|| *Comments on the 2011 UNOH 225:* View the most recent comment <#56> | Post a comment <#post> 1. Anonymous posted: 07.07.2011 - 10:51 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Ok, so what the heck was Ron Hornaday thinking? He wrecked an additional 3 trucks because he's an idiot. It's called a brake, Hornaday, it's right there next to the gas pedal. I feel bad for the rookies he wrecked, a veteran should know better. Also, what was the deal with Dillon? He stayed up in the racing groove about a lap and a half longer than he should have with little visibility. Trucks had to dodge him. That should have been a black flag right away, but you know Dillon was just trying to get a caution to come out. Glad that NASCAR called his bluff. There were a lot more bonehead moves in this race, guys going 3-wide without enough room, running too close together and taking the air off of someone's bumper causing them to spin. Why not just hand the race to Busch? Granted, he did just flat out school everyone on those final couple restarts, but they could at least TRY to make it hard for him. You can't beat him racing like an idiot. 2. TLarson83 posted: 07.07.2011 - 10:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) wow, kyle busch won another truck race against less funded racers, big frickin deal. yawwwwn. 3. Kyle Busch posted: 07.07.2011 - 10:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "wow, kyle busch won another truck race against less funded racers, big frickin deal. yawwwwn." How about you cry some more about it? I feed on the tears of losers and whiny nobodies. 4. 00andJoe posted: 07.07.2011 - 10:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The difference is that Kyle Busch didn't have the dominant truck - by all rights he should have lost. His competition (Dillon, then Coulter, then Piquet) just wrapped the win up with a nice bow on top and gave it to him... #10 sponsor: Mark One Electric 5. Eric posted: 07.07.2011 - 11:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Of Course Kyle Busch wins again. If that caution with the 99 and 32 ddn't make a caution Joey Coulter maybe could have one 6. RCRandPenskeGuy posted: 07.07.2011 - 11:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Good to see some familiar Truck-only drivers finish up front. 7. V12 Matra posted: 07.07.2011 - 11:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 99 should have been penalised just like Hamlin was a few years back at Richmond, as soon as the yellow came out he drove away from the scene and into the pits. It just gets really dull watching Kyle, Bowyer ect winning in this series all the time. 8. 18fan posted: 07.07.2011 - 11:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The comedy of errors that handed Kyle the win was astounding. First Nelson Piquet Jr(who probably had the only truck that could run with Johnny Sauter)overshot his pit and lost a bunch of time. Then Sauter broke an axle leaving the pits with the race won. Then Austin Dillon was closing fast on Kyle when his hood pins sheered and the hood came loose. After that, Joey Coulter was running Kyle down when a caution came out and then missed a shift on the restart, which allowed Piquet to end up 3 wide with Coulter and Miguel Paludo and the two Brazilians crashed and Coulter dropped way back. Then Kyle smoked everybody on the restart and held off Parker Kligerman to win. I expect at least one of Coulter, Whitt, Piquet, and Kligerman to win this year. Piquet probably has the best equipment of the four but he also makes the most mistakes of the four. Earlier in the year I would've said Whitt would be the first rookie to win but now it looks like it will be Coulter. Josh Richards, in his truck debut, passed before the start finish line twice but was only penalized the second time and was taken out in the aftermath of the Ron Hornaday/Cole Whitt crash. Piquet had his career best start and really seems to have the intermediate tracks figured out. Brendan Gaughan has his first top 5 of the year in third. Kligerman had his second straight runner up finish. Todd Bodine has his second top 5 in the last 3 races and 3rd of the year. Jason White gets his first top 5 of the year and first since last fall at Martinsville. 9. 12345Dude posted: 07.07.2011 - 11:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I know a lot of people are going to be like "oh great Kyle Busch won again". But he did not have a winning truck. He didn't have a top 5 truck. Amazing race. I'm shocked Kyle won. Also don't give Coulter too much credit. He has the best equipment in the trucks. This is what I expected him to do all season. This is also a reason I'm not blown over by Ty Dillion's ARCA run. 10. 18fan posted: 07.07.2011 - 11:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The equipment is why Coulter will be the first rookie winner this year. 11. potatosalad48 posted: 07.07.2011 - 11:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) When the yellow came out with 9 to go, it pretty much gift-wrapped the win for Kyle. And how unusual that Austin Dillon's hood flies up when he is catching the leader. Definately a WTF moment. 12. 12345Dude posted: 07.07.2011 - 11:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That's also why I think Austin Dillion is overated. But that's another topic for another time. Also by far the stupidest decision of the year was not putting Buescher in the 32 when he missed that race. He would be like 2 points behing Sauter. Instead Sauter is going to dominate the season for the title. 13. irony posted: 07.07.2011 - 11:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) One way to be sure you don't switch lanes before the s/f line is to be in two different lanes to begin with. Sauter probably won the title tonight. He has the dominant truck and the only way his competitors are going to beat him is to capitalize when he has problems, but instead they want to "win" 3rd place halfway through the race. Something about JS reminds me of another driver, I just can't place it. 14. Eric posted: 07.07.2011 - 11:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If James Buescher made the Race at Phoenix and didn't have a 35th place finish at Martinsville . He most likely Would be The Points Leader Last Year Matt Crafton was the driver getting Top 10 Finishes. But Now He Cant get a top 20 Finish 15. Iceman posted: 07.07.2011 - 11:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Somebody please tell me why Ron Hornaday is still allowed to drive a race car or truck. That was a boneheaded move when he wrecked and took Cole Whitt out also. He is a IDIOT and needs to retire,go home play with his grandkids. 16. JP88 posted: 07.07.2011 - 11:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wow Kyle Busch is so damn lucky...ridiculous like he needs it. *Piquet screwed up = was ahead of Kyle *Sauter breaks an axle = was ahead of Kyle *Dillon's hood flies off = was catching Kyle *Caution comes out = Coulter was beating Busch and was about to pass him I mean come on, does he really need that luck...it's just like the Dega NW race. 17. irony posted: 07.07.2011 - 11:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "He is a IDIOT" Oh the irony. 18. 18fan posted: 07.08.2011 - 12:34 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) It was refreshing to see the Truck regulars take it to Kyle Busch for a while. Too bad they all faltered. Maybe this is the start of the end of Kyle's dominance of this series. 19. RCRandPenskeGuy posted: 07.08.2011 - 1:01 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) It certainly seems that way. We have been seeing less and less Cup drivers running the lower series (even the almighty Carl Edwards skipped the Road America NW race) which has allowed the series regulars to even the ground a little bit against them. Not by much, but it's a start. 20. 00andJoe posted: 07.08.2011 - 1:10 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Apparently, barring sponsorship, both the #20 and #30 are going to start skipping races now. 21. AlmirolaFan88 posted: 07.08.2011 - 1:13 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I didn't watch this race because I wasn't home....but I kinda wish I did just to see how badly everyone epic failed. Just makes the series look bad when 3 guys have winning trucks and still hand the race to a Cup guy. Had things gone right for Johnny Sauter the past 2 races, he could have had a 50+ point lead.....on 2nd place. Looks like Johnny Chapman finished this race. Parker Kligerman 5th in points with an underfunded truck puts a smile on my face. For petes sake they run Dodges. Kudos for Brad Keselowski Racing for showing up at every race. I hope he gets a sponsor to run the #22 Nationwide car next season once Brad steps out of it. He's truly one of the top NASCAR prospects, but the Cole Whitt hype stole alot of attention away from him. 22. dirtbag posted: 07.08.2011 - 1:25 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Note to Austin Dillon and Joey Coulter: Karma is a b****, aint it? Signed, Kyle Busch 23. Nick posted: 07.08.2011 - 2:15 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Not much to add to what has already been said... most everyone that could have beat Kyle tonight looked like a bunch of monkeys f'ing a football. Hornaday tries to bully Whitt out of the way and ends up taking out 4 trucks (or was it more) in the process... didn't he get on to Dillon for doing this at the same race last year? Sure Whitt could have lifted but I guess I wouldn't have either seeing as 2 turns in a row, Hornaday was driving over his aging head. Even he knew he was asking more of his truck than he should have and ends up copping out the blame to "Whitt just sucked me around", well, I guess he had no choice as you drove him up only about 4 lanes. Whoever wins the title this year will be the person who can basically be the most consistent. Some years you have guys with tons of top 5's and 10's, this year it'll be a survival year with few top 5's and 10's to the eventual winner. I just wish Kryle wouldn't have won as this just adds to his "total win hype crap", wake me up when he gets 100 wins in the premier league, until then, he's a good AA and AAA racer. /rant 24. Anonymous posted: 07.08.2011 - 2:21 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I tickets for all three events for the Atlanta weekend, but I wish I had passed on the truck tickets. The truck series is an absolute joke right now. Kyle Busch is going to have 100 truck wins without a single top 10 finish in the points. It's stupid. Who cares if someone threw 1000 TD passes in a single NFL season if he never gets a ring? 25. Nick posted: 07.08.2011 - 2:32 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Anon- I guess Kyle loves to race, which is fine and dandy. But I hate it when the media is like, oh this is Kyle's 10000'th win in Nascar, he has 5000 in the CTS series, and 4970 in NW, and 30 in Cup, he is the greatest EVA! Ok that is an exaggeration but you get my point. lol 26. Ivan Balakhonov posted: 07.08.2011 - 3:20 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @Anonymous [post #21] Definitely you haven't watch the race. That's all I can say. What is absolute joke is amount of posters like you who are not able to observe the positive changes in Truck Series. Comparing with two last seasons quality of racing improved greatly and right now to my opinion it's the best of three premier NASCAR series in terms of excitement. 27. AJ posted: 07.08.2011 - 7:45 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) To steal a line from Kyle's BFF Kevin Harvick, he definitely had a golden horseshore stuck up his ass last night. Did he have a decent truck? Yeah, but not a race winning truck, and it was almost surreal to watch everything that happened to hand him the win. And spare a thought for Miguel Paludo, who was in the top 10 and thoroughly outrunning his teammate Timothy Peters until getting turned by his fellow Brazilian. 28. Karn Evil 9 posted: 07.08.2011 - 8:43 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I completely forgot there was a Truck race on last night. After looking at the results, I'm glad that I completely forgot there was a Truck race on. 29. cjs3872 posted: 07.08.2011 - 9:28 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well, I think that this race is proof that you can win driving a conservative race, because that was about as conservative a race as Kyle Busch has driven. He didn't have the best truck, but when he got near the front, he drove smartly and conservatively and watched eveyone that could've beaten him fall by the wayside, one by one, either through the timing of cautions (one of which put Busch in front, another of which prevented Joey Coulter from passing him when he had an obviously faster truck), stupid driving (as was the case in Hornaday's incident), lack of experience (Piquet's overshooting of his pits), making carless mistakes (Sauter's breaking an axle leaving the pits), or fluky things happeneing (Dillon's hood flying up as a result of hitting one of bumps, or should I say moguls, wrong, because hitting the big bump by the start-finish line actually was what caused the hood pin on the far right to come disengaged, then the air pressure from the 180 MPH speeds allowing air to get under the hood caused the others to go, causing his hood to fly up to the windshield, blinding him). As the saying goes "when it's your night, it's your night", and Kyle Busch's win seemed set in stone, not because of how hard he drove, but how conservatively and smart he drove. 30. Jim posted: 07.08.2011 - 10:42 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) J.J.Cobb, I'm sure you were good at your local track back in the day, but please give it up. I pull for you every week, Maybe ARCA ? 31. Anonymous posted: 07.08.2011 - 11:57 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Did he have a decent truck? Yeah, but not a race winning truck, and it was almost surreal to watch everything that happened to hand him the win. " I see a lot of people saying Busch got handed the win. So we're operating under the assumption now that Johnny Sauter (3 Truck wins), and Austin Dillon (2 Truck wins) were guaranteed to be able to outrace Kyle Busch (29 Truck wins) if they hadn't had any problems? That seems ridiculous to me. I don't care if they had better Trucks, to just assume they would have beaten Kyle Busch is dumb. You don't know how the race would have played out differently. Maybe we should just assume Joey Coulter (0 wins) would have beaten him had he known how to shift properly too! "The truck series is an absolute joke right now. Kyle Busch is going to have 100 truck wins without a single top 10 finish in the points. It's stupid. Who cares if someone threw 1000 TD passes in a single NFL season if he never gets a ring? " So I guess Owner's Championships don't count now? Because he already has one, in his own Truck, and he's working on another. 32. 00andJoe posted: 07.08.2011 - 12:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Karn Evil 9 - And that (to paraphrase Yoda) is why results you should not use to gauge a race. "Yawn - Kyle Busch won - Yawn" is NOT how this race turned out. 33. Dodge posted: 07.08.2011 - 1:19 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Was so hoping that Kligerman was going to pull it off. As for the #'s 20 and 30 skipping races. The 30 is planning on not racing if they don't have sponsorship unless they feel like they can win. As for the 20, I think they may only have 1 truck in their shop and it got wrecked. Not a good replay but it looked like that talentless moron, Justin Marks, wrecked her. She said something about the team was busy repairing the truck after the Texas race. As for the person that said that Turner Motorsports should of put Buescher in the 32 at Phoenix when he DNQ'ed, Brad Sweet has potential as a NASCAR driver so I think they should of lifted Carmichael for him instead. And finally, I find it absolutely weird that usually when you wreck and take out several other cars/trucks like Hornaday did, the announcers usually say that is when you are supposed to hold the brake and not let it roll but since it is the almighty Hornaday, nobody says a word about it! 34. DaleSrFanForever posted: 07.08.2011 - 2:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It's my fault. I only tuned in with about 30 laps to go (I didn't know it was on, SPEED continues its excellent promotion). That's when everything went to hell. I was this race's bad luck charm. Funny story: When Austin was catching Kyle for the race lead, as they went onto the front straightaway I said "alright Austin, you are in the black #3 car, are you gonna lay the bumper to Kyle?" As I was saying it I noticed his hood starting to flap. As soon as I finished my statement his hood flew up. When this happened, a thought occurred to me: When we see a car (or in this case a truck) with that particular stylized slanted #3 on it, it is like an embodiment of Dale. He turned that design into an icon. When the hood completely covered the windshield, it looked like Dale was covering his eyes. Like he didn't want to watch the number he made famous have an epic fail in a bid for the win, which is probably what would have happened. Kyle was the only Cup guy in this field. The only one. How was he able to bring himself to smile in victory lane? Does he really feel accomplished by this? I sure hope not. 35. Anonymous posted: 07.08.2011 - 2:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Kyle was the only Cup guy in this field. The only one. How was he able to bring himself to smile in victory lane? Does he really feel accomplished by this? I sure hope not." How many have been in Cup before? How many will be in Cup in the future? How many deserve to be in Cup but never had the chance? Who really cares? It's a race, and he won it. But go ahead and keep whining about it. 36. PJ1989 posted: 07.08.2011 - 3:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The only thing more annoying than Kyle Busch winning these races, is the people that constantly complain about him winning these races. Get a life. 37. beau posted: 07.08.2011 - 3:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #3 sensitive much? 38. Talon64 posted: 07.08.2011 - 3:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I see a lot of people saying Busch got handed the win. So we're operating under the assumption now that Johnny Sauter (3 Truck wins), and Austin Dillon (2 Truck wins) were guaranteed to be able to outrace Kyle Busch (29 Truck wins) if they hadn't had any problems? That seems ridiculous to me. I don't care if they had better Trucks, to just assume they would have beaten Kyle Busch is dumb. You don't know how the race would have played out differently." um Austin Dillon had ALREADY blown by Kyle Busch during the long green flag run before the last set of pit stops. Same with Johnny Sauter, Kyle had already shown he didn't have anythign for them. Or Nelson Piquet Jr. who blew by him like he was standing still. Kyle admitted it himself that Austin and Coulter probably would've passed him if Austin hadn't had his issues and the caution hadn't come out. Speaking of the caution, f**k Charlie Vest for purposely bringing it out. Sure, Arpin ended up spinning and that would've brought out the caution anyways but it went yellow JUST before Arpin's spin so Vest was the one that brought it out. But Arpin all but proved that Vest could've gotten going at any time since he so conviently got going when he was about to get hit by Arpin. Between that, the caution during the first set of green flag pit stops that screwed a bunch of fast Trucks out of track position and helped Kyle take the lead, then Sauter's issues, then Piquet's bad pit stop, then Austin's hood, then Coulter's screw up on the restart, that causing Piquet Jr. to wreck leaving none of the Trucks that SHOULD'VE beat Kyle up there for Kyle to deal with on the final restart... one of the more infuriating races I've watched. But this was a HUGE gift for Kligerman and Buescher, all of a sudden they're in the middle of the title fight. The fact Buescher's in it at all is freaking amazing given he's practically 2 races behind everyone else with his DNQ and 35th place finish. 39. Talon64 posted: 07.08.2011 - 3:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle gets his 29th Truck Series win. Kligerman was the highest finishing rookie after posting his 2nd consecutive runner-up finish, his only top 5's in 11 career Truck starts. It's his 3rd top 10 in the last 4 races, going from 13th to 5th in the standings in that stretch. Brendan Gaughan gets his best finish of the season in 3rd, his first top 5 but his 4th top 10 in the last 7 races; he still has yet to post back-to-back top 10's. Todd Bodine gets just his 3rd top 10 of the season, but they're all top 5 finishes and two have come in the last 3 races. Bodine's streak of 160 straight starts in the Trucks will likely come to an end since the #30 doesn't have sponsorship to race at Iowa. Jason White gets just his 6th career top 5 in 114 Truck starts, his first of the season and the first for owner and lottery winner Joe Dennette. Elliott Sadler gets his 3rd top 10 in 4 Truck Series starts this season. Joey Coulter gets his 3rd consecutive top 10 finish, joining Cole Whitt as the only rookies to do so, so far this season. It's his 4th top 10 in the last 5 races, and he's gone from 21st to 9th in the standings in that stretch. David Starr gets just his 3rd top 10 of the season and first in 5 races, tying his best finish of the season in 8th. Travis Kvapil ties his best finish of the season in 10th, just his 2nd top 10 of the season but both coming in the last 3 races. He's cracked the top 20 in points for the first time this season. Max Papis only has 1 top 10 this season, but 6 top 15's. Steve Arpin finishes 12th in his 2nd career Truck Series start. Johnny Sauter won his 4th career Truck Series pole, 2nd of the season. 40. cjs3872 posted: 07.08.2011 - 3:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well, the drivers that had a chance to beat Kyle Busch fell by the wayside in such way, that it felt like it was a "10 Little Indians" scenario. 41. Talon64 posted: 07.08.2011 - 3:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "How many have been in Cup before? How many will be in Cup in the future? How many deserve to be in Cup but never had the chance? Who really cares? It's a race, and he won it. But go ahead and keep whining about it." are you the same Anonymous that's always ragging on DSFF and guys complaining about Cup guys in lower series. If so, the only one whining is you about other people's opinions. 42. Rusty posted: 07.08.2011 - 4:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I don't think any of the guys in this field except maybe Kligerman if Penske sticks with him have a future in Cup. The truck series is really watered down. Kyle's success isn't really that impressive to me. 43. AlmirolaFan88 posted: 07.08.2011 - 5:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "So we're operating under the assumption now that Johnny Sauter (3 Truck wins), and Austin Dillon (2 Truck wins) were guaranteed to be able to outrace Kyle Busch (29 Truck wins) if they hadn't had any problems? That seems ridiculous to me. I don't care if they had better Trucks, to just assume they would have beaten Kyle Busch is dumb." Isn't that exactly what Johnny Sauter did at Martinsville? 44. Dodge posted: 07.08.2011 - 6:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The thing I didn't understand happened with the last restart was when Kyle came down and almost sideswipped the 23. I know that he didn't pull all the way down but to me, that is changing lanes BEFORE sthe start/finish line, it looked like. 45. Talon64 posted: 07.08.2011 - 6:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) As long as you're still side-by-side with someone I suppose you're technically in your lane. Parker Kligerman's the first Truck Series rookie with back-to-back top 2 finishes since Carl Edwards in 2003. 46. Anonymous posted: 07.08.2011 - 6:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "are you the same Anonymous that's always ragging on DSFF and guys complaining about Cup guys in lower series. If so, the only one whining is you about other people's opinions." WTF are you talking about? Let's see, so all the people that say- "yawn, boring race", "Busch wins again, he sucks and shouldn't be here", and "i hate Cup drivers in this series" - that's not whining to you. But someone who points out the stupidity and futility of their complaints, that's whining? It's called a dictionary. Invest in one. 47. dirtbag posted: 07.08.2011 - 7:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Isn't that exactly what Johnny Sauter did at Martinsville?" I think what he's trying to say is you never know how a race is going to play out, so handing a win to drivers who have rarely proven an ability to win with regularity, when there were still dozens of laps left, is a bit premature. It's like all the people that say, "David Ragan had the Daytona 500 won until he made that mistake". Ragan isn't a driver you just assume would win a race, even if he was in the lead with 10 to go. Busch was better on the first few laps after a restart. Other trucks might have crashed setting up multiple G-W-C finishes anyway, and Busch would have had the edge there. It's not saying that Johnny Sauter or Austin Dillon definitely wouldn't win even if they didn't have problems, it's just saying that it's premature to hand Sauter, Dillon, and Coulter, drivers with a collective 5 Truck wins (the same number Busch has this year) the victory just because they were ahead and had a faster Truck on long runs. Because if Busch has shown one thing in his career, it's an ability to steal these wins on a regular basis, even when he doesn't have the fastest car or truck. That's just being sensible, and taking into account the facts. 48. DaleSrFanForever posted: 07.08.2011 - 8:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I appreciate the support, but don't worry about the Anonymous guy. He is just a standard internet troll, not looking for discussion, just to start flame wars. Ignore him. 49. Frank posted: 07.08.2011 - 8:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Very very good race. Glad that 13 had another bad day and don't think he will have no contention for title. But too many mistakes for his challengers, especially Dillon who is for sure overrated. Rusty, @43 Cole Whitt definitely will have. And you are wrong - Truck series is resurrecting. DSFF, @34 It's strange that you need promotion - SPEED broadcasts Truck series live for years and starting time for night races is quite the same. 50. cjs3872 posted: 07.08.2011 - 11:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) What mistake did Dillon make, because he sure didn't make one in this race to me. I think you're confusing this race with the one at Texas, Frank, when he made a huge mistake with, by far, the fastest truck in the race. His hood came up because of the moguls on the track, meaning that he was driving blind. Sure, he may have been in the racing groove a little too long, but he was being careful not to cause an accident by moving out of the racing line too quickly and into someone else. Instead, he took his time, hoping that the hood might come off and cause a caution, though it really would not have made a difference for him, since he would have been uncompetitve anyway, but once the black flag came out for him, he cautiously moved to the inside and came into the pits and had the hood removed. Sometimes I wonder what some of the people that post here expect to see the drivers do in such situations, because what Dillon did was, in my mind, by the book. I don't like to be critical, but sometimes I wonder if people are actually watching what they're posting about, because, at times, it certainly doesn't look or seem like it. 51. cjs3872 posted: 07.09.2011 - 12:10 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Rusty (#42), as far as Kligerman goes, to my knowledge, only two drivers were ever really successful in both ARCA and NASCAR's top series, and those two were Benny Parsons and Davey Allison. (Kligerman won nine ARCA races two or three years ago.) Not to say he won't, but Scott Speed actually won a Truck series race at Dover in 2008 or '09, I believe, and now he's currently out of the sport, and he nearly won the ARCA championship one year (he may have and probably would have if Ricky Stenhouse, Jr. hadn't intentionally wrecked him in the season finale that year). Justin Lofton beat out Kligerman for the ARCA championship and he hasn't gotten anywhere either. The plain truth is that very few drivers have been successful in either ARCA, Trucks, or the NNS series and have been successful in Cup, simply because it takes a completely different attitude to succeed in the Cup series' longer races. No driver has ever won both the Truck championship with a Cup title, Bobby Labonte is the only driver to win titles in both Nationwide and Cup (and I wouldn't count it if Kyle Busch, Carl Edwards, Clint bowyer, or Brad Keselowski did, but I would count it if Kevin Harvick did, because of his 2001 Nationwide/Busch Series title), and only Benny Parsons ever won titles in both ARCA and Cup. 52. Frank posted: 07.09.2011 - 9:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) cjs3872, speaking "mistakes by challengers" I mean by driver+team. But you got it. I don't like Dillon. Kligerman won 9 of 21 ARCA races in 09, Speed won Truck race at Dover in 08. The reason why we have just a couple cases of driver won both NNS and Cup title is that good driver in NNS has been moved to Cup before he gets capable team to win NNS title. NNS & Trucks have enough "core" teams and drivers to compete for championship year for year and beat young talents. 53. 18fan posted: 07.14.2011 - 10:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Todd Bodine will drive the 5 truck at least at Iowa and maybe the rest of the year in a joint effort bewteen RMM and Germain. I heard that they will use Germain's trucks, Mike Hillman Jr. as crew chief, and the Germain pit crew. 54. Nascar Lead Lap Points posted: 04.25.2014 - 1:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Withdrew 92 Clay Rogers BTS Tire & Wheel/ Fleet HQ Ricky Benton 11 Chevrolet 55. ii posted: 03.27.2015 - 11:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Clay didn't withdraw, he finished 17th in this race in the #92 truck. 56. 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