|| *Comments on the 1959 Rebel 300:* View the most recent comment <#14> | Post a comment <#post> Tweet 1. john havick posted: 05.08.2008 - 8:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Regarding the May 9, 1959 Darlington convertible race. I have in hand the newspaper coverage, and it says another driver finished 12th and there is no mention of Beauchamp. I am wondering how these records appeared? Who furnished them? I seriously doubt Beauchamp drove in this race for Lee Petty? Does anyone have other information about this? 2. Anonymous posted: 05.08.2008 - 9:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Greg Fielden's "Rumbling Ragtops" was the data source for this race, and he shows Beauchamp 12th and specifically mentions in his story about the race that Beauchamp was driving the #43 for Petty that day. 3. john havick posted: 06.26.2008 - 6:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I would say that we have two different sources disagreeing. The Reading newspaper covering the event and reporting the following day says otherwise. Greg Fielden may be correct, but what are his sources? 4. 21277Penske posted: 05.27.2010 - 3:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) DNF Richard Petty (#2 '57 Oldsmobile) G.C. Spencer (#34 '57 Chevrolet) Gene White (#25 '57 Chevrolet) Tommy Irwin (#36 '59 T-Bird) Buck Baker (#87 '59 Chevrolet) Shep Langdon (#64 '58 Ford) Curtis Turner (#41 '59 T-Bird) Buck Brigance (#39 '57 Chevrolet) Jack Smith (#47 '59 Chevrolet) Bobby Lee (#30 '58 Ford) Wilbur Rakestraw (#92 '57 Ford) Elmo Langley (#10 '59 Buick) Tom Pistone (#59 '59 T-Bird) 5. Anonymous posted: 12.30.2012 - 6:41 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Also J.M. Petty is most likely J.H. Petty. 6. nascar_vd / racing-reference.info posted: 03.31.2017 - 10:42 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) V1959-08 Driver standings after this race: (top25) 1) Joe Lee Johnson = 3688 points 2) Larry Frank = 3272 3) Gene White = 2840 4) Ken Rush = 2728 5) Brownie King = 2440 6) Marvin Panch = 2424 7) Shorty Rollins = 2152 8) Wilbir Rakestraw = 2096 9) Jimmy Thompson = 2056 10) Richard Petty = 1968 11) Joe Eubanks = 1896 12) Glen Wood = 1872 13) Ben Benz = 1712 14) George Green = 1424 15) Joe Weatherly = 1360 16) Billy Carden = 1304 17) Gober Sosebee = 1064 18) Paul Bass = 1008 19) Roy Tyner = 928 20) Pete Kelly = 800 21) Fireball Roberts = 800 22) Bob Said = 800 23) Bob Welborn = 736 24) G.C. Spencer = 616 25) Johnny Allen = 608 7. SteveR posted: 02.27.2020 - 7:35 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) There is a short video clip of an unknown driver pounding the inside wall and flipping over. Any idea who this was? I am assuming it was Curtis Turner or Gene White. 8. Danish_Pie posted: 02.27.2020 - 8:01 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Fred Lorenzen pounded the wall and flipped in the 1962 Rebel 300, the last convertible race in NASCAR. Not sure if that was the clip you saw. 9. MSportRev posted: 12.10.2020 - 8:44 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsor for Shep Langdon: Langdon's Service Station Source: https://twitter.com/basso488/status/1337004136286412800?s=21 10. ScottB posted: 12.28.2020 - 1:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'll add some more mystery to this. The race day program for the event has several discrepancies from the results here. Jack Smith is listed as starting 6th and Bob Welborn starting 7th (reversed from what is show here). More strikingly, 5 drivers were listed differently that the results here. These are the drivers shown in the program: Tiny Lund in the #39 Chevy instead of Buck Brigance Joe Caspolich in the #4 Chevy instead of Ken Rush L.D. Austin in the #74 Chevy instead of George Green Jimmy Pardue in the #43 Olds, instead of Johnny Beauchamp George Alsobrook in the #92 Ford, instead of Wilbur Rakestraw. So which is correct? Brigance, Rush, Green, and Rakestraw all have ties to the owners listed here from other races. So, did they actually drive in this race, or somewhere along the line was that just assumed to be correct because of the previous links? Each of the alternate drivers (Lund, Caspolich, Austin and Pardue) also seem perfectly reasonable fits in those rides. The case of the #43 is even more difficult to solve. This was a one-off deal no matter who was in the third Petty Enterprises car that day. They year, make, car numbers, and starting positions in the program agree with what is shown here, only the driver names differ in those 5 cases. I don't know the answers, but this shows how fluid the driver line-ups were at the time and how casual the record keeping was. 11. MSportRev posted: 12.28.2020 - 3:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And to add to what @10 posted, Curtis Turner's car was qualified by Joe Weatherly. per Ultimate Racing History, which is usually based on a combination of local news accounts and Greg Fielden's data. I don't know if that means Turner qualified both his own car and Weatherly's car or if they swapped cars after qualifying. 12. ScottB posted: 12.28.2020 - 5:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) MSportRev, The race program shows qualifying speeds for 27 of the 34 entries, with 7 drivers listed as DNQ's, including Weatherly's. Yet all 34 of the cars that entered, actually got to take the green flag. The qualifying times are four lap runs, which I see is mentioned in the Ultimate site's footnotes for the event. The times and speeds in the race program do match up correctly with that. I don't know how the rest of the field was set. It could have been by points or by way of a consolation/last chance race, but I haven't seen any evidence of the latter. It's possible that Turner practiced Weatherly's car, but didn't actually make a qualifying run. 13. ScottB posted: 12.28.2020 - 5:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I know this is bringing up a ghost comment from 2008, but am I correct in thinking Greg Fielden's books relied heavily on the annual NASCAR yearbooks for statistical information from the early days? I used to have some of his series, but I gave them away when all that info started turning up on the internet. 14. possum posted: 12.28.2020 - 7:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @10 - the raceday program would have had to have been printed at least a day before the race, so it would seem more likely that it's incorrect than a post-race finishing order. @12 - the practices of the day being what they were back then, the remaining cars were possibly "promoters option" with the starting order set by the promoter. @13 - I seem to recall being told that the NASCAR yearbook data for the earlier years was not especially accurate. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Post a comment:* Your comment may not appear immediately - all comments must be approved by the moderator. Name: Comment: