|| *Comments on the 2019 Ford EcoBoost 200:* View the most recent comment <#207> | Post a comment <#post> 1. RaceFanX posted: 11.12.2019 - 3:10 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) The Gander Outdoors Truck Series season comes down to its final race and the traditional four-way throw down for the championship as reigning champion Brett Moffitt goes head-to-head against Stewart Friesen, Ross Chastain, and Matt Crafton. Moffitt is looking for a second-straight title, Crafton is looking to regain the crown with a third championship, Chastain is looking to win the championship he's been gunning for ever since he switched mid-season to running for Truck points, and Friesen could become the first-ever Canadian champion of a national American NASCAR touring series. 2. 34McDowellFan posted: 11.12.2019 - 3:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #7 owner should be David Gilliland not All Out Motorsports A really good entry list, 37 entries is great to see 3. Yeet posted: 11.12.2019 - 4:28 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Bottom 10 in Owner Points #7 DGR-CROSLEY Racing (54th) #75 Henderson Motorsports (46th) #19 Bill McAnally Racing (42nd) #5 DGR-CROSLEY Racing (38th) #87 NEMCO Motorsports (34th) #97 JJL Motorsports (33rd) #49 CMI Motorsports (32nd) #9 CR7 Motorsports (31st) #04 Roper Racing (30th) #56 Hill Motorsports (28th) Looks like it will be another tight one in qualifying, all the season's works from all these teams have set themselves in the position they are regarding points, and there will likely be some guys at the end of qualifying thankful they have them. 4. 52 posted: 11.12.2019 - 8:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Joe Nemechek should break Petty's record for races started in the top 3 series in this race. 5. Yeet posted: 11.12.2019 - 10:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Didn't even notice the #11 of Rette Jones Racing and Spencer Davis were entered, they sit 41st in points so move everyone up one past 41st 6. 34McDowellFan posted: 11.12.2019 - 11:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) For the Championship my heart says Chastain, but my head says Moffitt 7. Maverick19 posted: 11.13.2019 - 1:31 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Pretty much going with Moffitt because Chastain and Friesen are probably screwed by proxy. JGR got beat by a customer for the 2017 championship, if GMS is providing Halmar and Niece with equipment it's certainly not going to be as good as the 24... Or maybe I'm wrong and all 3 of them will put up a big fight. Guess we'll have to wait and see. 8. Ultimate_Warrior_#18 posted: 11.13.2019 - 7:25 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Rooting for Chastain and the underdog Niece Motorsports to pull this off but i like all 4 of the championship contenders i wouldn't mind seeing any of them win 9. Timothy_Eklund posted: 11.13.2019 - 9:56 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Angela Ruch's truck was designed by her terminally ill nephew, and is sponsored by Give a Child a Voice. 10. TeamDCRfan posted: 11.13.2019 - 10:39 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) @4 He broke it at the Phoenix Cup race 11. TeamDCRfan posted: 11.13.2019 - 10:40 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Final race for JJL. The sponsorship Diversified Utility Group's president bought the team. It's going to be a similar situation like StarCom. 12. ThatGuy posted: 11.13.2019 - 3:16 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @10 he only tied him at Phoenix 13. MJM posted: 11.13.2019 - 8:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @1 Also, for the Owner's Championship, the 51 truck is still alive for it. If Christian Eckes wins at Homestead, or at least finishes better than Brett Moffitt, Ross Chastain, and Stewart Friesen, Kyle Busch wins another Owner's Championship. 14. TeamDCRfan posted: 11.13.2019 - 8:38 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @12 673 Cup races + 444 Xfinity + 68 Truck is 1185. Richard has 1184 15. JSPorts posted: 11.13.2019 - 8:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That's incredible. Lots of miles logged in all those races. 16. Anon posted: 11.14.2019 - 12:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I get he signed a 3 race deal but after what Bohn did at Phoenix I'm very surprised they didn't put Poole back in the 30. 17. ThatGuy posted: 11.14.2019 - 12:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @14 well I guess there's a Bobby Allison 84/85 problem. Back in March on racehub they had a stat of the top 9 drivers wuth the most starts across the 3 series because Kyle Busch (9th at the time) was about to make his 1,000th start. Richard Petty was 1st with 1,185 18. Spen posted: 11.14.2019 - 2:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Petty's *qualified* for 1185 races, but he had a DNS at Beltsville in 1965. 19. Bayne&BowmanFan posted: 11.14.2019 - 5:30 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) KBM has announced that Todd Gilliland will be replaced heading into 2019. The #4 Toyota will be driven by Canadian Raphael Lessard. Additionally, Harrison Burton's heir has been determined, as Arca champion Christian Eckes will move to the seat of the #18. Breaking news out of GMS Racing also has that rookie of the year Tyler Ankrum will make the full-time move over to that team, as a third full-time entry alongisde Sheldon Creed and Brett Moffitt. 20. George_Costanza posted: 11.14.2019 - 6:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I've been critical of KBM quite a bit, especially this season with the lack of results from Burton and Gilliland. I do think Eckes is much more talented than both of the drivers listed, but I'm very interested to see if it's the 51 that made Eckes good. I think it's very clear to everyone that the 51 has been miles ahead of the 4 and 18, so that'll be something to watch. 21. ThatGuy posted: 11.14.2019 - 6:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @18 not saying they're right because it's race hub, but it said starts, not races qualified. But, whichever, it'll be Nemechek's record that'll be 1,188 if his weekend goes as planned. @19 big news for Ankrum. It'll be interesting to see if he can outperform Creed. Also, I've been wondering who'd be at KBM next year, with Chandler Smith missing 9 of the first 12 races. I assumed Eckes, and I was thinking Lessard (only 2019 KBM driver old enough for the whole 2020 season, who isn't in Xfinity or going there) but he only has 5 truck starts and only 3 for KBM, his last start was at Canada and last KBM start was at Bristol. His best finish is 9th and while his worst finish is 14th he has no top 10s for KBM. I expect him to be worse than Gilliland this year 22. JFM01 posted: 11.15.2019 - 9:57 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) DNQ predictions: 97, 49, 9, 10, 34 23. Stifler posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:16 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Decker 1.5 seconds off her teammates. Real impressive stuff. 24. Anonymous posted: 11.15.2019 - 12:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wow, how about that? Jesse Little is second quickest in practice session #2. 25. Canadianfan posted: 11.15.2019 - 4:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Qualifying cancelled due to rain. Friesen, Eckes, Chastain, and Moffitt your Top 4. 26. Anonymous posted: 11.15.2019 - 4:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Josh Reaume has withdrawn. 27. Yeet posted: 11.15.2019 - 4:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Is Josh the only WD? Also I'm confused how provisionals work since a website (MotorsportsOne.com) I'm looking at has the #75 and the #7 making it if qualifying is cancelled over the #87 and #5, which have more attempts and points. 28. Canadianfan posted: 11.15.2019 - 4:52 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) @27 Lineup by rulebook -- 25 by owner points, 2 by fastest speed in practice (includes both practices), 5 spots for 2018-19 winners and past champs (none in this field), 5 by owner points. DNQs for trucks are Lupton, Davis, Kraus, Murphy 29. Yeet posted: 11.15.2019 - 4:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @28 thanks 30. Canadianfan posted: 11.15.2019 - 5:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @29 No problem, that's why I'm here. 31. Dion posted: 11.15.2019 - 5:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) You gotta feel bad for Lupton. He was 10th in practice and DNQ because owners points. 