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  1.   Neal posted:
  05.25.2009 - 8:03 pm
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Congrats to Reutimann on stealing one.

I don't know what's worse, the fact that this win was a total fluke, or
the forthcoming 2 weeks worth of delusional blathering from Mikey about
how good his outfit is.


  2.   Woodbridge posted:
  05.25.2009 - 8:04 pm
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The first of many Sprint Cup wins for David Reutimann! Glad he got one,
but I'm sad he got it the way he did. This won't be a fluke win.


  3.   Micheal Waltrip fan posted:
  05.25.2009 - 8:08 pm
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Michael Waltrip has improved his status as a legendary figure in Nascar
by David Reutimann winning the 2009 Coca Cola 600. He is a legend by
being a driver or a cup owner of 3 major wins.

As a Nascar Owner, he now has 6 wins. He also has 16 wins in the Nascar
Camping World West Series, Nationwide series and the Cup series combined.


  4.   Mike posted:
  05.25.2009 - 8:13 pm
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There's no such thing as a fluke victory. Great job to the 00 team, they
deserve this.

It's time to sack Tony Eury Jr. This was the worst race car I have ever
seen Dale Jr drive. It is time to do a major shake up and it needs to
begin with the crew chief.

Also kudos to NASCAR for doing their best to get the race restarted and
give the fans the full race. I haven't seen NASCAR try that hard to get
a race restarted in a long time so it's good to see them trying to give
the fans the most racing possible.


  5.   Evan posted:
  05.25.2009 - 8:14 pm
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I'm happy that this team finally got one. I've really bad-mouthed Team
Waltrip for a while but I'm happy for David and his father who got to
see his son win his first race, yes, they stole one but David's worked
hard enough to get a win like everyone else. He beat Kyle Busch and all
those other teams by strategy and everything worked out. Talk about
being in the right position. This race was finally over...just bad
weather this time.


  6.   DiggerDale88 posted:
  05.25.2009 - 8:15 pm
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The biggest black eye for Nascar in the history of the sport.

An absolute disgrace. Reutemann shoould be ashamed to accept that trophy.

Nascar succeeded in stealing 2 wins from Kyle Busch in 1 weekend. That
has got to be a record.

We don't care if they had to postpone the race until Thursday, the fans
were cheated and Kyle Busch was cheated and Joe Gibbs Racing was cheated.

The only 2 good stories of the race were:

1. Earmfarts jr getting lapped 2 times and finishing a pitiful 39th

2. Reutimanns crew guy scaring the hell out of Stert

Jr. has access to all the Henrick data from Mummy Martin, Johnson,
Gordon, Stert and Neumen


  7.   Red posted:
  05.25.2009 - 8:20 pm
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I'm happy for Reutimann, but what a horrible way to get your first win.
And what a painful race to watch...one delay after another (reminded me
of last year's Fontana debacle). Just a shame that the two biggest races
so far have been cut short by the damn rain.

Anyway, Kyle Busch was the man to beat, and great runs for Vickers,
Montoya, Kahne, and the suddenly-competent Joey Logano.

My god, does RCR suck on the intermediate tracks. All four teams looked
completely lost in this race.

Speaking of sucking, what's the deal with David Ragan? Other than Texas
where he had a top-5 car, Ragan has been consistently pathetic this
year. I'm starting to think Jack Roush should send him to Yates next
year and keep McMurray.


  8.   Shawn posted:
  05.25.2009 - 8:20 pm
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Thumbs up to Robby Gordon and Bill Elliott for their solid runs today.

And David Gilliland's sponsor for the race was CompUSA.com.


  9.   Neal posted:
  05.25.2009 - 8:20 pm
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"There's no such thing as a fluke victory."

Ok Mikey, whatever you say. Reutimann had a 12th place car all day and
would NEVER have won had the green come back out.

I like Reutimann, I just wish he didn't drive for such a massive tool.


  10.   Bronco posted:
  05.25.2009 - 8:25 pm
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"or the forthcoming 2 weeks worth of delusional blathering from Mikey
about how good his outfit is. "

His outfit IS good. Sure this win can be classified as a fluke, but its
not fluke that Reutimann is on the verge of making the cha$e and Ambrose
is in the top 20. I am so glad to see Reutimann win, couldn't do a more
deserving guy who earned his place in the sport on the basis of hard
work and talent.

That being said this race probably steals the Worst Race of 2009 award
from the Daytona 500. Shrub basically dominated the Nationwide and Cup
events but walked away with absolutely nothing.

I laughed my ass off when I saw Dale Jr wrestling with that horrible
handling car. I wasn't surprised that racing in the daytime was going to
stump the 88 team as far as hitting a good setup. The way he's going,
he's on track to have his WORST season ever. Worse than 2002 when he
dropped like a rock in points because of his concussion, worse than 2005
when he had three different crew chief, worse than 2007 when his engines
blew up every week. Some make Mr Hendrick take a drug test for not
making some changes to that awful team.


  11.   DieselDan posted:
  05.25.2009 - 8:29 pm
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Go ask Larry McRenyolds and Darrell Waltrip about rain and strategy.
Reference the 1992 Southern 500.


  12.   Anonymous posted:
  05.25.2009 - 8:29 pm
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Shawn, Robby Gordon did NOT have a solid run. He stole that finish.


  13.   Anonymous posted:
  05.25.2009 - 8:33 pm
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A win is a win to me. Congratulations to David and the 00 team.

David becomes the oldest driver to win his first race since Lake Speed
did in 1988.

Robby Gordon got has best finish at an Oval Since he won at Loudon in
2001 and his first top 5 at an oval since Darlington in 2004.

