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  1.   Schroeder51 posted:
  04.14.2013 - 12:39 pm
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Two poles in three races already for Jeb Burton.


  2.   Paul posted:
  04.14.2013 - 1:04 pm
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Turner trucks sweep the top four positions, with rookie Jeb Burton
winning his 2nd career pole. Kyle Larson and Chase Elliott start from
3rd and 4th, respectively, and both of them won a practice session this
weekend. Like last year, this could be a Turner-dominated race once
again based on how fast they've been this weekend.

Tyler Reddick, who gained a lot of notoriety last year when he got into
Brett Moffitt on the final lap of the K&N Pro Series East finale at
Rockingham en route to his first NASCAR win, will start from the 13th
position, driving what I believe is a 4th ThorSport truck.

Ryan Sieg qualified an unsponsored truck in 12th place, his best
starting position since Las Vegas in fall 2010. He can definitely be a
contender in this series if he had some funding behind him, having two
top tens in as many races this season.

Not sure what, if anything, happened to Erik Jones on his qualifying
lap, but he'll have to start from dead last after a slow qualifying
time; the final truck to make the race on speed. I'm interested in
seeing if the 16-year old driver can methodically work his way through
traffic, keep the nose clean and tires fresh, and get a top ten finish
in just his 2nd career Truck start at one of the toughest tracks on the
NASCAR circuit.


  3.   TeamPlayersBlue posted:
  04.14.2013 - 1:07 pm
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This is going to be one hell of a race. Really wish I could be there.


  4.   Alex posted:
  04.14.2013 - 1:20 pm
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I hope Sauter doesn't win again.


  5.   murb posted:
  04.14.2013 - 1:51 pm
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This is gonna be fun!!!!!!


  6.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
  04.14.2013 - 2:03 pm
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I had to miss the two Texas races, but I get to watch this one. I
wouldn't have it any other way.


  7.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
  04.14.2013 - 2:11 pm
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Mikey? Ugh. Oh well, its Rockingham. His knowledge of this place is only
how to spend a solid quarter century running like crap there.


  8.   We need more Onion posted:
  04.14.2013 - 2:17 pm
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I have a bad feeling about Todd, he didn't wreck in his last 3 races...


  9.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
  04.14.2013 - 2:19 pm
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Mikey sure is prepared today.


  10.   Schroeder51 posted:
  04.14.2013 - 2:21 pm
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Tyler Reddick spins out.


  11.   Jim Davis posted:
  04.14.2013 - 2:22 pm
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Why aren't the fans sitting in the front rows?


  12.   murb posted:
  04.14.2013 - 2:23 pm
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52 truck spins.

Somewhere stashed away in either my closet or in moving boxes, I have an
old 1:24 diecast of Schrader's 1995 AC-Delco 52 truck. So it's always
cool for me to see Schrader's 52 out there, even if he isn't driving it.


  13.   Paul posted:
  04.14.2013 - 2:24 pm
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Ty Dillon had an Earnhardt flashback, saw a Kenny Schrader-owned truck,
and spun him out.


  14.   We need more Onion posted:
  04.14.2013 - 2:25 pm
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@12 Probably you know, but Schrader will be in his truck at Eldora, will
be great to see him on dirt.


  15.   murb posted:
  04.14.2013 - 2:26 pm
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"@12 Probably you know, but Schrader will be in his truck at Eldora,
will be great to see him on dirt."

Yep, and he should be pretty strong. I seriously cannot wait for that
race. It's gonna be beyond awesome.


  16.   David posted:
  04.14.2013 - 2:29 pm
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"I seriously cannot wait for that race. It's gonna be beyond awesome."

Neither can I. I wish I was going, or that I could even watch it. The
format is awesome!!


  17.   Paul posted:
  04.14.2013 - 2:30 pm
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No driver has been as much of a media favorite before ever winning a
race than Kyle Larson.


  18.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
  04.14.2013 - 2:31 pm
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20 laps down and already two seconds off the pace. I LOVE IT!!!


  19.   18fan posted:
  04.14.2013 - 2:32 pm
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It took Michael Waltrip see Larson visually closing on Buescher before
he said that Larson was faster than Buescher.


  20.   murb posted:
  04.14.2013 - 2:32 pm
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"No driver has been as much of a media favorite before ever winning a
race than Kyle Larson."

In my time watching the sport, I've seen a lot of guys get hyped up
(like Casey Atwood and Joey Logano), but I really don't remember those
guys being as hyped up as Larson has been. It's like the "Logano =
Messiah" stuff from five years ago times a million.


  21.   Anonymous posted:
  04.14.2013 - 2:37 pm
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I know Larson has alot of talent but the hype is sickening


  22.   Kenny posted:
  04.14.2013 - 2:43 pm
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I'm watching this race I hope eather Ty jeb or chase win this one


  23.   Paul posted:
  04.14.2013 - 2:43 pm
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Sauter might have a right rear tire going down.


  24.   Schroeder51 posted:
  04.14.2013 - 2:50 pm
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Not even in the Truck can we escape cautions thrown for "boredom"...erm,
I'm sorry, I mean debris.


  25.   Schroeder51 posted:
  04.14.2013 - 2:50 pm
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*Trucks


  26.   We need more Onion posted:
  04.14.2013 - 2:50 pm
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Oh yeah! BS debris.


  27.   Paul posted:
  04.14.2013 - 2:52 pm
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Does anyone else notice that Mikey almost always addresses Phil Parsons
when he's talking, even if he's talking in response to something that
Rick Allen said?


  28.   Kenny posted:
  04.14.2013 - 2:54 pm
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After the pit stops Chase is 3rd and Ty is 4th sweet :D


  29.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
  04.14.2013 - 2:57 pm
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I have already noticed a ton of similarities between Larson and Logano.
Being given such good equipment so soon is not a good thing.


  30.   Kenny posted:
  04.14.2013 - 2:58 pm
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Why is that bad DSFF?


  31.   Paul posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:03 pm
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It's bad because they haven't been humbled by having to drive in
mediocre equipment. When you've never not been in great equipment, you
don't have the respect for teams and drivers that aren't in good
equipment that you would if you had to work your way up the ladder. The
Nationwide races at Dover and Homestead last year are prime examples of
Logano not having respect for the smaller teams, and I can see Larson
racing that way if he starts to believe in his own hype, which so far he
is.


  32.   Paul posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:04 pm
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"Nighty night." - Martin Truex, Jr. from that commercial.

That must be what he says to himself just before he loses the lead in a
race that he should have won.


  33.   MStall41 posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:05 pm
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A classic case of nostalgia whores overrating a track. The Rock is a
great track but it bugs me to no end when people act like the races here
are gonna be OMG GREATEST RACE EVER DUUURRR. Been a decent race so far
but its not much better than any of the other races on the truck schedule.


  34.   Kenny posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:07 pm
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Ah do Larson is turning in to a NASCAR drivers version of a spoiled
brat?(I don't have an issues with spoiled brats)


  35.   Paul posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:08 pm
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Speaking of young drivers with big heads that have never been in
mediocre equipment, Chase Elliott just knocked Norm Benning into the
wall on the straightaway. Punk.


  36.   murb posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:09 pm
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Caution for Norm Benning.


  37.   Paul posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:10 pm
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Sauter loses eight positions after a 21 second pit stop.


  38.   MStall41 posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:12 pm
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Norm is and always has been a roadblock


  39.   Kenny posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:14 pm
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I just learned this that last week was the first time that Rick Hendrick
felded a truck in the truck series funny hes won 3 truck titles with
jack spraige(sp)


  40.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:15 pm
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Its not that Larson is a brat, but to be successful in Cup, you have to
learn how to struggle. Even a "good" race in Cup is a grueling struggle.
When you are constantly in the best stuff as Larson is, as Logano was,
when you get to Cup your talents have not been tested and you look bad.
Only now, in his fifh year, is Logano starting to look like he belongs
in Cup, he has just now learned how to struggle.

On track, a rich kid wrecks a strugglers truck. It wasn't on purpose,
but this is a story I am getting sick of.


  41.   murb posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:17 pm
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"Speaking of young drivers with big heads that have never been in
mediocre equipment, Chase Elliott just knocked Norm Benning into the
wall on the straightaway. Punk."

It's hard to say whether or not Chase has a "big head". He's seemed a
lot more humble than Larson has. But at the same time, he's in the
Hendrick camp so he'll most likely turn into another Jimmie or Kasey
robot whiner.

"A classic case of nostalgia whores overrating a track."

A classic case of MStall41 coming on here and unnecessarily trashing us.
I don't mind that you have a different opinion, but why can't you be
logical and present it in a mature way? If you can't, then don't come on
and bash us and call us "nostalgia whores". Simple as that.


  42.   We need more Onion posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:17 pm
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Why did Chastain have to relinquish his truck to the douche?
Did he lose his sponsor or something?


  43.   TeamPlayersBlue posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:20 pm
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Crafton battling Larson for the lead.


  44.   murb posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:20 pm
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CRAFTON!!!!

I've missed both of his two career wins (at Charlotte in 2008 and Iowa
last year), so I'd love to finally see him take a victory.


  45.   TeamPlayersBlue posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:22 pm
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Post 33: A classic case of one of NASCAR's bootlicking fans. Never said
it was the greatest tracks, but it beats about 75% of tracks that are
currently on the Cup series schedule.


  46.   MStall41 posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:23 pm
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@murb, I wasn't targeting you or anyone on this board with that
statement. That was a blanket statement about NASCAR fans in general. I
get utterly sick of seeing fans overrate certain tracks just because
they are old school. The Rock is a fabulous track but all week everyone
and their mother has built this race up to be something way more
exciting than it ever was going to be. This race has been no better than
last nights race was IMO.


  47.   David posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:23 pm
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I've never liked Chase Elliott. I have no idea why. I don't dislike him.


  48.   Kenny posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:25 pm
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I like DP'S driving in that peak commercial


  49.   MStall41 posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:27 pm
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@TeamPlayersBlue So because I have a different opinion I'm suddenly a
NASCAR homer? Why is that always the default response to anyone who
happens to enjoy any of the new school aspects of NASCAR?


  50.   Jim Davis posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:28 pm
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"...but all week everyone and their mother has built this race up to be
something way more exciting than it ever was going to be."

I get the same vibes about the upcoming Eldora race.


  51.   TeamPlayersBlue posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:28 pm
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Please tell me, have we hyped this race up any more than NASCAR or FOX
hyped up the Texas race last night?


  52.   NicoRosbergFan posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:31 pm
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Remember, folks, Gritto spelled sideways is "Ott-tir-g-g!"


  53.   Paul posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:31 pm
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"But at the same time, he's in the Hendrick camp so he'll most likely
turn into another Jimmie or Kasey robot whiner."

He said in his interview that those are the two drivers that he models
himself after. I have no hope for him.

"Why did Chastain have to relinquish his truck to the douche?"

He was only scheduled to run 15 of the 22 races this year. It could be
because he signed with BKR late in the offseason, and deals may have
already been in place for Brad, Joey, and Dave to drive the #19 truck in
the other seven races.

"I've never liked Chase Elliott. I have no idea why. I don't dislike him."

I feel the same way. He just comes off like another Kasey Kahne to me.
His dad had swagger and was a true good ol' boy, and Chase has neither
quality.


  54.   We need more Onion posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:33 pm
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Oh, then it is okay, I tought that Melonanything.com dropped their
sponsorship.


  55.   Kenny posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:34 pm
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Why all the KK disliking all of a suddion I've liked him seance his
rockie year in cup


  56.   MStall41 posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:34 pm
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@Jim Davis That is EXACTLY what is happening with the Eldora race. I'm
sure Eldora will be fun and interesting to watch, but it won't be
drastically better than any of the other truck races.

@TeamPlayersBlue Once again, I'm not targeting you or anyone in
particular on here. Its just a general perception from old school NASCAR
fans that I've seen recurring over and over again this week. There's
this elitist notion among old school NASCAR fans that if something isn't
"old-school NASCAR enough" then it immidiately sucks and is chalked up
to modern day NASCAR being horrible dictators hell bent on killing the
sport. Then anything that IS considered "old-school NASCAR enough"
becomes grossly overrated. Races at the Rock, Darlington, any track with
an abrasive surface, etc, etc are always way more hyped up by old school
fans and the races are invariably not that much more exciting than any
other race.


  57.   TeamPlayersBlue posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:35 pm
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Two years in a row the 30 truck is dominant here.


  58.   Anonymous posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:37 pm
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Logano is getting his first race in not the best equipment in the field
today and isnt doing bad.


  59.   murb posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:38 pm
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"Why all the KK disliking all of a suddion I've liked him seance his
rockie year in cup"

I liked him a lot back then too. When he was with Evernham/Gillet/Petty,
you pulled for him because he was a great driver with a great attitude
that was overachieving in crappy equipment. But ever since he went to
Hendrick, he's basically just become a Jimmie Johnson clone. He's a
total robot, and he complains now more than he ever has before (like at
Bristol when he complained about the lapped car of Terry Labonte not
rolling over for him, or at Texas last year when he cussed out other
former champion Bobby Labonte over the radio).

As I'm typing this, caution for Buescher spinning. I know he was running
up front for a lot of this race, but it looks like he's suffering an
early season championship hangover.


  60.   TeamPlayersBlue posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:39 pm
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Ty Dillon Pitstop fail


  61.   TeamPlayersBlue posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:39 pm
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SPEED is already hyping the Allstar race and we're over a month away.


  62.   We need more Onion posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:41 pm
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Hehe, kudos to TireRack, their commercials are quite funny in an ocean
of annoying and boring comms.


  63.   murb posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:44 pm
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Logano's falling back fast.


  64.   TeamPlayersBlue posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:44 pm
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What, you don't like the endless and repetitive penis pill commercials
from Cialis?


  65.   We need more Onion posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:47 pm
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@64, penis pills should not be advertised without a muscle car or
stallions in the moonlight. lol


  66.   TeamPlayersBlue posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:49 pm
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Funny how the networks and especially FOX is offended by stuff like the
NRA ruining the NASCAR image as 'rednecks' yet they constantly pimp
Cheap Beer and Penis Pills for old white men.

Seems kind of hypocritical.


  67.   Kenny posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:50 pm
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I don't understand the thing between a muscle car and a penis(I hate the
fact that if I owned a sports car it some how is involving my thing)so
freaking stupid


  68.   Matt L posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:50 pm
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I've enjoyed this race. Good track, good race length, good field, and
good racing.

Pretty cool to see the whole field attempt to run the distance today.


  69.   TeamPlayersBlue posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:52 pm
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BK Racing is terrible equipment.


  70.   We need more Onion posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:56 pm
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Besides the Harmonater, everyone is still racing. (and his retriement is
legit, as he ran around 120 laps)


  71.   Paul posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:57 pm
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Erik Jones started dead last and is now running in 11th. Great hire by
Kyle Busch, and hopefully he gets a full-time Truck ride once he's 18
years old.


  72.   Paul posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:58 pm
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"and [Harmon's] retirement is legit, as he ran around 120 laps"

131 laps to be exact.


  73.   TeamPlayersBlue posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:59 pm
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Perhaps Erik Jones is the next Kyle Busch.


  74.   Paul posted:
  04.14.2013 - 3:59 pm
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Bodine into the wall.


  75.   murb posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:00 pm
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You were right Onion.


  76.   Schroeder51 posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:00 pm
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You called it, Onion.

Bodine wrecks.


  77.   Kenny posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:00 pm
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I don't get it the rule is you haft to be 18 or older to drive in the
top 3 series of NASCAR but jeb chase and Larson are all 16-17 so how are
they racing?


  78.   We need more Onion posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:01 pm
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Dayum, would have rather predicted anything else...


  79.   Paul posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:03 pm
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"but jeb chase and Larson are all 16-17 so how are they racing?"

Jeb and Larson are both 20 years old. Also, NASCAR made a rule that
drivers that are 16 or 17 can run road courses and tracks that are one
mile or less in the Truck Series (and I think the Nationwide Series), so
that's why Chase and Erik are in this race.


  80.   TeamPlayersBlue posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:05 pm
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Larson better hope there isn't a green white checker.


  81.   Kenny posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:05 pm
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Ah thx Paul :)


  82.   Schroeder51 posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:07 pm
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Oh boy, Logano is coming on fresh tires.

If he wins this race...


  83.   murb posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:07 pm
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Logano will win this if there is a GWC.


  84.   murb posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:07 pm
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Hell, he might win it even without a GWC.


  85.   Paul posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:07 pm
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Is anyone else kind of pulling for Logano right now?


  86.   TeamPlayersBlue posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:07 pm
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Logano is going to troll the field


  87.   TeamPlayersBlue posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:08 pm
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Paul: Oddly, yes...


  88.   murb posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:09 pm
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"Is anyone else kind of pulling for Logano right now?"

I want to see him go up and take himself and Larson out, allowing Sauter
to steal the win.


  89.   New14 & 88Fan posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:09 pm
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The SPEED crew are practically cheering Logano on.


  90.   We need more Onion posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:10 pm
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GWC. please. someone. at the back. spin.


  91.   murb posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:10 pm
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lol, Caution


  92.   Schroeder51 posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:11 pm
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Caution comes out...Joey Logano is going to win this race.


  93.   TeamPlayersBlue posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:11 pm
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Are you ready for Mayhem?


  94.   Paul posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:11 pm
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What the hell happened to Wallace?


  95.   murb posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:11 pm
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Bubba Wallace wrecks under caution? What the hell?


  96.   NicoRosbergFan posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:11 pm
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Doubting credibility...


  97.   Schroeder51 posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:11 pm
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Darrell Wallace Jr. crashes at the other end of the track.


  98.   TeamPlayersBlue posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:11 pm
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Looks like Bubba crashed under caution


  99.   New14 & 88Fan posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:11 pm
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What happened to Darrell Wallace Jr.


  100.   We need more Onion posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:11 pm
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Looks like I can see the future tonight.


  101.   Alex posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:12 pm
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I hope Larson can hold off Logano and Sauter.


  102.   David posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:12 pm
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"Also, NASCAR made a rule that drivers that are 16 or 17 can run road
courses and tracks that are one mile or less in the Truck Series (and I
think the Nationwide Series), so that's why Chase and Erik are in this
race."

Actually, it's 1.1 miles or less.


  103.   TeamPlayersBlue posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:12 pm
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Up, 3 cars crashing into the outside wall isn't credible at all.


  104.   murb posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:12 pm
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I think Hornaday did what Kyle Busch did to him at Texas.


  105.   We need more Onion posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:12 pm
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It's not too bright guys, not too bright.


  106.   TeamPlayersBlue posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:13 pm
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KBM Karma.


  107.   murb posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:13 pm
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Wow. Pussy move by Hornaday.


  108.   Alex posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:13 pm
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Ron Hornaday gets revenge at a KBM truck after Texas a couple of years
ago..?


  109.   New14 & 88Fan posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:14 pm
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It was wrong for Kyle at Texas, it's wrong for Ron today.

Wreck some one under caution is as low class has you can get.


  110.   Matt L posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:15 pm
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Wow. Doesn't make Ron Hornaday look good at all.


  111.   Paul posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:15 pm
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Tail end of the longest line for Hornaday, so he'll lose four positions.


  112.   Schroeder51 posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:15 pm
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NASCAR is giving Hornaday a slap on the wrist.


  113.   murb posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:15 pm
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My thoughts exactly, New14/88Fan.

Tail end of the longest line? Way to be consistent yet again, Nascar.


  114.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:16 pm
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Ron needs to be parked for this race and the next race. Complete chicken
shit. A fading frustrated legend wrecks a car in a horseshit fashion.
Shades of Phoenix last year.


  115.   Alex posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:16 pm
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Kyle gets parked for the rest of the weekend and Ron only goes to the
end of the longest line? I'm not a Kyle fan but that makes no sense...
More NASCAR inconsistency


  116.   murb posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:16 pm
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I hope Sauter or Crafton wins it.


  117.   MStall41 posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:16 pm
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Hornaday is easily one of the biggest tools in NASCAR.


  118.   We need more Onion posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:17 pm
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Hornaday has always been a coward.
Never knew why people actually like(d) him.


  119.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:17 pm
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Tail end of the longest line? NASCAR, you really suck.


  120.   murb posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:17 pm
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Larson's got it.


  121.   New14 & 88Fan posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:17 pm
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Larson got a heck of a restart, he may have it.


  122.   Schroeder51 posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:18 pm
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Joey Logano comes up short.


  123.   Alex posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:18 pm
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Awesome job Larson!


  124.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:18 pm
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The New Logano beats the Old Logano.


  125.   Paul posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:19 pm
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Larson has a habit of driving without a steering wheel.


  126.   AveryNH posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:19 pm
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Ron didnt mean to hook him into the wall. Bullsh* he spent a lap trying
to do just that. Congrats to Larson. Awesome race. Pit road should be fun.


  127.   murb posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:19 pm
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Takes his steering wheel off as he's still driving.

Kyle "I AM INVINCIBLE, MOTHERf**kERS!!!!!" Larson. What an idiot.


  128.   David posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:20 pm
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"Wreck some one under caution is as low class as you can get."

This is one thing I will agree with. I don't care who it is or what has
been done, wrecking someone under caution is the cheapest, most cowardly
move in racing.


  129.   Kenny posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:20 pm
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Good race


  130.   We need more Onion posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:20 pm
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Somehow, this winning truck reminds me of Whitt's 2004-05 #38 truck.


  131.   18fan posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:20 pm
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Larson won that race on the restart, he did a great job all day.


  132.   Matt L posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:21 pm
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Definitely think today's race topped the 2012 Rockingham race.


  133.   We need more Onion posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:22 pm
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Bubba took it like a man, which is sadly rare nowadays.


  134.   TeamPlayersBlue posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:23 pm
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So glad trucks are back at Kansas next weekend instead of Nationwide.
They put on an amazing show at Vegas last year and should do the same at
Kansas.


  135.   TeamPlayersBlue posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:23 pm
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Gained a lot of respect of Darrell Wallace Jr. today in that interview.


  136.   New14 & 88Fan posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:23 pm
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Nice interview by Bubba Wallace, I like Hornaday but that was an utter
chickenshit move that he pulled.


  137.   Alex posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:23 pm
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Bubba Wallace didn't make the cleanest pass ever.. But that doesn't
warrant an absolute idiotic move by Hornaday. Park him for Kansas
NASCAR, I dare you.


  138.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:24 pm
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What composure by Bubba! I think he may have just gained a fan. A true
fan. I pull for drivers like him to break through until they act like an
asshole, but he appears to have an excellent attitude. He won't let the
cranky old washup derail him.


  139.   Paul posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:24 pm
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Bubba Wallace composed himself as well as he could in his interview.
Obviously frustrated, as he should be, but I'm proud of him that he
didn't go off on a tirade or anything like that.

For anyone who says that Joey Logano doesn't belong in a Cup car, just
watch him drive up through the field over the final 15 laps. Total pro.
Hope to see him continue to give BKR some good runs and help that team
grow later this year.


  140.   murb posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:24 pm
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I like Darrell Wallace. One of the few young guys who isn't an entitled
douchebag, and he's also not afraid to mix it up and race hard. He'll be
around for a long time.


  141.   MStall41 posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:25 pm
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@TeamPlayersBlue Couldn't agree more. Kansas is a perfect track for the
Trucks. Very much looking forward to that race.


  142.   TeamPlayersBlue posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:25 pm
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Name of the weekend: Kyle


  143.   David posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:26 pm
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I haven't seen the Hornaday incident yet, but I'll bet it was pretty cheap.


  144.   murb posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:27 pm
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"I haven't seen the Hornaday incident yet, but I'll bet it was pretty
cheap."

It was exactly what KB did to Hornaday in the 2011 Texas Truck race.


  145.   Paul posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:27 pm
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I don't know what happened to Bubba Wallace in the K&N Pro Series East
last season, but that year appears to be a fluke in his young racing
career. Look for him to be a top five points contender if he continues
running the way he has the past two weeks.


  146.   TeamPlayersBlue posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:27 pm
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Tracks like Kansas are good for trucks because of the aero package and
lower horsepower. And they have wider corner radius so they don't get as
spread out as say Texas or Charlotte.


  147.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
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And for the record, Bubba's pass on Hornaday was nothing but good hard
racing with 3 laps left. I hate people who feel entitled to not be
leaned on ever. Man this reminds me so much of Phoenix last year
(puttering around under green laps down waiting on somebody is no better
than wrecking under caution. Jeez, Earnhardt's move at Richmond '86 may
fall out of the all time Top 10 dick moves in NASCAR history soon.


  148.   TeamPlayersBlue posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:27 pm
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Paul, I think a lot of it is down to KBM equipment. Other than plate
tracks they don't really seem to have it.


  149.   Benjamin Lowe posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:28 pm
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Hornaday has outlived his usefulness in the NASCAR Truck Series it is
time for him to retire.


  150.   Paul posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:28 pm
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At least Hornaday had the guts to admit he drove like an idiot. That's
the first step.


  151.   David posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:29 pm
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I haven't seen much of Darrell Wallace. Currently his biggest problem is
season-to-season consistency, but I think if that can be corrected, he
will have a bright future in NASCAR.


  152.   murb posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:29 pm
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Jeb Burton 2nd in points!!!


  153.   Jarrett88fan posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:29 pm
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The Young Arrogant One beats Sliced Bread...
Anyway, Bubba is the real deal and will do great things in the future.
Hornaday, "I feel like an idiot for wrecking him." just about sums it up.
Hell of a race.


  154.   New14 & 88Fan posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:29 pm
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At least Ron admitted he was an idiot for dumping Bubba, still doesn't
excuse his actions.


  155.   David posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:31 pm
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"Earnhardt's move at Richmond '86 may fall out of the all time Top 10
dick moves in NASCAR history soon"

But it will always be at least a (dis)honorable mention, haha.


  156.   Dave#38 Fan-Go Gilliland! posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:31 pm
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Nascar talking to Hornaday after the race, I highly doubt he'll be
racing next week. Or maybe longer, if the sponsors do the right thing
and ask the team to remove him from the ride.


  157.   Jarrett88fan posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:32 pm
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The 2013 Truck Series is the top series right now hands down.


  158.   MStall41 posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:33 pm
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I'll sum up by saying it was a solid race. Last 20 laps made up for what
I personally felt were a somewhat lackluster 180 opening laps. Still not
convinced that the Rock is drastically better than most tracks though. I
think it would objectively be the 5th or 6th best Cup Series track if it
returned.


  159.   Sean posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:33 pm
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"No driver has been as much of a media favorite before ever winning a
race than Kyle Larson."

Danica. Even Sarah Fisher (who never won a race in the IRL, but at least
she was likable). Funny that Simona de Silvestro is easily better than
either of them and gets minimal media attention.

"In my time watching the sport, I've seen a lot of guys get hyped up
(like Casey Atwood and Joey Logano), but I really don't remember those
guys being as hyped up as Larson has been. It's like the "Logano =
Messiah" stuff from five years ago times a million."

I think we can thank Robin Miller for a lot of that. He in my opinion
laughably overrates almost every emerging USAC talent, even though he's
primarily an IndyCar reporter and USAC is not really good preparation
for IndyCar anymore with rare exceptions (Stewart), really since
rear-engine IndyCars became predominant, but even more when IndyCar went
to a largely road course schedule (although Jeff Gordon, Tony Stewart,
Ryan Newman, and Kasey Kahne's success on road courses in NASCAR
indicates to me that USAC drivers can road race...) Miller was Larson's
personal cheering section for quite some time and even though he is
very, very annoying he's still a pretty legendary and well-connected
reporter... The NASCAR media then followed suit thanks to Jeff Gordon
and Tony Stewart's success (but I thought Kenny Irwin, J.J. Yeley, and
Jason Leffler proved that not just ANY USAC talent can do it?) Miller
also practically bullied Randy Bernard to get Bryan Clauson a ride at
Indy last year and Clauson flat out sucked (as much as I wanted to see
him do well myself)...

Having said that, I've been quite high on Larson myself for the
diversity of series he has been winning in, but his NASCAR career so far
has been wildly inconsistent. Nice job today though.


  160.   Sean posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:34 pm
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And yes, Hornaday needs to retire as badly as Martin, Burton, and
Labonte do.


  161.   murb posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:35 pm
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"I think a lot of it is down to KBM equipment. Other than plate tracks
they don't really seem to have it."

This is true, but remember, he's a full on JGR development guy. So once
Vickers most likely goes back to Cup next year, he'll (hopefully) be in
one of the best NNS rides around. So all he really needs to do at KBM is
just to keep doing what he's doing and get more seat time. As bad as
KBM's equipment seems to be (Coulter hasn't impressed me at all this
year), he looks really good. I think Bubba will definitely win a race
this year, before hopefully going full time NNS next year.


  162.   joey2448 posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:37 pm
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Ok first of all, I can almost guarantee that NASCAR will park Hornaday
for the next race. All you guys are tearing up NASCAR for their
inconsistency, saying the tail end of the longest line penalty wasn't
consistent with what KyBusch did to Hornaday at Texas two years ago, so
hold off until we know exactly what the penalty is!

That being said, that was a shit move by Hornaday (did you see his eyes
when he was wrecking Bubba?) but he said he didn't mean to wreck him
like that, and he feels like an idiot for doing it. Nevertheless I do
expect a one-race suspension.

Btw, what a great race, and a great finish! Kyle Larson is the real
deal, he is competitive in everything he drives! I know some of you
don't like him because of all the media hype and perhaps he might gain
an entitlement attitude because of it, but I'm a fan.

Did that finish remind anyone of the 2001 Cup race a week after
Earnhardt's death, when Steve Park held off a charging Bobby Labonte?


  163.   David posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:37 pm
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For those calling for Ron Hornaday's retirement, it might as well be
known that he scored a 0.909 PEER last year, which is replacement-level.


  164.   Paul posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:39 pm
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I was pretty high on Coulter last year at RCR, but so far he's been
outperformed by both of his younger teammates at KBM. Erik Jones is
going to be a star once he reaches minimum age to run a full schedule,
and I can see Bubba Wallace having a nice productive career in NASCAR as
well.


  165.   Paul posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:40 pm
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"Kyle Larson is the real deal"

Correction: Alex Bowman is "The Real Deal." Larson is "The Next Big Thing."


  166.   murb posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:40 pm
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Inevitable question coming up...

Who drives the 9 truck if Hornaday has to sit out Kansas? As much as I
would love to see a young guy get a shot, I think it's unfortunately
probably going to be Harvick or Newman or some other person who
shouldn't be running in the Truck Series. What a shame.


  167.   TeamPlayersBlue posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:40 pm
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Including Rockingham and Iowa my favourite NASCAR touring series tracks
would be:

1. Martinsville
2. Darlington
3. Homestead
4. Rockingham
5. Watkins Glen
6. Atlanta
7. Richmond
8. Bristol
9. Iowa
10. Sonoma


  168.   TeamPlayersBlue posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:41 pm
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Murb, my bet is on Harvick.


  169.   TS1420 posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:43 pm
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Congrats to Kyle Larson.
Glad moldy bread didn't steal one away from him.

And typical NASCAR.
Hornaday pulls the same exact move on Bubba Wallace that Kyle Busch
pulled on him and got parked the whole weekend for and he only get's
sent to the tale end of the longest line.
Of course NASCAR already proved how inconsistent they are when they did
nothing to Jeff Gordon after deliberately slowing down and hunting for
Clint Bowyer at Phoenix.


  170.   Paul posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:44 pm
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Hornaday is still good enough to continue racing. Yes, he's past his
prime and what he did today was inexcusable and something a driver of
his experience should know better not to do, but his top five runs in
the first two races, along with his top 12 run in this race, for a small
team suggests that he still has some gas left in the tank. I understand
the frustration from some of you guys, having experienced the same thing
at Phoenix last fall, but calling for his retirement just because he's
"washed up" after wrecking Wallace under caution just doesn't suit well
with me.


  171.   MStall41 posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:53 pm
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If I had to rank them....

1. Bristol
2. Talladega
3. Watkins Glen
4. Martinsville
5. Atlanta
6. Rockingham
7. Auto Club
8. Daytona (It was number one before the repave....)
9. Richmond
10. Homestead


  172.   TeamPlayersBlue posted:
  04.14.2013 - 4:56 pm
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Daytona and Talladega were well into my top 10 before the repaves,
especially Daytona. The 2010 Daytona 500 was one of the best races I've
ever seen and it was a privilege to be there despite waiting hours for
the potholes to be fixed. Now it's just stale, and hard to call auto
racing.


  173.   Paul posted:
  04.14.2013 - 5:00 pm
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Drivers used to be able to pass each other at Daytona, but now they just
remain stagnant while racing side-by-side (and not even side-by-side in
this past Daytona 500). At least at Talladega drivers can still pass
each other, as seen from last year's races.


  174.   cjs3872 posted:
  04.14.2013 - 5:01 pm
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Murb, whether or not Darrell Wallace ends up in a JGR car in the
Nationwide Series next year depends on how good he does, as well as how
well Alex Bowman does in RAB's Nationwide car. Frankly, it wouldn't
surprise me if Bowman got the call, especially if he keeps doing as good
as he has been doing. Actually, it wopuldn't surprise me if Parker
Kiligerman, who drivers Kyle Busch's Nationwide Series car was in
contention for a JGR Nationwide ride if either Vickers or Sadler moved
back up into the Cup Series in 2014. If I had to guess, Bowman would be
the favorite to take that ride, depending on the relationship between
MWR and JGR.

Actually, with Martin Truex, Jr. proving again last night what I said
last year about his inability to win races, Waltrip may be looking to
replace him, which could leave him in quite a quandry. I think if Truex
doesn't win a race this year, he could be out of the #56 car at season's
end, and with Vickers probably moving to the #55 full-time next year,
the #56 car might be a sought-after ride next year. After all, all you
need to know about Martin Truex, Jr.'s inability to win races is this.
He leaves the #1 car after the 2009 season, and Jamie McMurray, with the
exact same team, wins the Daytona 500, the Brickyard 400, and the fall
race at Charlotte in 2010. Truex never wins any of those races. I think
Waltrip also knows this, but at this time, has nobody capable of
replacing Truex, and Bowman is at least two years from being ready, so
Michael will be needing a stop-gap in the #56 car. Then again, since
Mark Martin seems to be so high on Bowman, it wouldn't suprise me that,
if Truex is let go, that Vickers moves into the #55 car, and Mark moves
to the #56 and Waltrip decides to have him split that car with Bowman
with Bowman running full-time in the Nationwide Series, possibly for
Gibbs next year.


  175.   Alex posted:
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Cjs, I saw you mentioned it on the Cup page last night and post #174,
but it sounds like you're implying Bowman is a MWR developent driver. I
know MWR and RAB had an alliance in the past, but I thought Bowman just
signed with RAB and has no connection to MWR.


  176.   MStall41 posted:
  04.14.2013 - 5:05 pm
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Daytona had the most perfect blend of close draft intensive racing and
tough handling oriented racing before the racing. No one could really
get away, but you needed a good handling race car and needed to WHEEL it
to stay up at the front. It was far and away the best track on the
circuit IMO. Dega has always sort of been the way it is to a certain
degree, but it was MUCH better when the track had some character.
Honestly, Dega isnt that far off from being where it needs to be, that
track just needs a radically new tire that could bring some semblance of
handling back into the equation like it had in the mid 2000s.

Daytona post repave is just a disgrace. For what its worth, I consider
the 2013 daytona 500 to be anomalous because of the newness of the Gen 6
car, but the racing at Daytona is just so far off of what it was before
the repave. Plus the rules have changed there so many times since the
repave that its impossible to get a read on what the racing would
actually look like if we had a decent plate package in place.


  177.   MStall41 posted:
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Also, since it was brought up, I consider the 2010 races at Daytona
(both the 500 and the Firecracker) along with the 2001 races there to be
among the best in the tracks history. Potholes aside, I mostly consdider
the 2010 Daytona 500 to be the best one of all time. Just an utterly
fantastic race.


  178.   cjs3872 posted:
  04.14.2013 - 5:18 pm
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Alex, I suspect that MWR and Toyota put him in that RAB Racing car to
develop him, especially because I believe that Michael Waltrip is
beginning to realize that Martin Truex, Jr. can't win any races, no
matter how good his car is, and I believe Waltrip wants someone in that
car that can actually win races, and that's where Bowman and Mark Martin
may come in. Everyone thinks Bowman can be a big winner, but he needs
someone to mentor him, and Mark Martin would be perfect for that. If
Truex continues to throw away chances at winning races, and Bowman keeps
running the way he's running now, I would not be surprised if Waltrip
makes the decision to put Martin in the #56 car next year and have him
split the ride with someone like Bowman. But also, I would not be
surprised if Bowman ends up in an RCR or Roush Nationwide car next year
either, possibly as Trevor Bayne's replacement if Bayne moves up to Cup
full-time next year.

But yes, I do believe that RAB Racing is the development arm for Michael
Waltrip's team, much like Kyle Busch Motorsports has become the
development organization for Joe Gibbs Racing. Brett Moffitt ran a race
in the RAB car last year for the same reason and finished in the top
ten, so I do believe Michael Waltrip is using RAB Racing to develop
younger drivers, instead of starting a Nationwide team of his own.


  179.   cjs3872 posted:
  04.14.2013 - 5:21 pm
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I don't know, MStall41. I think quite a number of the races at Daytona
prior to the domination of the '83 T-Bird in 1985 were great, as well.
In fact, the races at Daytona in 1974 and 1984 were among the best ever,
and I consider the 1984 Daytona 500 to be the greatest Daytona 500 ever
run, and many believe that the two greatest Firecrackers 400s were the
1974 and 1984 races.


  180.   MStall41 posted:
  04.14.2013 - 5:29 pm
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I can't speak for '74 but I know the '84 races were excellent. I never
actually saw those races live so my preferences tend to be skewed
towards the ones that I saw in my lifetime.


  181.   Alex posted:
  04.14.2013 - 5:32 pm
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Cjs, I didn't think Moffitt was MWR property anymore because he is
driving for the Hattori race team in the K&N West Series and in 5 truck
races this year.


  182.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
  04.14.2013 - 5:38 pm
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The '74 Firecracker 400 was the ultimate "Silver Fox" race. Not
necessarily his greatest race (though it is close, outracing Petty at
Daytona from '64-'84 was no joke), just the greatest example that he
just smarter than everyone else.


  183.   cjs3872 posted:
  04.14.2013 - 5:39 pm
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That might be true for this year, but I was referring to last year when
Moffitt drove the RAB car at Richmond and finished in the top ten. When
it became obvious to Moffitt that Waltrip and Toyota had chosen to
develop Bowman over Moffitt, Moffitt and Waltrip probably decided to
sever ties and Moffitt went in another direction.


  184.   Alex posted:
  04.14.2013 - 5:41 pm
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I'm so excited to see this series in September at CTMP!


  185.   ch posted:
  04.14.2013 - 5:42 pm
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Sponsor Changes:

07 - SS Greenlight Racing
19 - Reese Towpower Carbon Forged Ball Mount Rises
27 - Hillman Racing
81 - Niece Equipment
84 - Chris Fontaine Inc. (Unsponsored - Official Team Name)

Owner Change:

94 - Rick Hendrick (Same for Martinsville)


  186.   12345Dude posted:
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"I don't know what happened to Bubba Wallace in the K&N Pro Series East
last season, but that year appears to be a fluke in his young racing
career. Look for him to be a top five points contender if he continues
running the way he has the past two weeks."

The east series really doesn't show driver's talent when they make it to
the trucks/nationwide because the whole schedule is short tracks. The
NASCAR schedule doesn't have many at all.

For example Chase Elliott drove Hendrick equipment in the east series
against the other teams that were all basically family owned or very
small teams (this was when Turner and Brad Keselowski Racing didn't have
teams). And he finished 9th and 4th in points.

And look at how he is doing in the trucks 6th and 5th so far.

"Hornaday pulls the same exact move on Bubba Wallace that Kyle Busch
pulled on him and got parked the whole weekend for and he only get's
sent to the tale end of the longest line.

Of course NASCAR already proved how inconsistent they are when they did
nothing to Jeff Gordon after deliberately slowing down and hunting for
Clint Bowyer at Phoenix."

To NASCAR's defense Hornaday was probably the favorite to win the title
with what 2 races to go in the season? Wallace has finished 12th 5th and
would of finished 12th today.

"But yes, I do believe that RAB Racing is the development arm for
Michael Waltrip's team"

Totally agree CJS. Also I think this shows why MWR should of kept David
Reuitmann. The only reason Reuitmann hasn't been successful is the
equipment and because he is mentally gone. He worked his whole life to
be in good equipment and then after being very successful he get's it
taken away from him. Yes maybe this proves that he couldn't face
adversity if he was MWR but I still think he would be a chase contender
& winning a race a year.

How he was fired from MWR just destroyed him mentally.


  187.   cjs3872 posted:
  04.14.2013 - 5:44 pm
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DSFF, the 1974 Frecracker 400 is best known for it's finish, with
Pearson's fake-out of Richard Petty, and the only dead-heat in NASCAR
history between Cale Yarborough and Buddy Baker for third place, but hat
entire race was insane. There were three lead changes among three
drivers on the first lap alone, and the entire race was like that, and
it was between five different makes of cars, Mercury, Ford, Dodge,
Cherolvet, and Roger Penske's AMC Matador with Bobby Allison driving.


  188.   jabber1990 posted:
  04.14.2013 - 6:14 pm
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am I the only one who liked the 2011 daytona 500?


the 2012 could have been better...but EVERYTHING went wrong, rain delay,
lap 1 big crash, 2 hour red flag for the damndest thing (what was the
cause, a broken axle?)then 2 more big wrecks.


  189.   Anonymous posted:
  04.14.2013 - 6:28 pm
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Fix the date.


  190.   Talon64 posted:
  04.14.2013 - 6:43 pm
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If RAB Racing really were still affiliated with Michael Waltrip Racing
in any way then they'd probably be using TRD engines instead of being
stuck with Triad.

There's nothing with the team this year that suggests they're still with
MWR. They had the alliance for Travis Pastrana but then he went with
Roush so I think that's when the relationship ended.


  191.   joey2448 posted:
  04.14.2013 - 6:47 pm
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"am I the only one who liked the 2011 daytona 500?"

I did too. Even with all the cautions (16), it played out very nicely.
And the unknown factor was the new pavement, which led to the two-car
tandems that we saw, and it was crazy to hear all the teams making deals
on the radio to draft with each other. Kept me on the edge of my seat
most of the afternoon (actually morning for me). And to cap it off, a
surprise winner took the checkered flag!


  192.   83andJoe posted:
  04.14.2013 - 6:48 pm
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I've been a fan of Hornaday's since the start of the SuperTruck Series
Presented By Craftsman, but that was a dick move, bro. He should have
been parked.

Erik Jones is now on my "real deal" list.

Good run for JWT.

To MStall41 etc: while the racing itself might or might not be better
technically at tracks like Rockingham vs Texas, there's an intangible
factor at tracks like The Rock. You get the feel that racing is
/supposed/ to be happening here; that the rubber and gasoline has taken
form and /become/ something, as opposed to Texas and, say, Las Vegas,
where racing is just something that happens to happen in the middle of
an entertainment palace. Good racing, perhaps, but it's still an adjunct
to the facility, as opposed to part of its DNA.

(That said, bring on Greenville-Pickens in 2014!!)


  193.   83andJoe posted:
  04.14.2013 - 6:49 pm
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Third caution: #57, #94 accident backstretch


  194.   Paul posted:
  04.14.2013 - 7:09 pm
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"I've been a fan of Hornaday's since the start of the SuperTruck Series
Presented By Craftsman, but that was a dick move, bro. He should have
been parked."

I share the same sentiment. Hornaday has always been one of my favorite
Truck Series drivers, but he definitely should have been parked for
that. I'm not in favor of a suspension (I also opposed Kyle Busch's
suspension for a similar incident at Texas '11), but that should have
been the last thing he did in the race today.

"You get the feel that racing is /supposed/ to be happening here; that
the rubber and gasoline has taken form and /become/ something,"

I also think that with tracks like Rockingham, Darlington, and Atlanta,
where the asphalt isn't very smooth and tracks weren't designed to be
"technical" tracks, that it brings out the best in drivers. Not only are
they racing each other, but they're racing against the track and their
own cars as well. The key to winning at these places is to take care of
your equipment, don't beat yourself, and make sure to put yourself in a
position to win, hoping that circumstances are on your side.

I think Kyle Petty described Rockingham perfectly when he called it "a
lazy man's race track." By that he meant that the key is to not drive
the car too hard because you need to be able to last the whole race in
order to have a chance to win, what with the unique banking and rough
surface. And since Kyle is a self-admitted lazy individual, it makes
perfect sense that he was such a dominant force at The Rock back in his
heyday in the early '90s.

"(That said, bring on Greenville-Pickens in 2014!!)"

Totally with you on that one! I'm all for having a national series race
at South Boston and Hickory as well.


  195.   UnderdogFan89 posted:
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I could be wrong, but I think this is the first race in a long, long
time not held at Daytona, for the three major NASCAR series, to not have
a start-and-park team. Really nice to see.


  196.   Talon64 posted:
  04.14.2013 - 7:50 pm
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That just shows how much respect both drivers and teams have for this
track that the teams who qualified for the race didn't S&P.

But I just noticed that Spencer Gallagher DNQ'd. :(


  197.   Paul posted:
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As a matter of fact, UnderdogFan89, there only a combined three
start-and-parks the entire weekend in the top three series (McDowell in
Cup, Green and Yeley in Nationwide). That is definitely a good sign for
the future of NASCAR. When all three series were in action on the same
weekend in 2012, it was almost a guarantee that there would be at least
10-15 start-and-parks covering all three series, so this is a good sign
for this sport moving forward.

This was the first NASCAR race that Johnny Chapman has finished since
the Truck race at Kentucky in 2011. He attempted to run the full race at
Talladega last fall, but got caught up in a late crash that knocked both
he and teammate Ross Chastain out of the race. And Mike Harmon completed
more laps in this race (131) than he had in his past two Truck Series
seasons COMBINED (109).

Along with Chapman and Harmon, there were six (mostly) blank trucks in
this race. Mike Harmon, Jeff Agnew, and Chris Jones were planning on
running the full race, but each got collected in accidents along the way
and decided to park it rather than risk more damage. Norm Benning made
contact with the wall and had smoke come from his truck at one point in
the race, but managed to bring it home and finish the race. Ryan Sieg
was running on the lead lap the entire race and was in contention for a
top 15 finish before Timothy Peters came up into him while exiting a turn.

Max Gresham gets just his 2nd career lead lap finish in the Truck
Series. He had a pretty good race for someone with no full-time teammates.


  198.   b4il3y posted:
  04.14.2013 - 8:07 pm
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Hornaday needs to retire? Sitting 4th in points, 3 lead lap finishes in
3 races.. am I missing something? He'll retire when he's good and ready
and doesn't think he's competitive ..and right now he's doing very well
for himself for his age. Not trying to be snarky but I really don't see
why everyone is crying for retirement. Are you all that anxious to get
rid of him or something?


  199.   irony posted:
  04.14.2013 - 9:23 pm
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Yup. Horn's the only thing about the Truck Series from when I became a
fan that is still around today. He's still competitive, but he's not
been "right" lately, from not talking to Jeb last week to whatever he
was thinking today. But I probably won't watch many Truck races when
he's gone.


  200.   MStall41 posted:
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"To MStall41 etc: while the racing itself might or might not be better
technically at tracks like Rockingham vs Texas, there's an intangible
factor at tracks like The Rock. You get the feel that racing is
/supposed/ to be happening here; that the rubber and gasoline has taken
form and /become/ something, as opposed to Texas and, say, Las Vegas,
where racing is just something that happens to happen in the middle of
an entertainment palace. Good racing, perhaps, but it's still an adjunct
to the facility, as opposed to part of its DNA."

The whole intangible factor is exactly what I was talking about before.
When that intangible factor is removed, is the actual racing really that
drastically much better? Sure, its better, but just not to the extent
that its often hyped up to be.


  201.   cjs3872 posted:
  04.14.2013 - 9:26 pm
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Well, there may be a reason for Hornaday's odd behavior. Remember that a
few years ago, he was having problems with a thyroid condition and had
to take drugs to treat it, which NASCAR deemed to be OK. Could it be
that he's suffering side effects from either the thyroid condition or
the treatment for that, and has for some time?


  202.   murb posted:
  04.14.2013 - 9:49 pm
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Hornaday is just frustrated because he's driving for a team that is
clearly not as good as his former KHI team was. Perhaps he developed a
bit of an ungrateful attitude as he was kicking everyone's ass at KHI?

I don't know. I'd have to say that Hornaday is one of my all time
favorite drivers (from any series), but I definitely lost a bit of
respect for him today. He said he didn't mean to put Bubba in the wall
in his interview, but then the in car replay clearly shows him purposely
wrecking him (due to the look in his eyes and how he turned dead left).

As far as whether or not he should retire, I don't think so. Like Paul
and b4il3y said, he's been putting up good numbers this year (other than
today), and it was just two years ago where he won multiple races and
could have contended for a championship (if Kyle wouldn't have wrecked
him at Texas). So as long as he's competitive, I'd say keep competing.

Overall though, I think it's just that he's frustrated because his KHI
domination days are over. He can still put up good numbers and probably
win races with his current team, but I don't think he'll be able to beat
a Thorsport or Turner truck for a championship.


  203.   irony posted:
  04.14.2013 - 9:55 pm
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Unknown. He's always been crazy as hell on the track, but wrecking
someone under caution, if intentional, isn't his norm. Not talking to
another competitor isn't either.


  204.   jabber1990 posted:
  04.14.2013 - 9:58 pm
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im not defending Hornaday, or Busch

but there is a diffrence between pulling a Kyle Busch at 200MPH and
pulling a Kyle Busch at 120MPH

wait, how fast were they going?


  205.   irony posted:
  04.14.2013 - 10:04 pm
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Kyle being a Cup driver is what pissed me off about Texas. I never had
an opinion on the Gordon/Bowyer thing.


  206.   jabber1990 posted:
  04.14.2013 - 10:05 pm
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"pulling a Kyle Busch"

what does that mean? crashing under Caution? Winning? sweeping?

gimmie that broom, i'm gonna pull a Kyle Busch with it


  207.   cjs3872 posted:
  04.14.2013 - 10:36 pm
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Which irony, is why I say there might be a chemical imbalance there from
the drugs he had to take several years ago for his thyroid condition.
Any time drugs of any kind are taken, there may be side effects that can
take quite a while to develop. I know because it's happened to me. And
Hornaday's always been wild, unpredictable, and sometimes dirty, much
like the man that brought him to the Truck Series, Dale, Sr., was. But
he never pulled anything like this before that I can remember, and he
usually talks to a driver he's not happy with, so something's definately
up with him.


  208.   Anonymous posted:
  04.14.2013 - 11:12 pm
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Pretty small purse


  209.   TeamPlayersBlue posted:
  04.14.2013 - 11:33 pm
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Which makes the lack of start and parks even more impressive.


  210.   cjs3872 posted:
  04.14.2013 - 11:47 pm
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Actually, the fact that this race had such a small purse may be why
there were no start-and-parks, because it's not really worth it, which
is why NASCAR changed the bottom of the pay order to start with. They
don't really like the start-and-parks, but there isn't anything they can
do to stop it, either, except mandate that every team has a pit crew, a
rule that was adpoted after the fiasco involving James Finch's team not
having a pit crew in the final Cup race at Rockingham in 2004.


  211.   jabber1990 posted:
  04.14.2013 - 11:57 pm
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"except mandate that every team has a pit crew, a rule that was adpoted
after the fiasco involving James Finch's team not having a pit crew in
the final Cup race at Rockingham in 2004. "

is there anything James Finch hasn't tried?


  212.   Baker posted:
  04.15.2013 - 6:56 am
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DSFF so us all a favor and just shut up. If you only knew half of what
you pretend to know then you would know Kyle Larson is nothing like Joey
Logano as a talent, a racer or a person. There style on and off the
track is as different as it gets.


  213.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
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Baker! Nice to see you are back from whatever rock it is you've been
hiding under. For the record, when did I ever compare Larson or Logano's
driving style? I am comparing the amount of early hype they are getting.
It's like when I compare KyBu and Gordon, calling Kyle "The New Jeff
Gordon" and Jeff "The Old Jeff Gordon". Could their driving styles be
any different? But they have had very similar entries into Cup, great
equipment at a very young age, so I compare them and how badly Jeff
outclassed Kyle at a similar age.


  214.   Daniel posted:
  04.15.2013 - 4:24 pm
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Kansas entry list:

-Scott Saunders in the #0

-Chris Cockrum in the #07

-#1 TBA

-#6 TBA

-#30 TBA

-Kyle Busch in the #51

-Justin Jennings in the #63

-Chris Fontaine in the #84


  215.   Baker posted:
  04.15.2013 - 4:59 pm
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DSFF,

Even if comes down to just rides your comparison is still far off base.
Joey Logano has the undisputed top flight ride in ever series he was in
at the Nascar level. Kyle Larson hasn't even been in the elite ride on
dirt let alone in NASCAR. As good as Turner Motorsports is turning
itself into they still don't compare to Joe Gibbs Racing now and
especially not the force they were when Logano first came up.

Kyle Larson earned his hype on the race track far more than Joey Logano
who earned most of his hype bc of an overzealous Mark Martin comment.

Oh and I have been living under the I don't give a flying - about Sprint
Cup anymore because there BS is over the top rock. I haven't watched a
cup race since Daytona and the only reason I watch Nationwide at this
point is to see guys like Larson, Bowman and others. The only series
worth watching right now is the Truck series with Jeb, Chase, Blaney,
Larson, Wallace Jr. and others having a legit chance to prove themselves
without too much Cup interference.


  216.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
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Dude, I am just comparing the amount of hype as The Next Big Thing they
are getting. The way Larson is being pumped by the press reminds me so
much of Logano in '08. The way he is being talked about is eerily
similar. That is all.


  217.   The Long Shot posted:
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Chase Elliott is going to be huge in NASCAR, I can tell. At least as
good as his father, if not better.

Another one to keep an eye on is Erik Jones. Just 16 years old, and he's
running better than seasoned veterans out there.

This is the first Truck race I've seen in some time in which all 36
trucks attempted to run the full race. The only reason Harmon, Agnew,
and Jones DNF'd was because they had suffered damage in earlier crashes
and didn't want to risk tearing up even more equipment.

By the way, did anybody see what happened to Andy Seuss in qualifying?


  218.   Talon64 posted:
  04.17.2013 - 6:30 am
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I was actually pretty worried about Chase Elliott's chances this year in
Trucks since I didn't think he was especially impressive last year in
K&N East, even though he led the points for a while, since he was
driving Hendrick equipment but wasn't running up front and competing for
wins like I thought he should've.

And he gets to drive the best equipment in NCWTS with Turner-prepared
Trucks. But a 17 year old coming in to an incredibly competitive series
and getting top 6 finishes in his first two starts is impressive no
matter what and he's blown away my expectations.

I'm not sure I even had any expectations for Erik Jones since he had
less hype and he's only 16, but you didn't really notice him until he
was suddenly in the top 10 at the end of the race which is pretty great
for someone that young. He had a race-high +22 pass differential, thanks
in part to starting dead last but still great. Sauter was 2nd at +21
thanks in part to his pit crew being so terrible in the race. Actually,
Chase Elliott was 3rd at +8.

"Having said that, I've been quite high on Larson myself for the
diversity of series he has been winning in, but his NASCAR career so far
has been wildly inconsistent. Nice job today though."

That's probably going to happen when your first season of stock cars was
just a year ago in the regional series, and with just that under your
belt you're suddenly driving Nationwide full time. He might've been
better off running full time Trucks this year to run for the
championship with a half schedule of Nationwide, but if his rookie year
in NNS ends up looking something like this:
http://www.racing-reference.info/drivdet/gordoje01/1991/B, then I
wouldn't be surprised or disappointed. Or if Bowman beats him for ROTY,
since Bowman's had much more stock car experience and the #99's a pretty
solid team so he really should beat him.

It's like Damian Lillard in the NBA this season, who had 4 seasons in
college before going into the NBA so that added experience and age
helped him dominate the ROTY battle since he was so much more prepared
to be a pro. Versus some other guys who could have an equal or higher
ceiling but were much more green. Bowman's closer to being a pro, while
Larson's more green.


  219.   Dave#38 Fan-Go Gilliland! posted:
  04.17.2013 - 12:41 pm
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Andy Seuss spun out in qualilfying. He only had a chance to run 1 of the
two practice sessions for the race since he ran the Whelen Southern
Modified Tour race at South Boston and Saturday night, he was one of the
slowest trucks in the practice he did run and was probably just trying
to hard to get into the show and lost it and spun out.


  220.   New14 & 88Fan posted:
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Ron Hornaday's been docked 25 points for wrecking Bubba Wallace under
yellow and placed on probation till June 12.


  221.   David posted:
  04.17.2013 - 1:15 pm
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Ron Hornaday has been docked 25 points.


  222.   The Long Shot posted:
  04.17.2013 - 2:50 pm
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Thanks Dave. And Talon64, you're right. Perhaps my excitement was a bit
premature. Nevertheless, great runs for Elliott and Jones. They should
be tearing up the Truck series within the next year or two.


  223.   DW17 posted:
  06.08.2013 - 11:08 am
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so far best truck race of 2013


  224.   The Long Shot posted:
  06.26.2013 - 7:51 pm
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Withdrew: 24-Kevin Harvick, 02-TBA


  225.   The Long Shot posted:
  06.26.2013 - 7:53 pm
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Correction:

Withdrew: 24-Kevin Harvick, 02-Tyler Young, 35-Charles Lewandoski


  226.   Nascar Lead Lap Points posted:
  04.26.2014 - 12:30 pm
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Extra Withdrew
02 Tyler Young Young's Building Systems / Randco Ind. Randy Young Chevy


  227.   Nascar Lead Lap Points posted:
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WD 35 Charles Lewandoski Randco/ Young's Building Systems Randy Young
Chevrolet
Owner of the #6 was Randy Young (They were only using Eddie Sharp's
owner points)
Owner of the #1 was Mark Beaver(They were only using Rick Ware's owner
points)


  228.   Mr. Checkered posted:
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Hopefully this won't be the last NASCAR race at Rockingham. If these new
owners can get the track up to date, I don't see why they couldn't at
least bring a Truck race back if not an Xfinity or Cup race.


  229.   ShinyMew151 posted:
  09.15.2019 - 11:46 am
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Ron got off way too light for what he did this race


  230.   Bodyblower posted:
  04.20.2020 - 3:26 pm
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Coleman Pressley practiced the 19.


  231.   Bodyblower posted:
  04.20.2020 - 9:17 pm
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Got that from Ultimate Racing History.


  232.   MSportRev posted:
  04.20.2020 - 10:11 pm
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I can confirm what @230 said. Logano ran the Cup race in Texas the day
before, so Coleman practiced the Truck.


  233.   David posted:
  04.21.2020 - 9:53 am
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If all a driver did was practice in place of another driver, there's
nothing to update. That doesn't count as a "driver change".


  234.   Bodyblower posted:
  04.21.2020 - 9:53 am
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So can we update that?


  235.   Bodyblower posted:
  04.21.2020 - 10:12 am
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Still worth mentioning.


  236.   Sector posted:
  04.21.2020 - 12:03 pm
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#234 It's only a driver change if a driver qualifies it, then another
starts the race with it upon the first green flag drop.

#233 There is nothing wrong with what he is sharing; These comment
section should be filled with info about the race itself, even if the
driver only practices the car which is a pointless detail it's still
valid info.


  237.   GoRC10 posted:
  04.21.2020 - 4:35 pm
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@236
I agree its worth mentioning, but it doesn't need to be updated, nor
does he need to post four times about it.


  238.   Timothy_Eklund posted:
  04.21.2020 - 6:04 pm
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Seeing as his last 2 posts were due to a question about how driver
changes work, I have no problem with him posting four times.


  239.   Bodyblower posted:
  04.21.2020 - 6:37 pm
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So can you update it?


  240.   JSPorts posted:
  04.21.2020 - 6:53 pm
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That wouldn't be listed as a driver change because he didn't qualify the
truck.


  241.   Corey posted:
  04.21.2020 - 7:20 pm
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@240 In fairness to Bodyblower, the 2019 Cup Charlotte Roval event lists
Austin Cindric as a driver change for the #34 even though Michael
McDowell qualified and raced the car. All Cindric did was practice it.
It is a bit inconsistent if we have do it for one race but not another.


  242.   possum posted:
  04.21.2020 - 7:20 pm
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@238 - if there was any evidence he understood the answer, I'd agree
with you. Judging by post 239 he continues to have no clue.


  243.   David posted:
  04.21.2020 - 7:22 pm
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Then that 2019 race should be corrected to remove Cindric as a DC.


  244.   Bodyblower posted:
  04.21.2020 - 8:47 pm
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Yeah so let's add Pressley as a DC.


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