|| *Comments on the 2020 North Carolina Education Lottery 200:* View the most recent comment <#264> | Post a comment <#post> 1. Yeet posted: 05.22.2020 - 4:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 47 trucks? WOW! 2. Onion posted: 05.22.2020 - 4:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) wtf Where did all these trucks come from? 3. David posted: 05.22.2020 - 4:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It looks like we have our first DNQs since returning from the two-month interruption, because the following trucks are already shown as being "excluded by points": 03, 5, 6, 14, 34, 55, 75 Which, if that is true, makes me wonder why they bothered entering. Just to be counted as a race attempt? 4. Jimmie4life posted: 05.22.2020 - 4:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) What the hell? God damn that's a lot of trucks. 5. JSPorts posted: 05.22.2020 - 4:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) But there won't be qualifying for this race...so the 7 who go home will probably withdraw, I'd imagine. 6. Yeet posted: 05.22.2020 - 4:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The official entry list can be found here. It somewhat explains how they're going to set the field but I don't fully understand it yet. I think it's just based off of current points and provisionals. https://twitter.com/AlanCavanna/status/1263918855564468225?s=09 7. Canadianfan posted: 05.22.2020 - 4:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The trucks below are excluded from this race due to lack of points. #03 #5 #6 #13 #34 #55 #75 8. Jimmie4life posted: 05.22.2020 - 4:10 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @3 Well, a max of 40 trucks can race on tuesday, so many teams tried to take that opportunity and show up. 9. David posted: 05.22.2020 - 4:12 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Also I suppose if one of the 40 who are in decides to withdraw, one of the excludeds would take their place assuming they are actually at the track and able to do so. 10. Yeet posted: 05.22.2020 - 4:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) From what I know teams don't get to see who's entered and who's not until the list comes out officially, I'm sure the teams excluded will WD. Even though he's not gonna get to race, cool to see Trey Hutchens' team back. Long Motorsports does not have any connection to Carl Long. The team is owned by Kim and Boyd Long and are essentially a "rent a ride" team like seen at some short tracks. They prepare the trucks and whoever wants to pay up will get to race. Also if anyone's interested they have an entire 2019 truck complete and for sale at only $18,500, which is kind of a bargain. 11. Onion posted: 05.22.2020 - 4:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That makes very little sense. When was the last time you saw a team withdraw after qualifying? Or am I misunderstanding what your wanted to say? 12. Onion posted: 05.22.2020 - 4:18 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) My comment #11 is @9, not Yeet. 13. TheDewCrew posted: 05.22.2020 - 4:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This means Erik Jones won't be competing in the bounty this week if I'm not mistaken 14. Yeet posted: 05.22.2020 - 4:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @13 depending on if teams locked into the final 40 will compete. One thing that may happen depending on sponsorship $$$ and Erik Jones' willingness to race they may pay teams a good amount of money to withdraw so they get into the race. I remember Menard did that once in a Nationwide race. 15. David posted: 05.22.2020 - 4:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This would have been the first appearance for Boyd Long's team since he fielded a truck for Ted Minor for 2 races in 2017. 16. Sector posted: 05.22.2020 - 4:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Is the bounty on Kyle Busch still going on or has the COVID-19 ruined the fun and caused everyone to forget about it? 17. Yeet posted: 05.22.2020 - 4:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @16 the bounty is still on. I hope the "excluded" teams get something out of this, maybe a provisional or bonus money or something along those lines. 18. Canadianfan posted: 05.22.2020 - 4:38 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) @17 However Halmar who was putting up the Truck regular side of the bounty instead donated his money to a local food bank, 19. Bodyblower posted: 05.22.2020 - 4:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Or NASCAR could just let everyone in. 20. TeamDCRfan posted: 05.22.2020 - 4:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sweet Jesus that's a lotta Trucks. That's kinda some BS though that they are going off of 2020 points only 21. Jonesfan7720 posted: 05.22.2020 - 4:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That sucks, was really excited to watch Erik in a truck again 22. Onion posted: 05.22.2020 - 4:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @18 That's a great move. Props to Halmar for that. 23. Yeet posted: 05.22.2020 - 4:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @19 47 trucks would mean less purse money as well, 40 trucks while they are upping the purse means that there's more trucks to spread the purse too. Plus there's only 43 stalls. You have to make a limit somewhere. 24. Timothy_Eklund posted: 05.22.2020 - 5:02 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) It would be cool if they held a last chance qualifier race. It probably wont happen though. 25. Anonymous posted: 05.22.2020 - 5:03 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) if you went 32 15 of them would have gone home man when the last time in NASCAR you sent 15 drivers packing and missing the race. 26. RaceFanX posted: 05.22.2020 - 5:09 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) The 40-truck field for this matches the all-time record for the Truck series. I never thought I'd see that happen but I'm loving it. 27. Onion posted: 05.22.2020 - 5:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @25 I think it was 2007 the Daytona 500 that had 18 DNQs. No 500 since then had 15 non-qualifiers that I know, but not sure whether no other race had that many. 28. 34McDowellFan posted: 05.22.2020 - 5:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #5 Owner: Richie Wauters James Finch and Billy Ballew are also involved with the team, but I think Wauters would be the official owner 29. Bodyblower posted: 05.22.2020 - 5:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well a few of them would probably be S&P's so that maybe fixes the stall issue. 30. GoRC10 posted: 05.22.2020 - 5:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @19 What a great idea, said no one ever. Not enough pit stalls and you can't just expect the track to add all that extra purse money. 31. KentuckyOffroadRider posted: 05.22.2020 - 5:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Obviously this shows you how ignorant NASCAR is reducing the number of cars/trucks that are allowed to compete in the lower series. If you provide the spots, they will show up 32. Canadianfan posted: 05.22.2020 - 5:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) From Bob Pockrass: Erik Jones won't be in Charlotte truck race. When they went to 40 trucks, NASCAR changed criteria to 27 spots on 2019 points and 13 spots on 2020 points. No past champion spots. There were more than 40 trucks entered and team had no 2019 or 2020 points. 33. Bodyblower posted: 05.22.2020 - 5:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Or they can share stalls. They used to do that. 34. Corey posted: 05.22.2020 - 5:43 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @31 If this was any track aside from Charlotte, would 47 trucks show up? 35. KentuckyOffroadRider posted: 05.22.2020 - 5:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Don't forget the modern day record for cars to show up was in 1994 at The Brickyard 400 when 84 cars showed up for 40 qualifying spots. It was not uncommon that same time for 65 to 70 cars to show up for Busch series races. Examples of are the 1994 Busch Light 300 at Atlanta and the spring Loudon race when it was rumored 80 something cars showed up for that event, even tho racing reference has yet to obtain those records 36. TeamDCRfan posted: 05.22.2020 - 5:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) So if it's a combination of 2019 and 2020 points, how does Norm in the 6 get shoved out and as of this writing according to Jayski, the 68 of Greenfield make it in when the 68 was way below Norm in OP last year 37. TeamDCRfan posted: 05.22.2020 - 5:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 36 And neither made a race in 2020 38. 34McDowellFan posted: 05.22.2020 - 6:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #42 owner: Al Niece 39. Matthew posted: 05.22.2020 - 6:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ross Is In The Race Due To Being a 2019 Winner 40. Yeet posted: 05.22.2020 - 6:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @33 with NASCAR trying to have teams as spread out as possible with the pandemic, sharing pit boxes are nowhere near an option. Also sharing stalls would be very hard to do with trucks, pit crews aren't that large to begin with unlike Cup, and would lead to a lot of organizational mess on pit road. I'd love to see all 47 race, but I'm being realistic. 41. NascarLeadLapPoints posted: 05.22.2020 - 6:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 39 42 got 15 points from 2019 DNQ list 41. 6 (42nd in 2020 points and 28th in 2019) 42. 75 (41st in 2019) 43. 14 (51st in 2019) 44. 03 (56th in 2019) 45. 5 (No points) 46. 34 (No points) 47. 55 (No points) 42. Bodyblower posted: 05.22.2020 - 6:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) They could share pit crews. 43. SpeedyThexton posted: 05.22.2020 - 6:43 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) It would have been nice to see the whole lot start but it was always pretty unlikely. Feel sorry for the guys missing out Except Viens, he's just terrible 44. possum posted: 05.22.2020 - 6:46 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @10 - only because I know you're thinking of buying a race car...a GOTS truck, 2020 legal for $18,500 would be a huge bargain - except it doesn't have a motor, or a transmission, or a rear gear, or a fuel cell, or a seat, or a radiator, or shocks, or springs. Probably doesn't have a dash or ignition either. Or an exhaust. Basically you're getting a chassis, cage, body, wheels, and perhaps brakes. If you're buying a race car it pays to read the ad very carefully... 45. Yeet posted: 05.22.2020 - 6:55 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @44 I appreciate all your help for sure, thank you for taking the time to correct my stupidity LoL. 46. ThatGuy posted: 05.22.2020 - 10:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Holy crap. That's a lot of entries. I hope Angela Ruch DNQs 47. Canadianfan posted: 05.22.2020 - 10:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @46 Sorry there's no qualifying she's guaranteed in. 48. ThatGuy posted: 05.22.2020 - 10:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) @47 I knew there wasn't qualifying, I was just hoping that with 7 extra entrants she would be out one way or another @31 it's a money thing @30 if money wasn't an issue...backstretch pit stalls. But that's more money to change the track's layout. It would be interesting though to see 47 trucks. Pole sitter starts lapping people on lap 3, a row or 2 is on the backstretch when the green flag waves. Anyone know or wanna do the research and tell me how many times and how recently the series had over 36 trucks in a race? 49. KentuckyOffroadRider posted: 05.22.2020 - 10:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Poor Norm. Why did all these other teams sign up, pay the large enter fee to enter this race when it was known all along there would be no qualifying time trails 50. TeamDCRfan posted: 05.23.2020 - 12:17 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) Complete BS Norm is out and Greenfield is in. 51. Yeet posted: 05.23.2020 - 12:53 am Rate this comment: (2) (0) @49 if they WD they get all that money back from the entry fee. @50 I don't know how they did the points here but maybe Greenfield outqualifying Benning at Daytona this year had something to do with it like a tiebreaker. Just a speculation though. 52. TeamDCRfan posted: 05.23.2020 - 6:51 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) 51. That's kinda what I'm thinking, which is about as dumb as setting the field the way they did at Watkins Glen in 2000 53. Spen posted: 05.23.2020 - 6:51 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) @48: Starting or attempting? Texas 2000 had 37 starters. The record is 40. Highest number of Trucks attempting since IRP 2004. @35: Oxford 1987 had 97 cars attempt. Which isn't even quite the modern record: Ontario 1972 had 113. 54. Chives5150 posted: 05.23.2020 - 6:52 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Viens misses another race. lmao 55. Hi posted: 05.23.2020 - 6:52 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) wonder how we see Poole fair in this race considering last year when he nearly won he was in a 2007 truck with numerous mechanical issues & now he's in for the most part a 2019 DGR-Crosley Truck with essentially just a different wrap. 56. SeanS posted: 05.23.2020 - 6:52 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Man, I would have really liked NASCAR to give a last chance race a try for such odd circumstances such as this, but it is what it is. With the level of effort and time needed for one, they could probably just qualify like normal at that point... Excited to see how the inflated field size effects the race if at all or if it's even noticeable when watching on TV. When I first started following, the field size was 36, so it'll be cool to see 40 trucks go at it here. 57. ThatGuy posted: 05.23.2020 - 9:04 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @53 thank you Hopefully I find an article that explains it, but if not, is there anyone that would explain truck by truck why they made or missed the race? Don't have to include obvious trucks like ThorSport, KBM. But I'm confused as to why the 75, 6, and 5 won't race, but Chase Elliott will in the 24, which has no entries this year, and I thought its 2019 points went to another GMS truck for 2020 58. 52 posted: 05.23.2020 - 11:19 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) The thread for this truck race now has twice as many comments as the nationwide and cup series pages have combined for their races this weekend. This page was also created after them. Seems like more cars/trucks entering a race causes a lot of conversation. 59. Canadianfan posted: 05.23.2020 - 11:27 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @57 Erik Jones won't be in Charlotte truck race. When they went to 40 trucks, NASCAR changed criteria to 27 spots on 2019 points and 13 spots on 2020 points. No past champion spots. There were more than 40 trucks entered and team had no 2019 or 2020 points. 42 has the points from the 15 last year. The 24 has the 34 points from last year. NASCAR isn't going by wins or past champions. 75 didn't have enough points from last year to get one of the 27 spots from last year points. And then 13 spots on this year points. The same goes for the 6 he just missed out on both categories. 60. ch posted: 05.23.2020 - 11:57 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) According to Bob Pockrass the 8 and 68 are in over the 6 based on Daytona qualifying speeds. 61. TeamDCRfan posted: 05.23.2020 - 12:09 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) 60 That is BS. As big of fan as I am of both the Nemechek's, that is the stupidest way to determine the lineup 62. PucciMan posted: 05.23.2020 - 12:10 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) The good news is we'll have more then 36 trucks racing. The last time there was more then 36 trucks was the June Texas race in 2000. The bad news is they won't have qualifying. 63. JSPorts posted: 05.23.2020 - 1:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm all for bigger fields, especially in the Truck Series, where we routinely see the most DNQs of any series. 64. Mile501 posted: 05.23.2020 - 1:25 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @63 - For now, that's certainly true. But as recently as 2017, even 32-truck fields weren't full in 7 out of 23 races. The first Texas race in 2017 only saw a 28-truck field, 3 of which pulled into the garage within the first dozen laps. Still, it is encouraging to see the truck series on an upswing, and perhaps it's time for NASCAR to go back to a larger field size. 65. Bodyblower posted: 05.23.2020 - 7:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @45 yeah lol they could have a few teams share pit crews so we can get more teams on the track and not get any more risk of infections for Dat Boi. 66. ThatGuy posted: 05.23.2020 - 8:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @59 I was unaware that GMS's 24 got the 34 from last year. That seems really stupid on Reaume's part, when there's 33+ entries they're usually in a do or die mode. I knew Erik would be out because I don't recall Wauters, Finch or Ballew racing in the last 3 years. Too bad the 75 didn't have more points to get in. I like Parker and they usually run competitive (don't usually get the finishes they should). @60 That annoys me. Just let Norm run. It doesn't bother me another Cup driver is in the race, but it does bother me that he's taking up a spot just to run for the bounty (I know they entered both trucks at Daytona but DNQ'd but believe they didn't even attempt Vegas) I wonder if nothing changes by Atlanta, if we'll get less than 45 entries because the teams going home this time would go home next time if we get 40+ entries again Also: if KBM's 46 entered, would they have made it? They had decent points from last year, but idk if it would be enough. 67. thog posted: 05.23.2020 - 8:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Everyone's mad about how Norm Benning is missing the race but he's one of the slowest trucks on the track. thog don't caare. 68. Timothy_Eklund posted: 05.23.2020 - 8:28 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Thog may not care, but Timothy Eklund does. 69. TeamDCRfan posted: 05.23.2020 - 8:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) TeamDCRfan cares too 70. MSportRev posted: 05.23.2020 - 9:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @66 I think the 46 would have made it not only because of the points, but depending on who was in it. If the driver in the truck won last year, they might have been in. 71. Yeet posted: 05.23.2020 - 10:27 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Even when things begin to turn back to normal, races w/o practice may stay. It saves lots of these small teams money, it evens out the playing field, and it promotes more teams to make the trip to try and make the show w/o spending so much money on practice tires and preparation. The DNQs here aren't in trouble at all when it comes to losing money by missing the show, and will promote more and more teams to show up when qualifying comes back. 72. Bodyblower posted: 05.24.2020 - 2:16 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @69 Yours truly cares too. 73. Altracing posted: 05.24.2020 - 8:45 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) The last time there were 40 trucks in one race was the 1998 season finale at Las Vegas 74. Sloracr71 posted: 05.24.2020 - 9:05 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) Sloracr71 cares. Few teams have supported the truck series as long as Norm, and has helped to fill the fields when they couldn't get enough entries for a full field. 75. UnderdogFan89 posted: 05.24.2020 - 2:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'll do my best to wrangle my way through the rules here, for #57. As #59 CanadianFan already mentioned, and confirmed by Bob Pockrass (though I can't find any info on this but Pockrass is incredibly well informed so will be doing this based on that info) the first 27 spots are based off of 2019 owner points, and the remaining 13 spots are based off of 2020 owner points. According to that post, there is currently no saved spots for past champions and past winners, as there usually is during adverse qualifying conditions. There are also 2 trucks (#24, #42) that somehow made the field, so I will put the likely reason why. So in order, we have Spots 1-10 #18 (switched owner points with #51) #45 #26 (which used to be the ##24) #52 #16 #13 #98 #15 (which used to be the #17) #88 #99 Spots 11-21 #2 #4 #51 (switched owner points with #18) #22 #02 #20 #00 (received owner points from #12 last year) #3 #44 #38 (received owner points from #54 last year) #33 Spots 22-32 #30 #21 (received owner points from #8 last year) #24/42 (this should be where the #34 was last year, but they are classified as a DNQ without any points from 2019 or 2020. Considering the #34 team has even MADE a race this year and definitely has points, my guess is shenanigans happened to get this team in) #10 #24/42 (this should be where the #15 was last year, so again my guess is they transferred points last year or recent shenanigans to get this team in, but never saw an official release) #11 (received owner points from #46 last year) 2020 owner points #40 #23 #9 #19 #04 Spots 33-40 (continuing owner points for 2020) #56 #7 #97 #28 #83 No one else has owner points for the 2020 season, so they all have 0 points. Interestingly, the tie breaker for ties is usually best finish, and technically teams that have attempted races have a "finish" in the qualifying order. This used to matter more when owner points were given to DNQ teams in the order they "finished" in qualifying, but it matters now. #8 - 35th place "finish" at Daytona #68 - 36th place "finish" at Daytona #49 - 37th place "finish" at Daytona If anyone has any insight into the #24 and #42, that would help. 76. UnderdogFan89 posted: 05.24.2020 - 3:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) To actually comment about my last post, the #49 actually has a best "finish" of 33rd, since they also DNQ'd at race #2. This throws off my assumption that best "finish" was the last tiebreaker. It wouldn't change who made the field, but the #49 would start 38th, not 40th as listed. 77. Canadianfan posted: 05.24.2020 - 3:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @75 42 has the points from the 15 last year. The 24 has the 34 points from last year. This was mentioned by Bob Pockrass in a tweet before the start of the season. The only official release was when NASCAR sent him and all the other media members the owner points update before the season started. 78. ThatGuy posted: 05.24.2020 - 3:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) To add to @74, Benning & Cobb are usually filling fields that wouldotherwise be short PLUS, they aren't causing problems when they get lapped or bring out cautions constantly like other midpack-underfunded trucks do 79. UnderdogFan89 posted: 05.24.2020 - 3:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Thank you Canadian Fan. I did not see that tweet (only the official one) and can't seem to find it now. It seems weird to transfer points to a team that's part time but I guess it helped here. Still doesn't explain how the #34 missed this race though. They have owner points this year. 80. UnderdogFan89 posted: 05.24.2020 - 3:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #77 Canadian Fan looking back, the #34 used a provisional last race, beating the #10, who DNQ'd. To me that implies they kept their points from last year. 81. Canadianfan posted: 05.24.2020 - 4:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @80 I'm guessing some money changed hands during the shutdown to ensure the big names get in. I did find the tweet it's from February 3rd. It doesn't mention either the of these two changes only an internal change #24 owner points to the #26. I will say I do wish Jones and Parker had made the cut or maybe something could be worked out so they could be in to have a stronger field this week. 82. ThatGuy posted: 05.24.2020 - 4:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @75 very appreciated, thank you. So Nemechek, Greenfield and Ciccarelli make it and Norm won't solely due to Daytona qualifying speeds? Wack. 83. UnderdogFan89 posted: 05.24.2020 - 4:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @81 yes I was using that tweet to help me make my list. I'm certain there was some shifting around, especially with the #34. @82 there really isn't much else to go on right now. Interestingly, next week switches to being entirely based on this year's points and attempts, so there won't be nearly as much confusion...I hope? 84. ThatGuy posted: 05.24.2020 - 8:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @83 I've been watching for years, but I never learned or took the time to fully understand how the owner points worked in the lower series. But, these are pretty rare or unseen times so it adds to my confusion. 85. UnderdogFan89 posted: 05.24.2020 - 11:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @83 same, though I've tried to understand the rules better now that I'm supposed to he an adult haha! Stumbled upon the tail end of the Atlanta finale of 1997 as a kid. Liked it so parents looked for when the season would be back. First real race was the 1998 Daytona 500 (some race to be your first, right?!). I'm still confused at times though, like with the 24 and 42, and why the #49 is 40th instead of 38th. 86. ThatGuy posted: 05.25.2020 - 12:43 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @85 i can vaguely remember having a Jeff Gordon shirt, liking his rainbow car, but the first race I remember was the 2001 Daytona 500, equally chaotic as '98, but in the exact opposite way. I find a lot of times I'm unaware of something, I usually get a response with Bob Pockrass as the source of info. I think I follow the sport pretty closely, then I get on here and have people explain things to me or find out insider knowledge that makes me feel like barely a casual fan. 87. UnderdogFan89 posted: 05.25.2020 - 2:07 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Finally found an article confirming that the #24 obtained the points of the #34 when the lineup procedures were announced to give Chase the chance to race. 88. Sandy posted: 05.25.2020 - 9:06 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) It sucked there was no qualifying would have been really interesting seeing 47 trucks for 40 spots 89. AwesomeSandwich posted: 05.25.2020 - 11:35 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Lineup here: https://www.jayski.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/31/2020/05/24/2020-03ngrots-lineup.pdf 90. 52 posted: 05.25.2020 - 11:35 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Iwuji, Decker and Ruch all starting in front of Kyle Busch.. That's only ever going to end badly. 91. Justin88 posted: 05.25.2020 - 1:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bayley Currey driver of the 49 92. KentuckyOffroadRider posted: 05.25.2020 - 4:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) When does this race even run? I thought it would have ran Friday night or Saturday. There is poor exposure of when these races are going to be held. Racing reference should have a column on their home pages what days, time and network the races will be broadcast on 93. Anonymous posted: 05.25.2020 - 4:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Probably Majeski's best chance at winning, although I certainly don't expect it to happen. 94. Anonymous posted: 05.25.2020 - 4:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If the Leech doesn't win then I'm gonna go with Eckes. He's been mighty fast every time he steps into the 18 truck. 95. Corey posted: 05.25.2020 - 4:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @92 I think the issue is Fox. They are trying to run these races on a skeleton crew. Moving the equipment from Darlington to Charlotte in 24 hours probably would have been impossible job. Also they make for a mic filler between the two Cup races. 96. Corey posted: 05.25.2020 - 4:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @92 Also this race will be Tuesday night at 8 pm EST. The Xfinity race is Monday 7:30 pm EST. 97. Canadianfan posted: 05.25.2020 - 4:56 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @92 That's what Jayski is for! 98. Canadianfan posted: 05.25.2020 - 5:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @92 I think they're doing a fine job and this is just a stats site. They have the day of the race. If you want more go to Fox or NASCAR's site and they'll have everything else regarding start times. 99. RacingDude00 posted: 05.25.2020 - 6:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I believe Erik Jones was going to have Phoenix Construction on his truck if he was able to race in this event tomorrow evening 100. AlexBowman88Fan posted: 05.26.2020 - 8:59 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bayley Currey is the driver of the 49 truck 101. Jiminy posted: 05.26.2020 - 11:18 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) It would've been fun if they did an old-school hooligan race with some many trucks on the entry list. Set starting positions 1-32 (the normal size of the field) by points, and then put the other 15 trucks in a 20 or 30 lap race to determine who starts 33-40. That would give everyone who entered at least an opportunity to race their way in. 102. Canadianfan posted: 05.26.2020 - 11:21 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) From Kevin Harvick: The bounty is still on for tonight's @NASCAR_Trucks race. However, in the current environment, the $50,000 donation will be made in the name of the cup driver who is eligible and beats @KyleBusch to a covid-19 relief effort of their choice. 103. 34McDowellFan posted: 05.26.2020 - 11:39 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) If Kyle Busch wins this will be his 8th Truck Series win in a row. 104. Ultimate_Warrior_#18 posted: 05.26.2020 - 12:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I wonder if the Reaume trucks will keep their starting positions or drop to the back. If they stay with their current starting spots it's gonna be a very interesting first couple of laps. 105. Onion posted: 05.26.2020 - 1:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Both are extremely slow and not good enough to be trusted with starting ahead of 25 other trucks. If at least Iwuji doesn't drop to the back, then all I can say is that Reaume brought it on themselves. 106. JSPorts posted: 05.26.2020 - 2:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) They'll probably get passed quickly, but there's no reason to think there will necessarily be an accident. They race around faster trucks a lot, although not in the volume they will here, of course. 107. Onion posted: 05.26.2020 - 2:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) They are around faster trucks in a field of 32 who had enough time to get spaced out. Now, they are going to be in the middle of a field of 40 with at least 15-20 much faster trucks right on their bumpers. Ruch might have shown to be decent in traffic in Daytona, but there she wasn't in one of the slowest trucks. Iwuji has shown nothing of the sort. 108. Yeet posted: 05.26.2020 - 2:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) RBR will most likely make their trucks go to the back. 109. Yeet posted: 05.26.2020 - 2:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Also, Forrister will be driving a '15 Tundra in this race according to Jayski's entry list. 110. ThatGuy posted: 05.26.2020 - 6:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Something interesting I thought of: we are going to see more than 32 trucks in a race for the first time since the 2014 season finale at Homestead. Also the first time with more than 36 trucks since I don't know when. My estimate is only about a quarter of the field has been a part of a 36 truck field (among them, I believe only Crafton & Sauter are full time this year), none of these drivers have been in a 37+ truck field. Side note: I'd love to see the trucks back at Auto Club next year along with another road course (Sonoma) during the regular season if Canada stays in the playoffs 111. Mile501 posted: 05.26.2020 - 6:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This race will tie the record for the largest field in truck series history (in terms of trucks starting the race). 5 prior truck races have had 40-truck fields: The last race of each season from 1995 through 1998, plus the Loudon race in 1997. It is, therefore, the largest truck series field in 21 1/2 years. 112. Chives5150 posted: 05.26.2020 - 7:15 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Ruch, Decker, and Iwuji all starting next to each other, this should be fun. 113. RaceFanX posted: 05.26.2020 - 8:02 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) The gap between Truck races due to the coronavirus was longer than their offseason. 114. MBenoit posted: 05.26.2020 - 8:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Track record for cautions: 10 (twice). I think we'll break that tonight. 115. RaceFanX posted: 05.26.2020 - 8:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This is the first-ever Truck series race on a Tuesday night, meaning it has now raced on every day of the week. 116. Yeet posted: 05.26.2020 - 8:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Competition caution is out. Iwuji I believe gets the free pass leaving 38 trucks on the lead lap. Anderson had issues early and had to pit and the #28 doesn't have a sponsor on their truck so they may have just pulled a S&P. 117. BOBO83329521 posted: 05.26.2020 - 8:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Rhodes with the pole off the random draw out to the lead but gets passed on lap 1 by the 16 118. BOBO83329521 posted: 05.26.2020 - 8:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jordan Anderson slow 119. BOBO83329521 posted: 05.26.2020 - 8:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Comp caution out. Crafton up to second and booooooo up to sixth 120. BOBO83329521 posted: 05.26.2020 - 8:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Crafton with a far better start than the 16 but Hill able to maintain the lead 121. Yeet posted: 05.26.2020 - 8:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) End of stage one and to a lot of people surprise, all 40 trucks still running. Dauzat got a speeding penalty when he came down pit road before the competition caution so that's why he's lost 4 laps. 122. BOBO83329521 posted: 05.26.2020 - 8:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Chastain to the lead 123. Anonymous posted: 05.26.2020 - 8:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Chastain to the lead 124. BOBO83329521 posted: 05.26.2020 - 8:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Chastain wins stage one. Is he eligible for the KB Bounty? 125. ThatGuy posted: 05.26.2020 - 8:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Idk if that was Chastain's fault or his spotter's, but that was stupid 126. BOBO83329521 posted: 05.26.2020 - 8:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Zane Smith out front 127. BOBO83329521 posted: 05.26.2020 - 8:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Lessard out to the lead 128. BOBO83329521 posted: 05.26.2020 - 8:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 88 to the lead as Lessard drops back on older tires 129. Corey posted: 05.26.2020 - 8:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @124 I don't think so. He's considered an Xfinity driver. The Bounty was strictly for Cup. 130. BOBO83329521 posted: 05.26.2020 - 8:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Elliott now out front. He's already gone from the 88 who's fighting for second with Chastain and Smith 131. Anonymous posted: 05.26.2020 - 8:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Majeski immediately dropping back. 132. Canadianfan posted: 05.26.2020 - 8:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bounty is for #8, #24, or #30. 133. Yeet posted: 05.26.2020 - 8:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Nemechek, driving for a team that failed to qualify for Daytona, is running awesome right now. 134. BOBO83329521 posted: 05.26.2020 - 9:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Elliott wins stage 2. Two Truck buschwhackers win the two stages but at least it's not booooooooo 135. Scott25 posted: 05.26.2020 - 9:04 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Decker seems even slower than usual. I think this year we're seeing that Angela Ruch isn't as bad as we thought, though. She's at least satisfactory by journeyman pay driver standards and isn't a hazard out there. 136. BOBO83329521 posted: 05.26.2020 - 9:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Elliott holds serve in the lead off pit road over the 99 137. Boring posted: 05.26.2020 - 9:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Meh, jerk takes the lead, no point in sticking around for the rest of this garbage, Im out. 138. BOBO83329521 posted: 05.26.2020 - 9:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Rhodes with a good jump with the push from Busch and Busch takes the lead 139. BOBO83329521 posted: 05.26.2020 - 9:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gilliland got the wall 140. BOBO83329521 posted: 05.26.2020 - 9:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Iwuji, Friesen, and Poole crash in 1 141. Onion posted: 05.26.2020 - 9:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yep, there's going to be no problem with Iwuji, he's ran a lot in traffic... right. There are some people who should not be driving on a level like this. Iwuji is one of those. Restrict him to 1 mile or below. 142. BOBO83329521 posted: 05.26.2020 - 9:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sauter pitted with some others, top 10 stayed out in hopes of another caution to make their pit stops. 143. Yeet posted: 05.26.2020 - 9:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Poole's attempt at the bounty sadly will come to an end in that crash. 144. BOBO83329521 posted: 05.26.2020 - 9:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Busch unable to hold on as Brett Moffitt takes the lead on the restart, there goes Natalie Wrecker around witn Poole for the fifth caution 145. Scott25 posted: 05.26.2020 - 9:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Poole just ended up racing around the wrong drivers. 146. BOBO83329521 posted: 05.26.2020 - 9:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Busch stayed out but the whole field pitted behind him 147. RaceFanX posted: 05.26.2020 - 9:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Caution for Garrett Smithley crashing with 38 to go. 148. BOBO83329521 posted: 05.26.2020 - 9:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Busch and Hill even starts, they reamain side by side, they're 3-wide and Zane Smith inside going for the lead on those fresh tires! They remain side by side through two full laps but Busch eventually clears 149. TeamDCRfan posted: 05.26.2020 - 9:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) TJ Bell having an okay run in his first race of the season. Smithley spins but can continue 150. BOBO83329521 posted: 05.26.2020 - 9:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Caution it's Smithley around where the roval chicane is 151. BOBO83329521 posted: 05.26.2020 - 9:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Issues for Crafton, Zane Smith with a great restart as the 23 stacks the field up 152. TeamDCRfan posted: 05.26.2020 - 9:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Todd literally has no luck. Looked like a little contact from his Front Row teammate John Hunter 153. BOBO83329521 posted: 05.26.2020 - 9:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Crash Todd Gilliland has been in the wall 154. BOBO83329521 posted: 05.26.2020 - 9:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Zane Smith and Johnny Sauter side by side for the lead, Sauter will take it after an impressive restart! 155. Anonymous posted: 05.26.2020 - 9:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) These guy's know they're supposed to be racing, right? 156. BOBO83329521 posted: 05.26.2020 - 9:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Elliott to the inside of the 13 as he will take the lead 157. LS318 posted: 05.26.2020 - 9:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If Kyle Busch is smart, he would dump Herbst and put Zane Smith in the 18 in Xfinity. 158. BOBO83329521 posted: 05.26.2020 - 9:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) KB to second rapidly gaining on the 24 159. TeamDCRfan posted: 05.26.2020 - 9:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) How the hell is Angela still on the lead lap? 160. Yeet posted: 05.26.2020 - 9:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @155 you watching the TV? They're literally racing crazy hard right now... 161. MBenoit posted: 05.26.2020 - 9:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) We're about to have a real exciting finish, I think. Elliott lead Busch by half a second with 10 to go. 162. Anonymous posted: 05.26.2020 - 10:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) 160 - Busch passed em like they were running backwards. 163. Anonymous posted: 05.26.2020 - 10:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Oh shit. 164. TeamDCRfan posted: 05.26.2020 - 10:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well the bounty is over now 165. Anonymous posted: 05.26.2020 - 10:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Gotta think Kyle kinda let Chase win it. Good PR. 166. Racinglife97 posted: 05.26.2020 - 10:03 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Chase Elliott wins the race and the bounty at Charlotte!! Revenge from Sunday 167. Yeet posted: 05.26.2020 - 10:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Chase Elliot claims the bounty! 168. TeamDCRfan posted: 05.26.2020 - 10:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Also, WOOOOOOOOOOO!!! 169. BOBO83329521 posted: 05.26.2020 - 10:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Chase Elliott wins and claims the KB Bounty of $100K 170. MBenoit posted: 05.26.2020 - 10:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Chase Elliott captures the win and the Kyle Busch bounty at Charlotte! 171. Anonymous posted: 05.26.2020 - 10:05 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Sucks that a leech won but at least it was Chase and not Kyle. 172. Timothy_Eklund posted: 05.26.2020 - 10:06 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I feel for the guys who quit watching this race early. 173. LS318 posted: 05.26.2020 - 10:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This should be the momentum boost Chase needs to get back into victory lane. He straight up beat Kyle Busch with older tires. 174. Anonymous posted: 05.26.2020 - 10:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) You'd think Busch could've gotten to Chase and at least make a show of it. 175. RyanM posted: 05.26.2020 - 10:16 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Glad Chase beat Kyle, but hopefully it's the last truck race he runs. Not going to defend him being here just because he's my favorite cup driver. 176. Sector posted: 05.26.2020 - 10:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Busch crashed Chase Elliott at the Cup race on Wednesday at Darlington, the race Elliott had the fastest car toward the end and nearly passed Denny Hamlin for the win. Caution came out with two to go due to teammate William Byron spinning, Chase Elliott pitted from the lead and lost the race in such a heart break. Now, the Kyle Busch bounty that was mentioned after Kyle Busch dominated and won the Vegas race by Kevin Harvick and Gander Outdoors' CEO, has be claimed by the ONE driver who has lost each of the Cup races for the second race in a row, Chase Elliott beats Kyle Busch, finally wins a damn race and claims the bounty. While it isn't a Truck regular, this was definitely a positive victory. 177. Onion posted: 05.26.2020 - 10:17 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) "I hate Cup drivers stinking up the lower series." also "CHASE WOOO YAAAS QUEEN" Absolute shite. Both Elliott and Busch are successful Cup drivers who should not be running in the trucks, no matter the circumstances. All of you celebrating this and complaining about Kyle are hypocrites. Xfinity is okay for 5-6 races a season, but you should be banned from trucks if you're full-time in Cup and won a race there in the past 3 years. 178. Yeet posted: 05.26.2020 - 10:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Natalie apparently didn't know how to describe being "loose" to her team. Check out Ryan Pistana's tweets. 179. Racinglife97 posted: 05.26.2020 - 10:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsor updates #3 - Bommarito.com / Knight Fire Protection #9 - Grant County Mulch / CR7 Motorsports Garage #16 - United Rentals Patriotic #38 - BTS Tire & Wheel Distributors / Black's Tire #51 - Cessna / Big Machine Hand Sanitizer #68 - Rackley Roofing / #TennesseeStrong #98 - Champion Power Equipment / Curb Records 180. Sector posted: 05.26.2020 - 10:30 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) #175 Chase's radio after he passed the start finish line said they will return at Atlanta. It's funny how much people despise Cup drivers racing in Truck, even though they rarely show up there (excluding Kyle Busch). 181. Anonymous posted: 05.26.2020 - 10:30 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Thank you, Onion - The Czar of NASCAR. 182. Anonymous posted: 05.26.2020 - 10:40 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) @180 Because they're taking up good rides that could eadily be used on young, promising talents, and they have no need to be in the lower series. 183. Corey posted: 05.26.2020 - 10:40 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @157 A few problems. One, Kyle Busch has no say on who drives the 18 in Xfinity. That is Joe Gibbs. Two, Zane Smith is driving a Chevy for GMS. Your are more likely to see him with Jr Motorsports. 184. ShinyMew151 posted: 05.26.2020 - 10:40 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) First race for Jeff Hammond as crew chief since 2004 185. Anonymous posted: 05.26.2020 - 10:40 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @178 I'm not one bit surprised. She does not belong behind the wheel of ANY race car, let alone a NASCAR truck. 186. Onion posted: 05.26.2020 - 10:42 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) @180 Because they shouldn't even come near a series 2 leagues below the one they are successful in. If you didn't realise that yet, my problem isn't with all Cup drivers. Bubba coming down and winning one was fine, he's not found at the sharp end of the field. A top tier Cup guy winning and taking away the opportunity from someone else is NOT fine. Not even if you happen to like the guy. @181 You welcome. Get a name, 2-bit moron. 187. Yeet posted: 05.26.2020 - 10:45 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Codie Rohrbaugh had a nice run tonight as well, he's really improved in trucks keeping his nose clean and consistently running well. Also a big atta boy to Korbin Forrister, driving for his own team that momentarily shut down for a while and came back to this race using a '15 Toyota model, and scoring a Top 25 in a field of 40. 188. NascarLeadLapPoints posted: 05.26.2020 - 10:46 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Sponsor Updates #51 Cessna/Big Machine Hand Sanitizer Distillery #28 FDNY #14 Black's Tire #5 Phoenix Construction #34 Reaume Brothers Racing #55 American Strong/LongMotorsports1.com 189. JSPorts posted: 05.26.2020 - 10:49 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I'm a Chase Elliott fan, but I'm not proud to say that today. Just as I won't support Kyle running in these races and beating up on younger, less-experienced drivers, I won't support Chase doing it. Too bad Zane Smith or Austin Hill, who appeared to be the 2 best of the non-Cuppers in the field, couldn't pull this one out. Hopefully, we won't have any Cup ringers in the next race at Atlanta, but I bet we will see at least one (probably many more if Busch runs it.) 190. TEG posted: 05.26.2020 - 11:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hey look, another unnecessary Cup leech win. Well, at least that bounty's going towards a good cause. Assuming Chase passes post-race inspection, anyway. 191. Canadianfan posted: 05.26.2020 - 11:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) From Chris Knight: Post-race inspection in the NASCAR Gander RV & Outdoors Truck Series garage is complete. All clear. The No. 51 truck had one lug nut not safe and secure. Chase Elliott is the winner. 192. TeamDCRfan posted: 05.26.2020 - 11:17 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Chase doesn't bother me leeching, partly because he's a Chevy guy, but also, rarely does he leech. 193. GGDC posted: 05.26.2020 - 11:31 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) Leaching is leaching now matter how much you do it. 194. LS318 posted: 05.26.2020 - 11:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) At least NASCAR limits the number of races buschwhackers/truckwhackers can run each year. Zane Smith was racing KB and Sauter HARD there, to do that and not wreck takes something that can't be taught. He will get a win this year unless the bad luck that follows Chevy drivers in the Cup series spreads to the Truck series too. 195. Anonymous posted: 05.26.2020 - 11:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) we did see 22 on the lead lap only to 2018 in terms of most lead lap finishers at Charlotte for the trucks there were also 22 in lead lap in 2004 and 2012 as well. pretty healthy amount and pretty impressive with a 40 truck field and yes 47 attemptees most in any truck race since 2004 at Mansfield in terms of drivers attempting a trucks race nice to see even through no qualifying. 196. SpeedyThexton posted: 05.27.2020 - 12:29 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) Fun race, don't especially care that it was cuppie vs cuppie in the end as there was still a lot going on all through the field Was really impressed with Zane Smith throughout the race, plenty of pace and made some nice aggressive moves, hadn't seen a great deal of him before this but he is definitely a name I will be watching out for going forward 197. Yeet posted: 05.27.2020 - 2:25 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) In an unaired Alan Cavana interview (for explicit language) Kyle Busch was very upset that after sitting for several months the truck came to the track with broken parts and pieces. He says there's gonna "be some (explicit) talking when I get home". Also in another interview, Kyle found Chase's bow "cute" and that "imitation is a way of flattering oneself (paraphrased)". This was before Chase said he did the bow because he thought it'd be cool and funny to do at the time so Kyle's opinion may change. 198. Mile501 posted: 05.27.2020 - 5:16 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) What an awesome night for GMS Racing. Aside from Kyle Busch in 2nd, GMS trucks swept the top 5! 199. Jimmie4life posted: 05.27.2020 - 7:02 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm used to be a manufacturer based fan, now, I can't stand it. What's the difference of being a Toyota guy and a Chevy guy? They drive the same car, just different makes! One is not better than the other, so we shouldn't put one in higher standards than the other. God, why do people need to complain about manufacturers? Oh, "They aren't American made! Get out of our country!". That's an excuse that is wrong. If NASCAR was trying to be diverse, why are we only enclosing ourselves to one country? What is wrong with people? Damn, is this an issue I take with hatred. 200. Mannoroth posted: 05.27.2020 - 7:02 am Rate this comment: (0) (2) 177. Xfinity is okay, but Trucks aren't? Are you kidding me? Trucks are a national series just like Xfinity. They are on the same level (national level) despite the fact the purse is really different. 192. Oh, so Chevy guys can leech, but Toyota guys can't? Remember that if a Cup driver wins some lower series race, he robbed the series regulars and it doesn't matter if it's Kyle, Harvick, Hamlin or Elliott. The result is the same - a Cup driver that robbed the series regular. 201. Sector posted: 05.27.2020 - 7:03 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) This is Chase Elliott's third win in the Truck series. This is his first time leading the most laps and winning in the same race. This is also his third win in a different truck number (#94 at 2013 Bowmanville, #23 at 2017 Martinsville & #24 at 2020 Charlotte). This is also his third win at a different variety of track (Road course at Bowmanville, short track at Martinsville & intermediate/1.5 mile track at Charlotte). This may most likely hold to be the worst starting position of a race winner of the 2020 Truck season, the last time a winner as started 26th or worse, Timothy Peters (also started 26th) won at Talladega dating back in 2014. 202. Ed posted: 05.27.2020 - 10:23 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ross Chastain's 6 laps led are not shown in the results 203. Onion posted: 05.27.2020 - 10:33 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @200 You are the first person I've ever seen saying Xfinity and Trucks are on the same level. Another first in your long tally of strangely deranged comments I guess. Trucks is below Xfinity, just as Xfinity is below Cup. All 3 are national series, so if you want to use that reasoning, then why aren't all 3 on the same level? On second thought, please don't do that. Since you'd do it if it makes Kyle look better. You are Slovene, right? So let me tailor this specifically to you - Is the Prva SNL on the same level as the Druga SNL? They are both national series after all. 204. Anonymous posted: 05.27.2020 - 10:54 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) No Cup driver should be racing in any series lower than Cup, period. IndyCar drivers don't race in Indy Lights, and F1 drivers don't race in Formula 2. 205. JSPorts posted: 05.27.2020 - 11:04 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Truck standings using F3 points system: Drivers: 1st: Kyle Busch, 47 points 2nd: Johnny Sauter, -13 3rd: Grant Enfinger, -22 4th: Chase Elliott, -22 5th: Austin Hill, -22 6th: Zane Smith, -24 7th: Jordan Anderson, -29 8th: Codie Rohrbaugh, -32 9th: Ben Rhodes, -32 10th: Sheldon Creed, -34 Owners: 1st: ThorSport Racing, 86 points 2nd: GMS Racing, -13 3rd: Kyle Busch Motorsports, -35 4th: Hattori Racing Enterprises, -61 5th: Jordan Anderson Racing, -68 6th: Niece Motorsports, -68 7th: CR7 Motorsports, -71 8th: McAnally Hilgemann Racing, -74 9th: NEMCO Motorsports, -78 10th: Front Row Motorsports, -80 206. NascarLeadLapPoints posted: 05.27.2020 - 11:06 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) It should read NASCAR Gander RV & Outdoors Truck Series race number etc and under 2020 results page 207. RaceFanX posted: 05.27.2020 - 11:10 am Rate this comment: (2) (0) The ringers are a doubled edged sword that does have real benefits that shouldn't be shrugged off. I think in part because of their presence Xfinity and the Gander Outdoors Truck races tend to be much bigger deals than Indy Lights and F2 events, both of which are secondary feeder series with an ever-changing cast of characters and (at least at first glance) little lingering fan interest. Xfinity and the Trucks meanwhile have are again developing a nice mix of up and comers, regulars holding tight at the level they are comfortable with (Justin Allgaier, Matt Crafton, Michael Annett, Johnny Sauter, etc.), and big name ringers which attract more media attention, fan interest, sponsorship dollars, and TV ratings. Indy Lights and F2 have a hard time getting on TV in the USA (both end up tape delayed at best usually or shuffled off to subscription apps) while Xfinity and Truck races are always aired live. Both the NASCAR series are big enough it is able to handle standalone events easily, I'm not sure the same could be said about F2 unless perhaps you went to market that is very underserved by F1. 208. Evan posted: 05.27.2020 - 11:35 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Did Chase win the bounty? He beat Kyle Busch in a Truck race so... 209. Mannoroth posted: 05.27.2020 - 11:52 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) 203. Ugh, that's why I put that national level in brackets to make it clear... Of course that Xfinity is 2nd biggest league behind Cup and in front of Trucks. I meant only on a national level and in that case, they are equal. No, I'm not Slovene. Yes, I'm a Slav, but not Slovene. I don't have the same nationality as Primoz Roglic, for example. 204. F1 drivers don't race in Formula 2 anymore. That word anymore is important, because buschwhacking was pretty common in F1 in 1960s. Just look at Jim Clark. 210. RaceFanX posted: 05.27.2020 - 1:01 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) There were eras where F1 drivers frequently ran other events, Jim Clark also ran F2, touring cars, and even a couple Indy 500s before his death. F1 drivers today do not get that option as it is typically written into their contracts they can't race anywhere but F1 so as to lessen the chances they will get hurt or killed while having an extracurricular outing, something that became standard policy in the mid-1980s following Stefan Bellof's death in a sports car race. Today if F1 teams rarely let their drivers do other things but does still occur from time to time, like McLaren signing off on Fernando Alonso's Indy 500 effort in 2017 or Force India letting Nico Hulkenberg do the 24 Hours of Le Mans in 2015. They do double-dip when they can... 211. LarsonDixonLine posted: 05.27.2020 - 1:23 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) 207 makes a really good point. I don't think it should go back to the busch wacking days of the mid 2000s where half the field is cup drivers and cup drivers win the championship. Those days were ridiculous. I think they have a good system right now. Cup drivers can't run for points and can run a very limited amount of races. It gives the lower series drivers a challenge (and I've heard most drivers enjoy having the cup drivers come down occasionally for that reason). Also, look how much fanfare the truck series got with the bounty before COVID-19. Not to mention none of the leeches ?stole a ride? from anyone. Kyle Busch's #54 wouldn't be racing if he wasn't in it. The #24 doesn't have a full time driver and neither does the #51. The 51 is waiting on Chandler Smith to be eligible and the the 24 is a multi-driver seat waiting on Sam Mayer. 212. Onion posted: 05.27.2020 - 2:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @209 Congratulations on not even making a wrong point then. Why the hell did you feel the need to point out that both series race nationally, deliberately use the words "same level" when you didn't actually mean they are on the same level? As in, Trucks is below Xfinity. That's what sane people usually mean when they say they are not on the same level. Understood? 213. ThatGuy posted: 05.27.2020 - 2:26 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @211 Thank you! I'm so tired of reading "stealing rides" when people talk about Cup drivers in xfinity & trucks. Especially when it comes to Kyle Busch, since he fields his own 3 truck team The only thing I disagree with is not letting them collect points. It really doesn't matter at all with the limitations. I say let them collect points, but can only run for 1 championship (so Kyle & Chase's wins are wins but don't get the drivers in the playoffs...which they wouldn't anyway because you have to start every race or get a waiver, which they wouldn't. 214. Sector posted: 05.27.2020 - 2:30 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) #211 They could come back and say Cup drivers are able to score points, because if they're limited with their schedules then there is really no reason for them to score points anyway. They would have to limited Xfinity drivers from racing in Truck as well, but of course that'll probably be an issue among the fans because they're not "Cup drivers." Regardless, these guys do love to race. The fact that Chase Elliott ran his first Truck race since 2017 (3 years), and managed to win the race, people are calling for his head as a leecher because he raced in Truck. My point being, why is it such a crime against the law for them to race some races in the lower series? We don't get to see many drivers race multiple series these days (Fernando Alonso, Juan Pablo Montoya in recent years, Jimmie Johnson starting 2021, the good 'ol days of A.J. Foyt & Mario Andretti), so the fact that NASCAR has some drivers racing across multiple series isn't a bad idea. With limited scheduling, even though Kyle Busch grinds so much to feed his ego, they can't do anything about it other than banning him specifically (which is wrong) strictly because he loves to race more than just the Cup series, and the limitation would effect other Cup drivers as well who would want to race extra races eventually (Example, Denny Hamlin at Darlington plus Joey Logano with Brad Keselowski racing at Watkins Glen year to year). 215. TeamDCRfan posted: 05.27.2020 - 2:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) 200 I was saying that it doesn't bother me as much. I'm not saying that Chevy guts should be allowed and Toyota shouldn't. And unlike a certain driver who happens to be behind the wheel of a Toyota, Elliott isn't a Butthead who Crys and whines when things don't go his way 216. GoRC10 posted: 05.27.2020 - 2:31 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @213 I believe drivers get end of the season prize money based on their rank in the points. In Cup, it used to be the top 25. Theoretically, a part time Cup guy in trucks could dip into that money, a situation that I find unappetizing. 217. Onion posted: 05.27.2020 - 3:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) @214 How do you still keep missing the point? The issue is not where you are declared for points, where you race mainly, but whether you have already made it in the main thing and just taking up an opportunity from someone else (like Chase, Kyle, sometimes Austin Dillon) or whether you are there trying to keep yourself out there, make a name for yourself or ensure owners that your lack of Cup results don't mean you are no good (like Poole, Timmy Hill, rarely Bubba Wallace). "My point being, why is it such a crime against the law for them to race some races in the lower series?" Those two words at the end. They are LOWER SERIES. None of the drivers you listed ran any lower series. Alonso didn't branch out to F3 and JPM didn't run Star Mazdas. It's only NASCAR drivers who do it this way and make it harder for the ones without big names just yet. And what's stopping these "just loves to race people" to dip into say Blancpain America? Or give a go to WoO? If you just love to race, you could find a way without actively obstructing a minor series below your main one. It's just the most convenient. 218. Onion posted: 05.27.2020 - 3:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And the other, only tangentially related issue is that if Kyle won this race, we wouldn't be having any of this argument, just unequivocally hating on Kyle with one certain commenter being happy about the whole thing. A popular driver won, you all know he shouldn't be here, but since it's Chase and he doesn't do it often, it's okay. When it's the same thing. The exact same thing that's universally hated, just less frequently and by someone popular. Great. Why not have Stenhouse and the Dillons do this and we'll see how it's a great system that lets the kids have some challenge. 219. JFM01 posted: 05.27.2020 - 3:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @203 He's Czech. 220. Sector posted: 05.27.2020 - 4:57 pm Rate this comment: (1) (2) #217 What point am I missing? The field size was increased to 40, and which trucks are you referring to that were booting out lesser to no name drivers for Chase Elliott and Kyle Busch? If I recall the trucks the raced in were just extras to begin with. The 7 that went home? For years we've had multiple drivers from Cup race in the Xfinity/Truck series for fun to simply just race without worrying about the championship, is it only because we've had someone named Kyle Busch who decided to race as many NASCAR races as he wanted to that we started establishing the "Kyle Busch" rule? Even then, as RaceFanX mentioned, it is 50/50, but some drivers to enjoy a challenge of racing the big superstars, and while that is mostly Kyle Busch, look at Chase Briscoe in the Xfinity Darlington race last week, or Cole Custer vs Kyle Busch at Fontana and vs Joey Logano at Chicago in 2019. Hell, even Brad Keselowski pre-2010 is the most obvious name. They get recognized quicker. Have you ever thought that maybe many of the names just simply aren't that talented or good as we all like more drivers to be? Ross Chastain is another name that is taking no prisoners vs Cup drivers (vs Kevin Harvick at Darlington 2018, vs Kyle Busch at Charlotte 2020 early on). Every throws around "Cup talent" like it's piece of cake, when it really isn't that simple, if it's that easy then everyone would be doing it. It's a form of habitat to call it lower series, even then if you REALLY want to label "lower series" then that's considered the Modified, the Pro K&N East/West (Now ARCA) series and all that jazz. NASCAR is unique that it has more than one national series that are televised, and Kyle Busch has won the second most popular driver award behind Chase Elliott in recent years. Obviously the fans will tune in to watch them race in Truck and Xfinity to boost viewer audience. That isn't a loss in NASCAR's eyes, even then we got to actually see them race for the win. Chase Elliott spanks Kyle Busch 1v1 in the first race with the bounty on Kyle's head? Kyle didn't really stand a chance, and the perfect redemption after the Darlington Cup race drama. What a story! Kyle Larson races World of Outlaw and I don't see anyone complaining about him when he was a Cup driver. There are contract obligations, as well as sponsors involved. Do you really think a NASCAR driver will take a week out of a Cup race, especially now with the requirement to make the Playoff to have a shot at a reset championship battle (attempting every race), and expect NASCAR to grant a waiver, to go race at Monaco Grand Prix over the Coca-Cola 600 event, or to do what Sebastian Buemi did and skip two American Formula E races to attend the 2016 Le Mans in France? You never really seen a ton of NASCAR drivers (obviously some raced Indianapolis 500 alas Cale Yaborough) race in other series, and they always had an opportunity to race two in one weekend (Busch/Nationwide/Xfinity) in doing so, and even then they would miss NASCAR races. They can't do that today. With that they don't even have to miss the Cup race to participate in Xfinity and Truck. If they really want to die out the Cup drivers, they will need to have the races not at the same track (Xfinity at Iowa and Cup at Pocono for example). #218 Okay, so how has this series survived since it's rebirth in 1982 if that's a real issue? 221. possum posted: 05.27.2020 - 6:31 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) @207 - you make good points. The problem is not really the Cup drivers, the problem is Cup teams, with their much greater funding and technical resources, running in the lower series. Back in the day drivers like Harry Gant would run both series, but they'd run for a Busch series car owner, not for a Cup owner. And Dale Earnhardt would run his own car, not Childress's. If I were going to make a change I'd limit car owners to fielding a car in only one series - altho then you'd have the problem of a car owner like Gibbs fielding cars under the KBM name. Maybe the solution would be to make the Xfinity and GOTS vehicles more different from Cup cars, so the cost of running multiple programs becomes unattractive. BTW, for whoever mentioned Indycars, at one time it was common for drivers like Foyt or Andretti or Unser to run USAC sprint and midget races as well as the big cars. That faded away after Indy cars became rear-engine, and the skills needed to drive them diverged from what the small cars needed. 222. Onion posted: 05.27.2020 - 6:57 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Trucks is a series on the same ladder as the Cup Series. You race in it if you are on your way to Cup (or uniquely to NASCAR - on your way to retirement). If you are here while also having a successful Cup career at the same time, you are a leech. No matter your intentions, you don't belong there. "Kyle Larson races World of Outlaw and I don't see anyone complaining about him when he was a Cup driver." * OF COURSE nobody complained about Larson in WoO. It's a different discipline, not the one he's an established, regular driver in. THAT. THAT is the point you don't seem to get. You still throw around bad examples that never done anything like this. Indy + NASCAR is not Cup + Trucks. "Hell, even Brad Keselowski pre-2010 is the most obvious name. They get recognized quicker." * Shot your argument in the foot here. Brad was first on the radar after a run in MEMPHIS. One of the races that none of the Cup drivers tended to run and indeed, everyone who was present at the track when he first showed himself to be a big talent belonged there. He may very well have not been able to shine in a one-off if racing against Mark Martin, Kevin Harvick and Kyle Busch and went on the route Cole Whitt and Parker Kligerman had to go down. "For years we've had multiple drivers from Cup race in the Xfinity/Truck series for fun to simply just race without worrying about the championship, is it only because we've had someone named Kyle Busch who decided to race as many NASCAR races as he wanted to that we started establishing the "Kyle Busch" rule?" * No. I hated the guts of Mark Martin and Jeff Burton too when they were messing with the Busch Series when I started watching. So no. It's not just Kyle Busch. It's that he's polarizing which means more will take notice. As I've said, most people would not be so okay with this if it wasn't a driver they like. "It's a form of habitat to call it lower series ..." * So just to clarify, are you stooping down to the level that you start not calling the de facto THIRD TIER of NASCAR a lower series? Please don't. Call me names instead, I take that better. "NASCAR is unique that it has more than one national series that are televised" * It's not. Not even close. There's televised, national series in multiple countries. The German package is quite extensive, at one point it included F4(-level), F3, production cars, touring cars, one-make GTs, proper GTs. All in either together or in 2 batches. Guess what didn't happen there? Yeah. Those who made it to DTM didn't play around in DTC or TCR. "Do you really think a NASCAR driver will take a week out of a Cup race, especially now with the requirement to make the Playoff to have a shot at a reset championship battle" * Almost like they race more often than any other driver already, ample amount to get your fix. "Chase Elliott spanks Kyle Busch 1v1 in the first race with the bounty on Kyle's head? Kyle didn't really stand a chance, and the perfect redemption after the Darlington Cup race drama." * what a story. woohoo. Don't you think the fact that they faced eachother in Cup since the Darlington incident detracts more than a tiny bit from this? That they already raced for actual points and a better playoff berth? And that Chase beat him there too? It was meaningless this way. Do it in Cup. I know I want to see that. 223. JSPorts posted: 05.27.2020 - 7:07 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) Look at other forms of motorsports. IndyCar drivers don't race in Indy Pro 2000. F1 drivers don't race in F3. Now look at other major sports. MLB players don't play in AA. These are all akin to drivers like Kyle Busch running the Truck Series. 224. 1995-Subaru-WRX-Sti posted: 05.27.2020 - 7:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "The problem is not really the Cup drivers, the problem is Cup teams, with their much greater funding and technical resources, running in the lower series. Back in the day drivers like Harry Gant would run both series, but they'd run for a Busch series car owner, not for a Cup owner. And Dale Earnhardt would run his own car, not Childress's. If I were going to make a change I'd limit car owners to fielding a car in only one series - altho then you'd have the problem of a car owner like Gibbs fielding cars under the KBM name." Correct. Back in the day they ran their stuff or with someone else that wasn't a Cup team. Also throw sponsers into the mix because they would rather sponser a Cup guy then a nobody. Another thing to think about is that if you have a Cup driver in your equipment you earn no owner points. For some reason Cup teams love winning the Xfinity owners title... 225. Corey posted: 05.27.2020 - 7:24 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) NASCAR has announced the lineup and put selection procedure for the next five races. The line up will use the same procedure that was in place at the first Darlington race. Chartered teams will be broken down into groups of 12 based on points and will pick for a spot within the group. (Top 12 teams for spots 1-12 and so on). Open and new teams will be placed behind them. Pit selections will be based of the previous races results. So the winner tonight will get first pick for Bristol. 226. guac_is_extra_ posted: 05.27.2020 - 7:31 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Indeed, even when Mark Martin was doing his thing Roush Racing was not as much ahead of the Busch Series regular teams as Cup teams are today. Of course that changed a lot around 2006. 227. Canadianfan posted: 05.27.2020 - 7:34 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) From Marcus Lemonis: Ok, now it's my turn... @NASCAR @NASCAR_Trucks 25k bounty next race to the winning full time truck CREW... keep it simple .. the front lines get it done... 228. ThatGuy posted: 05.27.2020 - 7:36 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Can we all agree that comment #214 contradicts himself? He seems happy about Chase running a truck, then says that Kyle grinds so much to feed his ego. After saying that "these guys do love to race" which I think applies to Kyle most of all. If anyone is stroking an ego right now it's Chase Elliott. Got back in a truck solely because there was a bounty on Busch. Fair or not he won it, then even took a bow after. And all week people have been talking about how he SHOULD'VE won Darlington 2 and the Coke 600. I wouldn't get too excited, Kyle finished 2nd having to pass 23 trucks in less than 30 laps. Also, Eckes & Lessard finished 14th & 15th (their best finishes of the season), while the other GMS trucks finished 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 13th (13th being damaged from a wreck) 229. RandomFacts posted: 05.27.2020 - 8:07 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Here is a problem with Cuppers running the truck series. Kyle Busch has 20 stage wins in the trucks, thats 20 playoff points he cost truck regulars from receiving for their championship race. Chase took a stage during this race and cost a regular a playoff point. Cuppers running in these races and winning all these stages while not going for the championship themselves is not fair to the regulars at all. Same problem in Xfinity. With stage racing a thing now it makes even less sense for these cup invaders costing precious playoff points to ones that actually belong out there during these supporting series races. 230. Sector posted: 05.27.2020 - 8:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #214 There is nothing to contradict. I never said I was happy for Chase Elliott racing in Trucks, it is the fact that he raced in Trucks for the first time in three years that people are calling for his head for even participating there (even though it's been over 2 months since we all know about the whole bounty thing, it still pisses people off up until he starting leading to the checkered flag). Kyle is Kyle, hence why he races as much as he does in Xfinity & Truck. But who's to say they can't do what they want to do during their spare time? Anyway, the bounty was set by Kevin Harvick as a bonus money he threw in, and it was a fun idea to go race (without a worry about a championship) and beat someone who is constantly winning in the series without much competition (hence feeding his own ego). The fact is everyone on this site seems to fail what "fun" means, because everything is too damn serious as a fan. Why is the term "feeding his ego because he's in a Truck now" applying to Chase Elliott? You should go on Twitter and yell at Kevin Harvick for even offering up money to race in series that isn't Cup. Which is what racers does, because while being there all week at Charlotte and probably had nothing else to do he wanted to race. #222 "If you are here while also having a successful Cup career at the same time, you are a leech. No matter your intentions, you don't belong there." And us fans have a say in the matter because? "It's a different discipline, not the one he's an established, regular driver in." "And What's stopping these "just loves to race people" to dip into say Blancpain America? Or give a go to WoO?" Your question here made it sound like it was a negative path but it could go both ways. Many of the reasons Cup drivers dip to Xfinity & Truck because it isn't that much different than the Cup cars, and most cars are under the same ownership in different series, thus easy money-making. Plus, they are already at the track so they don't need to travel to go to an event further away such as World of Outlaw. Regardless, as I mentioned before they need to race at different tracks on a given weekend to fully die out the Cup drivers racing in this series. When I mentioned contract obligations that was in reference to their car owners as well, as I recall Joe Gibbs said no to Kyle Busch for racing the Indianapolis 500 a few years ago. Jimmie Johnson is retiring and is excited to race in multiple different series starting in 2021, which is what is deemed necessary because of the scheduling conflicts within NASCAR. "Shot your argument in the foot here. Brad was first on the radar after a run in MEMPHIS. One of the races that none of the Cup drivers tended to run and indeed, everyone who was present at the track when he first showed himself to be a big talent belonged there. He may very well have not been able to shine in a one-off if racing against Mark Martin, Kevin Harvick and Kyle Busch and went on the route Cole Whitt and Parker Kligerman had to go down." So it wasn't Iowa beating Kyle or pulling off a three way battle for the win at MIchigan? I recall Brad standing out long before his MEMPHIS win. "So just to clarify, are you stooping down to the level that you start not calling the de facto THIRD TIER of NASCAR a lower series? Please don't. Call me names instead, I take that better." Okay bald head, what level am I stooping here? The series I mentioned before are lower series, because that's what they are. Xfinity and Trucks are national series whereas Cup is the premier series of NASCAR. I really don't see how Xfinity and Trucks are "lower series" when in fact there are series even lower than that. What do you call the series lower than the lower series? The lowest series? Or do we label Trucks as much worth as the regional ARCA East these days? "It's not. Not even close. There's televised, national series in multiple countries. The German package is quite extensive, at one point it included F4(-level), F3, production cars, touring cars, one-make GTs, proper GTs. All in either together or in 2 batches. Guess what didn't happen there? Yeah. Those who made it to DTM didn't play around in DTC or TCR." Please share with me where you find those, because I haven't seen any. Are the streams listed on Reddit? "* what a story. woohoo." That part I brought up was honestly sarcasm, but considering what happened at Darlington, Chase Elliott being the one to stop Kyle Busch's winning streak at 7 is pretty funny. This is a sweet form of revenge that is owed to Kyle, but I agree it's much better in Cup. Did you see how pissed Kyle was after the race when he exited his truck? Still a sore loser. You can tell Chase was teasing him, especially with the bow. 231. Sector posted: 05.27.2020 - 8:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #229 So it's okay for Ross Chastain to do the same as an Xfinity regular and not a Truck regular then? 232. Sector posted: 05.27.2020 - 8:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #229 Besides stage racing in all forms is messed up, and NASCAR could always provide the stage points to the highest finishing series regular as an alternative but they don't. 233. RandomFacts posted: 05.27.2020 - 8:50 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Did not realize Ross was not running points, so no its not right for him to be taking stages as well. 234. Onion posted: 05.27.2020 - 9:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "And us fans have a say in the matter because?" * Because we have an opinion. Nobody important may care, but I have mine, you have yours. We are allowed to voice it and others are allowed to disagree with it or ridicule it if they feel like doing so. That's free speech, no? "So it wasn't Iowa beating Kyle or pulling off a three way battle for the win at MIchigan? I recall Brad standing out long before his MEMPHIS win." lol Memphis, as in 2007 JUNE Memphis... When Brad, a complete nobody thrown around terrible backmarker cars and trucks, was drafted into Germain's #9, qualified on the pole, led a lot and came within 10 laps of winning the thing in a truck Musgrave was struggling a bit with. This led to the JRM contract. "Okay bald head, what level am I stooping here? The series I mentioned before are lower series, because that's what they are. I really don't see how Xfinity and Trucks are "lower series" when in fact there are series even lower than that. What do you call the series lower than the lower series? The lowest series?" First off, it's *cue-ball headed fool*. Second, are you alright? Maybe all of them are lower series. That is because they are on a ladder, below Cup. Yes, ARCA and (old) K&N are all lower series even when compared to the Trucks, but how on Earth would that not mean the Trucks isn't one itself? "Or do we label Trucks as much worth as the regional ARCA East these days?" No. But how about we label it as a lower series, when we are talking about the participation of drivers from Cup, not ARCA? "Please share with me where you find those, because I haven't seen any. Are the streams listed on Reddit? " Germans understand how you put your series out there. No need to search on r/Motorsportstreams, DTM's official Youtube channel has every single race of theirs since the current series started in 2000, both in German and in English. I can suggest the 2017 Norisring races if you want to give it a go to diversify a bit more. The other series I'm talking about are ADAC TCR (similarly, official channel uploads all to Youtube in 2 languages), ADAC GT Masters (same) and ADAC F4 (same). At one point the ladder also consisted of the DTC, a lower-tier touring car series which was a feeder to both DTM and GT Masters. It also has the German Porsche Cup, a direct feeder and constant companion of GT Masters. That one is not always on Youtube though. But since then I thought of the British ladder that is even more of an example. It is multi-tiered (Ginetta Junior -> Ginetta GT4 -> Clio Cup/Mini Cup -> BTCC) They all run during the same weekend at the same track, the BTCC is undsiputedly the top series in the UK and a destination series with all the others acting as feeder series. And here too, nobody from BTCC drops down to the lower leagues to race, let alone drop down two tiers. 235. Mannoroth posted: 05.28.2020 - 12:54 am Rate this comment: (0) (3) 212. Yeah, capiche. You were the one that was confused. 219. Bingo! Someone finally guessed it right. Proof - Má? pravdu, pocházím z ?eské republiky. (You're right, I do come from Czech Republic.) 223. Don't start with it again, because when you get to professional cycling, you will realize that you're wrong. Only difference is that they don't have to dominate some stage race and easily win it, because all they need is to get into form for bigger races. 236. Jason24 posted: 05.28.2020 - 7:08 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @235. Literally shoe horns professional cycling in to the conversation in every other comment. But the thing is; no one cares. And 223 is spot on. 237. Onion posted: 05.28.2020 - 8:30 am Rate this comment: (2) (0) @235 Good thing I also follow cycling and can call you out on your bs... So please do tell me what is the policy towards World Tour teams in .2-level events. Oh right, they are BANNED from that level. Even ProConti is restricted. 238. Canadianfan posted: 05.28.2020 - 11:18 am Rate this comment: (2) (0) From Bob Pockrass: The NASCAR Trucks race from Charlotte on Tuesday averaged 778,000 viewers, up 39% from last year's Friday night race (559,000). It put FS1 as the top cable sports network in prime time Tuesday. 239. ShinyMew151 posted: 05.28.2020 - 11:47 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Imo there is no problem now. Cup guys are super limited in their starts, and have a lot of races they aren't even allowed to run. 240. Mannoroth posted: 05.28.2020 - 11:48 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) 236. No one cares, because they don't watch it and they don't understand it. That's why they think it's a BS, but it isn't and it's quite similar. 237. Professional road cycling is divided into 3 levels - UWT, Pro and 1.1/2.1 category. Every WorldTour team can participate in the races with these ratings and every win from these levels counts as a professional win. WorldTour teams are banned from 1.2/2.2 races, because it's a semiprofessional level, but elite cyclists can compete in this category, if they start as members of their country and not as members of their WorldTour teams. Then we have Pro teams and Continental teams that can run these 1.2/2.2 races, but no matter how many wins they get here, it doesn't count as a professional win. So it's basically like K&N Pro Series, which isn't on the national level like Cup, Xfinity and Trucks. If you think this is a BS, then why Arnaud Démare had to participate in the 2018 Tour Poitou-Charentes en Nouvelle Aquitaine, where he won all 5 stages along with the general classification? Or Alessandro Petacchi that did the same thing during the 2006 Niedersachsen-Rundfahrt? Both those races were on the 2.1 level. That wasn't that much different from Kyle Busch winning all 5 races in Trucks in 2019... 241. Canadianfan posted: 05.28.2020 - 11:59 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) @239 I personally would like to see a further reduction to three for the truck series. The Xfinity series can remain at 5. 242. Anonymous posted: 05.28.2020 - 12:24 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I say ban them from the lower series entirely. The Darlington Xfinity race and Charlotte truck race are outliers, not the norm. Usually the leeches dominate and it makes for a boring race. 243. Canadianfan posted: 05.28.2020 - 12:48 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @242 I think it's important to live in the world of realism they've been there since 1995 in the truck series in fact in the first race 3 of the Top 5 finishers were Cup regulars one of which, Terry Labonte was driving for HMS. On the Xfinity side of things they've been there long before we have stats for it. You can go on thethirdturn and you'll see full-time Cup drivers racing at Daytona as early as the 60's. 244. Anonymous posted: 05.28.2020 - 1:21 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Just because it's gone on for a long time doesn't mean it's okay. 245. Mannoroth posted: 05.28.2020 - 1:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) 241. Well, I guess there's a reason why they haven't changed that number in Trucks for the 3 straight year and that is Kyle Busch and his words about closing KBM, if NASCAR doesn't allow him to play with his toys (in other words, to let him race at least few times). 243. Heh, you would be surprised, how many races Darrell Waltrip or Harry Gant really won. From all the available results, it's still not enough to surpass Kyle, but their number of wins isn't small at all. 246. DRF posted: 05.28.2020 - 2:17 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) 244- bingo. Most fans can't grasp this notion. 247. Bodyblower posted: 05.28.2020 - 4:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Why are the 5, 03, 34, 55, 14, and 75 teams that failed to make the race not on the owner points standings? 248. Yeet posted: 05.28.2020 - 6:39 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @247 because of the special circumstances where these drivers were "excluded" as opposed to a traditional DNQ they are not on the list. They only are on them if they are legitimate attempts. 249. Bodyblower posted: 05.28.2020 - 7:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That doesn't make much sense. 250. Luke posted: 05.28.2020 - 10:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) How was Maury Gallagher allowed to field 5 trucks for this race? I thought teams were only allowed to field 4 entries for a race. 251. ShinyMew151 posted: 05.28.2020 - 10:50 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Its only a rule in cup 252. ShinyMew151 posted: 05.28.2020 - 10:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Turner Motorsports had six trucks in a race once, even 253. Bodyblower posted: 06.01.2020 - 11:37 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Why don't they just add the 5, 03, 34, 14, 55, and 75 teams in the owner points standings? 254. rm posted: 06.01.2020 - 12:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) My guess would be that they're refusing the entries from those teams and not counting these races as attempts for the teams, returning the entry forms & entry fees to those teams since they're not even getting a chance to qualify. Can't substantiate that at all, but I'll call it an educated guess, how about that 255. TeamDCRfan posted: 06.01.2020 - 12:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Though it hasn't been released yet, Affarano has confirmed that the 03 won't race Atlanta either and that he's looking forward to the return of qualifying. Norm Benning is also on the fence about entering, and he's looking at doing some dirt racing should NASCAR continue to be a struggle. 256. Bodyblower posted: 06.01.2020 - 12:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) They could just not give them owner points like they do when cars DNQ. 257. S&PCars posted: 06.01.2020 - 1:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Norm is 41st in owners, all he needs is someone top 40 not to show up, Which is the problem with the system that is being used, only 40 guys have points, so all 40 will make it, Norm and the others can't run until someone in the top 40 doesn't enter, which likely won't Happen. 258. rm posted: 06.01.2020 - 2:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Not sure why Affarano & co. would look forward to qualifying coming back, they're not making the show on speed or on points. And as for Norm, it's getting hard to feel bad for him when he's routinely in the bottom three trucks on speed and, often, the slowest altogether. When you're getting parked by NASCAR multiple times each season, that should be a sign that you're probably in over your head now. Also, the owner points handout post-Charlotte shows Norm as 43rd and last for the 2020 season. 259. ThatGuy posted: 06.01.2020 - 3:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) @250 Everything I've read you're allowed to run 4 full time entries and 1 part time entry, across all 3 national series. I've been told (possibly by ShinyMew151, I don't remember) that there is no rule for trucks and I've never been given a source or link with it. And Turner did field 6 trucks...once...back in 2013 260. cba2442 posted: 06.01.2020 - 4:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 259) You are only allowed 4 entries in Cup, no 5th part time is allowed anymore due to the charter system. There is no limit in Xfinity or Trucks. 261. ShinyMew151 posted: 06.01.2020 - 6:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That was me you saw say it, and for a more recent example, RCR had five full time cars in Xfinity in 2017. I never really read that it's differeny, just seen it from a few examples 262. ThatGuy posted: 06.01.2020 - 7:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I don't remember where I read it, one was nascar.com but the way it was worded was as if it applied to all 3 series. I don't know, I just haven't noticed many or any teams having more than 4, I watch the xfinity series the least, and barely watched it in 2017, so yea, I definitely missed the Childress 5. Since I started paying closer attention to finer details of drivers & teams Childress has gone down to a 1 car Xfinity team. Like Roush, it's crazy how big their teams were, and how small they got 263. Canadianfan posted: 06.05.2020 - 11:39 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) From Chase Elliott: A lot of y'all have been asking about the bounty money and what I decided to do with it, so here's where we landed: @KevinHarvick 50k - Feed the Children Covid 19 response. @marcuslemonis and @CampingWorld 50k - 25k to the Res Cross AND 25k to @KyleBusch Foundation. 264. thog posted: 01.20.2021 - 7:41 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I thought it would have been pretty cool to allow the drivers ineligible by owner points to tag the back of the field and just be required to park at the end of stage 1. It probably wouldn't be the SAFEST option (47 trucks at Charlotte? yikes), but it would have secured any team a spot in future races. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Post a comment:* Your comment may not appear immediately - all comments must be approved by the moderator. Name: Comment: