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  1.   DB1995 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 1:55 pm
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Looks like a race to miss


  2.   We need more Onion posted:
  11.08.2014 - 2:00 pm
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Well... with the Kyle-BK front row and Silver Spoon IV in P3, id
definitely does.


  3.   Sarf52 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 2:08 pm
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I was considering watching this race for Bowman; but after seeing this
front row I think I'm gonna pass...


  4.   MAR posted:
  11.08.2014 - 2:09 pm
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Alex Bowman will pull an upset win i hope.


  5.   David posted:
  11.08.2014 - 2:20 pm
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With Chase Elliott's 48-point lead and tenth-place starting position, I
think it's time to start baking the pie.


  6.   racefangurl posted:
  11.08.2014 - 2:29 pm
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Chase may be starting 10th, but Regan Smith is starting 6th. As Chase
has said, a lot can happen, so they may take the fight all the way to
Homestead. It depends on how it goes for the JR Motorsports drivers.
They could very easily remain the top-2. The most likely scenario is JR
Motorsports sweeps Rookie of the Year and champ, barring Smith having
trouble, probably with a 1-2 finish. The top-6 in points are all
starting in the top-12. The name lock for the top-6 could become
mathematical today.


  7.   cjs3872 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 2:43 pm
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And remember that all Chase Elliott really needs to is to keep Regan
Smith in sight, because even if he loses four points off his lead, he'll
still have a big enough point lead that all he'll have to do is to start
the finale and he'll clinch the title. Since he owns all the
tie-breakers, Elliott needs to only have a 44-point lead over second
place, whoever that is, to lock up the title today because then all he
needs to do is to start the finale. Remember that the maximum number of
points that can be gained or lost in a single race in the Nationwide
Series is 44, not 47, since only 40 cars start in the Nationwide Series.
And with the start-and-parks, that number is really closer to 38-40, so
any finish in the top ten locks up the title for Elliott, barring a
post-race technical rules infraction that would take points away from
him. And things are made much easier for him since the four-point bump
for winning the race is not in play in the Nationwide Series, barring a
real surprise that nobody sees coming. That's something Regan Smith
could use, but can't get because of all the Cup participation.

One interesting thing in this race is to see how Alex Bowman fares at
his home track in the same equipment that Smith and Elliott are in, and
could this be a push for next year, much like Regan Smith used a win at
Homestead two years ago to launch serious campaigns for the championship
in this series the past two years. A good run for Bowman might launch
something similar.


  8.   racefangurl posted:
  11.08.2014 - 2:57 pm
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I'm going to a benefit dinner tonight, so I won't be online for the
whole race. I have start getting ready in a bit as it's almost 3:00 in
my time zone and the dinner starts at 4. I probably can jump in after
the dinner, but won't be glued to our computer. I'll check on the race,
though. Since we don't have ESPN at home, I'll have to rely on the
Internet to see what's up. I'll follow this race and the Homestead race
as I'm able to because I can't miss my Nationwide driver's finale, at
least as a full-time driver in the series.


  9.   murb posted:
  11.08.2014 - 2:59 pm
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It would be awesome to see Bowman become JRM/HMS's next project driver.
He probably won't be able to run full time next year because it's pretty
late in the season to get something together (though if a sponsor comes
along, you never know), but I think running 10 or so races in the #88
car alongside Jr, Harvick, and Kahne would be great for him next year.
And then once Chase moves up to Cup in 2016 (in my mind there's almost
zero chance that DOESN'T happen), maybe he could take Chase's place and
run full time.

So hopefully something like that will happen with Bowman. Anything to
get him out of BK's boxes of hell.


  10.   epzik8 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 3:16 pm
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I don't think this is "a race to miss", since it could decide the
championship. But it also might not.


  11.   Eric posted:
  11.08.2014 - 3:21 pm
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What happens to Bowman actually could depend on happens to Kurt Busch. I
am saying that because if Kurt goes to jail, some driver is going to
take his place that is going to cause a series of events to happen
unless Kasey Kahne takes over the ride 2016.

I bringing this up because of what the deaths of Alan Kulwicki, Davey
Allison, and the near death of Ernie Irvan did in the 1993 to 1994 time
period.

The fact is there wouldn't be a race between after Homestead and Daytona
for the cup series. That is enough time to complete an investigation in
terms of what Kurt did. The fact is Stewart Haas has to hire a driver if
Kurt has to go to trial during the season.


  12.   23andJoe posted:
  11.08.2014 - 3:28 pm
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I wouldn't call Jones a "Silver Spoon" driver. He got the KBM/JGR rides
after straight-up beating Kyle Busch at the Snowball Derby in his family
team's car; he earned it on merit (whatever else you can say about him,
Kyle does seem to have a good eye for talent) and has proven that hiring
him was a wise choice indeed.


...that said with Kyle and Brad on the front row the odds of anybody
else winning today are "terribly slim, Brain."


  13.   murb posted:
  11.08.2014 - 3:30 pm
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"What happens to Bowman actually could depend on happens to Kurt Busch."

I was thinking about that too. Maybe Regan ends up in the #41 for a year
(before Kahne takes it over in 2016 after Chase takes over the #5),
while Bowman replaces Regan in the NXS ride. IF Kurt does end up getting
in serious trouble over this, I could see something like that happening.

But for now I'm gonna hold off on that, since there's a lot left to be
played out with Kurt's deal. I just hope that in some shape or form,
Bowman ends up sticking with the JRM/HMS camp.


  14.   murb posted:
  11.08.2014 - 3:31 pm
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I know, Erik Jones is literally the furthest thing from a "Silver Spoon"
driver.


  15.   Dave #38 Fan-Go Gilliland! posted:
  11.08.2014 - 3:57 pm
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"I don't think this is "a race to miss", since it could decide the
championship."

It is. The only championship battle BSPN will focus on today is the
all-important owners championship battle between the #22 and #54. *eyeroll*


  16.   BMan0213 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 4:01 pm
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Yeah Something tells me nothing is gonna happen to Kurt. Waiting a month
and a half to bring something like that to the cops just seems very
fishy to me.

As for Erik Jones I'm really beginning to think this kid is the real
deal. When it comes to the top prospects in the sport the only two I'd
put in front of him are Chase and Ryan Blaney. I really think this kid
is gonna have a good future in the sport.


  17.   Jarrett88fan posted:
  11.08.2014 - 4:08 pm
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Pretty fair Nationwide thank you commercial.


  18.   that e-guy posted:
  11.08.2014 - 4:14 pm
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I hope Bowman wins.


  19.   Schroeder51 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 4:17 pm
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Erik Jones moves around Keselowski for second.


  20.   Schroeder51 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 4:19 pm
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Dylan Kwasniewski gets a black flag for changing lanes at the start.


  21.   Schroeder51 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 4:33 pm
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Brennan Newberry finds the wall hard off turn 4, and the caution is out
for the first time today.


  22.   Anonymous posted:
  11.08.2014 - 4:36 pm
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In using fastest 40: #46 Ryan Ellis

Out using fastest 40: #23 Mackenna Bell


  23.   epzik8 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 4:40 pm
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One of the safety trucks appears to have caught on fire...


  24.   epzik8 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 4:42 pm
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Actually it was Newberry's car on fire.


  25.   Schroeder51 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 4:43 pm
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Newberry's car has been towed away, but yet it STILL continues to burn
back in the garage.


  26.   Bradley Thomas posted:
  11.08.2014 - 4:43 pm
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Car burning out of control. Red flag may be called due to lack of vision
in turn 4.


  27.   Bradley Thomas posted:
  11.08.2014 - 4:43 pm
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Never mind, green back out.


  28.   Bradley Thomas posted:
  11.08.2014 - 4:44 pm
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Car may still be burning. There's smoke in turns 1 and 2. That's what
I'm reporting on the TV right now.


  29.   Schroeder51 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 4:48 pm
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Chase Elliott has moved up to fifth while Regan Smith has backslid to
eighth spot.

I'm telling you, Elliott is going to be crowned the champion TODAY.


  30.   Peter posted:
  11.08.2014 - 4:57 pm
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Could we see history today? To my recollection no rookie has ever won
the championship in the three NASCAR national touring series...save for
their inaugural seasons of course


  31.   Schroeder51 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:01 pm
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Another flat tire sends Landon Cassill hard into the outside wall.
Second caution flag.


  32.   that e-guy posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:02 pm
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Landon crashed. That sucks :(


  33.   epzik8 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:03 pm
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And a fire just like Newberry's, but smaller.


  34.   Schroeder51 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:04 pm
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Smith takes two tires and wins the race out of the pits. Obviously his
team is trying to use strategy to keep him in the title hunt, but I
don't think it's going to work out...


  35.   JasonB72 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:07 pm
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Hate seeing that. Cassil has made chicken salad out of chicken poop this
year in that JD Motorsports car. They've really been solid.


  36.   JasonB72 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:08 pm
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And Smith now has a lap-led bonus point. Could be important for the
clinch prospects of Chase Elliott.


  37.   Matt L posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:12 pm
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Saw KB and BK riding first and second with an 8 second margin on third
and turned off the tv.


  38.   Schroeder51 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:20 pm
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Jamie Dick and Dakoda Armstrong spin out, and caution #3 flies.


  39.   JasonB72 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:21 pm
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Caution for spins by Dakota Armstrong and Jamie Dick. They ran out of
room in Turn 3 and made contact. Both cars should be able to continue.


  40.   Schroeder51 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:23 pm
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Regan Smith takes two tires and comes out second, while Chase takes four
and restarts midpack.


  41.   murb posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:25 pm
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Eventually I'd have to imagine all these two tire stops will end up
hurting Regan in the long run.


  42.   epzik8 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:30 pm
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Larson bumped Elliott on the restart.


  43.   DB1995 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:37 pm
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Watching Georgia demolish Kentucky is better than this.


  44.   MAR posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:38 pm
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So since this race is a yawner who is the 5 best prospects in nascar and
please nobody say Kyle Larson he's already a cup driver.


  45.   Hinch77 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:40 pm
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1. Kyle Larson
2. Kyle Larson
3. Kyle Larson
4. Kyle Larson
5. Kyle Larson


  46.   BradKeselowski2Fan posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:40 pm
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Ryan Blaney, Bubba Wallace, Erik Jones, Chase Elliott, and Alex Bowman.


  47.   DB1995 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:48 pm
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1. Ryan Blaney
2. Chase
3. Ross Chastain
4. Bubba
5. Erik Jones


  48.   MAR posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:48 pm
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1.Ryan Blaney
2.Chase Elliott
3.Bubba Wallace
4.Erik Jones
5.Chris Buesher


  49.   Schroeder51 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:50 pm
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1. Ryan Blaney
2. Erik Jones
3. Darrell Wallace
4. Chase Elliott
5. Chris Buescher


  50.   Schroeder51 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:50 pm
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Jacques has arrived!


  51.   Anonymous posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:50 pm
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I love how neither Austin or Ty Dillon are on any of these list. They're
solid drivers, but far from super stars


  52.   JasonB72 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:50 pm
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Caution... debris front stretch.


  53.   We need more Onion posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:50 pm
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Yes! Clements stays on the lead lap.


  54.   MAR posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:51 pm
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Kyle Larson is already in cup
And technically Alex Bowman is to i cant count them
Ross Chastain hasnt had enough races yet


  55.   JasonB72 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:51 pm
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Also, if Kyle Larson isn't a prospect, then Austin Dillon isn't either.


  56.   The Long Shot posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:52 pm
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My ten drivers that I would want to build a franchise around:

1. Blaney
2. Jones
3. Wallace
4. Elliott
5. Rhodes
6. C. Buescher
7. Bowman
8. Nemechek
9. Custer
10. J. Buescher

Other honorable mentions: Bayne, B. Jones, LaJoie, Tifft, Ruston


  57.   JasonB72 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:52 pm
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Kyle Busch may be pinned in traffic.


  58.   MAR posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:53 pm
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Ty Dillon a top prospect LMAO are u serious


  59.   BradKeselowski2Fan posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:53 pm
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Bowman is driving garbage in Cup, so I'm going to still look at him as a
prospect.


  60.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:53 pm
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How many stayed out?
I would love a good stomp-away from Kyle if he can't come back.


  61.   The Long Shot posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:54 pm
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"Ty Dillon a top prospect LMAO are u serious"

Factoring in equipment and ride opportunities, he's easily in the
conversation. Otherwise, meh.


  62.   JasonB72 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:55 pm
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1. Ryan Blaney
2. Chase Elliott
3. Erik Jones
4. Darrell Wallace Jr.
5. Cole Custer


  63.   DB1995 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:55 pm
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A good 10 cars stayed out


  64.   JasonB72 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:56 pm
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Three cars stayed out (22, 11, 5)


  65.   We need more Onion posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:56 pm
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My opinion gets a slightly different list:
1.Cole Whitt (I know he is a cup driver, but still)
2.Chris Buescher
3.Chase Elliott
4.Erik Jones
5.Ross Chastain

Blaney is also a very good driver, but I still don't really believe in
him. His performance in the #21 could change my opinion big time.


  66.   DB1995 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:56 pm
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Never mind i guess some of those i counted were lapped cars


  67.   MAR posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:57 pm
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6.Brian Scott
7.John Hunter Nemecheck
8.Ryan Sieg
9.James Buesher
10.Ben Rhodes


  68.   JasonB72 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:57 pm
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Cole Whitt is a solid driver. Probably runs the best of the guys at BK
Racing


  69.   Schroeder51 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:57 pm
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Ah yes, here we go! Our All-Important Owners' Championship Update. Thank
you ESPN, I was waiting to hear about that!


  70.   Schroeder51 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:58 pm
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Chase Elliott goes three wide and passes both Smith and Erik Jones for
position.


  71.   We need more Onion posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:58 pm
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"Ross Chastain hasnt had enough races yet "
Dafaq?
He has 43 truck starts and 6 nationwide. Jones has 17 truck starts and
is making his 2nd nationwide ...


  72.   Schroeder51 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:59 pm
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Kyle has caught Brad for the lead. Look for him to blow right by him in
a minute...


  73.   Schroeder51 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:59 pm
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...and there he goes. Race over.


  74.   MAR posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:59 pm
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Ty Dillion is only in the conversation because pop
Pop can out spend 99% of the truck field and 85% of the nationwide field
really.


  75.   The Long Shot posted:
  11.08.2014 - 5:59 pm
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Cole Whitt at #1? Very talented young driver, but his results haven't
been that spectacular so far in his career. And I like me some Ross
Chastain (should have placed him in my top 10), but he's not a top 5
prospect.


  76.   DB1995 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:00 pm
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You can have it Kyle, No one will care.


  77.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:00 pm
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So much for that...


  78.   The Long Shot posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:01 pm
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Hell, I forgot Sieg! Add him to my honorable mentions.


  79.   murb posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:01 pm
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I made a big post on the Truck page (post #96, to be exact) about what I
think about some of the top prospects, so if anyone cares that's where
you can find my thoughts are on it.

Other guys who I think are legit besides the Big Four (Chase, Blaney,
Bubba, Jones): Chris Buescher, Alex Bowman (Brad2Fan is right, he's in
garbage Cup equipment, so he still counts), John Hunter Nemechek, Cole
Custer, Ben Rhodes.

And as for the Dillons, while I think they will both have decent to good
Newman/Biffle type Cup careers, I definitely don't see either of them
becoming prolific winners and/or title contenders. They'll be good, but
I see a bunch of these other guys passing them up big time.


  80.   DB1995 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:01 pm
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I really hope Ross Chastain can get a full time ride somewhere, i was
pissed when he announced he wasnt returning to BKR


  81.   Schroeder51 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:02 pm
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My honorable mentions: Ross Chastain, Ben Rhodes, John Hunter Nemechek,
James Buescher, and Cole Custer.


  82.   JasonB72 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:02 pm
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Ryan Sieg is an excellent driver. Give him good equipment, and he'll
excel. Heck, look how he runs in that garbage 39 car.


  83.   We need more Onion posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:03 pm
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Cole and Ross are the only two who have shown speed in crappy equipment.
That is why I take them over people like Elliott or Blaney.


  84.   Schroeder51 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:03 pm
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Elliott is in position right now to wrap up the title today. If things
stay the same for the final 15 laps, he will leave this race 51 points
ahead of Smith, which will be enough.


  85.   We need more Onion posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:05 pm
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"Ryan Sieg is an excellent driver. Give him good equipment, and he'll
excel. Heck, look how he runs in that garbage 39 car."
Totally.
Clements, Cassill and Sieg could easily win races in Ty's cars for example.


  86.   The Long Shot posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:05 pm
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"I really hope Ross Chastain can get a full time ride somewhere, i was
pissed when he announced he wasnt returning to BKR"

Me too, although Tyler Reddick's been impressive in that ride this year.
With any luck, he'll be back in Trucks full-time next year.


  87.   epzik8 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:07 pm
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I'm more concerned about the championship than the race right now.


  88.   Schroeder51 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:08 pm
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Tyler Reddick has performed quite a lot better than I honestly THOUGHT
he would, but I still wish Chastain could have stayed with BKR for this
year. I kind of think he would have done even better this year than last
year...


  89.   Schroeder51 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:08 pm
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Five laps until Chase wins the title.


  90.   The Long Shot posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:09 pm
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"Cole and Ross are the only two who have shown speed in crappy
equipment. That is why I take them over people like Elliott or Blaney."

We don't know how well people like Elliott or Blaney would do in shit
cars, though. And it's not as if Cole and Ross haven't had
opportunities. Whitt was good, but not great with JR Motorsports in
Nationwide back in 2012, and Chastain was fast, but horribly
inconsistent with BKR in Trucks last year. Don't get me wrong: I really
like both of them, but I don't consider them top 5 prospects.


  91.   We need more Onion posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:09 pm
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"I'm more concerned about the championship than the race right now. "

To sum up Nationwide series: I'm more concerned about Clements finishing
on the lead lap and DiBenedetto actually finishing...


  92.   murb posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:10 pm
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I think Cole Whitt could be pretty good in good equipment, but he's not
even close to a top prospect in my mind. I'd put him sort of in the same
category as Landon Cassill (though I think Cassill is quite a bit better).

And I like Ross Chastain too, but unfortunately I'm just not sure if I
see him ever making it. Unless he gets hooked up with a Cup team, he's
probably just gonna be one of these really good guys stuck in junk
equipment.


  93.   We need more Onion posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:10 pm
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lel


  94.   DB1995 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:10 pm
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Caution Bowman outta fuel


  95.   Fireball1020 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:10 pm
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Caution. Like it's gonna do much.


  96.   The Long Shot posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:10 pm
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Damn it, tough break for Bowman.


  97.   Schroeder51 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:10 pm
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Alex Bowman slows and the caution comes out. Yay, GWC time!


  98.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:10 pm
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Ha ha. Yellow is out about 50 yards short of Kyle getting the white flag.


  99.   JasonB72 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:11 pm
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Alex Bowman has some sort of issue. Heartbreaking to see. Here comes a GWC.


  100.   that e-guy posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:11 pm
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Poor Bowman.


  101.   We need more Onion posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:11 pm
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It'd be really pleasing to see the top 2 wreck eachother.


  102.   Fireball1020 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:12 pm
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Keselowski plz.


  103.   MAR posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:12 pm
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Top 5 most underrated young drivers in cup
1.Landon Cassill
2.Cole Whitt
3.Alex Bowman
4.Justin Alligaire
5.Clay Rodgers


  104.   JasonB72 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:12 pm
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Alex Bowman really proved himself today. Hopefully he gets some
opportunities here.


  105.   Schroeder51 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:12 pm
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Virtually no one pits under this caution.


  106.   Schroeder51 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:14 pm
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"5.Clay Rodgers"

Clay Rogers is 34 years old; I don't think I would call him an
underrated young prospect. Would like to see him get at least a decent
shot at Cup, though.


  107.   We need more Onion posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:14 pm
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#103 totally proves my theory on the ACTUAL most underrated cup driver.
Annett

(Don't get me wrong, Cassill, Allgaier, Bowman and Whitt are probably
better, but people take notice of their performances quite often)


  108.   The Long Shot posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:14 pm
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"Top 5 most underrated young drivers in cup
1.Landon Cassill
2.Cole Whitt
3.Alex Bowman
4.Justin Alligaire
5.Clay Rodgers"

Clay Rogers is 30 years old. Not a young gun by any means.


  109.   Jarrett88fan posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:15 pm
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Delaying the inevitable...


  110.   The Long Shot posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:16 pm
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Schroeder51's right, he's 34. My mistake.

Annett strikes me as someone who will bounce from small team to small
team, but will never get a really good opportunity with a more funded
organization. Unfortunate, but that's how things are.


  111.   Schroeder51 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:16 pm
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Keselowski blows by Kyle on the last lap for the lead. Wow, definitely
did not expect that!


  112.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:17 pm
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Brad just stole one.


  113.   We need more Onion posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:17 pm
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Clements 11th :)


  114.   murb posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:17 pm
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lol, Kyle gives the win up on the last lap to Brad.

Chase takes the championship. Hell of a job all year from him. He proved
me wrong. He's for real.


  115.   Fireball1020 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:17 pm
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Congratulations to your 2014 NASCAR Nationwide Series champion Chase
Elliott.


  116.   JasonB72 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:17 pm
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WOW. Kyle must be pissed.


  117.   We need more Onion posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:18 pm
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Meanwhile Kwasniewski blows a race once again.


  118.   Jarrett88fan posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:18 pm
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Somewhere the pies are flying.


  119.   DB1995 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:18 pm
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Did not expect to see Brad in a car on older tires just flat outdrive
Kyle Busch like that. Its still a Nationwide race though


  120.   Schroeder51 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:19 pm
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Kyle Busch utterly dominates this race, but ends up coming short as
Keselowski blew by him on the last lap to win. I wonder if Kyle's going
to be REALLY pissed off about that...I wouldn't doubt it!

And racefangurl...I'm sorry to say it, but you had better go out and buy
some pie to eat now. Chase Elliott did exactly what I predicted he would
do today: wrap up the title with a solid top-5 finish. His chances of
winning the Nationwide championship...were NOT pie in the sky.

Good job by Elliott all season long...he was clearly the best Nationwide
regular throughout this season. Smith had a good season, but Elliott was
just clearly better than him in virtually every category. Let's see if
Chase can go back to back in 2015!


  121.   Chad's Hair Plugs posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:19 pm
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I still get to see a Kyle Busch stomp-off.
Speaking of Busch, its still the Busch Series to Rick Hendrick, haha


  122.   We need more Onion posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:20 pm
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"Annett strikes me as someone who will bounce from small team to small
team, but will never get a really good opportunity with a more funded
organization. Unfortunate, but that's how things are. "
Yeah, same. I expect him to have a career like Lepage, sans the endless
S&Ping/DNQing.


  123.   racefangurl posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:21 pm
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Bye bye Nationwide Series. I may come to the comments pages sometimes
when Joey or Trevor are running the races. I won't watch the races
anymore, though. Now I'm focused on Sunday. Joey ran well at Phoenix in
March. Maybe he can lock himself into the final round tomorrow.


  124.   murb posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:21 pm
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Seriously cannot believe Kyle lost that race. Brad had old ass tires,
yet Kyle still lost the lead to him.


  125.   Jarrett88fan posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:21 pm
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Thanks to an itchy arm, Napa came onboard to sponsor the 2014 Nationwide
Series Champion.


  126.   Schroeder51 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:21 pm
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That is the second time this year in the Nationwide Series that Kyle has
dominated an entire race only to lose to the #22 car on the final restart.


  127.   Schroeder51 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:22 pm
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"Yeah, same. I expect him to have a career like Lepage, sans the endless
S&Ping/DNQing."

Unfortunately, I see the same for Landon Cassill as well, which is a
damned shame as I honestly think he might able to be fairly good in at
least a semi-competitive ride...


  128.   Schroeder51 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:25 pm
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I just realized I am now officially older than a major NASCAR series
champion.

Damn, I honestly feel old now! I can only imagine how I'll feel one day
when I'm older than EVERY single driver in the top 3 NASCAR series...


  129.   jabber1990 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:25 pm
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Kyle complained to MRN about "kyle Busch cautions"


  130.   The Long Shot posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:25 pm
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Well done to Chase. He absolutely deserves it. Watching him and Ryan
Blaney dueling it out for the title next year will be a TREAT to watch.

And post #123 was me. No disrespect intended, racefangurl: I just wanted
to see if my satire would get anyone going. ;)


  131.   We need more Onion posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:26 pm
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Nice interview, displaying an attitude a champion should have. Kudos to
Chase.


  132.   Kevin posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:26 pm
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If it was almost anyone else I'd feel so bad for Kyle, in terms of
questionable and unnecessary cautions that one might be top of the list
for the year.


  133.   epzik8 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:27 pm
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I'm so happy that Chase Elliott is the series champion. Also a good
finish to the race.


  134.   We need more Onion posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:28 pm
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My driver made up 4 places with it, so I'm happy, but still agree. One
of the most unnecessary cautions in a year with a lot of them.


  135.   murb posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:31 pm
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I'm really happy for Bill too. He's one of my all time favorites. It's
gotta be awesome (no pun intended) for him to see Chase running like this.

And yeah, I think Chase and Blaney are gonna have an awesome battle for
the title next year. Ryan has already proven that he knows these cars,
so there shouldn't really be any learning curve for him. He should be
able to just jump right in and take it to Chase for the title.

But yeah, that should be a lot of fun watching those guys. Hopefully
Bubba will get the #11 car too and end up being the third head in that
battle.


  136.   DB1995 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 6:32 pm
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Maybe a week of unnecessary things, unnecessary to end the race last
night, unnecessary caution at the end, probably an unnecessary fight
tommorow ontop of countless unnecessary cautions.


  137.   Paul posted:
  11.08.2014 - 7:15 pm
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Today is my 22nd birthday, so it's only fitting that the No. 22 car
pulled off the victory. I would have rather seen Joey Logano or Ryan
Blaney behind the wheel, but it's still pretty cool. Plus, my favorite
NNS driver, Jeremy Clements, finished in 11th place (His best non-plate
oval finish of the season.), so this race gets no complaints from me.

Congratulations to Chase Elliott on becoming first rookie to win a
national NASCAR series championship, as well as becoming the youngest
national NASCAR series champion in the sport's history. I'm not a big
fan of his (mostly because he's far too vanilla for my taste), but I do
respect his abilities as a driver and think he'll one day be a great Cup
driver as well. Since he's pretty much guaranteed to return for a
sophomore NNS season, he's my pick to win back-to-back titles in 2015.


  138.   Aframe43 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 7:15 pm
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Racefangurl: Good riddance. You won't be missed.


  139.   Paul posted:
  11.08.2014 - 7:23 pm
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"Top 5 most underrated young drivers in cup
1.Landon Cassill
2.Cole Whitt
3.Alex Bowman
4.Justin Alligaier
5.Clay Rodgers"

And just think that Richard Petty Motorsports could have hired any one
of these drivers for 2015, (I'd throw in the free agent Parker Kligerman
and their former driver, Michael Annett, as well), yet they signed the
35-year old Cup retread, Sam Hornish, Jr. instead.

"I think Chase and Blaney are gonna have an awesome battle for the title
next year."

Is Ryan Blaney gonna even have a full-time NNS ride next season? Last I
checked he was still slated to share the No. 22 car with Keselowski and
Logano. I'd love to see him give Elliott a run for his money, though.


  140.   Sarf52 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 7:24 pm
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Aframe, you the man


  141.   cjs3872 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 7:25 pm
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I don't think it was unnecessary to end the race last night, DB1995. I
think it was unnecessary to RUN the race last night, because the
lighting problems (and I wouldn't be surprised if it was a rolling
blackout, something that happens out west because of the energy and
power grid problems they have out there) before the race even started,
and the hour-plus delay it caused, should have been a signal that it
might not have been a good idea to run the race last night. Calling the
race when NASCAR did was the only reasonable thing they could have done,
because it could have been a couple of hours before they could have
restarted that race, if they could have at all, so calling it when they
did was the right thing to do.

But NASCAR's decision to throw that caution near the end when Alex
Bowman slowed down is still another example of the incompetency of the
NASCAR officials, because they should never have thrown the caution just
for a car that was slowing down, just to close up the field to provide
an exciting finish, and what ended up happening is that NASCAR stole a
race from Kyle Busch with incompetent officiating. Simple as that.
They've had an unwritten rule for generations in IndyCar racing,
especially at the Indianapolis 500, that the officials never throw a
caution inside the last ten laps of the race unless it's absolutely
necessary, and I can remember when NASCAR had virtually the same policy,
but policy means nothing if you have officials that consistently prove
they can't properly officiate a race, and the end of today's race was
another case of that.

But while Alex Bowman had a great run and proved that he can race with
the top drivers in the sport, if given the right opportunity (his was
the best car, outside the 22 and 54 cars), you somehow knew that, at
some point in the race, the other shoe was going to drop on him, and
something bad was going to happen. After all, he doesn't have the
nickname "Bad Luck Bowman" for no reason. After all, this is the same
driver that had a battery fall out at Bristol this spring because it
wasn't held by tissue paper. On the other hand, remember what I stated
in post #7 in this thread about how a good showing could open up other
opportunities for Bowman next year, including possibly one at JR
Motorsports. Anyone who watched this race today surely had to take
notice on how good Bowman can be, as he outran his teammates practically
all day, and you can almost guarantee that some car owner has to take
notice, and if his deal at BK Racing falls through (or if they let him
go), a good opportunity is almost certain to open up, because he roved
that he belongs in one of the top series of NASCAR, even if it's not in
the Cup Series.


  142.   murb posted:
  11.08.2014 - 7:28 pm
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"Is Ryan Blaney gonna even have a full-time NNS ride next season?"

They're bringing back the #12 car full time for him (and I believe I
read somewhere that Snap On will be the sponsor for the majority of the
season). I don't think they've officially announced it yet, but it's
pretty widely known that it's going to happen. So he'll be doing that
along with his part time Wood Brothers deal in Cup.


  143.   NazRacePhan posted:
  11.08.2014 - 7:46 pm
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Yellow flag for someone slowing due to running out of gas.... That's a
new one!!! *slow, sarcastic clapping for NASCAM *


  144.   Jarrett88fan posted:
  11.08.2014 - 7:55 pm
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Happy birthday Paul...bizzare coincidence on the #22.


  145.   Christian posted:
  11.08.2014 - 7:57 pm
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@142

Why not put Blaney in the 22 car instead? For one Blaney's twitter
handle is @RyanBlaney22, and 2nd, he should be in the car that is able
to contend for a win every week. Him being put in the 12 means that
Roger is still too focused on using his Cup drivers to win an owner's
championship in the 22.


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  147.   BradKeselowski2Fan posted:
  11.08.2014 - 8:00 pm
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I wouldn't be surprised if Blaney could win the owner's championship
with just him driving the car.


  148.   racefangurl posted:
  11.08.2014 - 8:09 pm
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123 is fake. I just got home from that benefit dinner, since we went to
Wal-Mart afterwards. I'll watch Homestead because it's T-Bayne's last
race as a regular in this series. The Nationwide top-6 is mathematically
name locked as the gap between 6th and 7th exceeds the points that can
be gained in a race. There was pie for sale at the dinner, but I didn't
buy any. I'll have to wait until Thanksgiving to eat pie. One week and
I'm done with this section of these boards. Btw, who trolled me in @123?


  149.   murb posted:
  11.08.2014 - 8:10 pm
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I was pretty vocal about wanting to see Hornish in the #9 Cup car (a
young guy would have been great, but out of the guys they were actually
considering, I'd definitely take Sam), but after seeing how Bowman has
done with JRM (even if it is only two starts thus far), I'm kind of
wishing now that Regan Smith would have gotten the #9 Cup car just so
Bowman could have a full time JRM NNS deal for next year.

Like I said at the start of the race, hopefully Bowman will end up
sticking with the JRM/HMS camp, even if it's only a partial schedule for
next year. I think he definitely proved today that he is really fast in
those cars. He's already proven that he's an exceptionally smart racer.
All he needs is the equipment. So hopefully they decide to keep him
around next year.

Also, here's a thought: Since Chase Elliott is virtually a lock for the
#5 Cup car in 2016 (he'll definitely be ready by then at this rate -
they'd be stupid to resign Kahne instead), that leaves Jeff Gordon's
replacement up in the air. Well, if they're looking for someone to groom
for that, I think Bowman would be a really smart choice. You could run
him part time in NXS next year, with full time stints in 2016 and 2017
following that (basically as Chase's replacement once he moves to Cup).
And then, once Gordon retires (I'll be really surprised if he doesn't
retire after 2017 - that's the last year of his 3M deal, and that will
be his 25th season overall), you have your very own in-house replacement
ready to go for 2018. To me it seems like a great plan.

So I REALLY hope something like that happens with Bowman. Fortunately,
Jr and Hendrick have been pretty smart with their development drivers
lately (Brad even though he wound up at Penske, Chase, etc), and surely
they see the talent he has. So hopefully Bowman is next in line for them
after Chase, as far as development goes.


  150.   racefangurl posted:
  11.08.2014 - 8:11 pm
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I was sure this would be Chokevember. I can't believe this!


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  152.   Db1995 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 8:15 pm
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"Late caution allows veteran to pass Kyle Busch for victory"

NASCAR.com actually said this. Is Kyle a rookie or what? Do they not
realize hes been in longer than Brad.


  153.   murb posted:
  11.08.2014 - 8:18 pm
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"Why not put Blaney in the 22 car instead?"

The #22 is still gonna be their "Owner's Championship" car. I really
don't mind that as much since Brad and Joey don't really run THAT many
races (though I would like it if they a ran a few less - but they
certainly aren't as annoying as Gibbs and Kyle with the amount of races
they run). As long as Ryan is able to run full time (which, according to
just about everyone in the garage, he is), that's fine with me.

Besides, assuming they bring back the Greg Erwin led #12 team that
Hornish almost won the 2013 title with, I think he'll absolutely have no
problems running up front every week. If Hornish was able to almost win
the championship with that team, then there's no doubt in my mind Ryan
will win multiple races and contend hard for the championship in that
car. I might actually consider taking him over Chase now that I think
about it, since Penske overall is better than JRM.


  154.   Anonymous posted:
  11.08.2014 - 8:31 pm
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If you have a different view on this that is fine but Cup drivers
shouldn't be allowed to race in the Nationwide or Truck series unless
they quit driving in the Cup series first. I have nothing against Cup
drivers owning teams in the lower series but if they want to drive in
lower series they need to quit the Cup series first.


  155.   Watto posted:
  11.08.2014 - 8:38 pm
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"If you have a different view on this that is fine but Cup drivers
shouldn't be allowed to race in the Nationwide or Truck series unless
they quit driving in the Cup series first. I have nothing against Cup
drivers owning teams in the lower series but if they want to drive in
lower series they need to quit the Cup series first."

The problem with black and white rules is that it'll really affect guys
like Landon Cassill.


  156.   racefangurl posted:
  11.08.2014 - 8:39 pm
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What was it like to go through a Nationwide race without my comments
during the race?


  157.   Hinch77 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 8:41 pm
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"And post #123 was me. No disrespect intended, racefangurl: I just
wanted to see if my satire would get anyone going. ;)"

Not that anyone read this...


  158.   Hinch77 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 8:42 pm
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"What was it like to go through a Nationwide race without my comments
during the race?"

I didn't hang around much today, but I'd imagine it was strange. The
race itself was probably taken away from without your posts to keep
people in a tizzy.


  159.   racefangurl posted:
  11.08.2014 - 8:43 pm
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I may lurk on the Nationwide/Xfinity boards after this season, like I've
been lurking on the Chase Elliott comments, but I won't comment, I'll
save that for the Cup boards and driver pages, maybe a Truck race on
FOX, should that happen again.


  160.   The Long Shot posted:
  11.08.2014 - 8:49 pm
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""And post #123 was me. No disrespect intended, racefangurl: I just
wanted to see if my satire would get anyone going. ;)"

Not that anyone read this..."

Evidently it worked, lol.

Happy birthday, Paul. And yes, Blaney's driving for Penske in Nationwide
next year hasn't been announced, but it's being taken as fact by pretty
much everybody. He's easily driven well enough to secure the ride, and
heaven knows Penske likes him a lot. The announcement of the part-time
Wood Bros. deal pretty much sealed it in most people's eyes.


  161.   racefangurl posted:
  11.08.2014 - 8:50 pm
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At least Trevor had a top-10 finish in this race. I'm comforting myself,
trying to find some good in what happened today.


  162.   BradKeselowski2Fan posted:
  11.08.2014 - 8:53 pm
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@149

Maybe they could put Elliott in the 5 car for 2016. Then, when Bowman
(if he does race for JRM full time in the near future) is ready and
Gordon retires, Elliott can jump to the 24 car and Bowman takes the 5.
I'm pretty sure Elliott is the better driver of the two and the 24 is
the better car, so Elliott would make a better candidate for the 24 than
Bowman.


  163.   RCRandPenskeGuy posted:
  11.08.2014 - 9:34 pm
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"I wouldn't be surprised if Blaney could win the owner's championship
with just him driving the car."

I wouldn't be surprised if his abilities carry the less-focused on
Penske #12 to a championship if he drives it full-time next year. I
think Ryan is that good. He finished in the Top 5 in the Spring Bristol
race despite the #22 not being as strong as it normally is, he outdrove
Kyle Busch for the win there in the Summer night race, and he won races
for BKR in the Truck Series when they were still yet building up.

Roger just needs to convince Discount Tire so Blaney can run THAT car.
He's already proven he can win and give them as much exposure as
Keselowski and Logano.


  164.   RCRandPenskeGuy posted:
  11.08.2014 - 9:40 pm
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"I think he definitely proved today that he is really fast in those
cars. He's already proven that he's an exceptionally smart racer. All he
needs is the equipment. So hopefully they decide to keep him around next
year."

I'd really like to see that happen, too. I think he has done the best a
driver can do this year for BK Racing in Cup. Bowman got that experience
this year having to fight and claw to the extreme, now I think he's
ready to drive good equipment and know how to handle it when the setup's
not quite right on the car.


  165.   Cooper posted:
  11.08.2014 - 10:02 pm
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Brad is just better than Kyle. Sorry, guys.


  166.   MAR posted:
  11.08.2014 - 10:31 pm
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Congratulations to Chase Elliott on the nationwide title he really
deserved it even though Napa outspent the rest of the competition by a
mile and its basically a Hendrick motorsports car he still was the best
driver all year. By the way i dont see him repeating as champion if Ryan
Blaney does run full-time next year.


  167.   JasonB72 posted:
  11.08.2014 - 11:37 pm
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In 2012, NASCAR made a list of the "NASCAR NEXT 9", of nine drivers to
watch in the future. The article written about them says that they are
"a snapshot of what the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series will look like in
2020". Its fun, two years later, to look back on that list and see where
they are now:
1. Ryan Blaney
2. Chase Elliott
3. Cameron Hayley
4. Dylan Kwasniewski
5. Corey Lajoie
6. Kyle Larson
7. Sergio Peña
8. Daniel Suárez
9. Darrell Wallace Jr.


  168.   The Long Shot posted:
  11.08.2014 - 11:58 pm
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^

1. Running extremely well in Trucks, poised to move up to Nationwide
next year.
2. 2014 Nationwide champion
3. Currently running for Turner-Scott Motorsports in the East Series, as
well as a partial Truck
schedule; very impressive despite not winning any races
4. Running full-time for Turner-Scott in Nationwide; disappointing
rookie year
5. Has split between several different rides in several different series
this year
6. 2014 Sprint Cup ROTY; best rookie season since Hamlin in '06
7. Running full-time in East Series; underwhelming so far
8. Will run for JGR in Nationwide full-time next year
9. Having an excellent sophomore campaign in Trucks


  169.   The Crimson King posted:
  11.09.2014 - 12:08 am
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Man, I don't even mind rfg, even though I find it amusing how she get so
upset at a rookie winning it all. I find her antics a bit annoying, but
I don't hate her or anything.

I'll be mostly paying attention to the Brazilian GP on sunday, but once
that's over I'll switch over to the Nascar race.


  170.   rw posted:
  11.09.2014 - 1:23 am
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Wow, good job Chase!


  171.   Watto posted:
  11.09.2014 - 2:43 am
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"At least Trevor had a top-10 finish in this race. I'm comforting
myself, trying to find some good in what happened today."

You could feel happy that you witnessed a rare talent win the title... a
guy who's a Cup Series talent. You could not take articles written about
how "rookies don't win titles" so seriously and acknowledge that today
wasn't even bad. If life was predictable and everything followed a
strict formula with no exceptions, what good would THAT be? A great
talent won a title in a minor league series. There's nothing bad about
that. This kid had been racing late models for years leading up to his
NASCAR truck & Nationwide rides. He won the Snowball Derby a week after
turning 16. Let's forget about columns that say rookies can't win every
once in a while and realize that it's a lot more likely than people
think in the minor leagues when they're good enough to be in Cup. If you
can't acknowledge that, then you can't acknowledge life.


  172.   b4il3y posted:
  11.09.2014 - 3:58 am
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Watto posted:

Chase is a good driver. No one is gonna debate this. But, we dont need
these posts about who is better than who.


  173.   racefangurl posted:
  11.09.2014 - 3:17 pm
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Ty Dillon's top-5 was also good. I kinda like Ty. JR Motorsports will
sweep Rookie of Year and champ and has a decent shot at a 1-2 finish, as
long as Smith has good finish at Homestead.


  174.   New14 & 88Fan posted:
  11.09.2014 - 7:00 pm
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Didn't watch this race, but congrats to Chase Elliott and the whole #9
Napa Auto Parts Jr. Motorsports team on winning the last Nationwide
Series Championship.


  175.   New14 & 88Fan posted:
  11.09.2014 - 7:02 pm
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*Last Nationwide Series Championship that will be sponsored by
Nationwide(next year it will be the Xfinity Series).


  176.   racefangurl posted:
  11.09.2014 - 9:35 pm
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Now, some of my favorites look bad and no gives a rat's butt.


  177.   23andJoe posted:
  11.09.2014 - 10:27 pm
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#2 sponsor: Whitetail Club


  178.   23andJoe posted:
  11.09.2014 - 10:46 pm
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#23 sponsor: K. Bell Tile & Marble


  179.   Nascar Lead Lap Points posted:
  11.10.2014 - 7:29 am
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Update on the #23 sponsor
Mackena Bell Motorsports/K. Bell Tile & Marble


  180.   racefangurl posted:
  11.10.2014 - 8:43 am
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I know no one cares, but Chase just made Cole Whitt and the Dillon
brothers look bad, to be exact. Saturday's the last day I'll comment on
the boards in this section. I have my farewell post to the
Nationwide/Xfinity
boards planned. I'll post it after the checkered flags falls on
Homestead. I'll use a different name for that post, one that'll show I'm
an ex-fan of the series. That's what I'll become when Nationwide 2014's
over. I'm focused on Homestead now. I'll follow the race online, just to
see how my favorites do. I remember DB1995 paying attention to a
Nationwide race just to see how Trevor finished, so same idea as what
I'll do Saturday. I won't have a strong favorite in the dumbed down
series anymore, so I'm free to go. I may lurk in this section, but I'll
comment only on the Cup boards and if I feel an urge, driver boards and
maybe Trucks, if any are on FOX and that's all. At least for NASCAR. I
watch Indy sometimes and have watched a few F1 races, so I'll comment in
those section if I feel like it.


  181.   Scott B posted:
  11.10.2014 - 11:46 am
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Congratulations to Chase Elliott. I know he's taken some flack for his
family connections and for always having good equipment. I was somewhat
skeptical myself when he was working his way up through the lower
series. His season in NNW should remove the doubts, though.


  182.   racefangurl posted:
  11.10.2014 - 12:54 pm
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His equipment was too good. Probably had a cheat car. Either that or
dumbed down racing.


  183.   PieandPi posted:
  11.10.2014 - 12:58 pm
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Since guys like to talk about pie, how about talking about the other
kind? The circle kind of pi.


  184.   racefangurl posted:
  11.10.2014 - 2:50 pm
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I guess no one wants to talk about pi here. That comment's almost two
hours old.


  185.   Schroeder51 posted:
  11.10.2014 - 4:14 pm
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racefangurl, I know you're upset to see Smith lose the championship.
We've all been there; we've all had to watch our favorites lose
championships to people we like less (most of us weren't happy to see
Jimmie Johnson win all those Cup titles!). Hell, I'm disappointed to see
Jeff Gordon get eliminated from the championship when he's been one of
the best drivers in the Cup Series all year round. But you know what?
It's not the end of the world. At the end of the day, life will go on,
and it doesn't really matter in the long run.

I KNOW you like Smith a lot; I do too. I would like to see him get a
better shot at Cup one day, and in all honesty, I probably like him more
than Chase Elliott myself. Does that mean I think he deserved the title
over Chase? Absolutely not! Elliott had a better season than Smith,
plain and simple. You can try to argue otherwise, but the numbers don't
lie: Elliott won more than Smith, he had double the amount of top 5s,
more top 10s, signficantly more laps led, a higher average start and
finish, more lead lap finishes...The only categories Smith beat Elliott
in were laps and miles completed, and that's only because Chase had
trouble at the first Charlotte. If not for that, I'm positive Chase
would be ahead of Regan in those categories as well.

I said this on Regan's driver page and I'll say it again: just because
you like a driver doesn't mean they deserve to win the championship. Fan
support alone doesn't earn you championships; if that were the case,
there'd be no reason to watch the Cup series because Dale Jr. would win
the title every single year. You have to actually EARN your title on the
track. For Regan to win the title, he would have had to consistently
outperform Chase on the track and finish ahead of him virtually every
week. He didn't do that, and so, he didn't win the title. That's just
how it goes.

Like I said, I know it has to be disappointing as a fan of Smith to see
him lose the title. I'm sure Smith is disappointed as well that he
couldn't win it, either. But you know...I DOUBT he's anywhere near as
upset about it as you are. Again, I REALLY think you're taking this too
seriously and too personally.

I still find it incredibly silly that you plan to boycott this series
next year simply because a young, talented rookie won the title. I don't
understand WHY you think Chase winning the title is the single worst
thing to happen to this series (you REALLY think a rookie champion is
going to hurt this series more than the Cup drivers coming in and
dominating have?). You are of course entitled to your opinion (and I
realize you're probably not going to change your mind on this no matter
what I say), but I just simply don't understand your point of view on
this...and I don't think I ever will.


  186.   racefangurl posted:
  11.10.2014 - 4:27 pm
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I like a lot of drivers. 1. Trevor Bayne 2. Joey Logano 3. Martin Truex,
Jr., Landon Cassill 4. Austin Dillon 5. Cole Whitt, Jeffrey Earnhardt,
Ty Dillon, Ryan Truex, Regan Smith 6. Steve Park, Dale Earnhardt, Jr.,
Danica Patrick, Justin Allgaier, Michael McDowell. Smith is new to 5th
on my list. I added him there because he had such a good Nationwide season.


  187.   Roger posted:
  11.10.2014 - 7:44 pm
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Is anybody else as excited as I am about the prospect of how good Sprint
Cup will be in a few years will all these skilled young drivers coming
up the ranks. I can't wait. We might see our best racing in years.


  188.   urr posted:
  11.10.2014 - 8:52 pm
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"I know no one cares, but Chase just made Cole Whitt and the Dillon
brothers look bad, to be exact."

Well maybe he made them look bad because he's better.

"His equipment was too good. Probably had a cheat car. Either that or
dumbed down racing."

It's the MINOR LEAGUES. How hard is this to understand? Get a grip. Find
some logic. Sorry to be rude, but you've been ridiculous ALL YEAR LONG
on this. You're a new fan of Regan Smith cause he had a good Nationwide
season but you refuse to acknowledge Chase Elliott being good. Analyze
yourself.


  189.   racefangurl posted:
  11.11.2014 - 9:11 am
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When I was 21, NASCAR 2011 started and I had my first favorite drivers
starting in the spring months: Trevor Bayne and Joey Logano. From that
May to this year, I added the ones from Truex, Jr. down. I learned
Danica Patrick's name from a magazine when I was a bit younger, but the
others that weren't in NASCAR in 2000, I learned their names that year.
I hadn't been able to watch NASCAR since 2000, so I knew very few names.
I had learned some through magazines, as my family has gotten a magazine
that covers many topics from culture, which means they sometimes mention
sports figures. Some of the ones in that magazine I don't care about,
though. There was a reference to Danica Patrick in a joke about the Indy
500, I was 15 or 16 I think when this was. They gave Kurt Busch a
mention in a negative way in 2004, gave him thumbs down it seems. They
also mentioned Jimmie Johnson and Kelly Sutton when I was in high
school. They had this section called "It's my Drive" at the time and
that's how these drivers got in the magazine. Spring 2011 showed me I
can cry over my favorites, since I cried a little when Trevor was sick.
This makes able to like drivers only if they were around in 2011.
Otherwise I don't care about them because of how it is now with Trevor.
Ask me about his future and I'll dump a bucket of sunshine and rainbow
on your head. I believe he can a lead a normal life with MS, since he
said people can and he believes he can be one. As a fan, I feel I should
think positive about him because I can and I think he wants us fans to
do that.


  190.   racefangurl posted:
  11.11.2014 - 9:43 am
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The reason I refuse to acknowledge Chase Elliott is nobody's really that
good as an 18 year old rookie.


  191.   Sarf52 posted:
  11.11.2014 - 12:39 pm
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I thought you were done with the Nationwide Series (soon to be xFinity)
boards racefangurl, stay true to your word and let some knowledgeable
fans have a good wholesome conversations and keep your irrational spew
to yourself, please.


  192.   Hinch77 posted:
  11.11.2014 - 12:55 pm
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"The reason I refuse to acknowledge Chase Elliott is nobody's really
that good as an 18 year old rookie. "

You went full retard there man. NEVER go full retard.


  193.   racefangurl posted:
  11.11.2014 - 1:11 pm
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Hinch77 did a satire of me. I'm done with the Nationwide/Xfinity series
when the checkered flag falls at Homestead. I'm gonna post a farewell to
these Nationwide/Xfinity boards right after that race. Yeah, I got it
all planned.


  194.   The Long Shot posted:
  11.11.2014 - 1:21 pm
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"The reason I refuse to acknowledge Chase Elliott is nobody's really
that good as an 18 year old rookie."

And yet he was. You do not seem to be able to comprehend this.

"Hinch77 did a satire of me. I'm done with the Nationwide/Xfinity series
when the checkered flag falls at Homestead. I'm gonna post a farewell to
these Nationwide/Xfinity boards right after that race. Yeah, I got it
all planned."

You're going to post a farewell after only being on these boards for a
few months? Presumptuous, no?

We welcome you to comment on these boards when you have something
intelligent to contribute. Until then, I'd advise you to keep quiet.


  195.   racefangurl posted:
  11.11.2014 - 1:37 pm
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Maybe I'd rather comment on just the Cup and driver boards, maybe
Trucks. If there's any Truck races on FOX next year I'd comment on those
boards. I'm not leaving the site, just the Nationwide/Xfinity boards.


  196.   racefangurl posted:
  11.11.2014 - 3:02 pm
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I left Chase Elliott's board over a month ago. I may comment there
another year if I feel the urge, but not anymore this year.


  197.   Hinch77 posted:
  11.11.2014 - 3:55 pm
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And somehow this dumbass still can't figure out that (a) I didn't write
that satire post, and (b) that The Long Shot has three times admitted to
writing that satire post. Not that she speaks English or anything.

"You're going to post a farewell after only being on these boards for a
few months? Presumptuous, no?"

Uuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....


  198.   racefangurl posted:
  11.11.2014 - 4:02 pm
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Ok, it was The Long Shot. brain fart.


  199.   Watto posted:
  11.11.2014 - 4:39 pm
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You know who was that good as an 18 year old Nationwide rookie? Joey
Logano. He didn't even do a full schedule. The thing is that age really
doesn't matter if they're someone who has been racing for a few years
already. Chase Elliott did a lot of late model racing as a teenager. He
adjusted to Nationwide quicker than people expected, but it wasn't a
surprise that he would adjust. Rookies aren't always that good, and it
doesn't matter their age. Some rookies, however, stand out from the
rest. Age is completely irrelevant. Chase Elliott didn't start racing
late models at 17. He's been racing for most of his life.


  200.   racefangurl posted:
  11.11.2014 - 5:19 pm
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Is Chase Elliott another Joey Logano, in a sense? Joey never ran a full
Nationwide season, but he won a race in the series at 18 was all I knew.
I wasn't able to watch NASCAR in 2008, no FOX at home then or cable TV
and the nearest NBC's about 60 miles away. In 2011, FOX was available to
me at home. No more irrationality about Chase. I won't give up on the
Nationwide/Xfinity series or avoid Chase's board. Watto and Joey made it
happen


  201.   The Long Shot posted:
  11.11.2014 - 5:34 pm
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Lol, I just realized the hypocrisy of that statement. Never mind.

"Is Chase Elliott another Joey Logano, in a sense? Joey never ran a full
Nationwide season, but he won a race in the series at 18 was all I knew.
I wasn't able to watch NASCAR in 2008, no FOX at home then or cable TV
and the nearest NBC's about 60 miles away. In 2011, FOX was available to
me at home. No more irrationality about Chase. I won't give up on the
Nationwide/Xfinity series or avoid Chase's board. Watto and Joey made it
happen"

I guess that works. But yeah, I really could see the Logano comparison
with Elliott.


  202.   joey2448 posted:
  11.11.2014 - 11:23 pm
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racefangurl, if you're unhappy that an 18-year-old rookie won the
Nationwide title, you should direct your complaints toward NASCAR and
the Cup regulars dominating the series. That's why it's so watered down,
or dumbed down in your words. The Cup regulars are crushing the
competition, and the small shoe-string budget operations are barely
treading water. And all the hidden talents are unable to prove that they
can win races and be competitive because the powerhouse teams continue
to keep running Cup guys, and aren't giving the up-and-comers a chance
to prove themselves in good equipment.


  203.   racefangurl posted:
  11.12.2014 - 9:09 am
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Someone said it's the sponsors. Sponsors the powerhouse teams get want
Cup drivers over the new guys. Maybe they should find more local
sponsors was an idea that came up in that discussion. Elliott Sadler and
Regan Smith were Cup drivers and are sponsored. Austin Dillon was
sponsored as a regular, but he ran in some Cup races. Trevor Bayne was
fully sponsored this year and he's had that part-time Cup ride with the
Wood Brothers. I know he's been the Nationwide best at times, like Dover
where he was 2nd to Kyle Busch. I remember other times he was top-5 with
just Cup drivers ahead of him. Chase Elliott's an exception, since he's
been strictly Nationwide this year and has NAPA sponsorship. Maybe it's
because he's Bill Elliott's kid. And yesterday I decided to feel happy a
rare talent won the title because as I said what Watto said about Joey
Logano showed me rookies can be that good. Watto said something about
how I could feel happy a rare talent won the title, btw Congrats Chase!
My new and improved favorite list: 1. Trevor Bayne 2. Joey Logano 3.
Martin Truex, Jr., Landon Cassill 4. Austin Dillon 5. Cole Whitt,
Jeffrey Earnhardt, Ty Dillon, Ryan Truex, Regan Smith, Chase Elliott 6.
Steve Park, Dale Earnhardt, Jr., Danica Patrick, Justin Allgaier,
Michael McDowell Trevor's a special person, so he's my favorite and
always will be.


  204.   racefangurl posted:
  11.12.2014 - 2:13 pm
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There's a part of my heart that still wishes Trevor Bayne would win or
be the best Nationwide driver in his last race as a series regular, but
the rest of me thinks that's a Chase put-down, even if I like Trevor
more. I wish Chase no ill in this week's race, though.


  205.   racefangurl posted:
  11.12.2014 - 10:52 pm
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I've realized the error of my ways. I was stupid to think that way about
Chase. I'm ashamed of who I was. "Is anybody else as excited as I am
about the prospect of how good Sprint Cup will be in a few years will
all these skilled young drivers coming up the ranks. I can't wait. We
might see our best racing in years." To answer the question,
me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't wait for 2015 and beyond!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm
so ready for the future of NASCAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just totally pumped.
Btw, Dylan Kwasniewski was sponsored as well.


  206.   racefangurl posted:
  11.13.2014 - 12:44 pm
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I still don't know if I wanna be on these boards next year. I might just
complain about how dumbed down it is because of Cup drivers a lot with
some little tidbits about my secondary drivers. I'll be here next year
if you can handle complaints about the Cup drivers in the series, but
otherwise, I'll stay on the other boards. I won't be irrational about
Chase, so I won't be as bad I guess.


  207.   racefangurl posted:
  11.13.2014 - 1:07 pm
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Even if this series is dumbed down because of Cup presence, the best
Nationwide driver was the one that deserved to win the title and did.


  208.   racefangurl posted:
  11.13.2014 - 5:00 pm
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I won't do that farewell post to this section of these boards. It was
going to say something about a P6 penalty and Chase, but I gave up the
pie girl attitude.


  209.   racefangurl posted:
  11.13.2014 - 5:19 pm
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Ok, enough repentance. Have I paid back for all I did? I hope I can
redeem myself. Give me a chance at Homestead race time and see how
different I am now, without the pie attitude.


  210.   racefangurl posted:
  11.14.2014 - 3:27 pm
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I'm reset now I guess.


  211.   Nascar Lead Lap Points posted:
  08.06.2015 - 5:04 pm
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Owneer Update
#77 Bob Newberry


  212.   Ryan posted:
  05.30.2016 - 5:17 pm
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Wow, I'm hardly a Kyle Busch fan but he was coming out of 4 when a very
unnecessary caution came out and he somehow lost to Brad Keselowski, who
plain outdrove him on the final lap and stole the win.

It really, really should have been Kyle's win here.


  213.   Anonymous posted:
  07.03.2016 - 11:27 pm
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With the Chase now include Xfinity and Trucks. This will likely be the
last time ever a driver among the top 3 series clinches the championship
before the finale.


  214.   Anonymous posted:
  07.04.2016 - 12:54 am
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Good, having a championship clinched before the last race makes the last
race pointless anyway


  215.   Dennyfan05 posted:
  06.21.2020 - 1:46 am
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Trevor Bayne scores his 9th 9th place finish of the season.


  216.   Rich posted:
  08.31.2020 - 11:32 am
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Allen Bestwick, Andy Petree and Dale Jarrett were the commentators. Dr.
Jerry Punch, Jamie Little, Dave Burns and Vince Welch were the pit road
reporters. Nicole Briscoe, Rusty Wallace and Brad Daugherty were in the
ESPN pit studio.


  217.   Gabriel posted:
  11.09.2020 - 3:38 pm
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Imagine telling people in 2014 that 6 years later that Chase Elliott
would win a title in Cup. I don't think any would have believed you.


  218.   RaceFanX posted:
  11.09.2020 - 4:20 pm
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@217
I think more would have believed you than you'd think. Elliott was a hot
shoe who was already gaining a reputation as a Cup-bound rising star and
one to watch in the years to come in this era.


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