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  1.   Anonymous posted:
  10.03.2005 - 4:11 am
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congrats to dale jarret for getting ford into talladega victory lane.


  2.   HomeDepotKid posted:
  10.03.2005 - 4:12 am
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THAT was one of the wildest races I've seen in a while. WTG Dale Jarrett!


  3.   Chicago posted:
  10.03.2005 - 4:22 am
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This was basically an explanation on why restrictor plate races are a
danger that needs to be looked at ...

Jimmie Johnson (now having been directly responsible for three bad
crashes at Talladega) turns pole-sitter Elliott Sadler going into turn
one, sending Sadler sideways and collecting Earnhardt, Jr., right behind
them, and Mark Martin. Martin then spins across the track and nails Mike
Waltrip in his right rear quarterpanel, who had no where to go,
launching him dead right and airborne, barrel rolling twice on the
track, almost landing on top of the turn one wall, ripping the entire
rear axle out of the car, before he came to rest on the grass next to
Mike Skinner's Ford. The only thing that saved Waltrip from injury is
that the twenty some cars behind him managed to dodge his Chevrolet.

The second major incident of the day; Ryan Newman, showing that he needs
to learn how to use his brake pedal or lift off the accelerator, and
also needs lessons on how to make more worthwhile excuses, flat out
wrecks Casey Mears, who blocks off the entire track and ends up being
hit by both Greg Biffle and Rusty Wallace; Rusty gets turned left and
into the right rear quarterpanel of Scott Riggs, which sends his car
dead right, hitting the trioval wall hard at nearly two hundred miles
per hour, the sheer force of the impact sending his car over, onto his
roof, then hitting the flat of the trioval before turn one and going end
over end over end. Mike Wallace spun through the inside and Jeff Burton,
also with damage, ended up having to turn his car hard right to miss
being landed on by Riggs. Only luck kept Riggs from serious injury.

The only redeeming factor in this race is that a classy guy like Dale
Jarrett pulled off a gutsy move on the last lap - the race ended in the
middle of turn three after the caution came out for a Kyle Petty spin on
the backstretch (why?) to defeat Stewart, and Kenseth (who led at the
white).

Obviously NASCAR cares more about the money they get from the redneck
beer drinking illegible crowd of Alabama residents who go to Talladega
to get drunk, see the strippers in the infield, and pray to see thirty
some cars end up on the apron in flames, than the safety of the drivers
who have made the sport what it is today. The cars are too equal -
everyone's afraid to lift, because you'll lose twenty some spots and end
up in the "danger zone" for the big crash. So that is what we have now.
A recipe for disaster.

Talladega was not built for this. Either let the cars go faster and
spread them out - cars might get airborne and the licks into the fence
might be hard, but you won't have twenty cars trying to dodge an
airborne one ... or slow the cars down even further and let them sit in
one big pack. The big wrecks will still be there, but they won't be as
dangerous and you won't see as many airborne cars.

Just my two cents.


  4.   Thedupontman posted:
  10.03.2005 - 10:53 am
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When will this season end. the only good thing about today was my NFL
Team Won, guess I going to start watching the NFL.


  5.   STbastien posted:
  10.03.2005 - 12:11 pm
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congratulation to Dale Jarrett ! :)


  6.   Mike D posted:
  10.03.2005 - 11:25 pm
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The only good thing that came out of this race was the win for Jarrett.


  7.   Jake posted:
  10.04.2005 - 3:04 am
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Congrats to DJ for winning for the first time in 2 1/2 years.


  8.   CBCMikeyfan posted:
  10.04.2005 - 4:52 am
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Riggs' crash reminded me a lot of Earnhardt's wreck in '96, the way he
hit the wall and flipped. As for what to do about the plate races, it
just seems that the bump drafting is causing all the problems. Maybe,
like Benny said yesterday, do away with all the reinforcements on the
bumpers and make them put flimsy ones on there, that way if they bump
draft, they're essentially done for the day.


  9.   Brian posted:
  10.04.2005 - 2:57 pm
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That's a nice idea, only thing is I feel bump drafting will still happen
and then we'll have 43 cars gone by the end.

The only TRUE perfect solution is to get rid of the plates, which would
mean flattening the turns.
That or get rid of Daytona and Talladega...


  10.   Eric posted:
  10.04.2005 - 8:58 pm
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After watching tape of the accident that occurred 20 laps into the race,
Johnson said he realized he ran into the back of leader Elliott Sadler
to start the wreck. Johnson initially claimed he was pushed into Sadler
by Dale Earnhardt Jr.

"I feel bad, I don't know what else I can say,'' Johnson said. "I
started a wreck and took out a lot of good cars. That was the last thing
I intended to do and I feel horrible for it. So I'm taking the
responsibility.

"I needed to see the video to really understand what took place.''


  11.   Brian posted:
  10.05.2005 - 2:03 am
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I used to like plate racing. I found it exciting, but the last few years
it has become nothing but a wreck fest. I really despise the idea of
having a plate race in the final 10 races. I understand they need a
little of everything, but it's just too uncontrollable.

Again, we have to remove banking. You can't just take the plates off and
let them race at 220+ mph. If they do get airborne what if a car was to
clear the fence? An unlikely scenario, but if it were to happen...well
lets not think about that.


  12.   Mike D posted:
  10.05.2005 - 2:10 am
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This race flat out sucked. Congrats to Dale though.

I have a soultion to the restrictor plate problem. The cars go too fast?
Well that's because they became so aerodynamic. I say at Daytona and
Talladega they should use the old 1970's cars! The drag should
compensate for the engine power.


  13.   STbastien posted:
  10.05.2005 - 7:41 pm
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...A small unrestricted V6 could be the solution.


  14.   Mike D posted:
  10.05.2005 - 10:36 pm
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I've thought about using less powerful engines. But wouldn't having a
"maximum" power of the engine or restricting to a certain type be the
same as restrictor plates?
Every car would be running an identical strength engine...I'd imagien
that would keep them bunched up. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, I'm
not good with things like that.


  15.   larry spencer posted:
  10.06.2005 - 9:48 pm
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Good job DJ I think they should take the plates off and let them go 230


  16.   Jr Fan posted:
  10.08.2005 - 12:23 am
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Dude, would you like to be sitting along the frontstretch at Talladega
or Daytona eating a hot dog and drinking your pepsi with your family,
suddenly your family gets wiped out along with thousands of other
spectators. That would probably be the final NASCAR race too.

I like the idea of racing the cars from the 70's also. They are cheaper.
Plus that was some of the best racing ever in NASCAR, 1ike the 1976 and
1979 Daytona 500's. Sligshot moves would me the nicest thing to see.
Talladega and Daytona created great dules in NASCAR too.


  17.   Jr Fan posted:
  10.08.2005 - 1:36 am
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On July 25, 1993 the late Neil Bonnett did the same thing in the trioval
as Babby Allison did. Neil WAS using the restrictor plate.


  18.   Mike D posted:
  10.08.2005 - 8:01 pm
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Glad someone liked my 70's idea.
Good point with Bonnett, which is way we need smaller engines/less
banking/ or 70's cars!
Even with plates on the speeds are dangerous.


  19.   Mike D posted:
  10.11.2005 - 8:03 pm
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Noobs? First, why must you use that horrible destruction of the English
language? Second, I AM glad Dale won. Third, this race was sucked. I
didn't even find it exciting. What happened to the 40 some lead changes
of races past?

Oh and I have been watching NASCAR for a long time. So you're calling me
a "noob"? I mean look at you, putting down nascar....it's capital
letters you know.
You n00b


  20.   Mike D posted:
  10.11.2005 - 8:05 pm
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One more thing to add. There was not one comma or period in your comment.
Just saying...


  21.   Chicago posted:
  10.13.2005 - 3:09 am
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About ~ 40 lead changes ... remember, the 600 earlier this year had over
40 and that wasn't much of a race. :)

If Bobby Allison had gone into the stands in '87, Talladega would've
been the largest pasture and parking lot in Alabama and it would've been
the end of competitive automobile racing in the United States. Remember,
after what happened in Le Mans in '55, Switzerland completely banned
auto racing. If eighty or ninety or a hundred spectators - certainly a
possibility with the way Allison's car was spiraling toward the
catchfence - were killed, would it have been such a stretch to see
something like that happen in the United States?

Also an excellent point on how Neil Bonnett took an eerily similar
header into the catchfence in '93. My view has always been - keep the
packs bunched up together, the law of averages dictates cars will get
airborne, and the law of averages dictates a car will eventually fly
into the stands.

The problem with plate racing - two problems, really. The tracks were
made to be the fastest, but never to contain a pack of fourty-three cars
running inches away from each other for five hundred miles, and the cars
are just too equal. Everyone is afraid to lift or tap the brake or pull
out of line because they're going to lose five, ten, twenty positions.

The solution? Not so sure. I don't think just eliminating "slam -
drafting" as Earnhardt, Jr. coined it would help matters.

I think we need to make the cars drive worse. Increase the speeds, 200 -
205, bring handling back into the equation. Daytona is not nearly as bad
as Talladega because Daytona is very difficult to run full throttle
around ... at 'dega, it's all about raw speed, not handling. Totally
remove most if not all of the fender bracing. If you split up the packs,
let them go a bit faster, bring handling back into the equation ... Eh,
I don't know. I doubt we'll see any major changes, as the illiterate
Alabama faithful come to see thirty cars smashed aflame in the infield,
wasted by halfway, more interested in the strippers in the infield and
in front of them - then those same idiots jump onto the highway and,
thinking they're Bill Elliott doing a qualifying run in '87, kill someone.


  22.   Mike D posted:
  10.13.2005 - 2:55 pm
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Yea that's the worst part. No changes will be made. As you said, people
enjoy seeing the 20+ car crashes.
Anyway, you're right there's no real good solutions. I've presented my
ideas already so I won't say them again.


  23.   Jr. Fan posted:
  10.13.2005 - 9:48 pm
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Good point about Le Mans.


  24.   D posted:
  11.12.2005 - 2:53 am
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Chicago wrote:
"Obviously NASCAR cares more about the money they get from the redneck
beer drinking illegible crowd of Alabama residents who go to Talladega
to get drunk..."

Illegible? You mean nobody could see them? Or do you mean illiterate?
Either way, you're an idiot.


  25.   Gus T. posted:
  11.12.2005 - 3:15 pm
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Like someone else said, I used to like plate-racing. But this
bump-drafting stuff is ruining it. Make the front bumpers a little
weaker, or get rid of the plates.


  26.   CBCMikeyfan posted:
  11.26.2005 - 3:58 am
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I don't know if that was me you were referring to or not, Gus, but it's
the drivers that are making the mistakes. Restrictor plates don't just
automatically cause big wrecks. There have been many races where big
wrecks didn't happen. My suggestion is go back to the package where they
had the roof fin and the wicker on the rear spoiler. They didn't really
need to bump draft then because they could get runs on people and
actually pass them without much help. Made for good racing, too.


  27.   Thomas posted:
  12.01.2005 - 9:17 am
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CBCMikeyfan, you are absolutely correct. The roof fins were awesome. The
races had 49 or so lead changes, and there weren't as many crashes, and
little or no bump drafting. And for any of you who criticize Alabama
fans, come on, just grow up. If they didn't want to see a good race,
then they would not have come. They didn't come to see strippers in the
infield.


  28.   Matthew Sullivan posted:
  12.22.2005 - 4:15 am
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This race marked the first time since 1997 that an Earnhardt did not win
at a restrictor plate track. Funnily enough, with Dale Jarrett's win,
the streak of a driver named "Dale" winning at a restrictor plate track
continues, this being the eighth year in a row.


  29.   Gus T. posted:
  12.28.2005 - 3:16 pm
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I agree with you CBCMikey that the plates don't cause the crashes. I
remember great plate races as well, even as late as 2004. The problem is
that the drivers aren't willing to tap the break early in the race, and
would rather slam into somebody, than lose a few positions. And the way
things are looking, they're just going to keep wrecking until somebody
does something.


  30.   Anonymous posted:
  01.14.2006 - 11:02 pm
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This is actually the 10th year in a row that a 'Dale' won a plate race.
The streak started in 1996 with Dale Jarrett's second Daytona 500 victory.


  31.   Steve posted:
  03.14.2006 - 9:19 pm
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Mike D, I think you're going to get your wish in 2008 or 2009 when the
"Car of Tomorrow" (COT) debuts on restrictor plate tracks. One of the
aerodynamic changes to the COT makes the cars bigger and boxier, more
like the cars from the 70's. I personally like the 2001 aero package.
Record lead changes, few cautions (a grand total of 8 in all four plate
races), and great racing! Not sure why they got rid of it.

Uh, D, Chicago DID say illiterate, not illegible.

Speaking of racing from the 70's, I love that new show "Back In the Day"
with Junior. One of the races they showed featured Ricky Rudd, making
his 3rd career start. The show is on Mondays at 9PM Eastern on SPEED.
I'll bet there's at least 5 drivers in one of those races that you've
never even heard of. (There were for me!)


  32.   Steve posted:
  06.13.2006 - 10:48 pm
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Kurt Busch was leading when he hit the wall in Turn 4. He rallied back
to finish eigth! Bobby Hamilton Jr drove Bob Jenkins' (not from ESPN)
car after failing to qualify. I don't know what the point of this was;
he had failed to qualify earlier in the year without getting into
another car. Tony Raines finished 22nd, his best of the year, and the
only Top 25 finish for the team that was NOT scored by Kevin Lepage.


  33.   Thomas posted:
  07.19.2006 - 4:07 pm
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The Bobby Hamilton Jr. deal was weird, and it was the opening of yet
another Pandora's Box that would continue to the Coke 600 in 2006 where
after failing to qualify, Michael Waltrip "bought" the #74 car driven by
Derrike Cope, yet put NAPA and #55 on it. What happened at Talladega in
October 2005 was this: Bobby Hamilton Jr. failed to qualify his #32 Tide
Chevrolet for owner Cal Wells. Wells had a factory support deal with
Chevy, so he had to find another Chevy that made the race. The only
other non-full time Chevy team (besides Kerry Earnhardt) was that of
Mike Skinner's #00 Aaron's Chevy. So, Bobby actually ran the #00 car
with Tide on it, however, since fans and the corporation are familiar
with the Tide car being #32, they changed the number to 32. Hermie
Sadler drove an unsponsored #34 Ford and made the race, but gave up his
ride to Mike Skinner, who had the big-time Aaron's deal. Hence, Skinner
actually drove the #34 Ford, but once again, since people were used to
seeing the #00 "Aaron's Dream Machine", they ran the number 00.


  34.   Thomas posted:
  07.24.2006 - 4:12 pm
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By the way, I don't know what was more exciting about this race: the
crashes (admit it, they are fun to watch every once in a while), the
battle for the win that was eventually soured by an idiotic yellow flag,
or Kyle Petty's triumphant and successful attempt to cross the finish
line after crashing to bring out that aforementioned rogue caution flag
that ended the race.


  35.   Rusty posted:
  07.26.2006 - 5:41 am
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"The only TRUE perfect solution is to get rid of the plates, which would
mean flattening the turns.
That or get rid of Daytona and Talladega..."

Get rid of Daytona???? For what another cookie cutter, you surely arent
a true race fan if you even consider getting rid of the birthplace of
NASCAR.........


  36.   Brian posted:
  10.16.2006 - 11:18 pm
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I am a true fan. Hence the ...afterwards because obviously you could
never get rid of those tracks.


  37.   Brock posted:
  01.16.2007 - 7:29 pm
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. . .and Kyle Petty finished running, limping his annihilated #45 across
the line after crashing hard on the backstretch to bring out the final
caution!


  38.   Anonymous posted:
  03.07.2007 - 6:29 pm
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"By the way, I don't know what was more exciting about this race: the
crashes (admit it, they are fun to watch every once in a while)"

Yeah, especially if a driver is almost injured (David Ruetimann's crash
last week was my favorite, the way he was all hunched over was so cool!)
I love it when drivers are injured it's so exciting and fun to watch.
Especially when the cars flip over and the cars go into 1 million
pieces. My favorite crash was Geoff Bodine in the 2000 Daytona CTS race.
Boy that was fun to watch!

Idiot.


  39.   Steve.M. posted:
  05.24.2007 - 9:40 pm
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Rusty Wallace actually held the points lead during this race when
Johnson got in the 1st big wreck and blew a tire. Looked as if Wallace
was gonna be great but then during the 2nd big one he just got his nose
cliped by someone and screwed up his race to a 25th and droped in
points. I still had faith in old rusty but it wasnt to be in 2005. Was
real fun to see him up there though.


  40.   JarrettFan44 posted:
  08.22.2007 - 4:52 am
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I pray to God that this is not gonna DJ's last win I hope he can pull at
least one more off


  41.   James W. McLaughlin posted:
  08.25.2007 - 2:33 pm
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Parts of this race were used in the "Talladega Nights" movie. Am I right?


  42.   DieselDan posted:
  12.10.2007 - 4:39 am
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To fix the speeds at Talladega, plow the turns down to a more reasonable
23 degrees, or a parabolic 20-26 degrees like Homestead.

NASCAR's R&D has Rusty Wallace test a car there without a restrictor
plate before he retired. He was averaging 248mph a lap and was pale with
fear when he got out of the car.


  43.   Mr. Big posted:
  05.18.2008 - 2:33 pm
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Maybe the best race of 2005.

Filled with excitement, and Dale's move is something I still remember
even now.


  44.   Steve.M. posted:
  06.09.2008 - 8:51 pm
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Offically now Dale Jarrett's Final Cup Series Win


  45.   Clayton posted:
  08.31.2008 - 9:19 am
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the Call was much like Jarrett's career "and on the high side is....
DALE JARRETT! Where did he come from?"

He came out of nowhere, that's what makes Dale so great!!


  46.   Anonymous posted:
  02.16.2010 - 2:24 am
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Probably Yates Racing's final win in the Cup series along with Jarett's.


  47.   Destroyahirismix666 posted:
  09.07.2010 - 4:29 pm
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Hmm, i see a ton of comments on how plate racing shoulda been done away
with, and i think we all saw out that played out in this same race 4
years later, not much difference, two cars flipped, two big ones, race
still ended under caution, Kurt Busch still crashed in both events.

Geez. Why is everyone knocking this race, and JJ? This has got to be the
greatest NASCAR race I've ever known! And JJ has got to be the greatest
Driver Nascar has had since King Richard, surpassing even the late Dale
Earndhart.


  48.   joey2448 posted:
  04.25.2011 - 3:11 am
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Oh if only the NASCAR fans of 2005 could see the kind of racing we have
now....the two car tandem draft.


  49.   Destroyahirismix666 posted:
  04.25.2011 - 9:20 am
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Re-reading the comments, the ideas to do away with this is pretty stupid.

Knock off banking at Talladega and Daytona: What!? And have a over-sized
Kansas or Charlotte? I like both tracks alot, but we'd be looking at
more cookie-cutters, nevertheless more than likely, we'll get an
over-sized Michigan, which is probably the worst and most overrated
track on the schedule outside of Vegas and Cali.

Weaken the bumpers: Wanna see Indy cars race at Chicago? That's what
you'd get. Granted, IZOD @ Chicago is fun, but one tap, and it's over.
You'd still have the huge crashes and big flips. Anyone remember 2010
there? So realistically, that won't change much.

Bring back 1970's Stock cars: Sure, sure. Very nice. Save for the fact
that...They weren't safe. The number of fatalities and bad injuries from
the 1970's and early 80's were terrible. Remember the 1979 Don Williams'
fatal crash? It sure seems A-LOT like a modern day plate race, ton of
cars crashing, and huge near flips with flames. Despite how 'retero' and
how much fan-base would be brought back, it's to risky. And it would
cost to much to make one certain type of car for 32 races of the season,
and 7 others with this.

Take these tracks off the schedule: Wait, what? Daytona is the
birthplace of NASCAR, Daytona beach was great, and Daytona had that
amazing caution free run in 1959 with that amazing 3-wide finish! Get
rid of that history!? Talladega has brought us some any great memories
and side-by-side finishes that it can't be eliminated! Should we ditch
that history also? Should we also knock off Martinsville, Infenion,
Watkins Glen, Darlington and Bristol while we are at it, to make it 1.5
mile after 1.5 mile 30 times over!? We've had bad crashes at those
tracks, and who remembers the 1948 incident where at Martinsville a car
did a slow-style flip into the stands? Ken Schrader's roll over in 1999
was horrible, and he was trapped under the car! Gordon's crash in 2009
at the Glen was evil, and Johnson's in 2000 was bad! Jr.s scared out of
his pants of Darlington, and Jr. knows best, so ditch it, and we don't
want anything to do with Rusty Wallace's near-fatal flip there at
Bristol Tennessee!
See the double-speak?

Install small, unrestricted v-6 engines: OH yes, sure! Who remembers the
flip into Lake Loyd in 1994 in the dash series with a V-4 engine?
Remember then bad incidents the v-6 brought us in the Busch *Now
nationwide* Series? Anyone? I sure do! And like I said earlier, it would
cost to much to make one certain type of car for 32 races of the season,
and 7 others with this.

And my issue with commentor #38: What an idiot. Granted, alot of people
enjoy the huge crashes! Is that a sin? DO you want to watch a Running
race where ntohing exciting happens? OH, THey're going fast, I like it!
THere's a lead chagne!
Seriously??? People like you are the stereotype JJ's sucks, Jr *OR kyle,
it alternates* it's going to win 50 championships and 8,000 races,
Talladega should be knocked off with Daytona, and we should only go to
places where said 88 and 18 can win! Which counters your own point,
because those drivers do best at super-speedways and short tracks. Idiot.

Still, the greatest NASCAR race ever. Period.


  50.   Rusty posted:
  05.09.2011 - 7:13 pm
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Kerry Earnhardt's last Cup race as of 2011.


  51.   Destroyahirismix666 posted:
  04.30.2012 - 10:02 am
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Ehhh, okay, maybe not the greatest race ever, but one of the better ones.


  52.   Daniel posted:
  05.24.2012 - 11:21 am
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In using fastest 43: #09 Johnny Sauter & #32 Bobby Hamilton Jr.

Out using fastest 43: #2 Rusty Wallace & #29 Kevin Harvick


  53.   CBASS posted:
  01.20.2013 - 9:48 pm
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  54.   b4il3y posted:
  05.25.2014 - 3:47 am
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After all this ... things havent changed a bit :)


  55.   Nascar Lead Lap Points posted:
  08.01.2014 - 1:48 pm
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  56.   Schroeder51 posted:
  09.27.2014 - 11:49 pm
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The fifth caution of this race was for the #5 of Kyle Busch hitting the
turn 4 wall, not the #45 of Kyle Petty.


  57.   JJ24 posted:
  07.05.2015 - 9:09 pm
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Last Career Win for Dale Jarrett


  58.   NASCARLover22 posted:
  08.11.2015 - 7:55 pm
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Sponsor update:
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  59.   RaceFanX posted:
  09.12.2015 - 11:00 pm
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This ultimately proved to be Kerry Earnhardt's final Cup start.


  60.   numbah10hatah posted:
  01.02.2016 - 11:17 am
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Why is Bobby Hamilton Jr. in the results and the DNQ list?


  61.   numbah10hatah posted:
  01.02.2016 - 11:25 am
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Okay, so I found on Wikipedia that Hamilton Jr DNQ'd, then his team
bought the #92 that Skinner qualified, then put on the Tide logos and
put Hamilton in it...so doesn't that mean that Hamilton Jr. actually
drove the #92 in the race? It also says that Skinner's team bought the
#34 that Hermie Sadler qualified...so doesn't that mean that Skinner
drove the #34 car in the race, and Hermie Sadler withdrew in the #00?


  62.   kevin20fan posted:
  01.04.2016 - 8:59 pm
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Hamilton Jr. and Skinner still carried the #32 and #00 in the race
despite purchasing the rides from other teams. That's why Bob Jenkins is
listed as the owner of Hamilton's car when his original entry was
fielded by Cal Wells. It's just another one of those confusing
situations created by NASCAR allowing the teams to play these games with
numbers/owner points/ride-buying etc.


  63.   Big Mac Fan posted:
  01.28.2016 - 9:28 pm
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Dale Jarrett's only points paying win with the UPS logo created in 2003.
The other 7 came with the logo created in 1961 by Paul Rand.


  64.   Braindead Zombie posted:
  06.30.2016 - 12:14 pm
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Jeff Burton's on-board during the second big one is one of the scariest
things I've ever seen. As he spun towards Riggs' flipping car it looked
like he was driving into a tornado. Can't even imagine what Jeff was
thinking.


  65.   Maverick11 posted:
  07.18.2016 - 2:22 pm
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In the 2nd big one, Kurt Busch just barely got by a spinning Casey
Mears. Had he been a foot to the right, we could've had two Scott
Riggs-esque crashes in one wreck...


  66.   Jim posted:
  09.12.2016 - 1:57 pm
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last race for J.J. Yeley in the JGR #11


  67.   Jason24 posted:
  09.12.2016 - 2:40 pm
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#41 That is correct, re-watching the broadcast years later you could see
the pit stall that was being used for filming. You could also see Will
Ferrell in the background during pre race interviews with some of the
drivers.


  68.   Luke posted:
  04.21.2018 - 3:47 am
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So we should put Hermie Sadler No. 34 Ford as Withdrew since he gave up
his ride to Skinner run (and Skinner changed the number to 00 but still
use the owners points)


  69.   Bob posted:
  05.31.2018 - 5:36 pm
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@68 No. 34 Hermie Sadler should be listed as DC (Driver Change) instead
of withdrew (because the entry still ran - even with Skinner behind the
wheel and change of numbers too - 34 to 00) - but still a William
Edwards (Mach 1 motorsports entry and still a Ford like No. 34 original
one - Skinner initial car was a Chevy but his gave up to Hamilton) so
should be a Driver Change


  70.   Anthony posted:
  01.30.2019 - 4:56 am
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Greg Biffle would have won the championship had he not been caught up in
a wreck in this race


  71.   Tarheel posted:
  01.30.2019 - 7:40 am
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70, you could make that non argument for any driver that's been involved
in any close title fight. I wasn't a fan of Stewart or Biffle, but
Stewart won that title fair and square. Maybe if Biffle was better on
short tracks he would have won the title anyway. Maybe if Biffle hadn't
wrecked in this race Stewart would have finished a lot higher than 15th
at homestead and beaten him anyway.


  72.   Anthony posted:
  03.06.2019 - 12:33 am
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Kevin Harvick originally qualified 2nd, but was put down to 42nd for his
qualifying time being disqualified.


  73.   Anonymous posted:
  01.05.2020 - 12:47 pm
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I do see both Rusty Wallace, and Mike Bliss caught in the first big one
as well should be a 9 car wreck.


  74.   Foote posted:
  04.04.2020 - 2:45 pm
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After (literally) crying through an interview after Kevin Harvick bumped
him in the turn and triggered a huge crash in the Gatorade Duel to start
the year, Jim Johnson triggers a nasty crash on lap 20 when he picks
Elliott Sadler's tires off the ground for no reason entering turn 1.
Mike Waltrip flipped several times.


  75.   SweetRich posted:
  06.29.2020 - 9:32 am
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The commentators were Bill Weber, Benny Parsons and Wally Dallenbach.
The pit road reporters were Matt Yocum, Allen Bestwick, Marty Snider and
Dave Burns.


  76.   Danny posted:
  02.22.2021 - 2:31 pm
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during this race they touched on the Houston Astros winning their game
to make the 2005 playoffs against the Cubs ironically. But it wouldn't
be the first time those two teams would be connected related to a NASCAR
race in 2005. And it was because Jeff Gordon who actually sang or tried
to sing take me out to the ball game and the Wrigley Field crowd booed
him, and he had said it was Wrigley Stadium not a good idea to do that
beforehand or crowd boos you it was later reference in a youtube video
known as Jeff Gordon's worst weekend ever, otherwise his worst race
period if you can put it that way.


  77.   TeamDCRfan posted:
  03.05.2021 - 7:28 am
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Kyle Petty was like, Im gonna finish this damn race if it takes all night


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