 12 years and Lauda actually won a championship after coming back from retirement. Something similar can be said about Al Unser, Sr., but he never retired during the 13 years between his first and second championship, but he proved that the 1983 championship, his first since 1970, wasn't a fluke by winning it again in 1985. 122. NadeauFan91 posted: 05.11.2013 - 1:48 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) > Joe Gibbs Cuppies 1-2-3-5 > History > Killing self now 123. NadeauFan91 posted: 05.11.2013 - 1:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Correction, Cuppies/Former Cuppies 124. Baker posted: 05.11.2013 - 3:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) David, What he is suppose to have learned that line in what a dozen races? Please fool. I'll remember all you when Kyle Larson is a nationwide champion just like Ricky. 125. Baker posted: 05.11.2013 - 3:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I was wrong its not even a dozen starts. He has 9 career start 6 of which are Top 15 runs and he is only 20 years old. You people really need to ease back on your expectations and stop buying into the crap ESPN pumps out about drivers these days. 126. David posted: 05.11.2013 - 3:55 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "What he is suppose to have learned that line in what a dozen races?" No, it something he could have learned last year while running the K&N East series. "I'll remember all you when Kyle Larson is a nationwide champion just like Ricky." Great. We'll see you then. By then, Bowman could be in the Cup series and running competitively. 127. cjs3872 posted: 05.11.2013 - 3:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Baker, it's one thing when network guys prop up drivers, bu it's another thing when other drivers do so, such as the likes of Stewart, Gordon, and most recently Jeff Burton have propped up Kyle Larson, and Mark Martin has done the same with Alex Bowman, though Martin's record on that took a beating with the whole Joey Logano thing, so far. When othr drivers say that a younger driver is a superstar in the making, that carries a lot more weight than when a network guys says so, because drivers and team owners have much more credability. For instance, 20 years ago, Rick Hendrick called Jeff Gordon "the franchise" before he ever did anything for him, and he could not have been more right about that. When you hear commentators brag about a certain drver, it's one thing, but when you hear other drivers and team owners doing it, it will always carry much more weight because they're on the inside and are actually seeing themdoing it firsthand. Actually, years ago, I heard Robbie Loomis tell the story of watching Jeff Gordon practice for what would be his first Cup race, with Richard Petty, who con-incidentally was starting his final race that same weekend, and Loomis tells the story about how Richard Petty flatly told him that that guy (Gordon) is going to be the next superstar, and irnically, Loomis was to win a championship with Gordon in 2001 and won every big race with Gordon except the Coca-Cola 600. Dale Earnhardt also predicted that Gordon was going to be the next superstar in Jeff's first or second year in the Cup Series. When other veteran drivers, especially drivers of that caliber say that about a young driver coming along, that carries much more weight than anything any commentator has to say. So when you hear other drivers such as Gordon, Stewart, Martin, Burton, and others have such high praise for guys like Kyle Larson and Alex Bowman, they're not doing it to prop them up. They're doing it because their own experience tells them how good these guys are likely going to be in years to come. 128. 83andJoe posted: 05.11.2013 - 6:41 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) -Joe Nemechek's 400th start. 129. webmaster posted: 05.13.2013 - 12:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Regarding the true owner of the #98 car in 2013, I received this from Curb Records: "We reached an agreement with Biagi and NASCAR where [Mike] Curb became the car owner/entrant for the 2013 season. Curb became the car owner starting with the Fontana race in 2013, and NASCAR has it listed correctly. Curb will remain the car owner for the remainder of 2013, and there's also a very good chance that the relationship will continue into 2014 as well and we will let you know if there is a change." 130. Talon64 posted: 05.14.2013 - 12:57 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "o when you hear other drivers such as Gordon, Stewart, Martin, Burton, and others have such high praise for guys like Kyle Larson and Alex Bowman, they're not doing it to prop them up. They're doing it because their own experience tells them how good these guys are likely going to be in years to come." It's too bad the drivers' praise for Kyle Larson is falling on deaf ears around here. And don't bring up Mark Martin and Joey Logano. But that's because Mark wasn't exactly 100% wrong given Logano's been in Cup full time for 5 years and has 2 wins (one legit) before he's even turned 23. And his Nationwide success stands up to any other Cup drivers' success in the series which is the only proper measurement for Cup drivers' accomplishments in Nationwide. 131. cjs3872 posted: 05.14.2013 - 9:45 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Talon64, that's because most of those that post aren't objective. They have drivers they like and those they don't like and nothing, and I mean nothing will change their opinion of them, either way. 132. Anonymous posted: 05.20.2013 - 8:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #01 Mike Wallace crew chief--Johnny Davis #4 Landon Cassill crew chief--Marc Browning 133. The Long Shot posted: 05.21.2013 - 8:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Here are my predictions for this weekend's History 300 at Charlotte Motor Speedway. Lineup: Row 1: 3-Austin Dillon, 18-Matt Kenseth Row 2: 54-Kyle Busch, 12-Sam Hornish Jr. Row 3: 11-Elliott Sadler, 33-Kevin Harvick Row 4: 6-Trevor Bayne, 22-Joey Logano Row 5: 20-Brian Vickers, 31-Justin Allgaier Row 6: 32-Kyle Larson, 2-Brian Scott Row 7: 99-Alex Bowman, 77-Parker Kligerman Row 8: 5-Kasey Kahne, 7-Regan Smith Row 9: 98-Kevin Swindell, 40-Reed Sorenson Row 10: 16-Chris Buescher, 43-Michael Annett Row 11: 30-Nelson Piquet Jr., 60-Travis Pastrana Row 12: 4-Landon Cassill, 19-Mike Bliss Row 13: 66-Steve Wallace, 70-Johanna Long Row 14: 29-Kenny Wallace, 25-John Wes Townley Row 15: 21-Dakoda Armstrong, 51-Jeremy Clements Row 16: 42-J.J. Yeley, 44-Hal Martin Row 17: 87-Joe Nemechek, 01-Mike Wallace Row 18: 79-Kyle Fowler, 14-Eric McClure Row 19: 24-Jason White, 23-Robert Richardson Row 20: 74-Juan Carlos Blum, 10-Jeff Green DNQ: 37-Matt DiBenedetto, 55-Jamie Dick, 00-Blake Koch, 17-Tanner Berryhill, 92-Dexter Stacey Results: 1. 54-Kyle Busch 2. 22-Joey Logano 3. 11-Elliott Sadler 4. 20-Brian Vickers 5. 33-Kevin Harvick 6. 3-Austin Dillon 7. 31-Justin Allgaier 8. 16-Chris Buescher 9. 18-Matt Kenseth 10. 5-Kasey Kahne 11. 7-Regan Smith 12. 6-Trevor Bayne 13. 12-Sam Hornish Jr. 14. 2-Brian Scott 15. 40-Reed Sorenson 16. 19-Mike Bliss 17. 77-Parker Kligerman 18. 99-Alex Bowman 19. 30-Nelson Piquet Jr. 20. 43-Michael Annett 21. 32-Kyle Larson 22. 29-Kenny Wallace 23. 98-Kevin Swindell 24. 66-Steve Wallace 25. 60-Travis Pastrana 26. 4-Landon Cassill 27. 01-Mike Wallace 28. 14-Eric McClure 29. 70-Johanna Long 30. 51-Jeremy Clements 31. 79-Kyle Fowler 32. 24-Jason White 33. 87-Joe Nemechek 34. 23-Robert Richardson 35. 44-Hal Martin 36. 21-Dakoda Armstrong 37. 74-Juan Carlos Blum 38. 25-John Wes Townley 39. 42-J.J. Yeley 40. 10-Jeff Green 134. The Long Shot posted: 06.26.2013 - 11:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Withdrew: 15-Stanton Barrett 135. ch posted: 07.25.2013 - 12:17 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) #47 Sponsor: The Motorsports Group 136. joey2448 posted: 04.08.2014 - 9:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Gibbs car lined up 1-4 and Busch on the pole? Yawn. Maybe I'll watch a movie tonight and get back on here in the morning and see how many laps Busch leads en route to victory while the highest non-cup guy finishes 5th or 6th." I know this comment is almost a year late, but I laughed when I read the second comment on this page, then looked at the results. He sure nailed it! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Post a comment:* Your comment may not appear immediately - all comments must be approved by the moderator. Name: Comment: