|| *Comments on the 2009 Sharpie 500:* View the most recent comment <#71> | Post a comment <#post> 1. Willy on Wheels posted: 08.23.2009 - 8:06 am Rate this comment: (1) (3) Kyle Busch sucks 2. Baker posted: 08.23.2009 - 8:22 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Dave Blaney better know his role from now on. WTF is a start and parker doing running a Top 10 car into the wall? And then who does Reed Sorenson think he is punting Joey Logano? Seriously, the kid is finally starting to get it and running up front more often then these two jokes of talent ruin his day before it even started. Those two combined don't have as much talent as Logano has in one toe and they drive like they owned the track. Pathetic. 3. Scott posted: 08.23.2009 - 9:12 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) You know at first with Martin leading all those consectutive laps like that, I thought, "Here we go, another yawner like last year". But it turned out alright. Too bad for Jr. on the last restart, Greg Biffle was slow with the gears, which caused the whole inside to slow behind Jr:( 4. Scott posted: 08.23.2009 - 9:14 am Rate this comment: (0) (4) Oh by the way, I can't stand these double-file restarts. Just put it back the way it was, with lapped cars on the inside and lead lappers on the outside. 5. Jr Nation posted: 08.23.2009 - 9:46 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jr's back!!! 6. New14&88 Fan posted: 08.23.2009 - 9:59 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) Is it just me,or was Mark Martin way too easy on Kyle Busch.Him saying Kyle wouldn't of used the bump n' run on him almost made me facepalm...no doubt if the roles were reversed Rowdy wouldn't of thought twice about hitting Mark up out the way for the win. Marcos Ambrose continues to impress,who would of thought he'd run this good at Bristol in just two starts...it's a crying shame he isn't in the running for ROTY. 7. Bronco posted: 08.23.2009 - 10:06 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Whoever said Mark Martin isn't aggressive enough a few weeks back was right. Mark could have and should have roughed up Shrub a bit, but he didn't. Dale Jr has back to back top tens for the first time since Richmond-New Hampshire almost a year ago. Atlanta and Richmond are some of his best tracks, so good runs there might indicate his team has come around. Tony Stewart has by far his worst race of 2009. Michael Waltrip was having a good run before that last crash. Morgan McClure makes their first race since the 2007 fall Martinsville race with Ward Burton driving. Scott Wimmer did a good job for that team. Dave Blaney somehow qualified 4th, yet was in the garage after a grand total of 8 laps. He must feel so proud. 8. Anonymous posted: 08.23.2009 - 10:15 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Mark Martin had the better car, but didn't win because of two factor: He is too clean of a driver, Micheal Waltrip crashing. Kyle Busch is the youngest cup driver to get 16 wins. I don't know if he is back on track since maturity is an issue for him. Kyle not a threat to win the championship since he is extremely streaky and immature. Marcos Ambrose had a great run. Ambrose is the biggest surprise of the year. I don't what happened after the final restart to Dale Earnhardt Jr. . He was 5th when the final caution came out. I can't say he is back yet. I can't say he is back yet. . I have to say the car got better during the race, not worse for Dale Jr. That is the first time I could say that in a while for him. Scott Speed got his be finish since Talladega. Micheal Waltrip needs to get out the race car now. I know he had a top 15 car, but he was in the way after his team didn't bring him in for fresh tires after a couple cautions prior to his crash. 9. DaleJrFan18 posted: 08.23.2009 - 10:41 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) One Word: Anticlimactic. Mark really should have shoved Busch out of the way and whoed him his place. It would have been nice to hear the whambulance again. And Jr shows last weeks finish was no fluke by getting a solid top 10. It could have been better if not for a bad restart. 10. Kit posted: 08.23.2009 - 11:34 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Whoever said Mark Martin isn't aggressive enough a few weeks back was right. Mark could have and should have roughed up Shrub a bit, but he didn't." Yeah, man, this is what has kept him out of championships. There's plenty of races like this one where he could have either won or at least finished a couple of spots higher. He didn't even need to put anyone in the wall or anything, just be a little more aggressive. It's pathetic that he led almost half the laps, had the best car on the track, and still could not win. He's one of the old school drivers I never paid a huge amount of attention to because of that. "Kyle not a threat to win the championship since he is extremely streaky and immature." No kidding. 11. Jackie posted: 08.23.2009 - 11:37 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jr. nation is excited about a 9th place run. How pathetic!Kyle Busch continues to make Hendricks decision to let him go to get a high priced pitchman in his car look foolish. 12. rw posted: 08.23.2009 - 12:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "And then who does Reed Sorenson think he is punting Joey Logano? Seriously, the kid is finally starting to get it and running up front more often then these two jokes of talent ruin his day before it even started. Those two combined don't have as much talent as Logano has in one toe and they drive like they owned the track. Pathetic. " Guess you never saw a Bristol race before. Glad to see Jr is back though by coming with a smooth Top 10. Nice shoutout to Ambrose for finishing 3rd. Biffle apparently is making his case that he wants to be in Chase, hope he succeeds. You cant help but also feel sorry for Kevin Harvick even though most people dont like him, the guy hasn't had a break all year. As he recorded his 2nd DNF even though he normally finishes races. 13. 18fan posted: 08.23.2009 - 12:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This proves again what a clean racer Mark Martin is. He had the best car and could have easily bumped Kyle, but he chose to try to outrace Kyle. Good finish to a race that was a snoozer for 300 laps. 14. DaleSrFanForever posted: 08.23.2009 - 12:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I want the old Bristol back. Mark Martin makes his 1,000th NASCAR start. This is one that is actually worth celebrating, unlike the other guy who had his last year. For the second consecutive night Kevin Harvick uses his own front bumper to screw himself. He dumped his teammate (who still had a realistic shot at the cha$e) and ended up getting wrecked himself. He wants out of RCR, I say fire his ass now. He has been making waves all year, generally showing a bad attitude about a down year, and asking out. Now he dumps his teammate. If I were RC, I'd say see ya later and good luck finding another owner as patient as I was with you. 15. Rusty posted: 08.23.2009 - 12:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Man, Kurt had a top 5 run ruined. But atleast they managed a 7th place finish. 16. Ryan posted: 08.23.2009 - 1:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jr's back!!! 9th place didn't do him any justice. He very well could have got third if not for Biffle messing up at the start... 17. Elias posted: 08.23.2009 - 1:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Martin Truex had a strong top 10 car for most of the race before getting a flat tire after running into the back of Jamie McMurray (who had one of his better runs this year). If Truex's luck would turn around he could be in the top 15 in points. Brian Vickers tied his career best finish at Bristol with a 12th place finish after getting two lucky dogs earlier in the race. Carl Edwards, Kasey Kahne, and Tony Stewart had terrible nights compared to what they have done at Bristol in the past. Mark Martin became the 13th driver to lead over 1,000 laps in the Cup series at Bristol. This was Mark Martin's 57th career second place finish in a Cup race putting him one behind Darrell Waltrip and two behind Cale Yarborough. Martin has six second place finishes at Bristol. Mark also became the 8th driver to have 250 career top 5 finishes in the Cup series. Jimmie Johnson remains winless at Bristol after his pit crew had problems with the right rear tire on the final stop. Kyle Busch became the 11th driver to win at least three Cup races at Bristol. Busch's 16th career win tied him with Carl Edwards on the all-time win list. 18. Eric posted: 08.23.2009 - 2:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jackie, I disagree with you comment about Hendricks decision to let Kyle Busch go. Rick made that decision based on what he saw and the input he got from key members of Hendrick Motorsports. Rick can't be blamed for getting a rid of Kyle Busch. Most owners wouldn't put up with Kyle Busch alsofrom a personality stand point since he is extremely immature. Kyle quite on his team while he was at Hendrick for cried out loud. Rick got sick of Kyle's antics like quitting on your team like he did at Texas. Kyle is a great talent behind the wheel, but he is the most immature driver on the cup side right now and is hard to control. I would fire Kyle after 2007 also. 19. Smokefan05 posted: 08.23.2009 - 2:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Mark Martin will never win a Cup with driving like that. Kyle Busch would have used the bumper on him so Mark should have moved him. I've lost respect for Mark. Marcos good job dude. Another good run for Jr., i hope he can build on this. Mikey had a good run before a cut tire ruined his night. 20. rexbyron posted: 08.23.2009 - 3:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) now that jr. has a new pit board, which keeps him from overshooting his pits, and a new crew chief who knows what jr. wants in a race car, everyone should look out.....i guarantee he wins 5 races the rest of the year. denny hamlin is a shoo-in to win this year's championship, but next year it's gonna be JUNIORTIME, babeeeee!!! 21. Eric posted: 08.23.2009 - 4:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) rexbyron, Jr. might be capable of winning anywhere from 1 to 3 races rest of the year, but 5 is too high for him right now. I know he could win at Richmond, Talladega, Phoenix, and Martinsville based on his past, but the odds are he will not win at all those tracks later on this year. Jr. only won more than 3 races in a season once in his career. The other issue is the drivers in the chase could be at their peak racing wise during the chase. 22. Ryan posted: 08.23.2009 - 4:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) lol at rexbyron... I'm a loyal Earnhardt fan and winning one race is a reach and winning two is even an farther reach. Winning five is unrealistic, but... He is back!!! Jr's back!!! 23. rexbyron posted: 08.23.2009 - 5:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) he's gonna win 5, and here's why..... 1. drivers in the chase are going to be cautious, while jr. can go all out 2. the guys NOT in the chase have little incentive. ok, neither is jr. in the chase, but he has more motivation than anyone to prove the doubters. 3. many lame duck drivers, like truex, harvick, mcmurray, etc, have packed it in, eliminating more competition. 4. he will receive the latest cutting edge hendrick R and D equipment, which, if it lasts the whole race, will be absolutely unbeatable. 5. he has won at least once on more than 5 of the remaining tracks 6. hendrick's teams are cyclical....mark ran like crap early in the year, then took off big time. gordon ran well early, now he looks like robby gordon 2 out of 3 races. johnson has been having the pit issues now that kept jr. out of victory lane earlier in the year. this is jr.'s time to shine, babeee. 24. CarlEdwards99 posted: 08.23.2009 - 6:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) as a Martin fan it's tough to watch Mark not use the bump and run and it made me mad at first. But I than remember: it's the fact that he wouldn't use the bump and run even on a dirty driver like Kyle is the reason so many of us cheer for the guy all of these years. The man is class period Also, the 5 car and 48 car was the class of the field. How many times have we've heard that the past few weeks? Those 2 teams are starting to hit there stride and I think Stewart may of peaked to early. I think it's going to be Martin vs. Johnson for the championship. Martin has had his heart broken by a dynasty twice before (Dale sr and the RCR #3 in the early 90's when they were on top of there game and Jeff and Ray in the last 90's), will it happen a 3rd time? Is it the 48 teams turn to break Mark's heart? One things for sure, this time when Mark takes on a dynasty, he will have much more equal equipment. 25. New14&88 Fan posted: 08.23.2009 - 7:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) LMAO it's been such a bummer year for Jr.Nation that they're celebrating a 9th place finish like it's a gift from above. Dale Jr. could have an outside chance of winning at Talladega based on his run there in the spring,but hoping for more wins than that is wishful thinking. 26. DaleSrFanForever posted: 08.23.2009 - 7:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Rick made a good decision to get rid of Kyle, even though Jr hasn't done much on the race track. Unless everything is perfect for Kyle he totally pitches a fit. 27. Willy on Wheels posted: 08.23.2009 - 8:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'd hire Junior over Cryle in an instant BTW Junior was running in the top 5 until he spun his wheels or missed a gear or something like that on the final restart 28. Pork Rind posted: 08.23.2009 - 8:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Mark Martin is one of the greatest drivers ever, but being Mr. Nice Guy has given him four 2nd place finishes in the year end points standings. Dale Earnhardt would wreck anyone, anytime, for any reason, and he had 7 points titles to his name. 29. Anonymous posted: 08.23.2009 - 9:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) rexbyron, Your a little bit off on your theory on chase drivers being cautious. Carl Edwards won races by fuel mileage in the chase last year. Jimmy Johnson won 4 races in a row in the chase in 2007. There are up to 3 drivers they will be in the chase and have been driving cautious. Martin, Montoya, and Matt Kenseth. Some of the drivers that will be in chase just don't the equipment or the pit crew choke under pressure. I can't say there are a lot of lame duck drivers this year. Harvick isn't being lot go from contract this year. Truex, Stremme, Bobby Labonte Jamie McMurray are the only drivers that are full time and their contracts are up or leaving after the season. David Reutimann's option was picked up. There are way driver's contracts up after next year than last year. Here are the driver's contracts that are supposedly up after next year according to Jayski: Kyle Busch Kevin Harvick [rumor has him looking to get out of contract at end of 2009] Jimmie Johnson [but unlikely he would leave Hendrick] Kasey Kahne Mark Martin [or could retire after 2010] David Reutimann Elliott Sadler 30. Anonymous posted: 08.23.2009 - 9:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) rexbyron, It is true that Dale Jr. has won at Atlanta, Richmond, Dover, Talladega and Phoneix. Here are the problems with winning on all 5 tacks this year: Atlanta - Atlanta isn't a chase race this year year unlike past years. Most chase drivers will go all the way out for more wins going for extra points to start the chase with for a chance to be points leader after the Richmond race. Richmond - Jr. is great here, but a lot of chase drivers will be motivated to win another race here because this is the final race before the chase. Wins will determine will the drivers will start in points beginning the chase. Dover - Jr. is streaky here. It will not be easy for him to win here do his track record. Talladega - could win despite not winning here since 2004. The other reason him winning here is a good amount chase drivers are not good here. Phoenix - Jr. is capable of a win here despite not winning here since 2004. 31. rexbyron posted: 08.23.2009 - 9:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) dalesrfan, you are right on the money about hiring jr over cryle..... if you are hendrick, have 4 teams and 500 employees, do you want a punk like kyle to be a representative of your company?? no way! jr. might not be the 2nd coming like we thought he might be, but he does things with humility and class, which are 2 things the busch parents never taught either one of their kids. and those that think kyle is good for the sport are crazy.....is terrel owens good for football???? mike vick???? c'mon, the problem with all those guys is that they have no class....kyle smashing the guitar at nashville was just like TO's endless self promoting...and those who have compared kyle to tim richmond as a "breath of fresh air" never saw tim richmond and how he handled himself in the media and around fans. 32. Kit posted: 08.23.2009 - 10:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "You cant help but also feel sorry for Kevin Harvick even though most people dont like him, the guy hasn't had a break all year." I don't feel sorry for him. His attitude will take him out of RCR and there's really not any other open rides as good or better than what he's in now. He has such a big opinion of himself that his career will collapse under the weight of it. "Kyle is a great talent behind the wheel, but he is the most immature driver on the cup side right now and is hard to control." What Kryle Busch doesn't realize is that there's plenty of drivers before him and after him who were just as good if not better. Hendrick didn't need him, why would he put up with the drama? He already has Jeff Gordon and Jimmie Johnson. We don't need a bullet list of how great Jr. is going to do the rest of the season. He has done jack shit the past several seasons. "I'd hire Junior over Cryle in an instant" Jr. will complain but it's only to his crew chief and he won't try to blow up the damn engine if he loses. 33. CarlEdwards99 posted: 08.24.2009 - 4:25 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Mark Martin is one of the greatest drivers ever, but being Mr. Nice Guy has given him four 2nd place finishes in the year end points standings. Dale Earnhardt would wreck anyone, anytime, for any reason, and he had 7 points titles to his name." it's just not a clean vs. dirty issue. Though that's part of it, it has more to do with conservative vs. aggressive issue IMO. Mark's conservative nature is down right absurd at times. As a Martin/Edwards fan I can live with not bumping Kyle out of the way, as I said, it's times like that is the reason I consider myself a fan of the guy. But what I can't live with is the restart at Indy or not willing to go outside his comfort zone and stick to the inside line to restart at Chicago. Theres a difference between a clean driver and a conservative driver. What happened this race was a clean driver, what happened at Indy was a conservative driver 34. Matt G posted: 08.24.2009 - 12:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ā??Thereā??s a difference between a clean driver and a conservative driver. What happened this race was a clean driver, what happened at Indy was a conservative driver.ā? I disagree. The Bump and Run is the signature move at Bristol and there are plenty of ā??cleanā? drivers who have used it to win races there over the years. (Jeff Gordon and Carl Edwards come to mind.) Even though the new Bristol has two lanes it is still very difficult to pass. Last yearā??s Bump and run victory by Carl Edwards and Mark Martinā??s unwillingness to use it this year prove that the Chrome horn still has its place at this track. However I still second what DSFF said. I WANT THE OLD BRISTOL BACK!!! 35. DaleSrFanForever posted: 08.24.2009 - 2:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) rexbyron, I respect your opinion. First of I think it is cool that you chose one of the sport's pioneers as your user name. I'm also glad to see the optimism despite your driver's big time struggles. But I just don't see it happening this year, possibly ever. He seems to me to have given in to the struggles and pressure. His mind isn't right, and I'm not sure that it ever was. It is just that in the past he had his father and Tony Eury Sr there to bust his ass when he made mistakes. Now that he is by far the most popular driver in NASCAR and will get the same amount of money and attention no matter how he does on the race track, He has no incentive. Apparently the chance to be one of the all time greats isn't alluring to him. "What Kryle Busch doesn't realize is that there's plenty of drivers before him and after him who were just as good if not better. Hendrick didn't need him, why would he put up with the drama? He already has Jeff Gordon and Jimmie Johnson." Exactly. They all talk about his talent, but look where it has gotten him. HE has four wins and isn't even in the Top 12 right now. There are plenty of drivers with better car control than Kyle. "However I still second what DSFF said. I WANT THE OLD BRISTOL BACK!!!" I know man! This is just another race track now. It is a half mile Michigan. I miss watching them fight over that one narrow little groove. Luckily we still have Martinsville, the last true short track on the Cup schedule. 36. Haywood posted: 08.24.2009 - 3:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Everyone saying they wish Mark had put the bumper to Busch... well I was really rooting for him to, too. It was a very great finish and I was rooting my heart out for Martin, which is really foreign to me before this season. I didn't dislike Mark but 10+ years ago when he was running the best seasons anyone had ever seen (outside of Jeff Gordon's seasons around then), he was a negative nelly. I remember him getting out of a car and whining almost like Kyle Busch would whine. I also remember him constantly saying how he didn't like to race/drive but liked to win. I appreciate that but I also think you should enjoy your job considering. So over the years Mark became more down to earth and had more of a positive outlook on racing... and I became a fan. This season I was super excited for the big 4 at Hendrick as those guys are 4 of my favorite drivers. I was rooting him on every race this season he had a shot. However, I completely disagree with everyone who says that Kyle is a dirty driver or that he would have done the same. I am NOT a Kyle fan. I used to like him last season, even though he was very egotistical. His talent is second to none in the series, IMO. It was fun to watch him rack up win after win, but then this season he turned ugly. I can't stand hearing Kyle whine about running 2nd in the Nationwide series. He's miles ahead of everyone. He could finish dead last the next two weeks and still likely have the points lead, albeit very thin. He's having a season that ANYONE would kill for! And all he does is complain. I don't know what changed this season but his attitude needs a major adjustment because he'll never, ever win a Cup title this way. He has all the talent to win as many titles as he wants... but he has to learn from someone who used to be a hot head who wasn't a fan favorite for years, Tony Stewart. Tony was just like Kyle and had a lot of temper issues. If he can calm down and become a (likely) 3 time champ, so can Kyle. Anyway, if Mark was leading, I think there's no chance in hell Kyle would intentionally wreck him. Could they have both ended up in the wall like at Richmond when he wrecked Jr? Sure, but I don't think Kyle would think about wrecking Mark. I think there's a big difference between a 50 year old guy who has earned his stripes in the series, and a guy that Kyle is likely very very jealous of for all his popularity. Kyle probably gets along with Jr but I guarantee you he has to be majorly jealous of Jr's somewhat undue fan base. 37. Matt G posted: 08.24.2009 - 4:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I don't think Kyle would have wrecked Martin either Haywood but he defiantly would have moved him. For me there is a big difference between the Bump and Run and the Bump and Dump and Martin refuses to do either. I can understand that you donā??t want to wreck anybody but in that situation you have to at least give Kyle a little nudge. Heā??s talented enough to save it. I agree that if the roles were reversed Kyle would make an effort not to wreck Martin but I would also bet the house that a bump and run would have been part of his strategy. 38. Matt G posted: 08.24.2009 - 4:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hereā??s an idea for Nascar. Make sure that the next track you decide to build is the old Bristolā??s twin. (Maybe even make the banking 46 degrees) I know Nascar is only concerned about making money and could care less about the integrity of the sport but this will actually work out both ways. If you were to build a new track that was really just old Bristol in a different spot, it would not matter if it was in New York, Seattle, some cow pasture in Idaho or on the surface of the moon I guarantee you it would sell out. Iā??m not sure if Nascar realizes this but the only reason Bristol sold out again this race is because it is living off the reputation of old Bristol. Notice how all of the highlights in the prerace to get you pumped up came from races at old Bristol. (Exception being Busch/Edwards last year.) It may take a little while with Bristolā??s 100th race coming up but mark my words, that trackā??s sellout streak is in jeopardy. I also want to make one other thing clear. I donā??t think this new Bristol is a terrible track. Itā??s just that itā??s like getting a hamburger at a restaurant that used to serve steak 39. KobaltMan48 posted: 08.24.2009 - 11:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jr. is not back. 2 good runs may seem impressive, especially this year, but I guarentee he goes to Atlanta, practices bad, qualifies mid pack and finishes 16th to 25th. Sorry, I don't think he's got the stuff to keep running well this year. 40. Haywood posted: 08.25.2009 - 1:02 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) What I don't get about the Bristol hate is how people hate seeing constant side by side, fender banging action which the new track has produced, then they HATE IT when NASCAR visits california or texas or another 1.5m cookie-cutter track that features nothing but "old style" Bristol single-file racing. What do you guys want??? Side by side lap after lap, people having to actually drive to make passes, or single file, bump them or stay single file racing? I personally didn't hate the old Bristol, but I sure like the new one a hell of a lot more. All this whining about bad racing and finding reasons to complain just leads me to believe NASCAR fans just wanna bitch and moan no matter what. 41. Kit posted: 08.25.2009 - 1:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I used to like him last season, even though he was very egotistical. His talent is second to none in the series, IMO." I strongly disagree with you with the last statement. Like DSFF said, he has four wins and isn't even in the Chase currently. He also won like eight times last year and didn't really do much season-wise. So there's no way you can convince me that he's more talented than Mark Martin, Jimmie Johnson, even Kasey Kahne (who has done as much with less), Tony Stewart, Jeff Gordon, etc. I think DSFF nailed it: Kryle doesn't have good car control. He can take a good car to a win but he can't take a bad car to a good finish. He usually screws himself over or gets pissed off if he isn't winning. He doesn't understand that a race car driver is supposed to get the best possible finish out of what he's driving, not blow the engine up if it isn't the best car on the track. "Tony was just like Kyle and had a lot of temper issues. If he can calm down and become a (likely) 3 time champ, so can Kyle." I agree but Tony has better car control, doesn't get too pissed off when he can't win, and Stewart still does have some temper issues. Stewart took himself out of contention in a few races the past several seasons because of it. "then they HATE IT when NASCAR visits california or texas or another 1.5m cookie-cutter track that features nothing but "old style" Bristol single-file racing." There's a HUGE difference between a 1/2 mile track and a 1.5-mile track. You can't even compare them like that. So I don't really get what you're trying to say. 42. Talon64 posted: 08.25.2009 - 5:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The way Kyle complains about his car sometimes you'd think he's taking 40th place cars and finishing 5th with them. lol To doubt Kyle's ability is foolish, he's got the raw talent but he just needs to fix everything else like his attitude and his character to become a real championship contender. Then again his brother hadn't exactly become a saint yet before winning his championship. 43. Anonymous posted: 08.25.2009 - 6:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kit, How Kyle Busch wasn't doing nothing last year when he had 15 top 15's and 17 top 10's before the chase? Those totals before the chase had him leading in points before the fall Richmond race. The chase made his finish worse than it would have been without the chase. He would've had a top 5 points finish without the chase. Kyle was lousy doing the chase with him only getting 2 top's and 4 top 10's. You don't look at Bill Elliott down the stretch for the 1992 season. Bill had 3 out of 4 races finishing 26th or worse. If the Chase existed Bill wouldn't finish 2nd in points. 44. Anonymous posted: 08.25.2009 - 7:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I guess you will say Bill Elliott did nothing in 1992 either about doing nothing besides Bill's 5 wins. If you say Bill Elliott did something in 1992, you prove to be a troll, someone is very biased or is drunk. I am no Kyle Busch fan, but 17 top 5's in a year is considered a great season for most drivers. Kyle just faded down the stretch in the stretch like Bill Elliott did in 1995 and 1992. 45. Bronco posted: 08.25.2009 - 8:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "He also won like eight times last year and didn't really do much season-wise." Shrub won more races in a shorter time span than anyone else and he held the points lead longer than anyone else, so how the heck can you say he didn't do much season wise? It's the other way around, he didn't do much in the Chase, because his team gave him bad cars for the first three races. And as far as him not having good car control, that's bullshit. I am not a fan of his, but he is probably one of the best at making saves and driving loose cars. Shrub's 2008 season is pretty much the best example of how dumb the cha$e is. He wins 8 races and crushes the competition for most of the year, and officially finishes 10th, while someone like Bowyer who fluked his way into a win finishes 5th. 46. Kit posted: 08.25.2009 - 9:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "How Kyle Busch wasn't doing nothing last year when he had 15 top 15's and 17 top 10's before the chase?" He finished almost dead last in the Chase last year. Yeah, he won eight races but he had some poor finishes in several others. His 2008 season was pretty much a mirror of Ryan Newman's 2003 season. So yes, outside of the fact that he won eight races, he wasn't really a threat for a championship. This season has even been worse. He's won four races, yes, but he's been shit in a bunch of others. He's wildly inconsistent. What makes drivers like Dale Earnhardt legendary in my mind is that even when Earnhardt wasn't winning races, he was still finishing strong. Busch hasn't figured this out yet. If Earnhardt couldn't get the win, he'd at least go for the top five or the top 10. That's how he won so many championships. "To doubt Kyle's ability is foolish" I don't doubt his ability to win races, but I doubt his ability to be a championship contender and be consistently strong racer. 47. Anonymous posted: 08.25.2009 - 9:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) What I meant by "Kyle just faded down the stretch in the stretch like Bill Elliott did in 1995 and 1992" is Bill Elliott did in 1985 and 1992. The only difference was the fact there was no chase back 1992 and 1985. I don't drink or do drugs, I just pressed the wrong key without checking before I sent out the post. 48. Anonymous posted: 08.25.2009 - 9:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kit, How was Kyle Busch not a threat for the championship in 2008 before the chase when was leading by 208 points over Carl Edwards after the 25th race of the season and only had 4 finishes outside of the 20? Kyle during the chase did a major choke job. In the Chase, Kyle had 4 finshes 20th or worse in the first 5 chase races. 49. Talon64 posted: 08.26.2009 - 4:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kit, "I don't doubt his ability to win races, but I doubt his ability to be a championship contender and be consistently strong racer." Then we're on the same page. But it's easier to fix what's wrong with him than if he was just plain couldn't drive a race car. The funny thing is that the 80 bonus points he got for his wins last year was the only reason he even finished in the top 10, if the bonus points hadn't existed he would've been dead last and would've made it even more of a failure. 50. Kit posted: 08.27.2009 - 4:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'll write you all back in a day or two, things are busy on my end right now. 51. Kit posted: 08.28.2009 - 2:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "What I meant by "Kyle just faded down the stretch in the stretch like Bill Elliott did in 1995 and 1992" is Bill Elliott did in 1985 and 1992." You're comparing apples and oranges I'm afraid. Elliott still finished second in the points in both seasons. Hell, in '92 he only lost the championship by 10 points. Elliott could still finish strong even if he can't win a race. Busch gives up trying if he can't win. You can't even compare this season to 1985 or 1992 because Busch is nowhere near as dominant as Elliott was then. "How was Kyle Busch not a threat for the championship in 2008 before the chase when was leading by 208 points over Carl Edwards after the 25th race of the season and only had 4 finishes outside of the 20?" Maybe because he didn't do jack shit during the Chase? Plus finishing in the top 20 doesn't really indicate anything; JPM is capable of that. It doesn't matter how well you do in the first 26 races or whatever as long as you are in the Chase. Jeff Gordon learned this the hard way. This is why the Chase is shit. "But it's easier to fix what's wrong with him than if he was just plain couldn't drive a race car." What's wrong with him is psychological. It would be easier to just get someone like Kasey Kahne or David Reutimann into a championship-capable car and go from there. There's a good reason why Hendrick dumped Busch. But yes, I agree with you, Talon. "The funny thing is that the 80 bonus points he got for his wins last year was the only reason he even finished in the top 10, if the bonus points hadn't existed he would've been dead last and would've made it even more of a failure. " Very true. To me, all Busch has done so far is show that he can mimick Ryan Newman. Instead of winning one race and having a bad finish in the next, how about be consistently strong in every race AND win some? 52. DaleSrFanForever posted: 08.28.2009 - 5:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I just love the way Kyle goes one whole week without causing any controversy and every media outlet is talking about the "new mature" Kyle Busch. What a crock of steaming shit!! One whole week. Wow. You know what you call most people who go one week without acting like a spoiled child at their work? Employed for one more week. Kyle Busch better thank God every day he can drive a race car, cause he'd be a bum if he couldn't. He couldn't keep a job to save his life. 53. Kit posted: 08.29.2009 - 10:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yeah, it's funny how they make a big deal out of the way he's supposed to act in the first place. Everyone also talks about how Kurt Busch has matured. But Kurt Busch hasn't been dominant since he won his championship in 2004. He's no longer in the spotlight and that's part of the reason why we don't hear a peep out of him anymore. 54. Mike posted: 08.30.2009 - 12:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If Kyle Busch is going to make the chase he needs to run good at Atlanta. They are good on the short tracks but they have struggled at the Atlanta type race tracks so that's the big test for them. Dale Jr proves his run at Michigan was no fluke as he grabs a solid top 10. Not ready to say Jr is back yet but hopefully this is a sign of things to come. How about Marcos Ambrose! Great run for those guys. 55. DaleSrFanForever posted: 09.01.2009 - 5:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bobby Labonte got fired from HOF. He is the only driver that ever gave that car any form of respectability, so I guess it is justified they fired him to put a rookie in the car. Nothing against Erik Darnell, but that is certainly a head scratcher. On the plus side maybe he can get a decent ride now for the first time in a long time. Harvick wants out of RCR, Richard should let him go and give that car to Bobby so he can show Kevin how to handle yourself like a champion. I would say replace Casey Mears but I've already resigned myself to the fact that Casey is NASCAR's version of herpes. No matter how bad he is, he just won't go away. 56. Kit posted: 09.02.2009 - 12:56 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) That is the kind of crap those shit teams pull. They field second-rate junk and instead of improving the equipment, they'll blame the driver. I remember Ward Burton going through the same thing. I'd like to see Labonte pull a Sterling Marlin/Bill Elliott juggernaut resurgence. 57. Sean posted: 09.02.2009 - 1:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And pulling him for Atlanta, which is by far and away his best track, and a place he might have a (remote) shot for a top ten finish, even in that car? Really obnoxious. Bobby has made some odd moves in his career though. He was expected to move to the 42 car replacing McMurray for 2006, then went to Petty Enterprises, which was probably a worse ride (even though it may not have appeared that way with Robbie Loomis as team manager and Todd Parrott as crew chief), then after Petty Enterprises spontaneously combusted, he was expected to move to either RCR or Earnhardt-Ganassi, and instead chooses to drive for an R&D team (Hall of Fame) of an R&D team (Yates). Boggles my mind why he'd take either of those rides. Harvick's supposedly been re-signed, but we'll see. Maybe his past teammate association with Tony Stewart means he'll use him (and his past champion's provisional) to launch a third team until he retires. Since Labonte has a PCP, I still wouldn't be surprised if some team like the #37 Front Row team snatches him in the races he's now unsigned to lock themselves in, but that would even be worse than the ride he has. 58. Rusty posted: 09.02.2009 - 3:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Darnell brings a sponsor to the 96, that's why he'll be in the car. 59. Talon64 posted: 09.02.2009 - 6:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 7 races for Darnell. Wonder if he'll be in a Yates car fulltime in 2010? 60. DaleSrFanForever posted: 09.04.2009 - 8:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I can't help but notice that this is Labor Day weekend, and that the Sprint Cup race held this weekend won't be at Darlington Raceway. This is getting more and more frustrating every year. The Southern 500 is a NASCAR tradition. They pissed it away and refuse to bring it back. Giving the Labor Day date to California was an absolute abortion. But they didn't really fix things by bringing it to Atlanta. BRING BACK THE REAL LABOR DAY WEEKEND SOUTHERN 500 TO DARLINGTON WHERE IT BELONGS!!!!! Oh, and Bobby Labonte will drive the #71 car. He just keeps finding his way further and further down the totem pole. At this rate, by this time next year, he'll be going to the race track every week just to clean toilets. Richard Childress, hire him for 2010 RIGHT NOW!!!!! 61. Anonymous posted: 09.05.2009 - 11:09 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Earnhardt has been back for a while, since Indianapolis really. Just didn't have the luck on his side to finish out the races. 62. Kit posted: 09.06.2009 - 9:47 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Then he isn't back. 63. David posted: 09.13.2009 - 4:29 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Exactly. When he starts actually FINISHING in the top-5 and top-10 every week, then the "he's back!" will be true. 64. 18fan posted: 08.17.2010 - 11:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Best thing about this race was Mark Martin's radio during the red flag: "Why do they always have to wreck?" Its so true that once one caution flag comes out late in a race, everyone all of a sudden goes crazy and tears up more cars than necessary. 65. Daniel posted: 05.22.2012 - 10:52 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) In using fastest 43: #36 Mike Skinner Out using fastest 43: #19 Elliott Sadler 66. CBASS posted: 02.04.2013 - 7:15 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsor updates #07 Jack Daniel's Toast to the Troops #42 Target/ Polaroid #98 PEAK Antifreeze/ Menards #12 Penske #18 M&M's/ RealChocolate.com #47 Clorox http://archives.ciastockphoto.com/cgi/images.php?group=w0927 67. LASTCAR posted: 04.24.2013 - 12:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Dave Blaney picked up the 11th last-place finish of his career in Saturday night's Sharpie 500 at the Bristol Motor Speedway when his unsponsored #66 Prism Motorsports Toyota fell out with crash damage after completing 8 of the race's 500 laps. Coming into Saturday's race, Blaney and team appeared to have one of the fastest cars in the field. Blaney was 8th fastest in Friday's first practice session, 16th fastest in Happy Hour, and qualified an impressive 4th at a speed of 123.970 mph. However, trouble found him early in Saturday's race. While running 5th on lap 3, his Toyota pushed in turns one and two, then was bumped by Joey Logano on the backstretch, bouncing his car hard off the outside wall. Blaney stuggled to hold on, having also suffered damage to his left-front fender, then came to pit road just before Logano crashed to bring out the first caution on lap 11. By then, Blaney was behind the wall and out of the race. By scoring his sixth last-place finish of 2009, Blaney has now tied the all-time record for most last-place finishes by a driver in a single NASCAR Sprint Cup Season, set by Derrike Cope in 2006. Blaney has also finished last in both Bristol races this season: he spun from 2nd early in the Food City 500 and parked it soon after. Two other drivers have accomplished this feat: Richard D. Brown finished last in both Bristol races in 1972 and Ronnie Thomas did the same in 1987. 2009 RANKINGS 1st) Dave Blaney (6) 2nd) Mike Bliss, Patrick Carpentier, David Gilliland, Joe Nemechek, Tony Raines (2) 3rd) Tony Ave, Todd Bodine, P.J. Jones, Matt Kenseth, Bobby Labonte, Joey Logano, Mark Martin, Mike Wallace (1) Visit http://brockbeard.blogspot.com/ for more. 68. Nascar Lead Lap Points posted: 04.24.2014 - 11:36 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Withdrew 51 Dexter Bean Dodge LiveWire David Bean 69. RaceFanX posted: 10.01.2015 - 1:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Marcos Ambrose's third here would prove to be his best in Cup competition on an oval. 70. RaceFanX posted: 07.08.2018 - 7:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Reigning NASCAR Cup champion Jimmie Johnson went to the White House to visit with President Barack Obama during the week leading up this race. His #48 Lowe's Chevrolet was parked in front of the building with Barack and Jimmie coming out to look over the car as part of the visit. Upon seeing the NASCAR stocker the President noted "that is a spiffy looking car." Johnson talked to the Commander in Chief about all of the safety upgrades NASCAR had made then talked him through what everything on the car's dashboard did. Obama then had Johnson start the car up briefly. 71. LJTolitoYT posted: 03.21.2019 - 2:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Race to Remember: Sharpie 500 Bristol 20009 Mark Martin won the pole with a time of 15.414 second lap time. Kyle Busch Won the race. Strange Things about the race: Scott Speed started 3rd Dave Blaney started 4th Reed Sorenson started 10th David Stremme started 34th Tony Raines started 35th Sam Hornish Jr started 38th John Andretti started 40th Joe Nemecheck Started in 43 (Last Place) 16 Chevrolets 12 Toyotas 8 Dodges 7 Fords, were in the race DNQ's Mike Skinner, Max Papis, Mike Wallace, and Aric Almirola I looked at the Entry List and this is what I found: 32 Drivers in this race, Including the DNQ's have either retired or a bust 15 Drivers in this race, Including the DNQ's are still racing, this is surprising because of all the talent that was in this race, You had Bobby and Terry behind each other, and Kyle and Kurt behind one another in the race at the start of the flag, You don't see that nowadays. This race should never be forgotten. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Post a comment:* Your comment may not appear immediately - all comments must be approved by the moderator. Name: Comment: