|| *Comments on the 2014 ToyotaCare 250:* View the most recent comment <#99> | Post a comment <#post> 1. jabber1990 posted: 04.25.2014 - 4:16 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Nationwide Series Debut for Daniel Suarez 2. Anonymous posted: 04.25.2014 - 4:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Qualifying for this race was just barely gotten in due to approaching weather. Just as the second shootout session was ending, raindrops began hitting the camera lenses around the track. The most notable of the final 12 drivers in qualifying was Landon Cassill. What a run he had! 3. 18fan posted: 04.25.2014 - 4:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Last fall at Richmond Brian Scott started on the pole and led the first 239 laps before getting passed by Brad Keselowski on a late restart. He's on the pole again trying for redemption and his first NNS win. Also good to see the top 7 being Nationwide regulars. 4. Anonymous posted: 04.25.2014 - 4:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Whoa now, no cup drivers in the top seven? Cassill in tenth? 5. DB1995 posted: 04.25.2014 - 5:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 1 truck regular up there, but still a great 8 out of 10 6. epzik8 posted: 04.25.2014 - 5:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I wonder if they can still get this in tonight with the rain and storms. 7. murb posted: 04.25.2014 - 5:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Like 18Fan said, maybe this will be a redemption race for Brian Scott. He was so close to winning here last year. I'd love to see him get it done. 8. numbah10hatah posted: 04.25.2014 - 6:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) jabber1990: It's also the Nationwide debut of Josh Reaume in the #23 and Jimmy Weller III in the #55. AND LANDON CASSILL!!! Wow! 9. Sarf52 posted: 04.25.2014 - 6:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Only 3 cup regulars in tonight's race, this is crazy 10. DH101 posted: 04.25.2014 - 6:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Cassil is a better driver than most think he is honestly. Anyways yay my favorite Nwide drivers are starting 2nd, 3rd, and 4th 11. The Long Shot posted: 04.25.2014 - 6:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Cassill is young enough and talented enough that he could easily get a top-flight ride and have success with it. He has championship-caliber potential, and it's unfortunate that it might never get realized. 12. Sarf52 posted: 04.25.2014 - 6:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Also Matt DiBenedetto had a pretty alright qualifying run in the S&P 46, maybe they'll let him try to run the full race. Remember when we all dubbed him the second coming of NASCAR christ? That was a mistake...still think he could win in the Nationwide Series in good equipment though. 13. Anonymous posted: 04.25.2014 - 7:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Forgive me if this is a silly question, but why is ESPN replaying the Southern 200? 14. WinstonCup4Ever posted: 04.25.2014 - 7:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The start and pre race has been moved back due to the weather. That is why. Looks like I'll have another condensed race on tape plus another copy as well. 15. WinstonCup4Ever posted: 04.25.2014 - 7:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @14: I was gone to State High School Forensics in Madison, WI, perfect score in radio speaking. I finish now 3 for 4 since I'm a Senior. That is why I recorded Darlington NNS two weeks ago for those that care. 16. numbah10hatah posted: 04.25.2014 - 7:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Long Shot: Completely agree with everything you said. Cassill is a very underrated driver doing a tremendous job in the #01, and doing solid in the #40 on the Cup side. Not to mention he got a little TV time at Auto Club because of that "What have we got to lose?" move. 17. murb posted: 04.25.2014 - 7:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) At least ESPN is smart enough to have a huge "Previously Recorded" watermark up in the corner. Fox could have saved themselves a lot of embarrassment had they done that at the Daytona 500. 