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  1.   Nascar Lead Lap Points posted:
  09.05.2014 - 5:10 pm
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Withdrew
86 Cody Ware Racetrac Convenience Stores Rick Ware Chevrolet
Crew Chief George Church


  2.   riven3d posted:
  09.05.2014 - 5:12 pm
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waiting for the cry babies on here to start..

so lets get on their nerves congrats to Kyle Busch for another pole
position that you deserved and here is to hoping you dominate this race
just so they can cry more about how you shouldnt be in the race...

blah blah blah, i go again if it was Dale Jr. they wouldnt be saying a
thing


  3.   numbah10hatah posted:
  09.05.2014 - 5:12 pm
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In using fastest 40: #17 Tanner Berryhill and #70 Derrike Cope
Out using fastest 40: #52 Joey Gase and #87 Josh Reaume


  4.   ii posted:
  09.05.2014 - 5:18 pm
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Strong qualifying effort for Dakota Armstrong. Best start since his pole
at Daytona.

He should be doing better given he's in RPM equipment, but who knows? I
think he could sneak in a top 5 by the end of the year.


  5.   Anonymous posted:
  09.05.2014 - 5:24 pm
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berryhill misses the field by 0.016. instead of getting a guy who would
race the full distance, we have one more s&p


  6.   Sarf52 posted:
  09.05.2014 - 5:31 pm
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It angers me that John Jackson and Matt Frahm, who are gonna park after
20 laps, get to make the race. Berryhill and Cope both ALWAYS run the
distance, if either retires early it's because their equipment actually
broke.


  7.   Sarf52 posted:
  09.05.2014 - 5:32 pm
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Also Josh Reaume is not a very good driver I'm unsure how he's sticking
around the NNS garage. I know he always runs crap equipment but he
really gets NOTHING out of it.


  8.   Watto posted:
  09.05.2014 - 5:58 pm
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"blah blah blah, i go again if it was Dale Jr. they wouldnt be saying a
thing"

translation: "Here is a straw man argument that is 100% impossible to
prove, but I like to pretend that I'm a logical person who's right,
despite my arguments being one of the most obvious logical fallacies
there is."


  9.   Hinch27 posted:
  09.05.2014 - 5:59 pm
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^Do you see why I banned this piece of work from my fantasy leagues?


  10.   Hinch27 posted:
  09.05.2014 - 6:09 pm
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"i go again if it was Dale Jr. they wouldnt be saying a thing "

And this is where the strawman argument Watto mentioned comes in...
except for some who don't mind Kyle Larson, we pretty much agree that NO
Cup driver belongs in the NNS races.


  11.   Schroeder51 posted:
  09.05.2014 - 6:12 pm
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"so lets get on their nerves congrats to Kyle Busch for another pole
position that you deserved and here is to hoping you dominate this race
just so they can cry more about how you shouldnt be in the race...

blah blah blah, i go again if it was Dale Jr. they wouldnt be saying a
thing"

If Junior were running 85% of the Nationwide schedule, I would
absolutely have a problem with that as well. It doesn't matter who the
driver is; in my mind, nobody SHOULD be running that much of the
Nationwide schedule.

Sure, maybe some people wouldn't have a problem if it were Junior
dominating the Nationwide Series instead of Kyle Busch, but to say that
NOBODY would have a problem in that scenario (and to basically call all
of us who dislike seeing Kyle/Brad/Joey dominate this series hypocrites)
is asinine.


  12.   23andJoe posted:
  09.05.2014 - 6:20 pm
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Cody Ware was not in the #86 - that was an error. The #86 was TBA before
being scratched from the entry list.

(Of course, my opinion on cars that were scratched being listed is well
known...)


  13.   Nascar Lead Lap Points posted:
  09.05.2014 - 6:28 pm
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Not be rude 23andJoe. I don't know your opinion and would like to know.

I think added withdrew's are important to add. for the history and know
who was planning to run but something happen.


  14.   MAR posted:
  09.05.2014 - 6:30 pm
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Ima Kyle Busch fan a big one but it gets on my nerves to see him still
stealing poles and wins in the nationwide series.


  15.   Kirk posted:
  09.05.2014 - 6:36 pm
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Morgan Shepherd's first top 30 qualifying run since May 2012 (Iowa). Go
get 'em, Morgan!


  16.   Sky Warrior posted:
  09.05.2014 - 6:47 pm
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Woooo Morgan! Still can get it done with so little. All those companies
that boast about how long lasting their products are are missing out on
a good marketing opportunity


  17.   23andJoe posted:
  09.05.2014 - 6:53 pm
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>I think added withdrew's are important to add. for the history and know
who was planning to run but something happen.

IMHO only those cars that actually showed up at the track should be
listed. In many cases they weren't planning to run, but simply had an
entry blank filed as a matter of routine before scratching. And the way
the site is coded it shows up on the drivers' pages as a DNQ.


  18.   We need more Onion posted:
  09.05.2014 - 7:04 pm
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Richmond is probably Morgan's best track, so it's not that surprising to
see him this comfortably in.


  19.   murb posted:
  09.05.2014 - 7:14 pm
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Hopefully Ryan completely outclasses Kyle again.


  20.   joey2448 posted:
  09.05.2014 - 7:41 pm
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I was just looking at some stats in 2014, and was impressed that Chase
Elliott has finished on the lead lap in every race except for Charlotte
in May! As a rookie, that's pretty good finishing.

Also, Regan Smith has led 110 laps this season, but only eight have been
at tracks other than Daytona and Talladega...I like Regan, and he's
consistent, but that may not win him a championship.


  21.   numbah10hatah posted:
  09.05.2014 - 7:47 pm
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Jamie Dick spins and Kevin Lepage is collected. Caution.


  22.   Schroeder51 posted:
  09.05.2014 - 7:47 pm
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Jamie Dick spins in turn 1 and collects Kevin Lepage and a few other cars.


  23.   numbah10hatah posted:
  09.05.2014 - 7:48 pm
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Does Harmon even have a backup car??


  24.   Matt L posted:
  09.05.2014 - 7:59 pm
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Looks like Morgan parked it.


  25.   joey2448 posted:
  09.05.2014 - 8:15 pm
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Well, this is fun. *sarcasm*

Top 14 on lead lap, Kyle Busch leads lap 68, although he nearly lost it
in turn 2...


  26.   numbah10hatah posted:
  09.05.2014 - 8:15 pm
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Kyle Busch has led all 68 laps and has lapped up to 15th place Dylan
Kwasniewski and has a 2.5 second lead over Ryan Blaney....YAWN.


  27.   Schroeder51 posted:
  09.05.2014 - 8:17 pm
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Chad Bloat blows a tire and smacks the wall.


  28.   numbah10hatah posted:
  09.05.2014 - 8:17 pm
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Caution out...Chad Boat just PANCAKED the wall and has MAJOR sparks
flying...


  29.   numbah10hatah posted:
  09.05.2014 - 8:26 pm
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Josh Reaume don' blow his motor! Caution.


  30.   Schroeder51 posted:
  09.05.2014 - 8:26 pm
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Josh Reaume goes up in smoke and the caution comes out again.


  31.   RaceFanX posted:
  09.05.2014 - 8:26 pm
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The #87 Fight Ebola Ford Mustang?!


  32.   Jarrett88fan posted:
  09.05.2014 - 8:30 pm
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The race is over as soon as Harvick takes the lead from Busch.
If the last few weeks are any indication, the next two or three will be
entertaining as the wambulance will be out in full force from Busch.


  33.   Schroeder51 posted:
  09.05.2014 - 8:32 pm
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Crash on the backstretch as Jeff Green and Jeffrey Earnhardt tangle.


  34.   numbah10hatah posted:
  09.05.2014 - 8:32 pm
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Jeffrey Earnhardt and Jeff Green crash on the backstretch. Caution.

Man, this race is cursing the small teams.


  35.   RaceFanX posted:
  09.05.2014 - 8:33 pm
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Joey Gase gets into Jeff Green and causes a two-car wreck collecting
Jeffrey Earnhardt. Cautions are really breeding cautions tonight after
that long green flag run at the start.

Why is Jeff Green in the #14 instead of Jeff McClure tonight?


  36.   Sky Warrior posted:
  09.05.2014 - 8:37 pm
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McClure was sitting out a few races this year and I think is retiring
due to his undisclosed illness after the season. Green was scheduled as
a fill in for like 5 starts this year


  37.   numbah10hatah posted:
  09.05.2014 - 8:41 pm
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RaceFanX: Don't you mean Eric McClure? XD


  38.   epzik8 posted:
  09.05.2014 - 8:57 pm
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The 54 and 22 are in first and second. Imagine that. But there isn't a
Cup driver in the #22 tonight.


  39.   RaceFanX posted:
  09.05.2014 - 8:58 pm
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Yeah, I do.

I wonder if Eric McClure's issues are related to that wicked hit he had
at Talladega back in 2012. He hasn't run a full season since that wreck.


  40.   Jarrett88fan posted:
  09.05.2014 - 9:00 pm
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There will be one Cup driver in the #54 with the exception of
Kentucky...and some wonder why Busch hasn't won a Cup championship.


  41.   Hinch27 posted:
  09.05.2014 - 9:01 pm
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For those wondering, McClure had an almost fatal battle with kidney
disease last year and has not been the same since.


  42.   Schroeder51 posted:
  09.05.2014 - 9:09 pm
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Jacques is here.


  43.   Jacques posted:
  09.05.2014 - 9:09 pm
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Hello everybody!!


  44.   The Crimson King posted:
  09.05.2014 - 9:14 pm
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I seriously hope Kyle doesn't lead every lap in this.

I mean ffs, have a round of green flag stops just so someone stays out a
couple of laps, anything.


  45.   Schroeder51 posted:
  09.05.2014 - 9:17 pm
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riven3d has got to be absolutely loving this race right now.


  46.   Jarrett88fan posted:
  09.05.2014 - 9:21 pm
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Harvick will rim ride around the #54 under green of after another
Jacques appearance.


  47.   Dylan posted:
  09.05.2014 - 9:25 pm
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I seriously hope Kevin Harvick catches up to Kyle Busch and turns him
into the wall.


  48.   Jarrett88fan posted:
  09.05.2014 - 9:29 pm
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No trophies for second?
That is why Six-time rarely runs a Nationwide race, it is better to save
that for the professional 80-85%ers.


  49.   numbah10hatah posted:
  09.05.2014 - 9:35 pm
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Caution...and they have no idea why.

*facepalm*


  50.   Schroeder51 posted:
  09.05.2014 - 9:35 pm
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A Jacques caution with just a little over 20 laps to go, which all but
assures a Kyle Busch victory.


  51.   Jacques posted:
  09.05.2014 - 9:36 pm
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Hello again!!


  52.   The Crimson King posted:
  09.05.2014 - 9:37 pm
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One last caution...

Come on Kevin! You can do it!

And by "it" I mean intentionally bash Kyle's car into the wall.


  53.   epzik8 posted:
  09.05.2014 - 9:40 pm
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Harvick is now the leader.


  54.   epzik8 posted:
  09.05.2014 - 9:41 pm
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Never mind, I guess Busch never lost the lead to Harvick.


  55.   RaceFanX posted:
  09.05.2014 - 9:45 pm
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I love Chris Buscher's bright blue 50th Anniversary of the Ford Mustang
#60 he's got tonight. That's a sharp paint job.


  56.   numbah10hatah posted:
  09.05.2014 - 9:47 pm
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I have a couple of fingers I would LOVE to show Kyle Busch right now....


  57.   murb posted:
  09.05.2014 - 9:47 pm
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Kyle "If I Had Never Taken Four Tires On The Last Pit Stop At Fontana,
I'd Be Missing My 3rd Chase In 6 Seasons" Busch dominates and wins
another lower series race.


  58.   riven3d posted:
  09.05.2014 - 9:47 pm
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Hinch27 its more like you were threatened you would get beat what a
chicken..

and just for the cry babies like yourself. I WAS RIGHT!!!! now live with it

DOMINATION at its finest


  59.   numbah10hatah posted:
  09.05.2014 - 9:48 pm
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Congrats to Chase Elliott on winning the NATIONWIDE race!!!!


  60.   RaceFanX posted:
  09.05.2014 - 9:48 pm
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Kyle Busch leads flag to flag on the way to victory.


  61.   numbah10hatah posted:
  09.05.2014 - 9:49 pm
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riven3d....just STFU.


  62.   Schroeder51 posted:
  09.05.2014 - 9:49 pm
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The single most "epic" Kyle Busch victory ever, second only to his
"epic" win at Phoenix a few years ago where he also led every lap!

Hope Kyle enjoys his amazing victory tonight before he inevitably finds
trouble tomorrow in the Cup race and finishes outside the top 10 once
again.


  63.   Dylan posted:
  09.05.2014 - 9:50 pm
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The only way the series will get better is if the nationwide series
drivers win and Kyle Busch loses.


  64.   epzik8 posted:
  09.05.2014 - 9:50 pm
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Kyle Busch has done what Brian Scott almost did last year before Brad
Keselowski passed him on a late restart. There has been one lead change
in the last two Nationwide races combined.


  65.   The Long Shot posted:
  09.05.2014 - 9:54 pm
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"Hinch27 its more like you were threatened you would get beat what a
chicken..

and just for the cry babies like yourself. I WAS RIGHT!!!! now live with it

DOMINATION at its finest"

Act like a self-righteous asshole again and you can kiss your spot in
the fantasy leagues goodbye.


  66.   riven3d posted:
  09.05.2014 - 9:54 pm
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hey numbah i dont think you have much room to talk

you picked Kyle to win.. now talk about a dork you are

you cant have it both ways boy, either you wanted him to win or you
didnt fact is you picked him to win and now your complaining...


  67.   riven3d posted:
  09.05.2014 - 9:55 pm
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TLS. for a game once again that isnt yours. which this has nothing to do
with the fantasy league dont threaten me. hinch started it so take your
threat to him also
or shut up


  68.   epzik8 posted:
  09.05.2014 - 9:55 pm
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Oh, and even though a lot of people don't like seeing Kyle winning a lot
in lower series, he hasn't won as many Nationwide races as last year, so
I don't care about him winning tonight as much. He did win all of those
truck races earlier this year though.


  69.   DB1995 posted:
  09.05.2014 - 10:00 pm
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Glad i went to the Football game tonight, we lost 42-0 (hell they
recruit people from Knoxville), this seemd like it was the most boring
race of the year. Im very confident in Trevor Baynes abilities, but man
they are just sucking right now.


  70.   The Long Shot posted:
  09.05.2014 - 10:03 pm
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"TLS. for a game once again that isnt yours. which this has nothing to
do with the fantasy league dont threaten me. hinch started it so take
your threat to him also
or shut up"

1. Game that isn't mine? 24over48 may have been the head at the start of
the year, but he's been gone for months, and at least this time I was
actually in a position of power before I took over.

2. You were insulting people. That's a punishable offense regardless of
whether it took place in the fantasy leagues or not.

3. I may discipline him; that remains to be seen.

4. Lol, you're not in a position to be giving ultimatums here, buddy.


  71.   Mamorese posted:
  09.05.2014 - 10:23 pm
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So NASCAR fixed another race with artificial cautions? Why can't NASCAR
finally die off already, at least the stock car racing landscape would
be shaken up and maybe something decent would emerge.


  72.   Anthony posted:
  09.05.2014 - 10:25 pm
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what an insult to racing this "race" was


  73.   23andJoe posted:
  09.05.2014 - 10:38 pm
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#71: The race was bad enough as it was. It doesn't need conspiracy
garbage to make it look bad.


  74.   Jarrett88fan posted:
  09.05.2014 - 10:40 pm
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Awesome point murb, if NASCAR threw the caution one lap later at
Fontana, Gordon would have won and Busch would be needing to win
Richmond to make the Chase.


  75.   Nascar Lead Lap Points posted:
  09.05.2014 - 10:46 pm
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  76.   ii posted:
  09.05.2014 - 10:53 pm
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YAWNNNNNNNNNNNNN. For once I'm glad I decided to write my lab report
over watching the race.

And Dakota Armstrong follows up a good qualifying effort with an even
better finish. Kudos to that team.

I have to say though, Kyle didn't seem very excited in Victory Lane, I
mean put freaking Ryan Reed in there for all I care, at least show some
enthusiasm!

As much as it seems the opposite, I really don't mind Kyle going back
and screwing around in Trucks and Nationwide, because he still doesn't
have that Cup title and I won't appreciate anything he does until he
gets one. And it doesn't look like that will happen this year.


  77.   DB1995 posted:
  09.05.2014 - 10:54 pm
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For anyone who cares: do you think its fair to make a school with 450
people (all from nearby) to have to play a school with 900 people, most
of Football team from an hour or more from their school in a football
game?, the TSSAA put us both in the same conference even were 2Aand they
are 4A. They beat us every year and all it does is get our team down and
we lose all of our momentum.we get from beating NG.


  78.   Nascar Lead Lap Points posted:
  09.05.2014 - 11:05 pm
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Typo of the #87
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  79.   David posted:
  09.05.2014 - 11:20 pm
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It seems that people might take their fantasy leagues too seriously
around here.

I'm really starting to be glad that I'm done running the TUSCC league
after two more races.

In unrelated news, Kyle Busch wins again. Maybe we just need to wait
until he hits his goal of 200 race wins across all three series; then he
might leave the lower-tier series for good (assuming that JGR's sponsors
will let him).


  80.   cjs3872 posted:
  09.05.2014 - 11:44 pm
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Yes, the last two races in the NNS haven't seen very much competitive
racing up front. However, I must congratulate Kyle Busch on a rarity
(although it isn't the first time he's done it in the NNS), and that is
the fact that he threw what is the racing equivalent of a perfect game,
leading every lap. For that to happen, everything, including the timing
of caution flags, has to go exactly right, and someone at the back end
of the lead lap can't stay out one extra caution lap to lead, so leading
every lap, NASCAR's version of a perfect game, is an incredible
accomplishment, and now he has last two perfect games (or races)
completed in the NNS. I railed on him after his run-in with Martin
Truex, Jr. last week, for which he might have had an ulterior motive
(keeping Kasey Kahne from winning the race, and thus keeping him out of
the Chase, because he figures to be a much bigger factor than any of
those battling for the last spots in the Chase, and causing that caution
was the only way Kahne was not going to win, something that ultimately
failed). But putting together a perfect race is an accomplishment, much
less having the last two in the NNS.

Another thing the last two races have done is sealed the fact that a JR
Motorsports driver is going to win the championship this year, and more
and more, that driver is starting to look like Chase Elliott, as only
Regan Smith is within a full race worth of points, and even he's losing
ground, albeit at a much slower pace. With a 19-point lead (nearly half
a race), and with very little chance of Smith winning again, except for
Kentucky, Elliott could probably even afford one clinker and still win
the championship, even if Smith has a trouble-free run through the
season, simply because Elliott could make up the ground he'd lose with a
bad race because of the speed advantage he has on the other contenders.
After all, he wouldn't fall far behind Smith with one bad race, if he
fell behind at all. With Trevor Bayne appearing to be locked in sixth
place (ironically, about where I thought he'd finish before the season
started, and matching the number of his car), and with Elliott seemingly
having a handle on Smith, the only guy he really needs to worry about
right now, the battle figures to be for third place in points, and it
figures to be a pretty good one between Elliott Sadler and the two RCR
drivers, Ty Dillon and Brian Scott.


  81.   Mannoroth posted:
  09.06.2014 - 12:04 am
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Hey, haters. Do you know, that Richard Petty, David Pearson, Cale
Yarborough and Bobby Allison did the same as Kyle is doing right now?
They had it even easier, because races were shorter, not many drivers
were in the field and they had the best equipment. I know it was all
part of the Sprint Cup Series (Grand National back then), but many
legend's wins should be not counted or counted separately.

This is the truth:
Richard Petty - 107 wins
David Pearson - 64 wins
Bobby Allison - 72 wins
Cale Yarborough - 81 wins

You're complaining all the time about the Bushwhackers, but it's all
NASCAR's fault. When Nationwide Series and Camping World Truck Series
started, they should say: "None of the Sprint Cup Series drivers is
allowed to compete in the lower series." However, NASCAR didn't do it
and all what regular visitor has to read in comments section is your
bullsh*ts...


  82.   Dawson posted:
  09.06.2014 - 12:08 am
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Anyway a great run for Dakota Armstrong has ran we'll in last few races!


  83.   NadeauFan91 posted:
  09.06.2014 - 1:00 am
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#History #ESPN'sFapping


  84.   David posted:
  09.06.2014 - 1:07 am
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"You're complaining all the time about the Bushwhackers, but it's all
NASCAR's fault. When Nationwide Series and Camping World Truck Series
started, they should say: "None of the Sprint Cup Series drivers is
allowed to compete in the lower series." However, NASCAR didn't do it
and all what regular visitor has to read in comments section is your
bullsh*ts..."

So, what is your point? Are you blaming us or NASCAR?


  85.   Mannoroth posted:
  09.06.2014 - 1:38 am
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84. You. NASCAR made a mistake as well, but nowadays it's normal part of
NASCAR racing, everyone is used to it and I have nothing against it. And
all you do is just complaining, crying, trolling, etc. etc.


  86.   Hinch27 posted:
  09.06.2014 - 4:43 am
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"Hinch27 its more like you were threatened you would get beat what a
chicken..

and just for the cry babies like yourself. I WAS RIGHT!!!! now live with it

DOMINATION at its finest "

I will just state (so as to not anger TLS) that the reason you got
banned was because you repeatedly told ME how to run MY game. FTW, I
continuously play in my own games, although I don't always pick, because
I am there for fun, not to win. You, on the other, hand, were always
deriding me and other players. QED.


  87.   Hinch27 posted:
  09.06.2014 - 4:51 am
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"Hey, haters. Do you know, that Richard Petty, David Pearson, Cale
Yarborough and Bobby Allison did the same as Kyle is doing right now?
They had it even easier, because races were shorter, not many drivers
were in the field and they had the best equipment. I know it was all
part of the Sprint Cup Series (Grand National back then), but many
legend's wins should be not counted or counted separately.

This is the truth:
Richard Petty - 107 wins
David Pearson - 64 wins
Bobby Allison - 72 wins
Cale Yarborough - 81 wins

You're complaining all the time about the Bushwhackers, but it's all
NASCAR's fault. When Nationwide Series and Camping World Truck Series
started, they should say: "None of the Sprint Cup Series drivers is
allowed to compete in the lower series." However, NASCAR didn't do it
and all what regular visitor has to read in comments section is your
bullsh*ts... "

"84. You. NASCAR made a mistake as well, but nowadays it's normal part
of NASCAR racing, everyone is used to it and I have nothing against it.
And all you do is just complaining, crying, trolling, etc. etc. "

Really? You apparently don't realize just how deep the talent was in
those fields. Ask any driver from then and they will tell you that they
feared having to pass John Sears as much as having to pass Richard
Petty. The fact that you go through this much time to compile
non-statistics is really stating how much of an agenda you have to push
here.


  88.   Hinch27 posted:
  09.06.2014 - 6:45 am
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"You're complaining all the time about the Bushwhackers, but it's all
NASCAR's fault. When Nationwide Series and Camping World Truck Series
started, they should say: "None of the Sprint Cup Series drivers is
allowed to compete in the lower series." However, NASCAR didn't do it
and all what regular visitor has to read in comments section is your
bullsh*ts... "

If you knew diddlysquat about NASCAR history you would know that the NNS
(way back in 1953) and CWTS (in 1995) were both conceived as
professional disciplines separate from the Cup.


  89.   Mannoroth posted:
  09.06.2014 - 7:11 am
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87. Do I understand right? They feared having to pass the better drivers
with the best equipment? Why? Well, that's something...
So nowadays drivers like Kevin Lepage or Jeff Green are afraid to pass
Kyle Busch or Brad Keselowski just because they are way better than them?

88. Yes, I know that they were and are separated. And what? NASCAR
surely had some rules back then, so they could introduce that rule.


  90.   ii posted:
  09.06.2014 - 7:16 am
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Kyle still has no business going into the NNS or Truck races and
shitting on everyone, especially if he doesn't show any class when he
wins or loses. It's almost as if he takes the series' seriously, and I
don't think Harvick or Keselowski or anyone else does, they're out there
to have fun and maybe teach the young guns some tricks.

But Kyle's out there purely to make a fool out of everyone, hopefully
people start to realize how much of a bust he's being in Cup (2008 was
really his only "great" year, and he slumped in the Chase), because he
doesn't even have 30 wins in Cup out of 100-something in all the top 3
series'.

He's basically being a 7-year-old kid teasing the other guys,
"Ha-ha-haha-ha, I have better cars than you, I'm a better dri-ver" and
when he wins he tries to show class but it doesn't work (SERIOUSLY, AT
LEAST LOOK HAPPY WHEN YOU LEAD THE ENTIRE RACE), and when he loses he
cries because it doesn't go his way.

I thought he was becoming more "mature" a few years ago, at least that's
what everyone said was happening. He probably still has the maturity of
a 12-year-old basement dweller.

I wouldn't be so disappointed about this if it was Kahne dominating, or
Harvick, or even Jimmie Johnson, because they're at least happy when
they win no matter what series. And if it were Kahne or Johnson they
wouldn't try to win every single race in the NNS.


  91.   Hinch27 posted:
  09.06.2014 - 7:30 am
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"87. Do I understand right? They feared having to pass the better
drivers with the best equipment? Why? Well, that's something...
So nowadays drivers like Kevin Lepage or Jeff Green are afraid to pass
Kyle Busch or Brad Keselowski just because they are way better than them?"

Listen, asshole. I just said that drivers back then feared passing John
Sears JUST AS MUCH as passing Bobby Allison. To put it in terms a person
on your lower echelon can understand: it would be like drivers nowadays
saying Jeff Green is just as hard to pass as Kyle Busch, but they DON'T.
In other words, in the 1960s, the slower cars with the worse equipment
were just as feared as the faster cars with the better equipment. Now go
take your revisionist history, your insults, and your lies and go join
ESPN in doing things that should only be done in the privacy of your own
bathrooms.


  92.   Hinch27 posted:
  09.06.2014 - 7:31 am
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"I wouldn't be so disappointed about this if it was Kahne dominating, or
Harvick, or even Jimmie Johnson, because they're at least happy when
they win no matter what series. And if it were Kahne or Johnson they
wouldn't try to win every single race in the NNS. "

Funny because I read an article that said that Kahne is such a robot he
didn't even seem happy to win Atlanta.


  93.   dennyfan11 posted:
  09.06.2014 - 8:49 am
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What a terrible race!


  94.   Anonymous posted:
  09.06.2014 - 9:30 am
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guys, look up BTCC. that's british touring car championship. thank me later


  95.   racefangurl posted:
  09.06.2014 - 9:31 am
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The names in the top-6 won't change as long as they all start all the
races ahead. If Dylan Kwasniewski or someone wrecked Chase Elliott out
of the race at, say Kentucky and Regan Smith won, then it's probably
Smith's redemption (he choked away a big points lead last year), with
Chase Elliott second and Rookie of the Year. Anything better than Rookie
of the Year and second in points to Smith or whoever's champ's
pie-in-the-sky. Dylan's what I call a wreckin' rookie. He's wrecked
other drivers, so why couldn't he wreck Chase. As a rookie, Chase could
be like Smith last year (except Smith wasn't a rookie, but a Cup reject
back in the Nationwide), in that he chokes away his points lead. He's a
rookie, he's 18, so I still think he'll choke in fall. I don't believe
in rookies at all. The championship standings may look a bit like this,
Regan Smith, Chase Elliott (ROTY)-2 and 3-6 will be some order of
Elliott Sadler, Ty Dillon, Brian Scott and Trevor Bayne. The points
battle for third mentioned makes it harder to call how 3-6 will look.
Chase has been -2 to his teammate before. I remember when Smith had the
points lead earlier and Elliott was a close second. If Chase wins the
championship, I'll never watch Nationwide when it becomes Xfinity, since
my Nationwide driver moves up to the Cup. Any series that has a rookie
champ's just dumbed down racing and not worth watching to me. If Regan
Smith or someone's champ, I'll watch when it's of FOX next year. Don't
have cable TV at home.


  96.   racefangurl posted:
  09.06.2014 - 9:33 am
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I don't hate Chase, I just hate what I view as pie-in-the-sky stuff
happening.


  97.   racefangurl posted:
  09.06.2014 - 11:59 am
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of=on in 95. I need to proofread better.


  98.   David posted:
  09.06.2014 - 11:59 am
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"84. You. NASCAR made a mistake as well, but nowadays it's normal part
of NASCAR racing, everyone is used to it and I have nothing against it.
And all you do is just complaining, crying, trolling, etc. etc."

That's odd, because I can't recall the last time I personally complained
about Cup drivers winning in NNS.

"As a rookie, Chase could be like Smith last year (except Smith wasn't a
rookie, but a Cup reject back in the Nationwide), in that he chokes away
his points lead. He's a rookie, he's 18, so I still think he'll choke in
fall. I don't believe in rookies at all. The championship standings may
look a bit like this, Regan Smith, Chase Elliott (ROTY)-2 and 3-6 will
be some order of Elliott Sadler, Ty Dillon, Brian Scott and Trevor
Bayne. The points battle for third mentioned makes it harder to call how
3-6 will look. Chase has been -2 to his teammate before. I remember when
Smith had the points lead earlier and Elliott was a close second. If
Chase wins the championship, I'll never watch Nationwide when it becomes
Xfinity, since my Nationwide driver moves up to the Cup. Any series that
has a rookie champ's just dumbed down racing and not worth watching to me."

I have no idea why you're so opposed to a rookie winning the title. Has
it occurred to you that maybe Chase just has a really good team behind him?


  99.   racefangurl posted:
  09.06.2014 - 12:22 pm
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In 96, I say it seems like pie-in-the-sky stuff. What's wrong with
someone like Smith being champion? Clayton Caldwell on sportsmedia101
said "I do not believe in picking a rookie driver to win the
championship." Mark Eddinger, another sportsmedia101guy picked Smith. In
February, Mark's the editor of the site and Clayton, a writer there said
of Smith "he seems like a favorite", but was reluctant to pick him, due
to his team's expansion. That hasn't hurt him as he's led or been second
to his teammate, except when Sadler was ahead of them for a week. Smith
and his teammate were only a few points behind, though.


  100.   Watto posted:
  09.06.2014 - 1:45 pm
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"Funny because I read an article that said that Kahne is such a robot he
didn't even seem happy to win Atlanta."

Gotta love when people think that there's a right and wrong way to
appear happy, as if everyone in the world isn't wired in a way to
express emotion differently. It was clear how happy Kahne was and how
much he wanted it, but by being a low key guy, people never think about
his reactions logically. He's a fairly timid dude.


  101.   dennyfan11 posted:
  09.06.2014 - 2:08 pm
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2:00 weather update.
there was a cell of rain over the track. But it stopped raining after 35
minutes. The forecast calls for a 60% chance of rain. Chance doesn't
drop below 50% until 3am,and then hovers around 30-40% until 8 am.


  102.   Patrick posted:
  09.06.2014 - 2:31 pm
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the only other nationwide race I can think of where a driver led every
lap had to be 24 years ago when Chuck Bown dominated at Lainer, Georgia
during his championship season. congrats to Kyle on the performance. now
if he can try and do that in sprint cup on a regular basis where he
actually has yet to win a title in.


  103.   joey2448 posted:
  09.06.2014 - 4:43 pm
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Kyle Busch also led all 200 laps at the 2011 spring race at Phoenix.
Before that, Dale Earnhardt Jr. led all 100 laps at the July Daytona
race in 2003, Jeff Burton led all 147 laps at Darlington spring 2002,
and Chuck Bown led all 200 laps at Lanier in spring 1990, Tommy Houston
led all 150 at Martinsville fall 1986 and Dale Jarrett led all 150 at
Orange County a month earlier. It's happened even more times before
that, but I'm too lazy to list them all. I believe 17 times total in the
history of the Nationwide/Busch series.


  104.   Hinch27 posted:
  09.06.2014 - 4:49 pm
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Everyone seems to forget that Martin Truex won the NNS title in his
first full-time season.


  105.   David posted:
  09.06.2014 - 5:08 pm
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"Everyone seems to forget that Martin Truex won the NNS title in his
first full-time season."

Well, I didn't know that in the first place, but thanks for that bit of
information.


  106.   Watto posted:
  09.06.2014 - 5:42 pm
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"Everyone seems to forget that Martin Truex won the NNS title in his
first full-time season."

To the tune of 230 points over Kyle Busch driving for Hendrick in his
first full-time NNS season, as well.


  107.   23andJoe posted:
  09.06.2014 - 5:42 pm
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As I've said before, I don't think the solution is 'ban Cup drivers from
lower series', in toto.

The ideal solution, as I've mused, is to have a rule that says drivers
who are running for Cup points (or, if we get rid of the choose-a-series
rule, in the top 35 in Cup points) who are entered in a weekend's Cup
race may not enter any other National Touring Series (Nationwide/Xfinity
and Truck) events that are run at the same track on the same weekend. If
a driver in the lower series is injured after qualifying a Cup driver
may, with NASCAR's approval, be allowed to replace that driver for the
race, but any individual Cup driver may only do this once a season.

This would at a stroke eliminate the 'Buschwhacking' problem, while
allowing for Cup drivers to compete in non-companion events: the one
case where the 'fans come out to see the Name Drivers race!!' argument
actually has any weight.

Yes, the counterargument is 'But Sponsors', but if there isn't a series
left TO sponsor a car in, well...


  108.   murb posted:
  09.06.2014 - 6:22 pm
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Dale Jr also won the 1998 Busch title in his rookie year. So it's
happened multiple times before. No idea why some would be outraged by
Chase winning (and at this point, I'll be shocked if he doesn't win it).
He has far and away been the best series regular all year. He deserves it.


  109.   Hinch27 posted:
  09.06.2014 - 7:03 pm
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^He did indeed.


  110.   racefangurl posted:
  09.06.2014 - 11:24 pm
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Truex and Jr. were how old when they were rookie champs? I think they
weren't kids. Chase is under 21 so some would call him a kid. He's 18,
in addition to being a rookie, so it's still pie-in-the-sky stuff, but
Ty Dillon would be less so, if he had the points lead. If Ty was where
Chase is, it would be not so pie in the sky, since he's closer to the
rookie champs in age since he's 22 and they, too were in their twenties.


  111.   Watto posted:
  09.07.2014 - 3:16 pm
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Brian Vickers was 19 for most of his 2003 Nationwide championship, and
that was his first full season.

The thing that you have to consider is the competition level difference
between Cup and Nationwide. It's extremely unlikely for a rookie to win
a Cup championship. It's way more likely for a Nationwide rookie to win
the championship when it's a talent capable of running Cup. Age is often
just a number, it comes down to talent and ability. Consider the open
wheel ranks and rookies doing extremely well in GP2, Indy Lights,
anything you can think of. We're not talking about Cup here - Cup
drivers are ineligible to compete for the Nationwide title. If you give
a new driver who's *clearly* a Cup-level talent a great team, he has a
chance of getting it done.

It's not wise to write someone off simply for being a rookie in the
Nationwide series. If Chase Elliott doesn't win the title, it won't be
because of rookie-like mistakes, I'll tell you that. It'll be because
Regan Smith stepped up his game in a huge way while Chase Elliott ran as
he has all year, or it'll be because of mechanical failures or getting
wrecked by someone else.


  112.   racefangurl posted:
  09.07.2014 - 8:59 pm
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It's hard for me to believe in an 18 year old rookie.


  113.   Watto posted:
  09.08.2014 - 12:54 am
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I think it has to be looked at on a case by case basis. Not all 18 year
old rookies are the same. Chase Elliott is clearly different from most
18 year old rookies, in a huge way. We're 25 races in with only 8 to go
and he's yet to look like an 18 year old rookie. I think when it comes
to analyzing someone's driving and odds at accomplishing something, you
should look at his actual driving, his actual actions. I mean, the only
reason I've seen you write him off is simply for being a rookie. Is
there any other reason?

When you say that any series with a rookie champ is dumbed down racing,
I don't think you're approaching it the right way. This isn't the top
level of oval racing. These things happen. If Chase Elliott wins the
title, it wouldn't mean the series is dumbed down - it means that you're
watching an incredible talent head somewhere. He's very clearly going to
be a Cup contender.


  114.   racefangurl posted:
  09.08.2014 - 9:57 am
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What you see is what you get. I write off Chase because he's an 18 year
old rookie. As a rookie, he'll do something to cause equipment failure
or else he'll be unable to get away from, say Dylan Kwsaniewski and be
wrecked to DNF, probably, in my projection. It almost seems to me he cut
a tire once, but maybe I'm just thinking of another thing. Should he lay
an egg somewhere, if it was a big enough one, in the weeks ahead, I'll
laugh. At you who believed in him as a rookie champ possibility.


  115.   Watto posted:
  09.08.2014 - 1:57 pm
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Just be sure not to laugh if he has a mechanical failure not of his
doing or cuts a tire, because I'd still be right. He's clearly got a
great chance, and I won't write him off for being a rookie, because
rookies have won the NW title before and they'll win the title again.
This is *not* the top level of stock car racing.


  116.   racefangurl posted:
  09.08.2014 - 2:18 pm
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I won't laugh unless Chase lays an egg. What are Smith's chances anyway?


  117.   racefangurl posted:
  09.08.2014 - 2:31 pm
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If the 2011 rules had been in place a year earlier, Justin Allgaier
would've been champ and Trevor Bayne in his first full Nationwide season
would've been 2nd.


  118.   Watto posted:
  09.08.2014 - 2:52 pm
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Regan Smith's chances are solid if he remains consistent. The only
problem I see is that Chase Elliott has been faster than Regan for most
of the year, and has double the top 5s of Regan to show for it. I think
that might be the biggest factor. If Regan is able to string off a
consistent final 8 races and Chase has a bad race or two, it'll be
interesting.


  119.   racefangurl posted:
  09.08.2014 - 3:13 pm
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So Smith has a chance unless he lays an egg or something. Until he gets
too far behind to catch up, I'll think rookie champ won't happen.


  120.   Daniel posted:
  09.08.2014 - 3:40 pm
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43 entered at Chicago:

-Blake Koch in the #10

-Eric McClure in the #14

-Mike Bliss in the #19

-Denny Hamlin in the #20

-Robert Richardson Jr. in the #23

-Daniel Suarez in the #29

-Paul Menard in the #33

-Josh Wise listed in the #40 (will probably be Matt DiBenedetto)

-Matt DiBenedetto listed in the #46 (will probably be somebody else)

-Brennan Newberry in the #55

-Mike Harmon in the #74

-Ross Chastain in the #80

-Joe Nemechek in the #87

-Martin Roy in the #90

-Mike Wallace in the #93

-Aric Almirola in the #98

-#84 & #91 not entered


  121.   numbah10hatah posted:
  09.08.2014 - 5:18 pm
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#23 and #87 will probably change...


  122.   JoeFan#66#87#8 posted:
  09.08.2014 - 9:21 pm
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The #46 will be Ryan Ellis, maybe for rest of year according to himself
on Twitter


  123.   Daniel posted:
  09.09.2014 - 1:16 pm
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-Kevin Swindell now in the #93


  124.   Daniel posted:
  09.10.2014 - 11:29 am
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-Cody Ware in the #23


  125.   racefangurl posted:
  09.13.2014 - 12:18 pm
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Chase will be Nationwide Rookie of the Year. I'm done talking about
Chase end-of-season projections, probably.


  126.   racefangurl posted:
  09.13.2014 - 12:25 pm
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I'm a passionate person. Like I'm 100% loyal to my top-2 favorite
drivers and passionate about them. The others on my favorites list are
my secondary drivers.


  127.   Big Mac Fan posted:
  09.20.2015 - 12:16 am
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Regardless of the series or equipment, winning the pole and leading all
the laps in a race is a huge accomplishment.


  128.   TheDewCrew posted:
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Probably the one race I've went to, that I'd like to forget. It doesn't
take much to see why. I haven't been back to a lower series race since


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