|| *Comments on the 2010 Air Guard 400:* View the most recent comment <#126> | Post a comment <#post> 1. sausage posted: 09.12.2010 - 12:00 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) worst race ever 2. sausage posted: 09.12.2010 - 12:05 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) really nascar should have thrown a caution. 3. RaceFanX posted: 09.12.2010 - 12:06 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Denny Hamlin locks up the top spot in the Chase with a victory DTM racer Mattias Ekstrom makes his first-ever oval start on any level in the highest series for it in the world. The Swede didn't do half bad for a rookie. 4. hyperacti posted: 09.12.2010 - 12:07 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I don't remember ever falling into a deeper sleep during a race. I don't even remember getting drowsy, I just woke up afterwards thinking "Wth I slept?". I just went straight out I guess. 5. JP88 posted: 09.12.2010 - 12:16 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) pretty boring race...if this is any indication of how the chase will be, im just gonna watch Talladega. Dale Jr's run was pathetic...something needs to change over there and I am a big Jr. fan...I think the driver needs to be changed, because Jr. doesn't have the right mindset anymore. Good 4th for Logano and an awesome top-5 for the Tasmanian Devil. Very superb run by Dinger and the #43 team as well to finish 8th. Keselowski grabbed another top-15 (can't seem to break through) and Casey Mears finished an impressive 21st for a S&P team. Everyone is hyping the chase, saying it's wide open, trying to make it look good but in all honesty I see only 3 contenders...the 48, 18, and 11. Everyone else after that is too inconsistent, look at Biffle's horrible run tonight. It will take all 3 of the favorites to have issues to allow guys like Harvick, Kurt, or Smoke to pick up a championship. 6. Mike posted: 09.12.2010 - 12:16 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) You gotta love everyone under estimating the #48 for the 5th consecutive year. Don't be surprised if Jimmie locks up the title before Homestead. 7. Bronco posted: 09.12.2010 - 12:29 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Good to see Carl finally run up front for a long period of time, at one of his least successful tracks to boot. After the last two races, people can now quit joking about him having led less than start and parkers and part timers. This is the first time he has more than pole in a season since 2005. Denny Hamlin has led in all but one of his Richmond starts and averages 115 laps led per race. Wow. Were it not for some bad luck, we would be talking about his 3rd or 4th RIR win by now. This is the first time he has "led" the points as well. Dave Blaney runs the distance in two consecutive races now, first time it has happened since the final two races of 2008. The fact that he finished one spot behind Kahne and ahead of Biffle and Earnhardt Jr is embarassing. Terry Labonte buys a ride from Phil Start and Parksons after his brother knocked him out with the PCP. Casey Mears is restoring a bit of respectability to the #13 team, his 21st place finish is better than any of Max's oval finishes. 8. GTHO_PhaseIII posted: 09.12.2010 - 12:29 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Good to see a race naturally run it's course. Despite comments from previous posters, I actually quite enjoyed this one. Massive congrats to Marcos Ambrose. 9. RLewis9 posted: 09.12.2010 - 12:46 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I was bored out of my mind in this race. This is supposed to be a big race, but there was no drama at all. 10. 18fan posted: 09.12.2010 - 1:01 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Busch's 10th top five in 12 Richmond starts. Its his fourth second place finish at Richmond and his second after starting 30th or worse(started 34th, finished 2nd spring '07). 11. I Seize the Day posted: 09.12.2010 - 1:12 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) how was this race boring? because there were no cautions? busch made it exciting it there at the end keeping denny honest. also, i thought bowyer and hamlin had a nice battle midway there. But thats just me, I enjoy watching cars go around in circles. 12. Neal posted: 09.12.2010 - 1:37 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Good god what a boring and terribly anticlimactic race. 13. RaceFanX posted: 09.12.2010 - 1:47 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm glad NASCAR skipped the phantom cautions and other BS and just let this one play out as a good, naturally quick race with some passing and a lot interesting chasing. Without screwing with the race in any way this was closer, more legit and more much exciting than a race in almost any other form of big league motorsports this year. This is unlike say F1 where they are looking at re-legalizing race-rigging team orders. Bobby Labonte had a pit road fire knock him out, problem caused by something electrical going wrong during a pit stop. 14. suomynonA posted: 09.12.2010 - 1:55 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I love how a decent race with some good battles for the lead the whole way through and few cautions stopping the race is treated as ZOMG TEH WORST RACE EVAR!!!!1! It was not SHUT UP. 15. Anonymous posted: 09.12.2010 - 2:11 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Agree with the last 2 posts. 16. Anonymous posted: 09.12.2010 - 2:16 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Cassill finished a race for the first time and ahead of Jr no less. And to think he's a developmental driver for Hendrick, probably to take Jr's slot if he doesn't get his act together. 17. Smiff_99 posted: 09.12.2010 - 2:21 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) This race was old-school. Period. Forget that the race didn't live up to the ESPN/NASCAR fueled hype. Just enjoy the fact that this is how races USED to go down 30, 20, and even 10 years ago. 18. CFob posted: 09.12.2010 - 2:23 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kind of a disappointing top three for me personally. Great run by AJ Allmendinger. Brad had a halfway decent run going, and actually stayed on the lead lap until the very end. I guess at this point that's the best we can hope for on the Cup side. 19. DetroitRocks posted: 09.12.2010 - 2:42 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I suspect that if you were bored by this race, you probably didn't start watching more than 10 years ago. And really, if you can't appreciate a good race with strategy and longer green flag runs, maybe NASCAR, and auto racing in general, just isn't for you. Try the demolition derby. 20. BigBillIV posted: 09.12.2010 - 2:51 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Busch shows a surprising amount of restraint while racing Denny Hamlin for the win, and is respectable and mature in his post race interview. I'm sure the credit goes to Joe Gibbs. If he can temper Busch a little bit more off the track, and keep that fire burning on the track, that guy is going to be very dangerous for the next decade. Some might not want to hear it, but Busch is starting to turn bad qualifying positions, pit stop problems, and bad luck on the track into top 5's and top 10's. Just look at Indy, Watkins Glen, Atlanta, and this race at Richmond. Even Michigan he overcame some problems, had a good run going, but smacked the wall near the end. Still don't think he has anything for Hamlin, Johnson, Harvick, or Stewart during the Chase, but I could see him winning a race or two and a top 5 points finish. Another prediction, Hamlin finishes the year with 8 or more wins. He's just having one of those years. 21. Neal posted: 09.12.2010 - 2:58 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I love how a decent race with some good battles for the lead the whole way through and few cautions stopping the race is treated as ZOMG TEH WORST RACE EVAR!!!!1! It was not SHUT UP." Apparently you missed the last 1/3 of the race - you know, where Hamlin led 157 of the last 160 laps. Battles for the lead the whole way through? Not so much. 22. AHDIW posted: 09.12.2010 - 2:58 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Busch has completed every lap in every race he has been in at Richmond. 2 wins, 4 runner-ups, 624 laps led, average finish of 5.2 Pretty impressive that he's yet to lose a lap there, considering it's a short track. Also impressive, Gibbs cars finish 1st, 2nd, and 4th. Go Denny Hamlin, beat that 48 in the Chase! 23. CascarCanadian posted: 09.12.2010 - 3:20 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Mattias Ekstrom out-finishes, and let's be honest, out-drives Dale Earnhardt Jr. Earnhardt was right when he said it was one of the worst races he's ever run. I don't know if anyone can confirm this, but is this the first time that two foreign born drivers have finished in the top 10 in two consecutive non-road course races? Last week, JPM was 9th, Ambrose 10th. This week, Ambrose 5th, JPM 7th. And did Ambrose make a terrible mistake by leaving JTG Daugherty? It's not like RPM is a powerhouse of speed. Jimmie Johnson starting to hit his stride again. Fudge! Hopefully Kurt Busch spins him out next week. My god, please anybody, Denny, Kyle, Kevin, Tony, Kurt, Carl, Jeff & Jeff, somebody beat that 48 for the title. This sham of a "5 in a row" run he's had needs to end. Burn the chase, turn NASCAR back into real racing again. 24. Bronco posted: 09.12.2010 - 3:24 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) If Jimmie doesn't win the championship this year, who is the front-running fanboy DaleSrFanForever going to root for? I don't know how someone can like both Dale Earnhardt and Jimmie Johnson without being a front-runner fan. Bet he was all over Jeff Gordon's balls 10 years ago too. It's hilarious that someone so young, who has seen so little of NASCAR history, can act like they know so much about racing. But then again, look at your average NASCAR fan, and your average Dale Earnhardt fan. Not the most educated, rational, or brightest bunch of folks you've ever seen. 25. nascar8899 posted: 09.12.2010 - 3:49 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Apparently you missed the last 1/3 of the race - you know, where Hamlin led 157 of the last 160 laps. Battles for the lead the whole way through? Not so much." Yeah, god forbid a driver fends off challenges from multiple drivers and earns a legitimate win. No way a race can be good unless there is a late caution, multiple G-W-C's, and the lead changes hands a dozen times. Forget the first 375 laps, those are meaningless to real NASCAR fans. It's all about the WWE brawl at the end, or the race sucks. 26. Anonymous posted: 09.12.2010 - 4:35 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle threatened him until about 10 to go. Most importantly, the race wasn't a big fake like almost every other in recent years. We've all been spoiled by the competition cautions, but I think we'd all like to see them go away. 27. John Royal posted: 09.12.2010 - 6:06 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I hate commentary, I watched this sounds turned off. Much more entertaining. 28. ii posted: 09.12.2010 - 7:23 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Agree with posts 13-15 and 17. 29. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 09.12.2010 - 7:38 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Amazing, I think Marcos Ambrose got a top 5 without being mentioned on ABC! 30. blaneyfan66 posted: 09.12.2010 - 8:24 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) If anyone thinks that the race was "boring", you shouldn't have even started. Just beause there weren't any cautions doesn't mean it was boring. You're nowhere near a true nascar fan if you thought it was boring. Great racing between teammates, good side-by-side action between others, and just because everybody raced clean and didn't wreck doesn't mean that it was a boring race. It was kinda cool watching Mattias Ekstrom, too. He stayed out of trouble, and I think he could find a ride in nascar if he can get some more practice. 31. Cooper posted: 09.12.2010 - 9:45 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) You know what I liked about this race... You finished where you deserved to finish. If you go through the entire field almost everyone got the finish that they deserved. This race challenged the crew chiefs because their were no chances to make major adjustments as their was not a lot of yellows, so it came down to driving ability. This race showed me a lot in terms of driver talent and who really is a good driver. Richmond is considered a drivers racetrack and a lot of drivers earned their paycheck last night. Thumbs Up To: Hamlin Ky. Busch (Yea I admit, he is a good driver) Johnson Logano Ambrose Allmendinger Mears (I personally think this performance makes Casey a Top 15 driver in the Cup Series...He had a decent run at Atlanta as well) Thumbs Down To: Gordon (??? No cautions for Jeff to rely on, dug himself a deep hole) Ku. Busch (Got flat out beat by his teammate) Kahne (I think he needs more than Hendrick to be a contender) Biffle Earnhardt (shakes head) 32. DaleSrFanForever posted: 09.12.2010 - 9:46 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I loved this race. It was nice to see NASCAR finally let a race play itself out naturally with no phantom cautions. It was old school, and I like it. The two best cars got to fight it out in the end, and everyone else got to scramble for the finish they deserved. The really bad cars finished 3, 4, or even 5 laps down like they deserve, and the mediocre cars finished in mediocre positions. This is a sport, and this is what a sport is supposed to look like. I can't stand the two drivers that finished 1-2, and I'm still excited about how this race went down. "You gotta love everyone under estimating the #48 for the 5th consecutive year. Don't be surprised if Jimmie locks up the title before Homestead." Damn you Montoya! You are right, I think he'll wrap it up a race early. Were it not for the heroics of Sam Hornish at Texas last year, he would have wrapped it up at Phoenix. He was the only car in the same zip code as the Gibbs cars in this race, and that says a lot. JGR has won the last 4 races here, and it would have been the last 6 were it not for Denny's cut tire in the Sprin of '08, and June showing a set of balls for once in the Fall of '08 and dumping Kyle for dumping him earlier in the year. If you guys think this race was devoid of "drama" wait until you see the cha$e. 33. jr88fan posted: 09.12.2010 - 9:53 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) the last 100 laps were so boring that i fell asleep without knowing it 34. Bronco posted: 09.12.2010 - 10:04 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I've got an imposter at post 24, although I do agree with him somewhat. BK finally gets a top 15, his first since Darlington in May, although he still couldn't hang on to the lead lap. If he does not score a top ten by the conclusion of the California race next month, then he would have matched his predecessor's mark of 33 consecutive races without a top ten, which should vindicate Stremme a little bit. "Kahne (I think he needs more than Hendrick to be a contender)" Agreed, signing a contract for a more powerful team rarely guarantees success, rather it usually works the opposite way. I don't think he will be a championship threat or anything. Prediction #1 Jamie Mac gets the best of the rest award by finishing 13th this year, with another win. Prediction #2 - The #29 team finishes outside the top 5 in the standings. 35. DaleSrFanForever posted: 09.12.2010 - 10:13 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I don't know how someone can like both Dale Earnhardt and Jimmie Johnson without being a front-runner fan." What's the matter Bronco? Have I been ignoring you lately, even agreeing with you from time to time? Just can't stand it can you? I know that is just a troll post meant to get a reaction out of me, but I'm gonna respond to it anyways. I am NOT a JJ fan. I am SICK and TIRED of watching him dominate while the rest of his "competitors" chase their own ass. I'm just telling it like it is. He is currently the best driver out there (yes, better than Stewart and Gordon since '02), and we are witnessing greatness with him. Nobody said greatness had to be exciting. How many times have I mentioned how boring I think he is? How much I hate the emotionless persona he puts forth to the public? I stick up for him because I don't think he gets the credit he deserves. Is he currently going against what is, hands down, the most feeble minded competition in the history of NASCAR? Absolutely! And yes, that has allowed him to pad his win and championship total. But that isn't his fault his competitors are a bunch of mentally weak p***ies. A few weeks ago, everyone was over the moon because Kyle Busch won all three events at Bristol. It was supposedly "greatness". I was just telling it like it is when I say you can't call anything Kyle does "greatness" when JJ keeps handing him his own ass in the Series that truly matters: Cup. Do I want to see him win it again this year? No. But then again, this sport is in an identity crisis. It is trying to go Hollywood and script all of its endings. But it is also a sport, and I want the best to be the best, no matter how boring it is (and make no mistake about it, JJ is really damn boring). And honestly, who else could I root for that is in the cha$e. My first choice is Jeff Burton becaue I respect him and everything he has done for the sport, but he doesn't have a prayer. I like Kenseth and Biffle, but neither of them have anywhere close to the speed OR consistency to make a run at the title. Ditto for Bowyer, Gordon, Edwards, and Kurt Busch. Now let's look at the actual contenders: We have the Gibbs duo of Denny and Kyle. Either of them winning the championship would be horrible for NASCAR as a sport. They are both immature ego-maniacs who blast their hard working team when things go wrong. Either of them winning would make the sport seem very amateurish. Then there is Harvick. One year ago he was actively trying to get out of RCR because they were having a bad year. He was cussing RC out on the radio, and showing an attitude befitting of a JGR driver. Now he is leading the points (until the reset) and everything is all happy. Ugh! I want my champion to be classy in good times and bad. Now who are the drivers I pull for? First of all, Brad Keselowski. How you can cal me a front runner when I actively cheer for him is beyond me. His Cup season has been an absolute pile of donkey shit. ZERO Top 10s (as you have pointed out so dutifully many times). This race was their best race since May. They were mediocre all night, spending the whole race anywhere from 14th to 18th. They didn't have to rely on a bunch of late race attrition to finish there either like they usually do. When this is your best race in a while after 26 races, that is bad. But I pull for him because I like him. 36. DaleSrFanForever posted: 09.12.2010 - 10:14 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I knew that was a troll post, as I pointed out. 37. DaleSrFanForever posted: 09.12.2010 - 10:17 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Damn, hit the publish button on accident. Anyways, I knew it was a troll post, but I felt the need to say those things to get them off my chest. If anyone thinks I am a front runner, they are way off base. And to say I am new to this sport, I went to my first Cup race at North Wilkesboro in April of 1990. TWENTY YEARS AGO!! 38. Eric posted: 09.12.2010 - 10:20 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) The person that claimed this is the worst race ever didn't follow Nascar for a while. This isn't the worst Nascar race at all and I have been Following Nascar since 1993. The 2010 Air Guard 400 was a good race and that was good racing here despite not having a lot of cautions. There was passing for the lead on track and good action around. If a person wants to see wrecks only, go to a demolition derby. I think DaleSrFanForever would agree with me that the 2000 Daytona speedweeks as a whole and the 2000 Dura Lube 300 are worse cup races than this one. The 2000 Daytona speedweeks was when 2 memorable quotes happened including Larry McReynolds saying "They're thinking about building more seats here. They oughta build cots 'cause this stuff is going to put everyone to sleep!". The other quote that from that Speedweeks was the late Dale Earnhardt Sr. saying after the Twin 125s was "Big Bill would have rolled over in his grave if he had seen that race". The 2000 Dura Lube 300 is the race that Restrictor plates were used at New Hampshire International Speedway and the only pass of the lead happened before the first lap was completed. 39. Timmy Quivy posted: 09.12.2010 - 10:22 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ekstrom was very impressive in my opinion. To literally have just four hours of seat time (testing at GMP, which is a very, very, different track) on an oval entering the weekend, not to put a single donut on your car, complete 99% of the laps, and legitimately finish ahead of a Roush guy and a Hendrick guy is something worth writing home about. They said he might run more oval races depending on how tonight went so he'd better be back. I'd love to see him at someplace like Kansas or Lowe's where Red Bull might stand a chance. 40. Sheamus posted: 09.12.2010 - 10:26 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Just curious to those that think it was a boring race...what defines a good race for you fellas? 41. DaleSrFanForever posted: 09.12.2010 - 10:38 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I agree @ post 38. 2000 Speedweeks were pure crap. And yeah, Big E's rant after the qualifiers was priceless. To all these kids nowadays trying to get attention with their words, they need to STFD. 42. Eric posted: 09.12.2010 - 11:32 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) The people that complain about the lack of cautions with this race, cautions have been down this year. According to my Excel spreadsheet, there has been 185 caution in 26 races this year compare to 224 cautions after 26 races in 2009. The big decrease of cautions is cautioned by 3 factors. The Factors are Micheal Waltrip doesn't race full time anymore, weather doesn't play much a factor this year and Nascar isn't as caution happy in having caution flags as years past. It was a good race. It reminds of what cup racing used to be when I first started watching Nascar in 1993. Ekstrom did a good job despite being 4 laps down considering that it was his first oval start ever in Nascar at least. Good run by Ambrose. Logano got his first top 5 since Martinsville. Hendrick was off outside of Jimmie Johnson for this race. Here are my thoughts on the drivers in the chase: Denny Hamlin - Team was inconsistent all year and wouldn't win the chase. Jimmie Johnson - Should win the chase. I don't think his inconsistency this season will continue in the chase. The only thing with him is Hendrick Motorsports has problems with set up at some tracks at times this year as a whole, and his pit crew outside of wrecks. Kevin Harvick - team is starting to fade after the Michigan win and I don't see him win the chase as a result. The only way kevin wins the chase is if Jimmie falters. Kyle Busch - 18 team is slightly better than the 11 team. Team can't win the chase until the whole team becomes more consistent. Kurt Busch - needs Harvick, Stewart, and Johnson to falter to win the chase. Kurt only has 1 top 5 since Loudon. He also has been streaky at times this year. Greg Biffle - team not a contender for winning the chase. Roush had been behind a good part of the year. The big problem is having only 5 top 5's in the first 26 races despite the improvements that Roush made. Carl Edwards is more of a chase threat than Biffle. Tony Stewart - team has been hot for the most part since first Pocono race. Richmond was the team's worst race in a while without being in a wreck. The question mark is can the team continue this hot streak. Jeff Burton - can't win the chase. Jeff Burton has problems sealing the deal this year like Jeff Gordon. Matt Kenseth - team was better at the early part of the year. The 17 team doesn't have a shot to win the chase. Team hasn't produced back to back top 5's since Atlanta and Bristol. They only have 2 top 5's since than. Jeff Gordon - Can't win the chase. If he doesn't with out a win, Nascar will change the points system. Jeff has a crew chief that prevents him from winning races. The other issue is the team has been off on the same races as other Hendrick teams are. Hendrick had races this years that not a single Hendrick team gets a top 10. Carl Edwards - he has been getting hot lately. Winning the chase isn't in the cards though. I seen teams going into the chase with a hot streak and than cool off. Carl needs to have a good plate race and needs to win races. Clint Bowyer - if he wins the chase, Nascar will change the points system for the chase. He is the most conservative RCR driver out of the 3 RCR drivers to me. Clint settles for top 10's only for the most part. The only way he wins the chase is if other drivers have more than 1 bad race and Clint gets top 10's for rest the season. 43. rw posted: 09.12.2010 - 12:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I caught on my sleep in this race. Seriously, what's wrong with Jr... :( 44. Android posted: 09.12.2010 - 12:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #35 - lolumad? I don't know if you've been watching these races, but Shrub has been much more mature in Cup this year. He has consistently made bad days into good days, and is much more calm and professional on the radio as well. Last night was another fine performance out of him. Coming from 32nd to 2nd, and running down Denny with an inferior car. That being said, I still think the 48 and 11 are the cars to beat in the chase. I think Kyle will be hurt by Dave Rogers' inexperience in pressure situations. 45. Anonymous posted: 09.12.2010 - 1:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) this was a great race. and why you might ask. well when i started watching racing in the mid 90s, I would fall asleep on the majority of them. I fell asleep before this race even started. thus, this race was great because the mid 90s were great. 46. dUDE gUY posted: 09.12.2010 - 1:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I didn't watch most of the first half of this race because I was lost playing NHL 2003 and kept forgetting to switch back to the race, but most of what I saw was pretty damned decent racing. Thankfully there was not a lot of drama or entertainment cautions last night, because there was too much actual racing going on. The battle with Kyle Busch and Denny Hamlin at the end was pretty exciting, and lasted for around 20 laps before Kyle faded with about 10 to go. I gotta give props to Casey Mears on a good qualifying run and running pretty decently entire race race, finishing 21st in what is normally back-of-the-pack equipment. A.J. Allmendinger had a great race as well, starting 3rd, finishing 8th and rarely running outside of the top 10 the whole night. Clint Bowyer had a top 3 car most of the night until the last 100 laps or so, but still had a good enough car to finish 6th. Montoya ran well all night too and finished 7th, making this 5 top tens in a row for Montoya, his longest top-10 streak in his Sprint Cup career so far. And a great run for Ambrose as well, running top 10-15 all night before just barely sneaking into the top five at the checkers. All in all a great race, and I wish I had watched the first half more closely, because great races like this don't seem to be aren't around that much anymore. 47. the_man posted: 09.12.2010 - 1:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) David Ragan on a 23rd place finish: â??We just didnâ??t unload great and we were behind from the get-go. Overall, we didnâ??t make any mistakes. The pit crew did a good job and the car did what it was supposed to do, we just werenâ??t fast enough tonight.â? 48. martin-n-rusty posted: 09.12.2010 - 1:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Seeing some of the posts, this is why NASCAR is in a world of hurt. They throw "cautions", and people complain. They don't throw "cautions", people complain. If there is one reason why I want to go back to the "good ole days", this is it. Back when people actually appreciated the sport, rather than bitch about what NASCAR did or didn't do weekly. 49. Anonymous posted: 09.12.2010 - 2:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Is it me or is Dale Jr's career becoming more like Kyle Petty's? Yes, Junior has won more races than Kyle but for a few years, Kyle was a race winning driver just as Junior was. Now it is almost like Junior is just out there making laps as it seemed that Kyle Petty did for the last six or seven years of his career. Unless Junior's mindset changes and he rekindles that fire he used to have, I don't see him winning anywhere outside of a restrictor plate race. 50. petty43 posted: 09.12.2010 - 2:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Actually DSFF this era of driver futility reminds me of 1956 to 1959 when buck baker and lee petty won four titles because the rest of the great drivers were gone,(flocks herb thomas dick rathman and mostly curtis turner and fireball, who only ran select events) lee petty and buck feasted during these years and as a result their viewed with a little too much respect, i think junior, the flocks, herb, and fireball were all better drivers at that time but various circumstances allowed this 4 year period to be dominated by buck and lee. 51. Mike posted: 09.12.2010 - 2:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Seeing some of the posts, this is why NASCAR is in a world of hurt. They throw "cautions", and people complain. They don't throw "cautions", people complain." Exactly. People just love to bitch and moan about everything these days. 52. Anonymous posted: 09.12.2010 - 2:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @46 tl;dr 53. martin-n-rusty posted: 09.12.2010 - 3:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Post 49. I agree with that statement. Unless Jr. goes to a shrink, fixes his mindset, and relights the fire that was in him, he will be nothing more than the Kyle Petty of our generation. A driver with talent, and the name of a legend, but let all the mental stuff get into his head. 54. Smokefan05 posted: 09.12.2010 - 3:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 3 caution and people complain. *shakes head* I even missed this race but 3 cautions isn't the end of the world, NASCAR has us "fans" trained. ""Seeing some of the posts, this is why NASCAR is in a world of hurt. They throw "cautions", and people complain. They don't throw "cautions", people complain." Exactly. People just love to bitch and moan about everything these days." Agree 1000% Oh and for those who didn't know, Robby Gordon will not be back in Cup for the rest of the year. :( He'll be back next year tho, running a VERY limited amount of races. Other than that little tid bit, nothing else really much to say. 55. I Love Japan posted: 09.12.2010 - 3:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I have been watching nascar since 2000. Haven't been passionately into it since 2006 though. But I think this race wasn't terrible. You guys didn't bring up the worst race: The 2008 Brickyard 400. Now THAT was terrible. Anything since 2003 has been subpar honestly. Call me a 2000 freak, but that was when it was good my first couple years. It's gottten bad ever since the Chase began. Screw the Chase. I want real racing- 36 races, 0ne champion. Had a bad start? Tough luck. Race next year. I like good old fashioned NASCAR not corporate stuff. And ESPN is HORRIBLE. Gosh, I like DW more than them. 56. Anonymous posted: 09.12.2010 - 3:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 55 I think for most people, when they first start watching that period becomes THEIR good 'old' days theme. Then everything is just compared to that. So new fans will think the races are just good/fine and if they don't like them, they won't watch. But they won't have any history of the sport and might overestimate or underestimate how good a race is. 57. RCRandPenskeGuy posted: 09.12.2010 - 4:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bad race? You guys must be kidding. Just because there's not a huge amount of crashes, it doesn't always equate to a boring race. And this is a race where Denny Hamlin and Kyle Busch finished 1-2, and I dislike both of them! And our 3rd place finisher, JJ is as boring as a rock. Brad Keselowski finally gets his first top-15 since Darlington in May. At this pace, he will be lucky to even score one top-10 for the season. He proved last year he can run well in Cup, so it's not a lack of skill. I agree with everything that was said in post #55. The points system was doing just fine before the stupid Chase came along. 58. 18fan posted: 09.12.2010 - 4:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I didn't become a fan until 2005, but I have spent many hours researching the history of the sport and have 100+ tapes from the 1990s. Even the boring races in the 90s were better than most races now. I appreciate the old races that I have more every day and I am thankful that I have all of the races to watch whenever I want to. 59. Smokefan05 posted: 09.12.2010 - 4:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I've been a fan since 1993 and the only races bored me to death where the 2000 Datyona race and the 2008 Brickyard race. 2007 Tally race well would be on that list but finish made up for it. "The points system was doing just fine before the stupid Chase came along." The system we have now and the old have flaws but i'd take the Chase over the old any day of the week. 60. DaleSrFanForever posted: 09.12.2010 - 4:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I don't know if you've been watching these races, but Shrub has been much more mature in Cup this year. He has consistently made bad days into good days, and is much more calm and professional on the radio as well. Last night was another fine performance out of him. Coming from 32nd to 2nd, and running down Denny with an inferior car. That being said, I still think the 48 and 11 are the cars to beat in the chase. I think Kyle will be hurt by Dave Rogers' inexperience in pressure situations. " True, but I'm just tired of listening to people call Kyle Busch a great driver, because he isn't. Jimmie Johnson has more than 50 wins, and Kryle only has 19. And don't bring up that he's only 25, because I don't want to hear it. With his equipment and supposed talent, he should have a minimum of 30 wins and at least 1 championship by this point in his career. Obviously, he's never going to improve, and he will continually under-perform for his entire career. 61. DaleSrFanForever posted: 09.12.2010 - 5:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Kyle Busch has completed every lap in every race he has been in at Richmond. 2 wins, 4 runner-ups, 624 laps led, average finish of 5.2" None of that matters, because Kryle Busch is a Kry Baby. See what I did there? I'm so clever. Anyway, those aren't impressive stats. Jimmie Johnson has 1 more win there, and who cares about completing every lap? It's easy to have a bad race and lose a lot of laps at Richmond. Kyle Busch just has the best cars for that track, so really you'd think he'd have at least 8 wins there if he's as great as everyone says. If anything he's under-performing there. Jimmie Johnson has the best team, and more wins than any other driver over the past 9 seasons. Jimmie Johnson puts the rest of the field to shame, so how can you not like him? He has the best cars, crew chief, and pit crew in NASCAR, and he performs well in it. He's an easy pick for the championship, and since I don't care about anything but winning, I'm going to ride this bandwagon until it derails. Which probably won't be for a long time, since he's so great. 62. DaleSrFanForever posted: 09.12.2010 - 5:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) You can't compare June to Kyle Petty. Kyle never had the equipment June has had for his career. And plus, his career decline was at least due to him being wrapped up in humanitarian causes like his charity rides, helping Adam get his career started, then helping preserve Adam's memory and going forward with Adam's dream of a camp for ill children. June's has gone off track so he can get drunk at bars with his buddies. Obviously June has done a lot for charity as well, he has granted like 200 Make-A-wishes. But Kyle, that was all he did: help sick children. 63. Watto posted: 09.12.2010 - 5:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Pretty impressive that he's yet to lose a lap there, considering it's a short track." Well, he could've easily lost laps there.. he just hasn't FINISHED a lap down I guess. Still an impressive stat nonetheless. 64. martin-n-rusty posted: 09.12.2010 - 5:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) True on that DaleSrFan, but you also have to figure, after Adam's death, that really took a toll on him mentally. Also, Dale Jr. was able to handle his career mentally early on being the son of the intimidator, unlike Kyle (who at one point, was considering a country music career in the 80's, instead of wanting to run around in race cars). I'll still stand by my statement of Dale Jr. being our generation's Kyle Petty if he keeps it up though, even if the mental aspects might be in two totally different worlds. 65. Sean posted: 09.12.2010 - 5:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I admit it was the first season I regularly watched so I might be biased, but 1997 gets my vote as the last "good" season in Cup. 1998 was the beginning of a number of very, very bad trends, although some of them do go back a few years prior. The 5-and-5 rule of that year essentially killed passing on most tracks. The two-door Ford Taurus completely removed any pretense of these cars being stock (although some purists might pick the '95 Monte Carlo). The 50th Anniversary and especially NASCAR's Night in Hollywood from that year were some of the first events indicating that hype was starting to take over the racing. The first phony red flag (to ensure a green-flag finish) was thrown at the spring Richmond race, and those bothered me even more than debris cautions. Kenny Irwin (who proved to be a sub-Logano bust in my opinion before his death, given the vis-a-vis comparison with the #88) replaced Ernie Irvan basically by sponsor mandate, as Irvan was fired from Yates after his barroom brawl the year before; this is the moment I credit as the beginning of sponsors taking over the show. That year was also approximately the moment where single-car teams and owner-drivers had become completely irrelevant, when there were some last gasps in '96 and '97. While I'll grant that the repeal of the 5-and-5 rule made years like '99, '01, and '02 generally better than '98 (although my personal opinion is 2000 and 2003 were pretty crappy too), 1997 is the last year I'd pick as "glory days". Purists would probably pick 1996 since North Wilkesboro was on the schedule and Texas and California weren't, but I don't think the problem with those two tracks is the tracks themselves, more that today's cars aren't capable of passing each other on those type of tracks. Indeed, California is modeled after Michigan, which used to have tons of great races from the '70s to the early '90s, but now Michigan is boring too; ditto for Texas, which is modeled after Charlotte, which is also now boring. So I think California's problem is that the cars can't race well on those type of tracks (as much hype as Atlanta and Charlotte do get, those tracks have not had very many good races in the past five years. Pretty much all the 1.5-2 milers are boring now, even the ones people like due to their history, leading me to believe it's the cars, not the tracks. Yes, I'll agree North Wilkesboro was better than Texas and California, but those tracks get too much hate and probably would have had classic races in the '80s had they been on the schedule then.) As for this race, it was old school, and I liked it just fine. Pretty generic race by '90s standards, but it was very solid by today's standards. 66. Sean posted: 09.12.2010 - 5:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'd probably take Kyle Petty's historical stats over Junior's now, given SABCO was nowhere near DEI or Hendrick, and Kyle won at tracks like Pocono, Rockingham, and Watkins Glen, where Junior has shown little strength in his career. Also, Kyle faced about ten legends in his prime, while Junior probably faced fewer in his. 67. AHDIW posted: 09.12.2010 - 5:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Well, he could've easily lost laps there.. he just hasn't FINISHED a lap down I guess. Still an impressive stat nonetheless. " Yeah, I could have been clearer. I'm sure he has lost laps, but considering he's always finished on the lead lap, he probably hasn't lost very many over the course of 12 races. His record at Bristol isn't as impressive as far as average finish or laps completed, but he does have 4 wins there. If he can just figure out Martinsville, Busch could become the preeminent short track driver of this generation. Rather than being the next Jeff Gordon, Kyle Busch might be the next Rusty Wallace. A hell of a short track racer, with the ability to also win road courses and speedways, and at least 1 championship at some point in his career. Cue DaleSrFanForever to enlighten us as to why Kyle Busch is no Rusty Wallace, while providing a bunch of stats that prove absolutely nothing since Rusty has finished his career and run 500 more races. Remember, he knows everything about NASCAR, and speculating about the future of a driver based on what they've done at the beginning of their careers isn't allowed. 68. Bronco posted: 09.12.2010 - 6:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "'d probably take Kyle Petty's historical stats over Junior's now, given SABCO was nowhere near DEI or Hendrick, and Kyle won at tracks like Pocono, Rockingham, and Watkins Glen, where Junior has shown little strength in his career." Okay, and Dale Jr has won at Atlanta, Bristol, Phoenix, Michigan, in addition to tons of wins at Daytona and Talladega, places where KP never really came close to winning at. What's your point? "Also, Kyle faced about ten legends in his prime, while Junior probably faced fewer in his." Earnhardt, Wallace, Elliott, Labonte....who else? 69. Sean posted: 09.12.2010 - 6:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) My point is Pocono, Rockingham, and Watkins Glen are among the harder tracks on the circuit to drive, which Atlanta, Michigan, and plate tracks are not. I'll give Junior Bristol (where he has one win and not much since) and Phoenix, but no more. We'll pick Kyle Petty in 1992 (his best season) and Junior in his (2004). I would list all the following drivers as legends from those seasons who competed full-time (I am probably more generous than some people would be): 1992 - Kulwicki, Elliott, Allison, Gant, Martin, Rudd, T. Labonte, D. Waltrip, Irvan, Earnhardt, R. Wallace, G. Bodine, Jarrett, R. Petty (though I'll acknowledge he was totally washed up) - Marlin is debatable 2004 - Kurt Busch, Johnson, J. Gordon, Martin, Stewart, Kenseth, B. Labonte, Jarrett, R. Wallace, Biffle, J. Burton, T. Labonte, Rudd (if I'm listing Petty in '92, I should list Terry and Rudd here) So 14-13. Not that much of a gap. Now let's compare the drivers only on the '92 list to the drivers only on the '04 list. 1992 - Kulwicki, Elliott, Allison, Gant, D. Waltrip, Irvan, Earnhardt, G. Bodine, R. Petty 2004 - Ku. Busch, Johnson, J. Gordon, Stewart, Kenseth, B. Labonte, Biffle, J. Burton '92 list looks stronger to me, even if you discount the then-irrelevant Petty. 70. DaleJrFan19 posted: 09.12.2010 - 6:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This may not be the worst race ever, but it sure as hell was the worst race I've ever seen. I'm shocked that you people are actually defending this race. It's not because there were no wrecks, and it's not because of the lack of competition "debis" cautions, it's because it was flat out BORING! ESPN's coverage was horrible, and the finish was anti-climactic . And it really doesn't help that the top 3 was the most generic top 3 ever. 71. Yams posted: 09.12.2010 - 6:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) "This may not be the worst race ever, but it sure as hell was the worst race I've ever seen. I'm shocked that you people are actually defending this race. It's not because there were no wrecks, and it's not because of the lack of competition "debis" cautions, it's because it was flat out BORING! ESPN's coverage was horrible, and the finish was anti-climactic . And it really doesn't help that the top 3 was the most generic top 3 ever." You're just saying that because your boy Jr drove what was arguably the worst race of his career. And you must be relatively new to racing. The finish was anti-climactic? Only if you don't understand auto racing. It's been said already, but maybe you need to stick to WWE. 72. suomynonA posted: 09.12.2010 - 6:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) There have been MANY races that have bored me. This one wasn't one of them. Even at the end when Denny Hamlin had a comfortable lead (not the first time that's happened or anything, BTW), there was still good action back in the field. Pocono is boring. Fontana is boring. Michigan is boring (not just the track, but the whole damn state. Hell, even the track is a boring, dull grey in colour!) This race was NOT boring. 73. 18fan posted: 09.12.2010 - 7:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bronco, Kyle Petty led until 4 laps to go at the 1993 DieHard 500 before Earnhardt passed him and had probably the strongest car in the 1993 Daytona 500 before his gas man didn't get enough fuel in the car so he got caught back in the pack and got caught up in a wreck, so to say KP never came close to winning at plate tracks is not correct. 74. TLarson83 posted: 09.12.2010 - 7:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I liked this race. They let the boys race and finish where they deserved to finish! Not only that, it wrapped up in a timely fashion so I didn't have to spend my entire Saturday night on the couch! Really clean race, only real "carnage" I saw was when Bobby Labonte's 09 caught fire on pit-road. Thumbs up to Marcos Ambrose, AJ Allmendinger for good runs and finishes. Also, to Casey Mears for a decent finish in a not-so-great car, and to Matt Ekstrom on a respectable oval debut. 75. JJSucks posted: 09.12.2010 - 7:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) To post #68, Michigan Boring??? Maybe the track is, but not the state. I agree with everything on post #68 that the Pocono and Auto Club Tracks are boring as hell. 76. Mike posted: 09.12.2010 - 8:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jr detractors, read Rick Hendrick's interview he did a few days ago. He shut down every argument you have presented. I'm sure you'll continue to believe your own little theories, but at least give it a read then come back on here and call him a liar or whatever you're gonna claim. As for the Kyle Petty comparison, LMAO. Kyle won 8 races in 829 starts, Dale Jr won 18 in less than 320 starts I believe. Even if Dale never wins a race again he'll always be way above Kyle as a driver. 77. Bronco posted: 09.12.2010 - 8:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "My point is Pocono, Rockingham, and Watkins Glen are among the harder tracks on the circuit to drive, which Atlanta, Michigan, and plate tracks are not." Whether a track is hard to drive or not is a subjective matter indeed. Guys like Boris Said, Robby Gordon, Max Papis run like crap at most ovals but put them on a road course and they come to life. That doesn't mean road courses are easy, it's just that's where they are most comfortable with. Likewise Talladega and Daytona are easier for Jr, Harvick, McMurray than they are for Edwards, Newman, Johnson etc. As for 2004, you forgot Newman, Harvick, and Kahne. From a championship aspect it stands 13-8 only because of E's 7 championships which is a big outlier. 78. Smokefan05 posted: 09.12.2010 - 8:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Michigan is boring (not just the track, but the whole damn state. Hell, even the track is a boring, dull grey in colour!)" Yeah, ok. Our state is boring? Have you ever BEEN to Michigan? "1992 - Kulwicki, Elliott, Allison, Gant, D. Waltrip, Irvan, Earnhardt, G. Bodine, R. Petty" As you said Richard was washed up at that time and should have retired sooner. Kulwicki was in his prime (driving for himself no less), Elliot was with a good team (few years later he wasn't the same), Davey had hit or miss seasons before his passing (but a good driver), DW would have been better if he stayied with Rick (unless he was with Rick at that time), Irvan (or swerving Irvan) was a good driver but prone to mistakes) Big E? I don't need to say anything. And G. Bodine was good too. But i think you forgot a guy named Wallace? "Kurt Busch, Johnson, J. Gordon, Martin, Stewart, Kenseth, B. Labonte, Jarrett, R. Wallace, Biffle, J. Burton, T. Labonte, Rudd" Kurt by 04 had already proven to be a Cup winning driver with Roush, the same with Jimmie. Jeffs "winning 10 plus races a year days" where over but a Cup winning threat, Mark wasn't in his late 90's prime but capable of winning races, Tony after his 02 Cup win his head would in the way of proper thinking (until his 05 Cup season), Matt is well Matt, Bobbys Cup (and race winning winning) days were over after 03 *for the most part.* , DJ was past his prime and never really a Cup winning threat (even tho he barely missed both 04 and 05 Chases), Rusty was in the twlight of his carrer, The Biffle was just starting to get the hang of racing in Cup, Jeff Burton was an also-ran at the time, Terry Labonte was past his prime and so was Rudd (except for that one day in Kansas). 79. Jarrett88fan posted: 09.12.2010 - 8:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @ Post 41 2000 Speedweeks was boring if you didn't watch the first Truck race at Daytona or IF you are a Chevrolet or Pontiac fan. I agree the 125's and Bud Shootout were zzzzz fests. The Busch race was okay, but nothing special. The racing in the 500 itself wasn't bad, remember Johnny Benson's near upset with an underfunded team. Now that 2000 Dura-Lube 300 at New Hampshire was terrible, except for Earnhardt battling Jeff Burton to stay on the lead lap was slightly exciting. This Richmond race had an old-school element to it, no phantom debris cautions or fuel/tire strategy. 80. joey2448 posted: 09.12.2010 - 8:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) i'll admit, i too fell asleep from about lap 280 to 350, but i'm glad the race played out like it did. i see five guys with a realistic shot at the title: johnson, hamlin, kyle busch, harvick, and jeff gordon (if he can win a damn race). 81. DaleSrFanForever posted: 09.12.2010 - 9:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Earnhardt, Wallace, Elliott, Labonte....who else?" Legends in or near their prime Kyle faced in his prime ('86-'95): Earnhardt, Waltrip, Elliott, Wallace, Gordon, Richmond, Gant, Texas Terry, Mark, Chad Little (just kidding), Kulwicki, Davey, Rudd, DJ, Bonnett. He also had people like Bodine and Irvan who, although not consistent, could win when their stuff held up or didn't wreck. Kyle started out racing a few races for Petty Enterprises in a 2nd car in 1979. The King won his final championship that year, but he won it on guts and smarts. From an equipment standpoint, he was outclassed by Waltrip and DiGard (who committed an epic choke to lose the title that year), Cale and Junior (too many mechanical issues), Buddy and Harry Ranier (Baker never was consistent enough), Bobby and Bud (Bud's stuff was never reliable), and even Earnhardt and Osterland (Dale, a rookie that year, tore up way too much stuff to contend). That was PE's last stand. Their cars were just good enough for The King to carry to a title. Once Kyle started running more races for PE, they had already began their sharp descent. Hell, by 1984 The King himself left to drive for Mike Curb. Plus he was in the 2nd car, and they were barely scraping by with one team. He moved to the Wood Brothers in '85, but they had also began their steep decline. He got a gift wrapped win at Richmond, then won the World 600 convincingly. The Woods have won 3 races total since Kyle left. He then joined Felix's brand new team in '88 or '89 (I can't remember) and this was the only time he was in remotely competitive equipment thanks to Felix's big spending. But he didn't spend in the right areas. Kyle still won 6 races with them. They only won once after he left with the underrated Joe Nemechek after Kyle left before he sold out to Ganassi. In '97 Kyle started his own team and eventually returned to PE. From a results standpoint only one word can describe this: Disaster. But he did this because his entire focus was getting Adam's career going and making sure Adam had somewhere to race. Plus, by this point, he was completely consumed in charity efforts. It hurt his results, but in this case is that really a bad thing? Of course Adam tragially left us, leaving Kyle to carry on Adam's legacy with the carcass of Petty Enterprises. From '97 to '08 it was all about Adam for one reason or another. This led to a lot of starts and very little success. These are the reasons he has so many starts and 8 wins. Was he an elite talent? No, but he was damn good when racing for himself in semi-decent equipment. June, on the other hand, has evolved into a bum. Pure and simple. 82. DaleSrFanForever posted: 09.12.2010 - 9:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The biggest thing about Kyle is he has always been overshadowed. Hell, even him winning the first race for Felix Sabates in dominating fashion at Rockingham is overshadowed by the fact a guy started that race that would eventually have surgery to become a woman (the immortal JT Hayes). 83. Cooper posted: 09.12.2010 - 10:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Since everyone is reminiscing about the "good ole days"... I need to say that their isn't one stretch of years that are better or worse. Every fan will remember the good ole days when they became interested in NASCAR. To me the good ole days was when Sterling was a Top 3 driver in 01/02. That in my opinion was the good ole days. I consider 2001 and 2002 to be the best racing in the history of nascar. Someone who started watching this year will call this the best racing of all-time in 10 years. Racing is racing, and every race should run it's course. Whether it is a wreckfest, a fuel mileage race, or a race with long green runs it will be much more enjoyable if fans except that their will be races that are "boring" and some will be "exciting". 84. CFob posted: 09.12.2010 - 11:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Whether a track is hard to drive or not is a subjective matter indeed. Guys like Boris Said, Robby Gordon, Max Papis run like crap at most ovals but put them on a road course and they come to life. That doesn't mean road courses are easy, it's just that's where they are most comfortable with. Likewise Talladega and Daytona are easier for Jr, Harvick, McMurray than they are for Edwards, Newman, Johnson etc." I could swear you've mentioned before how anyone can win on a plate track... 85. DaleJrFan19 posted: 09.13.2010 - 12:30 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "You're just saying that because your boy Jr drove what was arguably the worst race of his career. And you must be relatively new to racing. The finish was anti-climactic? Only if you don't understand auto racing. It's been said already, but maybe you need to stick to WWE." 1. I could give two shits about how horrible Jr was running. Hell, I was on teamspeak with my friends joking that he was pulling Kevin Conway laps (he prolly was too) 2. Been a fan since 2003. And if I'm new, are you trying to imply I missed a bunch of other boring races? Well good riddens! Thanks for the compliment ;D 3. A battle for the lead, which ended with the person in turn fading before he could make the move is anticlimactic. 4. WWE sucks, in fact any type of "wrestling" and boxing sucks. 86. Jim posted: 09.13.2010 - 12:37 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I've been watching televised Nascar races since 1981 and I have to say the current racing no matter the track just can't hold my attention. 1984-1996 seemed like great years with Terry Labonte's two championships and Bill Elliott's awesome year in 1985. As far as Jr.'s situation you can sugar coat it all you want but he and Lance McGrew are just not getting along. Jr. gets upset with reporters that ask him if his time is devoted too much with other interests like his Nationwide teams , Whisky River , etc. but maybe he should step back and devote more time to work on his Cup career. Hey, I'm pulling for the guy but but times are tough and sponsors are going to get harder and harder to find. Maybe he's made enough money in his career and he's got a nice little nest egg put away. Must be nice.! 87. Yams posted: 09.13.2010 - 12:54 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) DaleJrFan19 Thanks for proving my point. You don't understand racing. You don't appreciate racing. If the only thing that can make you enjoy a race is a lead change at the end, stick to fake sports and movies. I'm surprised you don't like the WWE, you obviously want a scripted finish. 88. Fun Gus posted: 09.13.2010 - 9:13 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I like you Yams. 89. Walter Sobchak posted: 09.13.2010 - 9:59 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Anybody who complains about Saturday night's race is NOT a fan. Period. For over 60 years, races have played out in every way imaginable. One common occurance back in the day was races with low caution counts. this past weekend there were no phantom debris cautions, tire strategy wins, rain strategy wins, G-W-C, big wrecks, "rivalries" (BS overblown ones).......it was simple, straight-forward, may-the-best-man-win style NASCAR racing. This USED to be the norm. Since '04 or '05? Not so much.... 90. petty43 posted: 09.13.2010 - 10:20 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) people have the right to feel how ever they do about saturday's race. just because someone did not like it does not mean they are not a fan of racing. i found it to be a boring race by richmond standards, thru the years i have seen at least twenty races thee that were better at this place, so i found it to be kind of a forgettable race, not bad, but certainly not memerable either. on a 1 to 10 scale i would give it a 3.5. i will put it this way, if you paid 300 to camp out, get tickets, and food, would you be happy with the return for your investment on these two races? i dont think i would be. 91. Walter Sobchak posted: 09.13.2010 - 10:42 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yeah, I would've been happy. Happy because I saw a natural, non-controversial race play out. I could care less whether the finish was exciting or not. That's not why I'm a fan. If I was a fan because I liked exciting finishes, then I would have spent the majority of the last 20 years disappointed because I only saw a small percentage of races end in a last lap pass or some other form of late-race drama. I go to a race to see an honest, fair, untainted contest. That's what we got in Richmond and THAT'S why there was nothing worng with that race. And anyone who thinks otherwise isn't all that much of a true fan, in my eyes, because they choose to ignore the fact that this is a part of auto racing: Not every race is a barn burner. I'm going to Loudon this coming weekend. If JJ starts on the pole, leads every single lap AND the race goes caution free, I STILL will feel like I got my money's worth.....because as a fan, I'll have bought my tickets and made the trip to see a race. Regardless of the outcome. P.S.-For what it's worth, I am aware that everything is unfairly priced. However, NASCAR shouldn't endlessly screw around with the sport to try and change the quality of competition in order to achieve a fan's "money's worth". The sport has already evolved to the point where, compared to 15 years ago, it's a shadow of it's former self. Any more changes from this point are just going to make it worse. NASCAR needs to take a good, hard look at their (and their cohorts') prices and do something about it. If I were them, I'd much rather work to maintain the health and relevence of the sport rather than the company's bottom line. 92. Walter Sobchak posted: 09.13.2010 - 10:44 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) The fans made them and the fans can bury them. This is something they've yet to fully comprehend. 93. petty43 posted: 09.13.2010 - 10:52 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) actually michiagn and darlington, two tracks which i frequent, have lowered prices, recently and i hope to see more of that, nascar knows that they got too nig for their britches. 94. Walter Sobchak posted: 09.13.2010 - 11:48 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Oh yeah, I've heard that. EVERY track, SMI or ISC, needs to do the same. And something needs to be done about hotel and their all price gouging. 95. I Seize the Day posted: 09.13.2010 - 11:56 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Anyone what tracks offer free camping these days? 96. Gorilla posted: 09.13.2010 - 12:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) most boring race ever 97. Smokefan05 posted: 09.13.2010 - 1:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "The fans made them and the fans can bury them. This is something they've yet to fully comprehend." Well here is something that fans have yet to fully comprehend, they can help build it but they can also help destory it. 98. Walter Sobchak posted: 09.13.2010 - 2:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well, I'm a fan, and I'm aware of that. Unfotunatly, not everybody is. Many folks who call themselves 'fans' find things to complain about every single friggin' week. No matter what happens. But if people don't stop trying to find fault with every little facet of each race, then we're just going to continue on this current downward spiral. Negativity is contagious. If fans and writers keep complaining about everything, then outsiders who may have been inclined to give NASCAR a try will just skip it. Why? Because even the 'fans' don't seem to enjoy it. 99. Talon64 posted: 09.13.2010 - 5:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This was not a boring race. I liked seeing the race go green for so long to see the true handling characteristics of the cars play out; Carl was great on the short runs but terrible on the long runs, Jimmie's car was better on the long runs and Denny's car was just awesome from start to finish. And even with a 159 lap green flag run with green flag pit stops in the middle to end the race, you had a great race for the lead at the end between Denny and Kyle. A battle that played out on it's own, rather than something created by a bullshit NASCAR caution. Anyways, Denny scores his 14th career NASCAR Sprint Cup Series win, tying him with 4 other drivers for 48th all time. That group includes Kevin Harvick and Ryan Newman, but Denny's winning percentage is 7.91% compared to 4.35% for Newman and 4.02% for Harvick. It's the 5th time that Denny has led over 200 laps in a Cup race (3 times at Richmond and twice at Martinsville), and the 13th time he's led 100+ laps. Denny has 3 wins, a runner-up finish and that blown tire at Richmond in 2008 in the races where he's led 200+ laps. Denny's the 3rd JGR driver to have 6 or more wins in a season, joining Tony Stewart who had a series-leading 6 wins in 2000 and Kyle Busch who had 8 wins in 2008. It's JGR's 9th 1-2 finish and their best single race result as a 3 car team, the first time they've ever had all 3 cars finish in the top five. Not that surprising, they've only had 3 decent drivers at the same time since 2008 with Tony, Kyle and Denny and Joey replacing Tony the last two seasons. It's JGR's 86th career Cup win and series leading 9th of 2010. Kyle Busch gets his 14th top ten finish of the year, surpassing his total from all of 2009. He needs one more top ten to reach 100 for his career. Kyle has scored the most points (795, 67 more than Jeff Gordon in 2nd) and led the most laps (508) on the short tracks so far in 2010, with 2 wins and 4 top tens in 5 races. Kyle and Denny have combined to win 8 of the last 10 short track races, taking 4 wins each and outscoring everyone over that span. Jimmie Johnson has the other two wins and is 5th in points scored. Jimmie Johnson has 10 top fives in a season for the 8th consecutive season. Tony Stewart has the best active streak going at 11 straight seasons, he's on 7 top fives on the season so far. It's Jimmie's 5th podium finish in 18 starts at Richmond, but his first in the last 4 races there. Joey Logano equals his top five total from 2009 with his 3rd of the season, and he's the 14th driver to reach 10 top tens this year. But the last full time driver to have 10+ top tens but fail to finish in the top 20 in the standings was Jeremy Mayfield in 2000 who had 12 top tens and finished 24th in the standings, but he missed 2 races due to injury and would've likely finished top 20 otherwise. Kyle Busch had 13 top tens in 2005 and Johnny Benson had 10 in 1998 and they finished 20th in the standings. Marcos Ambrose has back-to-back top tens for the first time in his career, and it's his 3rd top five in 67 oval starts. But Ambrose is pretty good on short tracks, 2 top five and 4 top tens in 11 starts with an average finish of 15.0. Clint Bowyer gets his 3rd straight top ten finish. It's his 5th top ten in 10 starts at Richmond. JPM scores his 40th career top ten finish in 135 starts in Cup. His 5th straight top ten finish is a new career high, and it's his 3rd top ten in the last 4 races at Richmond. AJ Allmendinger scores his 5th top ten of the season, one off his career high of 6 set last season. It's just his 2nd top ten in 21 short track starts. Kevin Harvick gets his series-leading 17th top ten of the season heading into the Chase. It's his 13th top ten in 20 Richmond starts with 11 of them coming in his last 12 starts. Carl Edwards won his 6th career Cup pole and 2nd of the season. Carl led a season-high 95 laps in the race, and combined with the 32 laps he led at Atlanta he's led 21.17 times more laps than he had in the first 24 races of the season. It's his 8th top ten in the last 9 races. 100. Talon64 posted: 09.13.2010 - 5:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Here's the 2010 Chase field's Chase records. A WTF fact first, the driver who's completed the most laps in the Chase races is someone who hasn't made a single one... It's Casey Mears, who's completed 18995 laps in the 60 Chase races since 2004. Kevin Harvick is 2nd, Tony Stewart 3rd, and Jimmie Johnson 4th. Denny Hamlin extends his perfect record for making the Chase to 5 for 5 since he first went full time in Cup back in 2006. Denny has 2 career Chase wins, both coming last season, and 20 top tens in 40 Chase starts. So far Denny is the only rookie to make the Chase when he finished 3rd in 2006, but he was only 12th in 2007 and 8th in 2008 before finishing 5th in 2009. 4 time defending Sprint Cup champion Jimmie Johnson is the only other driver with a perfect Chase record, making the Chase all 7 seasons since it's inception. Jimmie has 18 career Chase wins, 12 more than the next driver, and an average finish of 8.4 in 60 starts. Jimmie has the most wins (18), top fives (33), top tens (45) and laps led (3190, almost double of Matt Kenseth in 2nd with 1642). Jimmie has finished in the top five in points in all 8 of his previous seasons in Cup with the last 4 championships, a runner-up finish in 2004 and a 5th in 2005 in the first 6 Chases. Kevin Harvick is in the Chase for the 4th time in his career. Harvick has two Chase wins, both coming in 2006 at New Hampshire and Phoenix, but has only 9 top fives in 60 Chase starts. But his 29 top tens is 6th best, most of them coming in 2006 and 2008 when he finished 4th and 5th in the standings respectively. Kyle Busch makes the Chase for the 4th time in 6 seasons in Cup. Kyle's only Chase win came in his rookie season in 2005 when he failed to make it, and he has 20 top tens in 53 Chase starts. Kyle had Chase finishes of 10th, 5th and 10th from 2006 to 2008. The inaugural Chase champion, Kurt Busch, makes the Chase for a 5th time, his 3rd in 5 seasons with Penske. Kurt won in 2004 thanks to a Chase-record 9 top tens in 10 races. Kurt has 32 top tens in 58 Chase starts, tied for 3rd most, and two career Chase wins (2004 at New Hampshire and 2009 at Texas). Last year was the first time since that 2004 championship that he finished in the top five in the standings in 4th, after being let go from Roush for the last two races of 2005 and finishing 10th and then finishing 7th in 2007. 2002 and 2005 Cup champion Tony Stewart makes his 6th Chase appearance, his 2nd straight with Stewart-Haas Racing. Tony Stewart has 5 career Chase wins, but 3 of them came in 2006 when he just missed the Chase. His two wins while he's been in the Chase came in 2008 at Talladega and 2009 at Kansas. Tony is 5th in Chase top tens with 31. Tony is the only driver to finish the regular season as the point leader and go on to win the championship in the Chase when he did so in 2005, but it's his only top 5 points finish in 6 Chase appearances; he's finished 6th 3 times and was 9th in 2008. Greg Biffle is in the Chase for a 4th time, his 3rd straight appearance after only making the Chase once in the first 3 seasons. Biffle is tied for the 2nd most Chase wins with 6, with 3 coming in his Chase appearances (Homestead in 2005, the first two races of the Chase at NHIS and Dover in 2008). He has the 5th most Chase top fives with 19. Biffle finished 2nd in 2005, 3rd in 2008 and 7th in 2009. 4 time Sprint Cup champion Jeff Gordon makes his 6th Chase appearance. Jeff has 3 Chase wins, one in 2005 at Martinsville when he missed it and two, Talladega and Charlotte, in 2007 when he finished 2nd in the standings. Jeff is 2nd only to Jimmie in top fives (26) and top tens (41) in 60 Chase starts. Jeff was runner-up in 2007 and finished 3rd in 2004 and 2009. Carl Edwards makes the Chase for the 5th time in 6 full seasons in Cup. Carl is tied for 2nd with Roush teammate Biffle in Chase wins with 6, but all have come in his Chase appearances; twice in 2005 at Atlanta and Texas, once at Dover in 2007, and 3 times at Atlanta, Texas and Homestead in 2008. Carl is tied for 3rd in top fives with 20 and is tied with Kurt Busch for 3rd in top tens with 32. Carl finished tied for 2nd in 2005, his first full season in Cup and finished 2nd in 2008. Jeff Burton makes his 4th Chase, all in the last 5 seasons. Burton has 2 Chase wins, Dover in 2006 and Charlotte in 2008, but only 215 laps led is 2nd worst among all driver who's made at least one Chase (Brian Vickers is worst at 130). In Jeff's previous Chase appearances from 2006 to 2008 he finished 7th, 8th and 6th respectively. 2003 Sprint Cup champion Matt Kenseth is tied with Jeff Gordon and Tony Stewart for 2nd most Chase appearances at 6. Matt and Jimmie are the only drivers who made the first 5 Chases (2004-2008). Matt has only 1 career Chase win, Homestead in 2007, but his 20 top fives are tied with teammate Carl Edwards for 3rd most. Kenseth was runner-up in 2006 and 4th in 2007. Clint Bowyer makes the Chase for the 3rd time in 5 full seasons in Cup. Clint has 1 career Chase win, New Hampshire in 2007, and has 19 top tens in 40 Chase races. Clint finished 3rd in 2007 and 5th in 2008. Gibbs, Childress and Roush each have 3 cars in the Chase. Roush and Gibbs have Chase championships with Kurt in 2004 and Tony in 2005 respectively, while Childress' best Chase finish was 3rd by Clint Bowyer in 2007. Roush has finished runner-up in the Chase 3 times with 3 different drivers, twice having drivers finishing 2nd and 3rd. Roush also has the record for most drivers to make the Chase with 5 in 2005, literally a 50% shot at the title, but they finished 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 7th and 10th. Hendrick has 2 cars in the Chase, and have had by far the most Chase success thanks to Jimmie Johnson's 4 championships. HMS has finished 1-2 twice, including becoming the first organization in NASCAR history to finish 1-2-3 in the standings (2009 with Jimmie, Mark Martin and Jeff Gordon). Hendrick and Roush are the only two organizations to have at least 1 car in the Chase in all 6 seasons. Stewart-Haas Racing has a car in the Chase for the 2nd straight season, giving them a 3 for 4 record for making the Chase between the #14 and #39 since forming from Haas Racing in 2009 (the #39 missed the Chase this season). Tony Stewart finished 6th and Ryan Newman finished 9th last season. Although you could say they're technically the 3rd Hendrick car to make the Chase. Penske has 1 car in the Chase, the #2 with Kurt Busch. Penske has made the Chase 4 times with 2009 and 2010 being the first time they've made it in back-to-back seasons; 2005 was the only time they've had two cars in the Chase (Ryan Newman 6th and Rusty Wallace 8th). Penske's best finish in the Chase is 4th by Kurt Busch last season. 101. 18fan posted: 09.13.2010 - 6:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gibbs only has two cars in the Chase, Logano wasn't even close to making it. 102. Talon64 posted: 09.13.2010 - 6:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Whoops, I thought something was wrong. 2008 was the only year that JGR got all 3 cars into the Chase. 103. Baker posted: 09.13.2010 - 10:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I used to enjoy reading these things after the race, but now its just a sorry excuse for a Nascar conversation. 104. DaleJrFan19 posted: 09.14.2010 - 1:11 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @Yams Oh, so because I'm not supposedly a "real fan" means you should just shun be because I have a different opinion? Well fine, be that way, but it doesn't take away the fact that this race was boring and predictable. 105. martin-n-rusty posted: 09.14.2010 - 4:05 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) DaleJrFan19. Just because a race doesn't have 4 or 5 bullshit cautions to bunch the field up and create a bunch of wrecks does not mean the race sucks. Yeah, the race wasn't necessarily the best, bu this really goes back to my comment I made earlier. We have a race with no bullcrap cautions, so what does that mean? Does that make the fans happy? Hell no! If NASCAR ever were to have a downfall, the fans can take part of the blame. The leadership of NASCAR can take a good part of the blame as well, but the fans have to take a slice of the blame pie as well. 106. RLewis9 posted: 09.14.2010 - 3:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I didn't find the race boring because of the lack of cautions. I don't care about wrecks, I found it boring because it was uneventful, predictable, and anticlimatic. I mean in the last 150 laps, the only passing we saw was Denny Hamlin lapping cars. Kyle made it interesting for a little while there, but he burned up his tires and fell back and we had a very boring final 10 laps. It didn't help that there was no Chase drama at all for the first time that I can remember. Unless something broke or he wrecked, everyone knew Bowyer had the last spot locked up. 107. Talon64 posted: 09.14.2010 - 6:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "BK finally gets a top 15, his first since Darlington in May, although he still couldn't hang on to the lead lap. If he does not score a top ten by the conclusion of the California race next month, then he would have matched his predecessor's mark of 33 consecutive races without a top ten, which should vindicate Stremme a little bit." BK was the highest finishing Penske car in the race, actually for the 7th time this season and 2nd time at Richmond. Last year Stremme was the highest finishing Penske driver only 3 times in 33 starts. And let's not fool ourselves, Brad Keselowski had a top 10 finish in the first Atlanta race this season. But technically the #12's top ten drought is at 71 races; Newman's last 12 races in 2008, Stremme's 33 starts in 2009 and Keselowski's 29 starts since. 108. DaleSrFanForever posted: 09.14.2010 - 9:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "If JJ starts on the pole, leads every single lap AND the race goes caution free, I STILL will feel like I got my money's worth.....because as a fan, I'll have bought my tickets and made the trip to see a race. Regardless of the outcome." That's exactly how I feel about the races I go to at Martinsville. And it's a good thing, because JJ usually puts a hurtin' on them there (much to my chagrin, regardless of what some people seem to think, including my imposter posts #60 and #61). Going to a race, especially at a short track, is just so cool. Again, I am NOT a JJ fan, I'm just calling it like I see it. Check out these stats provided by Talon: "Jimmie has 18 career Chase wins, 12 more than the next driver, and an average finish of 8.4 in 60 starts. Jimmie has the most wins (18), top fives (33), top tens (45) and laps led (3190, almost double of Matt Kenseth in 2nd with 1642)." Wow! That is just soul crushing dominance. Why would we expect anything different this year? Hell, this is his "down year". He still has won 5 times and is suddenly coming back to life right on cue. I don't like it, but unlike seemingly everyone else that doesn't like JJ, I don't discredit him, I take the opportunity to appreciate the true greatness I am watching. Now if he could just not be so damn boring...... 109. DaleJrFan19 posted: 09.15.2010 - 12:21 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @martin-n-rusty did you read my original post? "It's not because there were no wrecks, and it's not because of the lack of competition "debis" cautions, it's because it was flat out BORING!" See RLewis9's latest post for further explanation. 110. petty43 posted: 09.15.2010 - 1:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) my prediction for how the chase will sort out. 1 tony stewart 2 denny 3 jimmie 4 kevin harvick 5 jeff burton 6 jeff gordon 7 kurt busch 8 matt kenseth 9 greg biffle 10 kyle busch 11 carl edwards 12 clint bowyer 111. Frank posted: 09.16.2010 - 9:32 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) DSFF, your punishments on Kyle Busch are still funny but let me try to prove that his victory in this Chase will be good for sport. 1. He is young, selfish and self-made driver who is cutting truth in every interview except his ridiculous comment about "Earnhardt style" couple weeks ago at Bristol. Just a bright, extraordinal person. 2. He was the driver who was let to go away by Hendrick. And he almost won the next race in his new team and was making terrific season until the Chase where (it's just my opinion) some kind of diversion occured at #18 team. So if JJ dominance will be stopped by his ex-teammate it will be just beautiful. 3.1. Winning the championship will give him confidence as far as the other competitors. It will be open for everyone (of course not everyone but just for simplifying) and because many driver doesn't like Kyle Busch they will be racing with more input. In all, competition will grow up. 3.2. Same for the fans - if JJ will do it again we'll be able just say "nothing changes" and interest will fall as it happening from 2006. The only good reason for 5th consecutive is that it will continue to prove that Chase is sucks. But does anybody believe that NA$CAR is able to think different so fast and right now? If any changes will be applied it could be either elimination after some Chase rounds or excluding 1-2 worst finishes. Needless to say both rules and its variations will make winning the Cup Champmionship more and more like joke. 112. Talon64 posted: 09.16.2010 - 4:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If I had to have only one reason for wanting Kyle to win the championships, it'd be that it would piss so many fans off. lol If the most popular driver in NASCAR can't win shit then NASCAR's biggest villian might as well, it would still create lots of attention for the sport. I'd label Kyle as the least popular but he's actually cracked the top 10 for MPD voting this season. 113. DaleSrFanForever posted: 09.16.2010 - 4:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I respect your opinion Frank. If he does win it, I'll think of you and be happy for you. That will distract me from trying to figure out the precise location I'd like to blow my brains out at. (Just kidding, I don't take it THAT seriously). 114. AutoRockinRacing94 posted: 09.17.2010 - 1:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Worst Chase ever because there wasn't a story or anything great about it this year! In 2005, Ryan Newman made the chase by qualifying in the top 5 and Jamie McMurray was well back there (he was in at that point), so it was already decided after qualifying, if you remember. But this year, nothing happend, I really wanted McMurray to make it and now those two wins means nothing! He did not made the chase...Jeff Gordon is the biggest loser in NASCAR!!! 8 spots down and Hamlin is the big winner 9 spots up! 115. Talon64 posted: 09.17.2010 - 4:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The #1 team wasn't consistent enough to deserve a spot in the Chase. They'll just have to live with their Daytona 500 and Brickyard 400 wins in Jamie's first year with CGR and look forward to a run at the championship in 2011. lol 116. RCRandPenskeGuy posted: 09.18.2010 - 1:45 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "They'll just have to live with their Daytona 500 and Brickyard 400 wins in Jamie's first year with CGR and look forward to a run at the championship in 2011. lol" LOL, so true. It hasn't been a bad year for McMurray at all, many drivers would love to win two of NASCAR's biggest paying races in the same year. 117. DaleSrFanForever posted: 09.18.2010 - 1:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Unless I had a legitimate shot at the Cup championship (48, 24, 11, 18, 29), I would trade seasons with McMurray in a heartbeat. Especially if I were one of the winless drivers in the cha$e. I understand they weren't consistent enough to make it. Although I think winning should be rewarded more than it is, I still think consistency should also be rewarded. So I have no problem with them not making it. But I betcha they have had more fun than any other team this year, and now instead of worrying about points, they have 10 races to try to add some more trophies. 118. JakeTV370 posted: 09.18.2010 - 3:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I love a race where there are a few drivers leading at least 10% of the race and a wreckfest to top it off. This race was so boring that I turned the race off halfway into the race. I checked NASCAR.com to see if any action. But what happens? One driver leading the rest of the race with no action whatsoever. I swear to god, if that happens constitently in the chase. I WILL stop watching NASCAR. PERIOD. Since they went to the rear wing, the competitive racing and wreckfests decreased slightly, but the rear spoiler stole the might from the wreckfest amounts to the competitive racing, and gave it a new name. They should bring back the cars from 2007 and put the implanted safety into them, because this is not Nascar, this is just low-classed budget racing constisting on only one driver (Jimmie Johnson) that will win championships until December 21, 2012. 119. NZ Nascar Fan posted: 12.10.2010 - 8:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I liked the race, i don't watch for exitment, i watch for racing. 120. Daniel posted: 05.21.2012 - 4:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) In using fastest 43: #10 Terry Labonte, #46 Michael McDowell, #64 Todd Bodine Out using fastest 43: #09 Bobby Labonte, #7 Kevin Conway & #83 Mattias Ekstrom 121. Anthony posted: 07.08.2012 - 9:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wow Terry's first DNQ In his career that's horrible for a former Winston cup champion 122. kup posted: 09.03.2013 - 4:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ? #83 by Ekstrom ? As far as I know Ekstrom raced just once at Cup and it was road-course? 123. Nascar Lead Lap Points posted: 12.23.2014 - 9:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Owner Update #10 Stavola Labonte Racing 124. Nu3clear Wa4le posted: 05.29.2015 - 2:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsor update #47 - Kroger / Kingsford "Tonight's Grill Night!" 125. SweetRich posted: 02.16.2020 - 10:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The Commentators For The Race Were Marty Reid, Dale Jarrett And Andy Petree. 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