18. Anonymous posted: 04.25.2014 - 7:40 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I wonder how many dipshits this time thought the Nationwide race was a live event tonight, when in reality it was a rebroadcast of the race at Darlington two weeks ago? 19. Anonymous posted: 04.25.2014 - 7:44 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) The race is on ESPNEWS tonight isn't it? 20. We need more Onion posted: 04.25.2014 - 7:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Cassill is being really fast all year, hopefully he can pull a top 10 and a Nationwide regular can win this one. On the case of DiBenedetto though; He'll park. No matter how well he qualifies, the #46 will park. 21. WinstonCup4Ever posted: 04.25.2014 - 7:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @17 They did remind viewers that it was a Daytona 500 re air while 2014 race was rain delayed through a bottomline scroll. Sadly people don't pay attention to what information is given to them. 22. RaceFanX posted: 04.25.2014 - 8:10 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) They stated it on the air during the 500 several times too. 23. Dave #38 Fan-Go Gilliland! posted: 04.25.2014 - 9:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Also Matt DiBenedetto had a pretty alright qualifying run in the S&P 46, maybe they'll let him try to run the full race. Remember when we all dubbed him the second coming of NASCAR christ? That was a mistake...still think he could win in the Nationwide Series in good equipment though." The #46 is always Curtis Key's start and park car, although it would be nice if he would get to run the #40 car during the non-companion races coming up that Josh Wise probably won't be running. Was picked him as a future potential superstar a mistake? We'll never know (thanks J.D. Gibbs!) He and Brad Coleman both got completely hosed by the team in 2010. I think both could have been weekly contenders in NNS if J.D. wasn't obsessed with running cup drivers and both could have been solid, Jamie McMurray type drivers in cup as well. 24. Jim Davis posted: 04.25.2014 - 9:17 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "We'll never know (thanks J.D. Gibbs!) ..." Be fair. Monster Energy and Dollar General had a lot more to do with it than J. D. Gibbs. 25. Dave #38 Fan-Go Gilliland! posted: 04.25.2014 - 9:36 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Be fair. Monster Energy and Dollar General had a lot more to do with it than J. D. Gibbs." To a certain degree. But Gibbs shows way more preference to their cup and (and treats development drivers worse) than any other organization. The most telling example I can think of right now is in 2011 when McDowell was racing the #18 NNS car at Road America, he mentioned that they were using Todd Bodine's truck pit crew (trucks had an off weekend). When they're not running cup guys, they don't even bother to use the same crew as they do with the cup guys same thing happens at nearly ever stand-alone NNS race with the Gibbs cars. While the sponsors do have a lot of say as to who drives the car, it's the owner that makes the final decision. I don't lay all the blame on J.D. Gibbs, but there's a lot he could have done differently. Even last year, J.D. Gibbs took their best crew chief on the NNS side (Adam Stevens) and paired him Busch, and their rookie crew chief (Chris Gayle) and paired him with Elliott Sadler. They put more importance on winning 12 races with Busch and going after the owners championship, which, I cannot stress enough, no one outside of the owners themselves and the ESPN announcers gives 2 shits about, over maybe winning 3-4 races with Elliott Sadler (their NNS only guy) and a good chance at the drivers championship, which is what actually matters. 20 years from now, people will look back to see who won the drivers championship, not the owners championship. That's where 100% of their focus should be. 26. Jim Davis posted: 04.25.2014 - 9:46 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "While the sponsors do have a lot of say as to who drives the car, it's the owner that makes the final decision." I've never seen it, of course, but I would bet heavily that Monster Energy's contract with JGR has Kyle Busch's name and the number of races he drives featured prominently. 27. DB1995 posted: 04.25.2014 - 9:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That was an anthem everyone liked 28. AveryNH posted: 04.25.2014 - 10:10 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I always thought B. Coleman blew his opportunities. He quit Gibbs to drive the old 27 mike curb entry, quit that ride to drive the 96 cup car... got fired, I think, then wound up back at Gibbs and only mustered a top 5 and 6 top 10's 29. joey2448 posted: 04.25.2014 - 10:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Fog has descended upon RIR...but they're gonna go racing! 30. Schroeder51 posted: 04.25.2014 - 10:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Crash already. Kevin Lepage is in the wall on the backstretch. 31. Dave #38 Fan-Go Gilliland! posted: 04.25.2014 - 10:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I always thought B. Coleman blew his opportunities. He quit Gibbs to drive the old 27 mike curb entry, quit that ride to drive the 96 cup car... got fired, I think, then wound up back at Gibbs and only mustered a top 5 and 6 top 10's" Gibbs could only offer him a part-time ride in 2007, that's why he left for Curb. Then he signed to drive the rest of the season in the #96 cup car-who them fired him after 1 race for some reason. When he returned to Gibbs, they only ran him in about 5 races a year (without the teams regular pit crew) and was actually leading inside of 10 laps to go at Road America in 2010 when he was pushed off the track on a restart by Brad Keselowski. 32. David posted: 04.25.2014 - 10:49 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) "I was gone to State High School Forensics in Madison, WI, perfect score in radio speaking. I finish now 3 for 4 since I'm a Senior. That is why I recorded Darlington NNS two weeks ago for those that care." Put 'er there! I myself am going to State Festival Forensics next weekend in Wichita, competing in extemporaneous speaking. 33. luigistarted06 posted: 04.25.2014 - 10:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Is it just me, of is Derrike Cope actually running half way decent tonight 34. murb posted: 04.25.2014 - 10:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yeah, Brad Coleman definitely blew it when he left JGR for Brewco (or Baker-Curb, whatever they were called then). I never thought he was that great, but I still think he could have become a serviceable driver had he got more experience in good equipment. He did have a few notable runs in the 18 car, including the Road America race that Dave #38 mentioned. The ultimate JGR "what if" driver that I will always wonder about though is Aric Almirola. I really like Aric a lot, and I'm really happy to see him running well in the 43 car for The King right now. But if he had stuck around with JGR for just one more year (which would have been 2008), he might have wound up in the 20 Cup car in 2009 instead of Logano (who basically only got the ride because no one else was available - JGR has even admitted that in the time since Joey left). So I can't help but wonder how that would have turned out. I myself think Aric would have done really well in that car. 35. DB1995 posted: 04.25.2014 - 11:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The fog is absolutely ridiculous per twitter 36. SpeedWorld97 posted: 04.25.2014 - 11:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "The fog is absolutely ridiculous per twitter" Based on the ESPN telecast, it's been getting worse it seems. Thank goodness this isn't a road course, or otherwise it would be very dangerous. While this fog isn't affecting the drivers, it's probably preventing the spectators from seeing certain parts of the track from their seats. 37. Jarrett88fan posted: 04.25.2014 - 11:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Friday Night Fog 250 Presented by ToyotaCare 38. Schroeder51 posted: 04.25.2014 - 11:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The last time I remember seeing a race this affected by fog was the '06 Daytona 500... 39. Dave #38 Fan-Go Gilliland! posted: 04.25.2014 - 11:14 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "The ultimate JGR "what if" driver that I will always wonder about though is Aric Almirola. I really like Aric a lot, and I'm really happy to see him running well in the 43 car for The King right now. But if he had stuck around with JGR for just one more year (which would have been 2008), he might have wound up in the 20 Cup car in 2009 instead of Logano (who basically only got the ride because no one else was available - JGR has even admitted that in the time since Joey left). So I can't help but wonder how that would have turned out. I myself think Aric would have done really well in that car." After Milwaukee 2007, I don't blame Aric for leaving Gibbs, even if staying might have been a better career move. BTW, that race is pretty much definitive proof that J.D. Gibbs doesn't give jack $#$@ about his non-cup drivers. 40. Sector posted: 04.25.2014 - 11:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm quite happy for Chase Elliott. Running in 2nd, behind teammate Kevin Harvick! threepeat? No matter, if he keeps this up, he will for sure be seriously hard to beat for the championship this year. What is the owner's standing as of now by the way? Is Chase Elliott/The 9 team on top or is the 54 leading as always? I can't seem to find it on nascar.com -_- 41. murb posted: 04.25.2014 - 11:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Tough break for Suarez. 42. Schroeder51 posted: 04.25.2014 - 11:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Big problems for Daniel Suarez. He has a fire on the right front of his car. 43. Jarrett88fan posted: 04.25.2014 - 11:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) With the exception of Suarez, the cars have been pretty under the lights. 44. Schroeder51 posted: 04.25.2014 - 11:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Debris caution. 45. DB1995 posted: 04.25.2014 - 11:35 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Stupid crew chief move of the race so far, Chad Norris for Trevor Bayne, leaving him out for two shits of forever on tires that were already shit 30 laps ago 46. Jarrett88fan posted: 04.25.2014 - 11:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If there is a late caution, four tires is the way to go. The tire conservation makes for interesting racing. 47. Jarrett88fan posted: 04.25.2014 - 11:49 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Major props for the Dick Trickle reminiscent moment among Rusty, Andy, and Allen. 48. cjs3872 posted: 04.25.2014 - 11:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Someone explain this one to me. Just before the caution came out, Trevor Bayne got lapped just after his pit stop, and was still one lap behind Kevin Harvick when the caution came out and pitted with the leaders. And he was not the free pass car (Brendan Gaughan was), so how does ESPN's ticker (and apparently NASCAR scoring) have him on the same lap with the leaders? By pitting, he was not eligible for the wave-around, and he pitted too soon under the caution. In other words, it appears that NASCAR scoring has Bayne one lap ahead of where he should be in the race. They have him tenth, when he should be 18th, one lap behind the leader. 49. Schroeder51 posted: 04.25.2014 - 11:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Dylan Kwasniewski is in the wall. 50. joey2448 posted: 04.25.2014 - 11:56 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) What's he gonna do, throw his massively-brimmed Rockstar hat at the #60? Lol.. 51. cjs3872 posted: 04.26.2014 - 12:00 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) You mean the #16, joey2448? And I wonder who the free pass is on this caution, because by following the race, it should go to Trevor Bayne, but NASCAR has him one lap ahead of where he should be in the race and in ninth after the pit stops, when he should be the last car on the lead lap (or ineligible for the free pass by pitting with the leaders when he was one lap down, and he was still one lap down at the time of caution the way I've been following he race). 52. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 12:02 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Elliott Sadler spins his tires on the restart and he and Regan Smith get together and spin out. 53. New14 & 88Fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 12:02 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Great job by everyone missing the Elliott Sadler/Regan Smith spin. That could of been ugly. 54. Jarrett88fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 12:03 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wow Elliott Sadler is a wheelman. 55. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 12:05 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) On the Kwasniewski crash, to me it looked like Ryan Reed just ran him over. 50 to go. Hopefully Chase or Blaney can beat Harvick. 56. Jarrett88fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 12:05 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bayne is being shown in 8th with 50 laps to go. 57. Dave #38 Fan-Go Gilliland! posted: 04.26.2014 - 12:07 am Rate this comment: (2) (0) Dylan Kwasniewski is such a hypocrite, complaining about not having respect from other drivers. You have to give respect to get it, and even discounting his performance so far this year, he was blocking the #16 in the corner every corner for about 10 laps before he finally got dumped. 58. cjs3872 posted: 04.26.2014 - 12:17 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) But Jarrett88fan, we know he was lapped by Kevin Harvick just after his green flag pit stop, and did not unlap himself prior to the caution that quickly followed, nor was he the free pass car on that caution. And yet, not only did he pit with the leaders, but was shown on the same lap when we all knew he had been lapped, so at the very least, he should be the last car on the lead lap, if not one lap down because he would have been the free pass car on the next caution, but he again pitted with the leaders, which would have made him ineligible for the free pass. So while NASCAR has him near the top ten, he's actually one lap down the way I see the race as having unfolded to this point. I thought this kind of scoring mess would be avoided by the transponders the cars have. Fortunately, Trevor's not a contender in this race or this would have a possibility of becoming a real mess. 59. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 12:27 am Rate this comment: (1) (1) Kevin Harvick dominates and wins yet again at Richmond... Well, it was better than seeing Kyle Busch dominate and win, but it does feel disappointing to see a Cup driver dominate and win again after a few races won by a Nationwide regular... 60. Jim Davis posted: 04.26.2014 - 12:27 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) How does Landon Cassill edge Ty Dillon? 61. Jarrett88fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 12:28 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well said CJS. 62. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 12:28 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Also, I'm starting to think Chase Elliott has to be the early favorite to win the championship... 63. TS1420 posted: 04.26.2014 - 12:28 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Welp, back to the status quo in the Nationwide Series. 64. DB1995 posted: 04.26.2014 - 12:31 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I was thinking the same thing about Trevor being a lap down, i have no idea how that worked 65. Jarrett88fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 12:35 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I wonder who will drive the JR Motorsports #5 car for the road races? 66. cjs3872 posted: 04.26.2014 - 1:02 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) You know it's pretty bad that even with the transponders that NASCAR can't even score a race properly, because now that the results have been released, we know that the 11th-19th place finishers are not in the proper places, because NASCAR credited Trevor Bayne with one lap too many, as he was one lap down the entire second half of the race, but after the third caution, NASCAR put him on the lead lap when he was clearly one lap behind. Not only that, but he pitted with the leaders, which should have drawn a penalty because he was pitting on the wrong lap. He was not the free pass car on that caution, either, as there was one car ahead of him that was one lap down, but by pitting with the leaders, he would have been ineligible by pitting on the wrong lap. And NASCAR has apparently "credited" Bayne with finishing 11th, when everyone that saw the race knew Bayne was one lap down and finishing 19th, except ESPN, who never once brought up the obvious error, or NASCAR, who for some unexplained reason, put Bayne up with the leaders on the next restart, and never corrected the error on that, or the next caution, so they ended up crediting Bayne for completing one more lap than he actually completed, which moved him eight spots higher in the finishing order than he actually finished. Let's hope FOX, either on the NASCAR RaceDay show, in the pre-race, or during the race itself, brings this scoring snafu up. I know I would have had I been on that broadcast tonight, because it was obvious to everyone watching that NASCAR had Bayne on the wrong lap for the last 100 laps, and ESPN never even mentioned anything about the error, which was obvious to everyone watching. 67. FHgrad99 posted: 04.26.2014 - 1:43 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) From what I read on Twitter, Jimmy Weller's debut was almost over before it began. It sounds like he had problems coming up through the gears at the start of the race and that is why he was out after 1 lap. 68. 1995z71 posted: 04.26.2014 - 1:48 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Crap, I thought this race got postponed til Saturday. oh well, i didn't want to see another Cup guy winning in NNS anyways. 69. cjs3872 posted: 04.26.2014 - 2:04 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well 1995z71, the only notable thing about this race was a big scoring snafu that took place during the third caution that put Trevor Bayne a lap ahead of where he was actually running, which was an error that ESPN didn't mention, nor did NASCAR try to correct, which they had chances to do, and resulted in Bayne finishing seven spots ahead of where he would have finished had NASCAR scored this race properly. Bayne was credited with finishing 11th, when he really finished 18th, one lap behind the leaders. 70. joey2448 posted: 04.26.2014 - 2:17 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I don't see how it was that obvious, cjs. I mean, when I'm watching a race (like the one tonight) it's not always easy to keep track of stuff like running position because the TV broadcast doesn't show every single driver on the track, and it's simply not practical to be able to know who is on the lead lap at all times and who isn't, especially on a short track like Richmond. I'm not disagreeing with you about Bayne. I believe you when you say he was a lap down from where he actually finished, but if you hadn't mentioned it, I don't think anyone would've known because that sort of thing can easily get passed up. 71. cjs3872 posted: 04.26.2014 - 2:42 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Joey2448, what made the situation regarding Bayne so obvious was that after his green flag pit stop, we saw Kevin Harvick lap him on the back straightaway as he was getting back up to speed, and the ESPN ticker just before they went to break even showed Bayne as being one lap behind the leaders. So it was obvious to everyone watching that he was a lap down, and well behind the leader on the track (by around 2.5 seconds). Then after the caution came out on lap 152, ESPN mentioned that Brendan Gaughan was the free pass car because Harvick had just lapped him, which made Bayne the second car off the lead lap, and thus not the free pass car. What made the situation even worse was that Bayne, who was one lap behind, pitted with the leaders, which is an infraction of the rules, but instead of putting him at the back of the field, NASCAR lined him up among the leaders AND on the same lap, meaning that he either gained a lap on the field during the caution, or NASCAR gave him credit for one lap too many (and I believe the latter is the case). And NASCAR never went about correcting that error on the subsequent cautions, which there were two of. Normally what you said is true for the reasons you mentioned, but this error was blatantly obvious because the driver in question was shown being lapped, and never got his lap back by any of the required methods, and yet even ESPN never mentioned it after the error happened, possibly because they couldn't even believe what had happened because they knew Bayne had been lapped, and they couldn't believe that he had gotten his lap back because of what had to be an error by NASCAR. 72. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 3:10 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) I'm not denying the Bayne thing because obviously chimpanzees could do a better job than the current regime in the scoring tower, but if it were as blatant as CJS is making it seem, I'm pretty sure ESPN would have at least acknowledged it. We rag on them a lot as a network, but one thing they are usually good at is updating the free pass situation and wave around stuff and that type of thing, so I think they would have at least noticed it. But like I said, I don't deny that Nascar screwed up. It's extremely possible. 73. Anonymous posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:13 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Couldn't Bayne have just gotten his lap back because of his fresh tires? Or did the caution come out too soon for that? I only ask because I didn't catch the race. 74. Anonymous posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:16 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @65 I'm guessing Ron Fellows 75. Anonymous posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:06 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) #4 crew chief--Ricky Viers #87 crew chief--Randy MacDonald 76. Nascar Lead Lap Points posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:10 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) 10,500 Race on Racing Reference 77. RaceFanX posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:21 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsor: #5 Kevin Harvick- Tide / Kroger / Tim Plogger I think I fell asleep shortly after Harvick passed Scott for the lead the first time...Doesn't look like I missed much competition up front afterward BUT it's nice to see Kevin win in the colorful "Tide Ride." I miss having Tide in NASCAR on a more widespread basis. Harvick's car had a special decal on the quarterpanel for this race in memory of former Kroger Director of Merchandising for the South Region Tim Plogger who passed away on March 25. Plogger was a major NASCAR fan and helped get Kroger involved with the sport including helping to arrange Harvick's Kroger and Tide sponsorships (Richmond and Martinsville where the sponsorship were raced were Plogger's home tracks). Harvick said during the rain delay before the start that having Plogger's name on the car for this race gave his team an extra incentive to win. 78. Cornys posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:44 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) How old were Harvick's tires and how new were Bayne's? He could have passed the leader, but since we weren't there in person we will likely never know. The teams would not let something like this fly. I assure this to you. There's likely more to it than what was shown on TV. 79. DH101 posted: 04.26.2014 - 11:06 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) 87 Owner- Johnny Davis .... Joe isn't fielding a nationwide program at the moment or he would be in the car 80. DB1995 posted: 04.26.2014 - 11:36 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) This can almost make you wonder how often a driver gets his/her lap back for no reason. 81. numbah10hatah posted: 04.26.2014 - 11:43 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jimmy Weller's last place finish in this race ends an 11-race streak by TriStar Motorsports drivers finishing last. TriStar finished last in all 7 races this year before this race. The last race that TriStar did not finish last in was at Dover in September, when Danny Efland's #50 Defiant Whiskey Chevy finished last. 82. numbah10hatah posted: 04.26.2014 - 12:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Give a call to Landon Cassill! 13th! And JJ Yeley in the #28 gets ANOTHER Top 20 after he finished 18th! In the 5 races he's driven for JGL Racing (3 in the #93, 2 in the #28), he hasn't finished worse than 21st! His average finish in Nationwide this year is 17.6! 83. Nascar Lead Lap Points posted: 04.26.2014 - 12:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsor Updated 55 had Genmak Geneva Liberty Steel/Genmak Steel on the hood 84. cjs3872 posted: 04.26.2014 - 12:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Guys, on that whole pit sequence, Bayne stopped just two or three laps after Harvick did, so there was no advantage there. In fact, Harvick gained about two or three seconds on Bayne as a result, because he had not lapped Bayne prior to the pit stops, but did after the pit stops, and was about 2-3 seconds ahead of Bayne on the track, and with a better car. Bayne was able to unlap himself from the second place car because he did have much fresher tires than Brian Scott, who was second at the time, but wasn't anywhere near Harvick when the caution came out, and Harvick actually lapped another car, which made Bayne ineligible for the free pass, as that made him the second car off the lead lap. Not to mention the fact that he pitted with the leaders, which is an infraction of the rules and should have put him at the back of the field for the restart, but not only did they not line him up at the back of the field, but they lined him up with the leaders and on the same lap when everyone watching knew he was a lap down. And while it is true that had he race been scored properly at that time that Bayne would likely have gotten his lap back on the free pass on one of the two cautions that followed, the way the race played out as it did meant that Bayne was credited with one lap too many from about lap 153 to the finish, because he pitted with the leaders on the next caution, which would have made him ineligible for the free pass at that time, so had NASCAR scored the race correctly, the only time he could have used the free pass would have been when Smith and Sadler spun on that restart, because he did not pit under that caution, but he would never have gotten up to 11th place if he had been forced to start at the back, judging by how bad his car was, and he would probably have been lapped at the end, like four or five cars ended up being lapped at the finish. The scoring snafu that took place during the third caution was one that should never, ever happen today with the technology that is currently used by NASCAR, especially the transponders that each car is required to carry to prevent this exact situation from happening, yet it happened in this race. 85. Canadianfan posted: 04.26.2014 - 1:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hi Guys I am some what going back on what I said Bayne was flying and at lap 138 the last time we see him he is in front of the 2 and there are no cars between him and the 5 they even zoom in on the 5 which is less than half a straightaway ahead of the 6 and in front of the 5 is the 43. I think the 43 slowed up the 5 just enough that the 6 used it as a pick on got past on was on the tail end of the lead lap not one lap down and don't forget the 6 had the best tires at that point and flew past 2 like he was on 7 cylinders. That is why Bayne was shown catching up to the field before pit stops no controversy here Bayne had plenty of time to pass the 5 and was not far back. The only problem is the last time they show the ticker before they went to commercial they stopped at the 31 which was 15th if they kept going we would have seen the 6 as the last car on the lead lap. 86. cjs3872 posted: 04.26.2014 - 2:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Canadianfan, the reason he blew by Brian Scott so easily was because Scott was on much older tires, but at that time, he was at least 2 seconds behind Harvick, possibly closer to 3, and there simply wasn't enough time between then and when the caution flew for him to catch Harvick, even if he had a better car, which he didn't, because he would have to have gained more than a quarter of a second per lap at that point, and Bayne's tires were only about three laps fresher than Harvick's, since they were on the same pit sequence, so there was no tire advantage between the 5 and 6 cars either way. Again, he would likely have gotten his lap back on one of the two subsequent caution periods, so he may have finished around 14th or 15th had NASCAR gotten the scoring correct, which was likely why that caution was extended, but I doubt he would have gotten back to 11th, where he was credited with finishing in this race. 87. Anonymous posted: 04.26.2014 - 2:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It's ridiculous that some guys on a website watching the race on TV think they know better than NASCAR timing and scoring, not to mention the scorers who are actually watching the cars every lap. 88. Rexrobe posted: 04.26.2014 - 2:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I didn't see this race myself, but if that scoring situation happened as it's being said, other teams would have lodged an appeal of the result based on principle. I don't always trust NASCAR not to make a mistake, but I do trust the teams to advocate for themselves. 89. Zackary Shawn posted: 04.26.2014 - 4:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) cjs, you are literally (and I mean that in it's literal sense) the only person who seems to think this great scoring snafu actually happened even though you said it was "obvious to everyone watching". If it was so obvious how come you are quite possibly the only person on God's green Earth who thinks it happened? Doesn't that tell you that maybe you're mistaken? 90. cjs3872 posted: 04.26.2014 - 4:34 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) The only other thing I can think of regarding that whole situation last night is that Kevin Harvick might have backed out of it quite a bit during that portion of the race. Remember that he had the dominant car and those closest to him after that round of pit stops were that close because of when they pitted, but he also had about a 5 or 6 second lead over anyone else on the same pit strategy as he was on, which amounted to a lead of more than a quarter of a lap. With that in mind, Harvick might have decided to take it easy for a while and protect his lead over the cars on the same pit sequencing as him, knowing that he would easily pull away from those closest to him, regardless of the pace he ran. And if that is true, then it would understand why Trevor Bayne might have been able to catch Harvick from such a long distance behind in such a short period of time (more than 2 seconds in just 10-12 laps), since he was also essentially on he same pit strategy as Harvick was on. Bayne wasn't speeding up as much as it was Harvick slowing down to save his tires, possibly as much as 3-4 tenths a lap, in the event the rest of the race went green. Harvick being real conservative on his tires with such a big lead over those on the same pit and tire strategy as he was on is the only way this makes any sense without NASCAR making a serious scoring error. 91. Dave #38 Fan-Go Gilliland! posted: 04.26.2014 - 5:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "87 Owner- Johnny Davis .... Joe isn't fielding a nationwide program at the moment or he would be in the car" During his interview after his crash, he said "I want to thank Joe Nemechek for the chance to get in the car this week". 92. We need more Onion posted: 04.26.2014 - 6:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "During his interview after his crash, he said "I want to thank Joe Nemechek for the chance to get in the car this week". " I want to thank Johnny Davis and Joe Nemecheck for the chance to get in the car this week. Is the actual quote. TBH, JD Motorsports is really surprising me in a good way with their performances this year. Their cars are more-or-less competitive and Cassill is really fast. Nice step forward for a hard-working independent team. 93. NazRacePhan posted: 04.28.2014 - 9:01 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) 8 different pole sitters in 8 races 94. Daniel posted: 04.28.2014 - 5:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 42 entered at Talladega: -Kasey Kahne in the #5 -Blake Koch in the #10 -Darrell Wallace Jr. in the #20 -Robert Richardson Jr. in the #23 -John Wes Townley in the #25 -David Starr in the #44 -Sam Hornish Jr. in the #54 -Jamie Dick in the #55 -Chad Boat in the #84 -Bobby Gerhart in the #85 -Joe Nemechek in the #87 -Jeff Green in the #91 -David Ragan in the #98 -#13, #33, #86 not entered 95. Rusty posted: 04.28.2014 - 5:52 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Kasey Kahne, Kyle Larson and David Ragan are the only Cup drivers entered at Talladega. #sweet 96. c2 posted: 04.29.2014 - 2:43 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I still think the JR motorsports duo will be the two contenders for the championship, as they've shown to be so far. Though Chase has the wins, Regan hasnt finished out of the top ten yet, and consistency can win if Chase has a bad race or two. We will see. 97. numbah10hatah posted: 04.29.2014 - 6:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #31 sponsor: SEM Products 98. racefangurl posted: 05.01.2014 - 11:17 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Cjs says maybe Harvick slowed and Bayne caught him that way. We never be sure unless NASCAR or some race team tells us and that depends on how much we can trust the source. As a T-Bayne fan, I hope Harvick got conservative and slowed so Bayne caught him. I don't wanna see him or his team penalized in way that'd knock him from the top-5 in Nationwide points. He's only 4 points behind 4th place Ty Dillon and within a race of Chase Elliot, the points leader. 99. Rich posted: 04.13.2021 - 7:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Allen Bestwick along with Andy Petree and Rusty Wallace were the commentators. Dr. Jerry Punch along with Dave Burns and Jamie Little were the pit road reporters. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Post a comment:* Your comment may not appear immediately - all comments must be approved by the moderator. Name: Comment: