|| *Comments on the 2013 Ford EcoBoost 300:* View the most recent comment <#327> | Post a comment <#post> 1. murb posted: 11.16.2013 - 2:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Blake Koch!!! Excellent run. And damn, maybe Hornish actually has a chance if he can keep it up there all day. 2. We need more Onion posted: 11.16.2013 - 2:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (3) Lol, Blake Koch on the front row. Good job by Blake, but anyone knows why Bowman was fired? The championship battle looks good with Hornish on the pole and Dillon only in 11th. Yea, and f**k you Silas. 3. Sector posted: 11.16.2013 - 2:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Good, at least we will not hear about Kyle Busch tying Jeff Gordon's record 11 Poles in the 1992 season. 10 Poles is good enough for you Kyle. Brad Keselowski, in the 48 car, is starting ahead of Kyle Busch. I hope for some action between the two tonight, assuming he's looking for payback for what Kyle Busch did to him @ Kansas, as well as helping Joey Logano win the owner's championship in the 22. But nothing will probably happen anyway, though I wouldn't count that idea out. x) 4. FHgrad99 posted: 11.16.2013 - 2:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Blake Koch has been very impressive in the #99 car from the time they hit the track for practice. They showed a lot of speed in practice and then backed it up with a good qualifying effort. 5. Kenny posted: 11.16.2013 - 2:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (10) I'm Hopi g Austin ei s the title over Sam(thou I have nothing against Sam)I'd reather see Austin win 6. Sarf52 posted: 11.16.2013 - 2:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Where is Alex Bowman? He's been doing a great job this year; I'd be shocked if he was fired... 7. nascar_vd posted: 11.16.2013 - 2:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) After a very good time in practice session, Carl Long (with the only Dodge) misses his qualifying run... For the first time with a good car Blake Koch made an impressive job in practice and an amazing run in qualifying ! 8. BradKeselowski2Fan posted: 11.16.2013 - 2:48 pm Rate this comment: (3) (1) Hoping Hornish wins the championship. 9. The Long Shot posted: 11.16.2013 - 2:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It's a good thing I'm not drinking anything right now, as I all but spewed when I saw Koch's name on the front row. I've never felt that he had much talent, but color me impressed now. Great job by that kid. 10. Dave #38 Fan-Go Gilliland! posted: 11.16.2013 - 3:09 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Where is Alex Bowman? He's been doing a great job this year; I'd be shocked if he was fired..." He was fired by the team prior to practice on Friday. Blake Koch, who was originally entered in a second car, #29, for the team, moved over to the #99 for the race. 11. cjs3872 posted: 11.16.2013 - 3:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Of course, we know that even if he can stay within shouting distance of the front, that Blake Koch is gong to be done in by that pit crew of RAB Racing, because we all know just how horrendous an operation that is. That said, it's nice to see someone like Koch in a car that will allow him to show potential, even if his team will have their usual problems. And I don't know why Bowman was released, but I suspect that he finally figured out what a dreadful operation that is, then he may have asked for his release, hoping for something better, even if it's in the Truck Series. 12. Dave #38 Fan-Go Gilliland! posted: 11.16.2013 - 3:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm not sure why Bowman and RAB parted ways, although I do have to disagree with cjs3872, who thinks that Bowman thought that RAB was not a good team and he left voluntarily, no driver regardless of the situation would leave with one race left in the season, if he really didn't think he was going to fit in well with the team he would have left either around or before the seasons halfway point. All the team said was that they would not comment on contract issues and Bowman said on twitter not to blame Koch because he had nothing to do with it. If I had to guess I would say that Bowman either ran out of money or missed a payment and the team decided to go with Koch, had a sponsor for this weekend. With more than 40 cars entered this week it's likely that they did not want their sponsored driver (Koch, entered in the #29 initially) to miss the race. 13. Spen posted: 11.16.2013 - 3:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) *coughMusgravecoughcough* 14. Schroeder51 posted: 11.16.2013 - 4:10 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) Great qualifying effort for Blake Koch; maybe this will lead to him getting better opportunities in the future. Probably not, but I guess we'll see. And I really hope that Alex Bowman can find a good ride for next year. It would be an absolute travesty if talented young drivers like him or Ross Chastain ended up being out of the sport altogether next season because no one would give them a ride. As for the race itself...for my own sanity, I've decided I'm going to watch it with the volume muted so I don't have to hear BSPN hyping the hell out of Austin Dillon or trumping up the owner's championship over the driver's championship. I think the dismal commentary has helped make a lot of these races so painful to watch, so it might actually help a little. 15. Taylor posted: 11.16.2013 - 4:32 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Way to go Blake Koch starting 2nd! I'm curious to find out what happened to Alex Bowman 16. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.16.2013 - 4:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Of course, Bestwick is the one to bring up the AEMPNNSCOC. 17. JRacingFast posted: 11.16.2013 - 4:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) WoW.....look at that crowd today 18. Schroeder51 posted: 11.16.2013 - 4:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Good grief, it looks only a third of the seats are even occupied! I'd say fan attendance couldn't get worse, but I'd probably get proven wrong at some point next year. 19. Anonymous posted: 11.16.2013 - 4:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hope we can ge a good race to end the season, by that i mean no Busch. No Keselowski. No Logano in victory lane 20. RaceFanX posted: 11.16.2013 - 4:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Penske cars 1-2-3 after the first lap Travis Pastrana makes his final NASCAR start before leaving the stock car business. 21. JRacingFast posted: 11.16.2013 - 4:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Also Note the Tarps on the lower level on the gradstands in turn 1 22. Kenny posted: 11.16.2013 - 4:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (6) Why the hell am I getting do menny down votes?.......ill say it again ill take Austn over Sam 23. RaceFanX posted: 11.16.2013 - 4:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hornish's last race for Penske, they've been together since Sam's IRL days. Here's hoping he can go out a champion and land a new ride. Also win or lose points leader Austin Dillon makes his last Nationwide start before moving up to Sprint Cup next year. 24. Schroeder51 posted: 11.16.2013 - 4:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #22 I'm guessing that would probably be because not many people around here actually like the Dillons. Quite a good many people agreed with Harvick's comments on them after the Truck race at Martinsville. 25. We need more Onion posted: 11.16.2013 - 4:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Interesting how Sam's main scheme looks similar to his Panther Racing car's Pennzoil colors. 26. Ched Little posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:03 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "I'm Hopi g Austin ei s the title over Sam(thou I have nothing against Sam)I'd reather see Austin win " "Why the hell am I getting do menny down votes?.......ill say it again ill take Austn over Sam " Maybe because of the horrible grammar, syntax, and spelling Go home, Kenny; you're drunk. 27. Schroeder51 posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The Next Dale Earnhardt (TM) is slipping farther and farther back into the pack while Hornish continues to lead. 28. murb posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Dillon has a horrible race car. 29. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) C'mon Kyle(Larson)! 30. murb posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I honestly wouldn't mind if Larson wins today. He's really grown on me a lot over the course of this year. 31. Schroeder51 posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wow, Kyle Larson passed Kyle Busch for position on the track. Oh, the irony if this actually turns out to be one of the best races of the season when most of the races this year have been of a depressing nature... 32. We need more Onion posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) What did just see? The #10 car running past the first 10 laps! (Yes, I know the #91 has parked 2 laps in) 33. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That was a Tony Stewart 2011 pass. 34. New14 & 88Fan posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hornish is looking good so far, meanwhile The Next Dale Earnhardt(TM)is running 13th and struggling. 35. murb posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Both Cowboy Hats are pretty mediocre today it looks like. 36. Kenny posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) I'm am home and I'm on an iPod don't you ppl know what a bitch it is to type on these things?(and some times I piss myself off dew to my spelling) 37. Schroeder51 posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Larson is about to challenge Hornish for the lead. Perfect timing for a commercial break. 38. We need more Onion posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Koch is holding his ground quite well, running in the top 10, 3rd amongst proper Nationwide drivers. 39. New14 & 88Fan posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Larson to the lead. 40. We need more Onion posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:13 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) Yep, we missed the pass for the lead. Gonna be soo good to get rid of ESPN coverage. 41. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hornish has slipped to 4th. 42. RaceFanX posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ken, you used the wrong dew. (I'm on a Droid and yeah totally can't type on this thing) 43. We need more Onion posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The #76 car is coming fast. 44. murb posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Now Hornish is falling back. "Debris" caution. 45. Schroeder51 posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kind of anticipated them throwing a caution flag for "debris" when I saw how large of a lead Larson had. 46. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:16 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) Was it really debris or was Nemechek within 5 feet of the wall again? 47. DB1995 posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) My 2 least favorites are leading.... Oh joy 48. We need more Onion posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:17 pm Rate this comment: (6) (0) Actually the yellow is out because someone spotted Buckshot Jones in row 9 of the grandstand. 49. Kenny posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Thx Racefanx I can aways count on you :) Hey what are the points as they run you guys? 50. Schroeder51 posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:19 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) The caution came out because Steven Wallace was spotted in the garage area. NASCAR just couldn't help but throw the caution. 51. murb posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And now the Gibbs cars are 1-2 after pit stops. 52. We need more Onion posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wow, imagine Bucky and Steve W. running against each other. 53. murb posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Buckshot was one of the worst drivers ever, but at the same time, at least he won a couple races, unlike S**** W******. 54. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @49, Hornish up 3 pts Hornish 6th, Dillon 14th. 55. RaceFanX posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hornish by 3 right now 56. Kenny posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @54 thank you :) 57. Schroeder51 posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:24 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Corey LaJoie spins on the frontstretch. 58. murb posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:24 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Buckshot's ghost wrecks his arch-rival Randy Lajoie's son Corey. 59. RaceFanX posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Buckshot was solid, fun, and beating the big boys in his own #00. 60. Schroeder51 posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Austin Dillon pits again. Looks like he's trying to use some strategy to get him the title. 61. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:27 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Austin Dillon pits again. Looks like he's trying to use some strategy to get him the title. -Looks more like they threw everything but the kitchen sink at it. 62. We need more Onion posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) His own #00 was a really good ride, his good performances usually included speeding away in the straights of Milwaukee, Gateway or Loudon. Also, Todd jumped in that ride and won 2 races from 12 tries. Quite fitting that a LaJoie wrecks when we are talking about "Roy" 63. RaceFanX posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Corey LaJoie spins into the inside wall. This is his Busch debut after a strong performance in a handful of ARCA raced this season including a few wins. 64. murb posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Debris caution for a piece of tape. 65. 18fan posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Good race so far, even though the battle for the lead is among Cup drivers right now. 66. Schroeder51 posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Caution out again for an actual piece of debris. 67. We need more Onion posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This was on purpose to finally get some coverage. Good strategy Jeremy, good strategy. 68. murb posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Just for entertainment purposes I wouldn't mind if a Brad/Kyle confrontation happened in this race. 69. DaleSrFanForever posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I admit it, I'm watching this one to see if Brad finally gets his revenge. 70. We need more Onion posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:44 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) Props to Cassill, being up there with the Dillons driving a car which costs less than Austin's hat. 71. Schroeder51 posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Was that actually Landon Cassill battling with The Next Dale Earnhardt (TM) for position for a moment? Wow, his car is REALLY far off. 72. murb posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If Cowboy Hat loses this title, would it be considered a choke? Think about it. They've been complete money on the 1.5 milers this year (especially in qualifying), and in the one race that they need to do it in, they qualify outside the top ten and run like trash all race. To me, if he loses, I think I would have to consider this one a choke. 73. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Does Penske gives belly rubs? 74. NicoRosbergFan posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This race should be renamed... the Crackerjack 300. 75. Schroeder51 posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:56 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Caution is out because Steven Wallace was spotted in the garage once again. Maybe he should stay away from the race track... 76. Anonymous posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I wouldn't be surprised to see Brad and Kyle get together today with the oh so coveted owner's title being so close. 77. We need more Onion posted: 11.16.2013 - 5:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Timmy Hill's car looks the same as his Rick Ware cars. He might like this grass-green paint job with bright yellow numbers. 78. DaleSrFanForever posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Props to Cassill, being up there with the Dillons driving a car which costs less than Austin's hat." Ha! 79. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If this race can avoid tissue paper or Steven Wallace cautions, Kyle Larson can win. 80. murb posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Brad Sweet brings out the caution. 81. We need more Onion posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The day is complete now, btw Sweet is the new Steve Wallace/JWT. 82. Schroeder51 posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Caution out for Brad Sweet. Hornish seems to be fading a bit while The Next Dale Earnhardt (TM)'s car seems to be improving. 83. Schroeder51 posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Now they're separated by only one position. Looks like we may very well get a Cowboy Hat championship after all. 84. murb posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well shit. Hopefully Hornish doesn't completely fade out here. 85. Schroeder51 posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Good heavens, they are driving like maniacs on these restarts. 86. We need more Onion posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Go Parker! (Was about to write it in caps, then realized it's still 74 to go.) 87. murb posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hard hit for Kevin Swindell. 88. Schroeder51 posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Trouble; a HARD crash for Kevin Swindell on the backstretch. 89. New14 & 88Fan posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 4- and 5-wide racing on the restart... And Kevin Swindell wrecks. 90. Mr X posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Epic restart by Hornish, well done picked 5-10 spots in 2 laps. 91. We need more Onion posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) D'oh Another one of the small independent drivers wreck. Why not Kyle? 92. Schroeder51 posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Brian Scott has gone to the garage. Cowboy Hat the Elder is down a teammate. 93. Kenny posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:26 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Shit 94. Peter posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:27 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) C'mon NASCAR if you don't want to ban cup drivers running N'wide fine, but at lest make a rule saying they can't run the last race of the season; these guys are gonna decide the championship 95. murb posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jeez, 67 laps to go? I feel like I'm watching a 500 mile Cup race. 96. We need more Onion posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:31 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) *rant starts* The owner's championship... again. Why can't they f**king get that no-one cares. Not even the Kyle Busch-delusion group, they car about their precious driver winning 15 races per season, not that f**king "championship". Stop talking about it. The usual viewer doesn't even know something like that exists, but even I, a guy who enjoys statistics, only checked it to see where Clements and how far Harmon is from being locked in. *rant over* Cole Whitt seems quite fast on the restart. 97. DaleSrFanForever posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:31 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) Belly rub for Brad from Roger. 98. New14 & 88Fan posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:32 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Check out Cole Whitt up in 12th, he's giving that 44 car a good run. 99. We need more Onion posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:32 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Cassill to the garage, too bad, he was on the lead lap all night. 100. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Belly rub for Brad from Roger. - That one goes to Paul Wolfe for not pitting him 2 cautions ago. 101. We need more Onion posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) NOT USED TO THEIR TENDENCIES? DILLON? TO WHITT? and this was said by Mikey? 102. DaleSrFanForever posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Are my eyes deceiving me or was Austin wrecking as they went to commercial. I saw hands working and smoke. 103. Schroeder51 posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The Next Dale Earnhardt (TM) scraped the wall. 104. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Last I saw he was violently turning to the right. Unless they opened up the infield course, that's not good. 105. murb posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:36 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Yeah, Cowboy Hat totally was in trouble there. 106. We need more Onion posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The Next Dale Earnhardtâ?¢ wrecks people, he doesn't wreck. 107. murb posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Now Kligerman spins. 108. We need more Onion posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Oh, uppercase TM is not working *sad face* 109. Schroeder51 posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) But not to worry; Parker Kligerman spins out and saves him. 110. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The 99 got him going straight again. 111. murb posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Perfect break for Cowboy Hat. Fitting that a "cowboy" has a horseshoe wedged somewhere. 112. We need more Onion posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:40 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Wow, Michael Annett was racing this season? He did absolutely nothing. 113. Schroeder51 posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) A LOT of drivers took no tires on the pit stop. Wonder how that will work out... 114. Schroeder51 posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:41 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) #112 And he's actually going Cup racing next year. I actually like Annett, but I don't think he'll do particularly well as a Cup rookie next year. 115. We need more Onion posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) At least Yeley will feel a little bit better about himself and BoB will get a new racing buddy. 116. Kenny posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) When you guys talk about Austin what dose TM mean? 117. We need more Onion posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Moar Brad Sweet shenanigans. 118. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) *points finger* Patent pending. 119. New14 & 88Fan posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Brad Sweet back in the wall, that could of been big. 120. We need more Onion posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) But for once, not his bad, this time a talented driver wanted to go through. 121. Schroeder51 posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #116. Trademark. It's a bit of a joke on how Austin Dillon is already receiving a huge amount of hype because he's driving the #3 and the Earnhardt comparisons he's no doubt going to be received. 122. Kenny posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @121 thanks :D 123. We need more Onion posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Look, Ty is doing a Vickers. 124. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Silver Spoons II will get an extra belly rub from Pop-Pop. I assume he gets one after every race regardless. 125. Schroeder51 posted: 11.16.2013 - 6:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hornish rubbed the wall. 126. We need more Onion posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:00 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Logano messing around Austin makes me think of this sentence: "And Jimmy Smith can kiss my ass" OR The championship can end up in a TY. 127. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) What's more important, Brad? The drivers title or the AEMPNNSCOC? 128. Schroeder51 posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "The championship can end in a TY" Terrible pun, but that made me laugh anyways. 129. Schroeder51 posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Allgaier spins. Big break for Cowboy Hat the Elder. 130. murb posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Really hope Larson doesn't lose this by putting himself in the wall. Allgaier spins. That's no surprise because he's been driving like a maniac all day long. 131. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) As long as we're doing puns, Allgaier Brandt-ed the wall, caution's out. 132. New14 & 88Fan posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Justin Allgair spins to bring out the caution. Now what? 133. DaleSrFanForever posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:07 pm Rate this comment: (6) (0) Good thing Cup has the chase. That is the only way to have dramatic points finishes. When is Truck and NWide gonna join the new millennium and get their own chase? >_> 134. murb posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:10 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Hornish has to win this race now. 135. murb posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Big wreck with Regan Smith, Jeremy Clements, and Mike Wallace. 136. We need more Onion posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) OOOH f**k THIS. After not wrecking hard all year. 137. murb posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wow, that was a huge bonehead move by Regan. 138. Schroeder51 posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hard hit for Smith, Clements, and Wallace. 139. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:12 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) Was the goal of NASCAR's top 3 series in 2013 to find every spot on the racetrack that doesn't have a SAFER barrier? 140. We need more Onion posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) and that's why Regan doesn't have a cup ride. Up front one day, making huge mistakes on others. 141. Paul posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:14 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Stupid move by Regan Smith that takes out two underfunded cars. I applaud Jeremy Clements for not popping him when he walked over to Smith's car after the wreck. 142. SpeedWorld97 posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:17 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) I'm sorry if a anger anyone, but Austin Dillon DOES NOT deserve to win the title this year. I know some people like it, but a winless champion just doesn't sound right. 143. DaleSrFanForever posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:17 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Why not throw the red flag? 144. SpeedWorld97 posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) * I 145. RaceFanX posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wreck helps Dillon, less cars to pass him. 146. murb posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:19 pm Rate this comment: (3) (1) "I'm sorry if a anger anyone, but Austin Dillon DOES NOT deserve to win the title this year. I know some people like it, but a winless champion just doesn't sound right." I'm pretty sure just about everyone agrees with you. The only "good" takeaway from it is that it would make Nascar's point system look ridiculous. And who doesn't love when Nascar is made a fool out of? 147. DB1995 posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:19 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Go Trevor!! 148. We need more Onion posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 145. Not like Clements' ancient car or Mike Wallace's ex-Jeff Fuller car both on worn tires meant much threat. 149. Schroeder51 posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) #143 I agree; it will feel REALLY weird having a champion who never even tasted victory lane at any point during the season. Like I've said before, I am HOPING this doesn't lead to NASCAR implementing the Chase in the lower series in the near future... 150. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It seems that Hornish's best chance now is for Silver Spoons I to have the worst restart of his life. 151. DaleSrFanForever posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:22 pm Rate this comment: (8) (1) Leave it to NASCAR to screw up an epic race by ending it like this. Unbelievable. I have never seen a more incompetent group than these clowns. 152. Sector posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well, Kyle Busch has reached the 2,000 laps led mark for the season, for the 3rd time of his Nationwide Career, first two coming in 2009 & 2010. Let's hope he doesn't tie his career & series best 13 wins from 2010. Go Kyle Larson! 153. Schroeder51 posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Of course. With the championship on the line, let's keep the field going under caution for 10+ laps rather than red flagging the race. 154. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Like I've said before, I am HOPING this doesn't lead to NASCAR implementing the Chase in the lower series in the near future... If Cup guys are driving and winning 80% of the races, it makes it more likely to have a winless champion if the Chase is implemented; whether it be the top 5 or 10 in points and if their playoff run is for fewer races. 155. murb posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) And now they wave off this restart. Idiotic. 156. murb posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I have no idea why they didn't red flag this. 157. SpeedWorld97 posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:25 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) NASCAR is trying to do everything to make sure their golden boy Austin wins this title. 158. DaleSrFanForever posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:25 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) What a joke. Thank you NASCAR. Idiots. 159. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This is making IndyCar's caution periods look short in comparison. 160. DB1995 posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 20 caution laps to end the season.... Good move NASCAR good move. 161. We need more Onion posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Seeing the amount of incompetence and the amount of oil on the track Shiggy Hattori came. 162. Jim Davis posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:26 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "...rather than red flagging the race." I give NASCAR a pass here. ESPN is probably in their ear about finishing the race as quickly as possible. 163. murb posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:26 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) YOU f**kING MORONS IN THE SCORING TOWER 164. Schroeder51 posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) At the rate we're going this is going to end up being a GWC. 165. murb posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:28 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) This is one of the most pathetic things ever. 166. OldSchoolNascarDude1 posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:28 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) This is an utter embarrassment. 167. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) At the rate we're going this is going to end up being a GWC -Knowing NASCAR, they may change the rules mid-stream and cancel GWC's. Larson's 1st win, SS I wins the driver title and Gibbs win the AEMPNNSCOC. Everyone's a winner. 168. Schroeder51 posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Restart gets waved off AGAIN. WOW. This really IS going to be a GWC. 169. DaleSrFanForever posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:29 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) Let the goddamn racers decide this. This is ridiculous even by NASCAR's standards. Why have 15 lapsto decide a great race when you can have just 6. And they are gonna throw it off again. This is a new low in a season and decade of lows for NASCAR. 170. 18fan posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:29 pm Rate this comment: (2) (2) This is awful. 171. We need more Onion posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) You know what, let's look at the bright side. Whitt is in 6th and Jeff Green in the top 10 at the moment. It'd be his first Nationwide top10 in 8 years. 172. BluesTravelerFan posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) What a freakin disaster. 173. Rusty posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:29 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) NASCAR is handing Dillon the title by wasting laps here. 174. Anonymous posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) GWC 175. New14 & 88Fan posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:30 pm Rate this comment: (1) (2) This is completely ridicules, they should of red flagged the race in order to clean the front stretch. 176. jabber1990 posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I hate to ask a stupid question but AEMPNNSCOC? what does that mean? 177. We need more Onion posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:31 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) Brett Bodine to the pits. Darn shame, he was on the lead lap all night. 178. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) AEMPNNSCOC? what does that mean? All-Encompassing and Most Prestigious NASCAR Nationwide Series Car Owner Championship. 179. Mr X posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:31 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Thanks for the restart NASCAR about 10 laps late. 180. murb posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:32 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Welp, there it is. Winless champion. 181. Schroeder51 posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:32 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Keselowski's going to win this race. Wonderful! 182. We need more Onion posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:32 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Seriously? Brad, seriously? 183. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:32 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Fitting end to the season. Cup driver spoils the party. Again. 184. Rusty posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:33 pm Rate this comment: (5) (2) Sucks to see Larson robbed of his first win for a meaningless Cup victory while an unlikeable grandson gets a championship without winning a race and in general probably being the 5th-6th best team. Just why this series is horrible. 185. We need more Onion posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:33 pm Rate this comment: (3) (1) BOO for Nascar. Well done after all for Nepotism Sr., he did well. 186. murb posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Of course Ty puts up no effort to pass Austin. Good race, but I hate this series so god damn much. Glad it's over this year. 187. Anonymous posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:34 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) In 2015, series should be named Little Sprint Series 188. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:34 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) A 48 car wins and we're all pissed. Sound familiar? 189. Kenny posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:34 pm Rate this comment: (1) (7) YESSSSSSSSSD 190. DaleSrFanForever posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:34 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) A goddamn joke. 191. BluesTravelerFan posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:34 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Well guess what: The 48 car won again. 192. Anonymous posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Penske hangs Hornish out to dry at the end, even if Lagano and Brad K held back he still would have lost. 193. We need more Onion posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:34 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Actually, I'm happy for the #3 crew. Also first time Mike Dillon will be allowed near a trophy. 194. New14 & 88Fan posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) What a freaking joke, a Cup driver wins the race and The Next Dale Earnhardt(TM) is the champ. Way to fail Nascar. 195. Mr X posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:35 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) woohoo, a cup winner and a winless champion. mmmmm great 196. Kevin posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:35 pm Rate this comment: (5) (1) Broken series and judging by Helton's comments yesterday it won't be fixed soon. 197. murb posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) 0 Wins. 198. Sector posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Joey Logano's 22 should have won the Owner's Championship over Kyle Busch's 54 by ONE point. 199. Mark N. posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:36 pm Rate this comment: (10) (1) I'm all for consistency, but a champion who hasn't won a race is pathetic and NASCAR needs to do something about these Cup assholes. 200. Schroeder51 posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:36 pm Rate this comment: (4) (1) Another win stolen away by a Cup driver, and Cowboy Hat wraps up the championship. For a season as hugely disappointing as this one has been, that's pretty much the perfect, totally fitting conclusion right there. I will admit the race itself was great up until the final laps. Damn. Hell of a disappointing finish. Even watching that with the volume MUTED was disappointing. Now we get to hear the BIG hype next year in the Cup Series as people start to wonder if Cowboy Hat will become the first driver to win all three series championship. 201. jabber1990 posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:37 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) amazing how a Cup driver wins a race in a series he shouldn't be in source: the cup driver who won that Nationwide race 202. jabber1990 posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:38 pm Rate this comment: (8) (1) according to Rich Texan on the Simpsons, the reason they wear cowboy hats is to compensate for their small penies 203. SpeedWorld97 posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:38 pm Rate this comment: (3) (1) I don't know what to say right now. First Brad wins another meaningless race from Kyle Larson, and Austin gets the championship thanks to NASCAR incompetent timing and scoring. He has to be one of the biggest hacks to win any NASCAR title. He needed his brother to help him win this title. This year sucks. Thank GOD it's almost over... 204. Anonymous posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (9) In 2011, Austin Dillon won the truck championship. In 2013, Austin Dillon won the nationwide championship. In 2015, Austin Dillon will win the cup championship. 205. We need more Onion posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:39 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Joey Logano's 22 should have won the Owner's Championship over Kyle Busch's 54 by ONE point." Oh yeha. The Bestest championship of all, the Nationwide Owners championship, now Roger Penske can say that his organization is amongst teams like NEMCO, Hensley Motorsports or Grissom Racing Enterprises. He is somebody now. Okay, I'm out. Have fun guys. 206. Schroeder51 posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:39 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) And the saddest thing is that this isn't going to change anytime soon, apparently. The sponsors and the media love having Cup drivers dominating the living daylights out of this series, and as long as they want this NASCAR won't do one damn thing about it. It's sad knowing this series is basically forever going to be a Cup driver playground. It was a win/win scenario for the media tonight, though. A Cup driver wins and The Next Dale Earnhardt (TM) win the title. 207. Sector posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:39 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) I hope for everyone's sake: Austin Dillon doesn't win a Cup Championship. 208. DaleSrFanForever posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:39 pm Rate this comment: (12) (1) Is there a more fitting image of present day NASCAR than Austin doing those burnouts, tearing up the flag with that iconic #3 on it? That is exactly what present day RCR is doing to the legacy of that #3 and what present day NASCAR is doing to its glorious past. 209. Schroeder51 posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:40 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) One final thing from me: Ty Dillon is going to get the mother of all belly rubs tonight. 210. New14 & 88Fan posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:40 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) At least Sam gave a good interview, that last caution and Nascar's incompetence screwed him. 211. murb posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:41 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I don't know how you can celebrate a championship knowing that you didn't win a single damn race. 0 wins. Unbelievable. 212. jabber1990 posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I don't know how you can celebrate a championship knowing that you didn't win a single damn race" if a driver won a championship by "bottomfeeding" and top-5ing, or podiuming everyone to death without winning we'd be happy for him 213. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Now what channel is the coronation gonna be shooed away to? 214. Rexrobe posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:44 pm Rate this comment: (14) (0) How many times did it happen this summer where Sam ran second to a Cup teammate? You can make the case that Keselowski and Logano lost Sam the championship. 215. New14 & 88Fan posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:46 pm Rate this comment: (6) (0) "How many times did it happen this summer where Sam ran second to a Cup teammate? You can make the case that Keselowski and Logano lost Sam the championship." But they were running for the all important owner's championship, so those sacrifices weren't in vain *gags* 216. murb posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) LOL, They're actually proud that they are the first team to win the title without a win. 217. WTF posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:48 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) How can you be 'proud' to win a championship without a win? 218. Kevin posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:49 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) For future reference Austin it's probably not the best thing to do to boast about being the first driver to win a championship without winning a race. 219. cjs3872 posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well, Austin Dillon becomes the first driver in a major racing series to win championship without winning a race since Tom Sneva in 1978, when Sneva won the USAC IndyCar title without winning a race. The irony here is that Dillon and RCR beat the very same organization with which Sneva won that title in 1978, Penske Racing. (NOTE: Of course, Childress would then have to say he won it "in the 3".) The difference here is that Sneva got fired after his winless championship in '78, while Dillon's (rightly) getting promoted to the Cup Series next year. (Sneva's career was later rejuvenated by George Bignotti, for whom Sneva finally won the Indianapolis 500 in 1983.) But while I think that NASCAR obviously erred by not stopping the race after that 3-car crash on lap 182, I don't think it was anything intentional on their part. It just took much longer to adequately clean the track than they thought it would. However, what Brad Keselowski was doing before the caution for Justin Allgaier's spin was more than a little suspicious, because he was intentionally holding back to keep Sam Hornish, Jr. from losing that one point, because he could have passed Hornish any time he wanted to. Since no damage was ultimately done, I'm sure NASCAR won't take a further look into this, but had that decided the championship, there would have been a look into that, and while I'm mentioning that, I wonder if NASCAR's going to look into Ty Dillon not passing his brother. I doubt it, but they might. But what nearly cost Austin the title was Childress being too conservative on his engine package, because Austin's car seemed slow, in addition to being ill-handling. 220. WTF posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:50 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Hey Mike Dillon, was this season 'awesome'? 221. DaleSrFanForever posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:50 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) Did he really just brag about not winning a race this year? They said it couldn't be done? Have I menrioned this is a joke yet? And newsflash ESPN, Dale clinched his title in '94 on TNN dumbasses. Dale's last championship interview live on air was inside his car not on ESPN. 222. WTF posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:52 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Holy smoke, where did they find some much gold thread? 223. BluesTravelerFan posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:52 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I'm certainly not the biggest Sam Hornish fan, but you have to feel for him, not only did he have to suffer through this day, but he's also losing his ride. Depressing. 224. BradKeselowski2Fan posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:52 pm Rate this comment: (4) (2) Here's to hoping Austin Dillon's Cup career goes to crap. :D 225. Mr X posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:53 pm Rate this comment: (5) (0) This is yet another example of just how pathetic NASCAR's peanut gallery points system is, a driver with zero wins, 3 2nd's, 8 podiums, 13 top 5's, 22 top 10's, and 557 laps led wins the title over a driver who won a race, 5 2nd's, 11 podiums, 16 top 5's, 24 top 10's, and 603 laps led if my math is correct, simply because of an average finish that was 0.3 positions higher. 226. Rexrobe posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #215, How *could* I have forgotten the owner's championship? Shame on me... 227. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:54 pm Rate this comment: (5) (1) What advice would you give to someone wanting to make it in NASCAR? The real answer: Hope your daddy marries someone related to Hendrick, Gibbs, Roush or Penske. Sorry, Childress is already spoken for. 228. murb posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:54 pm Rate this comment: (9) (1) "Hey Austin, give some advice to some of the kids out there who want to be the next Austin Dillon." - Punch "Well Jerry, the key is thing is that their Pop Pop better have a guaranteed Cup ride available." - Dillon 229. NicoRosbergFan posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:56 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) @#225, I believe in the importance of consistency, but that's pathetic. If Dillon was 1.3 places better (or 3 point something like Jeff in 2007), then I'd say he has a case, but 1.3 should not cancel that out, especially since Sam's own teammates cost him the title with their sponsor's immaturity (yes, I am saying the sponsors are immature to not be willing to take a risk with a young driver; risks are what made this country great). 230. Mr X posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) God I hope this doesn't happen, but watch NASCAR throw a Chase in this series. 231. Dense Drip posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well, looking on the bright side, Blake Koch finished 11th. 232. 18fan posted: 11.16.2013 - 7:59 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Kyle Busch announced that KBM is shutting down their Nationwide program due to lack of funding. It looks like JGR and Turner-Scott Motorsports are also going to drop a NNS car. 233. Kevin posted: 11.16.2013 - 8:00 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Well at least Cole Whitt got another top 10 in that #44 car. I really hope he gets a full-time ride in some series next year. Dude has talent. 234. murb posted: 11.16.2013 - 8:00 pm Rate this comment: (12) (0) My bottom line? This series is officially dead. We have a winless champion because Nascar has let this series become nothing more than a Cup playground. And judging from Helton's comments from earlier in the weekend, it's not changing anytime soon. The Busch/Nationwide Series as we once knew it is dead. That's pretty much it. I just hope the Truck Series is able to maintain its own identity as a legit breeding ground series. If that series were to also go by the way side, it would be one of the biggest travesties in the history of Nascar. 235. OldSchoolNascarDude1 posted: 11.16.2013 - 8:01 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) JGR and Turner-Scott will both drop a team and KBR will shut down the Nationwide Series program for next season. 236. NicoRosbergFan posted: 11.16.2013 - 8:02 pm Rate this comment: (7) (0) "How did you do it Austin?" "Well I was born with a silver-plated 357-magnum serving spoon in my lips and a Cup team propped under my ass, so I knew I was destined for greatness; Ty too. Now excuse me while I continue Earnhardt's legacy while I drive in a way that makes Terry Labonte look vicious. Thanks to Grandpa I never have to worry about being out of a ride; just look at how he screwed Harvick, err opened rides just for me and Ty. 237. DB1995 posted: 11.16.2013 - 8:05 pm Rate this comment: (1) (3) Decent race i thought, glad Brad beat Larson( i just dont like him), glad Roger got the owners championship, good job by Trevor to come to 5th at the end, and most of all congrats to Austin Dillon on his championship would had liked to see Sam get it but oh well. 238. Anonymous posted: 11.16.2013 - 8:06 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) 48 won the race, hopefully tomorrow will be the opposite. 239. cjs3872 posted: 11.16.2013 - 8:07 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) Mr X, it goes even further than that. This weekend, NASCAR's crowned two champions, and those two drivers won a combined total of ONE race this season. Remember that Matt Crafton, despite his runaway championship in the Truck Series, only won once himself. And I agree with your assessment about the point system, and always have, especially at the apex of the point structure. There needs to be more separation among the top finishers, and until that happens, you're likely to see more championships like this. Also, didn't anyone have the feeling when NASCAR went to the system where a driver was eligible to earn points in just one series, that this would happen. In fact, in 2011, Elliott Sadler, also driving for RCR at the time, almost won the Nationwide Series title without winning a race (he finished second), and James Buescher threatened to do that in the Truck Series that season, leading the points late not only without winning, but also failing to qualify for one race. I hope what we've seen this season compels NASCAR to award more points for finishing up front. Below tenth is okay, but making a race for 32nd as important as a race for second is, has been, and always will be just plain dumb. Make it two points per position in the second half of the top ten, three points per position from second through fifth, and five from first to second. Everything else can be left the same. At least, the Cup Series will have a deserving champion, no matter who it ends up being. 240. Ched Little posted: 11.16.2013 - 8:07 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) "Don't cast your pearls before swine."-- Jesus Christ "Don't cast your gold threads before Dillons."-- this wise man 241. Schroeder51 posted: 11.16.2013 - 8:09 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) I 100% agree with what murb said. This series has basically become a zombie of sorts. It's not that the racing itself is bad, but the Cup driver domination is absolutely obnoxious. But NASCAR is pleased with the Cup driver domination so nothing will be done about it. Hell, they might as well just go ahead and let the Cup drivers run for points again. I can totally see them doing this in the near future. I REALLY hope the same fate does not befall the Truck Series. We already have one series that is a perpetual Cup driver playground. We don't need to have TWO series exactly like this. 242. New14 & 88Fan posted: 11.16.2013 - 8:14 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Kyle Busch announced that KBM is shutting down their Nationwide program due to lack of funding. It looks like JGR and Turner-Scott Motorsports are also going to drop a NNS car." With the #77 shutting down, where does that leave Parker Kligerman? 243. NicoRosbergFan posted: 11.16.2013 - 8:16 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) "But Grampa, what will I drive in Cup in Austin has the 3?" "Don't worry, Ty, I will see if I can scrounge up the 43, 11, 8, 22, or 24 for you by then." 244. Eric posted: 11.16.2013 - 8:18 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) If NASCAR creates the chase for the Nationwide Series, NASCAR still has the potential of champion without any wins. if Nationwide Series gets a champion with no wins in 2014 and 2015 with, NASCAR needs to do something. What NASCAR needs to do is cut down the amount of cup regulars do in the Nationwide Series. That means I want Brad and Kyle to race in the Nationwide series up to 10 Nationwide series races a year only. 245. Schroeder51 posted: 11.16.2013 - 8:18 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) One small positive note to take away from this race: Blake Koch had the race of his career to date. Qualified second, ran in the top 10 for most of the first half, and just barely finished outside the top 10. It would be interesting to see what he could do with better equipment since so far in his career he's driven nothing but junk. 246. Schroeder51 posted: 11.16.2013 - 8:20 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) #243 I have a hunch Ty will end up getting the #31. Once Pop Pop feels it's time for his other grandson to come to Cup, I wouldn't be shocked if he kicked Newman out of the car to put Ty in it. 247. murb posted: 11.16.2013 - 8:23 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) Childress will probably pay Nascar to allow them to run two #3s. Kind of like in sprint cars. They'll have #3A and #3T or whatever. 248. Schroeder51 posted: 11.16.2013 - 8:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #247 Or they'll take the #33 by paying Joe Falk's racing team to use a different number. 249. Anonymous posted: 11.16.2013 - 8:27 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "The sponsors and the media love having Cup drivers dominating the living daylights out of this series, and as long as they want this NASCAR won't do one damn thing about it." What sponsors? Honestly, the series is hemorrhaging teams every year and the sponsors of the top two finishers in points are both leaving the series. Apart from Discount Tire and Monster does anyone in this dreadful series have a full time sponsor? 250. DB1995 posted: 11.16.2013 - 8:35 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Advocare is Trevor Bayne full time sponsor next year. 251. Fed up posted: 11.16.2013 - 8:36 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) I guess NASCAR is the only "sport" a champion can be crowned never being a winner in 33 tries. 252. Anonymous posted: 11.16.2013 - 8:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 3rd time in the last 5 races that the #99 has finished 11th. In each of the past 6 races, the car has finished 11th or 18th. 253. cjs3872 posted: 11.16.2013 - 8:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @242, with the #77 NNS team shutting down next year, I wouldn't be surprised to see Kligerman in the #30 Cup car next year, especially if he runs as well at Homestead as he did at Texas (remember, he finished a more than credible 18th there in his Cup debut). If he can run in the top 25, and run all day, it certainly would back up what he did at Texas, and we may see him in the #30 car for next year's Daytona 500 and for most, if not all the Cup races next year. A good gauge for Kligerman will be the 21 and 51 cars. If he can run with the 21 and 51 cars, if not beat them, then he will have proven Texas to be no fluke. And Anonymous (#238), it's doubtful that the #48 car will win tomorrow's race. The only way I can see that happening is if both the 20 and 29 have troubles (or if the 20 has trouble and enough cars have trouble to mathematically prevent the 29 from taking the title). Johnson and the #48 team simply can't take the risks needed to win the race, because if such a risk backfires on them, thy could lose the title. Also remember that no matter what Jimmie Johnson does, if Matt Kenseth doesn't finish 15th or better (likely 16th, since Kenseth will probably lead the first lap from his pole position), AND if Kevin Harvick doesn't finish in the top ten, Johnson wins the title, even if he finishes last. And those will move up when the start-and-parks drop out. I see three potential S&Ps (33, 36, 40), which will raise the bar on what Kenseth and Harvick would have to do, even if Johnson exits in the first 100 miles for some reason. In other words, I expect Johnson to run a conservative race, run in the top ten, but not take any real risks, and if both Kenseth and Harvick run into trouble, then you'll see the #48 team get aggressive, but not until then. 254. 83andJoe posted: 11.16.2013 - 8:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) #01 sponsor: MC2 Energy Drink/Corporate Caterers #23 sponsor: PocketFinder #99 sponsor: Compassion International 255. Jack Bright posted: 11.16.2013 - 8:45 pm Rate this comment: (1) (2) We have a championship with no wins... directly thanks to one man, and he is Kyle Busch. If NASCAR doesn't ban him from nationwide and trucks next season, they would lose all their credibility. 256. cjs3872 posted: 11.16.2013 - 8:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) For however long Trevor's able to race, DB1995. The question becomes, if he has to get out of the car due to his MS, who would get in the #6 NNS car and the #21 Wood Brothers' car in the Cup Series. I'm not entirely sure that will happen next year, but it could, and if it does, Roush and the Woos have to prepare for such an event taking place. And if Trevor does have to get out of the seat, how would that affect sponsorship? It's ironic that he struggles so long to get sponsorship, even after winning the biggest event on the circuit, and now after he gets that sponsorship, this happens to him, though the diagnosis had come before then. And the irony of this winless championship for Austin Dillon and the Advocare sponsorship is that, who beats him in the race in which he had the best chance to win? Trevor Bayne, the same driver the Advocare sponsorship goes to next year. 257. jabber1990 posted: 11.16.2013 - 8:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) how about Chidlress run the 03 and the 33...there now us fans are a bit quieter, and the Earnhardt fans won't complain as loud Chocolate Myers said something (shocking) I don't understand how he plans to implement this, but we all know how much he loves talking and he doesn't listen to himself open all three series up to where the cup drivers can earn points, but once they win so many points they have to stop...if they earn less points in one race than they do in another then that allows them to enter more races. I know i'm terrible at explaining things but that's basicly what he said "allow them to earn only so many points...they can earn less but not more" 258. NascarFan1 posted: 11.16.2013 - 8:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Larson should have won that race. I'm for one am fed up with cup drivers racing in Nationwide and Truck races. 259. Eric posted: 11.16.2013 - 8:50 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) If NASCAR wants to have cup regulars win the Nationwide championship again, they they are hurting the cup series in 2019. Right now, there are 3 star drivers racing full time next year in the cup series that are on their downside of their career and that is means NASCAR is in a Mini Transition right now that is going to be even bigger in 2019. Biffle, Gordon, and Stewart are on their downside of their cup careers. Stewart was on his downside even before his broken leg. 2019 could be worse depending on Kenseth, Dale Jr., Jimmie Johnson and Kevin Harvick are going to be performance wise. Matt is a young 41 right now, but will age be catching up to Matt by 2019 in terms of a drivers prime because cup drivers are not normally in their prime at the age of 47 years old. Right now Dale Jr. is in one one his best seasons ever, but he's going to 45 in October of 2019 and the question of also of being in his prime. Jimmie in 2019 could be a question mark in terms of being in a prime since he's going to be 44 years old in September of 2019 also. I mentioned Kevin before Kevin in 2019 is going to 43, and that means he could be on his downside or close to it. 260. BluesTravelerFan posted: 11.16.2013 - 8:57 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @239 cjs The problem with the points system is that it's literally the easiest possible thing Brian France and "co" could come up with, absolutely no thought was put into this system, just put a one point separation for every spot in the field and keep the same percentage of separation for the win as before. The funny thing is that it is always joked about how the old Latford system was just scribbled down on a bar napkin, but in reality there was way more to it than today's joke of a method. The biggest problem is as exactly as you said, the lack of separation throughout the field(and thus, the lack of reward for making passes up front as opposed to the back of the field) makes it so there is basically ZERO reward for taking chances to make passes in the front of the field, and combined with the well-known reputation this system has for severely penalizing poor finishes,(which is way worse than with the old system, which was already somewhat infamous for this) it is one of the(if not THE biggest) reason why drivers take no chances today. NASCAR needs to have a system that gives drivers incentive to take chances in order to GAIN points, and not spend the whole race with their rear ends drawed up trying not to LOSE points. Apologies cjs if this was a little too loud a post. PS In my personal opinion, while it certainly had its flaws, I thought the Latford system was fine, there just needed to be a little bigger reward for winning the races. 261. Anonymous posted: 11.16.2013 - 8:59 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "We have a championship with no wins... directly thanks to one man, and he is Kyle Busch. If NASCAR doesn't ban him from nationwide and trucks next season, they would lose all their credibility." Well, Keselowski doesn't help things either, to be fair. 262. Matt L posted: 11.16.2013 - 8:59 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Congrats to Austin Dillon for winning the drivers championship! Overall, this season was a bit disappointing. 26 / 33 races were won by Cup drivers. Still, it was great to see the series feature more regulars compared to the past few years. Despite finishing second in the standings, Sam Hornish Jr. had a solid season and demonstrated how well he has adapted to NASCAR compared to the Sam Hornish Jr. of 2007. Regan Smith also had a very good year, winning at Talladega and Michigan this season. It's a shame he had a series of problems that led to him falling out of contention for he championship. Justin Allgaier had a pretty tough year. He seemed to be involved in a lot of incidents this season. But his results tell a different story, with 16 top 10s and 0 DNFs. Elliott Sadler left RCR for Joe Gibbs Racing, a move many considered an improvement for Sadler. However, Sadler didn't perform as well as he ran in 2012, earning 0 wins compared to the 4 he earned in 2012. Sadler was consistently a 5th to 10th place car, never able to break through to a victory. Trevor Bayne had a strange season. He won a race at Iowa and earned 20 tops 10s. But like Allgaier, Bayne frequently seemed to find trouble during the race and had a very inconsistent season. Brian Scott improved this season. He showed much more consistency compared to his wreckfilled 2012 season. His season highlight was the September Richmond race that he dominated until losing the lead at the end of the race. This season Brian Vickers was a consistent, top 5 driver that just needed the extra aggression needed to pass the Cup drivers and score a win. Kyle Larson created the most noise out of all the Nationwide regulars. He was aggressive and was regularly up front, battling with the cup drivers. As for the rest of he field, 2013 was a mix of highs and lows. Cole Whitt has to be the underdog of the year, giving Tri-Star Motorsports their best finishes ever. Mike Bliss continued to get the job done for Tri-Star, earning solid results for a partially funded car Landon Cassill also did amazing things with the JD Motorsports #4, taking a team that was struggling to make the field to a top 20 car. 2013 was a disappointment for Travis Pastrana, who never seemed to get a handle on the a nationwide car. Alex Bowman started out the season as a championship contender, but gradually faded as the season progressed due to a variety of problems that killed the team's momentum. It was also a disappointing year for Reed Sorenson, with weekly trips to the garage with a blown engine. Joe Nemecheck seemed less competitive than he was last season. His performance slipped from a weekly top 20 finisher to a 25th place finisher. 263. epzik8 posted: 11.16.2013 - 9:00 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) This was probably the Nationwide Series' worst year ever, from beginning to end. I didn't watch the race this evening but from what I'm hearing it pretty much capped this as a horrible season. 264. Eric posted: 11.16.2013 - 9:01 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Jack Bright, You are wrong by claiming there is only man responsible for having one man Responsible for the Nationwide Series have a championship without any wins. Brad Keselowski has as much in part of the Nationwide series having a champion with no Nationwide wins. Brad won 7 times in the Nationwide series this year despite being a cup regular. Brad and Kyle won a combined 19 out of 34 races. Sam Hornish Jr finished 2nd to Brad at Iowa, and at Watkin's Glen. Brad and Joey's wins in the 22 car hurt Sam for the Nationwide championship. 265. DRF posted: 11.16.2013 - 9:06 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) how about Chidlress run the 03 and the 33...there now us fans are a bit quieter, and the Earnhardt fans won't complain as loud Yes because it's all about making the trailer trash brigade happy. Bring on the 3, it's a damn car number. 266. DRF posted: 11.16.2013 - 9:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (13) Glad to see Austin win it over Hornish. Sam's success this year is more because of incredibly fast cars, not great driving talent. 267. Anonymous posted: 11.16.2013 - 9:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I hope what we've seen this season compels NASCAR to award more points for finishing up front. Below tenth is okay, but making a race for 32nd as important as a race for second is, has been, and always will be just plain dumb." Good point. I'm curious if anyone knows if Hornish would be the champion if NASCAR still used the Latford points system where there was at least a bigger points gap between positions in the top 10 and a three point gap between positions 11-43. 268. numbah10hatah posted: 11.16.2013 - 9:26 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Well, at least one person I know is happy about The Next Dale Earnhardt (TM) winning the championship without a win: Kenny. 269. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.16.2013 - 9:29 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) @267, Doing some quick math, it would've been close in favor of Hornish. Entering Homestead Hornish 4651 Dillon -11 Final Standings Hornish 4798 Dillon -31 Kyle Busch -443 270. DB1995 posted: 11.16.2013 - 9:35 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Cj, I know its a question mark to how long Trevor can race, but why is everyone treating it like hes made of glass? Kelly Sutton was diagnosed with MS at age 16, and she raced until she was 35. And if it does happen that Trevor has to step out next year, I think Chris Buescher will fill in, in cup and nationwide. 271. kup posted: 11.16.2013 - 9:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) UPS - universal points system. Points = Distance /divide/ Average Finish 2013 NationWide after Homestead TOP 5 UPS = Driver = Distance / Aver.Finish 1131 = Â Â Â Kyle Busch = 6334 5,6 923 = Â Â Â Austin Dillon = 8125 8,8 876 = Â Â Â Sam Hornish, Jr. = 7880 9,0 737 = Â Â Â Regan Smith = 8109 11,0 724 = Â Â Â Justin Allgaier = 8112 11,2 And Kyle Busch is the best and a way better than #3 or #12. Top 5 cars are: Toyota, Chevy, Ford, Chevy, Chevy. 272. Destroyahirismix666 posted: 11.16.2013 - 9:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Congratulations to Austin Dillon. Definetly who I would have rather had win the Championship this year, alebit It would have been nice to get a victory in also. But let me say this, the Nationwide series this year has been A f**kING DRAG! Change it to where Cup Drivers can only race 7 Nationwide events a year. That way if someone from the higher levels wants to take a spin in the Nationwide series to get familiar with a track's repave, they can, but we don't have Busch/Kes Domination! GODDDDDD NO! I'm SICK of it! And I'll be blunt, I will not be able to see Kyle equaling Petty's mark unless Kyle makes it a Nationwide and Cup only, as there was NO truck series prior to 1995. DUH. 273. jabber1990 posted: 11.16.2013 - 9:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I want to see the points if the Cup drivers were counted for points "how about Chidlress run the 03 and the 33...there now us fans are a bit quieter, and the Earnhardt fans won't complain as loud: what I meant is there are a lot of people who want the #3 retired, fine whatever, I don't care either way, but if you want to make everyone happy then run the 03 and the 33, the #3 loyalists probably wont complain as well, and if they do, its a grey area. its honoring the #3, the #3 is what gave Childress everything, now Childresses grandkids are honoring the #3 by running the #03 and the #33, I don't know if that's how I feel, but its how I think most people would look at it 274. jabber1990 posted: 11.16.2013 - 9:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think they said the #32 was too low on the left front 275. cjs3872 posted: 11.16.2013 - 10:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) BluesTravelerFan (#260), what's there to apologize for? You hit everything on the head. And given the number of top fives and top threes, I think Hornish would have beaten Dillon using any system where running up front is rewarded more than a system that makes a battle for second no more important than one for 32nd. And that's my only problem with the system that's currently used. And the Truck Series doesn't get totally off the hook here, because Matt Crafton easily won the title with just one win, a fact most ignore. That means that the two champions that have been crowned so far won a combined one race this season. Ryan Blaney won more races than the champions did combined, one in each series for a total of two. And DB1995, I'm not sure I agree with who would step in for Trevor if he had to get out of the car because Chris Buescher is already slated to drive one of Roush's other cars, so for that to happen, he would have shut one of his teams down. My guess is that he would go with one of his Cup drivers to fill the seat of the #6 car. And I think the Woods would prefer an experienced driver in their car, someone like Jeff Burton or Bobby Labonte, should that happen, especially in the short term. That's usually been their style, and it's usually worked. (Before Bayne, the last inexperienced driver they put in one of their cars was Swede Savage back in 1969.) But the fact that word leaked out that Roush was already talking about Chris Buescher running his iconic #6 car in the Cup Series next year if it got a sponsor probably answers that, because Roush probably already knew before anyone else that Trevor Bayne likely would never be able to physically hold up, and now we know why. 276. Mrittenhouse84 posted: 11.16.2013 - 11:01 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) I havent read all of the comments, And I am not defending a Winless Champion. But We should blame NASCAR and the Cup owners for allowing this series to become a mockery of what it once was. If you are not a Cup driver driving for a CUP team. you really have no shot at winning a race in this series. In the 33 race schedule, Only 3 times has a Nationwide regular won when Cup drivers have infiltrated the Lineup. That to me is a damn joke. So you really can't blame Austin for not winning a race,when they were all essentially running for 3rd place in the Running order at best. Dillon won the title by being the most consistent Regular for the season. Something that Pre-chase. All NASCAR champions were based upon. A Champion is Consistency over a year. Unless they bring the chase to The Nationwide and Trucks, That's what it will always be, based on Consistency. Matt Crafton is the same thing. He only won 1 race, Yet he was the most consistent driver all year. And yet no one complained... 277. DaleSrFanForever posted: 11.16.2013 - 11:06 pm Rate this comment: (8) (0) I still can't believe he bragged about winning the championship without winning a race. They are trying so hard to tie him to Earnhardt, but he drives like Terry Labonte as was mentioned earlier. Trevor Freaking Bayne roughed him up to beat him for a win this year. That is like the Easter Bunny stealing your candy. He can grow a beard and wear all the ridiculous hats, but until he starts showing some on track flair (if he weren't in the "iconic #3" would we even know he were in these races?) he needs to distance himself from Dale as much as possible. Dale grew up modestly to say the least, and drove his entire career like he was still broke despite the tens of millions of dollars he made from winning so much, endorsements, and royalties from The Intimidator Marketing Juggernaut. He also maintained a farm and did all the menial work himself. In an SI article released after winning his 4th Winston Cup in 1990, the author notes he is the first driver to win $11 million in earnings, to which Dale replies "you should see me at home on the farm, I guarantee you I don't look like no eleven millionaire". One of many famous Earnhardt-isms. Although it doesn't beat his interview for the mid race feature in The 1990 Winston when, recalling the Daytona 500 heartbreak from earlier in the year, he said "it would be hard to have a badder day than that". Hard to believe he was a 9th grade dropout huh? Anyways, Austin needs to watch Dale's championshil interview from 1991 after he won his 5th Winston Cup. I consider 1991 to be one of NASCAR's competitive peak years along with 1986. Dale won 4 times that year, but stumbled down the stretch, essentially winning the title by default. He entered the finale at Atlanta needing only to start the race to clinch The Cup. That meant he could race balls to the wall. But he never was a factor in the race and only finished 5th at his best track. He was pissed off! He wasn't bragging about shit. If you are gonna ride the coattails of Dale's legacy you better give the fans something to remember. And I blame Pop Pop for this. He's been filling his grandsons heads with this. He is trying so hard to recreate those glory days with Dale. And so is BSPN. Saying lots of kids want to be "the next Austin Dillon". That is crap. Unless your Pop Pop owned the car Dale Earnhardt drove for 17 years, you can't be. And saying he lights up every room he enters. That certainly isn't coming across on TV and definitely not on track. They have done Austin a hige disservice. He is being presented as the Second Coming Of Dale. That won't work. 278. cjs3872 posted: 11.16.2013 - 11:23 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) And @276, two of those three races were won by Regan Smith (Talladega and Michigan), and none of those races were after the month of June. Part of the problem is the points structure, which by it's very nature does not reward going for it up front. If it did, I think we might see a different brand of racing up front. In fact, until this year, no Cup driver had more than five wins in a season using the current points structure for exactly that reason. Last year, I came up with an idea where the drivers from 11th through the balance of the field get exactly what they currently get, but from 11th up, increased the difference in the points positions by two per position though sixth place, then three per position through second place, and then five points between first and second. That means that 11th place would get 33 points, which is what it gets now, but tenth would get 35, ninth 37, eighth 39, seventh 41, and would get sixth 43. From there, it goes to a 3-point bump per position, meaning fifth would get 46 points, fourth 49, third 52, and second would get 55 points, with the race winner getting 60 points, 61 if you include the automatic lap leader bonus point a winner must get for leading the race, as I would leave the lap leader bonus points as they are, making for a 62-point maximum a driver can get for any one race.. That means that the winner could get as much as a 27-point edge over tenth place in a race using my system, or gain as much as a 43.5% gain over the tenth place finisher in a given race. As it currently is, the winner would gain just a 29.1% gain over tenth place (14 points), if he earns maximum points and the tenth place finisher fails to get any bonus points. In other words, using my system, a race winner would effectively get twice the advantage over the tenth pace finisher he does with NASCAR's current system, and even as much as a 16-point gain on the fifth place finisher, which is more than the difference between first and tenth using NASCAR's current system. My system would actually make the drivers race harder, which I know is a foreign concept to a number of the top drivers today, including Jimmie Johnson, who's the best out there today. 279. Sean posted: 11.17.2013 - 12:05 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I'm all for consistency, but a champion who hasn't won a race is pathetic and NASCAR needs to do something about these Cup assholes." Screw consistency. I'm all for dominance being rewarded. Okay, the only drivers who were dominant were those in the #54 and the #22, but Hornish was more dominant than any of the other full-timers... The winless champion isn't surprising because Nationwide has very little noteworthy talent in it. Look at the top 20. Cup reject after Cup reject after Cup reject. Hornish, Smith, Sadler, Bayne (looks like he'll never get a full-season Cup ride), Vickers, M. Wallace, Bliss, Sorenson, Nemechek... Most of the interesting prospects were in trucks. The only interesting Nationwide prospects were Allgaier, Larson, and Bowman really... Bottom line: it would have reflected just as poorly on Nationwide to see Hornish win the title after failing so hard in a fairly significant number of Cup starts. I despised Hornish when he was in the IRL and they were hyping him up as their poster boy (the few members of the American media who still significantly cover IndyCar seem to think that one American star is the key to restoring IndyCar's popularity, so almost all American drivers get ridiculously overhyped relative to superior foreign drivers. At least Hornish more or less deserved it, but Danica, Marco, and Graham didn't, and strangely RHR and Buddy Rice didn't get that kind of hype). However, Dillon is SO annoying that I was forced to support Hornish anyway. I'm disappointed, but if the winless championship causes an uproar and if they FINALLY adjust the points standings correctly, it will have been worth it. I've always felt the bigger issue with the NASCAR points system is positions in the back half of the field scoring way too much (i.e. anything). I couldn't stand the Latford points system either because for instance it gives a 20th place finish way too much of an advantage over a 40th place finish, which ultimately means most titles are about who has fewer DNFs than who has more actual success, and DNFs can often come down to luck. I know NASCAR is never going to not give points outside the top 20 or top 25 like I want, but at least giving 11th-20th 2 points per position, 6th-10th 3 points per position, 2nd-5th 5 points per position, and winning 10 points would more properly reflect who was actually competitive in the race... "Well, Austin Dillon becomes the first driver in a major racing series to win championship without winning a race since Tom Sneva in 1978, when Sneva won the USAC IndyCar title without winning a race." You count Nationwide as a major series? I don't. If you do, then Indy Lights also has to count as a major series, and Oriol Servia won the 1999 Indy Lights championship without winning a race. His teammate Casey Mears finished 2nd in points that season, also without winning a race. And that was with a points system that actually reflected winning! "That's usually been their style, and it's usually worked. (Before Bayne, the last inexperienced driver they put in one of their cars was Swede Savage back in 1969.)" Elliott Sadler was the last inexperienced driver to drive for the Wood Brothers full-time. If you're counting Bayne, then you also have to count Jon Wood, who was also part-time. 280. Sean posted: 11.17.2013 - 12:07 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "The only interesting Nationwide prospects were Allgaier, Larson, and Bowman really..." I suppose I have to objectively call Dillon an interesting prospect, but I don't wanna... I still consider Ryan Blaney a truck driver. Kligerman seems like a Nationwide lifer a la Jason Keller (if that can even exist anymore in this environment...) 281. cjs3872 posted: 11.17.2013 - 12:17 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sean, I certainly consider the Nationwide Series to be a major series, as it's the second-highest series in NASCAR and probably the third-highest racing series in America, so yes I do consider it a major racing series. And also, when the Wood Brothers put Trevor Bayne in their car, he was far less experienced than either Elliott Sadler or Jon Wood. Sadler had already run two seasons in the Busch/Nationwide Series and had a few Cup starts with Diamond Ridge Racing, and Jon Wood had full seasons in both the Truck and Nationwide Series prior to being inserted into the #21 car. Bayne had nowhere near their experience level, which is why I didn't cite them. Not only that, but unlike either Sadler or Jon Wood, Bayne had never won a race in one of the major national touring series before being hired by the Woods. They had not put anyone that inexperienced in one of their cars since they put Swede Savage in a second car for the 1969 Daytona 500, and sadly, Bayne's career is now likely going end up a lot like Savage's was, tragically short, though not for the same reason. 282. Sean posted: 11.17.2013 - 12:31 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) A major league is the top level. A feeder series by definition cannot be major league. Just because NASCAR happens to greatly overshadow all other US racing sanctioning bodies in this country does not mean that its feeder series get to count as more significant major leagues than series that actually are major leagues for their form of racing. Sprint Cup = major league, Nationwide/trucks/ARCA = minor league IndyCar = major league, Indy Lights = minor league Grand-Am = major league, Continental Tire = minor league ALMS = major league, Cooper Tires Prototype Lites = minor league etc... etc... Just because Nationwide happens to be more popular than most of the other US major leagues does not make it a more significant series. And have you SEEN the quality of Nationwide lately? And especially in an era when IndyCar and sports cars seem to be getting it together (at least with regard to the quality of the racing; IndyCar continues to be run dysfunctionally but it seems that the merged sports car series has fixed even that...) My attitude is that no form of racing is inherently superior to any other form of racing or should be rated more highly, and I say that when there are a lot of forms of racing I myself don't watch. By your logic, college football should be considered a major league because it gets higher ratings than (for example) major league lacrosse... I understand your argument though. Where the money is, the talented drivers and personnel will follow. I just can't agree because skillful marketing usually determines what wins in any marketplace. I cannot view a series as pathetic as Nationwide as being superior to less popular major league series. Sprint Cup is not better than IndyCar today even though it is more popular. There were times in the late '80s/early '90s when NASCAR WAS better than CART even when CART was more popular, so it can go both ways. 283. Sean posted: 11.17.2013 - 12:37 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Even though I'll admit I've been much more of an IndyCar fanboy the past few years, I can acknowledge that Indy Lights is just as pathetic as Nationwide for many of the same reasons (nobody wants to sponsor minor league drivers in the US). NASCAR fixes it by having Cup drivers in the premier rides in Nationwide. IndyCar fixes it by having 8-10 car grids. But at least the developmental drivers are allowed to win Indy Lights races, and at least most Indy Lights champions win multiple races in a season and actually are the dominant drivers... Okay, this year Sage Karam beat Carlos Munoz on consistency when Munoz seems to be the much faster driver, but since Karam had only one fewer win, I'm okay with that. And there's a big symbolic difference at least between Munoz having 4 wins to Karam's 3 and Hornish having 1 win to Dillon's 0... 284. Sean posted: 11.17.2013 - 12:44 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) That's one of the many reasons IROC was total crap by the way. The Nationwide and truck champions got invited repeatedly (and later, even the ARCA champions, spare me!) while the CART/Champ Car, IRL/IndyCar, and sports car champions were frequently missing, and Cup got 5 drivers entered every year while you only saw a couple open-wheelers (and usually not the best ones...) A lot of the racing in IROC was good, but it couldn't be taken seriously after about 1993 because the driver selection was way too imbalanced. I fully acknowledge this bias can work both ways. I imagine a lot of Formula One fans would try to say GP2 is a major league and a more significant one than domestic series like Sprint Cup and IndyCar, which I would also strongly disagree with... 285. RCRandPenskeGuy posted: 11.17.2013 - 12:47 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Whoops, comment #76 about the owner's championship was from me. I was posting on another device and forgot to type in my username. Don't know what NASCAR was thinking by not red flagging the race and just keeping the caution out and letting the laps wind down. There should have been a restart with 15 to go, but instead we had one with 6 to go. I'll admit it, as much shit as I've given the owner's championship and for how often I've pointed out how Penske seemed to care more about that than going back to back in Cup, the battle for that between the #22 and #54 was the most exciting points battle in the Nationwide Series all year. And I cannot possibly agree more with everyone about Austin Dillon's championship being incomplete due to not winning a race. That's the same reason I was glad Matt Crafton had at least won a race this year in Trucks. I've spent the last five hours cringing to the moon, and I also second that I wouldn't be bragging about that if I had won the championship without winning a race. 286. Jarrett88fan posted: 11.17.2013 - 1:01 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) The only serious reason to watch the Nationwide Series is road-races and stand-alone races plus Daytona and Talladega... What a fitting end to a season that saw Hornish rack up a huge points lead twice and blow it, Regan Smith held a 58 point lead after winning Michigan in June before a rash of inexplicable events turned their season upside down, and a winless champion who top-fived his way down the stretch to the championship. 287. AutoRockinRacing94 posted: 11.17.2013 - 1:04 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) This year has been a huge disappointment from the moon and back in both Cup and Nationwide! It's like the WWE had taken over both series and predicted everything! A guy without winning a damn race wins the title, they need to limit the Cup guys to 5-7 races only! I'm okay with consistency wins titles, but this year should be a huge eye raiser for NASCAR! Eddie Kraewick (however it's spelled) won the Pro Stock Bikes title without winning a race a few years ago, with the Countdown no less! But that has happened in NHRA before back in the early 80s in Pro Stocks I believe. But that's different! Sucks that the flag man (according to MRN) was doing his job for the last time and got put in a difficult and sad ending! Should of have stopped the race and Hornish should have won the title. But his 10 year relationship with Penske ends without a trace (counting his IndyCar days too) and perhaps ruined any hope of getting a key ride next year. 288. AutoRockinRacing94 posted: 11.17.2013 - 1:05 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Plus, the title chase was a bust! Remember how there could have been 7-8 guys with a shot of the title? But everyone struggled like Sadler, Smith, Allgaier, and Vickers who were one of the favorites! Man, that tells you something! 289. OldSchoolNascarDude1 posted: 11.17.2013 - 1:22 am Rate this comment: (2) (0) Hopefully Trevor's symptoms continue to not appear for his illness. Curiously enough, one of my good friends was almost diagnosed with MS a few years ago after going through several spinal taps and other MS tests. Who was the person he had help him throughout the ordeal? Sarah Bayne, Trevor's sister, who also has MS. 290. DB1995 posted: 11.17.2013 - 1:49 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hey Webmaster, Trevor Baynes sponsor may suppose to be Cargill/WFG, it had World Financial group on the quarters 291. Sky Warrior posted: 11.17.2013 - 2:51 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) Missed all but the last 52 of this one. We had a tree fall in the front yard yesterday. I'm hearing talk now that Brian France has scheduled a press conference tomorrow to announce the unprecedented move of retroactively awarding a Nationwide win and points to Austin Dillon for running Eldora. He has the authority to do this unprecedented thing so NASCAR doesn't have a winless champion anymore I kid, of course. Depressing that jokes about this sport have reduced to that. All I can say good about this race was good runs for Whitt, Koch, Reed, Green, Long, Silas, and Hill. It's sad to hear Turner Scott is dropping a team next year, and I feel bad for the employees losing their jobs at Gibbs only, but not for the team. It's probably going to be either the #11 or the #20, JGR isn't interested in running Nationwide unless Cup guys are involved. Kyle Busch is full of crap about his team. How many sponsors was he thanking in his long-winded speech last night while accepting the Owner's Championship (so important is it) with his typical holier-than-thou attitude? And Monster is shelling out major cash to have Kyle run Nationwide, without a doubt he could get them to pay for a full season with his own team. One more race, one more champ, then we'll boogity into the winter 292. Anthony Kernich posted: 11.17.2013 - 3:11 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I am so glad to see Aussie Dillon win without winning! 293. Zackary Shawn posted: 11.17.2013 - 3:27 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Now wait a minute! A few months ago I received a lot of heat for saying that I thought the champion should have to win a race to legitimize his championship and I was pretty much crucified for it. Now it seems like that's a somewhat popularly held belief. Whatever though. I'm not offended. Anyway, I didn't get to watch the race because I was at the Auburn-Georgia game, but I understand there was a bit of controversy with caution flags there at the end. That Auburn game though...man. If you haven't seen how it ended I strongly encourage you too look it up. 294. gary posted: 11.17.2013 - 7:25 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) A joke of a season. He never won a race and Sam only once early! 295. cjs3872 posted: 11.17.2013 - 8:48 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) Well, only four races were won by championship-eligible drivers the entire season, two by Regan Smith (Talladega and Michigan), and one each by Sam Hornish, Jr. (Las Vegas) and Trevor Bayne (Iowa #1), and all but three of the final 20 races were won by just two cars, the 22 (with four different drivers) and 54 (all by Kyle Busch), and two of the other three were won by another JGR car, the #18 of Matt Kenseth at Daytona and Charlotte. The other race was won by Kevin Harvick at Atlanta. And Bayne likely wouldn't have won at Iowa had that race not been postponed by rain, because Brad Keselowski was originally scheduled to run in that one, and likely would have won. Certainly a lot of that has to do with the fact that Roush and Childress were both down this year, and Roush likely will be down again next year. But saying that, horsepower means a lot more in the Nationwide Series than it does the Cup Series, and Gibbs and Penske make much more horsepower than any other team does. After all, several high-speed tracks that are handling tracks in the Cup Series are horsepower tracks in the Nationwide Series, and Homestead is a good example of just such a track. Gibbs and Penske simply outmuscle everyone else, and will continue to do so, that, combined with the fact that they run Cup drivers will add up to the fact that they'll end run everyone else in the NNS next again year. 296. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.17.2013 - 10:46 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) For curiosity's sake, the points with cjs' proposed system Entering Homestead Hornish 1345 Dillon -31 Final Standings Hornish 1384 Dillon -38 297. MegaRacer posted: 11.17.2013 - 10:56 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Junior Niedecken won the NASCAR Grand American Stock Car Series in 1980 without winning a race. (The series ran from 1980-1983 and was equivalent to the Late Model Division, now Nationwide). 298. Anonymous posted: 11.17.2013 - 11:21 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) #01-Mike Wallace crew chief--Ricky Viers 299. DaleSrFanForever posted: 11.17.2013 - 11:25 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sean, I agree about IROC. I rememner the fun days in the 90s when Dale Earnhardt and Al Unser Jr were racing for the win on the last lap at Daytona. That was fun to see. At least until Dale misjudged the pass and wrecked Al. In all fairness, Dale was very shaken by this in victory lane, almost as shaken as he was after the 1993 Winston 500. That is how you know if it was on purpose with Dale. When it was (Richmond '86, Bristol '99) Dale could be seen visibly forcing back a huge smile. When it wasn't, he looked like he just accidentally ran over a dog. 300. Jim Davis posted: 11.17.2013 - 12:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) "And Monster is shelling out major cash to have Kyle run Nationwide, without a doubt he could get them to pay for a full season with his own team." Really? You know that for a fact? 301. DaleSrFanForever posted: 11.17.2013 - 2:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Junior Niedecken won the NASCAR Grand American Stock Car Series in 1980 without winning a race." How perfect. 1980 was the year Dale won his first Winston Cup driving that iconic RCR black #3 car, and now this Series has another winless champion driving that iconic RCR black #3 car. Hey, if BSPN gets to rewrite history, so can I! So what if Dale was driving a bright blue and yellow #2 Rod Osterlund car with patchwork sponsorship in 1980. Dale owes his success to Richard Childress right? Right? One similarity in all seriousness: of Dale's 7 Winston Cup championships, that was the only "hanging on for dear life" championship win of his. He entered that race 29 points ahead of Cale, but a comedy of errors in the pits by Dale and his crew had them looking like they were gonna choke it away in the last race. But they recovered thanks to some Ryan Blaney-esque restarts by Dale, winning by 19 points. But considering Dale was a second year driver on a third year team facing the Junior Johnson juggernaut with legend Cale Yarborough, one year removed from finishing his championship 3peat, I'd say they did alright. Of his other 6 Winston Cup titles, he clinched with two races left twice ('87, '94), with one race left once ('86), only had to take the green flag once ('91), had to finish 32nd or better once, finishing 10th after destroying the side of his car racing too hard ('93), and had to beat Mark straight up in 1990, which he did, never trailing Mark in the race. 302. Paul posted: 11.17.2013 - 6:16 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "only four races were won by championship-eligible drivers the entire season" Going off of this fact that cjs pointed out in post #295, I decided to look through the modern era history of the Nationwide Series (1982-present) and see how many races were won by series regulars, as opposed to Cup drivers, throughout the series' history. (Note: Drivers will be listed in order of wins from that season.) 1982: 20 of 29 races (Jack Ingram, Sam Ard, Butch Lindley, Tommy Houston, Tommy Ellis, Phil Parsons, John Settlemyre) 1983: 28 of 35 races (Ard, Ellis, Ingram, Houston, Lindley) 1984: 19 of 29 races (Ard, Ingram, Houston, Larry Pearson) 1985: 20 of 27 races (Ingram, Ellis, Jimmy Hensley, Brett Bodine, Pearson, Houston, Ronnie Silver) 1986: 17 of 31 races (Ingram, Houston, B. Bodine, Pearson, Dale Jarrett, L.D. Ottinger, Silver, Butch Miller, Chuck Bown,) 1987: 19 of 27 races (Pearson, Mark Martin, Rick Mast, Hensley, Ingram, Jarrett, Mike Alexander, Brad Teague, Larry Pollard, Ellis, Jamie Aube) 1988: 16 of 30 races (Ellis, Pearson, Houston, Rob Moroso, Mast, Alexander, Hensley, Dick McCabe) 1989: 19 of 29 races (Moroso, Houston, Ellis, Jimmy Spencer, Mast, Ottinger, Ronald Cooper, Bobby Hamilton, Robert Pressley) 1990: 21 of 31 races (Bown, Steve Grissom, Houston, Mast, Hensley, Ellis, Ottinger, Jeff Burton) 1991: 18 of 31 races (Bown, Hensley, Bobby Labonte, Kenny Wallace, Ricky Craven, Pressley, Todd Bodine, Grissom, Burton, David Green, Miller) 1992: 24 of 31 races (Pressley, Labonte, T. Bodine, Jeff Gordon, Joe Nemechek, Spencer, K. Wallace, Ward Burton, J. Burton, Houston, Grissom, Bobby Dotter) 1993: 16 of 28 races (W. Burton, Pressley, T. Bodine, Grissom, Bown, Hermie Sadler, Tracy Leslie, J. Burton, Johnny Rumley) 1994: 12 of 28 races (K. Wallace, Craven, Dennis Setzer, D. Green, H. Sadler, Johnny Benson, Elton Sawyer, Parsons) 1995: 16 of 26 races (Chad Little, Benson, Pearson, Mike McLaughlin, Jason Keller, Tim Fedewa, D. Green, K. Wallace, Rumley) 1996: 13 of 26 races (Randy LaJoie, D. Green, Jeff Purvis, T. Bodine, Kevin Lepage, Jeff Fuller, Buckshot Jones) 1997: 15 of 30 races (LaJoie, Steve Park, Elliott Sadler, McLaughlin, T. Bodine, Joe Bessey) 1998: 20 of 31 races (Dale Earnhardt, Jr., Matt Kenseth, McLaughlin, Fedewa, E. Sadler, LaJoie, Jones, Lepage, Ed Berrier) 1999: 20 of 32 races (Dale Jr., Kenseth, Jeff Green, Casey Atwood, Keller, Sawyer, LaJoie, Andy Santerre) 2000: 15 of 32 races (J. Green, Kevin Harvick, Ron Hornaday, Keller, T. Bodine, LaJoie, Fedewa 2001: 23 of 33 races (Harvick*, Greg Biffle, J. Green, LaJoie, Keller, McLaughlin, Jimmie Johnson, K. Wallace, Hank Parker, Jr., Purvis, Ryan Newman) 2002: 22 of 34 races (Biffle, Keller, Scott Wimmer, Jamie McMurray, Scott Riggs, Jack Sprague, Bobby Hamilton, Jr., Hank Jr., Johnny Sauter, T. Bodine, Purvis) 2003: 17 of 34 races (Bobby Jr., Brian Vickers, D. Green, Riggs, Hornaday, Keller, Kasey Kahne, Sauter, Wimmer) 2004: 16 of 34 races (Martin Truex, Jr., Kyle Busch, Hornaday, Mike Bliss, Jason Leffler, Mike Wallace, Justin Labonte) 2005: 12 of 35 races (Truex, Clint Bowyer, Reed Sorenson, D. Green, Sauter) 2006: 2 of 35 races (Paul Menard, David Gilliland) 2007: 4 of 35 races (David Reutimann**, Leffler, Stephen Leicht, Aric Almirola) 2008: 5 of 35 races (Brad Keselowski, Marcos Ambrose, Wimmer, Joey Logano) 2009: 5 of 35 races (Keselowski, Bliss) 2010: 1 of 35 races (Justin Allgaier) 2011: 6 of 34 races (Ricky Stenhouse, Jr., Allgaier, Sorenson, Trevor Bayne, Sam Hornish, Jr.) 2012: 15 of 33 races (Stenhouse, E. Sadler, Austin Dillon, Allgaier, James Buescher***, Nelson Piquet, Jr.***) 2013: 5 of 33 races (Regan Smith, Hornish, Bayne, Ryan Blaney) * - I consider Harvick's 2001 season to be the exception, rather than the rule, for drivers who run the full schedule in both Busch and Cup due to the circumstances surrounding his full-time Cup run. ** - Because Reutimann DNQ'd 8 times (and skipped the road courses) in Cup in 2007, but competed in all 35 Busch races that season, I decided to list him as a Busch Series regular. *** - While Buescher and Piquet (2012) and Blaney (2013) were ineligible for Nationwide Series points in the seasons when they won in the Nationwide Series, they weren't Cup drivers at the time, so I listed them anyways. 303. Paul posted: 11.17.2013 - 6:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) My bad. Ryan Blaney should have three asterisks next to his name when I listed the 2013 winners. 304. BradKeselowski2Fan posted: 11.17.2013 - 7:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 2005 wasn't too bad, and then 2006 just went straight down the toilet. 305. Anonymous posted: 11.17.2013 - 9:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well assuming this series continues next season, what are folks predictions? 306. Tyson posted: 11.18.2013 - 9:18 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kevin Buskirk was not the crew chief on the race winning car #48 this weekend. It was in fact Brad's Cup crew chief, Paul Wolfe. 307. Anonymous posted: 11.18.2013 - 8:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #01-Mike Wallace crew chief-Ricky Viers 308. CBASS posted: 11.18.2013 - 11:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsor updates #01 Corporate Caterers (MC2 was only an associate) #6 Cargill Our Certified/ WorldFinancialGroup.com #14 Hefty Ultimate with Arm & Hammer #16 Lilly Diabetes/ DriveToStopDiabetes.org #31 Brandt Professional Agriculture #55 VivaAutoGroup.com #60 Nitro Circus Live/ Nitro City 309. joey2448 posted: 11.19.2013 - 1:21 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) For a brief period of time, starting in 2011 when NASCAR made the rule that drivers had to pick which series they earned points in, it looked like Nationwide-only drivers would be winning most of the races again, and Paul's list in post #302 shows that in 2012, 15 races of 33 were won by Nationwide-only drivers. But somehow, that trend has reversed itself again. What the hell happened??? Did guys like Kyle Busch decide that they wanted to win more races, and since Jimmie Johnson was just too much to handle in the Cup races, they would go back to running more Nationwide races??? 310. RCRandPenskeGuy posted: 11.21.2013 - 1:25 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) I noticed that too, Joey. It might have something to do with Ricky Stenhouse moving up into Cup and the other guys not being able to step it up like last year (Dillon, Sadler, Allgaier). At least we got Regan Smith winning multiple races as a Nationwide-only driver, and I'm curious to see how he does in the future. Hope soon he gets another chance at Cup. He proved he can handle high pressure situations by winning at Darlington in the #78, and having two Top 10 runs (one of them being interrupted by an engine failure) subbing for Dale Jr in the #88 last year. 311. Anonymous posted: 11.21.2013 - 9:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ricky Viers was the crew chief on the #01 JD Motorsports Mike Wallace car. 312. Anonymous posted: 12.04.2013 - 9:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ricky Viers was the crew chief on the #01 JD Motorsports Mike Wallace car. 313. ch posted: 12.05.2013 - 7:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsor Change 14 - Hefty Ultimate with Arm & Hammer 314. numbah10hatah posted: 01.09.2014 - 8:46 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Webmaster, I love what you did with the DNQs. 315. SpiderTre posted: 01.17.2014 - 2:29 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) final race for ML Motorsports as they have closed up shop 316. RCRandPenskeGuy posted: 02.01.2014 - 5:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hopefully Johanna Long can find a ride elsewhere. She showed quite a bit during her time in the #70. 317. Anonymous posted: 04.06.2014 - 12:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #01-Mike Wallace crew chief--Ricky Viers 318. NASCARLover22 posted: 05.25.2015 - 7:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (3) Winner of each race of the season if full time cup drivers weren't entered (RU means runner-up): 1-Sam Hornish Jr. RU-Alex Bowman 2-Justin Allgaier RU-Trevor Bayne 3-Sam Hornish Jr. RU-Brian Vickers 4-Kyle Larson RU-Brian Vickers 5-Sam Hornish Jr. RU-Regan Smith 6-Austin Dillon RU-Regan Smith 7-Brian Vickers RU-Regan Smith 8-Regan Smith RU-Justin Allgaier 9-Elliott Sadler RU-Brian Vickers 10-Kyle Larson RU-Trevor Bayne 11-Brian Vickers RU-Trevor Bayne 12-Trevor Bayne RU-Austin Dillon 13-Regan Smith RU-Kyle Larson 14-Justin Allgaier RU-Parker Kligerman 15-Elliott Sadler RU-Matt Crafton 16-James Buescher RU-Elliott Sadler 17-Brian Vickers RU-Austin Dillon 18-Sam Hornish Jr. RU-Austin Dillon 19-Brian Scott RU-Brian Vickers 20-Sam Hornish Jr. RU-Brian Vickers 21-Sam Hornish Jr. RU-Brian Vickers 22-Sam Hornish Jr. RU-Max Papis 23-Austin Dillon RU-Justin Allgaier 24-Sam Hornish Jr. RU-Kyle Larson 25-Brian Scott RU-Regan Smith 26-Sam Hornish Jr. RU-Austin Dillon 27-Ryan Blaney RU-Austin Dillon 28-Kyle Larson RU-Brian Vickers 29-Regan Smith RU-Justin Allgaier 30-Austin Dillon RU-Sam Hornish Jr. 31-Sam Hornish Jr. RU-Austin Dillon 32-Justin Allgaier RU-Austin Dillon 33-Kyle Larson RU-Trevor Bayne Top performers: Name Wins T5 T10 Sam Hornish Jr. 10 23 27 Austin Dillon 3 20 28 Trevor Bayne 1 13 26 Justin Allgaier 3 10 25 Elliott Sadler 2 12 24 Regan Smith 3 15 22 Brian Scott 2 5 23 Kyle Larson 4 14 21 Parker Kligerman 0 12 18 319. Premium Doesn't Suck 62 66 94 98 posted: 10.09.2015 - 8:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 2013 Nationwide DNQ count: 1. Morgan Shepherd, 11 2. Joey Gase, 7 3. Dexter Stacey, Chase Miller, Carl Long, 5 4. Danny Efland, 4 5. Derrike Cope, 3 6. Michael McDowell, Jason Bowles, Stanton Barrett, J.J. Yeley, Matt DiBenedetto, Mike Harmon, Josh Wise, 2 7. Bobby Gerhart, Brendan Gaughan, Kevin Swindell, Tony Raines, Scott Riggs, Jason White, Jamie Dick, Derek Thorn, John Wes Townley, Bryan Silas, Tanner Berryhill, Blake Koch, Tim Schendel, T.J. Bell, Kevin Lepage, David Starr, Martin Roy, Brett Butler, 1 32 drivers DNQ'd at least one time 14 drivers with at least two 7 drivers with at least three 6 drivers with at least four 5 drivers with at least five 2 drivers with at least seven 320. Windows Millennium Edition posted: 05.08.2016 - 8:07 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Withdrew: WD|Blake Koch|29|CompassionRacing.com|Robby Benton|Toyota 321. Mannoroth posted: 03.27.2017 - 7:15 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) Joe Gibbs Racing and Penske Racing were the teams to beat in the 2013 Nationwide Series season. Their primary cars (JGR's 54 and Penske's 22) won 12 times each plus Sam Hornish Jr. scored one win in the #12 car and Brad Keselowski scored his 7th season win in #48 car for Penske Racing and Matt Kenseth won twice in the JGR's #18 car. In total, they won 28 out of 33 races. But: Sam Hornish Jr. was 2nd in the race Tony Stewart won, Joey Logano was 2nd in the first race Regan Smith won, Elliott Sadler was 3rd in the race Trevor Bayne won, Kyle Busch was 4th in the second race Regan Smith won and Kyle Busch was 2nd in the race Kevin Harvick won. That's a crazy domination... 322. Brandon posted: 04.03.2018 - 6:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) A total of 4 manufacturers raced in the 33 races in 2013, here is how many races each showed up to. Chevrolet: 33 Ford: 33 Dodge: 18 Toyota: 33 323. Jimmie4life posted: 12.18.2019 - 11:04 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) When people complain about the chase system and rewarding drivers who have 0 wins, Austin Dillon won this season with rhe "most points at the end of the year is the champ" format without a single trip to victory lane. Yeah, you can argue that drivers such as Keselowski or Busch should've won for the simple reason of the Xfinity drivers only allowed to score points change in 2010, and even then, it still proves a point that even in the old format, ypi don't need to win to be champ. 324. Mile501 posted: 12.18.2019 - 11:17 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) But even though Dillon didn't win (in a season dominated by Cup drivers), he did at least score the most points throughout the entire season. Compare that to the current playoff format, where a driver can fail to win while only earning about the 5th-most points throughout the season and still become the champion based on the outcome of one race (see Matt Crafton in 2019 or, almost, Ryan Newman in 2014). 325. SweetRich posted: 07.06.2020 - 8:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The final race for car owner Mike Curb. 326. SweetRich posted: 07.08.2020 - 10:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The final career race for Michael Annett competing in the #43 Richard Petty Motorsports Ford before making the jump to The NASCAR Sprint Cup Series in 2014. 327. SweetRich posted: 07.08.2020 - 10:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The final race for Mike Wallace competing for JD Motorsports in the #01 Chevrolet. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Post a comment:* Your comment may not appear immediately - all comments must be approved by the moderator. Name: Comment: