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  1.   WallaceFan posted:
  05.04.2008 - 8:47 am
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Denny Hamlin leads 380 of the first 381 laps (allmendinger led under
caution) but then has a tire going down which eventually blows.
Jr takes the lead, but is spun out by Kyle Busch with 2 to go.
Bowyer passes them both dring the incident and goes on for the victory.
Very very exciting race in my opinion.
Kyle Busch just lot 10,000 more fans (if he had that many to begin with)
Great runs for Bowyer of course, Mark Martin(in the top 5 all day)
Truex, Sorenson, Labonte, and Travis Kvapil.


  2.   WallaceFan posted:
  05.04.2008 - 8:48 am
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After they made contact coming out of turn 4 and went into the wall,
Michael Waltrip ran into the back of Casey Mears..getting under his car
and driving him all the way down the front stretch untill he was
eventually in the turn 1 wall.
So thats why he was parked.


  3.   Clayton posted:
  05.04.2008 - 9:11 am
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Kyle Busch pulls a move that Jr's father did the best! It was a hell of
a finish and a great race. Mark Martin just stayed where he was all
race! Michael Waltrip deserved to be park and I am surprised that NASCAR
parked him since he drives a Toyota!

race was ran runder a Green White Checkered which is why it is 410 laps!

Oh man what a race!


  4.   Mr. Big posted:
  05.04.2008 - 9:30 am
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The last 20 laps were great, and on a night it seemed Denny Hamlin was
perfect and flawless, he couldn't get the win. On a night it seemed
Junior would finally break his winless streak at the track he last won
at, he didn't.

Who really expected Bowyer to win with 15 laps left? Not me.

The 11 car crash at Lap 231 (OK, NASCAR.com says 14, FOX said 11, I
counted 12) was the biggest one of the year so far if I'm right. Didn't
really expect the Big One to happen at Richmond of all places.


  5.   DaleJrFan16 posted:
  05.04.2008 - 9:37 am
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You already know what I'm gonna say so I'll make a long storfy short

I forgive Brian Vickers, he didnt directly hit jr, I'll never forgive
Busch, he's stuck up and I hate him.

Now that that's out of the way...

Overall: Easilly the worst race of the season (Even if Jr won it would
have been the worst.) 4 LEAD CHANGES, 380 laps led by one driver.
However that Big Crunch as I like to call it was brutal. Carpantier was
like a blade going back into traffic. He totalled everyone he touched :P

And now...I wait...for as 72nd time :-(


  6.   Dodge posted:
  05.04.2008 - 10:20 am
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I disagree to the call of Waltrip parked. Casey Mears has no clue what
he's doing out there. He probably ignored his spotter and decided to cut
Mikey off. As a reult, Mikey has a car that he has to have his team fix
and as an owner driver, he don't like it so he showed Mears what he
thought of it by inflicting more damage to Mears car. I would not be
surprised to see Mears gone from Hendrick for 2009. Rumor had Hendrick
and Gibbs trying to sign Carl Edwards until he resigned with Roush-Fenway.


  7.   RaceFanX posted:
  05.04.2008 - 11:20 am
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Go Bobby Labonte Go!

Promoting the release of the Live-action film version of Speed Racer,
released on the Friday after this race, Bobby's car was painted like the
Mach 5 from the show, complete with a big "M" on the hood. Labonte
finished 13th.

How did Patrick Carpentier win more money than Kurt Busch? Did he get
some money for his good qualifing run?


  8.   Dodge posted:
  05.04.2008 - 11:20 am
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Carpantier was like a blade going back into traffic. He totalled
everyone he touched :P

What the hell are you talking about. Carpentier was racing as clean as a
rookie can race. He is learning the big cars still. It is unfortunate
that you have clowns like Blaney and Yeley that have no business on the
track that caused the Big One at Richmond. Carpentier really took hard
hits (inside wall, the 2 car, the 38 car). I believe that Carpentier
will soon be capable of being competitive.
Anyone know how many wrecks J.J. "Wreckfest" Yeley have been in. I
imagine at least 6 of the 9 races he's been in he's wrecked but not sure.


  9.   Neal posted:
  05.04.2008 - 2:57 pm
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When is NASCAR going to wake up and realize there are serious issues
with the performance of this car on virtually every track except Daytona
and Talladega?

Having one guy lead the first 381 of 382 laps at a short track is
ridiculous. Had Denny not lost the tire nobody would've been able to
touch him. The aero push is worse, not better, meaning every race the
leader is practically untouchable.


  10.   WillG_46 posted:
  05.04.2008 - 3:59 pm
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Kyle Busch is a no driving fool. Sure he can win.......when he wrecks
the other 42 cars!


  11.   Spen posted:
  05.04.2008 - 4:37 pm
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A note to the webmaster : The first caution was because of Johnny Sauter
hitting the wall, not debris. And you overlooked the #38 and the #70 in
the big one.


  12.   Woodbridge posted:
  05.04.2008 - 5:34 pm
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Mears will fail to chart a top 5 this year, let alone a win, and will be
driving for a scrub team next year. I look for Keselowski to be piloting
the #5 ride within two years.

The last twenty laps were thrilling. Denny Hamlin deserved the win,
obviously.. but Bowyer did good with his opportunism.


  13.   Mark O. posted:
  05.04.2008 - 10:55 pm
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To Spen:

The official NASCAR PR has the reason for the first caution listed as
"debris".


  14.   Mamorese posted:
  05.04.2008 - 10:58 pm
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"A note to the webmaster : The first caution was because of Johnny
Sauter hitting the wall, not debris. And you overlooked the #38 and the
#70 in the big one."

I believe the caution came out for debris from Sauter hitting the wall.
RR uses data provided by the official NASCAR race report. Debris on the
track was the official reason for the caution being thrown.


  15.   Dodge posted:
  05.05.2008 - 7:10 am
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How did Patrick Carpentier win more money than Kurt Busch? Did he get
some money for his good qualifing run?

I believe the reason is that the 10 car ran fulltime last year. Since
the 2 and 77 car switched points to start the season, then they treat it
like the 2 didn't run last year since this "Trade" was made.


  16.   tooj117 posted:
  05.05.2008 - 8:10 am
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Kyle Busch is the biggest idiot ever. Dale Jr has a 2-year winless
streak to break, and he was going to do it until Busch intentionally
wrecked him. I hope Kyle Busch gets caught driving drunk or smoking weed
or doing something else that will get him suspended from NASCAR so we
don't have to worry about him doing it at Darlington


  17.   18My New Favorite Driver posted:
  05.05.2008 - 9:44 am
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Kyle Busch Is going to be the best driver of our time, saturday night he
did not do anything that The Black #3 had not done to thousands before
him. why is it if anybody does anything to anybody else it is a racing
incident, but if it happens to earnhardt it is intentional. all the
other drivers should just not race.


  18.   Dodge posted:
  05.05.2008 - 10:45 am
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Believe me, Kyle Busch IS NOT A FAVORITE OF MINE. If people look at a
replay of the laps before the wreck Jr. was running a higher groove and
all of a sudden he chose to try to cut Kyle off and Kyle wasn't gonna
back off. Kyle was RACING for the lead, other drivers may have backed
off a tad but Kyle is a type of driver that looks at it as Checkers or
Wreckers when he has a chance to win. As a result, Jr. is more to blame
because he tried to chop the 18's right front fender off and got wrecked.


  19.   Anonymous posted:
  05.05.2008 - 12:56 pm
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Weird. In the first five races, Junior led a total of 91 laps, and he
had three top fives and four top tens.
In the last five races, Junior has led 325 laps, but hasn't finished in
the top five once.


  20.   Anonymous posted:
  05.05.2008 - 7:19 pm
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Jr did not cut Kyle off. Kyle was a full lane up the track when Jr
turned down into the corner.

The comparisons between Kyle and Dale Sr are weak. There's a fine line
between aggressive and reckless driving. Earnhardt crossed that line now
and then but Kyle crosses it nearly every week and treats it like the
other guy was in his way. He drops down into the Nationwide and Truck
series and wrecks the regulars and then says that he isn't running for
points and those guys are like they should just move over for him. He is
the definition of the word punk.


  21.   WillG_46 posted:
  05.06.2008 - 10:56 am
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Jr. gave the 18 nearly 2 lanes to pass, hardly "cutting him off". And I
agree with the comment above me, Kyle Busch isn't half the man Dale Sr was.


  22.   Dodge posted:
  05.06.2008 - 11:00 am
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Jr did not cut Kyle off. Kyle was a full lane up the track when Jr
turned down into the corner.

You are biased. You are probably a Jr. fan who believes that he can do
no wrong no matter what he does. He could get arrested for DUI and you
would be saying that he was innocent even if he was found guilty. You
gotta look at it from all of the replays of that incident. It shows that
Kyle got loose going in when he tried to pinch his car down lower
because Jr. CUT HIM OFF. Little E was running a higher line all race
long and Kyle Busch was running low to middle groove all race and all of
a sudden when Kyle see him go high, he goes middle and then Jr. wants
the middle.


  23.   Anonymous posted:
  05.06.2008 - 1:53 pm
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No, I just know something about racing etiquette, something Kyle needs
to work on a bit. Not sure I see a connection between a racing incident
and a DUI but maybe Kyle does need a breathalyser now that you bring it
up. Jr was running the middle grove the last several laps so I'm not
sure what you're talking about there.


  24.   Dodge posted:
  05.06.2008 - 7:47 pm
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Before you question me, how long have you been REALLY watching NASCAR.
Also, get some guts and use a name, even if it isn't your name. What I
meant is that if DALE had legal trouble, you people would be saying he
was innocent even if he was FOUND GUILTY. I DID NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT
KYLE NEEDING A BREATHILIZER TEST BECAUSE HE IS A RACER THAT WANTS TO WIN
AND WILL AT ALL COSTS. I WOULD RATHER SEE SOMEONE TRYING TO PASS THE
LEADER WHILE RACING INSTEAD OF GIVING UP. AS I PREVIOUSLY SAID, I AM NOT
A FAN OF KYLE BUSCH, BUT HE DID CHANGE HOW I LOOK AT HIM. If Dale Had
done that and Kyle got wrecked you guys would be saying that you were so
happy that Dale did that to Kyle.
Wah wah.


  25.   Smokefan05 posted:
  05.07.2008 - 4:26 pm
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Congrats Kyle"baby"Busch, you just runined your fanbase(if you had one
in the first place) Your car never got "loose", you decided take Jr out.
You could care less what happens.

And anyone comparing Dale Sr. to Kyle Busch isn't in their right mind.
Dale did the "bump and run." Kyle does the "wreck and run." And Dale
would say "i'm sorry for wrecking him." Kyle never said "i'm sorry." He
is never sorry about anything.

If Kyle wrecked Tony Stewert, Robby Gordon, Kevin Harvick, Juan Montoya,
or DJ. He'd be in the emergency room.

And before anyone asks, i'm not a Dale Jr. fan.


  26.   Anonymous posted:
  05.07.2008 - 7:09 pm
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All you Junior fans are pathetic. You want to rip on Kyle Busch for
wrecking him when the mans own father did exactlly the same thing week
in and week out. You are a bunch of hipocritical cry babies.


  27.   samfan08 posted:
  05.07.2008 - 7:48 pm
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Boring race until the last 30 laps, but those 30 were possibly some of
the best I've seen in a while. Kyle Busch is an idiot, but I'll give him
the benefit of the doubt for what happened on track. Off track however,
he handled it wrong and sounded arrogant and like a baby.


  28.   Anonymous posted:
  05.07.2008 - 10:37 pm
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Dodge, first of all I don't remember questioning you. Second, what does
using a name at a site I rarely post at have to do with anything? I came
here to comment on a race, not be a part of a social community. To
answer your question I haven't missed a race in over 10 years. People
are going to have different opinions than you. Stop with the personal
attacks and assuming you know how I think on everything involving Jr and
Kyle. It's kind of funny reading you accusing me of being a Dale Jr fan
boy when he's not even my favorite driver.


  29.   Dodge posted:
  05.08.2008 - 8:36 am
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I'm surprised that the JR. fans aren't saying anything about it being
obvious it was gonna happen since Kyle got released because of Jr.
signing with Hendrick Motorsports. Who would of thought that Gibbs would
be better than Hendrick Motorsports. I thought that organization was
going to have a rough year since they are new to Toyota. By the way, I
am not a fan of Toyota's.


  30.   Dodge posted:
  05.08.2008 - 12:51 pm
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I'm sorry. I thought it was an attack. All that I meant about having a
name is that it would be nice to see who's who. I didn't mean that just
because you believe Jr. was screwed that you were a fan. I thought you
may of been, but you're not. I just like to see good hard racing for the
lead and some times the drivers make mistakes. Some appologize for them,
like Kevin Lepage in the Talladega NNS race and others don't. It just
gets frustrating on how people believe that drivers should basically
move over for Jr. News about Jr; He is not as good as you people say he
is in the Cup Series, that or Tony Jr. really sucks as a crew chief.
Seems that Jr. had better finishes with Tony Sr.
I sincerely appologize for my posts against you.


  31.   Ryan posted:
  05.08.2008 - 9:06 pm
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So, I guess since Earnhardt's dad was occasionally agressive it has to
be held against Earnhardt, Jr. See, that isn't right. Jr. doesn't
normally race like his dad. He races a lot like Bill Elliott and Ricky
Rudd did. He is more of a finesse driver. People just think where his
name is Earnhardt that he is labeled agressive. Earnhardt gave him
plenty of room. Kyle knew he was beat and he knew that was the only
chance he had at the win. He knew he couldn't beat Jr. where he was on
the outside groove. He said quote,"If I was going to wreck him it would
have been on the last lap." Typical BS from a Busch. It was in the last
laps. Earnhardt did come down, he was going into the turn and the 18 was
supposed to turn, but he didnt, he went straight and hit Earnhardt.
Busch is a prick, and it will come back on him. I love the line
Earnhardt gave when asked if he was going to have to confront the 18. He
said, "I have to get in line first." Him and his dad have some of the
best quotes of all time.


  32.   Willy on Wheels posted:
  05.09.2008 - 10:05 am
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It will come back on him soon, as it has happened to me on NASCAR 07
countless times. Kyle Busch really needs to learn a lesson. Soon.

ON WHEELS!


  33.   Dodge posted:
  05.09.2008 - 10:57 am
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According to the AP, Dale Jr. is saying that Kyle Busch drives just like
his daddy. So, now you Earnhardt Fans have more to complain about.


  34.   Anonymous posted:
  05.11.2008 - 1:56 pm
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Hey. Eat that Junior fans. Still pathetic how you guys rip Kyle Busch
for aggresive driving, but you all loved it when Big E did it to every
driver he ever ran against.


  35.   Anonymous0 posted:
  05.11.2008 - 9:15 pm
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Yet another genius who thinks every single Jr fan was a Dale Earnhardt fan.


  36.   Ryan posted:
  08.29.2008 - 2:13 am
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Well, Well, Well Kryle Busch... Ever heard of karma??? What did he say
when he wrecked Jr., "that it was a product of good hard racing."
hmmmmmmm........ someone wasn't saying that after Mr. Backflip did the
bump and run at Bristol on them!

Difference between Kyle Busch and Earnhardt, Sr. people... Dale could
dish it out(Bristol '99) and take it(Pocono '00)... He didnt bitch about
it, he said after the race, "It wasn't a bad day, we gained some points
on Labonte." Kryle Busch on the other hand... What a bitch!

Also, Earnhardt could hit someone and not wreck them if he wanted, Kyle
on the other hand doesn't know how to bump without taking someone out...
There is a difference, It's called talent... I could get out there in
those "fixed" Toyota's of Busch's and win half the races he has won this
year...

Tough sh*t Kryle Busch League!


  37.   earnhard88 posted:
  07.28.2009 - 5:45 am
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There is an unwritten rule in NASCAR that nobody bumps anybody named
Earnhardt but I guess he didn't get the message.


  38.   Rob McKeever posted:
  09.09.2011 - 1:42 pm
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If Denny Hamlin doesn't stop on the track to draw a caution after
getting his flat, the race finishes under Green, and Busch never gets to
Earnhardt's bumper. That move by Hamlin, to help his teammate, is far
worse to me than the contact. (worth saying that there is no guarantee
that the 88 gets to the checkered under green without an issue of his
own - but without the 11's caution, the 18 is never close enough to
create an issue)


  39.   Matthew Sullivan posted:
  06.01.2012 - 5:04 pm
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Rob, your are 100% correct. This race was one of the early signals of
Denny Hamlin being the biggest quitter in NASCAR the moment things don't
go his way. Instead of taking his misfortune like a man, he chose to act
like a child by stopping on the track.


  40.   SG224 posted:
  12.08.2012 - 3:52 pm
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Well, The last guy who had trouble getting out of Richmond, I think his
name was Grant

-DW referrig to Kyle Busch


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  01.27.2013 - 7:33 am
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  42.   TTF24 posted:
  06.13.2014 - 11:00 pm
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JR and Busch come to the bottom and they almost had it ooo baby he try
this time oh he turned him no oh he turned him no no no and comes Clint
Boyer to take the yellow flag no no and Dale JR gets spun by Wild Thing
:O O_O


  43.   88&4Fan posted:
  07.07.2015 - 5:49 pm
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People forget that Cryle wouldn't have even had the opportunity to get
to Junior if Denny Hamlin didn't intentionally stop on the track to draw
a caution. That in my opinion is even WORSE than what Cryle did.

And besides, Junior paid Cryle back for that later that year and they
haven't had any problems since. The same can not be said, however, for
Kevin Harvick, Clint Bowyer, Ron Hornaday, Elliott Sadler, Joey Coulter,
any other RCR driver in 2011, Richard Childress himself, Brad
Keselowski, Tony Stewart, Juan Pablo Montoya, Dave Rogers, and, um,
Denny Hamlin.


  44.   Alpha ma posted:
  07.10.2015 - 5:30 pm
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I like when Denny Hamlin led 381 laps before getting a flat tire


  45.   The Iceberg posted:
  08.15.2015 - 10:29 pm
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We can all agree that without the flat tire Denny Hamlin leads 399 of
400 and the 88 and 18 fight for second. And we can also all agree that
if Hamlin doesn't stop on track that Junior wins the race.


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  47.   Maverick11 posted:
  04.24.2016 - 6:48 pm
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Kenseth finishes 65 laps down from a crash in the 1st Richmond race and
still somehow manages to have a higher finish than the 2nd Richmond race
where he finished just 2 laps down.


  48.   Ryan posted:
  05.27.2016 - 1:19 pm
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Only 13 laps led in this race by the entire top ten. Anyone know of any
races with less then that?


  49.   Alpha ma posted:
  10.12.2016 - 10:56 pm
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Lap 353 Casey Mears and Michael Waltrip crash. Mears was out of the
race, Waltrip is parked for extending boys have at it


  50.   Alpha ma posted:
  10.12.2016 - 10:56 pm
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Big one at richmond


  51.   Ultimate Warrior #18 posted:
  03.27.2018 - 2:29 pm
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This is actually the race that started The Kyle Busch hate and we all
know why.


  52.   Anonymous posted:
  03.27.2018 - 3:22 pm
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@51 I despised him well before that, I am not a Jr fan. I think the
reason he is hated is his spoiled, awful personality.


  53.   Gabriel posted:
  05.12.2018 - 4:00 pm
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The only reason this race was memorable was because Hamlin, who had
dominated, had a flat tire with about 10 to go, and a crazy finish.
Otherwise this race would've easily been a 0/10. Only a 2/10 for me due
to the finish.


  54.   Alpha Ma posted:
  10.31.2018 - 1:33 pm
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Carpentier spun and wrecked a lot of cars that hurt


  55.   Foote posted:
  04.02.2020 - 6:46 pm
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This race exacerbated a bitter rivalry between Kyle Busch and Dale
Earnhardt Jr that lingered for years. Since, the two have reconciled and
become good friends, with marriage and fatherhood no doubt playing a key
role.


  56.   TheDewCrew posted:
  04.03.2020 - 8:04 am
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It was only a matter of time until I got to this page. The first that I
remember watching. Wrecks had given my kid brain a joyride. Then...Kyle
Busch made contact with Junior. I just saw one car wreck another racing
for the win, while the announcers were yelling no. All at my home track.
Is it any coincidence that Junior became my favorite driver of all-time,
and Kyle Busch became my least favorite?


  57.   Ed posted:
  05.13.2020 - 10:44 pm
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Having watched the video of the big crash from this race there should be
13 cars listed as involved instead of 11. Dave Blaney bumped Yeley up
into Edwards to trigger the crash, and Johnny Sauter slid sideways into
the back of McDowell's car up against the wall


  58.   JSPorts posted:
  05.13.2020 - 11:06 pm
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That crash was pretty crazy. The track basically turned into a parking
lot. This was an exciting night. The top 10 drivers in the final
finishing order led only 13 laps - that's got to be some kind of record,
at least at Richmond.


  59.   Anonymous posted:
  05.14.2020 - 7:16 am
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I do agree Johnny Sauter should be listed in the crash list for this
race he did spin and crash out in that accident he's listed for one
yellow but he was also in the big one too.


  60.   Spen posted:
  05.14.2020 - 7:18 am
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Definitely a Richmond record. The next lowest amount of laps led by top
ten finishers here was for the fall race in 2017, where they led 95
laps. (Of course, we are missing lap leader data for five races here, so
it's possible that one of them had fewer.) But I'm certain it's not an
all-time record. I'm sure I can find lower numbers from either a plate
race or a rainout.


  61.   Rich posted:
  12.15.2020 - 7:39 pm
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Mike Joy, Larry McReynolds and Darrell Waltrip were the commentators.
Dr. Dick Berggren, Steve Byrnes, Matt Yocum and Krista Voda were the pit
road reporters. Chris Myers and Jeff Hammond were in the Hollywood hotel.


  62.   Danny posted:
  12.17.2020 - 11:39 pm
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What happens when you crash NASCAR's biggest star uh boos a plenty, yep
this race saw it for real.


  63.   TeamDCRfan posted:
  04.17.2021 - 12:25 pm
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Race is being shown as one of FS1s greatest races.

I still remember Kyle dumping Jr. Soon as it happened, my dad screamed,
"Busch you ASSHOLE!" We were pleased that Bowyer beat that little f**ker
though, but it still stung for him that Jr. crashed.


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