32. Jared posted: 11.15.2019 - 5:25 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) What a shame. If only 36 trucks were still allowed to race everyone would make the field 33. Anonymous posted: 11.15.2019 - 7:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) A lot of very good cars DNQed. Davis, Kraus, and Dylan Lupton surprisingly DNQed because of the weather. 34. PucciMan posted: 11.15.2019 - 7:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm pulling for Chastain to win the championship. He lost his Xfinity ride because of the FBI raided their sponsor and he's been pulling triple duty for most of the races this year. 35. Maverick19 posted: 11.15.2019 - 7:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) What time does it look like it will start? 36. Anthony posted: 11.15.2019 - 8:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) In an hour most likely 37. ThatGuy posted: 11.15.2019 - 8:08 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) They're acknowledging Joe breaking the record tonight with #1,186 38. Sector posted: 11.15.2019 - 8:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) With this qualifying rainout, Brett Moffitt clinches the pole award for the 2019 season of the Truck series, breaking the tiebreaker from Austin Hill & Matt Crafton (each has 3 poles) with 3 second place starts of the season. Hill has 0 and Crafton has 1 seconds. 39. Osas posted: 11.15.2019 - 8:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Anyone but 45 and 88 40. Corey posted: 11.15.2019 - 8:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @37 Joe broke it at Phoenix with start #1185. They acknowledged it with a trophy at the driver's meeting today. 41. Canadianfan posted: 11.15.2019 - 8:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Engines Fired in 30 minutes. 42. Corey posted: 11.15.2019 - 9:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Line up was set by owners points and because of that, the Top 4 teams were tied with 4,000 apiece. The tiebreaker was best finishing positions in the Round of 6. 1st: #52 Win at Phoenix 2nd: #51 2nd at Phoenix, 3rd at Talladega 3rd: #45 2nd at Martinsville, 9th at Phoenix 4th: #24 4th at Talladega. Championship participant Matt Crafton's #88 failed to make the owner's playoffs and is the reason he starts 9th. 43. ThatGuy posted: 11.15.2019 - 9:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @39 why do you feel that way? 44. Dave33333 posted: 11.15.2019 - 9:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @43 Might have to do with Crafton's former dominance and Chastain's toxic fanbase. 45. Corey posted: 11.15.2019 - 9:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Anthony Alfredo and the #15 are already behind the wall with an oil leak. He won't see the green flag tonight. 46. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.15.2019 - 9:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ross Chastain jumps to the early lead 47. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.15.2019 - 9:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Battle for the lead has been very hard in this race, better than most recent Cup races tbh. Chastain has been able to hold off Friesen for an entire stage despite multiple attempts by Friesen to get the lead away. 48. Bayne&BowmanFan posted: 11.15.2019 - 10:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Austin Hill quietly up to third place and is closing. His team won this race last year with Brett Moffitt as the driver. 49. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.15.2019 - 10:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Austin Hill takes the lead on the last lap of the stage and wins Stage 1 over Chastain. That car looks as good as what they brought for Moffitt's championship run last year. 50. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.15.2019 - 10:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Moffitt leads the Championship 4 1-2-3-4 off pit road 51. Bayne&BowmanFan posted: 11.15.2019 - 10:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Parker Kligerman started 27th, but finished stage one in 11th. 52. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.15.2019 - 10:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Chastain goes 3-wide for second, now takes the lead away from Moffitt off Turn 4 to reclaim the lead he lost in Stage 1. Crafton gets up to them both after a close battle to the line, then passes the 24 for second place. 53. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.15.2019 - 10:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hill to the lead after moving up from 6th due to a slow pit stop 54. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.15.2019 - 10:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ray Cicarelli has smoke trailing his car, caution is out 55. 34McDowellFan posted: 11.15.2019 - 10:17 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) The 49 blowing up is the first non-stage caution for the Truck Series at Homestead in the era of Stage Racing 56. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.15.2019 - 10:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Chastain spins the tires on the restart! Hill leads 57. Highside posted: 11.15.2019 - 10:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) I love how the FS1 booth was praising Bohn earlier because of Martinsville but he's been around 25th-30th all night in a Truck that Brennan Poole would easily be top 10 with right now. 58. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.15.2019 - 10:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Moffitt with a little bit of right side damage. Hill sweeps the stages tonight by holding off Crafton on the late stage restart. 59. ThatGuy posted: 11.15.2019 - 10:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If Ben Rhodes has a ride at ThorSport, Parker Kligerman deserves a ride at ThorSport or KBM or GMS. If Niece is as good as this year, I'd like to see him replace Chastain but to my knowledge Kligerman doesn't bring any sponsorship for a top ride 60. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.15.2019 - 10:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Crafton looking for his third Truck championship, which would be tied for second most all time with Jack Sprague Leader off pit road was Austin Hill 61. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.15.2019 - 10:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Eckes, Rhodes, and Gilliland stay out under caution, the 51 inherits the lead and is in front in the owner's playoffs 62. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.15.2019 - 10:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Eckes jumps away on the start. Gilliland immediately drops back, Crafton and Hill fighting over third. 63. RandomFacts posted: 11.15.2019 - 10:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) All time stage winners through the 2019 season. Kyle Busch - 18 Johnney Sauter - 15 Noah Gragson - 12 Christopher Bell - 11 Ben Rhodes - 10 Grant Enfinger - 10 Stewart Friesen - 9 Brett Moffity - 8 Ross Chastain - 7 John Hunter Nemechek - 6 Matt Crafton - 6 Chase Briscoe - 5 Ryan Truex - 3 Sheldon Creed - 3 Todd Gilliland - 2 Harrison Burton - 2 Brandon Jones - 2 Austin Hill- 2 Chase Elliott - 1 Austin Cindric - 1 David Gilliland - 1 Christian Eckes - 1 Justin Haley - 1 Myatt Snider - 1 Sam Mayer - 1 64. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.15.2019 - 10:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Crafton and Friesen battling it out for the title 65. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.15.2019 - 10:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ross Chastain has been unable to recover from spinning the tires or missing the shift, whatever it was, on that late stage 2 restart, he remains back in the 7th position. Hill to the lead. 66. Karl posted: 11.15.2019 - 10:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 40 to go 67. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.15.2019 - 10:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gus Dean inherits the lead as Hill makes his final pit stop, the likely inheritor of the lead after he, Decker, and Anderson pit will be Crafton 68. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.15.2019 - 10:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Crafton to the lead at 30 to go after Gus Dean comes to the pits, he'll lead Eckes, Hill, and Moffitt. Eckes and the #51 lead the owner's title race, Crafton looking to win his third title. 69. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Crafton hasn't won a race since Eldora 2017. 70. Wil posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:02 pm Rate this comment: (5) (0) This is moronic. 71. George_Costanza posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:02 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) I thought it was bad when Austin Dillon won the Nationwide championship in 2013 without winning. It's been 2 1/2 years since Crafton won, and he's running second. 72. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hill to the lead, he'll begin to pull away. Crafton now looking at being the first winless champion since Austin Dillon's 2013 Xfinity title, and the first winless Truck champion. 73. Maverick19 posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:06 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) Please let Crafton win (without winning). Maybe we'll have a new system. 74. Zach posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:06 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) A caution would be nice right now. 75. Clint posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:07 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Boo-urns, Boo-urns this package sucks royally 76. E-Rick95 posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I don't even understand how the other 3 guys are so much slower 77. Corey posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The entire Truck season has been crazy as far as the championship is concerned. It's only fitting the champion wins without winning a race. 78. jensenators posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:11 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) @73: Seeing the system implode would be great. This system was supposed to eliminate "Consistancy Champions", and Be a "closer battle then normal points". The truck champ would be winless, and by normal full season points 5 drivers would be eligable to win the cup championship instead of 4. 79. TeamDCRfan posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Probably unlikely, but a possible hypothetical situation: Crafton gets the title, but then is found to have an illegal truck 80. RandomFacts posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 6 first time winners in the 2019 season Austin Hill Ross Chastain Tyler Ankrum Stewart Friesen Spencer Boyd Todd Gilliland 81. TeamDCRfan posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I just now noticed Roper is racing 82. Clint posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:13 pm Rate this comment: (11) (3) By every metric crafton doesn't deserve this title. Nascar is officially wrestling now where championships are just props. The playoff system is admission that theyre sports entertainment and not pure sports 83. George_Costanza posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:14 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) FS1 keeps showing a graphic on the screen on the top finisher in each race amongst the Championship Four. Moffitt - 10 Chastain - 6 Friesen - 5 Crafton - 1 Guess which one is about to win a championship? I'm not going to even remember this championship by next season. Just doesn't feel right. 84. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hill wins the race, Crafton wins the championhsip, Eckes's #51 wins the owner title. 85. Altracing posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm not blaming the playoff system like most of the trolls/idiots on this site, but I still hate the fact that we have another winless champion 86. Dion posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:15 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Crafton pulls an Austin Dillon, wins title with zero wins. 87. Maverick19 posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:16 pm Rate this comment: (2) (2) j o k e 88. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:16 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @79 If anyone's car is illegal, I hope it's Hill. 89. Ryan posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:17 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Crazy. This would be almost like the equivalent if Ryan Newman would have won the Cup championship in 2014. Their stats look similar. Kudos to Crafton though. Before the race he said he felt he should be the favorite considering his past winning championships. The guy hasn't won a race on asphalt since the Obama administration. He's won a race in a Chevrolet and a Toyota, won a championship in a Toyota and a Ford and has never even won a race in a Ford. Amazing. Flawed system? Yes. 90. Edwards2020 posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:18 pm Rate this comment: (4) (1) I like Crafton, but he didn't deserve this championship. He was the worst of the final four. I hope this shows why NASCAR needs to get rid of this playoff format 91. George_Costanza posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:18 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Lol Crafton has led more than 8 laps in one race this season. 92. Corey posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) A winless driver wins the championship while the race winner wins his 4th of the season. 93. SeanS posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Welp. Kudos to Hill for grabbing the win. Honestly more impressed in that than Crafton getting the championship... Wonder if this is a sign of things to come where the most underrated driver breaks through and gets the championships this weekend. 94. TeamDCRfan posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) To bad that one boneheaded guy ain't here saying it's rigged that a Ford won the championship in the Ford 200 95. PucciMan posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:20 pm Rate this comment: (1) (2) This was a terrible race. Not only Crafton won the championship, it was also a boring race. I hope NASCAR will drop Homestead after 2020. 96. TheDewCrew posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (3) For my entire life, I never saw my favorite driver in any of the top 3 series win the championship. And as it closes in on midnight, on November 15, 2019, I finally saw that dream become reality. Congratulations Matt Crafton! 97. Osas posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) I might have rooted against him for a majority of the night, but it's great to see the old fella still got it! Awesome job 88 team! 98. HammannFan74 posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And the championship is over folks. I was surprised Crafton even made the final four considering these past two seasons. 99. Ryan posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I believe it's safe to say that Ross Chastain choked this one away. They say you have to lose one before you can win one, though. In most cases. 100. Trent posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:21 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) AHHHHH YES congrats Matt Crafton!!! 101. Bayne&BowmanFan posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:21 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Well, congrats regardless to Crafton, Junior Joiner, and that whole team. The playoff system is, and you can't say they didn't play the system to a championship. 102. RyanM posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:22 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) 0 wins 7 top fives <100 laps led What a joke of a champion. 103. Clint posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:23 pm Rate this comment: (5) (1) All these playoff systems do long term is reduce the impact of winning a championship. What they award and how they award it is simply not a season long championship 104. Sector posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) So Kyle Busch wins yet another Owner's championship with Christian Eckes finishing 3rd? 105. Zach posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Why is Homestead such a clean track for trucks now? Looking at the stats, there hasn't been a single crash at Homestead since 2015. Not saying it's a bad thing. It's just strange. 106. Sector posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I was out tonight so I didn't watch this sadly, did I miss anything exciting? 107. TeamDCRfan posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hey, Natalie had an incident free race 108. Altracing posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) People who agree with 82 just prove my point about how pathetic this site has become with these trolls 109. TeamDCRfan posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:24 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) 106 Nope 110. Zach posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:27 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) @107 Still couldn't even finish on the lead lap though. Pathetic. 111. RandomFacts posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) All time winning truck numbers through the 2019 season #16 - 45 wins #51 - 45 wins #2 - 36 wins #24 - 34 wins #18 - 31 wins #3 - 29 wins #33 - 29 wins #30 - 24 wins #4 - 22 wins #1 - 21 wins #99 - 19 wins #6 - 18 wins #50 - 16 wins #88 - 15 wins #23 - 15 wins #17 - 15 wins #5 - 13 wins #29 - 13 wins #46 - 13 wins #21 - 13 wins #62 - 9 wins #19 - 8 wins #60 - 8 wins #9 - 8 wins #98 - 8 wins #13 - 7 wins #31 - 6 wins #8 - 6 wins #7 - 5 wins #80 - 5 wins #14 - 5 wins #75 - 5 wins #15 - 5 wins #54 - 5 wins #11 - 4 wins #00 - 3 wins #45 - 3 wins #52 - 3 wins #84 - 2 wins #86 - 2 wins #43 - 2 wins #04 - 2 wins #22 - 2 wins #25 - 2 wins #27 - 2 wins #48 - 1 win #61 - 1 win #44 - 1 win #87 - 1 win #66 - 1 win #47 - 1 win #38 - 1 win #10 - 1 win #71 - 1 win #39 - 1 win #94 - 1 win #34 - 1 win #05 - 1 win #41 - 1 win #20 - 1 win 112. ThatGuy posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:31 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @90 Did Logano winning the 2018 Cup not prove that? Or Harvick in 2014? I won't mention Busch in 2015 because we know that. How bout Jimmie in 2016? Reddick last year, Moffitt last year, Byron in 2017. Let's not forget Crafton avoided 5 wrecks at Daytona and still had a shot to win, he had a great truck at Vegas and had a parts issue, had a great truck at Martinsville and had a parts issue, at Talladega Friesen, Ankrum and Moffitt benefitted HUGE from a caution with 15/16(?) to go. Lastly, at Texas 2 if anybody other than Biffle or Kyle Busch was in that 51, Crafton would've won that race 113. Jason24 posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Awesome race for Crafton! Look at all these "fans" whining about the result. NASCAR fans suck. 114. MattL posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Altracing, I don't think a difference of opinion is necessarily trolling. If you look at the statistics Crafton's season long points, laps led, & top tens aren't the best in any category. 115. Mannoroth posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 104. Yep. It's pretty funny, because Kyle Busch's 5 wins didn't count for Owners' Championship standings, so that truck had to count on Greg Biffle's win at Texas, which made sure that truck will be in the playoffs and guess what - that truck made it winless all the way to the Final Four, scored a 3rd place finish at Homestead and because #88 wasn't in the Final Four of the Owners' Championship, Kyle Busch Motorsports wins their 7th Owners' Championship in 10 years of existence. So basically, Kyle Busch only helped by scoring a lot of points early in the season, but couldn't help with playoff points that are pretty necessary for advancing to the next rounds, if you encounter any problems. 116. Ryan posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:36 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) The closest Michael Waltrip has ever got to a championship trophy 117. Anonymous posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:36 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) @108 Why do you consider anyone who disagrees with you or with how the series is run a "troll"? Very strange. Playoffs do not work for stock car racing, period. It's amazing how the popularity explosion of the 1990s led directly to NASCAR thinking that if they just made the series MORE like the NFL, they would become more popular than football. How can anyone misunderstand their own popularity and fans that much? It boggles the mind. Too late to fix it now. 118. Ryan posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The next thing we'll be hearing is that Matt Crafton is Hall of Fame worthy. Wow. Just wow. 119. ThatGuy posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @110 to be fairrr...none of her teammates finished on the lead lap, only 13 drivers did. Plus, she finished ahead of Ankrum again 120. TeamDCRfan posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:40 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Front Row Joe gets a good finish. I think this is only the 3rd or 4th race this season where he had the funding to go the distance 121. Altracing posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm just ticked off that so many people are complaining more and more these last few weeks on this site. And I'm not saying everyone on this site is a troll there are a number of good posters here and people have a right to their opinions. But when it's the same people who complain during the races daily that's what ticks me off the most. 122. Jason24 posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:43 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @121. It is sad. This proves that NASCAR's struggles are not 100% on them. How can you ever satisfy such a whiny fanbase? A fanbase that will never be happy. 123. MattL posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) One stat that I found interesting is Crafton has the highest RAF this season, which feels very different from the laundry list of problems the #88 had this season. Despite such an inconsistent season, he was the most likely to be running at the checkered flag. 124. ThatGuy posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If Eckes didn't get dumped on the last lap at Gateway, and finished 3rd or better he would've finished 19th in the standings this year, ahead of Natalie Decker. Who had 11 more races (That's just Gateway, you can talk about Daytona or Michigan when he wrecked or spun) 125. Zach posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @119 She finished ahead of Ankrum. So what? He got damage early and his truck was off the pace the rest of the race. Don't sit here and try to pretend that Natalie actually out drove Ankrum. Also, Alfredo didn't even get a chance to start the race, so he would've easily finished ahead of her too. 126. Anthony2 posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) So disappointed that Ross didn't win the championship. It pisses me off in a way, but at the same time happy for Crafton. Matt Crafton is the Terry Labonte of the Trucks Series. Two drivers who don't have 25 career wins, but one thing they have the right to say is that they're multi-time champions & that's what matters. And let's face it guys, Chastain is not the face of the Trucks series, Chastain was only here to be competitive & race for wins. Chastain will dominate the Xfinity Series next year & I'm calling it out right now! Chastain is going to be awesome for this sport because of how much of wheel man he is, he's going to do great things for many years to come because he's one of the best we have in this sport because of his fan base, his on track performance, his talent. So again, congrats to Crafton even though he'a still on that long winless streak, but nonetheless, he did what he needed to do & that's what counts. 127. FoMoCo posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Ben Kennedy sounds like he's been smoking some green. 128. Anonymous posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) YESSSSS Crafton won. Haters are going to hate. 129. Anonymous posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:56 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) "NASCAR fans suck." I haven't been a fan of NASCAR since like 2012. Your statement is accurate, though lol. From the #2 sport in the country to a sport in obvious rapid decline which anyone can see with their own eyes except the rabid group of teenage fans online who are too young to remember when NASCAR was actually good. Imagine someone who loved this sport back then seeing what it is now. It's frustrating and very sad. Sorry we bother you so much. 130. Anonymous posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The thumbs down button is the worst thing to ever happen to this website and that's saying something. 131. Anonymous posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:56 pm Rate this comment: (3) (2) @121 What are we supposed to be happy with? A lackluster race and the weakest champion in the sport's history? Come on, dude. 132. 1995-Subaru-WRX-Sti posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If people are salty about winless champions then stop using points systems that can have a remote chance of it happening. The fact that in this decade we have had 2 says something about points systems as a whole. 133. GiveMajeskiAChance posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:56 pm Rate this comment: (1) (2) Completely undeserved. If Hill had still been here, I could live with him being champ since he won multiple races. But Crafton hasn't even contended for wins all year. 134. NotSure posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuoToHKCas4 135. Corey posted: 11.15.2019 - 11:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Let this sink in. Natalie Decker got beat by a teammate, whose races used to last just 5 seconds. 136. Jason24 posted: 11.16.2019 - 12:02 am Rate this comment: (2) (1) @131. Ok? Is that Crafton's fault? Or NASCAR? Maybe the "more deserving" drivers should have bothered to show up tonight. They were all out to lunch, Chastain showed promise early and faded. Moffitt was never a contender. Friesen also faded late. This is why I hate NASCAR fans. Never happy, always something to cry about. @133 The site idiot is back. Great, thanks for proving my point about NASCAR fans. 137. Corey posted: 11.16.2019 - 12:06 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) @132 And yet, the two winless champions came by different systems. Crafton's came with the playoffs, Austin Dillon won his using the season long method. Yeah, know, the method people want in place. 138. Corey posted: 11.16.2019 - 12:18 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Matt Crafton gave Ford only their second driver's championship in the Truck series. The first came with Greg Biffle and Roush Racing in 2000. Crafton's two other championships came with Toyota. 139. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.16.2019 - 12:50 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @132 Are you saying that Austin Dillon legitimately outpointing Sam Hornish Jr. in 2013 is an "undeserving champion?" If you score the most points in a season, you should be the season champion, and therefore I say, Brett Moffitt was robbed of a title tonight. 140. wisconsinracefan posted: 11.16.2019 - 1:14 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) 1995-Subaru-WRX-Sti, The Xfinity series did not a playoff system in 2013 and there was nothing wrong with the points system that year for the Xfinity series. You are ignoring the rules NASCAR had in play in 2013 for the Xfinity Series and that what caused the winless championship. In 2013 prevented cup regulars to become lower series champions, but NASCAR did not have a limit on how many races a cup regular could run in the Xfinity series and the truck series that year. What created the Dillon mess was Roger Penske. Roger in 2013 wanted an owners championship and a drivers championship. The car that went after the owners championship took championship points away from Sam Hornish Jr. The fact was Sam lost to Austin Dillon by 3 points. The fact is back in 2013 only 4 races were won by Xfinity series regulars and another 3 by drivers that were not cup regulars that year, but were not going for the Xfinity series Championship. NASCAR after the 2010 season finally got sick of cup regulars win what is now the Xfinity series championship and thought by having cup regulars not owning points that years was going to discourage cup drivers from running so many races. 141. Canadianfan posted: 11.16.2019 - 1:14 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) From Pockrass. Tech in truck garage complete. No issues. Crafton is champ. AHill race winner. KBM51 owners title. All pending engine tear down is Saturday. A few trucks had one lug missing/not secure (a fine). 142. Sector posted: 11.16.2019 - 1:59 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Webmaster: The Final Four were given points where they don't receive Stage points. 143. Sector posted: 11.16.2019 - 2:07 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) So people are whining because Crafton only won zero times, yet completely ignore the fact that he was just as good as Moffitt, Chastain, Friesen, & Enfinger. All five drivers had a 8.5 to 8.8 average finish of the 2019 season. Get over yourselves. 144. DB1995 posted: 11.16.2019 - 2:26 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Has to be the ?weakest? championship season in truck history, no wins and only led 44 laps all season. Only led over 10 laps in a race once and that was 11 laps at Kentucky. Oh well, congrats Crafton, even if your Ford does have a chevy engine in it 145. Anon posted: 11.16.2019 - 2:27 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Not that it matters, but in my scoring system, Moffitt wins the championship by 57 points over Chastain (closer than it sounds), with Friesen finishing 3rd, Enfinger 4th, Crafton 5th, and Hill 6th. Friesen's earlier DQ would've ended up having no bearing on his finishing spot as he would have remained in 3rd. Chastain's earlier DQ, however, would've ended up costing him the championship in my format. Having said that, congrats to Crafton on the driver's championship, and Eckes/team for the owner's championship. 146. JonahHeston posted: 11.16.2019 - 2:27 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm confused, how is Crafton the champion if Chastain had one more point due to stage points? 147. Yeet posted: 11.16.2019 - 2:27 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @110 her teammates didn't finish on the lead lap either. Are they considered pathetic then? 148. JFM01 posted: 11.16.2019 - 2:27 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) There is a mistake in the standings. The final 4 didn't score stage points. 149. JFM01 posted: 11.16.2019 - 2:47 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) A race without any trouble for the 8 truck. 150. Maverick19 posted: 11.16.2019 - 3:28 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) ?So people are whining because Crafton only won zero times, yet completely ignore the fact that he was just as good as Moffitt, Chastain, Friesen, & Enfinger. All five drivers had a 8.5 to 8.8 average finish of the 2019 season. Get over yourselves.? For me it's the 44 laps led and 7 top 5's. Not winning is one thing, not even sniffing a win is another... And Christopher Bell has 9.2 average finish, Gragson 9.5. Are you really going to argue that they are equal? 151. RaceFanX posted: 11.16.2019 - 4:38 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) He was in contention and almost won tonight. 152. Wil posted: 11.16.2019 - 5:10 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) @143 Fans have a right to be mad that the champion of a series won 0 races, was a comical p16 in terms of laps led and led fewer laps than Brandon Jones (!) who made 5 starts. Telling people who think this is a problem to "get over yourselves" is immature, especially when their point is statistically valid. 153. Mile501 posted: 11.16.2019 - 5:56 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) How things would be different if Kyle Busch didn't win those 5 truck races earlier this year... -- Final Playoff Standings -- 1. Ross Chastain 4033 2. Brett Moffitt 4032 (-1) 3. Johnny Sauter 4031 (-2) 4. Stewart Friesen 4026 (-7) (For more details on how points were calculated, see comment #112 in the comments for the Las Vegas race.) 154. Mile501 posted: 11.16.2019 - 6:11 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) It is worth noting how agonizingly close Austin Hill came to winning the championship. If he'd only finished several spots higher at Phoenix, or if he hadn't crashed out at Martinsville...he would have made the final four and would have been the champion. Regarding Crafton, someone mentioned that he leads in the RAF category...he also leads in the LLF category, finishing on the lead lap in 20 of 23 races. He finished 2 laps down at Kentucky, 8 laps down at Martinsville, and his only DNF was the engine failure at Las Vegas. 155. Mile501 posted: 11.16.2019 - 6:14 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Had he been running for points all year, Ross Chastain would have ended the season 3rd in the full-season standings with 878 points, 29 behind point leader Brett Moffitt and 4 behind runner-up Grant Enfinger. 