RCR really sucks at cookie cutter tracks this year.

Joey Logano might be turning the corner now. Willy on Wheels better be
quiet about bashing him now since Joey has 3 top 10's in the last 4 races.

The 88 car looked too evil on the track. I am shocked Jr. didn't crash
with that sorry excuse of a race car. Who ever is responsible for that
needs to get fired.


Once in a while Hendrick has a car that really sucks at the 600, but
this is pathetic. This is the worst race Jr. had since the 2004 Las
Vegas Motor Speedway race. Jr. had bad races before, but this is really
bad based on "his standard of bad driving" this year.


  14.   Anonymous posted:
  05.25.2009 - 8:35 pm
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You can't steal from nature. Look up in the sky. There's your clue.


  15.   Baker posted:
  05.25.2009 - 8:39 pm
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Nascar is a sorry excuse for an company when they continue to let this
garbarge happen week in and week out. Nascar is the WWF of the racing
world. The best driver and best teams are always being robbed of victory
one way or another.

Busch, Kahne and Vickers should all be in an uproar because no one was
better than those 3.


  16.   Bronco posted:
  05.25.2009 - 9:00 pm
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"Busch, Kahne and Vickers should all be in an uproar because no one was
better than those 3."

What a dumb statement - if you knew anything about racing you would know
that the best car doesn't always win. Nothing stopped those guys from
staying out when the caution came out.

When NASCAR screws up I am the first one to call them out. However this
time they got it right - they waited 2-3 hours before they called the
race, so it's not like they dropped the win in Reutimann's lap.

Good runs for veterans Labonte and Awesome Bill who made his 800th start.


  17.   Baker posted:
  05.25.2009 - 9:26 pm
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Who gives a flying ... how long they waited. The track has lights and
the curfew for noise is much much much later into the night. The could
have gone green again. Pansies is what they are they didn't want to work
today because its one more day they wouldn't be otherwise.


  18.   New14&88 Fan posted:
  05.25.2009 - 9:33 pm
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This race shall forever be known as the "David Reutimann Miracle" .Even
though his crew chief made the right call in having David stay out the
race was still pretty much gift-wrapped for them.Still congrats to the
#00 team and Reutimann on their first win and it was cool seeing him and
his dad celebrating....


...of course,now we'll have to stomache three-to-four weeks worth o his
owner bragging about how his team is now "hot stuff"


  19.   Don DeWeese posted:
  05.25.2009 - 9:53 pm
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After reading the above comments I can see that most are written by sore
Chevy fans? You have a right to be sore, Toyota led all but (8) of the
227 laps. That equals out to about 95% of the laps. We can always break
out the history books and see where you Chevy's have (Stole) some
because of rain. One was May of 97' Jeff Gordon here at Charlotte. I'll
be glad to give you more if you want. Swallow your pride and give credit
where credit is due. Way to go Yotas.


  20.   Anonymous posted:
  05.25.2009 - 9:54 pm
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First win for Rodney Childers as a crew chief. He's the same guy who had
crappy seasons in the past with Sadler and Riggs so it's nice to see him
taste success.


  21.   T-Mac posted:
  05.25.2009 - 10:03 pm
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WHO DA MAN? REUTIMANN!


  22.   18fan posted:
  05.25.2009 - 10:19 pm
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This whole race was a joke. It's my second favorite race to watch after
the Daytona 500 and it disappointed. It's a shame that only one of the
three best cars, Busch, Kahne, and Vickers, got a top 5 finish. I agree
with all the people that talk about Michael Waltrip.
He will talk for the rest of the year about how David Reutimann is one
of the top drivers in the series and his team is a top of the line team
on the lines of Gibbs and Hendrick.
First win for the TRD engine(Gibbs makes their own engines).Kyle Busch
has led the most laps 4 times this year and has won 1 of those races,
but has won 2 in which he did not.


  23.   18fan posted:
  05.25.2009 - 10:29 pm
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Reutimann becomes the 20th driver to win in all three series. Only Jamie
McMurray can rival him as the worst drivers to win in all three series.
His only Truck and Cup wins were lucky and his Nationwide win was
because there were 25 cautions and few Cup drivers. He was a 15th place
car who had ONE top 5 until this joke of a race.


  24.   Zed 3_88fan4eva posted:
  05.25.2009 - 10:29 pm
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Well I do have to give credit to NASCAR that they tried every way
possible to complete the race.

Im happy for Reutimann as I feel that he has an awesome chance of making
the chase

Im also happy for guys like Robby Gordon, Labonte and Awesome Bill in
his 800th race.

You love or hate Kyle Busch (I hate) He is fun to watch race and I
belive if he had better luck he might be able to contend for a championchip

And All I can say about to all us Jr. fans, I guess it cant get much worse


  25.   Chris posted:
  05.25.2009 - 10:55 pm
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If this win is a stolen win and a fluke, then you can just go ahead and
call every race that was ever won on fuel mileage, rain-shortened, 2
tires vs. 4, staying out under caution, etc. a fluke as well.

A quote for the MWR haters:

"People said that we couldn't get sponsors, and we showed them. They
said we wouldn't get winning drivers, and we showed them. The thing they
said that really pissed me off was that we wouldn't win. Let's show 'em."

- Michael Waltrip, 1/28/07


  26.   Art D posted:
  05.25.2009 - 11:09 pm
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Cheers to Reutimann getting half a win on the Coca-Cola 340.


  27.   Anonymous posted:
  05.25.2009 - 11:13 pm
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THE FRANCHISE


  28.   Anonymous posted:
  05.25.2009 - 11:23 pm
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It's a miracle! Dave Blaney didn't start and park for the first time
this year! Also this is the second time a Phil Parsons machine ran the
whole race, Terry Labonte at this year's Daytona 380 was the first.


  29.   BON GORDON posted:
  05.26.2009 - 12:18 am
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I really wanted the race to go back to green and I was kinda mad Gordon
didn't get a better finish but oh well.Conngrats to David Reutimann on
that victory! Gordon and all the other drivers shouldn't complain
because they should've stayed out. It was a bad call on their part. Kyle
Busch was the class of the field and Dale Jr was not. I don't know whats
wrong with him and this team but I know Jr. has the talent. He was
strong in 2003 and 2004 but this race was the worst I've ever seen him
and his team in a long time. I'm sick of rain and it better stay away
from the monster mile next weekend!


  30.   RaceFanX posted:
  05.26.2009 - 1:35 am
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I'm surprised no one mentioned this...
This race was halted at around 3:00 p.m. for a brief moment of silence
in memory of those who fought and those who died in defense of the
United States.
All the cars stopped on the frontstretch and shut down thier motors. All
the crew members lined up on pit road and all the tracks flags were
lowered to half staff in united support of our troops past and present.

Reutimann pulls the rare feat of winning a race without leading a single
lap under green. Hey, a win's a win no matter how you get it.


  31.   Kirk posted:
  05.26.2009 - 7:01 am
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As a Waltrip/MWR fan near LMS, I was watching the local radar pretty
closely. I think the reason NASCAR finally called the race was that
there were additional cells of rain coming up from the south. With the
soaking rain they were getting when they called the race and the
near-certain rain still on the way, I don't see where they had much of a
choice.

Oh, and...way to go, Franchise!


  32.   DaleJrFan17 posted:
  05.26.2009 - 8:02 am
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This was pitiful. Jr makes me sick. However DW made a good ovservation
"If it were a lesser driver in that car, they would have already wrecked
it out" But it doesnt remove his shit finish.

And not to mention that they worked SO HARD TO GET THIS ONE RESTARTED
AND THEY GAVE UP AT DAYTONA AFTER A LITTLE SPRINKLE! N@$CAR just wanted
a regular to win.

Eh did I mention this didnt end exactly six and a half hours after the
green dropped?


  33.   Dodge posted:
  05.26.2009 - 8:05 am
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What a POOR weekend for NASCAR. Saturday Night was a joke with Bliss
winning and on Monday Reutimann.
I have an idea for NASCAR. How about if we get a rain-shortened race
like this one.
Ran 227 of the scheduled 400
Get the percent and the teams win that percent of the purse: which would
be 56.75%
Take the other 43.25% and refund the fans. They should change the
halfway rule, especially now because I bet a lot of fans can only afford
one trip this year and they choose to go to a race. They owe it to the
fans to COMPLETE a race in its entirety. I don't care what Newman or any
other driver says.


  34.   Rusty posted:
  05.26.2009 - 9:07 am
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This was the biggest fluke win in some time. I like Reutimann, but he
didn't earn this. He just stayed out when everyone pitted, sometimes
that happens but it doesn't make it any less of a fluke.


  35.   Bronco posted:
  05.26.2009 - 9:19 am
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Shame on Mike Bliss and James Finch. They win the Nationwide race on
Saturday, and then at the start of the race Mike Joy stated that there
wouldn't be any start and park entries. Yet they head to the garage with
a vibration, while even Nemechek and Blaney ran the entire race.

To all the people bitching about how Reutimann got his first win, get
over it. All the other cars had the option of staying out and they
didn't. And NASCAR wasn't quick to call the race like with last year's
summer New Hampshire race and this year's Daytona race. Reutimann waited
out in the rain for over 2 hours before the rain was called.

When the race was called it was 6:30pm ET. Assuming it took 2 hours to
dry the track the race wouldn't have restarted until 8:30pm. It would
then take another full 2 hours to finish the race, during which time the
rain could come down with no warning, meaning that someone else could
have stolen this win later down the road. So really, NASCAR made the
right call for once.

I thought the 3pm tribute was a nice touch, probably the first anything
like that has happened during a Cup race.


  36.   Brandon posted:
  05.26.2009 - 9:25 am
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It doesn't matter if fans thinks it's a fluke or whatever. You've got to
win a race any way you can and that's all the history books will say...
that he's a winner!


  37.   Smokefan05 posted:
  05.26.2009 - 10:45 am
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A win is a win no matter how you slice it. IT COUNTS!!!!!
Congrats David.


  38.   dUDE gUY posted:
  05.26.2009 - 11:42 am
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Reutimann finally win one! It was a weird way to grab a win for sure,
but it still counts as a win! Mostly everybody else chose to pit,
leaving Reutimann, Newman and Robby Gordon (and Edwards?) to take
advantage by choosing to stay out.

Logano gets his third ninth-place finish in the last four races (and his
only three top tens he's earned to this point). He's definitely figured
out how to handle those cars a lot better than he was. I think he could
compete for a couple of wins by the end of the year.


  39.   Shawn posted:
  05.26.2009 - 12:32 pm
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Robby Gordon finished third. He rolled the dice and stayed out when
everyone else pitted, and then the weather rolled in for the final time.
Hey, if Kyle Busch had stayed out he would have won, so congrats for
Robby and team on making a good call.


  40.   DieselDan posted:
  05.26.2009 - 12:43 pm
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This is for those who don't understand racing:

The race winner is the one who gets to the finish first. Not whoever
leads the most laps. Not who has the fastest car.

The winner is whoever finishes first, unless you're French.


  41.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
  05.26.2009 - 1:40 pm
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Reutimann deserves a win, I just hate it for him that his first win had
to be such a fluke. Until he wins another race, which will most likely
have to be for another organization as MWR has really sunk lately after
a promising start, it will be worse for him than if he still had zero wins.

He will constantly have the "Yeah, but...." added when he is announced
as a Sprint Cup winner. I know a win is a win and it still counts, but
he can just look at Derrike Cope. Yeah, he is still the 1990 Daytona 500
winner, but anyone who knows anything about it knows what a fluke it
was, and that was a race that went the full distance. Until he builds up
a resume, it will be bad for him. That is the difference between his win
here and Matt Kensteth's Daytona win this year (that and the fact that
Matt actually made a green flag pass for the lead).

"I don't know what's worse, the fact that this win was a total fluke, or
the forthcoming 2 weeks worth of delusional blathering from Mikey about
how good his outfit is."

Exactly. Watching him trying to steal the spotlight from David was
sickening. Luckily, his car have really fallen lately and this will most
likely be forgotten soon. But at least real race fans know it was a
complete fluke, a mix of weather and pit strategy.


  42.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
  05.26.2009 - 1:41 pm
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"Michael Waltrip has improved his status as a legendary figure in Nascar
by David Reutimann winning the 2009 Coca Cola 600. He is a legend by
being a driver or a cup owner of 3 major wins."

A legendary joke.


  43.   WallaceFan posted:
  05.26.2009 - 2:14 pm
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Reutimann led 0 green flag laps.


  44.   KaseyKahne9Fan posted:
  05.26.2009 - 2:20 pm
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Great strategy by David Reutimann for staying out on the last caution. A
win is a win. Kasey Kahne was about to pass Kyle before that final
caution if only the rain had stayed away.


  45.   Candraco posted:
  05.26.2009 - 2:44 pm
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Busch race: Rained out
Cup race: Postponed
cup race the next day: a critical mistake.

Nascar Knew that showers were in the area im very dissapointed that they
just did not postpone it another day, yes i understand that many fans
would have been out a lot of money but then again they were already
since the race was postponed and people had work obligations even on
memorial day.

in my opinion i think they should have reserved the race until the next
open weekend which was july 18th
i know the history of the surrounding week but it would have been a
better race if it was rescheduled.

however as for the race itself:
if the race had resumed after the last rain delay it would have
challenged the first darlington race for the longest nascar race.

i really really liked the 3:00 memorial day tribute which was the most
awesome thing i have ever seen in nascar that was great!

im glad newman got a solid start and even overcame adversity early on
when he came for the lower 30s to rally up to the top fifteen and then
get a 2nd place finish by staying out.

as much as i hate the rain delays i usually base what i would want to
happen based on where my favorite driver (stewart) and the driver i hate
(johnson) are running on the track so you guys know that i was really
hoping to go green again but i knew once we made it past that fateful
mark of 200 laps that the race would end on the first rain delay to come
out and i was right only when the caution came out i thought kyle busch
woulda won it and i was alright with that because tony was tenth and
ahead of gordon and looking good for his first point lead since 05 but
what i didnt expect was nearly everyone to come down pit road and much
less in tonys case take four tires.
and of course johnson and gordon get to finish ahead of him.
ok fine i can deal with that.
he only lost a few points to gordon and now he is THE ONLY DRIVER WITHIN
100 POINTS OF GORDON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HECK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
so not much else to be mad about we saw our second first time nascar
sprint cup winner in less than a months time so im just going to put
this race behind me and cant wait for next week where i predict ryan
newman to win.


  46.   Kit posted:
  05.26.2009 - 4:06 pm
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At this point, Kasey Kahne is my favorite current, competitive driver. I
honestly stopped caring much for the sport because all my favorite
drivers from the 80s are pretty much done or semi-retired, but Kahne
reminds me of them. He was chasing down Busch and got pissed when the
caution came out for rain. He could have won the race if he took the
risk to stay out, but his car was so good that I guess it was too risky
of a move for them. Kahne is a straight-up stock car racer without the
emotional baggage of Kyle Busch or Tony Stewart.

Speaking of Stewart, he really ate some crow at this race. He was a real
crybaby with the way he acted towards Reutimann. "Us drivers need to
work together and Reutimann needs to understand that! We still have 400+
miles to go!" Guess who won the race, Stewart?

I think just about everyone except Stewart realized that there was no
way the race was going to be run the full distance with all the rain in
the area and the fact that it was already late Monday. Reutimann raced
like they only had less than 100 laps left that was pretty much true.
Reutimann raced like I'd expect: a driver who doesn't have the best
equipment but has a decent car for the race and realizes that the race
is going to be rain shortened.

I don't get why Fox needs to try to instigate something. They had no
business interviewing Stewart and later Reutimann over the incident.
That was a private driver affair. Stewart, of course, starts with the
name calling like a 10-year-old who just lost at marbles. Reutimann
acted his age. Fox, of course, tries to take Stewart's side with the
bullshit "Stewart's won a bunch of races so he knows everything!"
attitude. Well, apparently not because Reutimann was declared the winner.

I thought Stewart matured a little after buying a stake in a
pre-existing team but I guess not. He'll bitch about the way Reutimann
is driving but I guess he doesn't remember how he put Matt Kenseth into
the wall a few seasons back.

"They should change the halfway rule, especially now because I bet a lot
of fans can only afford one trip this year and they choose to go to a
race. They owe it to the fans to COMPLETE a race in its entirety."

NASCAR does not control the weather. When you buy tickets to the race,
you assume responsibility that it might rain and the race might be rain
shortened. Caveat emptor.


  47.   Candraco posted:
  05.26.2009 - 5:09 pm
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i respect you a lot kit its absolutely amazing how commited to this site
you are you have got to have 2000+ comments on this site it makes my
head spin.

but im going to have to disagree with a few points in your above comment:

Yes i thought this was a step backwards for tony especially after i
heard what he said to his spotter when he got back into his car (look at
nascar.com Billy Bad Butt Story)

but tony kept his head cool when the gad dang interviewers came over to
see what the heck happened and didnt cuss like i know was a guarantee if
this was 2006-08.
i think his argument was kinda moot because everyone is racing for a win
and everyone has a right to race where they want.

but i was really upset with fox in this race i think the report card
stuff was crap as well as anything else they talked about (did they
interview every single driver running the race? i lost count)
but i got really mad when they almost instantly got a text subtitle for
Dwayne Biggers (The Crew Guy tony got into an argument for) called
"Billy Bad Butt"
it was absolutely unnecessary and something fox jumped all over so they
could fill some camera time and i really respect reatimann for declining
to comment about it when he was asked about it.

but afterwards everything was resolved as they were pushing the car into
the makeshift victory lane tony stewart called up reatimann (this is
what im reading from what reatimann said to reporters on nascar.com) and
congratulated David for his win which really shows how far tony has
matured since his home depot days it must have been hard for him to
swallow but he still did the right thing and i commend him for it.

oh yeah and Kit, youll be getting a comment on the tony stewart page
before long about comments made there.


  48.   Dodge posted:
  05.26.2009 - 5:35 pm
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I understand Kit, NASCAR doesn't control the weather, but if a track has
lights, they should go as late as need be. If not, figure out the
percentage of the race and base off of that for the purse and the
remainder of the percentage goes back to the fans. Would be the only
thing fair.

Kasey is also my favorite driver.


  49.   18fan posted:
  05.26.2009 - 6:54 pm
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The win column should say Rodney Childers: 1 David Reutimann: 0.


  50.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
  05.26.2009 - 7:47 pm
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I was at this race in 1997 when it ended at 2:00 AM after about three
rain delays. The problem is that with the network deal they don't want
to lose that many casual viewers. They would rather show an incomplete
race during prime viewer hours than a complete race that the true fans
will stay up for.

We talk a lot about what is driving viewers from NASCAR, and we usuallt
talk about the follow the leader races, bad race tracks, snotty drivers,
etc. And I agree with those points. But I think we overlook the
expensive big network contracts. That is responsible for the later start
times which put the races in the afternoon purgatory. It was also
indirectly responsible for the cha$e and the COT.


  51.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
  05.26.2009 - 7:55 pm
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"I thought Stewart matured a little after buying a stake in a
pre-existing team but I guess not."

I thought so too at first. But if you think about it, he hasn't had much
to complain about. With zero expectations his cars have run well beyond
expectations. But even when the few little things have gone wrong this
year, he reacted like a child.

After Newman blew a tire in Daytona, he once again went on his rant
towards Goodyear. His argument that Hoosier should take over is totally
ridiculous. They tried to get involved twice, and both times were
disasters. He needs to go ask Geoff Bodine how the Hoosiers worked for
him in 1994. That is if Geoff can even remember 1994. He hit the wall so
many times that year after blowing tires he probably lost his memory
from that year. Seriously, he probably woke up one day around 1996 or so
and said to himself "What the hell am I doing in Alan Kulwicki's car?"


  52.   b4il3y posted:
  05.26.2009 - 8:29 pm
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Since so many people are whining about fluke victories...lets just take
away all "fluke" wins. None of them count. Nada. Go back through history
and see how many races ended in rain-outs and someone pulled the trigger
for a win. Or...last lap accidents that hand a win to someone. It's part
of the sport. Richard Petty once said, "sometimes its not about being in
the lead, just being in a position to win". Winner of the 1979 Daytona
500 btw, 10+ seconds off the lead into the white flag lap and wins the race.

A win is a win is a win. Get over it, be happy for the guy, and hope
this motivates him and his team to put together a finish line win..which
the driver is more than capable of doing.


  53.   Bronco posted:
  05.26.2009 - 8:48 pm
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I'm glad some of you brought up Stewart. I respect him for his driving
talent as well as his charitable deeds, but sometimes he makes a real
ass out of himself when he opens his mouth. Case in point - the
Reutimann/Stewart altercation. He basically bitched about Reutimann
racing him too hard and stated that there were 425 miles left in the
race. Look up at the sky Tony, did you really think the race was going
to be run to its full distance?? I hope Tony enjoys washing the egg of
his face that "Billy Bad Butt" threw at him after Reutimann won. Looks
like Reutimann was the one who raced "smart".

The way I see it, he probably harbors a grudge towards Reutimann for
putting Newman in the wall during the Gatorade Duels. Now that he's an
owner I guess he knows what it feels like when your car winds up on the
hook.

I understand when drivers complain about someone wrecking them or racing
dirty, but guys who bitch about others racing them too hard are idiots.
If they don't like being raced hard, then maybe its time they joined the
start and park business. Phil Parsons is always hiring!


  54.   Red posted:
  05.26.2009 - 8:50 pm
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If a race is weather-shortened, why not revert back to the running order
at the moment the final caution was thrown? That way nobody could
"steal" the race by staying out. For this race that would have made
Busch, Kahne, Montoya, Logano, and Edwards the top five - a much better
representation of who was strong during the race.


  55.   Kirkyal posted:
  05.26.2009 - 9:05 pm
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Man this race was difficult to watch! Rain delays suck! Have to say
though FOX did well to keep my spirits high and oh yeah my man David
Reutimann got the victory!

I know it the rain helped (a lot) but i am a massive fan of Reutimann so
i am very pleased!

Also David Gilliland and Kevin Buckler show the true spirit of NASCAR!


  56.   Chris posted:
  05.26.2009 - 10:00 pm
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DaleSrFanForever, here you go again bashing MWR. Get over it. They won
and I'm sorry you are POed about it. Maybe thats something you should
bring up at your next appointment with your therapist.


  57.   Dodge posted:
  05.26.2009 - 10:12 pm
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Read that Robby Gordon's car had the rear end housing confiscated. It it
turns out illegal, I say nail him with a 12 week suspension, 200 point
penalty. He deserves it more than Carl Long. Last year I was kinda
pulling for Robby since he was in a dodge. But, now I revert to previous
years going against Robby.


  58.   Kit posted:
  05.26.2009 - 10:39 pm
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"but tony kept his head cool when the gad dang interviewers came over to
see what the heck happened and didnt cuss like i know was a guarantee if
this was 2006-08."

So it's an improvement from cussing to calling crew chiefs names like a
10-year-old?

The fact is, Tony Stewart shouldn't have had an issue with Reutimann in
the first place! Stewart has done WAY worse on the track. Stewart has
damaged his own car by purposely hitting other drivers on the track
after getting pissed off. Don't throw rocks when you live in a glass house.

Stewart has always been about the drama. There's few other drivers who
are consistently throwing fits like that.

"but i was really upset with fox in this race i think the report card
stuff was crap as well as anything else they talked about "

The report card I agree with. Just about every multi-car team except for
Hendrick sucks this year.

"it was absolutely unnecessary and something fox jumped all over so they
could fill some camera time"

I agree, Fox shouldn't play favorites in a situation like that. Totally
unprofessional.

"but afterwards everything was resolved as they were pushing the car
into the makeshift victory lane tony stewart called up reatimann"

Stewart was just saving face. There shouldn't have been a situation to
resolve in the first place.

"and congratulated David for his win which really shows how far tony has
matured since his home depot days it must have been hard for him to
swallow but he still did the right thing and i commend him for it."

You're joking, right? Yeah, Stewart has really matured for being a
crybaby in the first place then trying to save face afterwards when the
driver he bitched about won the race without any major on-track incidents.

"oh yeah and Kit, youll be getting a comment on the tony stewart page
before long about comments made there."

And why should I be concerned with this?

"I understand Kit, NASCAR doesn't control the weather, but if a track
has lights, they should go as late as need be."

Dodge, the DPS didn't want that many people at the track that late in
the week because of all the traffic issues. Also, people needed to go
back to work. There's no point of restarting a race at 4AM on a Tuesday
morning when nobody is at the track and nobody is watching on TV. The
teams also have to prepare for the next weekend.

I know I said that the last Daytona 500 sucked, but the reality is
NASCAR makes the rule that if they run half-way and it rains, the race
is official. EVERYONE agrees to that when they show up to race. David
Reutimann is the winner.

"I understand when drivers complain about someone wrecking them or
racing dirty, but guys who bitch about others racing them too hard are
idiots."

That's the hilarious part: Stewart HAS wrecked someone intentionally on
the track and HAS raced dirty. Yet he's complaining about Reutimann
"racing too hard." That's like bitching about jaywalkers when you're
driving 40 m.p.h. over the speed limit.

"If a race is weather-shortened, why not revert back to the running
order at the moment the final caution was thrown?"

Busch and Kahne could have won if they stayed out. They elected to pit.
Their loss.

Chris, Michael Waltrip sucks, get over it.


  59.   New14&88 Fan posted:
  05.27.2009 - 12:32 am
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@Chirs

DSFF can bash MWR when he wants,where he wants,and how he wants.I don't
hear Michael Waltrip complaining about his criticism so it probably
doesn't bother him as much you believe it should.


The 88 team's craptastic preformance here may have been the straw that
broke the camel's back as far as Tony Eury Jr. being the crew cheif is
concerned.

http://www.nascar.com/2009/news/headlines/cup/05/26/dearnhardtjr.teuryjr.future.ap/index.html

If Hendrick does sack him,the next thing he needs to do is have a
heart-to-heart with Dale Jr. and tell him to get his head back in the
game...the same goes for the rest of the 88 crew as well.


  60.   John Royal posted:
  05.27.2009 - 3:57 am
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One of the rare occassions of cup race ending daylight time :D

I couldn't see this live because of NBA playoffs, but boy I didn't miss
anything after seeing tape of this race. Very sad race, too bad because
Reutimann really deserves winning in "real" race. I would liked to see
Robby at victory lane.


  61.   Dodge posted:
  05.27.2009 - 9:26 am
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As I said before what if a supposed crew chief change doesn't work, do
you the consider moving the driver. Why not have one of the "TEAMMATES"
hop in his car to see what is the problem, the 88 is the former 25 car
and they have never been given a fair opportunity. I personally think
Dale doesn't care much about winning because he is still making a ton of
money. Some drivers appear that they don't really care one bit. I think
Jr. falls into this catagory.


  62.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
  05.27.2009 - 12:36 pm
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What they need to do is immediately red flag the race if it starts
raining past halfway. This will prevent fluke victories like this one.
At least at this year's Daytona 500, the final finishing order was how
they were running under green at the time of the rain, and the winner
actually made a green flag pass. Don't make the teams guess weather or
not the race will restart.

But as I said on David's driver page, he deserves to be a winner. What
he has done at that organization is amazing. He 100% deserves the
nickname "The Franchise" because he is the franchise over there. He has
been by far the lone bright spot in MWR's extremely ugly history.

You have had Dale Jarrett, the once proud champion, running like
complete garbage and missing many races even after being granted 6 past
champion's provisionals. You have had Michael McDowall trying to break
the record for most spectacular crashes in a single year. You have had
the company's namesake once again showing many of NASCAR's dirty little
secrets: You don't have to be a good driver to win the sports biggest
race (multiple times!), you don't have to be a good driver to get
sponsorship, you don't have to be a good driver to start over 1000 races
in NASCAR, you don't have to be a good driver to get more air time than
past champions. And of course the ugly scandals. Putting jet fuel in
your car has to be one of the dumbest things you could possibly do. And
then they stole one of Roush's sway bars.

Yet here is David, running in the Top 10 and sniffing a cha$e spot. Yes
it was a total fluke, but he deserves that trophy.


  63.   Anonymous posted:
  05.27.2009 - 4:27 pm
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"I don't hear Michael Waltrip complaining about his criticism so it
probably doesn't bother him as much you believe it should."

Why do we care whether or not it bothers Michael Waltrip? We talk about
it because it bothers us. Like DSFF said, Waltrip gets more air time
than past CHAMPIONS.

What the hell is he doing as a truck series announcer, anyway? He can't
race and he sure doesn't have any room to criticize other drivers. It's
like if the network hired Ryan Leaf to commentate during a Cowboys
playoff game and be critical of Tony Romo.


  64.   Baker posted:
  05.27.2009 - 4:28 pm
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Nascar is being an inconsistant joke yet again. Carl Long is docked 200
points for fielding a car that has zero chance of competing and single
digit chance of even finishing the race. Robby Gordon has an illegal car
and steals a 3rd place finish and they only docked him 50 points. What a
joke. I'm about done with this WWF garbage. Come on Stewart go back to
open wheel so I don't have to watch this rigged racing anymore.


  65.   CFob posted:
  05.27.2009 - 9:41 pm
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All these whiners on this site disgust me. People piss and moan about
how the top, expensive teams win all the time. And on a rare weekend
when TWO count them TWO races were won by teams who hadn't won races in
the series they raced in a long time (Or ever in the case of MWR)and all
people do is complain about how the wins were stolen.

When you are a team facing a stacked deck against the Gibbs's,
Hendrick's and Roush's, unless you hit a miracle set up the only way you
can win is a lucky break. This weekend both Mike Bliss and David
Reutimann got those breaks.

Instead of being jealous of the fact that you all will never get the
chance to do what these guys did Memorial Day Weekend at Charlotte, sit
back and give them a tip of your hat. They deserve it.


  66.   nn posted:
  05.27.2009 - 10:41 pm
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The winner ain't the one with the fastest car, it's the one who refuses
to lose... or in this case, waits 2 and a half hours for Nascar to call
a race at a track plagued by rain since Saturday.


  67.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
  05.27.2009 - 10:50 pm
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"Why do we care whether or not it bothers Michael Waltrip? We talk about
it because it bothers us."

Exactly. I come here to discuss NASCAR with NASCAR fans and share my
view points.

"What the hell is he doing as a truck series announcer, anyway? He can't
race and he sure doesn't have any room to criticize other drivers."

One other thing: His commentary totally sucks. He tries to be dramatic
and over the top, but just comes off as pathetic and trying too hard.
The Truck Series is the last piece of true racing left in NASCAR's upper
tier, and he spoils it with his crappy clown routine.


  68.   Neal posted:
  05.27.2009 - 11:33 pm
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Baker - The oversized engine is to NASCAR what gambling on baseball is
to Major League Baseball. It's the cardinal sin.


  69.   petty43 posted:
  05.28.2009 - 9:13 am
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anybody know where reuitiman was running before that final caution?


  70.   Dodge posted:
  05.28.2009 - 9:32 am
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I disagree on Michael announcing the trucks. I like it when he does
announce. At least he knows what he is talking about. My opinion is that
I rather listen to drivers announce the race because they are going to
tell you what the drivers are thinking at that particular time.
However, I like Phil Parsons but he really has no business announcing
trucks because he has never raced a truck race.
Also, it shouldn't matter what you get caught cheating for, Robby should
be dealt with just as harshly as Carl was.
I hope Carl wins his appeal. Long's crew chief was rushed to a hospital
with heart problems after he heard the penalty.


  71.   Baker posted:
  05.28.2009 - 10:31 am
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Neal - Who cares? Punishment doesn't fit the crime. Maybe if it wasn't a
worn down over the hill hype of junk then we'd have an issue.


  72.   Anonymous posted:
  05.28.2009 - 4:24 pm
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"At least he knows what he is talking about."

No he doesn't. He doesn't know much about racing because he has only won
FOUR times, all on plate tracks, in over 700 starts. His Busch record
isn't that great either considering how much Cup experience he has.

"My opinion is that I rather listen to drivers announce the race because
they are going to tell you what the drivers are thinking at that
particular time."

Well then, why don't we just hire a Budweiser delivery truck driver to
announce the race then? Waltrip is about on the same level when it comes
to racing.


  73.   DaleSrFanForever posted:
  05.29.2009 - 12:30 pm
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The only thing Mikey is an expert on is losing. He has done it in NASCAR
more than 1,000 times, the only driver to reach that milestone.


  74.   Dodge posted:
  05.29.2009 - 1:35 pm
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DSFF
I like you and I understand you don't like Mikey, but PLEASE stop with
the 1,000 losses.


  75.   Kit posted:
  05.30.2009 - 1:39 am
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The anonymous comments above are mine.

Dodge, I would like Michael Waltrip to PLEASE stop pretending to be a
racing celebrity, but that isn't happening, either.


  76.   John Royal posted:
  05.30.2009 - 12:04 pm
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< joke>

In Cup series Waltrip has lost 733 races when Richard Petty has lost 984
races

< /joke>


  77.   Ryan posted:
  05.31.2009 - 6:30 pm
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Another big race that is really embarrassing for Nascar. Nascar's last
"Big Four" races have ended or been a disaster. The Brickyard 400 (Tires
were awful), the Daytona 500 (Arguably the biggest race in the world
only goes 370 miles), the Aaron's 499 (the catch fence almost gives way
to Edwards), and the 600 ends because of rain... It's no wonder Nascar
is losing its fans. I always thought I would be loyal to Nascar, but
it's getting really hard to be these days. It's getting really rough for
everyone.


  78.   Daniel posted:
  05.22.2012 - 10:45 am
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In using fastest 43: #41 J.J. Yeley

Out using fastest 43: #43 Reed Sorenson


  79.   CBASS posted:
  02.03.2013 - 8:06 am
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  80.   LASTCAR posted:
  04.24.2013 - 12:58 pm
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Mike Bliss picked up the 4th last-place finish of his career in Monday's
rain-delayed and rain-shortened Coca-Cola 600 at the Lowe's Motor
Speedway when his #09 Miccosukee Indian Gaming and Resorts Dodge fell
out with a vibration after completing 42 of the race's 227 laps.

Bliss' tumultuous weekend in Charlotte began on Thursday with a
surprising 7th-fastest qualifying run for the 600 at a speed of 187.422
mph. The run was his second top-10 start in as many Cup races; he
started 6th at Richmond three weeks earlier. In Saturday night's
Nationwide Series race, Bliss was the benefactor of a wild finish. A
late-race caution during green-flag stops trapped leaders Kyle Busch and
Brian Vickers a lap down, moving Bliss and Brendan Gaughan into the
lead. Bliss took the lead from Gaughan just before the rains came,
ultimately ending the race with 30 laps to go and giving Bliss his first
Nationwide Series victory in five years.

Despite the victory and a determination to run the entire 600-miler the
next day, Bliss fell back on Monday and went behind the wall under the
third caution on lap 40, a scheduled competition caution, with a bad
vibration. Bliss did not return to the race and was credited with
completing 42 laps.

The finish was both Bliss and owner James Finch's second last-place
finish of 2009, the previous being the Kobalt Tools 500 at Atlanta. For
Bliss, it is also his second last-place finish at the Lowe's Motor
Speedway, the previous one being the fall race in 2000, then called the
UAW-GM Quality 500. It is the first time a last-place finisher fell out
with a vibration since Derrike Cope fell out of the 2006 Crown Royal 400
at Richmond en route to scoring a record six last-place finishes in a
single year.

2009 RANKINGS
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2nd) Mike Bliss (2)
3rd) Todd Bodine, David Gilliland, Matt Kenseth, Joey Logano, Mark
Martin, Joe Nemechek, Tony Raines (1)

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  81.   Nascar Lead Lap Points posted:
  10.27.2015 - 5:07 pm
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Owner Update
#66 Michael Waltrip

In 2009, MWR fielded a car for Dave Blaney at the Coca Cola 600. The car
was sponsored by Aaron's and used Prism's #66.

This was also the last race Blaney finished in 2009

Funny thing is both races where the #66 finished where both rained
shorten races


  82.   Windows Millennium Edition posted:
  03.12.2016 - 7:44 pm
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  83.   The Other Anonymous posted:
  05.04.2017 - 7:35 am
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Any driver running 1st through 13th could have won the race if they
stayed out.
Among them were Joey Logano (ended up winning a rained shortened race
later in the season), Juan Pablo Montoya (left NASCAR without an oval
win), and Brian Vickers (also won later in the season)

Robby Gordon was running 24th before staying out. Any driver ahead of
him but behind Ryan Newman that would have stayed out and finished 3rd
could have been.....

Sam Hornish Jr.
Scott Speed
David Stremme

Which would have been a career best finish for all 3 drivers.


  84.   Gabriel posted:
  05.24.2018 - 7:32 pm
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What a wonderful tribute NASCAR did for our fallen heroes at Lap 164.
Wish they'd do that every race.


  85.   SK posted:
  03.24.2019 - 8:13 pm
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Sponsor updates:

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  86.   WindowsME posted:
  07.16.2019 - 12:13 am
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I still can't believe to this day how bad Dale Jr.'s car was for the
entire race. I don't think he cracked the top 30 from like lap 3 until
the end of the race.

The RCR cars were horrible as well. Harvick had his problems early in
the race, I believe Bowyer and Mears spent half the night outside the
top 30, and Burton wasn't too much better. The intermediate tracks just
killed this team throughout 2009.


  87.   Nathan8848 posted:
  07.16.2019 - 6:53 am
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The comments mirror this years Coke Zero 400 so closely.


  88.   Rich posted:
  12.06.2020 - 10:21 pm
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Mike Joy, Larry McReynolds and Darrell Waltrip were the commentators.
Steve Byrnes, Krista Voda, Dr. Dick Berggren and Matt Yocum were the pit
road reporters. Chris Myers and Jeff Hammond were in the Hollywood hotel.


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