156. German500 posted: 11.16.2019 - 7:08 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) That a driver can win a championship just because of reliability, without even winning a race, is not new. Tom Sneva proved that in 1978 and Tony Bettenhausen in 1958. Both in USAC Championship without playoff gimmick. In 1958, even second driver George Amick had no win. 157. Mile501 posted: 11.16.2019 - 7:35 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Matt Crafton's Ranking in various categories in 2019: Wins - tied for 11th Top 5s - tied for 5th Top 10s - tied for 2nd Poles - tied for 1st Laps Completed - 3rd Laps Led - 16th Average Start - 2nd Average Finish - 4th Running at Finish - 1st Lead Lap Finishes - 1st Points Earned - 4th 158. Scott25 posted: 11.16.2019 - 7:50 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I don't care how many wins someone has, I just want to see the best driver crowned champion. This season it was obviously Moffitt and Chastain. The problem is the system, not Matt Crafton. The one race takes all format is utter nonsense and 15 years from now the mid-2010's champions of NASCAR will have asterisks beside their names. Even the times when the best driver actually won like 2014 and 2017 in Cup. 159. TheDewCrew posted: 11.16.2019 - 8:26 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) Chastain always felt like the underdog. He ran all the races, but didn't get credited for points until the June Texas race. Credit to his team, where it's due, they knew what they had to do to make the playoffs, and they got the job done, and I'm proud of that team, but most of all I'm proud of Chastain. That man's gone to hell and back, since this time last year, and he's battled through so much adversity, that if he had won, I don't think there would be a mad fan in the house. But, in sports you can't be 2nd best, and expect to win it all. I always thought since Daytona, that the champion would be Moffitt, Crafton, or Enfinger. Enfinger learned sad truth of the system. No matter how many points you've got, wins almost always mean more. Moffitt was my pick for the championship, but like Sauter last year, he learned the hard way that you can have a great first 22 races, but if you don't bring your best to the ball, you're going home empty-handed. I never thought Friesen deserving. He won at unpredictable Eldora, and nearly lost Phoenix. He just seemed there, not really doing much, just jumping in, where he felt he could. Last night he couldn't. Crafton, my favorite truck driver Crafton, what do I have in store for you? You don't deserve the hate. If you want to blame someone take your things to Daytona, and Charlotte. Blame them. They've still left Brian France's fingerprints on this format. NASCAR's responded better to change lately, so if enough of our cases are heard, maybe they'll change, and could see what's best to do. But, back to Crafton. He didn't write the rules, NASCAR did, he was just doing his job. However, it feels like the entire NASCAR community is out to get Crafton fans, like they do Elliott fans (Gosh dang it. How do I find myself in these situations, where I'm a hated minority?). Crafton showed us something, or he showed us something we'd seen before, but turned a blind eye to. He was consistent, gathering his points. He waited in the wings, and at the end of the day his team played all the right cards. But, they're still undeserving, you say? Doesn't this seem like Jimmie Johnson, and Chad Knaus from 2006-2010? They may not have been the best some years, but they waited and saved their best stuff until the end. They both knew, they could run 70% through the regular season, then turn on the jets late. They're just playing the system, which is what they're paid to do, go out, and if you play the system right, you get the big trophy, at the end 160. TheDewCrew posted: 11.16.2019 - 8:58 am Rate this comment: (1) (1) Also, I hate address likes. But, I see my comment 96, has two downvotes. I was just trying to Express my happiness, that after 14 years as a fan, I finally got to experience, my favorite driver in a series win. However, I can't really enjoy it, because of people calling him undeserving. Anyways I'm ready for the downvotes. Have a nice day everyone 161. Bayne&BowmanFan posted: 11.16.2019 - 9:35 am Rate this comment: (2) (0) 158, there is no reliable system to consistently give the "best" driver the championship. Many people have referenced Austin Dillon's championship, under the season-long points format. Crafton is the example of this format. One way or another, someone will be screwed by a format, regardless of what format it is. We have to admit that Chastain did really well in the midstretch of the season, Moffitt poured it on in the playoffs, and Friesen did really well at ISM last week. But when it all counted, they couldn't do what they needed to do to win the championship. Hill would've won the whole thing had he made it to Homestead, but they didn't come through when it mattered for them, at Martinsville and ISM. Crafton & co. did what they had to do throughout the season. He pointed his way into the playoffs, survived each round, and brought winning speed to Homestead, something that his other three competitors can't say they did. Call it screwed up or call him undeserving, but the reason he's a champion is because he pulled a 10-second gap on all of his competitors when it mattered most. @129, You can call me a rabid teenager because I've only been watching since 2011. I won't argue I'm right or say I'm knowledgeable about the "good ole days"--which, by the way, I'm certain no one knew were the "good ole days" back then--but because I single-handedly have no influence on anything, I'm going to choose to enjoy the racing, and if there's an undesirable champion, so be it; life still goes on. Sports is in the entertainment industry, so instead of whining about how pointless everything in life is, I'm going to choose to enjoy it, because I'm a spectator, and how can I possibly know who is truly most deserving when I watch from my couch? You are all welcome to critique the system, or the driver, or NASCAR, or whatever, but I'm going to try to enjoy what I have now, because sooner or later, these will be the "good ole days". 162. Fred posted: 11.16.2019 - 9:35 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) If they really want to avoid having a winless champion, NASCAR could make the last race like it was another playoffs round. In other words, playoff points apply, but if one of the Championship 4 drivers wins, they are automatically crowned champion. This might be a little too complicated, though, and nobody wants to see a championship decided by stage points. 163. Yeet posted: 11.16.2019 - 10:03 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) The one thing I can't stand from a fan is an unvalid reason to complain like the very popular poor opinion that "NASCAR is rigged for JGR and Toyota" or the seat counters. However, I believe a winless champion is a valid reason to complain. Maybe NASCAR will answer your concerns in the coming season(s) if enough noise is made in opposition to the playoffs. 164. Anon posted: 11.16.2019 - 10:23 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @158 using Dillon's championship is a bad example considering there were only 4 wins for regulars all season. There are multiple people on here, myself included, that have created formats that are better than anything that has ever been used, it can be done. Also, for what it's worth, Hornish wins that championship over Dillon using most "good" formats. 165. ThatGuy posted: 11.16.2019 - 10:32 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) Seems like a lot of people forgot so I'll remind them: Brett Moffitt has 1 truck chanpionship like he "deserves" If Matt Crafton, racing under the same rules as everybody else (not a big fan of the argument myself) doesn't deserve this championship (where he was top 4 ALL YEAR, 5th if you count Chastain with a full season of points) than Brett Moffitt certainly didn't deserve (which I firmly believe he didn't) his 2018 title. I'm not liking the hate towards Crafton. To me this is better than Logano stealing the 2018 Cup. I know, I know, Matt had 0 wins. But this isn't the first time this system gave the championship to someone with a worse season than at least 1 other. Gordon was robbed in 2014, Harvick in 2015 & 2016, Kyle Busch in 2018, Sauter in 2018 (Gragson also deserved it more), Bell, Allgaier, Hemric and Sadler all deserved the 2018 xfinity title more than Reddick (how bout that, Salder & Hemric who BOTH had 0 wins), Sadler in 2017, and I believe Erik Jones in 2016 166. slowbird posted: 11.16.2019 - 11:54 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm just happy someone finally pulled off the zero-wins championship like Newman almost did in Cup. Can't wait to see how they "tweak" the rules to prevent this going forward. 167. slowbird posted: 11.16.2019 - 11:54 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) And a Parker Kligerman top-10, and Joe Nemecheck running the whole race! Nice. 168. JeremyIsley posted: 11.16.2019 - 11:54 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) Natalie Decker is your 2019 LASTCAR champion. (Gus Dean, Norm Benning, and Josh Reaume were the other final 4 drivers) 169. JFM01 posted: 11.16.2019 - 12:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @168 No,Joe Nemechek is the LASTCAR champion. 170. wisconsinracefan posted: 11.16.2019 - 1:04 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Thatguy, It was deeper than Matt having zero wins. Matt before Homestead had his last top 5 on June 7th and that meant it Matt didn't have a top 5 in 13 straight races. What happened here was Matt was good enough to avoid trouble for most of the season, but not good enough to get a top 5 for most of the 2nd half of the season. Matt took advantage of a flawed playoff system and the talent pool for drivers and teams. I do think there is a depth problem for the tuck series and also has inconsistent drivers. Austin Hill is an Inconsistent driver because he average a 12.6 finish despite 4 wins. I pointing this series as one that does not have the things needed for the potential playoff system format to work. 171. Sector posted: 11.16.2019 - 1:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) #152 There is nothing immature about it. As Mile501 once says, wins doesn't tell the whole story. You can't have it both ways; Matt Kenseth, Benny Parsons, etc in Cup doesn't deserve the championship. Or Tony Stewart beating Carl Edwards in an intense battle in 2011 with only 9 Top 5. Or People wanting Carl Edwards to win it in 2016 because he failed to win it two times before (2008 & 2011) and he only had 9 Top 5. Is A.J. Foyt a fake champion in IROC because he never won a single race during his two back to back championships seasons? Should Kyle Larson not be the 2012 K&N Pro East champion because he only led 64 laps? I had no problem if you disagreed but since you said it; If anyone is immature, it's you Wil. Everyone knew Crafton had a shot to win it. And because he did, it's raining tears from everyone's eyeballs. You only criticize people when the comment isn't to your agreement. Oh yeah, Crafton scored the 4th most points, (5th had Chastain raced for points the first handful of races instead of for Xfinity). Harvick was 5th in 2014 when he won his title. Stewart 2011 was too. I should have said "get over yourselves." The better term is "stop being so narrow-minded." 172. Anthony posted: 11.16.2019 - 1:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Trucks should not have the elimination style playoffs. The playoffs do not award consistency. 7 Race chase format would fit this series better. 173. 52 posted: 11.16.2019 - 1:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) She's the LASTCAR Champion in my heart. 174. Sector posted: 11.16.2019 - 1:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I should have said "get over yourselves."" Should have not* #172 So far the only differences between the two formats as for who scored the most points and won the championships are Johnny Sauter losing one and Matt Crafton gaining one. Both are series regulars too. 175. Maverick19 posted: 11.16.2019 - 1:47 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) Sector, this playoff format is the one thing I feel very strongly about so I'd be willing to debate this to the very end. Crafton was T-10th in wins, T-5th in Top 5's, and 16th in laps led. To be that distant in the three biggest statistical categories is a black mark for this system. In the system I calculate on the side he finishes four races behind. And since you mentioned Kenseth in 2003, Stewart in 2011, Benny Parsons 1973, Harvick in 2014 and Carl Edwards in 2016, I feel that none of them were the best drivers in their respective year. Oh and don't even bring up IROC lol, with 4 races that's way too small of a sample size. Champions are supposed to reward the best driver of the year, and imagine thinking that Crafton or Reddick last year did that. I'm sorry that tears are draining from my eyeballs, because this system is killing the sport I love. And judging by the ratings, it seems that it's done the same for many others. 176. Maverick19 posted: 11.16.2019 - 1:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) It's also worth noting that I'm in favor of an F1 style points system where he majority of points go to the top positions. But that's not going to happen. 177. jamie_e posted: 11.16.2019 - 2:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (3) I find it funny that nascar created the chase to mostly prevent winless champions, and yet Crafton still manages to pull it off. 178. Dale88 posted: 11.16.2019 - 2:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Penske needs to complain again, that's the only way the system will change 179. Jason24 posted: 11.16.2019 - 4:06 pm Rate this comment: (3) (1) Its worth pointing out that Grant Enfinger was runner-up in season long points by just 39 points to Moffitt. So the season long points aren't that much better than some of you guys make it seem. NASCAR changed the points after 2003 when people complained but NASCAR fans love to complain. Always will no matter what. If Crafton had 10 wins people would be calling him a cheater just like you see with JGR now and Hendrick back when they were winning. Its a lose lose with this awful fanbase. Like I said before you can't satisfy these "fans" ever, can't blame NASCAR for that. 180. Maverick19 posted: 11.16.2019 - 4:14 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I'll take a 39 point mundane title victory knowing the guy in first ran well on year than manufactured game 7 moments. Also going to point out that the 1975-2003 system wasn't great either, i posted my ideal system in 176. ?NASCAR fans love to complain. Always will no matter what.? I really hope you are paying attention to the usernames involved with people complaining. I might be complaining about the playoffs, but I'm laughing so hard at the people that get upset over Toyota. Of course people are always going to complain, because some people will be happy at some outcomes and an entire different group of people won't. Duh... 181. Maverick19 posted: 11.16.2019 - 4:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Since I figured out what your first point meant: I don't like the stage point system either, Enfinger in 2nd Logano having the lead into the final race this year shows how flawed it is. Once again, IndyCar/F1 has the best system and until that happens here I'm just not going to take any championships seriously anymore. 182. Sector posted: 11.16.2019 - 7:11 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) #175 This isn't the only time Matt Crafton won the championship like this. 87 laps led with only 1 win and 7 Top 5 in 2013. He also has 18 Top 10 in 23 starts in 2019, one less than his 19 back in 2013. Average finishes is another major category among full timers. If people are okay with Brett Moffitt winning with an 8.8 average finish, than Matt Crafton should be no different with his 8.8 average finish too. Rusty Wallace once said in his retirement season in Cup back in 2005; "You don't need to win a race to win the championship." That's exactly what Matt Crafton proved. This debate questions this; If a driver finishes second without leading a single lap for 22 races in Truck, while a driver wins 10 times, but DNF's the other 12 races with over 1,000 laps led, who is truly more deserving of a championship at the 23rd race? Most would look at wins, some would look at consistency. 183. Sector posted: 11.16.2019 - 7:32 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) #179 I was looking over the years and as you pointed out Grant Enfinger, being winless and second in season long points, I also wanted to point out 2009. Ron Hornaday led 1,091 laps, with 6 wins. Only one driver was within 350 points of the standings; Interestingly Matt Crafton was second with 0 wins and only 99 laps led. Ron had 6.4 average finish and Matt had 6.7. Matt Crafton indeed has an interesting career in the Truck series. His 2019 championship is another evidence of it. 184. ThatGuy posted: 11.16.2019 - 9:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @170 Honestly, as I mentioned, I don't like the system because it's robbed champions in favor of more deserving drivers. Crafton was top 5 or better all year. To play devil's advocate, he had 2 top 5s taken away with Vegas & Martinsville, he had bad breaks at Atlanta, Eldora, Kentucky and I think he had a pit penalty at Canada. Anyway, I just don't like seeing so many people get upset because Crafton ended up with it. I hope they were more pissed with all of 2018's champs because they were all more undeserving 185. Luke posted: 11.17.2019 - 9:16 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) The No. 33 truck from Bilicki was a Chevrolet as we can see in the pictures: https://www.facebook.com/JoshBilickiRacing/posts/2536185296470718 186. BadBooking posted: 11.17.2019 - 7:45 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) As much as I dislike Crafton winning the title, I would note that had Austin Hill not spun the tires on the last restart at Phoenix, he would have had a near identical title run to Brett Moffitt the year before. 187. Mile501 posted: 11.17.2019 - 8:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ross Chastain's comments on being able to run in multiple series and his plans for 2020: "Absolutely, every race possible. If it takes jets and helicopters and whatever, we'll have to figure out how to pay for that, but whatever it takes, yeah, I want to race. I want to race everything. Selfishly, I wish there was some way of ?? I know there's the anti?Kyle rule where he can't run, but all the rest of us guys that are truck and Xfinity regulars either do Cup or truck and Xfinity or something like that where you can dual role. There's programs that would thrive on that, and it would bolster the two series, I think, if they worked together instead of just you have to pick one." 188. Steve posted: 11.19.2019 - 4:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Under the Bob Latford point system, Moffitt and Chastain would have been tied for the championship, with Enfinger and Friesen close behind. 189. RaceFanX posted: 11.19.2019 - 4:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Chasten would have tied under the old season-long system despite his late start? Whoa. 190. Mile501 posted: 11.19.2019 - 6:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @189 - I think it's safe to assume that those points were calculated based on Chastain's full season results, not just starting from when he switched to truck points. 191. ThatGuy posted: 11.21.2019 - 3:02 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) While Phoenix didn't give us a 3rd straight 1st time winner, 9 of the last 11 races this season were won by a driver who got their first win this year (Moffitt being the 2 exceptions)- Hill: Michigan, Vegas, Homestead, Friesen: Eldora & Phoenix, and Ankrum, Chastain, Boyd and Gilliland all had 1 192. 12334 posted: 11.22.2019 - 9:00 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) hearing that a driver is in deep with promised sponsor payments not arriving to the team. might be north of a million 193. Mile501 posted: 11.22.2019 - 10:18 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Competition in the truck series seems to be improving with several organizations set to run 3+ trucks in 2020 (ThorSport, GMS, KBM, and DGR-Crosley), not to mention other smaller but similarly strong teams like Hattori and Niece. 194. ThatGuy posted: 11.25.2019 - 5:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) So I realized something. For starters, I'd like to see KBM have a 4th truck for 20 races instead of a small handful. I've read that Kyle doesn't want to field a 4th truck at Daytona, Talladega or Eldora because you're almost guaranteed to have a destroyed truck (plus Daytona and Talladega you must be 18, and KBM has employed drivers under 18). However for 2020 with Eckes & Lessard full time he could fill a 3rd full time truck (again) easily and a 4th truck for 20 (or all 23) races with part time efforts from himself, B. Jones, Herbst, Biffle, Chandler Smith, Ty Gibbs & Hailie Deegan. He may not even need all of them. Smith turns 18 the day before the Pocono race, Hailie Deegan is 18 already so she has no restricted tracks, but Ty would be age restricted essentially all year because the 2 races after his 18th birthday are Martinsville & Phoenix. Now onto my realization. 2021 could be a big year for KBM/Toyota. I think if Ty Gibbs moves up to trucks, he'll be with KBM. I think Smith definitely stays in the KBM stable as well. I would also like to see Deegan go to KBM also, and while a lot of people said Toyota would make sure of that, I'm not 100% sold on it quite yet. Hailie stated that she plans to do some truck racing in 2020, so we could see her full time in 2021. So, in 2021 KBM might actually be a 4 truck team, all 4 being full time. This is my ideal scenario, and I'm not getting my hopes up (partially because I don't know where Eckes or Lessard would go after 1 year) but for 2021 KBM fields 3 full time drivers running for points: 19 year old Hailie Deegan, 18 year old Chandler Smith, and 18 year old Ty Gibbs. Who knows, maybe he has 4 full time trucks (Eckes or Lessard comes back) and a 5th part time truck for himself (like ThorSport did this hear with Snider & Briscoe) 195. Mile501 posted: 12.04.2019 - 3:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) A follow-up to my comments 153-155 above... If Kyle Busch didn't win those 5 races early in the season, or if "wins" for playoff purposes were awarded to the highest-finishing series regular, then Ross Chastain would be the 2019 champion. If Austin Hill had done a little better at Phoenix or Martinsville, he would be the 2019 champion. With playoff points added in, if he accumulated points all season, he would have ended up with 895 points, 26 behind Moffitt and 13 ahead of Enfinger. 196. Canadianfan posted: 01.21.2020 - 2:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) NASCAR just announced that they will be expanding the playoffs from 8 to 10 drivers for the Truck series. 197. Mile501 posted: 01.21.2020 - 2:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Now the truck series playoffs will start with 10 drivers, be cut to 8, then to 4. The numbering is weird. 12-8-4 and 8-6-4 are both okay. Or they could've done 10-7-4. But I don't like 10-8-4. 198. Anonymous posted: 01.21.2020 - 3:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) With a deeper field than they've had in a while, I'm okay with the Truck playoff field expanding to 10. Should be fun to watch either way. 199. George_Costanza posted: 01.21.2020 - 3:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I don't even understand the need for the playoff system. But now, why expand it? Who cares if a couple competitive trucks don't make it? That's what makes it interesting! 200. ThatGuy posted: 01.21.2020 - 6:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I like the 10-7-4 idea honestly. But the 12-8-4 is the best. This year will be interesting, even with 2 more playoffs spots, with ThorSport assumingly (i haven't heard/read anything concrete yet) having the same 4, GMS having 4 (at least 2 will be great and a 3rd a serious threat for the playoffs), KBM's 2, FRM having 1, plus Ty Majeski driving for Al Niece and Stewart Friesen (who's in a Toyota now), it'll be interesting to see who makes it and who doesn't. Plus who knows if someone could pull an upset at Daytona or somewhere else and therefore knock out someone we thought was a serious contender. (Remember, both KBM full timers, 1 GMS and 1 ThorSport failed to make the playoffs last year and the most dominant/regular season champ Grant Enfinger and ThorSport's only winner Johnny Sauter were out in the 1st round All that being said, yea we probably don't need a playoff format anymore, I think enough people don't want it now 201. Canadianfan posted: 01.21.2020 - 7:03 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @200 Thorsport does have the same lineup. Pockrass mentioned this several times and I posted it here under the team page. 202. Mile501 posted: 01.21.2020 - 8:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If 10 drivers had made the truck playoffs in 2019, that would have added Ben Rhodes and Harrison Burton to the playoff field. At a quick glance, I believe the end result would have been Sauter making it to the final four instead of Crafton, though I'm not 100% sure of that. With the extra drivers in the playoffs, Sauter would not have been eliminated in round 1 (Burton would have been eliminated instead, along with Enfinger). 203. Jimmie4life posted: 01.23.2020 - 7:12 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I liked the 8-6-4 format, and the 10-7-4 should've been used, too. This 10-8-4 format makes zero sense. Only 2 drivers eliminated in the first 3 races, and the next 3 take out 4, doesn't make much sense. Personally, if I made a playoff format, every win nabs you 5 extra bonus points, and a pole position adds 3. Along with that, the season lap leader(s) get an extra 3 points. In the second/third round(depending on series), a win in the previous round is also 5 extra points, and a pole is 3 as well. 204. Tarheel posted: 01.23.2020 - 8:02 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) So long as Nascar sticks with this elimination playoff format, I'd like to see a rule that a driver who has not won a race that season cannot knock a driver who has won that season out a playoff round. Convoluted? Maybe, but convolution seems to be the primary goal of Nascar these days. 205. Canadianfan posted: 01.28.2020 - 4:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) From Pockrass: NASCAR eliminated the entry deadline rule for the triple truck challenge (the rule that didn't allow Biffle to be eligible for the race following Texas). 206. Mile501 posted: 02.04.2020 - 2:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) In 2020, truck series pole winners will be credited with winning the Cometic Gasket Pole Award. 207. Rich posted: 01.13.2021 - 7:33 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Vince Welch, Phil Parsons and Michael Waltrip were the commentators. 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