|| *Comments on the 2013 Aaron's 499:* First Page | Previous Page | Next Page | Last Page | View All On One Page View the most recent comment | Post a comment <#post> 1. AnonymousEFR posted: 05.04.2013 - 1:42 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Doubt we'll get the race in anytime soon, 90 percent chance of rain today, 60 tomorrow. 2. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2013 - 1:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) What does the weather look like for Monday? 3. murb posted: 05.04.2013 - 1:53 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) That sucks. Now I'll probably have to either figure out a way to skip school with the "Carolina Flu" or coordinate taping the race. 4. Scott B posted: 05.04.2013 - 1:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Monday is iffy too. Tuesday if the first day that really looks clear. I suspect they'll try to at least start the race Sunday if there is any possible way, even if they can't run the full distance. 5. Bronco posted: 05.04.2013 - 2:09 pm Rate this comment: (2) (2) Hate that Elliott Sadler missed the race when he was going to run the full distance while the useless #98 car made it in. In the event of qualifying being washed out, NASCAR should include all the cars planning on going the distance in the race and then distribute the remaining spots to the start and parkers based on practice speeds. 6. David posted: 05.04.2013 - 2:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Now I'll probably have to either figure out a way to skip school with the "Carolina Flu" or coordinate taping the race." I'm right there with you, except I'm way too well-known of a student to skip school like that. I just can't bring myself to do it. "I suspect they'll try to at least start the race Sunday if there is any possible way, even if they can't run the full distance." NASCAR has a policy of not starting races if they know they can't run the full distance. 7. David posted: 05.04.2013 - 2:13 pm Rate this comment: (5) (0) "Hate that Elliott Sadler missed the race when he was going to run the full distance while the useless #98 car made it in." You mean the useless #98 car that finished ninth at Daytona? 8. Daniel posted: 05.04.2013 - 2:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And that has stated they will be going the full distance this week. 9. startandparkfan posted: 05.04.2013 - 2:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sad that Sadler is out. 10. Anthony posted: 05.04.2013 - 2:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Elliott Sadler didn't make it >:( first DNQ in 13 Years at the same track. 11. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.04.2013 - 2:42 pm Rate this comment: (2) (3) So let me get this right, the f*cktards in Vegas think Danica Patrick is a better racer, especially plate racer, than: Ambrose, Waltrip (2001, 2003 Daytona 500 winner, 2002 Pepsi 400 winner, 2003 Talladega winner), Bayne (2011 Daytona 500 winner), Paul Menard (Cup winner), Aric Almirola, David Ragan (won 2011 Coke Zero 400), Ricky Stenhouse, Jr. (2011, 2012 NNS Champ when she ran full time!), Casey Mears (Cup winner), Josh Wise (who beat the sh!t out of her last week), Jeff Burton (00 Pepsi 400 winner), David Gilliland (won many poles and led lots of laps WITHOUT pitstops at both plate tracks), Regan Smith (won the 08 Talladega, finished ahead of her at Talladega, runs for the win every week in a car she couldn't run in the top-30 with one year ago), David Reutimann (Cup winner), Scott Speed (top-5 at Talladega 4 years ago), Terry Labonte (1989, 1997 Talladega winner), Bobby Labonte (1998 Talladega winner), Dave Blaney (should have won spring 2011), and Joe Nemechek (won many NNS plate races)? 12. murb posted: 05.04.2013 - 2:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I'm right there with you, except I'm way too well-known of a student to skip school like that. I just can't bring myself to do it." I probably won't be able to either. I'm graduating in a couple weeks, so I probably need to get some last minute assignments done. It doesn't look good that the race will get in tomorrow though, so I guess I'll have to tape it or something. As BoB would say, "Bummer". 13. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.04.2013 - 3:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) You do realize most of the rain/thunder is coming after 2 pm local tomorrow and the race starts at 12 PM? They should be able to get it in even if it's shortened. Nationwide race looks even more likely. 14. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.04.2013 - 3:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Actually, mist looks to be the biggest problem at the moment. 15. Bronco posted: 05.04.2013 - 3:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (3) "You mean the useless #98 car that finished ninth at Daytona?" Why does it matter where the #98 finished at Daytona? They didn't come to Talladega to race, they came to park it early, so I don't think they should be in the field over the #81 team who has a sponsor and is going the distance. 16. We need more Onion posted: 05.04.2013 - 3:59 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) They came to Dega to race, unless they wreck, they will probably run the distance at plate tracks. 17. We need more Onion posted: 05.04.2013 - 4:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And to make every discussion on #98 pointless, the #95 would have missed the race if it came to owner points. 18. Benjamin Lowe posted: 05.04.2013 - 4:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If it were me I would have the drivers go out there and race regardless of the rain. 19. Paul posted: 05.04.2013 - 4:45 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) The #98 car is sponsored for this race, so that debunks the whole "#98 car is gonna start-and-park" analogy. Besides, Elliott Sadler ran the Daytona 500 last year and wiped out six cars on lap two because he apparently forgot how to draft, whereas Michael McDowell ran a very clean race at Daytona this year and finished 9th. No big loss that Sadler missed the race. 20. Scott B posted: 05.04.2013 - 5:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "NASCAR has a policy of not starting races if they know they can't run the full distance." Well, they'd also tell you it's not their policy to throw cautions for any reason other than safety. The TV ratings will be better if they race on Sunday. ;) 21. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.04.2013 - 5:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) NASCAR is going to have to shorten this race 22. 12345Dude posted: 05.04.2013 - 6:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I was watching the sprint cup practice today on speed they were replaying it. Larry Mac was taking about drivers he thought were going to win soon on the sprint cup level. He said the 3 drivers that came to his mind were Aric Armirola....Ricky Stenhouse Jr.... and Danica Patrick. 23. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2013 - 7:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Because obviously if they can just give Danica good cars, she'll be contending for wins left and right. Isn't it obvious? 24. JG24FanForever posted: 05.04.2013 - 8:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) I'm in Atlanta,at a friends,about to watch the Mayweather/Guerrero fight. Does anybody on here like boxing? 25. Paul posted: 05.04.2013 - 8:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Does anybody on here like boxing?" Occasionally I'll watch a boxing match on ESPN Classic, but I don't usually pay much attention to that sport. I guess you can be our resident boxing fan, just like I'm sort of the resident hockey fan around here. 26. startandparkfan posted: 05.04.2013 - 9:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Man, those guys were turning super fast qualifying laps, but their speeds are so slow! If this one is rain delayed, at least I have the Sao Paolo race! If qualifying was set by the final practice speeds, Stremme would be 2nd! 27. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.04.2013 - 9:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Paul, I am a hockey fanatic... I just don't flaunt it as you do. :P 28. Paul posted: 05.04.2013 - 9:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Haha fair enough, Nico. I take it you're either a Panthers/Lightning/Hurricanes fan? 29. JG24FanForever posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:04 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) Mayweather landed 153 power shots for a connect percentage of 61.1%,and won all 12 rounds against Guerrero. America!! 30. palo_s posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:47 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) #11: Nico and point is? 31. 83andJoe posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:52 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Especially since, considering her Daytona performance, I'd say the odds are reasonable. 32. 12345Dude posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:39 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I listened to Mayweather talk before the fight and I could tell completely that he knew that Guerrero wasn't near on his level. I know Mayweather is undeafeated but isn't the boxing competition really weak now as everyone is leaving the sport? I have heard that people that would of gone into boxing maybe 20 years ago are now training to go into MMA. 33. Jocke Persson posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:47 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) -------------------------------------------- Hey everyone, I'm trying to figure out who has the record, official or unofficial, of most starts/races in one season, from Nascar's Big 3 series combined. Is it Kyle Busch? In 2009 he raced in 86 races in the Big 3 combined. And he actually has three 80+ seasons, and five 70+ seasons. The closest drivers I can find are Kevin Harvick and Carl Edwards with both at 71. Mark Martin's best is 57. Any help? Thanks. I would love to find like a Top 10 list or something. ---------------------------------------------- 34. 83andJoe posted: 05.05.2013 - 4:16 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) 12345Dude - unfortunatly, yeah, boxing seems to be "old" and "out of style" while MMA is "hip" and "trendy". 35. UnderTaker0024 posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:03 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) @11. NicoRosbergFan Vegas set their odds not necessary on how they think a driver will perform, but base on where the money is trending. Most casual fans or hardcore gamblers who doesn't follow NASCAR on a regular basis mostly likely hear her name in the media and how she ran at Daytona and use that to put money on her. So Vegas usually sets odds to entice more people to bet for her to bring in more money. If they set it based solely on her perform, no one would bet for her, therefore they lose money. At the same time, if they set it closer to Kyle or Matt's odds, no one would bet because the payout isn't as high, causing them to lose money. 36. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:48 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @ Paul: actually, I am an Oilers fan, strangely enough, meaning we used to hate each others guts (used to since we will no longer be in the same division). @ palo_s: oh no, that douchebag is back! @ undertaker: thank you for the explanation. 37. Anonymous posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:54 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) What's the difference between 15-1 and 15-1 (f) on the odds sheet? 38. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.05.2013 - 11:46 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) 15-1 means the odds for the driver. All the guys with 15-1(f) represent "the field" 39. palo_s posted: 05.05.2013 - 12:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #36 Do you have answer without insults? 40. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 12:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yeah that's a shame with all the conference realignments happening in sports. In college football it's just horrendous, and now it's happening in the NHL too. It's gonna take some getting used to to have the Flames, Canucks, and Oilers in a different division now. Not sure if I mentioned this before, but I'm big Colorado Avalanche fan, but I'll root for my home state Wild when they're not playing the Avs, so I'm kind of disappointed that my two favorite teams still have to go through each other in order to win the division. According to Michael Waltrip, Brian Vickers is a future Cup Series champion. Ugh... 41. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 12:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This little history about Talladega is nice, but the person speaking as Talladega is ridiculous. 42. Alex posted: 05.05.2013 - 12:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Speaking of hockey, my Maple Leafs won their first playoff game in ages last night! 43. cjs3872 posted: 05.05.2013 - 12:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Paul (#19), just look at the crash at the end of last night's Nationwide race, in regards to Sadler. He's pushing Brian Vickers as both are passing cars on the apron, which is what started that final crash. First, what they were doing is illegal and the only reason they weren't penalized a lap was because both ended up crashing. Then you have the fact that there's no banking at all on the apron and it's a sharper turn down there. I do't know what they were doing, but it was a stupid move by both drivers, and it took out quite a number of cars that were headed to good finishes. 44. The Final Gear posted: 05.05.2013 - 12:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I was watching that Wild/Hawks game when Danica was the guest of the night. It's another reason for me to not like her, as I am a Red Wings fan. I think I might be getting a blessing today as well, the sound on my Fox channel went out. I don't even have to hit the mute button now :) 45. Destroyahirismix666 posted: 05.05.2013 - 12:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Michael is on PCP again. Waltrip, you're OUTTA here! 46. Alex posted: 05.05.2013 - 12:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #22, who else is there really to choose? Ricky and Aric are the only competitive regulars in the field that haven't won a race. All that's left in a competitive car is Danica who only has a shot on superspeedways and then a lot of drivers from underfunded teams like Front Row, BK Racing, and Circle Sport who have an even less chance of winning on a superspeedway. 47. Destroyahirismix666 posted: 05.05.2013 - 12:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sunnyish for now, but heavy clouds are rolling in. I'm worried about another rain-shortened/darkness shortened event. Well, I'm looking at my favs, and hoping that they win. I will ask this though. If Danica Patrick wins the race, and Dale Jr finishes second, but Danica goes bellow the yellow line to win the race without being pushed there, who does NASCAR penalize? Danica for going bellow the line? Jr for pushing her there? Or will they suddenly remove the yellow line rule? 48. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That was cool how Mike Joy was mentioning some restrictor plate statistics for drivers as he was going through the lineup. Hopefully they do that more often. 49. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Palo_s, let me think about that for a moment. 50. Alex posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If Denny is getting out at the first caution, he shouldn't have to wait very long. The track looks very dark and eerie. 51. Destroyahirismix666 posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 357. Destroyahirismix666 posted: BOOGITY BOOGITY BOOGITY! LET'S TO 'DEGA RACING/Crashing BOYS and BoB! The moment of embarassment when tyou realized you psoted that on the Aaron's 312 page. 52. Destroyahirismix666 posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Also, I'm already seeing rain on the windshields of the cars. 53. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It got cloudy REALLY quickly. 54. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) No. 55. We need more Onion posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The Indycar race is awsome so far, almost as good as WTCC was, does it worth watching Dega? 56. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Onion, I am watching IndyCar. Watch Indycar. It's better. 57. joey2448 posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Man, I'm still in disbelief at the amount of racing we've gotten in this weekend. Most of the ARCA race, the whole Nationwide race and now the Cup race is started on time (well, 10 min early). Three days ago it looked like a complete washout... The track sure looks strange with all those dark clouds covering the western skies... 58. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Dale Jr. and Travis Kvapil almost crashed on the backstretch. 59. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Tough luck for Bayne. 60. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And Trevor Bayne has a transmission problem. 61. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Blown engine or transmission for Trevor Bayne, bummer. 62. joey2448 posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Is Junior the luckiest man in Alabama right now??? What luck! Perfect timing! Now we get to see the Hamlin/Vickers switcheroo... 63. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Good race so far, shame for Trevor. Let's see how this driver swap goes... 64. We need more Onion posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Was it a Roush engine or Wood Bros. have their own power package? 65. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Just flipped it over to the IndyCar race for a moment. Sato is leading Newgarden, Pagenaud, and Hinchcliffe. That's an awesome top 4! 66. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) "Sato is leading Newgarden, Pagenaud, and Hinchcliffe. That's an awesome top 4!" Damn, Sato might contend for the championship this year!!!! 67. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:35 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Was it a Roush engine or Wood Bros. have their own power package?" All the Fords use Roush/Yates. 68. We need more Onion posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The A.J. Foyt car seems as competitive as they last were with Sharp. 69. John Royal posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It is raining in trioval area 70. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin looked like he was doing dance moves atop the pit box. 71. Kenny posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sounds like I haven't missed much 72. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Great fight for the lead in Indycar; Sato, Newgardena, and Hinchcliff are really going at it! 73. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:45 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) Darrell: "Danica Danica Danica Danica was doing this and whenever that car behind her, whoever that is behind Danica...... that is the 2 car of Keselowski". That is the defending champ you moron! You know the name of the worst driver in the field, but can't pick out the champ? I'm gonna go watch YouTube clips of the end of 1986 Miller High Life 400 ending now. 74. joey2448 posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) There's about to be a great finish in the IndyCar race! Sato under heavy pressure from Hinchcliffe.. 75. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hinch! 76. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sato is doing a lot of blocking... Nevermind Hinchcliff just got by him, score another one for the Mayor of Hinchtown. 77. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) James Hinchcliffe just committed highway robbery without a gun! What a finish!! Damn, that's a shame that race ended so quickly. I could have watched another 10 laps of that. 78. joey2448 posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) HINCHCLIFFE GOT SATO IN THE FINAL TURN!!! Sorry Dega, but THAT was a race! Sato was blocking big time! 79. The Final Gear posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Indycar just feels so much like a B-tier series with those blocking rules. Blocking is apart of racing, deal with it. 80. Kenny posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Just what happioned to jr exactly? 81. We need more Onion posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That was simply the best finish I've seen in the last 2-3 years. Was rooting for Taku, but I'm happy for Hinch too. If you missed the Indycars, watch the race when it goes on the tube, it was brilliant. 82. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hinch!!!!!! Big one at Dega. 83. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Big One! 84. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) BIG CRASH!! 85. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It's the big one. 86. The Final Gear posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:53 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Ugh Danica wasn't involved. I'm sure this will be moment of the race with her slowing down for it... 87. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Stremme might have been damaged. Darn it. 88. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Waltrip, you're outta here. 89. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Busch caused a huge crash at a restrictor plate race massive surprise. 90. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Looks like Ambrose may of forced Shrub into Kahne to start that. And we get to to listen to how BofB skillfully avoided being caught up in that. 91. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Great. Now the chances of BoB winning this race suddenly went WAY up. 92. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jeff just blew a tire. 93. Jracingfast posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Who gives a flying f**k about Danica's save.....Scott speed had an epic miss in the grass! 94. We need more Onion posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Why always Mears? 95. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hinchtown! Hinchtown! Hinchtown! 96. Mr X posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jamie McMurray did an amazing job of missing that wreck. 97. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) At least Kyle admitted it. Thank you BoB's spotter, we will never hear the end of this. 98. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Of course best Indycar race of the year and my sat feed cuts out half way. My luck... 99. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Scott Speed's rallycross experience helped him out there... 100. 18fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Blocking is part of racing. The risk you take is that you can wreck yourself blocking too much. Racing series should not have penalties for blocking. 101. Destroyahirismix666 posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Good Lord Christ. Kyle admitted he did it. At least half of the field wiped out. 102. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Why always Mears?" I know, right? Whenever he has a chance to run really well, it gets screwed up. 103. The Long Shot posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Mears' car isn't damaged too badly. He might lose a lap, but he should be OK to finish. 104. John Royal posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I can't wait to hear Stewart's comments on this. He has always good races at these tracks. 105. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) So both of BoB's former rides have won so far. Will this be brought up? Of course not. 106. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 1:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) What's all the blocking fuss about for the Indycar race? 107. hyperacti posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) As if it wasn't bad enough already, this race might now get really, really boring. Pack racing tho 108. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Looking at NASCAR.com's leaderboard, it looks like most of the underdogs actually missed the crash. 109. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) McDowell drove through it very nicely, and is now running fourth. Comment #5 couldn't have been more wrong. 110. We need more Onion posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "What's all the blocking fuss about for the Indycar race?" Sato was racing fair, but aggressive, Indycar announcers see it as blocking. 111. Anonymous posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Free pass for the #88. 112. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) An A.J. Foyt-owned car leads the points heading into the Indianapolis 500. That's pretty cool. 113. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Hey Fox... SHUT. UP. ABOUT. BoB. 114. Destroyahirismix666 posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Give credit where credit is due. The 83 cut the grass awesomely, and BoB's spotter did amazing. 115. We need more Onion posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:04 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) OH MAI LORD, WATTASAVE... at 20 MPH. 116. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Now you have to admit, the Baroness's avoidance of the #18 car was slightly impressive. 117. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Oh yeah, and also, Hamlin isn't gonna make the Chase. Get over it, media. 118. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Now you have to admit, the Baroness's avoidance of the #18 car was slightly impressive." It was, BUT THEY DON'T NEED TO KEEP SAYING IT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. 119. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Busch has been Ricky Bobby this season, win or wreck. 120. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Fatal Crash at Donington Park Historic race. R.I.P. "Donington Historic Festival Statement: It is with great regret that the directors of Donington Park Racing Limited, operators of Donington Park Circuit, have to report that, following an accident in a race for historic touring cars held as part of the race meeting taking place on Sunday 5th May, the driver of car number 67 (a 1965 Mini Cooper S), Christian Devereux of Chiswick, London succumbed to the injuries sustained at approximately 16.30 hours. The organising race club, HSCC and Donington Park Racing Limited, together with the circuit's medical and emergency services, will now be co-operating with both the Leicestershire Police and motorsport's Governing Body, the Motor Sports Association, in order to determine the cause of this tragic accident." 121. Bronco posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Really hope that they run a full race, even if it means coming back tomorrow. The last thing I want is a rain shortened restrictor plate race. 122. AveryNH posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Martin True, Stremme and McDowell both get good hands award there. Burton almost did but the Red Sea closed in on his doors and he got a little bit of damage. Danica just stopped. Good job girl for finally doing the logical thing in that situation instead if mashing the pedal all days of thunder style and weaving through it. 123. joey2448 posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Man that wreck looked really similar to the big crash early in this year's Daytona 500, didn't it? Kasey Kahne got turned between the tri-oval and turn 1, and both Harvick and Stewart are also in it. And both wrecks happened about the same part of the race too... Whew! I gotta catch my breath. I was busy watching the finish to the IndyCar race, and as soon as that race was done, I switched back to FOX, just in time to see the big one. 124. We need more Onion posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @120 Damn, doesn't matter if it is a Pro or an Amateur, a rookie or a veretan,, it is always sad to hear these. Rest in Peace. 125. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Newman is up front at a track that hates him. 126. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kurt Busch is up there in the top five, and apparently he was caught up in that big wreck a little bit. 127. AveryNH posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yeah That Indy car finish was one for the ages. Blocking aside that pass was(to borrow an overused Kyle petty expression) absolutely Incredible!!!!! Well done Hinch 128. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Man that wreck looked really similar to the big crash early in this year's Daytona 500, didn't it? Kasey Kahne got turned between the tri-oval and turn 1, and both Harvick and Stewart are also in it. And both wrecks happened about the same part of the race too..." And Kyle Busch caused both wrecks. 129. We need more Onion posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) McDowell has been driving nice and quiet. Looks nice for them, they even have a sponsor. (or is it just Curb Records in a fancy font?) 130. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:20 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) That 20 car has some STEAM! I wouldn't worry too much about his penalties. Wtih those cars and Matt's ability and mental strength, they will be fine. 131. Kenny posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hey a commursal with what's his name who whe K&N west title last year I like him 132. TS1420 posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jeez. Almost all my favorites in that crash while my two least favorite are up front leading. Hopefully this race ends under rain with somebody like Waltrip or Blaney leading. 133. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Hey a commursal with what's his name who whe K&N west title last year I like him" Dylan Kwasniewski. 134. Kenny posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) @134 thx I hope he wins the east title this year(and no I can't say let along spell his name :p) 135. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Great run for that "useless" 98 car running 12th. 136. We need more Onion posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Was nice to see a bit of the low-budget teams' group running around the 20th-26th place 137. 18fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:35 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Harvick came back out after the wreck and blew up. 138. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jeff Gordon is straggling behind the lead draft and is almost certain to get lapped. 139. joey2448 posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Damn, it looks like Jeff Gordon is struggling to keep up after getting a piece of that wreck. He is over 18 seconds behind and drafting with Landon Cassill I think... 140. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This round of pit stops is going to be VERY interesting... 141. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Matt Kenseth's car today reminds me of Jeff Gordon's Yoda car from this race back in 2005. So dominant and can easily make moves to the front after being put back. 142. Kenny posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:44 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) 137 Lol 143. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gordon leading as its about to rain, lol 144. Kenny posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jr 3ed :D 145. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This is why Roger Penske used to privately hire a spotter plane for weather at the Indy 500 during it's heyday, weather radars are sometimes useless for predicting precipitation. 146. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Man, why can't we just watch the race? Why do you need to interview Hamlin in the Hollywood Hotel during green flag racing? Fox, you're outta here again. 147. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And Jeff gets lapped. Dadgum it all. 148. cjs3872 posted: 05.05.2013 - 2:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) TeamPlayersBlue, a big part of the reason nobody can get to Kenseth has to do with that small spoiler. The cars are just not punching much of a hole in the air, and because of that, the trailing cars can't close. I suspected we'd see this after watching he little amount of drafting we saw at the Daytona test in January because they couldn't even get to within a car length before they would stall. The lack of action we saw at Daytona during SpeedWeeks and now today is proof that they need to go to a taller spoiler, because if they don't all the plate races are going to be a single-file prosession. In fact, unless there's a caution late, I think whoever's leading after the final pit stops will win the race, and if there's a late caution, whoever gets the lead will win the race, even if it's with 10 r more laps to go, because it's virtually impossible to pass because they can't get runs. 149. 18fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) A lot of the lack of action in this race has to do with the fact that a lot of the fast cars were involved in the big wreck. 150. cjs3872 posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Actually TeamPlayersBlue, one of the first teams to try to use that tactic in regards to the weather was McLaren. During the 1976 Indianapolis 500, McLaren was constantly in touch with the weather bureau because they got burned in 1975 when they had that monsoon hit not long after Johnny Rutherford pitted. In fact, Bobby Unser even admitted that he had no idea it was going to rain. So in '76, McLaren decided to have someone in almost constant contact with the weather bureau, which is one reason why Johnny Rutherford ran so hard after about lap 70, and he was leading by 15 seconds when the rain hit at exactly the halfway mark. The other reason he was so far in front was that A.J. Foyt's car had a broken sway bar and Gordon Johncock, who was third, was also having difficulties. 151. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) You would think that they would be a little more antsy with the impending weather situation. 152. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Rain is coming... 153. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Looks like rain is 10-15 mins away. 154. cjs3872 posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That has something to do with it also, 18fan, but not much was happening even prior to that. The cars just can't close up because of the lack of air coming from the cars in front, which reduces the effects of the draft, and as a result, everyone's basically stuck where they are. 155. joey2448 posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I know you guys are gonna torch me about this, but with Michael Waltrip running 7th with the cars he owns right ahead of him in 5th and 6th, it reminds me of Dale Earnhardt running right behind his cars in the 2001 Dayotna 500, those of Waltrip and Junior. Now it's on the other hand. Of course, Mikey is no Dale Sr., not even close! 156. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Here comes Stenhouse! Ford Lane 157. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Here we go. It's breaking down now. 158. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) the biggest question of course is how light the rain is. 159. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If anybody can get to the front again it's Kenseth 160. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:06 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Johnson Wins, We Riot." - Everyone at Dega 161. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:07 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) FOX is officially the biggest joke in our sport. 162. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Screw you and your damn commercials Fox!!!!!! 163. We need more Onion posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) WAAAH, the race is probably nearing its conclusion and we are watching an anoying GEICO comm. 164. joey2448 posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Rain is about to hit, drivers are making moves to try and take the lead, it's getting dicey...let's go to commercial. F**k you FOX! 165. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) FOX SUCKS 166. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) STENHOUSE TAKES THE LEAD AND WE MISS IT! 167. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Let's only focus on the racing when they're running single file. 168. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:10 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) We probably missed the pass for the win. Thanks a lot, douchebags. 169. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:11 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) The Free Market. 170. TS1420 posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) NASCAR and their stupid rulings. 171. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Carl Edwards wins? 172. joey2448 posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wow. Good going FOX... I really don't think this'll be the end of the race. It looks like a brief shower, and there's still a lot of daylight left. They'll get it restarted. 173. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Looks like only light rain 174. 18fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) We miss Stenhouse pass Jimmie during commercial and then miss Carl pass Stenhouse while showing a replay of Stenhouse passing Jimmie. 175. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And it's a small shower. May not even lose the track. 176. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Yeah, hopefully it will get restarted at least one more time. But I definitely don't see this thing going 188 laps. Still though, ABSOLUTELY PATHETIC COVERAGE BY FOX. THEY SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES FOR MISSING IMPORTANT STUFF LIKE THIS. 177. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Because GEICO commercials are more important than passes for the lead. 178. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) NASCAR.com's live leaderboard says they're red-flagging this race. I think this one might be over. 179. Bronco posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'll hate it if we get deprived of potentially seeing one of the most exciting finishes of the year due to rain. 180. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:21 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) "I'll hate it if we get deprived of potentially seeing one of the most exciting finishes of the year due to rain." I'll hate it if we get deprived of potentially seeing one of the most exciting finishes of the year due to Fox. 181. Jarrett88fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) FOX, you're outta here!!!!!! Plenty of daylight left for a restart within 2.5 hours. 182. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Just end the damn thing, don't make us wait for the inevitable. 183. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Looking at the radar, it looks like the rain is going to pass through pretty quick. Yet I have this feeling that NASCAR will call the race... 184. joey2448 posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if FOX misses the final lap because they're cutting away to commercial or showing a replay of something else. They are that bad. Again, I'm looking at the radar, and I think this will pass through and they'll get back to racing! 185. Benjamin Lowe posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Why doesn't NA$CAR use all of their money to build a dome around the race track to avoid situations like this. 186. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Fox, shut up about the Logano-Hamlin feud. 187. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Would this be the first time the same driver won both the pole and the race by rain? 188. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Fox Sports: More concerned about airing dumb commercials and continuing stupid driver feuds than watching important lead changes. 189. We need more Onion posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) DW is dressed as Kyle Petty. 190. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) FOX would be SO happy if they go to Darlington next weekend and Denny and Joey got into another accident. They'd hype it up to no end. 191. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) lol at Denny. "I think I'm doing at least as good in the Hollywood Hotel as Michael does." Uh, YEAH!!! 192. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Nice to see Denny learned his lesson about worrying and becoming sidetracked with lesser drivers. 193. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Chris Myers is excruciating to listen to. 194. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:37 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Wow, Mikey predicted a last lap pass at Talladega. Way to go out on a limb moron. 195. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think the entire FOX crew is excruciating to listen to...Which is a shame because Mike Joy USED to be a good commentator. 196. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Weather Radar is drunk. 197. Jarrett88fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) By comparison, ESPN wasn't half bad yesterday during the 3 hour rain delay, FOX is so noxious that I can't watch anymore until the race gets restarted or called. 198. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Benjamin, go do a financial sustainability study on a dome over a 2.66 mile racetrack that is only 40% covered by grandstands and tell me about that idea. 199. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I never thought I'd say this but even with Carl Edwards commentary ESPN is officially better than FOX on NASCAR coverage. 200. Kenny posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I knew as soon as I saw mikel y'all where gonna have something to say 201. Benjamin Lowe posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Why Doesn't Fox just fire these idiotic clowns oh yeah because its Fox. 202. Benjamin Lowe posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hey Schroder51 do you have a youtube channel. 203. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I think the entire FOX crew is excruciating to listen to...Which is a shame because Mike Joy USED to be a good commentator." Jeff Hammond is the only useful one, but they shafted him for Michael, so now he doesn't do anything. Fox's coverage this year reminds me of an old Tony Stewart quote. In 2004 (back when Fox was still good), Tony called Fox "The Fantasy Island" of Nascar coverage. I can't imagine what he thinks of them now. 204. Jarrett88fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The gen 6 cars require taller spoilers before the Firecracker 400 at Daytona or these superspeedways this year are outta here. 205. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Talladega has been okay today MUCH better than expected but the Firecracker 400 will be excruciating. Not that last year's race was any good until the final 20 laps though. 206. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) We should have known. 207. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Oh. My. God. This truly is The Waltrip Network. 208. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'd say I perfect name for FOX's NASCAR coverage, also a show about an island, would be 'LOST.' I've never seen a motorsports broadcast so all over the place. 209. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) LOST in the Hollywood Hotel. 210. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Why do I get the feeling that next year Larry McReynolds will be put in the Hollywood Hotel with Chris Myers and Michael Waltrip will be moved up to the booth with Darrell? 211. Jarrett88fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) FOX is the Plan 9 From Outer Space of Sports Broadcasting... 212. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Both Waltrips in the booth: Motorsports Hell 213. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The only way it could be worse is if Michael and Darrell had another brother just like them who raced in NASCAR and became a commentator... Oh dear. I think I just described what FOX broadcasts are like in an alternate universe. 214. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) My all time list of best Nascar Coverage Providers: 1. Old School ESPN 2. MRN 3. NBC (2001-2004) 4. 90s TNN 5. TNT (2007-present) 6. PRN 7. Fox (2001-2007) 8. Our Racing Reference channel that we keep saying we are gonna make. 9. BSPN (2007-present) 2,347. TWN (The Waltrip Network) 215. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "My all time list of best Nascar Coverage Providers:...2,347. TWN (The Waltrip Network)" You mean, it is actually on the list of the best? 216. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Funny you don't mention CBS, a lot of people of course remember the great commentary and production value HOWEVER most people forget the final laps of races getting automatically cut and sent to ESPN or other cable the minute a basketball game started or of course the constant local pre-emption of races (outside the South) for Local running races, Baseball, Gay Pride Parades, Bingo and Political Rallies on Local CBS Stations. 217. AveryNH posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) No love for CBS murb?? 218. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Funny you don't mention CBS" I would sort of combine CBS with TNN, since they used a lot of the same people and had similarly good coverage. 219. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) But TNN never had the same issues I just mentioned. 220. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Too bad TNN is SUCK TV today (Spike) 221. AveryNH posted: 05.05.2013 - 3:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Personally my all time favorite was the late 90's TBS line up. Allen Bestwick, Buddy Baker and Dr. Dick. Between that and TNN with Eli Gold and if course old school ESPN. Nobody beats Bob, Benny and Ned. 222. Kenny posted: 05.05.2013 - 4:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @220 I like the powerblock showes 223. Benjamin Lowe posted: 05.05.2013 - 4:00 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) In the words of Bender from Futurama NASCAR on Fox can bite my shiny metal ass. 224. Kenny posted: 05.05.2013 - 4:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The waltrip network XD 225. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 4:01 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Every time I think of SPIKE TV I shudder thinking of that MANswers show...Urgh! 226. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 4:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'd like to see my man Aric get up there and contend for his first career win. He's been up front pretty much all day. 227. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 4:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) How the hell did Paul Menard get 3 laps down? 228. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 4:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Spike actually had some Champ Car races in about 2004 or so. And I think they actually did pretty decent covering it. 229. John Royal posted: 05.05.2013 - 4:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I liked Jackie Stewart as a commentator. Oh well. 230. Destroyahirismix666 posted: 05.05.2013 - 4:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I got a feeling. whoo-hoot That we might go back to racing that we might get back to racing that we're going to go back to ra-a-cing I got a feeling whoo-hoot 231. Destroyahirismix666 posted: 05.05.2013 - 4:09 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) And I got a feeling that no one here wants to here the BoB flap her jab. 232. Mr X posted: 05.05.2013 - 4:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Why is it the keep talking about Danica Patrick's amazing 20mph save while her onboard camera clearly shows Jamie Mac making a much more impressive save at 100mph+. Also does anyone know if Jeff Gordon will get the free pass on this caution? 233. AveryNH posted: 05.05.2013 - 4:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I vaguely recall champ car on Spike. I also remember some races on CBS towards the end of their run. Both of course were owned by Viacom at the time. I think Ralph Shaheen or Rick Benjamin as the head commentator. 234. Destroyahirismix666 posted: 05.05.2013 - 4:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) JJ Yelew: Wanna get a top 10 so kids can eat free tommorow at Golden Corral. 2011 Kevin Harvick: I'm gonna have nightmares about 'Kids Eat Free'. 235. Mr X posted: 05.05.2013 - 4:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "They keep talking" 236. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 4:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) No, I think Josh Wise got the free pass. I have a feeling Gordon is going to stay a lap down for the rest of this race. You'd think the way FOX keeps talking about Danica's save that it was the single greatest save ever in NASCAR history. 237. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 4:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Plugz interview. 238. The Long Shot posted: 05.05.2013 - 4:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) So pissed right now. I had things all set to record today's race, and all I had to do was to auto-tune Fox. Well, DirecTV for whatever reason never actually switched the channel from ESPN to Fox, so when I turned the TV on to check on the recording, I found ESPN carrying a high school football game on instead. Even weirder still, when I tried to change it to Fox, DirecTV came up asking me whether I wanted to over-ride the auto-tune that I had set earlier, even though the auto-tune had never actually been carried out. In the end, I'm left with 4 hours of some random high school football game and absolutely no race footage. Sigh, I love technology. 239. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 4:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wow, Denny Hamlin still expects to make the Chase... 240. joey2448 posted: 05.05.2013 - 4:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ooh, that sucks Long Shot. Sorry to hear that. I've made that mistake before, back in the day when I used to record the races on VHS tapes. 241. Destroyahirismix666 posted: 05.05.2013 - 4:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The Good news is that, allthough their is no audio for those games, if you post the stuff on youtube, people will actually watch that! 242. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 4:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The rain is back. And this time it's serious. I get the feeling this race is about to be over. 243. The Long Shot posted: 05.05.2013 - 4:32 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "...back in the day when I used to record the races on VHS tapes." Actually, I still do. I don't own a DVR or anything like that, so I still use VHS tapes. They're rather inefficient, but they get the job done (usually). 244. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 4:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It's like the racing gods want us to hear more of the Waltrips rather than see anymore racing... 245. joey2448 posted: 05.05.2013 - 4:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Call me over-optimistic, but I still think even if this rain cell hits the track, there will still be enough time to finish this race. Right now it's about 3:30 local time at Talladega, and sunset is about 7:30. 246. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 4:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) They're calling for hail. That's not a good sign. 247. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 4:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) DDDDDEEEEEEEEAAAHHHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGHHHHHHHH!!! 248. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 4:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Good news: This is the last and short system Bad news: "Itsa Gunna be a heavy" 249. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 4:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Damn, I miss old Nascar. 250. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 4:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If FOX has gotten this bad over the past 10 years...can you imagine what they'll be like in 10 more years? 251. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 4:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Apparently, there are still some fans sitting in the frontstretch grandstands. Contrary to popular opinion, there IS a fine line between brave and stupid. 252. Rusty posted: 05.05.2013 - 4:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I really hope they can finish this, having Talladega shortened by rain seems lame to me. 253. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 4:47 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Some Dumbass fans at Talladega, how much money you want to bet if they get killed by lightning their families will sue the track. 254. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 4:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) There's EASILY enough time to finish this, the question is will they do it. 255. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 4:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Murb, since 1997 the races at exciting tracks were usually exciting and the racing at boring tracks was usually boring. Not much as changed in that respect, whats changed is we've lost dates at exciting tracks and gained ones at boring tracks. 256. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 4:51 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) David Caraviello just tweeted: "Rain has stopped. Dryers are rolling. Air Titan is stirring. We may not be done yet." 257. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 4:52 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Darlington 2003 and Atlanta 2011 were easily the best races of the 21st century. 258. Destroyahirismix666 posted: 05.05.2013 - 4:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I agree with TeamPlayersBlue. But I would also add 2010 Talladega spring and 2010 Daytona 500 259. Destroyahirismix666 posted: 05.05.2013 - 4:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ANd I still believe we will get the rest of this race in. 260. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.05.2013 - 5:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Notice anything missing from that Top 10? Cookie cutter tracks. Plate races, as well as wonderful cameos from Rockingham (no longer on the schedule), Darlington (only one race, down from two) and Atlanta (down to one race from two). And that didn't even include any of the insane Martinsville finishes. 261. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 5:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I, me, I, me, I, me." - Michael Waltrip Yeah, I think we can get back to racing. Hopefully it holds off long enough for them to get the track dry. If they could get yesterday's race in, they can get this one in. 262. Bronco posted: 05.05.2013 - 5:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Praying that they get the full race in. 263. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 5:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If they go racing again, watch FOX opt to show Animation Domination instead. 264. Destroyahirismix666 posted: 05.05.2013 - 5:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hell froze over. My local fox affiliate showed something from SPEED. Also, DSFF, back when they did it in 2010 *I think*, the rated the 2007 Spring Texas event seventh of something. 265. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 5:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) NASCAR gets better ratings than animation domination so maybe there's a chance. 266. 12345Dude posted: 05.05.2013 - 5:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) FOX knows there is going to be rain. Instead of the single file racing everyone is going crazy. What does fox do they cut to 10 minutes of commercials. And no side by side either. We miss the pass for the lead for the end of the race. Why aren't more people upset about this? I can't take fox coverage anymore. I can't take dw anymore. I'm so angry. 267. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 5:15 pm Rate this comment: (5) (0) Darrell and Michael Waltrip need to go on the track and blow the hot air coming out of their mouth on the track it will be dry in no time. 268. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 5:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Apparently the track is drying unusually fast. 269. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 5:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I must say, I don't usually drink the NASCAR laced KOOL-AID but the air titan is one of the few hyped things that's actually lived up to it's name and helped the sport. 270. 12345Dude posted: 05.05.2013 - 5:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @ post 250 The main guy in charge of fox about a year ago said he loved the commentary currently provided by NASCAR on fox and said he had no attention of changing it any time soon. I remember hearing about this while listening to NASCAR Sirius radio. Buddy Baker even made a groan lol. 271. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 5:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Apparently the track is drying unusually fast." That is because of one of the very few things NASCAR has gotten right in recent years, the Air Titan. 272. WinstonCup4Ever posted: 05.05.2013 - 5:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @243: I still do as well The Long Shot. I just did with Saturday's Toyota Owners 400 because I was at Prom. Had a great time with my girlfriend. It was a night I will never forget. Only my fourth Cup race I have on tape this year. The others are: Daytona 500 Subway Fresh Fit 500 Kobalt Tools 400 Also for Cup I have Speed's Daytona 500 Pole Day wrap up on tape and then final practice for The Sprint Unlimited. 273. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 5:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Has the FOX feed come on for anybody? WSVN in Miami is showing stupid celebrity crap. 274. AveryNH posted: 05.05.2013 - 5:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I've got two fox feeds, one out of Boston and one out of Vermont both showing the rain delay. 275. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 5:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) They're airing rain delay coverage on my local FOX affiliate. Damn, that sucks for you having to here about the latest Hollywood garbage that half the American population is interested in! 276. WinstonCup4Ever posted: 05.05.2013 - 5:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @264: Same here. The SPEED CENTER update though was only for FOX affiliates that hadn't left to broadcast local news. In my opinion, it does make up for the lost SPEED on FOX coverage ever since F1 went to NBC SN, CNBC, and NBC. 277. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 5:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) What a farce the Morons in Miami may not even show the race. 278. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 5:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Has the FOX feed come on for anybody? WSVN in Miami is showing stupid celebrity crap." Yeah, mine is. They're just showing some Clint Bowyer segment though, so they're still drying the track. It should be a little while more before we get back to green. 279. cjs3872 posted: 05.05.2013 - 5:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Murb, it's interestng that you didn't mention CBS or ABC back in the 70s, 80s, and early 90s, with guys like Jim McKay, Keith Jackson, Bill Flemming, Jim Lampley, Jackie Stewart, Sam Posey, and later Benny Parsons and Bobby Unser for ABC and Ken Squier, David Hobbs, Ned Jarrett, Brock Yates, and later Neil Bonnett doing the job for CBS, and Larry Nuber and Chris Economaki working the pits for both ABC and CBS, and were joined in pits by the likes of Gary Gerould, Jack Arute, Jerry Punch, Mike Joy, Dave Despain, and others. In fact, I think one of the most underrated NASCAR commentating teams, because they didn't do very many races, was the ABC booth team of Paul Page, Benny Parsons, and Bobby Unser, because I think they really worked well together. I also thought that Sam Posey was a better analyst for NASCAR than a lot of people gave him credit for. Back then, Posey was an analyst for every type of racing ABC did, even sprint car racing, but although Posey did a pretty good job as an IndyCar analyst, I think he was better than many gave him credit for as a NASCAR analyst, and he and Jim Lampley did make a good team on the NASCAR races they worked in the 1980s. I was surprised when ABC didn't put either Sam Posey or Bobby Unser on it's first Brickyard 400 commentating teams, especially Unser since he had worked with Benny Parsons previously. They did add Danny Sullivan to the Brickyard 400 team in 1996 and stationed him where they stationed Bobby Unser in the mid-90s, on top of the turn two suites where Tom Sneva had his infamous crash in 1975. (I don't think Sneva would have been bad either in his brief time as an analyst.) 280. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 5:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jeff Gordon is talking about Clint Bowyer with a grin. That is such a buzz kill for FOX. 281. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 5:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Murb, it's interestng that you didn't mention CBS or ABC back in the 70s, 80s, and early 90s" Well, I wasn't around to see those days, so that's why I didn't list them. The ones I mentioned were ones that I've see first hand. But I have gone back and watched some old races, and the old school TV guys definitely deserve a lot of credit for their all out focus on the racing itself and not the reality show stuff that present day Fox is doing. 282. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 5:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) All of a sudden it's pouring rain here in Idaho, so maybe the Talladega rain has magically gone across the country into my neck of the woods in the last hour, lol 283. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 5:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The 1993 Budweiser 500...a race I'm hoping someone will post to Youtube one of these days. 284. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 5:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Of course FOX has to show NASCAR's top 10 feuds to remind us that they LOVE these fights (as if they haven't constantly done that anyways...) 285. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 5:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) lol, Harvick trying to fight Rudd. 286. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 5:47 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) They should have let Harvick go after Ricky Rudd. We wouldn't have seen Harvick racing again until the '04 Daytona 500. 287. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 5:49 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I had forgotten how much of an underrated dick move Spencer wrecking Busch at Indy 2002 was. 288. WinstonCup4Ever posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Dang, FOX should've showed that Rusty/Dale feud from the 1995 Goody's 500 at Bristol. What feud it was in that race. 289. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Miami FOX is such a massive joke. 290. Anonymous0 posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Cleveland Fox just switched to local news. 291. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Are they gonna go racing again? I'm making a rare bar trip with some buddies (drinking a Miller lite, Brad would be so proud). 292. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I hate major markets. 293. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) FOX Wichita is still showing coverage. 294. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:05 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) God bless Wichita. 295. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) So is FOX Columbia, my local FOX affiliate. 296. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I envy you guys with local news, because they are now showing a rerun of this year's Daytona 500. 297. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Now they're showing the ending of the Daytona 500... 298. Benjamin Lowe posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Just go to the Bar DSFF you'll have a much better time there than watching this poor pitiful excuse of a race. 299. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I finally found a feed from Premiere Sports in the UK. 300. Anthony posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm glad the sun is out not only at Talladega but here in Florida! No more Rain! WOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! I'm bord BTW Jeff has just been in a struggle this year. Wait till Darlington Raceway Jeff Gordon will absolutely dominate "The Track Too Tough To Tame" won 7x but his best finish since last win...... 2nd so he has a better chance than anyone else to win Darlington! Here's the question: Will Jeff Gordon this year make the chase or fall? 301. hurryupandturnleft posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Fox here in Lexington, KY is still hanging tough. Replaying the last 28 in Daytona...lol..least we're gettin some racin'! 302. John Royal posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It is getting late in Europe, I wonder if they going to start this thing in next few hours... 303. Benjamin Lowe posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:20 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I think we have used just about every word in the dictionary to describe how bad NASCAR on Fox is haven't we. 304. Destroyahirismix666 posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) At 5 here in Kansas, our fox affiliate dropped the race and switched to local news. I have a feeling our local affiliate will saw 'screw you' to the race and stick with Animation Denomination. Yes, I spelled that wrong intentionally. 305. AveryNH posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The Boston fox 25 station ditched out for news while the Vermont Fox 44 sticking it out with the 500 re run. 306. 83andJoe posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) According to Jayski's, restart time is anticipated to be between 7pm and 730pm Eastern. 307. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That debris HAD to be legit. Oh wait... 308. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well, they just uncovered the cars on pit road. Sweet. 309. WinstonCup4Ever posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) About to go back racing!!! 310. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:27 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) "I had forgotten how much of an underrated dick move Spencer wrecking Busch at Indy 2002 was." I'm glad you mentioned this. Everyone seems to just remember Kurt Busch giving Jimmy Spencer the ol' bump 'n' run at Bristol '02, pointing at Spencer and patting his butt in reference to the classic short track signal that means "go to the back" (which a lot of people misinterpreted as Kurt telling Spencer to kiss his ass), and then the infamous attempt to flatten Spencer's tire at Michigan '03. Yet, there were two common denominators in that feud, and while one of them was Kurt Busch (and his actions at Michigan '03 were inexcusable), the other was Jimmy Spencer, who seems to have gotten away clean on that whole feud and earned a measure of sympathy from the fans because he was the only penalized by NASCAR at any point in that feud, and that was for an off-track incident. Spencer dumped Kurt at Phoenix '01, Kurt gave Spencer a classic bump 'n' run move while trying to win his first Cup race the next spring at Bristol, and Spencer decides to dump Kurt and send him hard into the outside wall at Indy very early in the race. And it's not like he ran Kurt down in order to dump him, he let Kurt pass him and then dumped him like an asshole as soon as Kurt began to slow down in the next turn. Yeah, Kurt hasn't done himself any favors by some of his actions over the years (pit road incidents at Martinsville '03, Dover '07, and Darlington '12; lowering himself to Jimmy Spencer's level by trying to flatten his tire at Michigan '03; driving off while safety workers were tending to his car at Talladega '12, etc.), but a lot of times he's merely reacting to other drivers driving like assholes around him (Spencer from '01-'03, Stewart from '07-'08 and '13, Johnson from '09-'11), and like a man he's going to stand up for himself. He doesn't race like he thinks he owns the race track, run people over just because of his past champion's status, or whine and complain about it afterwards in his interviews. But he isn't going to be anyone's bitch out on the race track, and if he does something regrettable and/or stupid in retaliation to drivers like Spencer, Stewart, Johnson, or even Gordon at Martinsville '10, at least he was doing so in response to the way they were racing him and he decided that he wasn't gonna put up with their crap. Even though he's hurt his public image by doing so, I can respect his fortitude and the way he stands up for himself, even if he winds up looking like an ass to fans who don't mind when other drivers do the same thing. 311. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Car covers being removed. 312. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:29 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Avery, that's why Id love to live in smaller markets. 313. Destroyahirismix666 posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) My FOX affiliate, I'm afraid, won't show the race if the cars are really being uncovered. 314. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:33 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "We'll be back for the green at Dega in a few moments, but first, let's watch Greg Biffle contently finish 2nd in the Daytona 500." - Fox 315. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:35 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) 90% of Local 'news' in America: Somebody was killed or terribly injured 316. AveryNH posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The Vermont/New Hampshire market is probably one of the smallest. Guess I'm lucky. Boy wonder who wins the 500!!! Haha 317. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) NUTS!!!!!! 318. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:37 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) David kick to the balls count: 1 319. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) My local news almost always consists of meth-heads robbing convenience stores and high school sports highlights, with a few national headlines thrown in. 320. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) WSVN Miami still saying the same crap they showed when the rain delay started. 321. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Our local news is...sadly, not much different from murb's. With the occasional murder or violent beating thrown in as well (South Carolina has a pretty damn HIGH rate of crime). 322. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Is it really necessary to air post Daytona 500 interviews? My goodness, Fox just keeps one upping themselves. 323. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Right on, drivers back in their cars... 324. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:42 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) South Florida is the dump of the United States. 325. joey2448 posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Boy it feels like forever since we've seen racing today...LET'S DO THIS!!! 326. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Our local news is...sadly, not much different from murb's. With the occasional murder or violent beating thrown in as well (South Carolina has a pretty damn HIGH rate of crime)." We don't have much crime or violence, just a lot of weirdos and close minded old white politicians trying to ruin our lives further. 327. Jarrett88fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) What a bizarre weekend of racing... chop the race down to 30 laps and lets finish this. 328. 83andJoe posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) TPB - well, you DO have Mount Trashmore down there... And now for your daily Yes, They Actually Said That moment: back in the 1990s, the landfill in Daytona Beach often spread its reek (and trust me, it REEKED) across I-4 just west of I-95. People complained about it enough that the county finally released a statement on it...saying "the smell is not allowed outside the landfill gate". 329. AveryNH posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It's either house fires or car accidents in VT/NH with your occasional brutal murder. I try to avoid the Boston station. Ever since the Bombing they've been practically Fox News third arm with all their propaganda bull-onney. That aside, it's race time!!!! 330. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:49 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Here in Central Florida is where the real Mount Trashmore is located. I speak, of course, of Disney World. 331. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I actually live right near a giant landfill myself. My family and several of our neighbors are in the midst of a lawsuit against them for harming our standard of living. Probably not as bad as the Daytona Beach dump, but it's pretty bad...I've heard there are pieces of the Twin Towers in there since we get a lot of trash from up in the Northeast... 332. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sounds like they are gonna run quite a few laps under caution to help the drying process even more. I agree JarrettFan, they should just shorten it now. A 25-30 lap shootout sounds good. 333. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Sounds like they are gonna run quite a few laps under caution to help the drying process even more. I agree JarrettFan, they should just shorten it now. A 25-30 lap shootout sounds good." Well, by the time the track is completely dry, it might just be 30 laps to go. 334. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Those cheers are good to hear. 335. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:56 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Gonna need updates. 336. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Montoya's got some electrical problems because of the rain. 337. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Tough break for Montoya, who is now in the garage. 338. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 6:57 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) If Montoya didn't have bad luck... 339. hyperacti posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bobby Labonte will lead the restart! 340. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) One to go!!!! 341. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Montoya's back out. Labonte leads. 342. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Doesn't Labonte have to pit real soon? 343. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bobby Labonte, Regan Smith, and David Gilliland in the top three. That's pretty cool. 344. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm pretty happy about the top three drivers. 345. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Josh Wise is in the top 5 as well. 346. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Brilliant move by Logano. 347. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well, it was nice to see Labonte up front, anyway. 348. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Another commercial less than ten laps into the return of green flag racing. 349. Kenny posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @330 Where in florida are you? I'm from cocoa and when I last lived there I was in PSJ 350. joey2448 posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:15 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) And FOX continues to do their best impression of TNT broadcasting the Commercial 500 at Kentucky presented by Mashed Potatoes and Gravy! 351. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:16 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Kenny, I am from Melbourne. It's a small world, isn't it? 352. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Logano's blowing up. 353. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Joey Logano has an engine problem. 354. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Logano off the pace, on pit road. 355. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) OH. MY. GOD. 356. hyperacti posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Aaaand they're single file. 42 to go. Pack racing tho 357. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:19 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) ///COMMERCIALSonFOX 358. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) About 100 miles left. 359. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Why do I feel a 2006 UAW Ford 500 style finish with Edwards and Stenhouse coming? 360. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jeff Gordon loses the draft. Darn. 361. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It was inevitable for Gordon. 362. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gordon's car cannot draft since he was caught up in that crash. 363. hyperacti posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Let it be known that McMurray's string of cars successfully caught Kenseth's string by running the bottom as opposed to the top. 364. hyperacti posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Mikey is running very strong. He looks like a series regular out there today. 365. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Carl Logano'd himself. 366. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Mr Ed drives like an idiot again 367. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) What a move by Kenseth!! Did you see that?! 368. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:31 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Joe Gibbs is laughing his ass off at Jack Roush right now. 369. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 66.5 miles left. 370. AveryNH posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:33 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) I'm beyond sick of the AT&T commercials. Mater of fact I'm sick of all commercials right now. 371. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Green stops coming. 372. joey2448 posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Matt Kenseth is creeping up on Pete Hamilton's record of most laps led at Dega from 1970. 153 is the record, and Kenseth is at 134 I think. 373. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Swervin' Stenhouse almost took out the orange cone. 374. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Stenhouse gets a pit road penalty. 375. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 17 and 56 with speeding penalties. 376. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Stenhouse and Truex are too fast entering. 377. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Stenhouse too fast entering. 378. JG24FanForever posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:37 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) I love Terry Labonte. 379. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Damn it, looks like Almirola and Terry will be the last two to pit. 380. JG24FanForever posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Stenhouse and Truex are too fast entering." But Johnson wasn't too fast? 381. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Johnson leading?? You've got to be kidding me. 382. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) lol, Michael's own teammates didn't even go with him. 383. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) McDowell hit the wall. 384. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) CAUTION!!! 385. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Michael McDowell into the wall for a caution. 386. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Tough break for McDowell... 387. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:41 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Jeff Gordon gets the free pass! I think... 388. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yellow for McDowell hitting the wall, this will be crazy. 389. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:42 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Jeff gets the free pass!!! 390. poopiepants posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Murb said: lol, Michael's own teammates didn't even go with him. I got a chuckle off that one myself. 391. AveryNH posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Amazing analysis there by DW. I had no clue he blew his right front! Geesch I wonder if we have a green white checker will we have just one due to impending darkness? 392. hyperacti posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 13 to go, under caution 393. Tyler posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Who are you cheering for:) 394. 18fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:45 pm Rate this comment: (2) (2) I hope Kurt wins. 395. joey2448 posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:45 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) Jimmie Johnson is shaping up to replicate what his teammate Jeff Gordon did in 2005 - Win the Daytona 500, spring Martinsville and spring Talladega races...maybe that means Jimmie will miss the Chase this year. 396. Kenny posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @351 No shit! Ill be damned I used to go there a ton growing up I'd love to come back down there and see my old home 397. hyperacti posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Current running order: Johnson-Kenseth-Kusch-Edwards-Bowyer-Waltrip-Ambrose-McMurray-Earnhardt-Stremme-Patrick-Smith-Gilliland-Ragan-Keselowski-Tlabonte-Blabonte 398. Tyler posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @394 Yes 399. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:47 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Jimmie Johnson what a baby. 400. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:48 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Lowe's Uniform Gloves on track WTF?! 401. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "maybe that means Jimmie will miss the Chase this year." Wishful thinking. There was no wildcard back in 2005, but there is now, and Johnson would at least make the Chase as a wildcard with three victories. 402. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:48 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Lowe's Uniform Gloves on track WTF?! 403. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Double post oops. 404. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Lowe's Uniform Gloves on track WTF?!" I think it was debris from McDowell. 405. JG24FanForever posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) My anxiety is rising. 406. joey2448 posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) God I hope these last 10 laps go by without a caution... 407. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Odd Piece of Debris then. 408. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kenny, wherever you are, don't come back. Brevard County is now one of the most dangerous areas in the state. Period. 409. hyperacti posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Restart, 10 to go. Pace car is off. 410. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I am standing!!!!! 411. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Edwards is a dick 412. joey2448 posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) C'MON DAVID STREMME!!! 413. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) C'mon Kenseth! Big money in 24over48's contest! 414. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yeley! 415. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) REGAN!!!!! SWEEP IT!!!!! 416. jabber1990 posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jimmie is going to win 417. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) REGAN SMITH! 418. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) YELEY?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? 419. JG24FanForever posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yes!!! 420. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Check out Smith and Yeley! Regan Smith to the lead!! 421. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Regan in the middle now. Damn. 422. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:54 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) C'mon. Somebody pass that prick Johnson! 423. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kurt Busch upside down. Gnarly. 424. hyperacti posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Airborne. 425. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kurt Busch flips! 426. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:54 pm Rate this comment: (1) (2) These "pack" races are shit. 427. JG24FanForever posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) What the f**k just happened?! 428. AveryNH posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Whale of a ride by Kurt. On top of newman's roof. 429. jabber1990 posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) can they finish this race? we all want to see Jimmie actually legitimatley win this race, instead of being given to him 430. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hope nobody's hurt, you just knew that was coming. 431. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) What's going on? 432. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Good one Stenhouse. Another wreck caused by an USAC driver in two days. 433. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Stenhouse and Yeley caused it. 434. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:56 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Crazy race. Poor Yeley 435. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If it doesn't go green then Kenseth is in lead. 436. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:56 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "What's going on?" Talladega Demo Derby. 437. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (4) Damn that little shithead! He took out Jeff! So much for us getting treated another "Jeff Gordon Never Say Die Moment presented by NRF and DSFF." 438. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Stenhouse tried to make it four-wide, bounced off the wall into Yeley, and Yeley clipped Kurt in the right rear and caused him to barrel roll, landing on top of Newman's car in the process. 439. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kenseth will win this. That car is too strong 440. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:57 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I believe this the first flip by a Gen6 car. 441. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:57 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) David and DSFF kick to the balls count: calculator smoking 442. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:58 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Stenhouse is a tool. 443. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Newman would have been dead as lately as 2007. 444. Kenny posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:58 pm Rate this comment: (1) (2) Turrets guy: AHHHHH SSSSSHHHHHHHHIIIIIIIITTTTT 445. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) WOW!!! Feel so so bad for Yeley and both Labontes. 446. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Great saves by Scott Speed and David Stremme. 447. Bronco posted: 05.05.2013 - 7:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Who's left? 448. hyperacti posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) My goodness, they caught this wreck from EVERY angle! 449. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:00 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) ^The kitchen sink, Bronco 450. poopiepants posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) stenhouse caused that...stupid move. 451. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:01 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "David and DSFF kick to the balls count: calculator smoking" You should have seen my reaction! 452. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Poll: how many people on here will admit to either occasionally using a second name on here or using someone else's name in a trolling prank? 453. hyperacti posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Why are there not roof cams on every car at these races though, darn it. One on Yeley, one on Newman, one on Kurt would have been amazing 454. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) How's Brad? 455. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ^10th and counting down 456. JG24FanForever posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Poll: how many people on here will admit to either occasionally using a second name on here or using someone else's name in a trolling prank?" Guilty as charged. 457. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:04 pm Rate this comment: (2) (2) Newman's a jackass. He thinks its possible to keep these cars from flipping. 458. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:05 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) I've never used any name other than my own. I'll also admit that I've never "thumbs up'd" my own post before. Ryan Newman is one of the few drivers with the balls to say "these restrictor plate races are shit." Amen. Close racing, but I can't stand how many cars get torn up every freaking time. 459. AveryNH posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ouch. Harsh interview by Ryan. 460. Bronco posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Another classic Newman Talladega interview. 461. Tyler posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) GO REGAN!!!!!!! 462. 18fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Will Newman be fined? The way NASCAR has been this year, we don't know. I hope he's not. 463. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yeley came up on Stenhouse because Stenhouse CLIPPED HIM. Douchebag. 464. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Close racing, but I can't stand how many cars get torn up every freaking time." I agree with you, but it annoys me how Newman has to rant about it after every race. He thinks it's possible to keep these cars on the ground at all times, even though a flip crash like that could easily happen on the freeway with a passenger car. Stenhouse blames Yeley for that crash. Once again, Stenhouse is a horse faced tool. 465. Rusty posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:06 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Stenhouse's lack of patience there tore up a lot of good cars. 466. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) DSFF, Brad's in 10th. 467. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) In Newman's defense, it seems that every plate race he's in the right place to get caught up in the big one. 468. Kenny posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @408 I do wanna see cocoa and PSJ and Titusville(I went to HS there)and I DO intend to go to Daytona speedway(that is on my bucket list) 469. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Just one GWC. 470. JG24FanForever posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:08 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Yeley came up on Stenhouse because Stenhouse CLIPPED HIM. Douchebag." It doesn't make sense to make sense;) 471. WinstonCup4Ever posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The Need for Scott Speed. Come on buddy!!! 472. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Cocoa... you mean Cocaine. Titusville is a ghost town. PSJ is the current joke of county residents. 473. hyperacti posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Regan Smith is going to snag this. 474. AveryNH posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I've only gone by AveryNH in my short time commenting on this site. Also never thumbs up my own post. I hardly dislike anyone's posts unless they are blatantly ridiculous. So count me in the minority for those who like the thumbs up/down option. One attempt a gwc. All hell is just waiting to break loose 475. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) COME ON ARIC!!!!!! 476. jabber1990 posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:10 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) I dont want Scott Speed to win, he said in an interview once "NASCAR is just cars going in a circle" do you want to get technical? in F1 they race in a circle too 477. jabber1990 posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:10 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) I like stuff I agree with or find really funny 478. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Edwards for the lead!!! 479. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:11 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) FRONT ROW!!!!!!! 480. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Come on Aric. 481. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:11 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) DAVID RAGAN!!!!!!!!!!! 482. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:12 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) DAVID RAGAN!!!!!!!!! 483. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:12 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) FRONT ROW 1-2 FINISH!!!!! 484. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:12 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) RAGAN?!?!?! 485. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:12 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) FRONT ROW MOTORSPORT 1-2! 486. JG24FanForever posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:12 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) YES!!!!!! YES!!!!! 487. Anonymous posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) DAVID f**kIN RAGAN OH SHIT WHAT 488. hyperacti posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:12 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) OH MY GOODNESS 489. JG24FanForever posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:12 pm Rate this comment: (2) (3) Gordon 11th!!!!! 490. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:12 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) HAVE YOU EVER?!!! 491. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) WTFH! How the hell did that happen!?!?!? 492. jabber1990 posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:13 pm Rate this comment: (12) (1) for all these years we were all "start and park is wrong" well...look what happened years later *gives everyone the finger* 493. NadeauFan91 posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:13 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) BOSS MOVE RAGAN! Awesome finish! 494. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:13 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) I'm also not afraid to admit that I'm in tears of joy after that finish. HELL YES!!! 495. Rusty posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:13 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Front Row 1-2 finish???? Dafuq is wrong with the world right now. 496. AveryNH posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:14 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) That is just awesome. Never in a million years would I have guessed that. Hats off to David Regan. Great win 497. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:14 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) FRONT ROW FRONT ROW 498. 18fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:14 pm Rate this comment: (5) (0) Ragan and Gilliland are both very good plate racers, well deserved finish for them. 499. SlicedSmoke14 posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:15 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) Front Row Motorsports first ever win. This is huge for them as a team. 500. jabber1990 posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) but yes, I was also excited as hell *YELLS AND SCREAMS* YEAHHH!!!! 501. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:15 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Front Row Motorsports was the front row today, excellent 1-2 finish for David Regan and David Gilliland. 502. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:15 pm Rate this comment: (7) (0) The ''Jack Roush is an Idiot 499'' 503. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:15 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) Ragan won for Front Row? I missed that? F**k me! 504. Kenny posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:16 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) All I can say is holy shit this was worth whating all day for 505. AveryNH posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @490- No I have never!!!!! 506. Jarrett88fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:16 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) Front Row Motorsports collectively BoB kick in the groin count: 3,438 Congrats to Bob Jenkins and the small teams. 507. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:17 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) One of the biggest days in NASCAR underdog history that I can think of. 508. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:17 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) The last time I saw David Ragan win a race was the Nationwide race at Talladega four years ago. After missing his Nationwide win at Bristol later that year and his win in the Firecracker 400 two years ago, I'm so happy to witness another win by the second generation racer from Georgia. Jimmie Johnson sounded really excited for the two underdog Davids to finish 1-2 in his MRN interview. Glad it's not just us haha. 509. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:17 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Damn, that's crazy!!! David Ragan is now a multiple time Cup Series race winner. Props to him and the Front Row crew. Now hopefully Gilliland can pull one off in one off here in the Fall. 510. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hey Nico and DSFF, Jeff Gordon finished 11th. Haha. 511. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:18 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Whoever in Vegas bet on Ragan to win this race just got a LOT of money... 512. JG24FanForever posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:18 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) I love seeing a real Southern boy win!!! 513. jabber1990 posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) holy shit, look how dark it is 514. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:19 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Here's a working title for this race: "The Day: Davids vs. Goliath." 515. Destroyahirismix666 posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:19 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Ragan. I'll have to take back what I said about Ragan being talentless. He EARNED this! I will eat my words. And they taste crap! Newman will be penalized, no doubt about it! Never thought Kurt would have flipped. The First restrictor plate race I think we won't get a flip, we do. Go figure. 516. cjs3872 posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And guess what. That also puts David Ragan back in the All-Star Race for the second straight year, as he was in it as a result of his Firecracker 400 win last year. But Carl Edwards has to be thinking, "what do I have to do to win a big race"? He's been beaten by Trevor Bayne, Regan Smith, and now David Ragan. Maybe Edwards is destined to be like Bobby Isaac and Joe Weatherly, who were champions that never won one of the big ones, though Isaac did win the 1971 Firecracker 400. Isaac would have won this race in 1972 if ot for a lapped car giving David Pearson the boost he needed to win. But we know that avid Ragan is not a one-win wonder, though he joins Jimmy Spencer, Sterling Marlin, and Michael Waltrip as the fourth driver to score his first two wins in restrictor plate races. Of those, only Marlin won on a non-plate track. 517. Bronco posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:20 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) The finish and the outcome of the race made all the waiting worth it. Thankfully they didn't just call the race with 1/3 of the laps yet to run. 518. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:21 pm Rate this comment: (7) (0) Didn't BoB say David Gilliland gets too much attention, well he's getting plenty of it now and he freaking earned it. Congratulations Front Row Motorsports on a superb performance!!! 519. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:22 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Aric Almirola is up to 7th in points on the strength of 4 straight top 10 finishes. 520. Mr X posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) So did Fox mention where the race would go once animation domination started, because at 7 Fox went live to the Simpsons, and I missed the finish. Anyone else in the same boat? 521. Rusty posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Does any stat geeks know if a car numbered 34 has won a Cup race before? I can't recall it happening. 522. Jarrett88fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:23 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Bank this: Gilliland finished second which is better than BoB will finish this year. 523. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) They stayed on FOX for my affiliate. 524. Kenny posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And Jr. moved up to 3ed in points thou he finished 17th 525. beau posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:24 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) that was frigging AWESOME. nice to see someone else win for once. only wish gilliland would have won and ragan 2nd, but i will take this over the usual guys winning ANY day. 526. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:25 pm Rate this comment: (6) (0) BoB's ild NWide team won yesterday, her old IRL team won earlier, and the guy who told her to "shut up and race" finished 2nd in this one. LOVE IT!!!!!! 527. jabber1990 posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) oh shit, I just saw a political ad...already I only said it on here becasue it was squesed between the end of the race and a Kentucky Speedway commerical 528. Anonymous posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:25 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Looks like Front Row Motorsports.....has the front row positions. 529. 83andJoe posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:26 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) >Does any stat geeks know if a car numbered 34 has won a Cup race before? I can't recall it happening. This is the third win by a car #34, the previous wins being in NASCAR's very first Strictly Stock race by Jim Roper at Charlotte Speedway in 1949, and by Wendell Scott at Jacksonville's Speedway Park in 1963. 530. Jarrett88fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:26 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Awesome group of winners this weekend. Hinch, Regan Smith, and David Ragan. 531. beau posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) and BTW, i just looked it up, the #34 has won twice before, with jim roper, who won the very first race, and wendell scott. pretty good company, i say. 532. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:27 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) "Does any stat geeks know if a car numbered 34 has won a Cup race before? I can't recall it happening." The #34 car has won twice before, and both were all-time firsts in NASCAR. Jim Roper won the very first NASCAR race in 1949, and Wendell Scott became the first African-American driver to win a NASCAR race at Jacksonville in 1964, both while driving the #34 car. HISTORY. 533. 83andJoe posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:27 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) I'm surprised (not really) that the F(ox)-Troop didn't mention David Stremme taking temporary custody of the Jimmie Johnson Special Golden Horseshoe today, being square in the middle of BOTH wrecks and making it through the first one with only minor damage and the second with none. 534. beau posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 83andjoe beat me to it. 535. Cornbread posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:27 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Rusty, you asked about if the #34 had won before. It has now won three times in 795 Sprint Cup races. Wendell Scott was the last driver to win in the #34 in 1963 and Jim Roper won the first Cup race ever driving the #34. 536. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Aric Almirola is up to 7th in points on the strength of 4 straight top 10 finishes." Hell yeah. Every week I find myself pulling more and more for Aric and the 43 team. He's sort of becoming my number one guy. It's fun pulling for a fringe guy like that who can actually get the job done. Oh yeah, I almost forgot... Best Career Cup Finishes David Gilliland - 2nd (twice - one at the tough Sonoma road course in mediocre equipment and one in a plate race in mediocre equipment) Danica Patrick - 8th (once in a plate race in superior Hendrick equipment) 537. The Long Shot posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:28 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) Wow...just wow. An absolutely amazing day for the underdogs: 1. 34-David Ragan 2. 38-David Gilliland 6. 51-Regan Smith 9. 95-Scott Speed 12. 30-David Stremme 16. 7-Dave Blaney 19. 35-Josh Wise 538. JG24FanForever posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) "Does any stat geeks know if a car numbered 34 has won a Cup race before? I can't recall it happening." Wendell Scott! 539. Jarrett88fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This all day baby... "BoB's ild NWide team won yesterday, her old IRL team won earlier, and the guy who told her to "shut up and race" finished 2nd in this one. LOVE IT!!!!!!" 540. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:29 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I should specify that Wendell Scott's win came in the 1964 season, but the win itself came in the year 1963. 541. Peter posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:29 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Way to go David; been a fan of his ever since I meet him, great to see the little guys grab one Teammates for a small team 1-2; these are days true NASCAR'S fans drool over 542. Eric posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) cjs3872, David Ragan didn't win the Firecracker 400 last year. He won the summerDaytona race in 2011. 543. The Long Shot posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:30 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Man, I SO WANTED Gilliland to say, "Take that, talent-less hack who finished 33rd in far superior equipment than what I race in!" 544. RaceFanX posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:31 pm Rate this comment: (6) (0) This is what I love about NASCAR, anyone can win one. You'd never see Caterham F1 have a chance to win but even little Front Row can spank the big boys from time to time. Love the finish. Congrats to Front Row, Bob Jenkins, the Davids, their crews and everyone. 545. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:31 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) "I'm also not afraid to admit that I'm in tears of joy after that finish. HELL YES!!!" I was stunned silly. 546. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Eric, he meant that Ragan's win in the 2011 Firecracker 400 made him eligible for the All-Star Race last year. Ragan's win today has automatically qualified him for the next two All-Star Races because it came before this year's All-Star Race. 547. joey2448 posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:31 pm Rate this comment: (5) (0) That. Is. Awesome. On the final lap, my dad was like, "Who are those guys???" What a race. What a story. It truly was worth eight hours of my day. Some other underdogs also got good finishes, namely Scott Speed. 548. RaceFanX posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:34 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) David Ragan's offical odds to win today before the race: 100-1! "Never tell me the odds" indeed. 549. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:35 pm Rate this comment: (5) (0) David Gilliland says: "Shut up and EAT MY DUST, DANICA!!" 550. joey2448 posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think this is one of the biggest upsets in NASCAR, up there with Brad Keselowski 2009, Trevor Bayne 2011, Greg Sacks 1985, Derrick Cope 1990, Bobby Hillin Jr. 1986, and all the other ones I haven't mentioned! 551. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wow... just wow... this is probably the unlikeliest Talladega win since Dick Brooks back in '73, though no upset will compare with that. 552. Jarrett88fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:41 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Surprised The Long Shot hasn't gone into shock over this finish. 100-1 "Never tell me the odds." - Han Solo to C3PO in Empire Strikes Back one day after May the Fourth. Ahhhhhhh perfect weekend, perfect despite the rain delays and the other stuff. 553. RaceFanX posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Michael Waltrip's first top-5 since the rain-shortened Loudon back in 2008. 554. JG24FanForever posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:42 pm Rate this comment: (4) (1) Refuse to lose!! This is maybe the happiest i've ever been for a finish of 6th-11th for Gordon. 555. Unser1 posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ryan Newman gets to use the so-called 'Newman Bar' safety feature after Kurt Busch does a side-over-side roll in the second Big One and lands on top of him. 556. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:44 pm Rate this comment: (3) (1) Jeff Gordon finishes eleventh after getting caught up in two crashes. (chant) REFUSE TO LOSE! REFUSE TO LOSE! NEVER SAY DIE! NEVER SAY DIE! 557. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:45 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) I chant with you David. REFUSE TO LOSE! REFUSE TO LOSE! NEVER SAY DIE! NEVER SAY DIE! 558. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Brad Keselowski just tweeted: "mad as hell about that finish. We were suppose to line up 10th when the 34 switched lanes entering 3 before green. That lane won. BS" 559. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:46 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I sort of want to retract my earlier statement that I made about Newman. I thought he was complaining about cars getting upside down again, when in fact he was actually just complaining about plate racing in general. Unfortunately, NAPCAR (National Association of Politically Correct Asshole Robots) will probably penalize him for that interview. I'm watching Victory Lane on Speed, and apparently there are a bunch of other upset drivers after this race. I guess we'll see who they are. 560. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:46 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) To the one who thumbs-downed JG24FanForever, we're sorry you're driver's a hack compared to Jeff. 561. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:47 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) *your 562. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:47 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I think Ragan is ahead of BoB in points now! 563. Jarrett88fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) For a millisecond with two laps to go on the backstretch, Almirola in the Petty blue #43 came up on the outside and I thought how freaking awesome to witness the first win since Martinsville '99. If that team can maintain their consistency with other teams testing Chase race setups in the summer, Aric Almirola can make the Chase. 564. Anthony posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:49 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) 34 was the first number to win in NASCAR In '49 when Jim Roper won it at Charlotte. Wendell Scott also won it in 1964. 49 YEARS LATER David Ragan brings Bob Jenkins to victory lane!!!!!!! A little team can do big things what you saw right there! 565. Kirk posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bob Jenkins goes from 403/0/2/4 (starts/wins/top 5/top 10) to 406/1/4/6 in one weekend. That is beautiful. 566. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:50 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Awesome group of winners this weekend. Hinch, Regan Smith, and David Ragan." Don't forget Frank Kimmel in the ARCA race on Friday. 567. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:50 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) I honestly don't consider this to be AS MUCH of an upset as some of the other ones that have been mentioned, mainly because Ragan is a proven Cup Series winner on the plate tracks. I would liken this win more to maybe Bobby Hamilton winning this race in 2001 in a mediocre Andy Petree car, rather than some of the other ones like Hillin, Cope, or Bayne. 568. The Long Shot posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:50 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) THIS is the reason why I haven't missed a Talladega race since I first started watching NASCAR (way back in 2008), and THIS is the reason why I think Talladega should be the first race and the last race of the NASCAR season. Daytona is alright, but it doesn't hold a candle to Dega, and Homestead? Give me a break. When's the last time there was an exciting race at that track? Dega for life, baby! 569. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:52 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) See what I mean about Brad talking too much? Can't even be happy for an underdog victory, and now he's gonna be in the news again for his mouth. What a champion. "we're sorry you're driver's a hack compared to Jeff." He speaks the truth, folks. 570. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:53 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "and Homestead? Give me a break. When's the last time there was an exciting race at that track?" 2011 571. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:53 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) "and Homestead? Give me a break. When's the last time there was an exciting race at that track?" The past two seasons. 572. JG24FanForever posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:53 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) This is just another reason why the Spring-Dega is a Crown Jewel. Matt Kenseth broke Gordon's Spring-Dega single race laps led total of 139 set in 2005,by leading 142 and finishing 8th. Gordon won his though. 573. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:54 pm Rate this comment: (6) (0) Danica whined on NASCAR Victory Lane saying that she wished the race had been rained out. She got taken out in a wreck caused by her own boyfriend. How often has that happened in racing? 574. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Daytona is alright, but it doesn't hold a candle to Dega" I do agree with this. Daytona is all about handling and passing seems to be a rarity now, but Dega is all about speed and cars can actually pass from the top lane. 575. Jon posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:56 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) 3 hours, 26 minutes, 2 seconds. LOL. this along with that 24 hours of pocono a few years back qualify as the longest from initial green to checker in any nascar race that wasn't completely delayed from one day to another. 576. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:56 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) Danica just blamed Yeley for the wreck her horse faced boyfriend caused, and she also said "I wish it would have rained out". GUESS WHAT, BITCH? THAT HAPPENS. GET OVER IT. And I'm a fan of Brad's, but yeah, he needs to stop complaining too. He's just mad because of all the penalty/appeal stuff that's been going on lately. 577. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:57 pm Rate this comment: (1) (2) "Matt Kenseth broke Gordon's Spring-Dega single race laps led total of 139 set in 2005,by leading 142 and finishing 8th. Gordon won his though." That's what separates the Matt Kenseth's of the world to the Jeff Gordon's. Kenseth had the best car, but couldn't win this race because he didn't use the draft effectively at the very end, when it matters most. David Ragan did, and that's why he won this race. 578. Tyler posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) According to Jayski @521, the 1st nascar race ever in 1949 had Jim Roper winning and Wendell Scott won his only cup race in the #34 in 1963. 579. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:59 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Even Kahne and Harvick are happy about Ragan's win. Brad, please shut your mouth and move on to Darlington. 580. Smiff_2 posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:59 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) I don't even know what to SAY right now....lol What....a.....finish. Front Row 1-2? F***ING AWESOME! 581. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) When Kevin Harvick and Kasey Kahne are congratulating an underdog on a great victory, while a living underdog in Brad Keselowski cannot, I lose all faith in the latter driver. 582. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 8:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Matt Kenseth broke Gordon's Spring-Dega single race laps led total of 139 set in 2005,by leading 142 and finishing 8th." Not only that, but he did it in fewer laps, too. Kenseth led 142 of 192 (73.96%) of today's race, while Gordon led 139 of 194 (71.65%) in 2005. 583. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Paul, they showed on Victory Lane that Regan was on Brad's outside as they were lining up for the restart when Brad was already lined up in 10th. He did say he was happy Front Row won though which is the only thing that needed to be say. 584. cjs3872 posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:00 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) Yes, I do need to clarify my point. Ragan was in last year's All-Star Race as result of his Firecracker 400 win the year before, and now his victory today, as Paul pointed out, puts him in the next TWO All-Star Races because of it's timing. It also wouldn't surprise me if, with his driver line-up in turmoil, Richard Childress doesn't try to put Ragan in one of his cars. Remember that Jack Roush did not want to release Ragan after the 2011 season, but was forced to beause of lack of sponsorship. And Ragan does something the driver he passed, who drives for Roush, can't do, and that is to come through in a big race when it matters. Carl Edwards has never come up big in a big situation, and he failed again today. The great ones find a way to come up big in the big moments, and Carl has continuously failed to do so, but the list of drivers that have beaten him in these situations have to be particularly galling to someone of his caliber. Trevor Bayne, Regan Smith, and now David Ragan. And speaking of Roush, he has a driver in Carl Edwards who always comes up short, another in Greg Biffle who's geting up there in years, and another in Ricky Stenhouse, Jr., who makes some of the dumbest moves I've ever seen. Think of the Joey Logano incident last year in the Nationwide race at Kansas, and now today, he makes perhaps the most idiotic move of the season, trying to make a hole where there was never going to be one, and takes out about 10 cars and sends Kurt Busch airborne. More than drivers that can win races, which Roush of course has, Roush needs drivers that can excel when the chips are down, and currently, he has none, and until Roush gets one that can excel when the pressure is really on, Roush may never win a big race or another championship for some time. 585. startandparkfan posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #490 NO I'VE NEVER David Ragan may gets the win at talledega. 586. Benjamin Lowe posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:03 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) I left a message on Brad's Twitter page telling him to STFU. 587. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "3 hours, 26 minutes, 2 seconds." The rain delay lasted longer than the actual race. Crazy. 588. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) New14 & 88Fan, David Ragan was restarting 10th and was trying to get to the correct lane (the outside lane), but Brad wouldn't move over for him. Brad screwed up, not Ragan. 589. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Words for the wise: Don't piss off Benjamin "Lord" Lowe. 590. 83andJoe posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #9 sponsor: Stanley Tools/DeWalt (same for all races this year except Fontana) #30 sponsor: Lean 1/Bi-Lo #33 sponsor: Circle Sport (bare hood and quarter panels) 591. Jarrett88fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:06 pm Rate this comment: (6) (0) Kimmel gets props too for winning this weekend. "Danica just blamed Yeley for the wreck her horse faced boyfriend caused, and she also said "I wish it would have rained out". GUESS WHAT, BITCH? THAT HAPPENS. GET OVER IT." I just wish someone would tell her the facts, her old Indy car team won today, her old Nationwide team won yesterday, and the driver/team she told off a few weeks ago won and finished second while she wrecked in a crash her boyfriend started. As DX so eloquently put it, "I've got two words for ya..." 592. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:07 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) Danica's a hack too, while I'm at it. 593. epzik8 posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:07 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) This race was so awesome. Even during that three-and-a-half hour rain delay I was able to stay entertained. I never turned off my TV during those more than seven hours that Fox was on the air. There were also two big ones, one with a flip, but there were no injuries. And an underdog won. This is a refreshing break from Jimmie Johnson, Matt Kenseth, Kevin Harvick and some of those other drivers winning every week. Congratulations to David Ragan and Front Row Motorsports. 594. The Long Shot posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:08 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) My bad on the Homestead comments, guys. Nevertheless, I believe that Dega would be a much better end to the season than Homestead would, and this race attests to that. This is a bit off topic, but this is an excellent article that I found about Kurt Busch's "Neil Bonnett Tribute" paint scheme yesterday. Very well written. http://brockbeard.blogspot.com/2013/05/opinion-broadcasters-utterly.html 595. Anonymous posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:08 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Good to see David Ragan win and Michael Waltrip get his first top 5 in almost 5 years. 596. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If that's case then he's just crying over spilled milk, be quiet, sit down and get ready for Darlington Bard. 597. jabber1990 posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) wait a minute were all talking aobut the history of the #34 car and how this was a win by a small team was Jim Roper when he won the first race a small team? was Wendell Scotts race won in a small team? 598. Tyler posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 7 people posted my last comment before me *FACEPALM* 599. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I left a message on Brad's Twitter page telling him to STFU." Are you sure that's all you told him? I kind of want to see the tweet now. 600. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:10 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) "Danica's a hack too, while I'm at it." Danica Hacktrick 601. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:11 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) BoB, Danica Hacktrick...how many nicknames will she pick up during this season? 602. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Just checked the points standings. Ragan has moved past BoB with the win, and she's only 3 points ahead of Bobby Labonte, and 7 ahead of Gilliland and Dave Blaney. Wow. She might finish 30th in points in this year. 603. RaceFanX posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) What does BoB mean? 604. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:15 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Baroness of Backmarkers 605. JG24FanForever posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:18 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Gordon's 436th Top 11 finish with a .623 career average. 20th career 11th place finish. 606. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "What does BoB mean?" The Baroness of the Backmarkers. Just a name The Final Gear and I dreamed up. 607. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:18 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I'm a fan of Brad's, but I really hope he's not getting into Denny Hamlin "Straight To My Head" territory. He really has had a lot of instances this year where he's opened his mouth (the thing after Texas, and now this Ragan lane change thing being the most notable). I hate Hendrick Motorsports, and they deserve to be called out for all of the shady things they've done and continue to do. But I echo what Dale Jr said about Brad after he called them out last year. "Brad's a good race car driver, and I wish he would just focus on that". 608. Jarrett88fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:19 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) It goes without saying, this weekend has been Christmas for BoB haters. 609. TS1420 posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:25 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Pretty good race after starting out crappy with 85% of my favorites being taken out in the big wreck and the two robo-drones dominating. Heckuva finish and congrats to David Ragan, David Gilliland & Front Row Motorsports. The racing at Dega was 100x better than Daytona, but it still has its short-comings (namely the wall of air making dang near impossible for drivers to bump draft). Dega gets away with a bad package because of its 3-4 wide favoring nature while Daytona suffers because of its single file to 2 wide favoring nature. Hopefully NASCAR makes some tweaks to the plate package before the Firecracker 400 or we are probably gonna have a replay of snoozeweeks. Regan Smith could have went with Carl and made something happen for himself but somebody must have reminded him who's engine was in the car and who's name was on the side of the car so he decided to jump in line behind Johnson and went nowhere. Carl could have also had a better shot at winning if he stuck with Almirola instead of leaving him out to dry. I was really started to warm up to Keselowski last year but his non-stop b****ing and victim act this season is getting really tiring. It was awesome to see the current drivers of Cancerica Patrick's last two rides both went to victory lane this weekend. SHR needs to take that as a sign. I give the race a 7.5/10. 610. RCRandPenskeGuy posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I just wish someone would tell her the facts, her old Indy car team won today, her old Nationwide team won yesterday, and the driver/team she told off a few weeks ago won and finished second while she wrecked in a crash her boyfriend started." Exactly, and I'm thinking now's a bad time to point out that those rides got a lot better (the #7 Nationwide car certainly did) the second she stepped out of them. She doesn't seem to grasp that wrecks are a part of racing. I was pulling for Regan to win, but seeing the underdog team in Front Row Motorsports finish 1-2 works for me, too. 611. JG24FanForever posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:26 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) This is corny Danica nickname. Mrs Swervin Hackhouse 612. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:28 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Thanks for the link to that article about Neil Bonnett, The Long Shot. Just another example of the NASCAR media (which includes a once legendary driver-turned embarrassing announcer Rusty Wallace) forgetting the sport's history. They'll talk non-stop about Dale Earnhardt losing his life in a crash, but not once do they mention any other driver who lost their life, whether it be a big name driver (Bonnett, Fireball, Weatherly, Lund) or a small name driver (Irwin, Adcox, Roper, McDuffie, Orr). And for those same people to mock the colors of James Finch's race car, painted in memory of his late friend Neil Bonnett at Bonnett's home track, is totally inexcusable and downright disgusting. I'm really disappointed in Rusty Wallace and the fact that he never mentioned the significance of that paint scheme, since he raced against Bonnett for years on the Winston Cup circuit. It just goes to show you that the puppet strings came on as soon as he signed his soul over to ESPN. Pitiful. 613. The Final Gear posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:32 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) So that David Gilliland guy gets way too much media attention already... He's going to be getting a lot more for the next week 614. Kidattheend posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Paul Menard 8th in points despite his first non lead lap finish! 615. BON GORDON posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:33 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) The happiest I've ever been over an 11th place. That was Jeff Gordon and the #24 team at their finest. Got in a couple incidents that put them a lap down and damaged their car and still salvaged something out of it. They need to start getting Top 5s and a win or two. If they do make the chase this will be one of the races they look back on and nod their heads. Great job today for surviving Talladega! 616. BON GORDON posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:37 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) To post 582....He may have broke Jeff Gordon's laps led record but he didn't win...the most important part obviously. 617. The Final Gear posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:39 pm Rate this comment: (5) (0) Just saw BoB's interview after the race, how much of an ignorant skank can she be? "Somebody came down and clipped me and took me in the wall" No, you went up and overreacted just like you did in the N'Wide race at Daytona last year (July) and you wrecked again. Terry didn't go down on you, you ran him into the wall because you don't react to wrecks very well. I'm done with this "I didn't do anything wrong attitude", at least Newman has a bone to pick with NASCAR about these races but this entitlement attitude that Danica carries is really starting to piss me off. 618. chriswo posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:41 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) nice to see an underdog team ans driver take a win, congrats David on your win 619. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:41 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I am utterly convinced BoB believes that everyone should just move the hell over for her because she's Danica Patrick and the media loves her. 620. JG24FanForever posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:44 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Terry didn't go down on you, you ran him into the wall because you don't react to wrecks very well." Her new nickname is Panica Hacktrick:) 621. Scott B posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "was Jim Roper when he won the first race a small team? was Wendell Scotts race won in a small team?" Yes and yes. The team Roper won for made only 7 total starts in NASCAR's top series. Although, in 1949 it was pretty much all small teams. Wendell Scott's win came in his own car (most of his starts were as owner/driver), and he ran without factory support and very little other sponsorship though his career. 622. cjs3872 posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:50 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) There are a lot of posters comparing Jeff Gordon's run in this race in 2005 to Matt Kenseth's today, and the fact that Gordon won that race and Kenseth not winning it, but there's one BIG difference. That difference is that the restarts back then were single-file and the restarts were double-file today. that meant that Gordon had a tangible advantage on every restart, including the GWC in that race in 2005, but Kenseth had no advantage, and if anything, was at a disadvantage. If they had single-file restarts, I think Kenseth wins this race, hands down, but because of the double-file restarts, he always had someone beside him. Kenseth may have had the lead on the GWC restart, but he never really led it at any time, because there was someone beside him, so Kenseth never really had the advantage of leading. 623. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:51 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) What's really cool is that former Atlanta Braves great Chipper Jones gave the command to start engines, and Georgia native and Braves fan David Ragan went on to win this race. Also, I want to make a correction about what I said in post #588. I said that Ragan was supposed to restart 10th, but I confused that for the previous restart. He was actually supposed to restart 8th, but Brad, who was restarting 10th, somehow got to the inside of him and wouldn't let Ragan reclaim his spot in line. Brad was still wrong about his statement, but I wanted to correct what I said previously as to where they were trying to restart. I'm ready for Danica to leave this sport and take her pompous, undeserved self-entitled attitude with her. Blaming a 2-time champion, 22-time winner named Terry Labonte for your inability to hold a steady wheel and maneuver your way through a wreck without taking anyone else out? Man, when you start blaming Terry Labonte, arguably the greatest clean race car driver in NASCAR history, for your own shortcomings, you've officially gone to the bottom of the barrel and have no more credibility whatsoever. 624. Anonymous posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (9) They need a rule that after a couple of hours they call the race. It's ridiculous to have to wait idk how many hrs to get the race restarted, and the audience isn't interested after all that. 625. JG24FanForever posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) "Gordon had a tangible advantage on every restart" Gordon passed Waltrip on the outside without any assistance to make the races winning pass. Single file restarts wouldn't have helped Kenseth at all because of the nature of the racing in this event. 626. AnonymousEFR posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Impressive run by Yeley, but it wasn't meant to be... 627. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Danica just does no wrong. It's never her fault. Everyone is against her. She just doesn't make mistakes. I'm really sick and tired of this attitude of hers. Sadly, more than a few other drivers have a lot in common with her... 628. Jarrett88fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Another Danica title, Her Highness, the Queen Bitch of Bottom Feeders. Especially after trashing Terry Labonte... you're outta here!!! 629. JG24FanForever posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Panica panicked and took out Terry Labonte and blamed it on Terry? Swervin Hackhouse causes the Big one #2,and it's Yeley's fault according to Panica? 630. Bronco posted: 05.05.2013 - 9:59 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) So is Matt Kenseth's 8th place finish after leading a near record number of laps and finishing behind two Front Row cars, one Phoenix car and one semi retired driver considered a choke? The last time that a driver led triple digit laps at Talladega was Jeff Gordon in the 2005 spring race, and Dale Jr in the 2002 spring race before that and both of them pulled off the win. 631. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 10:02 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) "Man, when you start blaming Terry Labonte, arguably the greatest clean race car driver in NASCAR history, for your own shortcomings, you've officially gone to the bottom of the barrel and have no more credibility whatsoever." Yep. 632. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 10:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) You know what, I do think it was a choke, and it has to do with Kenseth losing the lead to Carl Edwards (who was driving like a mad man all race) coming to the white flag, and then not being able to pass Edwards even with help from Ford drivers Ragan and Gilliland. And for Ragan and Gilliland to go on and pass Edwards for 1st and 2nd going down the backstretch and coming to the start/finish line, and for Kenseth to wind up all the way back in 8th, it just goes to show you that he could have won the race, but couldn't make the correct pass at the right time. The fact that Ragan and Gilliland beat Edwards in Front Row equipment, while Kenseth not only lost the lead, but couldn't pass Edwards back even with a lot of help from the two Davids, is very telling. Perhaps Kenseth isn't as great a plate driver as we all thought. Jeff Gordon would have won that race, and so would Dale Jr. But Kenseth lost, and I do think it's fair to say that he choked on that final restart. 633. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 10:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Did any of you guys see ESPN's little post-race recap on the race today? Of course, BSPN puts a guy who can't even read a teleprompter correctly for their weekly NASCAR segment. Such little respect given towards NASCAR by that network. 634. cjs3872 posted: 05.05.2013 - 10:13 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) And Schroeder51, the attitudes of the drivers today is something that Dale Earnhardt, Sr. warned others about some 15 years ago, because he didn't like the attitudes of some of the drivers that were coming up at that time. He thought they were too cocky and too arrogant. But if it's true that Danica was railing about Terry Labonte, that's something that won't go over to well with many others in the garage area because Terry has the respect of everyone that raced against him, from men like Richard Petty, who's cousin once won a championship with Terry, Cale Yarborough, Darrell Waltrip, and Bobby Allison, to guys like Mark Martin, Jeff Gordon, Jimmie Johnson, Tony Stewart, and many others. If Danica did criticize Terry Labonte, she will hear about that from other drivers, because Terry was one of the toughest copetitors in the sport's history. Those drivers and Dale, Sr., if was alive today, would tell you that Terry was one of the toughest drivers they ever competed against because he wouldn't give you anything. You had to take it from him. And Terry spanned three generations of the sport. It's fitting that we're talking about him as the Southern 500 is coming up, because he won that race twice, and the the drivers who were second in those victories were Kevin Harvick and David Pearson, so his career as a competitve driver really spanned three, or possibly even four generations. Remember that he was leading the Daytona 500 last year until he got dumped. And when he ran his first race, the 1978 Southern 500, he finished fourth, just ahead of Bobby Allison. The three drivers that finished ahead of him were Cale Yarborough, Darrell Waltrip, and Richard Petty (despite three driver changes). An 2006, he almost won at Sonoma, eventully settling for third behind Jeff Gordon and Ryan Newman. And he never gave them anything, they had to take those spots from him. 635. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 10:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) BoB can also stand for: The Baroness of...I don't use that kind of language. 636. Watto posted: 05.05.2013 - 10:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) What got Brad going is literally a failure of communication on NASCAR's behalf. Ragan should've restarted behind Brad but Brad was behind him coming out of the crash, and Ragan ended up letting Brad by just before they got side by side for the restart, so apparently NASCAR let Ragan know that he was, in fact, 10th, and not Brad, but the 2 team never knew. So Brad has a right to be frustrated, cause he had no idea and simply thought Ragan was messing around, but he should've gone to the NASCAR trailer to figure it out rather than post about it on twitter. Because of that, he gets to be the big bad wolf by a bunch of fans who don't even realize the whole situation comes down to the scoring loops when the big wreck broke out. Brad was ahead of the 34 by a few feet and let at the scoring loop, so the order was wrong during caution. NASCAR did Brad absolutely no favors by simply saying "Brad was in the wrong lane". He clearly didn't get the memo coming to 1 to go when Ragan pulled over for him. 637. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 10:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) cjs, I'm just curious. Did Dale Earnhardt ever name those drivers who he saw as cocky and arrogant by name, or did he just sort of speak in broad terms as far as who those drivers were? I have some ideas as to who he was referring to, but I'm just wondering if you, or anyone else, knows if he ever mentioned some names of young drivers whose attitudes that he didn't care for. 638. Daniel posted: 05.05.2013 - 10:21 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) Danica got upset with Texas Terry? Wow....that would means since coming into she's gotten into it with Morgan Shepherd, Sam Hornish Jr., Travis Kvapil, Landon Cassill, David Gilliland, and Terry Labonte. When have problems with those drivers, it's not them, it's you. 639. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 10:23 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "So Brad has a right to be frustrated...but he should've gone to the NASCAR trailer to figure it out rather than post about it on twitter." Bingo. There are two types of drivers nowadays: Those who say it to your face, and those who say it over social media. Brad showed his true colors by not taking it to NASCAR itself, and instead ranting his frustrations out for the whole world to see. 640. The Long Shot posted: 05.05.2013 - 10:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) No problem, Paul. The man who wrote the article has wrote several other pieces, including one about Dave Blaney's near-win at Talladega in Spring 2011, one about Regan Smith's Darlington win in 2011, and an interview with a former crew member of the #70 team of J.D. McDuffie to commemorate the 20th anniversary of McDuffie's passing. I can link those to you if you so desire. Just some more information about the author: His name is Brock Beard, and his website is mostly used for writing articles talking about the last-place finishes in NASCAR. He received most of his fame by creating the Youtube Race Starting Grids, which lasted from 2008 to 2011, and by introducing Regan Smith in the Sprint All-Star Race last year. I would highly recommend visiting his website, as it gives much-needed and deserved attention to the underdog drivers. 641. cjs3872 posted: 05.05.2013 - 10:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Paul, he was speaking in general terms. A lot of the drivers that have come up did so after his death, though he did see a few of them come up. In fact, Jimmie Johnson has said that one of his biggest regrets was that he never got to race against Dale, Sr., and I think that a number of drivers that came up just after his passing would say that. In fact, Ryan Newman said that one of his career highlights was qualifying for the race at Phoenix in 2000, because that ended up being the one and only time he raced on the same track with Dale, Sr. on the same day. And speaking of Newman, he sounded a lot like another racing legend during his interview after his crash. Some guy from Houston, Texas named A.J. Foyt, I do believe. That choice comment about NASCAR not being able to keep the cars on the ground was right out of the Foyt playbook. In NASCAR's defense, Kurt Busch's car lifting and going upside down had nothing to do with aerodynmics, but rather rapid weight transfer when he spun. As an ex-sprint car driver himself, Newman should know that because that kind of flip happens in sprint car racing all the time. 642. Destroyahirismix666 posted: 05.05.2013 - 10:32 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Folks, we are stuck with Slamica Pornographic. She ain't going anywhere. I'll just contently smile as she wrecks one out of every three races in the season. I hoe Stenhouse dumps her, because I do honestly believe she'll just drag him down-down-deeper-n-down. Insane racing all day. THIS is Talladega plate racing that I can somewhat enjoy at least. Yes, by far i STILL prefer the Tandems. I wish they never ditched the tandems! But this was a treat of a race. And folks, I can't express enough HOW Excited I am for next weekend at Darlington! I LOVE that track! Race rating: 9.5/10 at least. 643. Destroyahirismix666 posted: 05.05.2013 - 10:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Also, The more I replay the replays of that second big one, the more I am convinced that Newman is in the wrong, but it is something we can allot to him, he probably hadn't seen a replay yet. However, two bets that by tomorrow afternoon, he will have been penalized. With that, I'll see you all later! I enjoyed calling this race with the lot of ya! Night! 644. Schroeder51 posted: 05.05.2013 - 10:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I have tickets to Darlington again this year (like I do every year-unfortunately not the Nationwide race this year, though that might be for the best as it might easily be a Kyle Busch blowout). Seeing that the quality of racing has at least improved since last year, I have faith that this year's Southern 500 will be a much better one than last year. 645. Sector posted: 05.05.2013 - 10:38 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Well Danica needs to learn, that any Cup Champion is way out of her league & need to step away from the issues. She has no right to even criticize any of our greats like Terry or even his brother, Bobby. 646. The Sound posted: 05.05.2013 - 10:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If I remember correctly, Jeff now has 3 11th place finishes this year. Of course. Fontana, Richmond, and Talladega. And his Top Ten total as of now is 2, which looks paltry until you consider how close he has been. Darlington will be key. If he cannot have a Top 5 run this weekend, I am concerned. Oh, and Denny gained remarkably few points today thanks to the crash. He is 76 points behind the Top 20. Honestly, I think he should just have surgery. Yes, he COULD make it, but the Top 20 at this point is not even a guarantee. I believe he would probably make it in, but even then, he would need multiple wins. 647. AveryNH posted: 05.05.2013 - 10:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I never go to Sportcenter for my post race highlights. Their abysmal coverage just makes me cringe. And typically Ricky Craven, who's my favorite driver analyst, is the guy in the studio. That speaks to ESPN's respect given by the hosts. Lindsay Cz... is the only host that has any knowledge or prior connections to the sport and actually gives it respect lie it's baseball, and the constantly overhyped staple, The NFL. I follow her on Twitter. She's still a huge fan, but she always dumbs it down on air. I typically just comply to whatever Speed has on now. Victory lane and a sadly abbreviated and soon to end Wind Tunnel with Dave Despain. 648. joey2448 posted: 05.05.2013 - 10:48 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) "Terry didn't go down on you..." Hehehe 649. The Sound posted: 05.05.2013 - 10:51 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Oh, I wish Dale Earnhardt was still alive so he could speak his mind on drivers like Danica... 650. 18fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 10:55 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) David Ragan now has more career wins than Martin Truex and has more top 5s this year than Tony Stewart. 651. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 10:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Okay, cjs, that's what I figured about what Dale said about the new drivers back over a decade ago. And speaking of Ryan Newman, he might be as old school as they come in NASCAR nowadays. I can tell he's a big fan of NASCAR's history, as seen from some of his interviews and his demeanor. I recall his infamous interview at Talladega in the fall of 2009 after his flip in which he landed upside down on Kevin Harvick's car (basically the opposite of today's wreck with Kurt Busch landing on top of Newman). In his interview, he expressed his displeasure in the rules changes NASCAR made prior to that race, saying that drivers used to be able to respect each other out on the track, and listed NASCAR legends Richard Petty, David Pearson, and Bobby Allison by name, and how NASCAR now tries to restrict what drivers are allowed to do on the track, ending his interview by saying "I guess they (meaning NASCAR) don't respect us anymore." And while Newman may have been in the wrong as far as his criticisms after today's wreck, that was another classic A.J. Foyt-like interview made by a fellow hard-nosed race car driver. When the time comes for Newman to step out of a race car, he would make a great addition to the NASCAR control tower and/or rules committee. Newman's a no-nonsense guy and I think that kind of attitude and demeanor would help add some credibility to NASCAR because they would have someone who not only used to drive a race car working with them, but also one who isn't going to take any BS from anyone else and would add a measure of respectability to the control tower as far as rules changes and penalties. NASCAR needs old school guys like Ryan Newman involved in the sport, whether it be as a driver or in a non-racing capacity. Kyle Petty is another great example of an old school driver who is still involved in the sport, as are his father The King and the Wood Brothers. 652. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 11:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Maybe MWR should go after David Ragan in the offseason. He at least knows how to win a race in this decade, let alone two. 653. joey2448 posted: 05.05.2013 - 11:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I agree, AveryNH, SportsCenter does a terrible job at covering NASCAR races. They never even show highlights of all the exciting/important things that happened in the race. Today, for example, when they mentioned that the race was rain delayed, instead of showing the replays of Johnson getting passed by Stenhouse and Stenhouse subsequently getting passed by Edwards at the moment of caution, they just showed a couple quick seconds of the field being led by the pace car under caution. Of course, they never talk about the good runs that the underdogs had (except Front Row Motorsports today, of course), they only mention where the superstar racers finished, which I understand, but if an underdog has a good finish (say, top-10) then they should mention it. 654. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 11:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "In NASCAR's defense, Kurt Busch's car lifting and going upside down had nothing to do with aerodynmics, but rather rapid weight transfer when he spun. As an ex-sprint car driver himself, Newman should know that because that kind of flip happens in sprint car racing all the time." This is what I was referring to earlier. But overall, I understand Newman's frustration since he is ALWAYS involved in the big one. ESPN's post race SportsCenter coverage is a joke. I remember back to the Bristol Night Race last year. They were interviewing race winner Denny Hamlin, and before they even asked him about his big win they asked him about three questions on what he thought about Stewart's helmet toss at Kenseth. I said it earlier, but this reality show stuff that both BSPN and Fox have been doing lately is getting out of hand. And now with Danica's presence it's getting more intolerable by the week. I can't wait for TNT to take over at Pocono. Yeah, they have a lot of commercials, but they actually focus on the RACING. 655. murb posted: 05.05.2013 - 11:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Maybe MWR should go after David Ragan in the offseason. He at least knows how to win a race in this decade, let alone two." I was reading this thing on Jayski earlier where MW pretty much all but confirmed that Vickers will be in the 55 next year. Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb mistake. There are so many more drivers available who could do just as good and better than Vickers in that car. 656. MStall41 posted: 05.05.2013 - 11:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Probably the best plate race since the 2010 Firecracker 400. Passing was difficult but not impossible, the best cars could get to the front but they could battle it out, and there was plenty of two and three wide action. Plus a surprise winner in the criminally underrated David Ragan, one of the best plate racers in NASCAR. Overall, this race had everything a fan could want. Terrible coverage by FOX though. 657. NewJack posted: 05.05.2013 - 11:09 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Props to Stremme in the 30, was in the middle of both major wrecks, and still ended up 12th. What better way to get a win then having 2 of your drivers finishing 1-2. Think they have as many 1-2s as SHR as well. 658. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 11:13 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "I can't wait for TNT to take over at Pocono. Yeah, they have a lot of commercials, but they actually focus on the RACING." They've also got the best pit reporters, and two non-nonsense color commentators named Wally Dallenbach and Kyle Petty. All they need is a good play-by-play man, and their broadcast team will completely trump their love of commercials. By the way, I re-watched the Talladega finish a little while ago, and boy was D.W. excited for David Ragan or what! We all give him a lot of crap for being a cheerleader and a cartoon character, which he is, but it was pretty cool listening to the excitement in his voice as a perennial underdog took the lead away from a powerhouse team and went on to win the race, which almost matched my excitement that I showed in front of my TV set. If there's one thing that I love about Darrell Waltrip the announcer, it's that he always gives credit to underdog teams when they are having a really good run. Watch him during Cup practice or qualifying on SPEED when they show someone like David Stremme or Travis Kvapil and you'll know what I mean. I can't say the same for other networks and announcers (Remember how disappointed ESPN was when little known driver James Buescher won the Nationwide race at Daytona last year?), but I'm glad that there is at least one redeemable quality of D.W.'s as an announcer on the goofy FOX broadcasts. It's too bad that underdog teams can't run up front more often. 659. David posted: 05.05.2013 - 11:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Why has David Stremme's twelfth-place run not been mentioned more than it has? That is very impressive. 660. Anthony posted: 05.05.2013 - 11:27 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) What makes this race even more of an upset than Bayne or even Regan Smith is that Ragan and Gilliand worked their way to the front rather than avoiding wrecks or staying out. 661. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 11:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Why has David Stremme's twelfth-place run not been mentioned more than it has? That is very impressive." If it's any consolation, he was one of the drivers who I congratulated on Twitter after the race. Darn good run for that team, and Stremme probably would have earned his first top ten finish in almost six years had he not gotten crash damage. And speaking of good finishes by teams with crash damage, how about the driver that finished 11th? Involved in two crashes, spent a large portion of the race one lap down, and comes out of it with yet another solid 11th place finish. Jeff Gordon with yet another "Refuse To Lose" race. Hey NicoRosbergFan (post 437), how does that crow taste? Haha. 662. The Long Shot posted: 05.05.2013 - 11:30 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Not to mention his excitement about Trevor Bayne winning the Daytona 500. That was something to watch. I think that no matter how much flak we give him, old D.W. has his heart in the right place, which is good to see. 663. jabber1990 posted: 05.05.2013 - 11:31 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) whos worse Fox or ESPN? at least Fox remembers they invested Millions into this, ESPN forgets and I brought this up once, but I only got one commment a few days ago Mike Bagley and Pete Pistone (half) joked about a retro MRN broadcast, with Barney Hall, Ken Squire, Jack Arute, Allen Bestwick, and others calling a race on the radio although we have a few unavalabile options who would you want to call a race on TV? if you want to, go ahead and include pit reporters if you are up to it and before you ask yes, you can use dead people 664. 18fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 11:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I would do it without a prototypical "play-by-play" man and my dream booth would be Benny Parsons, Ned Jarrett, and Neil Bonnett. If I had to pick a play-by-play man it would probably be Allen Bestwick or Bob Jenkins, with a slight edge going to Bestwick. 665. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 11:36 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "I was reading this thing on Jayski earlier where MW pretty much all but confirmed that Vickers will be in the 55 next year." Not only that, murb, by Mikey also said "We think that Brian is a future champion of the Cup Series". Please Mikey, just say "We like Brian, and he and crew chief Rodney Childers have great chemistry together," and be done with it. Vickers might be good enough to win a race and make the Chase, but a Cup champion he is not. Heck, he barely won the 2003 Busch Series championship in the most funded car in the series over a field full of Busch-only teams. We've seen Vickers for what he is, and he is not a Cup champion in the making. Sorry MWR. The only true championship-caliber driver in their stable is Mark Martin and he's only running a partial schedule. Bowyer is good enough to finish top five in points, but I can't picture him winning a title, and Truex will be lucky if he ever wins another race. I suppose Vickers and his two Cup wins would make for a decent replacement for Truex, but I wouldn't commit to him in the #55 and think he's going to win a championship. He's just not, end of story. 666. Scott B posted: 05.05.2013 - 11:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Stremme did have a good race, he just picked the wrong week to have it get noticed. Josh Wise, the third Front Row driver, also had a career best of 19th. He was running better than that till he had some problems and got shuffled back right at the end. Still, top 20 is nice for a kid who's had to start and park most of his early Cup career. 667. 18fan posted: 05.05.2013 - 11:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) A team of Vickers, Truex, and Bowyer would be a decent lineup, but not one that I think would bring a title to MWR. 668. Ed posted: 05.05.2013 - 11:41 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) Anyone saying Danica is in "superior" equipment this year: Newman is the high-water mark for SHR 10 races in, at a lackluster 17th in points. SHR is Hendrick's R&D team, so I guess that makes Danica the R&D team for the R&D team 669. MStall41 posted: 05.05.2013 - 11:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Dream team of broadcasters: Allen Bestwick/Wally Dallenbach/Ned Jarrett with Ken Squire in the Infield Pit Studio 670. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.05.2013 - 11:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) In alll fairness to Brad " I'm happy as hell a small team won. Doesn't change the fact that the restart was blatantly wrong." 671. AveryNH posted: 05.05.2013 - 11:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gimmie Eli Gold, Benny Parsons, and Kyle Petty in the booth with Ned Jarret, Jerry punch, Dave Despain, and Dick Berggren on pit lane. And Bestwick, Squirer and Andy Petree in the pit studio 672. Eric posted: 05.05.2013 - 11:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Michael Waltrip is delusional for calling Vickers a future cup champion. I think Vickers could pull off a chase. What happened at Hendrick is a well known fact about the 25 car. The 25 car has the red headed step child at Hendrick for a long time when Vickers was racing that car. MWR has very good equipment, but the drivers are the problem. I see Vickers as a driver that can be good at intermediate tracks, but is a liability at short tracks. I think Clint is their best driver for 2014. Clint is a great plate driver and driver track driver. Clint though is a Terry Labonte type driver. Under today's system, Terry wouldn't have won a cup championship. I think Truex is 3rd tier driver. I honestly think if Ryan was in the 15 instead of Truex, Ryan would have won 2 or 3 races in the last couple years. 673. Paul posted: 05.05.2013 - 11:51 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) The best announce team that I got to watch call races during my time as a NASCAR fan was the old NBC/TNT crew of Allen Bestwick, Wally Dallenbach, and Benny Parsons. Bestwick was the energetic and excited play-by-play guy, Wally was the no-nonsense and no BS color commentator, and B.P. was the big man with an even bigger heart who brought a heartfelt emotional aspect to every broadcast (Remember when he sort of quietly exclaimed "Yes! Yes!" when Dale Jr. won the 2001 Firecracker 400?). Such a great team and one that sadly didn't last very long. Bestwick swapped roles with Bill Weber in either '04 or '05, causing both of them to be out of place, and B.P. sadly passed away in prior to the 2007 season. I think that when Benny died, NASCAR lost its last heartfelt announcer, and as a result there has been a lack of emotion in the announce booth ever since. Just look at Travis Pastrana's head-on crash in the Nationwide race yesterday, and the lack of any sort of emotion from the announcers. I can guarantee you that B.P. would have showed plenty of emotion upon seeing that crash, and also would have brought some perspective as to the dangers of those types of crashes and made us aware of how lucky Pastrana was to make it out under his own power. Instead, we got nothing and then it's like "Oh well, you can't stay sad forever. Pit stops are coming up, let's see who can win the battle off pit road and claim the lead in this race." To me, that's an insult to the drivers who risk their health and even lives every time they step into these race cars by brushing off their wrecks as if they were nothing, and then looking forward to the next big wreck. Damn insulting. 674. cjs3872 posted: 05.06.2013 - 12:08 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well guys, since you're listing guys you would like to see calling races, here's my list. I would have as a broadcast team, either Jim McKay, Ken Squier, Keith Jackson, or even Jim Lampley in the booth with either Jackie Stewart, Sam Posey, Bobby Unser, David Hobbs, or Benny Parsons as expert analysts (pick any two), either Chris Schenkel or Dave Diles in the host position, if you need one, and in the pits, I'd have Chris Economaki, Larry Nuber, Jack Arute, and Brock Yates. That would be my list of commentators I would want. Now I go back farther than most people do but those were the best a calling a race. And note that except for Benny Parsons, there's not one person invovled in the post-2001 era of NASCAR on TV on that list. 675. Paul posted: 05.06.2013 - 12:15 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Okay, I finally got a chance to listen to David Ragan's press conference where he addressed the issue. (In his words) What happened was NASCAR said over the radio "#95, #2, #34" for whose was supposed to restart in 8th, 9th, and 10th place, respectively. For whatever reason, whether it be he just didn't hear it over the radio or if he just refused to move to the inside line, Brad didn't move over for Ragan, which led to Ragan looking like he was trying to line upon the outside of the outside lane. Brad eventually moved over to the inside lane (which if you noticed didn't have a car in it at first because that was HIS lane), and gave the outside lane to David Ragan, which is how they were supposed to line up per NASCAR's radio communications. I'll give Brad the benefit of the doubt that he didn't know he was supposed to line up 9th, although that's hard to believe because the car in front of Brad, Scott Speed, lined up 8th on the outside lane, and it wouldn't make sense for two consecutive cars to line up in the same lane. Nevertheless, I don't think Brad would have taken to Twitter to complain if he knew that he was in the incorrect lane. It makes him look silly and incompetent to not know how to line up correctly, but I don't really have a reason to believe that he lined up incorrectly on purpose. Maybe he did, but I don't know, so I'll just give Brad the benefit of the doubt. But NASCAR made the right call by lining up the #2 and the #34 the way they did. 676. Paul posted: 05.06.2013 - 12:24 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) cjs, picking strictly from the guys that you listed, I would take Jim McKay, Jackie Stewart, and Benny Parsons in the announce booth, and I would have Chris Economacki, David Hobbs, Jack Arute, and Larry Nuber working the pits. I know that you listed Hobbs as a booth announcer, but I remember seeing him working the pits for both NASCAR races and IndyCar races during the '90s and just thought that he was really good working the pits. And considering his experience working the pits, which I'm not sure if Stewart or Parsons had, I would put him down there just because of his past experience working down there. I have to give you some credit for bringing Jim McKay and Jackie Stewart to my attention. I watched some of your videos on the 1973 Indianapolis 500 when McKay and Stewart were calling the race, until Stewart had to leave after the race was delayed due to a racing commitment, but even he had aired some tapes where he was discussing the cars with McKay that were to be aired the next day when the race resumed. I just thought those two were very professional in their mannerisms and the way they conducted themselves and showed a great deal of respect for the drivers on the race track. 677. The Long Shot posted: 05.06.2013 - 12:52 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I wish I knew why in the hell BSPN thought it would be a good idea to put Dr. Jerry Punch in the broadcasting booth. Punch is an excellent pit reporter, but at announcing, he's more out of place than Jimmy Spencer at the 2005 Chevy Silverado 250 winners' circle (yay for obscure Truck Series references!). With that said, my all time favorite broadcasting lineup would have Ken Squier as the announcer, with Ned Jarrett and Benny Parsons as the analysts, and Dick Berggren, Jerry Punch, David Hobbs, and Mike Joy on pit road. Now, my all time least favorite broadcasting lineup: Marty Reid as the announcer, Michael Waltrip and Rusty Wallace as the analysts, and Dave Burns and Krista Voda on pit road. All right, I'm off to bed. Night, all. 678. slowbird posted: 05.06.2013 - 12:59 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Between the Nationwide and Cup races, Talladega Superspeedway should consider putting in some lights around the track as early as tomorrow. Even if they don't have rain next time, they could start angling for a night-time race and get a few teams to run "Talladega Nights" themed paint schemes. That could sell a lot of diecasts. 679. I love Japan posted: 05.06.2013 - 1:46 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) If Michael Curtis Waltrip thinks Brian Lee Vickers can be a Cup Champion he's more deluded then WWE thinking Cena can make their company anything less then crap. 680. Newt posted: 05.06.2013 - 2:22 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Worst NASCAR Broadcast Team: Booth: Darrell Waltrip, Marty Reid, Bill Weber Studio: Brad Daugherty, Rusty Wallace Pits: Vince Welch, Jamie Little, Ray Dunlap, Rutledge Wood Tech: Tim Brewer 681. 18fan posted: 05.06.2013 - 2:25 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Newt, that would be a scary broadcast team to listen to. Weber and Reid are bad enough on their own. 682. murb posted: 05.06.2013 - 2:30 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Not only that, murb, by Mikey also said "We think that Brian is a future champion of the Cup Series"." lol, Yeah, I saw you also reference that earlier in the day. What a joke. I think Michael thinks his organization is a lot better than it really is. Don't get me wrong, they've done a great job of righting the ship and hiring good people over the past couple years. But without Rob Kauffman, Toyota's support, and JGR basically being their big brother, they're a nothing organization. Michael should feel lucky that they are as good as they are. 683. joey2448 posted: 05.06.2013 - 3:27 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Lol good one, Newt! The only guy I actually think is pretty good is Ray Dunlap...the others I don't care for. 684. 83andJoe posted: 05.06.2013 - 4:53 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ray's pretty good as a pit reporter. As an announcer, though...I still have memories of dragging my fingernails over a chalkboard trying to get his high-pitched squeal out of my ears. 685. #15 Rob posted: 05.06.2013 - 5:21 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) #624 May in fact be BoB..... 686. The Final Gear posted: 05.06.2013 - 6:39 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOPxNNiwFH8 Link to the video with some post race reaction. Includes Danica, Newman and Kurt Busch. 687. The Final Gear posted: 05.06.2013 - 6:39 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOPxNNiwFH8 That's the link to the video that I referenced earlier with Danica. Her recollection of the crash is totally inaccurate except the part about the 78. 688. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.06.2013 - 7:07 am Rate this comment: (2) (0) We need to face... one of us could be a better driver than Danica given the same amount of time to acclimate to stock cars. 689. The Final Gear posted: 05.06.2013 - 8:14 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sorry about the double post guys, that "post" was made over 12 hours ago and I thought it was something with my computer. 690. Evan posted: 05.06.2013 - 9:30 am Rate this comment: (2) (0) The race was a horrible one for the coverage. I see a red carpet coming out of the driver's meeting! We're rolling out the red carpet for these guys now? I see Michael Waltrip chatting it up with drivers on pit road, That's a segment?! Then Denny Hamlin gets out of the car and starts making predictions about wrecks, I wish that stuck up prick was not in Mikey's seat. I am happy that Front Row Motorsports won their first race and one-two finish in the same weekend. They did what I have been saying, if cars gang up on the leaders, they are dog meat and they did exactly the thing I thought they were going to do, they got people to gang up and pass them. What an upset by David Ragan and David Gilliland putting Front Row Motorsports in its rightful place. 691. David posted: 05.06.2013 - 10:14 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I was praising David Stremme earlier, but I totally forgot about Scott Speed! How about finishing ninth with Leavine Family Racing? 692. The Sound posted: 05.06.2013 - 10:36 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) Do any of you folks ever read the Yahoo! comments on the races? I am in utter disbelief. Every post, no matter what it is about, always ends up with dozens of comments bashing "NASFIX" and reminiscing about the "good ol' days" when the men were men. No joke, someone commented that NASCAR became a joke when the engine builders stopped deciding the races. He also mentioned that he stopped watching when they no longer ran stock cars in the races. If that last statement is true, then he has not watched a race in 30 years... Absolutely unbelievable to me. 693. Mike Daly posted: 05.06.2013 - 10:48 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) The Sound - yes. I've read comments like that at a lot of message boards and it gets tedious at times. Just how did NASCAR become a joke when "the engine builders stopped deciding the races"? NASCAR has plenty of rules and circumstances that shouldn't be there (the yellow line rule, not racing to the stripe, etc.) and it isn't necessarily good for the sport when only a few outfits control the engines for the whole field (Front Row Motorsports should be getting Ford help to build its own engines instead of depending on RFR for its stuff), but some of the comments at message boards are simple foolishness. As far as this Winston 500 goes, what looked like another flop for the Gen-6 instead became the greatest finish in years. I'm now confident the Gen-6 will break 40 or more lead changes come July at Daytona and flirt with 60 at Talladega in October. 694. Talk4Tar posted: 05.06.2013 - 10:51 am Rate this comment: (2) (0) "I think Michael thinks his organization is a lot better than it really is. Don't get me wrong, they've done a great job of righting the ship and hiring good people over the past couple years. But without Rob Kauffman, Toyota's support, and JGR basically being their big brother, they're a nothing organization. Michael should feel lucky that they are as good as they are. " So, you are saying, without money, manufacturer support and alliances with other teams, MWR would fail? This is possibly the dumbest statement I have ever read on this website. All of those things are needed for ANY team to succeed. You think Hendrick Motorsports is JUST Rick Hendrick? What about the Fenway in Roush Fenway? All of the major teams in any motorsport have significant financial investors. Roush really did not become a powerhouse team until Robert Yates held their hands in the engine department. Hendrick has alliances with Stewart Haas, and pretty much every other major Chevrolet team that is not aligned with EGR / RCR. The only team that has succeeded without just one of those three pieces was Penske last year, because they had no other Dodge teams to rely on, and seeing it as a weakness overall, they left to join Ford for this season. I know NASCAR Fans can be a bit short sighted from time to time, but really? That was just a pure ignorant statement 695. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.06.2013 - 10:52 am Rate this comment: (2) (0) The current state of sportscar racing at it's present outside of GT especially LMP1 is an example of why unregulated, unrestricted motorsports is a terrible idea that while exciting has no long term sustainable future. 696. Mike Daly posted: 05.06.2013 - 10:53 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) jabber1990 - FOX is okay but for some reason their camera work seems a bit shaky - I watch Talladega races back to back and FOX's Winston 500 cam work always looks shakier than NBC/ESPN's Diehard 500 camera work. ESPN overall, though, is a joke of a network; I'm hoping they quit the series (the rumor is they won't come back after their deal is done) and NBC and CBS come back in. On MRN, I'd like to see them bring back Allen Bestwick to the main booth and Kurt Becker for turn work - the best-called MRN race I taped was the '99 Firecracker with Joe Moore in 1-2, Becker on the backstretch, and Dave Moody in 3-4. The 1996 Daytona 500 (Becker on the backstretch, Fred Armstrong in 3-4) was just as good. 697. Paul posted: 05.06.2013 - 11:04 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) The problem that I see with restrictor plate racing in these Gen-6 cars isn't the cars, it's the drivers. When they decide to go side-by-side with each other and gang up on the leaders, they usually could if they had enough help from cars around them. And during the "boring" stages of the race, when cars were running around single-file, it was because the drivers were simply riding around and logging laps. I'm not complaining or anything because you can't ask the drivers to go 3-wide for three hours all race long just for our entertainment, but that's the reality of restrictor plate racing with these cars. If they wanted to, they could have been side-by-side the entire time, but that's not a good strategy to have if you want to be there at the end for a shot at the win. If I were NASCAR, I wouldn't change a thing with these cars on plate tracks. The passing is more difficult than past restrictor plate programs from recent years, but at least it's not easy to the point where drivers could pretty much pass each other at will, like they could with the COT car. I have a feeling that the July race at Daytona will be better than the February race because now the drivers will have had another plate race under their belts on a track where passing was fairly frequent and they've gotten used to these cars. I think they will pick up on some things from this Talladega race, such as how to gang up on the leader in order to make the pass, and use that knowledge in the July race, hopefully creating more passing and a more interesting race in the process. 698. Paul posted: 05.06.2013 - 11:13 am Rate this comment: (2) (0) This was the first 1-2-3 finish for Ford at Talladega since the 1994 DieHard 500, when Jimmy Spencer, Bill Elliott, and Ernie Irvan swept the top three positions. 699. Paul posted: 05.06.2013 - 12:02 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) I got a good chuckle out of this tweet made by a fake Brian France account: "Penske penalties knocked the rust off. Gibbs penalties got me warmed up. Newman penalties? Ohhhhh Newman, this...this is going to feel good." The good thing for NASCAR is they can just bust Newman for cussing on TV, though the inevitable fine will probably really be for Newman's disparaging words towards the sanctioning body. 700. AveryNH posted: 05.06.2013 - 12:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I wouldn't be surprised if Newman loses some money tomorrow, but if he loses a single point for his comments, I swear... It will get ugly!! 701. david posted: 05.06.2013 - 12:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) hell yeah. good job regan. 702. The Long Shot posted: 05.06.2013 - 12:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "The good thing for NASCAR is they can just bust Newman for cussing on TV" What cussing? I've heard much worse said by drivers on live TV (Dale Jr. in 2004 at Talladega; Robby Gordon in 2005 at New Hampshire), and their penalties were mere slaps on the wrist. If NASCAR does claim that Newman's penalties were for cussing on live TV, then they would need to explain to us how Junior and Gordon say "Sh*t" and get fined 50 grand, and yet Newman only says "ass" but will probably get the same fine. 703. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.06.2013 - 12:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Speaking of funny comments, you guys should read the weekly ESPNW article Brant James does on BoB. I found some new nicknames for her! Danicardashian! Made me laugh. But of course the article was a pure fluff piece, blaming her wreck on "bad luck" instead of bad driving, and failed to mention her throwing Terry under the bus. I made a comment myself there with my facebook account, saying if he really wanted to chronicle a true female racing success story he should follow the Force girls, Erica Enders, or the NASCAR driver I referred to as "Mrs Invisible" Johanna Long, saying if she got SOME attention, she could get some good money NWide rides and show what a female driver is capable of. And will somebody please explain why danicardashian (still like BoB better, but this is a nice change up every now and then) excused Larson for his role in the NWide wreck when he messed up the bump draft (it happens, but she dragged Cole Whitt over the coals for it last year) but blamed "getting clipped" in the Cup race when she clearly drove all over Terry? Is she really that clueless? 704. Paul posted: 05.06.2013 - 12:39 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Well, Larson is sort of like a younger Ricky Stenhouse, Jr., both in terms of talent and attitude. Maybe she's impressed by his results and media coverage and wants in on it like the sponge that she is. Can't wait to read "Danica/Larson Affair" on my news feed from the NASCAR paparazzi. The Long Shot, I never once said that Newman would get the same penalty as Dale Jr. and Robby Gordon got, but I think there's a really good chance he'll be penalized in some fashion. 705. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.06.2013 - 12:48 pm Rate this comment: (1) (2) Maybe we will get lucky and Stenhouse will knock her up so that she's out for 3 years. 706. Jim posted: 05.06.2013 - 1:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) First win for a #34 car since Wendell Scott Dec. 1963 Jax, Fl. 707. cjs3872 posted: 05.06.2013 - 3:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Now one factor in all the single file racing for much of the event yesterday that nobody seems to be mentioning had to do with the fact that the drivers just wanted to get the race in. After all, only one of the first three cautions was for an accident (the first big one). The other two were for Trevor Bayne's blown engine on lap 25 and for rain on lap 125. Nobody wanted to chance having to come back for a Monday finish so they ran conservatively and one they got to where the race had become official, then they started to race a little harder. And speaking of Trevor, does anyone have a good luck charm for him? This is at least the third time I can remember him finishing last in a Cup race in the #21 car, and none of those finihses were his doing. And this is the second time he's finished last due to a blown engine. He also finished last in one of the races at Michigan last year when he blew an engine whil running in the top ten on lap 7. I don't know who's giving them these hand grenades for engines but this is very much unlike the Wood Brothers, who have always been known as one of the most prepared teams in the sport, and this is the second time in the last 10-12 races they're run where they've finished last due to a blown engine early in the race. Then there's all the bad luck he's had in the Nationwide Series this year that has knocked him out of any sort of contention for the title. He's had three bad finishes in eight races this year and I don't think he's to blame for any of them. I know that team was due for a run of bad luck after two consecutive championships, but three bad finishes in eight races? 708. The Long Shot posted: 05.06.2013 - 3:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Paul, I never said that you did. I'm just speculating. By the way, the Nationwide entry list has been released. Some notes: Blake Koch is not entered in either the #24 or the #00, Kyle Fowler is in the #79 for Go Green Racing, and Derrike Cope has returned to competition in his own #73. 709. Jocke Persson posted: 05.06.2013 - 3:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) -------------------------------------------- Hey everyone, I'm trying to figure out who has the record, official or unofficial, of most starts/races in one season, from Nascar's Big 3 series combined. Is it Kyle Busch? In 2009 he raced in 86 races in the Big 3 combined. And he actually has three 80+ seasons, and five 70+ seasons. The closest drivers I can find are Kevin Harvick and Carl Edwards with both at 71. Mark Martin's best is 57. Any help? Thanks. I would love to find like a Top 10 list or something. ---------------------------------------------- 710. Daniel posted: 05.06.2013 - 4:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Darlington entry list: 44 entered -Mike Bliss in the #19 -Timmy Hill in the #32 -Brian Keselowski in the #52 -Mark Martin in the #55 711. Paul posted: 05.06.2013 - 4:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I just found out that Blake Koch spotted for Scott Speed in yesterday's race, which was his first race working as a spotter. The kid had an impressive top ten run in the Nationwide race before his buddy Justin Allgaier turned him into the wall, and then worked the next day from the spotter's stand and helped guide Scott Speed to an impressive top ten finish. The kid just wants to be a part of this sport in any way that he can. I like that. What I found to be really cool about David Ragan's win yesterday was that it was basically a combination of his three prior NASCAR victories all rolled into one (2 Nationwide, 1 Cup). He had to make a daring last lap pass for the lead at Talladega (2009 Nationwide Talladega), made the winning pass on fellow Ford driver Carl Edwards (2009 Nationwide Bristol night), and got help from a teammate pushing him from behind (2011 Firecracker 400). That's pretty darn cool if you ask me. cjs, you make a good point on drivers racing conservatively for the first part of the race (of which I missed most of, but was able to catch the final 65 laps after the rain delay). The strategy was to simply make it to halfway due to rain possibly coming and delaying the finish for another day, because there was no incentive in driving overly-aggressive at that point in the race, and once they reached halfway they were able to go all out and try to get the lead just before the rain came. Carl Edwards played that strategy out perfectly, but unfortunately for him, the race restarted and that allowed the two FRM cars to pass him about 65 laps later and take the win away. If you think about it, Carl lost the race twice yesterday, but he was in a pretty cheerful mood in the media center afterwards, even joking with David Gilliland that he thought the two FRM cars should have been penalized for being so darn fast in the final two laps. And speaking of Carl Edwards, when is he going to win a marquee points race on a big track? Now to be fair, he is a 2-time Bristol night race winner ('07 and '08), but he has come up just short in pretty much every other big race in the Sprint Cup Series. He's finished runner-up in both Daytona races (2008 Firecracker 400 and 2011 Daytona 500, the latter of which he got beat by rookie Trevor Bayne of all people), the 2011 Southern 500 where he lost to Regan Smith and an underfunded Furniture Row team on worn tires, the 2008 Brickyard 400 at Indy, and now finished 3rd after leading on the white flag lap in yesterday's spring Talladega race (and essentially losing twice due to the non-rain out on lap 123). He also lost in the 2011 season finale at Homestead to championship rival Tony Stewart after leading the most laps, allowing Stewart to win the championship on a tiebreaker. Edwards' Cup career reminds me a lot of Bobby Allison's, minus the marquee wins and high win totals. Both drivers were always among the best in the sport (though never THE best) and were inconsistent title contenders who could finish 2nd in points one year and regress the next, and should have won more championships in their careers, but various circumstances prevented that from happening (often it involved a bad points system and/or inconsistency down the stretch of the season). However, Bobby was always at his best in the big races, as seen from his 12 wins in the "majors" (3 Daytona 500s, 4 Southern 500s, 2 World 600s, and 3 Winston 500s). Carl on the other hand always seems to come up short in races with the biggest checks. I don't know what it is, but it's something to pay attention to the next time he looks to be in position to win a big race, such as the Southern 500 and Coca-Cola 600 races, which are the next two points races on the schedule. 712. Ed posted: 05.06.2013 - 4:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I thought BoB stood for Baroness of Bitching. But while we're coming up with nicknames, how about "The Fastest Bitch on the Beach" in reference to her Daytona 500 pole 713. Ed posted: 05.06.2013 - 4:50 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) The beauty of Talladega: all 43 starters attempted to run the distance 714. Kubica fan Ireland posted: 05.06.2013 - 5:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The southern 500 my favourite race of the year at my favourite track only the road courses come close to it. 715. Kevin posted: 05.06.2013 - 5:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) In the booth today, I would have Ned Jarrett, Ken Squire, Bob Jenkins, Jack Aute along with Wall Dallenbach jr. On Pit Road, Dick Bergren, Mike Joy, Jerry Punch, Allen Bestwick, Bill Weber and Dale Jarrett. In the 'hotel' No one, I would get rid of it. If Benny Parsons was alive, I would have him over Dallenbach. Keep in mind a few of them are retired now, which is why I have 1-2 more to have aprt time reporters. 716. murb posted: 05.06.2013 - 5:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Talk4Tar, I never said that the same wouldn't apply to other teams like the ones you mentioned. I'm just saying that it's stupid for Michael (or anyone else) to think his race team is ready for a championship. They're not ready yet. They had a good year last year, but now they are stupidly expecting to win a championship within the next couple of years (apparently with Brian Vickers as the driver). Michael will even tell you that. Like I said, they've turned the corner tremendously, but if we're talking about the elite championship teams, they don't belong in the conversation. 717. cjs3872 posted: 05.06.2013 - 5:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kevin, the original post on that said that commentators that are now deceased can be listed. I like the old-timers because they actually seemed to care about the event and it's participants. Also, they knew that they were, first and foremost, reporters. Jim McKay always said at a sporting event that he was reporting from it. Actually, a number of those I listed are deceased. McKay, Chris Schenkel, Chris Economaki, Dave Diles,, Benny Parsons, and Larry Nuber are all deceased, and everyone else I listed are retired, and there's a reason for that. They commentated the way races and other sporting events should be called. I wonder just how some of today's commentators would call the finish of the 1982 Indianapolis 500. They certainly wouldn't do it like Jim McKay and Sam Posey did. And also remember that it was Jim McKay that first spotted the controversial incident at Indy in 1981 when he asked "what's he doing?" when Bobby Unser was passing cars turn one under caution. Ironically in 1975, Bobby Unser had passed A.J. Foyt under caution after leaving the pits just before the rain hit and Keith Jackson, who did that race, that "he can't pass him under the yellow, I don't believe" just before Unser fell in behind Foyt. See, even the lead commentators back the knew what the rules actually were, unlike some of the commentators of today, who sometimes don't know what the rules are. (Remember the situation regarding pit stops at the All-Star Race in 2011?) And the commentators back then weren't afraid to criticize when needed. For instance, what Dave Diles insinuated during the 1973 Indianapolis 500, the fact that they were racing on an unsafe racetrack just before Swede Savage's crash, would never be tolerated today. The commentators back then were reporters first, and if the competitors didn't like what was said, then tough luck because they called it the way they saw it. 718. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.06.2013 - 5:30 pm Rate this comment: (7) (0) Robby Gordon on Brad Keselowski: ''Is Keselowski really crying on twitter?'' ''Keselowski has turned into a little bitch'' 719. Paul posted: 05.06.2013 - 5:37 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Somewhere down the line, the reporters and announcers decided that the best way to gain access to the drivers for interviews was to become friends with them. After years of doing this strategy and seeing the media become closer and closer with the drivers, the sport is now in the current shape that it's in, with reporters rarely asking the tough questions or calling drivers out on some of the things that they do on the race track. I think that is one of the reasons why the sport is so gimmicky now. The media is supposed to act as the voice of the people towards the drivers and get the real stories on various issues. But instead, they act more as mouthpieces and cheerleaders for the drivers and just expect the fans to buy in to what they're trying to sell us. It works on casual fans who don't know any better, but it's frustrating for the real fans that want the real story, not the media's rendition of the story. 720. murb posted: 05.06.2013 - 5:54 pm Rate this comment: (1) (4) You know it's bad if Robby "King of the Little Bitches" Gordon calls you a little bitch. I really want Brad to realize that being a voice in the garage is one thing, but ranting on Twitter Hamlin/Logano style is not the way to go. 721. Paul posted: 05.06.2013 - 6:07 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Don't call Robby Gordon a "little bitch." He would have given Stewart a rightful ass kicking back in 2000 had Stewart's "Harvick-like" pit crew hadn't intervened, plus he ran out in front of cars going about 55-70 MPH at Loudon in 2005 to chuck his helmet at Michael Waltrip's car. He may bitch, but he's not a "little bitch." Brad gained 100,000 casual followers for taking a blurry picture from the cockpit of his race car in the 2012 Daytona 500. Why stop doing something that made you so popular in the first place? When your team is in the middle of an appeal with NASCAR, it's probably not in one's best interest to make a big issue regarding NASCAR's restart policy and become the only person in America to rain down on David Ragan's parade. I wouldn't be surprised if NASCAR basically says "F*** you" to the #2 team and denies their appeal once again just because of Brad's attitude as of late. Logano has kept quiet during this whole process, which is admirable considering his Twitter war with Denny Hamlin earlier this year. Never thought I'd say this, but he's becoming my second favorite Penske driver, and the first one isn't Brad. 722. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.06.2013 - 6:13 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) Racehub just used race control radio and video evidence to destroy Brad Keselowski's 'arguments.' 723. Paul posted: 05.06.2013 - 6:15 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) NASCAR RaceHub did a terrific job of explaining the restart controversy between the #2 and the #34. I recommend anyone who didn't see it to find the video on SPEED.com when they put it up, just to end any confusion over the issue. 724. murb posted: 05.06.2013 - 6:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "He may bitch, but he's not a "little bitch."" Well, at least we agree that Brad is being a little bitch in this situation... 725. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.06.2013 - 6:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I've always regarded Twitter as a mixed blessing for drivers, on the one hand it gives them a place to voice their opinions, feelings on certain things, etc. and lets the fans see how they are off the track. On the other hand it can lead to drivers making asses of themselves like Denny and Logano earlier and Brad last night, Larry Mac came up with brilliant suggestion on RaceHub. Maybe Rodger should unplug Special K's twitter whenever he crosses over into to diva territory. 726. Cooper posted: 05.06.2013 - 7:06 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Brad whines and complains a lot. But so does everyone else in the world. It is human nature. We are greedy people and we aren't happy until we get what we want. And then we want more. Brad isn't happy unless he gets what he wants. Which is surprising because he needs to remember where he came from. He is a very lucky man to be where he is today and bitching about a driver who won fair and square and has no effect on his success surprises me. Brad also needs to realize what got him here. Hard racing, Np Bullshit and let his racing do the talking. Brad needs to shut his trap and take it to them on the racetrack not on twitter!!! 727. Paul posted: 05.06.2013 - 7:27 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Regan Smith tweeted a screenshot from ESPN where they had him labeled as "J.J. Yeley." Now it's one thing for he and David Ragan to be confused for each other since their first and last names sound so much alike (I remember confusing the two of them back in 2007), but to mistake Regan for Yeley? Haha, now this is just getting ridiculous. 728. Paul posted: 05.06.2013 - 7:28 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Oh and also, Buddy Baker, in his infinite wisdom, referred to David Ragan and David Gilliland on his show on Sirius XM as "The Double D's." Please God, let that nickname stick! 729. joey2448 posted: 05.06.2013 - 7:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I used to confuse Regan Smith and David Ragan back then, too. C'mon Bulls, take down the Heat!!! :D 730. Paul posted: 05.06.2013 - 7:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "C'mon Bulls, take down the Heat!!! :D" I'm not much of a basketball fan and I'm with ya there! For some reason, I've always liked the Mavericks, Bulls, and Knicks in the NBA. The latter two teams are still in it, and I'm kinda hoping to see the two of them reach the Eastern Conference Finals and ensure that I have a team to look forward to hearing about as the NBA Finals approach us. I remember when Regan Smith first debuted in Cup at Bristol 2007, as he split the schedule with Mark Martin in the #01 car, and FOX aired a little highlight video of him as a way to introduce him to the fans. I remember watching that and thinking, "Wait, what? Regan Smith is making his Cup debut? Didn't he just finish 5th in the Daytona 500 a month ago?" Haha, so as you can see it can happen to anybody. It sure is ironic that fans were mistakenly congratulating David Ragan on winning the Nationwide race on Saturday night, only for him to go on and win the Cup race the next day. It must feel pretty sweet to have thousands of people congratulating you on Twitter for three days straight (including today), even if one of those days it was on accident haha. 731. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.06.2013 - 8:00 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) To rub some salt in BoB's wounds: don't forget this is the same David Gilliland who genuinely outran Cup drivers to win at Kentucky in 2006 while driving a $#!*box that was literally funded week-to-week. 732. Paul posted: 05.06.2013 - 8:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) David Gilliland: 0.800 PEER rating (ranked 22nd out of 40 drivers) Danica Patrick: -0.150 PEER rating (ranked 40th out of 40 drivers) Hey Danica, why don't you do what Mr. Gilliland advised you to do and just shut up and drive. Also, David Ragan and Scott Speed are now ranked 14th and 16th in PEER ratings, respectively, and are both "serviceable" drivers. It might be skewed thanks to their great results this weekend, but I'm going to enjoy this while I can. 733. Paul posted: 05.06.2013 - 8:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "this is the same David Gilliland who genuinely outran Cup drivers to win at Kentucky in 2006 while driving a $#!*box that was literally funded week-to-week." That car was so terrible that his HUGE surprise win at Kentucky was that team's only top 25 finish that whole season. A good day for Danica would be just to finish in the top 25 in her over-sponsored SHR car, let alone win a race in a car that was barely sponsored by holding off a JGR car that finished 5th in points that season. 734. murb posted: 05.06.2013 - 8:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm pulling for the Bulls in the NBA Playoffs now too since my joke Lakers are now out of it (really starting to lose faith in that franchise - I've been a fan of theirs virtually all my life, but it's just getting hard to watch. Kobe's becoming more and more of a team cancer and Dwight Howard is a total prick). I'm not sure if Chicago will be able to beat Miami in this series, but I think they can definitely take them to at least six games. David Gilliland really is underrated. The problem with him was that he took the first Cup offer that he got (with Yates) when instead he should have used that Kentucky win to spring board into a good NNS ride. Had he stayed in NNS for another year or two and gotten with a good team, I think he would have gotten some more wins and possibly a good Cup ride later on. Anywho, it's cool to see him churning out good runs for Front Row. It would be awesome if he too could pull out an upset win at either one of the other plate races or a road course this year. 735. David posted: 05.06.2013 - 9:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "David Gilliland: 0.800 PEER rating (ranked 22nd out of 40 drivers) Danica Patrick: -0.150 PEER rating (ranked 40th out of 40 drivers) Hey Danica, why don't you do what Mr. Gilliland advised you to do and just shut up and drive. Also, David Ragan and Scott Speed are now ranked 14th and 16th in PEER ratings, respectively, and are both "serviceable" drivers. It might be skewed thanks to their great results this weekend, but I'm going to enjoy this while I can." You dirty bird... "PEER rating" is redundant. Just say "PEER" instead. "Logano has kept quiet during this whole process, which is admirable considering his Twitter war with Denny Hamlin earlier this year. Never thought I'd say this, but he's becoming my second favorite Penske driver, and the first one isn't Brad." Balderdash!! Poppycock!! Maybe Brad and Logano are swapping personalities. 736. joey2448 posted: 05.06.2013 - 9:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kobe is a team cancer??? Wow, that's harsh! This is a man that was third in the NBA in pts/game this season. And it's, what, his 17th season? Kobe is the reason that team was in the playoffs at all this year. Granted, they did beat Houston w/o Kobe in the final regular season game to ensure their playoff spot. I actually am a Bulls fan, they're my team, so that's why I'm pulling for them. Even without D-Rose, I think they stand a chance of at least making the Heat earn this playoff series. I don't think they'll win (Heat in six), but the two teams split in their regular season series this year. And they ended Miami's 27 game win streak. Chicago is (somehow) keeping up with Miami in this game. I don't know how, lol. 737. murb posted: 05.06.2013 - 9:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Kobe is a team cancer??? Wow, that's harsh! This is a man that was third in the NBA in pts/game this season." He definitely puts up big numbers, and I respect the hell out of his drive and determination, but whenever they are in the crapper (like this year) he gives off a total "Hey teammates, I scored 35 points and we lost, I did my job, so I don't know what's wrong with the rest of you" vibe. As a long time Lakers fan I appreciate all he's done for the franchise, but his diva-ish attitude that he does sometimes gets on my nerves. 738. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.06.2013 - 9:35 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Ragan and Gilliland were both classic examples of the dangers and damaging consequences to drivers of being rushed into Sprint Cup too early by impatient big wig owners. Yates should have given Gilliland a full time ride in the 90 CITI car for 2007 that Leicht won in at Kentucky and then put him in cup in 08 (although likely with another team). Same goes for Roush and Ragan. Both have a lot of talent. 739. FloridaFan88 posted: 05.06.2013 - 9:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I never understood why Allen Bestwick and Bill Weber switched positions in 2005. Does anyone know why? 740. Baker posted: 05.06.2013 - 9:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well this sucks. I give up watching NASCAR's BS and then someone I really like earns a thrilling upset victory. Congrats to Ragan. I am caving and watching the next 2 points races because they are 2 races Tony Stewart has yet to win and I would like to see it happen. With the way it looks like he is running I highly doubt he even gets Top 10s, but I'll watch until he is out of it. 741. joey2448 posted: 05.06.2013 - 9:51 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I'll never know why either, FloridaFan88... GO BULLS!!! GET IT!!! 742. Bronco posted: 05.06.2013 - 10:00 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) "Well, at least we agree that Brad is being a little bitch in this situation..." Brad is more than just a little bitch. He has proven himself to be far worse than Kyle Busch when it comes to opening his mouth. Kyle Busch complains because he's genuinely disappointed at dominating a race and finishing 2nd due to poor fuel mileage, a late caution, a bad pit stop etc. Brad on the other hand will shoot off his mouth whenever he gets the chance to on virtually any topic. He threw his own teammate (AJ Allmendinger) under the bus after the drug test last summer, then accused the HMS cars of cheating after the August Michigan race (while simultaneously proclaiming the integrity of his team and how they never work in a grey area), then acted as if NASCAR was unfairly picking on him after Texas, then claimed that he got screwed on the restart order. Brad just seems like one of those people that opens their mouth just to hear themselves talk. Here's hoping that they lose their appeal this week and serve out the penalties that were doled out. 743. murb posted: 05.06.2013 - 10:07 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "GO BULLS!!! GET IT!!!" That's awesome that they won game one!!! Congrats Joey!!! 744. Paul posted: 05.06.2013 - 10:16 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) "then claimed that he got screwed on the restart order." Speaking of restarts, Brad didn't seem to mind in the Nationwide race at Indy last year when he benefited from Elliott Sadler's penalty for beating him to the line on a restart (thanks to Austin Dillon), yet now he's the "victim" because he didn't like where NASCAR put him on the restart. Oh boo hoo. But he couldn't just discuss manners with NASCAR like an adult, oh noooo. Instead, he goes to the internet and rants like a little teen girl about how Ragan cheated and NASCAR screwed him over like they always do and this is all BS. Wah wah wah wah wah... Way to act like a true champion there, Brad. You certainly fooled me last year when you made the great #48 team choke in the final two races and looked like the bigger man in the process. Looks like I'm gonna have to wait until the next crop of young guns like Ryan Blaney, Parker Kligerman, Alex Bowman, and James Buescher get promoted up to Cup before I have a young Cup driver who I can genuinely root for, and hopefully they won't disappoint me once they have a taste of success. 745. David posted: 05.06.2013 - 10:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) So people, do you think Ricky Stenhouse was in the doghouse last night with Danica for causing that wreck, or do you think they made up? 746. David posted: 05.06.2013 - 10:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And this was on FOX Sports' "Shake and Bake" blog: "Pro tip: Never, ever cause a crash that results in the woman you are sleeping with wrecking at 190 miles per hour. It's just not a good idea." They can't prove that. It disgusts me, but it is a little bit funny. 747. Paul posted: 05.06.2013 - 10:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "He threw his own teammate (A.J. Allmendinger) under the bus after the drug test last summer" I'm glad that you mentioned that, Bronco. At a time where Dinger needed as much support as he could get from those closest to him, Brad just threw him under the bus and basically said that A.J. didn't deserve to compete in NASCAR because he was (unknowingly) using drugs. Fast forward four months later, and Brad is drunk off his ass on national TV. Last I checked, alcohol is a drug too, Brad, but I'm sure that doesn't count in his book. And of all the people to be supportive of him, perhaps the most supportive of A.J. during all this was his team owner Roger Penske, who kept in touch with A.J. during his entire suspension, and even though he cut ties with him on his Cup team, has given him a few opportunities this season in his vacant IndyCar ride, trying to give A.J. another shot in competitive equipment because he knows what kind of talent that A.J. has (even though his 2012 Penske results might suggest otherwise). If the guy who once fired his driver after WINNING a championship (Tom Sneva) could be so supportive of A.J. after he made one career-altering mistake, why couldn't his teammate from the same generation as him be the same way? Or at least not say anything at all (a la every Hendrick driver after Jeff Gordon's incident at Phoenix last fall) and just mind his own damn business? Seems to me like Brad just wanted the attention, and wound up looking like a complete hypocrite after he got wasted from a different kind of drug on national TV just months later. 748. David posted: 05.06.2013 - 10:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Fast forward four months later, and Brad is drunk off his ass on national TV." I still don't think that helped the image of the NASCAR driver, when the champion was drunk. Yet, some people on here found it funny. I don't get it. And I still support AJ (he goes by "AJ", not "A.J.") Allmendinger, even though he let me down last year. He seems remorseful for his thoughtlessness, and he is back in NASCAR, albeit in a part-time capacity. 749. Anonymous posted: 05.06.2013 - 10:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) FloridaFan88, What I remembered was Allen Bestwick broke his leg during an ice hockey charity game in 2004 and Bill Webertook over for a couple races. What I think happened was Bill Weber was playing politics behind the scenes or NBC wanted to punish Bestwick for getting hurt during a charity game. The fact is I don't think no one knows if Allen's contract with NBC allowed him to play hockey even as a charity game. The has been some contracts that allow don't allow people to do certain things. 750. Paul posted: 05.06.2013 - 10:48 pm Rate this comment: (4) (2) Well at least FOX Sports is willing to admit that Stenhouse caused the crash (which he did), rather than put the blame J.J. Yeley like Stenhouse and his bimbo girlfriend did afterwards. Stenhouse is such a great example for the kids. He speaks openly about his Christianity, yet there he is going out with and likely sleeping with a married woman on the rebound while going through a divorce. Breaking the seventh commandment, how very Christian of you, Ricky. Feel free to comb your hair perfectly and smile like the Dallas Cowboys mascot every day, before causing big wrecks and blaming them on other people, then convincing your little girlfriend that it was totally the other guy's fault and cause some people to buy into your bullshit just because about half the fans in the sport think that whatever Danica says is the truth. Also, if you're a 2-time Nationwide Series champion and you have fewer top ten finishes than your talentless diva girlfriend, maybe you should keep your mouth shut and learn how to fix that performance issue you've been having lately. That might be the better way to go, but then again maybe his strategy is to simply divert the attention away from him and hope nobody notices just how stupid he can be as a driver at times. It certainly worked at Kentucky last year when he ran over his own crew members, then blamed it all on Erik Darnell just because he was sitting on pit road in the stall before Stenhouse's. 751. JG24FanForever posted: 05.06.2013 - 10:53 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Another statistical Gem for the event: Most Fastest Laps: David Ragan with 13. He was the only driver with double-digits. 752. Paul posted: 05.06.2013 - 10:54 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "And I still support AJ Allmendinger, even though he let me down last year." He didn't let me down. He is a human being after all, and he's certainly not a perfect one. I expect him to make mistakes, just like everybody else, but I also expect him to recover from his mistakes and bounce right back up on his feet afterwards. He has done just that, earning himself a part-time ride with both Phoenix Racing in Cup and Penske Racing in IndyCar. If he would have refused treatment because he was convinced that there was nothing wrong with him, or worse become a drug addict due to his denial of having such a problem, then he would have let me down. But he didn't, and as a matter of fact, he's dusted himself off and is trying to get his career back on track, which he very well could in one racing discipline or another. I'm proud of the way that he has handled this whole thing and I look forward to seeing him return to the race track whenever he gets that opportunity to do so, hoping that he redeems himself with a solid finish every time. 753. FHgrad99 posted: 05.06.2013 - 10:58 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Who would have thought that out of all of the multi-car teams in NASCAR that Front Row Motorsports would be the team to finish 1-2 at Talladega? That's one of the things that makes Talladega great, the teams that might be the "longshots" before the race can have their days in the spotlight and that is what happened in this race. Hopefully something like this can get a sponsor to take notice of Front Row Motorsports so they won't have blank quarter-panels for the rest of the year. I am very happy for that team to do what they were able to do and get the success they've worked so hard to achieve. 754. David posted: 05.06.2013 - 11:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Breaking the seventh commandment, how very Christian of you, Ricky." In the Lutheran denomination (LCMS!!), the seventh commandment is "You shall not steal". But it's small potatoes, anyway. "Also, if you're a 2-time Nationwide Series champion and you have fewer top ten finishes than your talentless diva girlfriend, maybe you should keep your mouth shut and learn how to fix that performance issue you've been having lately." Well, his 0.450 PEER would seem to indicate that something needs changing. 755. murb posted: 05.06.2013 - 11:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "then convincing your little girlfriend that it was totally the other guy's fault and cause some people to buy into your bullshit just because about half the fans in the sport think that whatever Danica says is the truth." Her interview after that wreck disgusted me. She has no idea. It's like she didn't even look at a replay. And then to top it all off, she throws in the "I wish it would have rained out" comment. Any real racer (AKA: not her) would never have said something like that. 756. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.06.2013 - 11:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "And then to top it all off, she throws in the "I wish it would have rained out" comment. Any real racer (AKA: not her) would never have said something like that." A rain out would of been the only chance she had of wining. I hardly even paid attention to her interview, it just came off as gibberish to me. 757. David posted: 05.06.2013 - 11:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "He didn't let me down. He is a human being after all, and he's certainly not a perfect one. I expect him to make mistakes, just like everybody else, but I also expect him to recover from his mistakes and bounce right back up on his feet afterwards. He has done just that, earning himself a part-time ride with both Phoenix Racing in Cup and Penske Racing in IndyCar. If he would have refused treatment because he was convinced that there was nothing wrong with him, or worse become a drug addict due to his denial of having such a problem, then he would have let me down. But he didn't, and as a matter of fact, he's dusted himself off and is trying to get his career back on track, which he very well could in one racing discipline or another. I'm proud of the way that he has handled this whole thing and I look forward to seeing him return to the race track whenever he gets that opportunity to do so, hoping that he redeems himself with a solid finish every time." Beautifully said, Paul. I take back that part about letting me down. I was initially let down, because I didn't think he was the drug type. But he didn't intentionally take drugs last year, he took a pill a friend gave him. While that certainly was stupid, he owned up to it, and he decided to take NASCAR's Road to Recovery program. By the way, he's been doing GREAT this year in his limited schedule. He and Nick Harrison are one of two driver-team pairings with a perfect 100.00% relevance (Brian Vickers-Rodney Childers is the other), he has a 13.5 average finish with a 2.1 deviation, and he holds a +27.0% Position Retainment Difference. 758. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.06.2013 - 11:27 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Brad's comments were definitely cringe worthy. But with him, you have to take the good with the bad. One of the things I like about him is his refreshing outspokeness on how he feels which usually comes off in a relatable way. Obviously this was not one of those relatable instances. But the same way those of us Earnhardt fans who loved him for his "I'll wreck my Mom to win a race" driving style had to cringe our way through moments like '86 Richmond, '96 Rockingham, and '99 Bristol, and much like Gordon fans who love him for his "must never EVER lose anything" competitiveness have had to cringe their way through some whining (which even Gordon admits), us Brad fans will have to cringe occasionally too. Brad just comes out and says whatever he thinks, and usually it is nice to hear that kind of honesty from somebody undrr such a spotlight. Unfortunately he will also come out and say it when what he feels is wrong like this deal. 759. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.06.2013 - 11:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @750, that may be the greatest post ever 760. Talk4Tar posted: 05.06.2013 - 11:34 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) I'm just saying that it's stupid for Michael (or anyone else) to think his race team is ready for a championship. They're not ready yet. They had a good year last year, but now they are stupidly expecting to win a championship within the next couple of years (apparently with Brian Vickers as the driver). Michael will even tell you that. -- No, that is not what you said. You presented three qualifiers for MWR and their current status in NASCAR, and in this post you are backpeddling because I proved the fallacy in your statement. No one likes a Bronco, sir. They finished second in points last year, put two cars in chase and were regularly threats to win on a weekly basis. No one sets their goal to be stagnant. If you have become a threat, the only next thing to aim for is a Champion. It is not arrogance or ignorance, it is logic. 761. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.06.2013 - 11:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Brad just comes out and says whatever he thinks, and usually it is nice to hear that kind of honesty from somebody under such a spotlight. Unfortunately he will also come out and say it when what he feels is wrong like this deal." Being a Tony Stewart fan, I can understand this. Still that's no excuse for Brad raining on David Regan's parade complaining about the last restart lineup especially when it was his own team that screwed up in that intense and not NASCAR. You can be outspoken and still come out smelling like a rose. 762. Paul posted: 05.06.2013 - 11:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "she throws in the "I wish it would have rained out" comment." Inconsiderate of the fans in the stands that paid good hard money to watch a race from a great race track, some of whom came to the race track just because she was in the race. Believe it or not, she will still win the "fan vote" for the All-Star Race just because of her name and gender, so I guess it really doesn't matter what she says since it has no effect on her popularity. "In the Lutheran denomination (LCMS!!), the seventh commandment is "You shall not steal"." The list from the Book of Exodus is the one I go by. I'm a bit old school when it comes to a lot of things. 763. Paul posted: 05.06.2013 - 11:44 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Fair enough, DSFF. It's good to see you sticking beside your driver through thick and thin like that, and taking the good with the bad. I know I would do the same thing if I were in your position (and have experience doing so on this very board as a matter of fact) and stand beside my driver as well. Every fan should do that if they truly are fans of that driver. I should know, having been a Kurt Busch fan since I started watching NASCAR back in 2002, and still consider him to be my second favorite active driver. 764. murb posted: 05.06.2013 - 11:57 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) "No, that is not what you said." Actually, yeah, that's what I was implying. I was implying that Michael should just be happy with how he's turned the corner over the last couple of years instead of getting their hopes up for winning a championship this soon. I never said they shouldn't strive towards that ONE DAY, but for now it's unrealistic. I've heard him say several times this year that they think they can win a championship THIS YEAR. They can't. And as for me "backpeddling", I am not because I still stand by what I said. Rob Kauffman came in and saved Michael's ass from extinction, so I think he (along with Toyota's hardcore backing, which they only give to two teams - JGR and MWR) deserves a lot more credit for righting the team than Michael does. My final point: Michael should be over the moon about how far the team with his name on it has come, but he shouldn't be getting his hopes up for a championship this soon. 765. David posted: 05.07.2013 - 12:13 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) "The list from the Book of Exodus is the one I go by." It can go either way. It really can. Some denominations count the first two statements, "I am the Lord your God" and "You shall not make an idol" as one commandment. Others count them as two, and then they put the two statements about coveting together as one. "I'm a bit old school when it comes to a lot of things." I hear that! "Brad's comments were definitely cringe worthy. But with him, you have to take the good with the bad. One of the things I like about him is his refreshing outspokeness on how he feels which usually comes off in a relatable way." His outspokenness is great. There is a line between speaking out and whining, and Brad usually stays on the good side of that line. "I should know, having been a Kurt Busch fan since I started watching NASCAR back in 2002, and still consider him to be my second favorite active driver." Speaking of Kurt Busch, I may have to start liking him, because he has really taken Furniture Row Racing to the front this year. His interview after Richmond astounded me (in a good way), because he didn't get angry with Stewart for his antics. He did his best to talk very little about the subject. Your post about him was terrific. 766. The Long Shot posted: 05.07.2013 - 12:29 am Rate this comment: (2) (0) "Stenhouse is such a great example for the kids. He speaks openly about his Christianity, yet there he is going out with and likely sleeping with a married woman on the rebound while going through a divorce. Breaking the seventh commandment, how very Christian of you, Ricky." Way to go, Paul. There are way too many people in this world who claim to be Christians and yet act the complete opposite of what a Christian is supposed to act like. What hypocrites they all are. 767. Paul posted: 05.07.2013 - 12:43 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) "His interview after Richmond astounded me (in a good way), because he didn't get angry with Stewart for his antics." The thing with Kurt is that he, like several other drivers, has trouble containing his emotions in the heat of the moment, and as a result he often says something that he regrets later (i.e the verbal threat that he made towards Bob Pockrass at Dover last spring). But I think that when he is able to control his emotions, such as after the Richmond race when he spent more time thanking his team that talking about Stewart, he comes off like a really good guy. His brother is the same way. He really cooled down by the time he went on Twitter a few hours after the race yesterday, basically thanking the fans for their well wishes and even responding to a few people. One fan humorously told Kurt how he stuck the landing when he landed on Newman's car, and Kurt responded by saying that Travis Pastrana gave him a 9.5 for that "move" that he pulled off. I usually just take the good with the bad when it comes to Kurt. I pull for him on race day and love seeing him take that #78 car and run up in the top five or ten all day (until the damn thing falls apart), but usually listen to his interviews with one hand covering my eye just in case he says something foolish. And since we're on the subject of Kurt, I want to briefly respond to something that cjs said the other day about Kurt not being a capable mentor to a young driver. I actually think he could because he knows a lot about these cars and is pretty knowledgeable about the sport and how to race, but he would probably have to be a "part-time" mentor, so to speak. Talk to him about anything you want anytime you want, but it probably wouldn't be best to approach him immediately after a race if you pissed him off or if he ran into trouble during the day. Take a look at his interactions with Justin Allgaier at Dover 2012 and then Talladega on Saturday for instance. At Dover last year, after Kurt was upset with the way Allgaier had been racing him for most of the race after some incidental contact on lap one, he was walking away from him and didn't want to talk to Allgaier. Fast forward one year later at Talladega, and the two of them were tandem drafting together on the final restart and might have won the race had Allgaier not gotten separated from Kurt coming out of turn 4. After the race, Allgaier came up to Kurt and the two of them were smiling and sharing a laugh on pit road. I don't know what it is with these Busch brothers and why you never know what you're gonna get from them after the race, but for those of us who cheer one or both of them on, it's something that we've sort of just gotten used to over the years. Then again, I've been told by some of my football buddies that I am sort of a mixed bag when it comes to my emotions after practices or games, so perhaps I'm not all that different from the Busch brothers in that respect. 768. MStall41 posted: 05.07.2013 - 12:54 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Anyone know what Ragan's PEER is for 2013 thus far? He's performed admirably in the FRM equipment in a few races outside of Talladega as well. Would be curious to see the full PEER rankings at this point in the season. 769. David posted: 05.07.2013 - 12:55 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "There are way too many people in this world who claim to be Christians and yet act the complete opposite of what a Christian is supposed to act like." Both David Ragan and David Gilliland thanked the Lord yesterday. I like to hear that. "Then again, I've been told by some of my football buddies that I am sort of a mixed bag when it comes to my emotions after practices or games, so perhaps I'm not all that different from the Busch brothers in that respect." I can be a real hothead, sometimes. But that's because I'm usually surrounded by idiocy, or because I'm failing miserably at what I am doing. 770. Paul posted: 05.07.2013 - 1:27 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Anyone know what Ragan's PEER is for 2013 thus far?" 1.550, ranked 14th out of 40 drivers. "Both David Ragan and David Gilliland thanked the Lord yesterday. I like to hear that." Both of those drivers are legitimate nice guys, both on and off the race track, and it's good to see that there are still plenty of nice guys who are openly Christian in the public eye today. Ragan said in his winner's press conference that he, Gilliland, Trevor Bayne, Josh Wise, Michael McDowell, and Sam Hornish, Jr. (among others) will get together during the week and have a little group bible study session. All six of those drivers are really nice guys from what I've seen and I think it's pretty cool that they spend some quality time away from the race track thinking about something much greater than themselves. And who knows, maybe a higher power was watching over the race on Sunday and made sure the track was dried off and the safety crew was quick at cleaning off the debris and the race ended under green with a two nice guys driving for an underdog, nice guy team for an owner, Bob Jenkins, who is also a Christian, and decided to give those guys the strength to persevere and finish 1-2 in the end. And hey, David Ragan, David Gilliland, and Front Row Motorsports are all "Davids" in the NASCAR world, and Talladega is a true "Goliath" in the NASCAR world, along with champion level drivers and teams Carl Edwards (Roush), Matt Kenseth (Gibbs), and Jimmie Johnson (Hendrick). Plus, there was that rainstorm that lasted for a good part of three days that might have washed away "the sin." An then for David Ragan to say "This was a true David vs. Goliath story" almost as soon as he hopped out of the race car, almost as if he knew or had a vision as to what was supposed to happen in some sort of divine plan...hmmm...you never know, man. Perhaps it's just a coincidence that all of that stuff happened this weekend, but it is pretty amazing that all the pieces seemed to fit the puzzle just perfectly 771. murb posted: 05.07.2013 - 1:30 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I just read that James Finch will be pulling the plug on his Nascar operation later this summer. They won't enter any Cup races after the Brickyard 400. What an absolute travesty. 772. 18fan posted: 05.07.2013 - 1:33 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) I am as bad as anyone in terms of being a hothead. When my baseball team loses, even the drive home does not cool me off and I come home and throw things for about 10 minutes before I finally begin to cool down. I can totally relate to the interviews drivers give when they are extremely upset and come off as total dicks. 773. Paul posted: 05.07.2013 - 1:39 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "When my baseball team loses, even the drive home does not cool me off and I come home and throw things for about 10 minutes before I finally begin to cool down." So I take it you were pretty PO'd last night after the Giants held off a Dodgers 8th inning comeback and went on to win 4-3, huh? 774. Schroeder51 posted: 05.07.2013 - 1:48 am Rate this comment: (3) (0) James Finch is seriously pulling the plug on his NASCAR team? I'm not sure if I've said it before, but Finch is possibly the dumbest active owner in NASCAR today. Remember when he canned Mike Bliss back in 2009 when he wasn't winning enough...in a Cup driver dominated Nationwide Series? He's made WAY too many really poor decisions for my liking. 775. murb posted: 05.07.2013 - 1:53 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "James Finch is seriously pulling the plug on his NASCAR team?" The article is on Jayski, and it must be real because it has quotes from him. He says it's a combination of the bad economy and burnout on his part. I just feel bad for all the crew guys since they've been running so well. 776. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.07.2013 - 4:59 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Thank you, Paul, for reiterating that bit about Stenhouse. I mentioned it a few months ago, but you really exposed him on that. "Both of those drivers are legitimate nice guys, both on and off the race track, and it's good to see that there are still plenty of nice guys who are openly Christian in the public eye today. Ragan said in his winner's press conference that he, Gilliland, Trevor Bayne, Josh Wise, Michael McDowell, and Sam Hornish, Jr. (among others) will get together during the week and have a little group bible study session. All six of those drivers are really nice guys from what I've seen and I think it's pretty cool that they spend some quality time away from the race track thinking about something much greater than themselves." Of course! No Bible study would be complete without Captain Jesus! 777. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.07.2013 - 5:58 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) If you are gonna be so open about being a Christian in the public spotlight, you have to walk the walk. That is something I respect so much about Tim Tebow. How did he go all of last year with the New York Buttfumbles Jets being not used at all while the team was a mockery on field, with him being one year removed from going 7-4 as a starting QB, taking his once moribund team to the playoffs, and even winning an opening round OT thriller against the depleted but still favored Steelers, and not lash out heavily? Strong faith. And even now, with nobody wanting him, he isn't calling people out. That has to take a lot of will power. I mean C'Mon, you can't tell me he wouldn't be a huge upgrade at QB for teams like the Cardinals, Bills, Dolphins, Titans, his hometown Jaguars who are struggling to fill the seats in Jacksonville, the Raiders (please God no), or the Panthers (of course we have way too much money invested in human black hole Cam Newton, btw if we could combine Cam's tangibles with Tebow's intangibles we would win every game for the next 10 years). But yeah, Ricky did himself no favors with his BoB affair of his downright dejected 2012 NWide champ interview (he made '91 Earnhardt and '04 KuBu look like Jamie Mac after the 2010 Daytona 500 by comparison). 778. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.07.2013 - 6:03 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Glad I don't smash stuff when my baseball team loses. As a Braves fan, the 90's in October would have been ugly! I get mad and smash technology. Can't tell you how many remotes and controllers I have destroyed. And it is a good thing my phone costs so much. Countless times I have reared back to smash it against something only to think "whoa, too much money". 779. Kubica Fan Ireland posted: 05.07.2013 - 6:08 am Rate this comment: (2) (3) Guys leave all the Christian preaching off the site please.The way some of you talk you probably would dish the basketball player who came out as gay. 780. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.07.2013 - 7:20 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) KFI, I wouldn't. I would try to tow the line Chris Broussard did a little more tactfully. It is a relevant discussion of faith though because we are talking about how NASCAR drivers do and don't live out their faith. DSFF, I am glad I don't smash technology. I root for the Edmonton Oilers, Kansas City Chiefs, Washington Redskins, Jeff Gordon, and Nico Rosberg. I'd be going postal on the electronics every week! Fortunately, I have Hinch! :) 781. joey2448 posted: 05.07.2013 - 7:41 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) If I smashed remotes and phones when my favorite team/driver lost, then I would switch faith to the Patriots/Yankees/Heat/Jimmie Johnson, lol...All the emotionless juggernauts who think they are entitled to winning titles. 782. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.07.2013 - 8:06 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) Actually I smash technology when it messes up and doesn't work like it should. If I get real mad at my teams, I kinda slap my leg. Although, after Texas last year when JJ caught every break yet again to take a bigger points lead and it looked like the evil empire would beat Brad, I came home from my neighbors man cave where I watched the race and spiked my shoes in the basket whhere we keep our shoes. And to whoever said "quit preaching", we aren't preaching, we are pointing out the hypocrisy and lamenting how bad they make us look as Christians. The one label we just can't shake as Christians is "hypocrites", and they don't help matters any. 783. AveryNH posted: 05.07.2013 - 8:06 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) James Finch is considering pulling the plug on his team after the Brickyard 400 if he can't find sponsorship. I know this sorta thing was rumored at the end of last year too, but now it seems as if it may actually happen. A sad day it'd be to lose a someone like Finch in the garage. 784. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.07.2013 - 9:02 am Rate this comment: (2) (0) If Finch is losing the competitive fire, it'd probably be best to merge his team into Earnhardt-Ganassi's, and then slowly walk away. 785. 83andJoe posted: 05.07.2013 - 9:30 am Rate this comment: (2) (0) Word from the herd awhile back was that Finch has had sponsors wanting partial seasons, but keeps turning them down because he won't settle for anything less than a full season sponsorship. That's either principles or stubbornness, and I'm leaning torwards the latter. 786. The Long Shot posted: 05.07.2013 - 10:21 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Guys leave all the Christian preaching off the site please." No one's preaching anything. Nevertheless, I would highly advise we keep the religious talk down to a minimum. Not everyone here is a Christian (myself included), and I'd rather not see this get turned into a Youtube-esque comment war where one side is repeatedly bashing the other and vice versa. Let's just walk away from this with a mutual respect for each other's beliefs, alright? 787. The Long Shot posted: 05.07.2013 - 10:28 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) As for Phoenix Racing, I really am scratching my head as to what James Finch has going through his mind. He's in the midst of probably his best career season as an owner, he's directly in the midst of the owner's points battle, but he still has too much pride to accept part-time sponsorship. It's part-time sponsorship that got you where you are now, James! Stop acting like you're entitled to full-time sponsorship. 788. Paul posted: 05.07.2013 - 10:28 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "the Raiders (please God no)" No no no, that be great! We need winners on that team, and Tebow is just that; a winner! Plus, how awesome would it be to see a guy who is the polar opposite in terms of personality and appearance of the legendary Kenny Stabler quarterback the Raiders with that same type of creativity from the quarterback position and the way they both improvised to make plays. Now THAT would be great to see. "The way some of you talk you probably would dish the basketball player who came out as gay." Absolutely not, you are dead wrong, my friend. I've been very supportive of Jason Collins coming out as the first openly gay male athlete in the four major sports. In fact, I wish more athletes has the courage that he had and come out as well. There's no shame in admitting who you are. I root for the Minnesota Vikings (getting better), Oakland Raiders (OMG did they at least score a touchdown?), Colorado Avalanche (all the good players have retired), Oklahoma Sooners (hell yeah!), Notre Dame Fighting Irish (everyone please forget about the game against Alabama), UCLA Bruins (better than USC!), Jeff Gordon (it's like having surgery and the gas doesn't kick in until they're sewing you back up), Kurt Busch (wonder what trouble he'll run into today), and various NASCAR underdogs (I'll go get the shovel). 789. David posted: 05.07.2013 - 10:38 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I stop short of smashing stuff when I'm mad. Even when Jeff Gordon goes to the garage after a really good run. James Finch is closing his team? What a shame. 790. David posted: 05.07.2013 - 10:41 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) "No one's preaching anything. Nevertheless, I would highly advise we keep the religious talk down to a minimum. Not everyone here is a Christian (myself included), and I'd rather not see this get turned into a Youtube-esque comment war where one side is repeatedly bashing the other and vice versa. Let's just walk away from this with a mutual respect for each other's beliefs, alright?" That's fair. I will refrain from talking about religion. 791. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.07.2013 - 11:23 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Buttfumble has been the worst-of-the-worst on ESPN since Thanksgiving. 792. The Long Shot posted: 05.07.2013 - 12:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Here are my predictions for this week's Bojangles' Southern 500 at Darlington. Lineup: Row 1: #5-Kasey Kahne, #24-Jeff Gordon Row 2: #11-Denny Hamlin, #18-Kyle Busch Row 3: #48-Jimmie Johnson, #16-Greg Biffle Row 4: #9-Marcos Ambrose, #39-Ryan Newman Row 5: #22-Joey Logano, #14-Tony Stewart Row 6: #2-Brad Keselowski, #78-Kurt Busch Row 7: #1-Jamie McMurray, #20-Matt Kenseth Row 8: #99-Carl Edwards, #55-Mark Martin Row 9: #15-Clint Bowyer, #29-Kevin Harvick Row 10: #56-Martin Truex Jr., #88-Dale Earnhardt Jr. Row 11: #42-Juan Montoya, #31-Jeff Burton Row 12: #43-Aric Almirola, #17-Ricky Stenhouse Jr. Row 13: #27-Paul Menard, #34-David Ragan Row 14: #13-Casey Mears, #47-Bobby Labonte Row 15: #10-Danica Patrick, #51-Regan Smith Row 16: #83-David Reutimann, #95-Scott Speed Row 17: #93-Travis Kvapil, #30-David Stremme Row 18: #98-Michael McDowell, #7-Dave Blaney Row 19: #33-Landon Cassill, #38-David Gilliland Row 20: #35-Josh Wise, #36-J.J. Yeley Row 21: #19-Mike Bliss, #87-Joe Nemechek Row 22: #32-Timmy Hill DNQ: #52-Brian Keselowski Results: 1. #48-Jimmie Johnson 2. #2-Brad Keselowski 3. #99-Carl Edwards 4. #88-Dale Earnhardt Jr. 5. #11-Denny Hamlin 6. #20-Matt Kenseth 7. #56-Martin Truex Jr. 8. #24-Jeff Gordon 9. #5-Kasey Kahne 10. #55-Mark Martin 11. #51-Regan Smith 12. #16-Greg Biffle 13. #18-Kyle Busch 14. #39-Ryan Newman 15. #14-Tony Stewart 16. #1-Jamie McMurray 17. #17-Ricky Stenhouse Jr. 18. #31-Jeff Burton 19. #15-Clint Bowyer 20. #29-Kevin Harvick 21. #78-Kurt Busch 22. #43-Aric Almirola 23. #22-Joey Logano 24. #27-Paul Menard 25. #9-Marcos Ambrose 26. #42-Juan Montoya 27. #47-Bobby Labonte 28. #34-David Ragan 29. #13-Casey Mears 30. #10-Danica Patrick 31. #83-David Reutimann 32. #7-Dave Blaney 33. #38-David Gilliland 34. #30-David Stremme 35. #93-Travis Kvapil 36. #87-Joe Nemechek 37. #36-J.J. Yeley 38. #33-Landon Cassill 39. #95-Scott Speed 40. #35-Josh Wise 41. #32-Timmy Hill 42. #19-Mike Bliss 43. #98-Michael McDowell 793. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.07.2013 - 12:41 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) "I know I would do the same thing if I were in your position (and have experience doing so on this very board as a matter of fact)" I have to give you a ton of credit on that one, you stood by Jeff after Phoenix last year while the majority of us (led by me lol) were lining up with our torches ready to find him and hang him in the middle of town at high noon. "I've been very supportive of Jason Collins coming out as the first openly gay male athlete in the four major sports." I'll tell you what has made me happiest about this: the way everyone has been so united in their praise and support for him. In a country that's been SHARPLY divided in the last few days in a way I have never seen in my lifetime (I was born in '84 so I missed Vietnam and the civil rights movements of the 50's and 60's) its so refreshing to see this kind of unity over a hot button topic. I likewise am proud of Jason. I know people have trouble sometimes understanding that people can be both "Christian" and "supportive of gay rights", but a ton of us are. 794. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.07.2013 - 12:51 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Buttfumble has been the worst-of-the-worst on ESPN since Thanksgiving." How can it get any worse? Your season is already a running punchline. You are playing in primetime against the Super Bowl favorites. You step back to pass and immediately begin to panic. You just start running for your life, head down in "please don't let me get hit" mode as opposed to "try to tackle me and you will get a helmet to the jaws so hard the league will ban it for the '13 season" as perfected by All Day. You wind up slamming into your own lineman's gigantic ass. You immediately fumble and fall to the ground like a ton of bricks while a defensive member picks it up and trots in for a TD. Hell, I still laugh when I see it to this day. It has surpassed that shot of that guy from the '76 Yucks running towards the errant and live ball, trying to kick it while on the ground for some reason, missing by two feet, and falling down as "funniest play in NFL history". 795. jabber1990 posted: 05.07.2013 - 1:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Finch is shutting down? when? and can we also blame some of this on Kurt Busch? he kind of destoyed at least 18-20 racecars in 2012, thats an entire fleet for pretty much every other team right? 796. Cornys posted: 05.07.2013 - 1:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) As predicted by many of you the wider track in Talladega (compared to Daytona) produced a much better race and much better racing. I'd still like to see less multi-car crashes, but that's a part of the beast I'm afraid at a plate track. With Darlington being my favorite track I'm all the more excited for next weekend's race. It should be fun! 797. jabber1990 posted: 05.07.2013 - 1:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) oh and im cofused, people say ECR engines but I thought Childress and Ganassi got their engines from Hendrick 798. Cornys posted: 05.07.2013 - 1:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) In other news, what do you guys think of seeing the Brickyard 400 live? I have been pondering a decision to buy $70 tickets for Turn 4 tickets (avoiding the STUPID inside grandstand obstruction as much as possible). I'd probably have around $220 in it for me and my girl friend with gas, parking, tickets and food. Would it be worth it? I'm already going to Bristol for the 3rd straight year to see the night race (Nationwide and Cup). I might just wait until I see the weekend forecast for the race. It's not going to be any where close to selling out :/ 799. David posted: 05.07.2013 - 1:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I have to give you a ton of credit on that one, you stood by Jeff after Phoenix last year while the majority of us (led by me lol) were lining up with our torches ready to find him and hang him in the middle of town at high noon." I just wanted to stay out of it. I was afraid the site would explode. 800. David posted: 05.07.2013 - 1:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "oh and im cofused, people say ECR engines but I thought Childress and Ganassi got their engines from Hendrick" Ganassi switched to Hendrick motors this year, but RCR still uses their own engines. 801. Paul posted: 05.07.2013 - 1:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "and can we also blame some of this on Kurt Busch? he kind of destroyed at least 18-20 race cars in 2012" I don't think so because all the Cup teams got new bodies for this season, so any of those cars that Kurt tore up last year weren't going to be used this season anyways. I'm not clear if the chassis of the 2012 and 2013 cars are similar, but if they aren't, then I don't think we can fault Kurt for the current state of Phoenix Racing. Kurt even said on that "Outlaw" documentary (which even I though was a silly name) that he and his girlfriend Patricia were receiving offers from sponsors, but James Finch kept turning them down because he was hoping to "catch the big fish," so to speak. Finch has nobody to blame but himself for the lack of sponsorship on his race cars, although the economy certainly didn't make it any easier for him. "people say ECR engines but I thought Childress and Ganassi got their engines from Hendrick" RCR houses their own engines. EGR used to be in an alliance with RCR, but this this season they've switched to Hendrick engines. "I'd still like to see less multi-car crashes, but that's a part of the beast I'm afraid at a plate track." Some crashes are just a part of the beast, but I think there are a lot of crashes that are completely avoidable, like the two that we saw yesterday. Kyle Busch made a driver error when he clipped Kasey so early in the race, and then Stenhouse did what he does best by trying to squeeze his car into a whole that wasn't there and turned J.J. Yeley across the race track in the process. Drivers caused the two big crashes in Sunday's race, not Talladega. "you stood by Jeff after Phoenix last year while the majority of us (led by me lol) were lining up with our torches ready to find him and hang him in the middle of town at high noon." Does that make me a martyr? ;) lol. "You wind up slamming into your own lineman's gigantic ass." I've watched that play dozens of times, and I still can't figure out why his head hit hit lineman's ass. It would have been one thing if his hip hit the lineman's ass, causing a fumble, but for him to be in a Barry Sanders-like running stance with his shoulders about four feet above the ground when he ran into the lineman is simply amazing and one of the funniest plays in sports history. Sanchez was completely worthless last season, and I'll never understand why they kept him in the lineup the entire time. Getting benched would have been the best thing for his psyche, as well as the entire team's performance. 802. AveryNH posted: 05.07.2013 - 1:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I watched that game live thanksgiving night and my goodness.. as a pats fan nothing is sweeter than watching Sanchez smack the ground time after time. And the look of bewilderment on Rex Ryan's face was absolutely priceless. Not to mention the fact that was like the second or third time in a minute the Patriots scored a TD. Ahhhhh how sweet it is, oh did I mention I hate the Jets? 803. jabber1990 posted: 05.07.2013 - 2:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "and then Stenhouse did what he does best by trying to squeeze his car into a whole that wasn't there and turned J.J. Yeley across the race track in the process" a whole what? 804. David posted: 05.07.2013 - 2:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well played, jabber. Just in case you weren't joking, he meant "hole". 805. 83andJoe posted: 05.07.2013 - 2:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) >Finch is shutting down? when? After the Brickyard 400, supposedly. >and I'd rather not see this get turned into a Youtube-esque comment war At least there won't be anyone demanding more Minecraft... 806. Benjamin Lowe posted: 05.07.2013 - 2:34 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Buttfumble Legacy of the New York Jets 807. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.07.2013 - 3:27 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Is Finch leaving the new ''Mark Martin is retiring'' NASCAR news story? 808. Scott B posted: 05.07.2013 - 3:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Penske penalties upheld today, except the suspended personnel will only be out 2 points races plus the All-Star weekend instead of 6. 809. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.07.2013 - 3:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That seems in line with how the appeals board has dealt with Hendrick whenever they were caught cheating. Now we just have to wait and see how the Gibbs appeal goes. 810. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.07.2013 - 3:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Also, Brad apologized to David Ragan for all the fuss he kicked up over the last restart line up and admitted it was his team that dropped the ball on that. Hopefully he's learned a lesson from the fall out of putting both feet in his mouth and raining on a fellow underdog's victory(having won for James Finch). 811. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.07.2013 - 4:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Penske should be happy with the outcome, looking at the standings losing the crew chiefs, especially Paul Wolfe for Brad, were the biggest punishments. 812. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.07.2013 - 4:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) So, Aric Almirola in the 43 and Paul Menard are currently 7th and 8th in the standings, both less than 10 points behind Kasey Kahne in 6th. They're ahead of "The Great (at least according to the media and Vegas)" Kyle Busch, Greg Biffle, Matt Kenseth (although due to his penalty), Kevin Harvick, Truex, Gordon, ECR, SHR and Stenhouse as well as Logano. I guess the surprising thing is after this terrible season Gordon is 14th with an honest chance at making the chase, but heading to a track like Charlotte in two weeks Almirola and Menard (especially the latter of the two) may end up being chase contenders. 813. Kubica fan Ireland posted: 05.07.2013 - 4:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) My 10 favourite races on the schedule 1 Darlington southern 500 2 Watkins glen 3 Richmond autumn race 4 Bristol night 5 Martinsville autumn 6 Homestead 7 Talladega spring 8 Sonoma 9 Richmond spring 10 Daytona 500 814. Kubica fan Ireland posted: 05.07.2013 - 4:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) My 10 favourite races on the schedule 1 Darlington southern 500 2 Watkins glen 3 Richmond autumn race 4 Bristol night 5 Martinsville autumn 6 Homestead 7 Talladega spring 8 Sonoma 9 Richmond spring 10 Daytona 500 815. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.07.2013 - 5:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Cornys, although the racing there in stock cars is as bad as it gets, if I lived close enough, I would go to the Brickyard 400 just once just to say I have seen a major race at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. I crap all over the Brickyard 400 mercilessly, but IMS is stil IMS, and true historic monument. That is a chance I would like to have, just to go there. I can't stand the Yankees, but I would have jumped at the chance to go to a game at the old Yankee Stadium just bbecause of the history, even after the awful mid 70's renovation. But I wouldn't walk across the street to the new one. It is just another faceless ballpark. But honestly, #1 on my non racing sports facilities bucket list is to see a game at Lambeau. I know that will never happen as I am over 1000 miles away and the waiting list there is about a zillion people long, but I would love to watch a game live there. 816. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.07.2013 - 5:43 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Glad the suspensions got reduced, but furious they didn't get the same leniency Middlebrook gave his business partner Rick Hendrick last year when all points and suspensions were wiped away completely. I still count Gordon and Johnson among the best drivers ever, but all of HMS' accomplishments are officially "bought success" with dirty money and dirty business dealings. You just have to seperate "Gordon success" and "Johnson success" from "Hendrick sucess". 817. Jarrett88fan posted: 05.07.2013 - 5:45 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) A reduction in the race suspensions is the best Penske and Gibbs can hope for I suppose. I can't believe its been almost two years since we lost Macho Man Randy Savage. Watching his anthology on Netflix is fantastic, but seeing him strut out to the ring with Elizabeth is almost too much. The Macho Man's staged wedding at the 1992 Summerslam is one of the first WWF memories I have. He was one of my childhood favorites and no body in the world can deliver a flying elbow drop, snap into a Slim Jim, wear a flamboyant cowboy hat, or speak in a raspy voice quite like Randy Savage. OOOOOOOOOO YEAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! 818. Jarrett88fan posted: 05.07.2013 - 5:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Anything in Madison Square Garden is a bucket lister for sure. 819. Baker posted: 05.07.2013 - 5:58 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) What a shocker *rolls eyes* 820. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.07.2013 - 6:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) RaceHub is gonna have Dave Marcis one today, always wanted to know what he's been up to these days. 821. joey2448 posted: 05.07.2013 - 6:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I have a question, and this is kinda adding to what Cornys said in post 798. I'm planning to go to the Brickyard 400 on July 28, and I'm thinking of buying tickets in turn 1 which I think would be the best place to watch the race. Any ideas of where I can buy the best/cheapest tickets? And do you guys have any other ideas of where the best place to watch the race is? The only reason I think turn 1 would be good is because we'll be right up front to see the cars whiz by, while also being able to watch them come at us down the frontstretch... 822. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 05.07.2013 - 6:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Favourite or Biggest?? Favourite: 1. Rebel 500 (Southern 500) 2. Bristol Night Race (IRWIN Tools Night Race) 3. Richmond September Race (Federated Auto Parts 400) 4. Martinsville Spring Race (STP 500) 5. Watkins Glen (Watkins Glen 355) 6. Talladega Spring Race (Aarons 499) 7. Daytona 500 8. Homestead Championship (Ford EcoBoost 400) 9. Martinsville Fall (Goody's 500) 10. Atlanta (Labour Day 500) Biggest: 1. Daytona 500 2. Bristol Night Race 3. Rebel 500 4. World 600 (Coca Cola 600) 5. Talladega Spring Race 6. Brickyard 400 (sorry, this just isn't that big of a deal anymore in any matter) 7. Richmond September 8. Homestead Championship 9. Martinsville (both races, either or) 10. Coke Zero 400 823. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.07.2013 - 6:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Has it really been two years? Dang. I'll snap into a Slim Jim in his honor tonight. 824. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.07.2013 - 8:37 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Also, for the record, Brad issued an apology on his website with a link from Twitter to David Ragan for detracting from his victory. Brad screwed up, then manned up. It happens. And you can tell from the letter it isn't pr fluff. Thanks Brad for owning up to it and reminding me once again why I am a fan of yours. 825. David posted: 05.07.2013 - 8:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Also, for the record, Brad issued an apology on his website with a link from Twitter to David Ragan for detracting from his victory. Brad screwed up, then manned up. It happens. And you can tell from the letter it isn't pr fluff. Thanks Brad for owning up to it and reminding me once again why I am a fan of yours.' I'm very glad he did this. It restored my faith in him. He almost lost me as a fan. Also, I watched the clip from Race Hub, and that explained the entire restart controversy very nicely. 826. Benjamin Lowe posted: 05.07.2013 - 9:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Randy Savage died on May 20th & The Staged wedding between him and Elizabeth happened At Summerslam 91 not 92. 827. Jarrett88fan posted: 05.07.2013 - 9:51 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Almost two years since the Macho Man left the building and the "wedding" was 91 Summerslam. Regardless, it is likely the greatest loss next to Andre the Giant of the last 25 years in pro wrestling. In the early 1990s there were so many memorable characters like the Macho Man, Sgt. Slaughter, Jake the Snake Roberts, Rowdy Roddy Piper, Hacksaw Jim Duggan, the Natural Disasters, Legion of Doom, Mr. Perfect Curt Henning, and the western mortician incarnation of the Undertaker... just to name a few. In addition, Gorilla Monsoon and Bobby the Brain Hennan on commentary. Those two were the wrestling equivalent of Classic ESPN or the ABC broadcast team that covered the Indy 500 in the 1970s and 80s. 828. cjs3872 posted: 05.08.2013 - 6:58 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) By the way, it looks like Joey Logano is going to be in the Nationwide Series stand-alone race at Iowa next month (June 8, to be exact). I'm just mentioning that for those that care. I learned that last night. 829. The Long Shot posted: 05.08.2013 - 10:29 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well, as long as you posted that, cjs, I might as well post these nuggets: --Ryan Newman will not be penalized for his Talladega comments, according to NASCAR. While I'm happy that he wasn't penalized, I'm a bit surprised after Denny Hamlin was penalized $25,000 back in March for criticizing the new car. --Kenny Wallace will run the Truck race at Eldora Speedway. No team has been announced yet. Wallace has said he will run about 8 more Nationwide races as well. 830. cjs3872 posted: 05.08.2013 - 11:23 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) The Long Shot, the only reason I'm surpised Newman wasn't surprised for his vintage A.J. Foyt rant was that he may have slipped a profane word in. That's what he would most likely have been fined for. His rant did not critcize the "new car" in any way, but rather the decision making, as well as the fact that they can't seem to keep the cars on the ground, though in this case, it was weight transfer and not aerodynamics that sent Kurt Busch's car over in this instance. But I can certainly understand Newman's frustration, as this is at least the fifth instance I know of where he's been involved in a crash where a car got airborne, either with his car getting airborne or his car getting hit by a car getting airborne. 831. Cornys posted: 05.08.2013 - 1:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I really do think that the Gen-6 car will greatly improve the racing at IMS, but I'll probably just wait to see and go next year if it is in fact a good race this year. Joey2448, you should check the 3D model of the track at seats3d.com or through the IMS website (which links you there at their buy tickets page.) You probably won't beat the standard ticket price I'm afraid, so you may just want to call the speedway. I might be wrong though. I would LOVE turn 1 tickets, but I think you could see more for less $ in turn 4 just because there's no grandstands obstructing your view there. This being said everything I'm saying is based on the 3D model. This means it could be completely wrong. Has anybody been there in person for some advice? 832. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.08.2013 - 3:21 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) The penalties against JGR for the engine snafu at Kansas have been reduced. Kenseth and the 20 team will each lose only 12 points instead of 50, Toyota though had their points penalty increased from 5 to 7. Kenseth's win will once again count towards the chase. Also Jason Ratcliff will only be suspended for one race instead of six. He still has to pay $200,000 in fines however. 833. Anonymous posted: 05.08.2013 - 3:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 792. The Long Shot posted: Here are my predictions for this week's Bojangles' Southern 500 at Darlington. Results: 1. #48-Jimmie Johnson 2. #2-Brad Keselowski 3. #99-Carl Edwards 4. #88-Dale Earnhardt Jr. 5. #11-Denny Hamlin - - - Dude, we can't confirm that until we know DSFF is going to the race like Darlington 2011 or Martinsville this year. - - - - --Ryan Newman will not be penalized for his Talladega comments, according to NASCAR. While I'm happy that he wasn't penalized, I'm a bit surprised after Denny Hamlin was penalized $25,000 back in March for criticizing the new car. Very Relieving to hear that. 834. Destroyahirismix666 posted: 05.08.2013 - 3:23 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Comment #833 was me. I hate it when I do that! 835. Kubica fan Ireland posted: 05.08.2013 - 3:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Guys just wanted to know could someone put down the traditional names of the races without the sponsorship eg coke zero 400 is the firecracker400 836. cjs3872 posted: 05.08.2013 - 3:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Think so, Cornys? I certainly don't, because they'll be going way too fast. In a recent test, the cars were going over 210 MPH down the straightaways, with Jeff Gordon going 214. Gordon unofficially broke the track record for stock cars with a lap of over 187 MPH. In fact, the pole for the Brickyard 400 this year could be faster than any car went at Indy in 1976, and those cars had wings on them. (Mario Andretti was the fastest qualifier for that year's Indianapolis 500, though he was ineligible for the pole position.) A 190+ MPH lap is not out of the question on the flat, rounded-off rectangle, and that's far too fast for stock cars. In fact, it might be a crash-marred affair due to the high speeds, and I think tires might also be an issue on the grounded track surface. So far, the cars have done better than I thought they'd do on the mid-sized tracks, but those tracks are better at handling the speed than Indy is because they have much more banking, except for Auto Club Speedway, which has only slightly more banking than IMS does. 837. cjs3872 posted: 05.08.2013 - 3:33 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) New14 & 88Fan, to me, that's a strong admonishment toward NASCAR, because usually engine penalties are the harsest in the sport, as they should be, but for those penalties to be reduced to that degree without even having to go to the last step, that tells me that NASCAR went WAY over the line on their punishments, especially considering that JGR didn't even build that engine, and that the infraction was unintentional. 838. Anonymous posted: 05.08.2013 - 3:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) If we've learned anything over the past few days, it's that NASCAR issuing tough penalties is all for show and they don't really intend to penalize these teams. If you cheat or use parts that give you an unfair advantage, you'll ultimately be rewarded. Matt Kenseth's 12 point "penalty" is meaningless, because he will definitely make the Cha$e anyway, and he'll still have the 3 bonus points acquired with the unfair advantage. If NASCAR wants these penalties to mean anything (which it's pretty obvious they don't), they'd take the 12 points off both from current standings and beginning of Cha$e standings (assuming he makes it, which he will). Furthermore, getting bonus points for cheating is absurd and sends the wrong message. Who's to say a team solidly in the top 5 can't just start cheating around race 23 and drive super-rigged cars to race wins? After all, the penalties (if caught) won't be severe enough to knock them out of the Cha$e, and if they win they get 3 extra points towards the championship, so there's absolutely nothing to lose! 839. The Final Gear posted: 05.08.2013 - 3:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I was happy with the penalties being reduced. I believe somebody stated that the rods would actually be weaker under pressure if they were reduced in weight. It was not a huge performance advantage either, I would assume the 20 would have been the fastest car that weekend without it. Either way, the 20 and 48 are in another league right now. The 2, 5 and 18 are the closest competition but the chase could easily be those two ahead of the rest of the field by 15-20 points. 840. Paul posted: 05.08.2013 - 4:26 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "could someone put down the traditional names of the races without the sponsorship" Current Races: The Shootout (Sprint Unlimited) Duel Races/Twin Qualifiers (Budweiser Duel) Daytona 500 Southeastern 500 (spring Bristol) Virginia 500 (spring Martinsville) Richmond 400 (spring Richmond) Winston 500 (spring Talladega) Rebel 500 (spring Darlington) All-Star Race World 600 (spring Charlotte) Mason-Dixon 500 (spring Dover) Pocono 400 (June Pocono) Motor State 400 (June Michigan) Firecracker 400 (July Daytona) Brickyard 400 (Indy) Pennsylvania 400 (August Pocono) Yankee 400 (August Michigan) Volunteer 500 (Bristol night) Dixie 500 (Atlanta) Capital City 400 (Richmond) Delaware 500 (fall Dover) National 500 (fall Charlotte) Talladega 500 (fall Talladega) Old Dominion 500 (fall Martinsville) Former Races: Southern 500 (Labor Day Darlington) Gwyn Staley 400 (spring North Wilkesboro) Wilkes 400 (fall North Wilkesboro) Carolina 500 (spring Rockingham) American 500 (fall Rockingham) Music City 420 (Nashville) Winston Western 500 (fall Riverside) Atlanta 500 (fall Atlanta) 841. Kubica fan Ireland posted: 05.08.2013 - 4:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Thanks Paul greatly appreciated 842. David posted: 05.08.2013 - 5:04 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) "If we've learned anything over the past few days, it's that NASCAR issuing tough penalties is all for show and they don't really intend to penalize these teams." Tell that to Carl Long. 843. The Long Shot posted: 05.08.2013 - 5:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Tell that to Carl Long." Or Jeremy Mayfield, Michael Waltrip, Travis Kvapil, Martin Truex, etc... 844. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.08.2013 - 5:51 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I think the panel did the right thing with the #20 team. I think the final penalties against the team was appropriate. Glad the "Joe Gibbs suspension as owner" farce was reduced, that his win counts to the playoffs again, and Ratcliff's suspension was reduced. And I must say I LOVE the incresae in penalties towards Toyota in the manufacturers title. Though I would be lying if I didn't say I wish the 2 team got a similar huge reduction across the board. 845. The Sound posted: 05.08.2013 - 5:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #794 - Speaking of terrible football plays, I was the beneficiary of one such play during my JV football season three years ago. We were playing by far the worst team in the league, Galesburg, (our league was already bad enough) and they were running a shotgun formation. The center snapped the ball over the QB's head, and it landed right past the goal line. As the LDE, I arrived first, though the QB beat me to it. He attempted to kick the ball out of the back of the end zone and completely whiffed. I was the happy beneficiary and scored my only career touchdown (sort of difficult to score as a lineman on both sides of the ball) by merely falling on the ball. Also, has anyone ever been to a race at Michigan? Now that I am old enough to be working summer jobs, I plan to purchase tickets to both races this year. I have found tickets as low as $25 for the backstretch grandstand on the MIS website. 846. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.08.2013 - 6:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think looking now, Penske would have gotten their penalties reduced because their offense was much lesser, but Brad shot any chances they had full of holes with his arrogant SOB attitude. Good for Gibbs. 847. Kubica Fan Ireland posted: 05.08.2013 - 6:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Anoter point on the different tracks is trophies.I know martinsville gives you a grandfather clock and Las vegas gives you a belt like boxing any other special trophies thanks 848. cjs3872 posted: 05.08.2013 - 6:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) DSFF and NicoRosbergFan, the reason I think the penalties to JGR were mostly overturned (except fr the fine) while the ones handed to Penske's two teams were mostly kept intact had to do with one thing, and that one thing was intent. It's almost universally believed that Penske tried to get around some of NASCAR's suspension rules while in the case of Kenseth, what JGR did was clearly unintentional, hence most of JGR's penalties were overturned. This was clearly a case of intent proving to be the difference between the two sets of penalties and why one was mostly overturned while the other was mostly kept in tact. Also, it's interesting to note that the point penalty to Toyota in the manufacturer's championship was INCREASED from 5 to 7 points. Also, I want to commend the webmaster for his promptness in changing the point standings to reflect Kenseth's getting 38 points back. That also changes things in regards to the Chase standings, as it knocks Greg Biffle out of the current top ten, as Kenseth moves from 11th to fourth with this decision. 849. JG24FanForever posted: 05.08.2013 - 7:25 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "You just have to seperate "Gordon success" and "Johnson success" from "Hendrick sucess"." Without Gordon as driver of the #24 and owner of the #48 Hendrick isn't quite as successful. Without Gordon: 1 Championship out of 10 is a Hendrick only championship. 63 wins out of 212 are Hendrick only. And if anyone wants to debate over the validity of Gordon being the owner of the #48,Gordon discovered Johnson,paired Chad Knaus with Johnson,landed Lowes for the sponsorship,and even did a year public appearances for Lowes as a part of the sponsorship agreement. Gordon is also listed as 75% owner of the #48. What is Hendrick without Jeff Gordon? 850. JG24FanForever posted: 05.08.2013 - 7:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Top 10 worst Jeff Gordon crashes: -1. Texas 1999 -2. Spring Darlington 2004 -3. Watkins Glen 2009 -4. Las Vegas 2008 -5. Pocono 2006 -6. World 600 2007 -7. Richmond 1998 -8. Fall Charlotte 1994 -9. Spring Dover qualifying 2009 10. Spring Texas 2010 I thought book-ending the list with Texas was appropriate. 851. murb posted: 05.08.2013 - 8:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "-1. Texas 1999 -2. Spring Darlington 2004 -3. Watkins Glen 2009 -4. Las Vegas 2008 -5. Pocono 2006 -6. World 600 2007 -7. Richmond 1998 -8. Fall Charlotte 1994 -9. Spring Dover qualifying 2009 10. Spring Texas 2010" Pocono 2006 HAS to be at the top. 852. JG24FanForever posted: 05.08.2013 - 8:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Pocono 2006 HAS to be at the top." Texas 1999 was against a concrete wall at full speed and Jeff has stated that wreck could have killed him. 853. Paul posted: 05.08.2013 - 8:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "-1. Texas 1999" That was one of those wrecks that didn't look bad at first, but when you saw the on-board camera of the crash and Gordon's painful reaction as he was trying to get out of the car, you could tell he was in a lot of pain. Violent crash, and I have no problem with this being #1. "-2. Spring Darlington 2004" Perfect example of Tony Stewart's hypocrisy. It's just fine for him to dump a slower car (Andy Hillenburg) on a relatively high speed track early in the race because they're in his way, taking Gordon out in the process, but when the shoe is on the other foot, such as Richmond a few weeks ago when Kurt Busch moved him out of the way in the middle of a corner on a slower race track with a lap to go, he gets all pissy and tries to start a fight after the race. "-7. Richmond 1998" And the fans of Richmond, Virginia do their best Philadelphia Eagles fans impression by cheering Gordon for wrecking. Sadly for those people, Gordon's career did not end the way Michael Irvin's would a year later, so they wouldn't get to enjoy that crash as the years went by. Not sure why fans in the Commonwealth get away with that historically, but to me they're no better than those Eagles fans who cheered as Michael Irvin's career ended right in front of them. Also, the way Gordon's '98 season turned out is exactly why I think he is better than Darrell Waltrip, despite their similar statistics. When Waltrip got wrecked by an asshole at Richmond in 1986, his career never truly recovered from that crash, as he never won another championship and his last win would come just six years later. Whereas with Gordon, he went on to murder the competition after the sandy-haired has-been intentionally wrecked him at Richmond 12 years later, won two of the next four championships and 14 years later is still a NASCAR winner. Gordon recovered from his wreck in the Commonwealth, Waltrip didn't. End of discussion. And since I'm on the subject of Jeff Gordon and Rusty Wallace (an underrated rivalry IMO), they had another incident at Richmond in 2001 when Gordon brake-checked Rusty after the race, leading to Rusty angrily pointing his finger at Gordon from his car and confronting him after the race. I guess it's not okay when the shoe is on the other foot as far as Rusty was concerned. Notice the similarities between he and Stewart. "10. Spring Texas 2010" Personally, I would have put Gordon's fall Texas 2010 wreck ahead of the spring wreck. The thing that made the spring wreck bad was that he got caught up in a wreck on a restart after having the dominant car all race, whereas in the fall he was hooked by Jeff Burton under caution and sent head-on into the wall. 854. JG24FanForever posted: 05.08.2013 - 8:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Another great thing about Talladega is Gordon spent the majority of the race a lap down,outside the Top 25,while Kenseth spent a record breaking(Gordon's at that)142 laps in first. And in the end Aric Almirola and Scott Speed were the only drivers between the two in the finishing order. 855. murb posted: 05.08.2013 - 9:13 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "leading to Rusty angrily pointing his finger at Gordon from his car" Classic image from my childhood. 856. Cornys posted: 05.08.2013 - 9:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The Auto Club race was pretty good I thought. Not only that, but I think that the higher speeds will increase the effect of the draft at IMS like the 500 saw last year with the IndyCars. All the passing occurs on the straights at Indy anyways unless somebody gets really brave or stupid. I think it could be pretty exciting. Higher speeds through the corners mean higher speeds in the straights and closer to terminal velocity. Closer to terminal velocity means that the draft is more effective. I do hope that tires won't be an issue. Your bring up a good point there. Hope you're wrong though ;). Nothing personal :) We'll just have to see though. I didn't thumb down your comment cjs3872. I don't know who did. 857. The Long Shot posted: 05.08.2013 - 10:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Pocono 2006 HAS to be at the top." "Texas 1999 was against a concrete wall at full speed and Jeff has stated that wreck could have killed him." Nevertheless, that wreck needs to be higher than 5th on that list. That was one of the most vicious hits I've ever seen. 858. cjs3872 posted: 05.08.2013 - 10:34 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Cornys, it's not the higher speeds that lead to more drafting, but rather the aerodynamics of the cars. In the case of last year's Indianapolis 500, it had to do with the new bodies of the cars, which created a much bigger hole in the air for others to follow, hence the increased drafting effect. If there is more drafting with the Cup cars, it would be because of the bigger spoilers, whch also cause the cars to leave a bigger hole in the air for those folowing to get a draft off of. But my point is that they'll be going so much faster that they won't be able to get close enough for the draft to have any effect because they won't be able to turn their car in the dirty air. Remember that they're going about as fast now as the IndyCars were going when they first encountered this problem in the 1970s. Also, the groove at Indy has almost always been one to one and a half cars wide, so there's no very much room to maneuver, if there's any at all, and there really never has been there. That's why the racing is not going to get any better, and the increased speeds may actually cause the groove to narrow, which may cause more crashes there than usual. The other races on high-speed tracks have been on multi-groove tracks and IMS is the farthest thing from that, as IMS has alway been mainly a one-groove track. You just can't run side-by-side there and the drivers, regardless of whether it's NASCAR or the Indianapolis 500, know it. 859. The Long Shot posted: 05.08.2013 - 10:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Dude, we can't confirm that until we know DSFF is going to the race like Darlington 2011 or Martinsville this year." Um, what? Destroyahirismix666, your comment makes no sense. So I can't confirm my predictions until DSFF decides whether or not he's going to the race? As much respect as I have for DSFF as an elite NASCAR mind, he doesn't have any say in when I make my race predictions. No offense, DSFF. ;) 860. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.08.2013 - 10:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'd put the Vegas 2008 wreck on top cause that led to a back injury that just wouldn't go away and kept getting reaggravated after every hit for the next 3 years. They made '08-'10 a complete write off. I know the Pocono hit was probably harder and the Texas '99 hit was definitely the most initially painful, but Vegas was the "worst" of his career. Much like Dale's '96 Dega wreck ruined his years until 2000, Jeff's Vegas wreck basically stole 3 years of his career. Unnfortunately, he ended his "injury" years after 2010 only to enter his "snakebit" years. Also, excellent comparison of the intentional wrecks in the Spring Richmond races of '86 and '98. Both changed the course of NASCAR history. Oddly enough, Rusty is one of the few drivers Jeff calls a friend off the track, they used to hang out in the Bahamas a lot. Much like he did with Dale, Rusty raced his friends harder and dirtier than anyone else. 861. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.08.2013 - 10:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) None taken Long Shot. I will be at Darlington this weekend. I didn't go in 2011, I went last year. Had I been there in 2011, there is no way Regan Smith wins that race, JJ would have somehow. Oh, my prediction for this weekend: Jimmie Johnson wins. My reasoning: cause I'll be there. My only other time going to Darlington was the '98 Labor Day Souther 500 and it was HOT!! 862. JG24FanForever posted: 05.08.2013 - 10:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "My only other time going to Darlington was the '98 Labor Day Souther 500 and it was HOT!" I've been to seven total Cup series races and i've seen seven different winners. 2002 Southern 500 winner: Jeff Gordon(A big reason for my fandom.) 2008 World 600 winner: Kasey Kahne(I totally cursed Stewart in this race.) 2008 Fall Charlotte winner: Jeff Burton's last win 2009 Southern 500 winner: Mark Martin(Johnson started 42nd and finished 2nd.) 2010 Southern 500 winner: Denny Hamlin(Johnson's worst crash!) 2011 Southern 500 winner: Regan Smith(Me and my friend's were the only excited people around us after this win.) 2012 Southern 500 winner: Jimmie Johnson(The peak of Gordon's bad luck.) I won't be there this year,i'm actually looking forward to seeing it on T.V for the first time in 6 year's. 863. 18fan posted: 05.08.2013 - 11:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Winners of the races I've been to: 2008 Fall Phoenix: Jimmie Johnson 2009 Fall Fontana: Jimmie Johnson (Made worse by Kyle being relieved early due to the flu) 2010 Fall Fontana: Tony Stewart 2011 Fontana: Kevin Harvick (The last time I rooted for Harvick to win a race, I was so happy when he beat Jimmie) 2012 Fontana: Tony Stewart (The race was called so fast after the red flag that I was only about 15 minutes from the track and the race was over, having left when the race was red-flagged) 2013 Fontana: Kyle Busch (Definitely the best Cup race I've been to, great racing all day, and my favorite driver won after a couple near misses in races I was at. I saw Kyle coming and I was speechless when Kyle went by and then Joey and Denny crashed.) 864. David posted: 05.08.2013 - 11:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "They made '08-'10 a complete write off." And Jeff still managed to win Texas '09, lead the series in top tens and average finish and tie for the series lead in top tens the same year, and accumulate a 2.153 PEER over the three-year span (including a 2.903 in 2009). A pretty impressive stretch of driving injured, if you ask me. 865. JG24FanForever posted: 05.08.2013 - 11:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "2008 Fall Phoenix: Jimmie Johnson" I hope you're jealous that i've been to the Southern 500 five times. Because I envy the fact that you've been to Phoenix "The Darlington of the west". "2013 Fontana: Kyle Busch (Definitely the best Cup race I've been to, great racing all day, and my favorite driver won after a couple near misses in races I was at. I saw Kyle coming and I was speechless when Kyle went by and then Joey and Denny crashed.)" I'm happy for you. You couldn't have been to a greater Kyle Busch win this side of his Darlington win in 2008. 866. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.08.2013 - 11:49 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I've long since lost track of every race I've been to. Here are the drivers I have seen win live as I remember them: Dale: Only 3 times (Wilkesboro '91 and '95, the '93 World 600) Johnson: Way too freaking many! All 8 Martinsville wins, 2 World 600 wins, a Fall Charlotte win, 2012 Southern 500 Gordon: Two World 600's (but not his first one), the '98 Southern 500, 4 times at Martinsville Rusty: 2 or 3 times at Wilkesboro, his last career win at Martinsville Geoff Bodine: *sighs* twice at Wilkesboro (the last caution free short track race and the last time a winner has lapped the field) Davey: Once at Wilkesboro, once in the Fall Charlotte race, once at my only Rockingham race Mark: Once or twice at Wilkesboro, one Fall Charlotte race TLab: once or twice at Wilkesboro BLab: his first career win at Charlotte Stewart: Twice at Martinsville Jeff Burton: twice in the 600 Kasey: the '06 World 600 Darrell: his first win in the Western Auto car at Wilkesboro (17 cautions!) Kurt Busch: surprisingly at Martinsville Denny: 3 times at Martinsville Harvick: once at Martinsville, sadly the race that sealed his bogus "closer" reputation Brett Bodine: Wilkesboro, scoring error While we are at it, legends that have crashed right in front of me: Alan: Once at Wilkesboro, pounded the inside wall Bill: The badass Thunderbat car '95 World 600, Martinsville '02, 2005 World 600 Rusty: '95 World 600 Gordon: 2005 World 600, Martinsville 2010 Rudd: Martinsville '05 Stewart: '06 World 600 Mark: 2005 World 600 TLab: Wilkesboro '90, 2005 World 600 (can you tell I was in Turns 1&2 for that race?) Legends that have crashed right in front of me, had the back of their car knocked off, lost two laps, made them up, and finished 2nd: Gordon: '04 Charlotte Fall 867. 18fan posted: 05.09.2013 - 12:06 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Outside of going to a Daytona 500, my dream race to go to is Darlington. 868. The Long Shot posted: 05.09.2013 - 12:12 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Oh, my prediction for this weekend: Jimmie Johnson wins. My reasoning: cause I'll be there." Excellent reasoning. I guess your prediction and mine are one and the same then, eh? 869. BON GORDON posted: 05.09.2013 - 12:43 am Rate this comment: (2) (0) I really have not been to many races but here are the three I've been to. 1. 2003 MBNA Armed Forces Family 400 @ Dover (Winner: Ryan Newman, Jeff Gordon 2nd) 2. 2007 Goody's Cool Orange 500 @ Martinsville (Winner: Jimmie Johnson, Jeff Gordon 2nd) 3. 2012 Pennsylvania 500 @ Pocono (Winner: Jeff Gordon) It looks like I need to go to some races this year cause Jeff usually does pretty well. 870. Paul posted: 05.09.2013 - 12:53 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I'd put the Vegas 2008 wreck on top cause that led to a back injury that just wouldn't go away and kept getting reaggravated after every hit for the next 3 years." You make a good point. Texas '99 and Pocono '06 were arguably more painful at first, but Las Vegas '08 had the worst long-term effects and pretty much ruined three years of his career (even though he managed to finish a distant 3rd in points in 2009). Of course, there's a good chance that that injury would have never happened if Las Vegas had SAFER barriers all the way around the race tracks. "Oddly enough, Rusty is one of the few drivers Jeff calls a friend off the track, they used to hang out in the Bahamas a lot." Don't forget that Rusty also jinxed Jeff's 2012 season by predicting that he would win the championship. And that exchange between the two at Chicago (I think) last year was pretty priceless, as Rusty had just a couple weeks earlier accused Jeff of not being focused behind the wheel, and Jeff goes on to finish 3rd, 2nd, and 2nd coming into the Chase. Thanks for the motivation, Rusty! "I didn't go in 2011, I went last year." Make sure to take some video of the race/post-race like you did last year. "Oh, my prediction for this weekend: Jimmie Johnson wins. My reasoning: cause I'll be there." The only thing funnier than that would be if Denny Hamlin won. Your attendance will be just what Denny needs to get back to his old form and win in just his second race back from injury. I hope you're happy with yourself. :) "2008 Fall Charlotte winner: Jeff Burton's last win ... 2012 Southern 500 winner: Jimmie Johnson(The peak of Gordon's bad luck.)" Those are the only two races that you attended that I watched live on TV. The Southern 500 last year was absolute misery for me to watch. Johnson dominates and seemed destined to give Rick Hendrick his 200th win, the FOX crew was jumping up and down hoping to see Hendrick get win #200, Gordon flattens the same tire twice in about two laps, Kurt Busch wrecks himself after running top ten all night. Just awful. I shut the TV off as soon as Johnson took the checkered flag, and thankfully missed the entire Kurt Busch/#39 crew scuffle on pit road. "2011 Fontana: Kevin Harvick (The last time I rooted for Harvick to win a race, I was so happy when he beat Jimmie)" The closest I came to rooting for Harvick to win a race was at the 2011 Coca-Cola 600 when he passed Dale Earnhardt, Jr. coming out of turn 4 on the last lap for the win after Junior ran out of fuel. I laughed my ass off that NASCAR's plan to rig the win in favor of Junior by not throwing the caution for the wreck in turn 1 with two laps to go, which left Jeff Burton's car stalled on the apron and Brad Keselowski's car limping around the race track with debris flying off his car, because Junior didn't have enough fuel for a G-W-C restart. Serves them right to have their plan to rig the finish blow up in their face the way it did. "2012 Fontana: Tony Stewart (The race was called so fast after the red flag that I was only about 15 minutes from the track and the race was over, having left when the race was red-flagged)" Even though the racing was pretty awful in this race, it was nice to see an incredibly long green flag run without any "debris" cautions thrown in this era. "accumulate a 2.153 PEER over the three-year span (including a 2.903 in 2009)." I think a lot of that had to do with the lack of competition from non-Hendrick teams in that time frame, especially in 2009. Just look at how all the competitive non-Hendrick teams did that season. Roush could do little after winning the first two races, Gibbs was very inconsistent across the board (especially from the #18 team), Penske had Kurt Busch and nothing else, RCR was terrible. Brian Vickers and David Reutimann's combined win total was the same as Roush's and Penske's, and two more than all four RCR teams. All Jeff had to do was show up every week and race conservatively in his superior Hendrick equipment, and he was guaranteed a top five points finish. Jimmie Johnson was the man that season, winning seven times and had his most dominant championship season, Mark Martin came out of semi-retirement and won five times with Alan "freaking" Gustafson as his crew chief, both Tony Stewart and Ryan Newman made the Chase with a team that had been yearly backmarkers prior to the 2009 HMS alliance, and Brad Keselowski won at Talladega in what was essentially a Hendrick-powered Phoenix Racing car. I think that goes to show you how superior Hendrick's equipment was that season for a wounded Jeff Gordon to lead the series in top tens and finish 3rd in points. Plus, that only adds to Jeff's legacy to run the whole season at less than 100%, get injured twice more during the season, and still have as good a season as he did. Earnhardt would have been proud of him for that, and possibly a little jealous since Gordon had more wins in '09 than he had in '97, the season after their respective career-altering injuries. "I'm happy for you. You couldn't have been to a greater Kyle Busch win this side of his Darlington win in 2008." I was happy for 18fan as well. It's always exciting to go to a sports event and see your favorite team win, especially in such memorable fashion as Kyle did at Fontana. The finish reminded me a lot of the 2009 Nationwide race at Michigan where Kyle and Brian Vickers were battling hard for the win, but wound up slowing each other down and allowed Brad Keselowski to swoop in out of nowhere and take the win away from them, so it was nice to see the racing gods give Kyle the speed he needed to win that race in a similar way to how he lost an event a few years earlier. Plus, Kyle also gets some sympathy points for that victory because of how overshadowed it was by the Hamlin/Logano/Stewart love triangle that became the biggest story after the race. 871. Paul posted: 05.09.2013 - 1:09 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Johnson: Way too freaking many! All 8 Martinsville wins" I think it's time we have an intervention and keep you from going to Martinsville for a little while. "Kurt Busch: surprisingly at Martinsville" I don't know what I'm more surprised by from the 2002 fall race: The fact that Kurt Busch actually won at Martinsville (I had completely forgotten he won there until you brought this up), or that Jeff Gordon decided to transform into his buddy Rusty's son and run over several drivers on arguably his best race track en route to a 36th place finish. Looking back, it's hard to believe that that race happened. "Geoff Bodine: *sighs* twice at Wilkesboro (the last caution free short track race and the last time a winner has lapped the field)" You witnessed history, my friend, as it's very unlikely that either of those two accomplishments will ever be achieved again. You can put those right next to witnessing Brett Bodine's lone Winston Cup win on your "Historical events that I've witnessed in racing" list. "Harvick: once at Martinsville, sadly the race that sealed his bogus "closer" reputation" "The Vulture" strikes again! "Gordon:...Martinsville 2010" I love it when my two favorite active drivers wreck each other, sort of as a payback to what happened eight years earlier. Both times Kurt got the last laugh. "Legends that have crashed right in front of me, had the back of their car knocked off, lost two laps, made them up, and finished 2nd: Gordon: '04 Charlotte Fall" Won't ever happen again. Feel free to rank that moment ahead of those three Bodine historical moments haha. "It looks like I need to go to some races this year cause Jeff usually does pretty well." What's keeping you from going to every race? Come on, man, we need you! Lol. 872. Paul posted: 05.09.2013 - 2:02 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Here are a few other news items in NASCAR that weren't covered earlier: - Wrigley is pulling its new "Alert Energy Caffeine Gum" from the market temporarily due to concerns from the FDA about the product. This could possibly affect Elliott Sadler's part-time Cup ride for the remainder of the season as Wrigley had sponsored him in his two Cup attempts this season, including at Kansas when the Alert Energy product was on the car. - Joe Nemechek will be sponsored by RoyalTeakCollection.com on his Cup team this weekend at Darlington. Always good to see the lower budgeted teams secure sponsorship and be able to run the full race, which I've noticed has been more frequent in NASCAR this season, especially in the Sprint Cup Series. - Kurt Busch will be testing an Indy car at Indianapolis later this week, possibly with hopes of attempting the Indianapolis 500 either this year or next (most likely next year, if at all). Tony Stewart, who himself has competed in five Indy 500 events in his career, has expressed his support for Kurt and is willing to help him out in preparing for the race if necessary, saying that Kurt could definitely make the field if paired with the right team. As much as I've criticized Stewart in the past (which includes earlier today as a matter of fact), he does seem to have a very short memory when it comes to on-track incidents and doesn't hold any grudges against any drivers (see him the week after Bristol last summer when he and Matt Kenseth were seen leisurely talking to each other in the garage area). - Aric Almirola has a chance to do something this weekend that hasn't been done since 1983, which is finish in the top ten for five consecutive races in the #43 car. He has only one NASCAR top ten at Darlington (2010 Truck race) and finished 19th there last year in Cup, and has a poor record at Bristol, Loudon, and Pocono (1 combined top ten finish), which are the three tracks that are most correlated with Darlington according to our friend Sean's formula chart on MotorsportsAnalytics.com, so it's likely that his top ten streak will come to an end this weekend. That being said, considering how much he has improved since last season, including equaling his 2012 top ten total in just 10 starts, I'd say there's a pretty good chance that Almirola will surprise me by extending his top ten streak another week at Darlington. If he can do that, considering his relatively poor record on those four tracks, then that will tell me that he has improved a great deal from last season and that he is for real in 2013. 873. cjs3872 posted: 05.09.2013 - 8:55 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well Paul, it's great to see the #43 competitive on a weekly basis, though this week will be a challenge, since the #43 never really has been that great at Darlington, even when Richard Petty drove it. But the fact that it has finished in the top ten in four straight races gives old time fans that remember when the #43 was like the #48 is now something to cheer for. and the fact hat the #43 car is mostly blue for the first time in ages doesn't hurt that, either. And perhaps that's no accident. And by the way, one of those that was on the panel that mostly overturned the JGR penalties was Jack Housby, the same Jack Housby the sat on the front row for the 1973 Daytona 500 with 1970 Daytona 500 winner Pete Hamilton. However, Hamilton finished last after completing just 33 laps with engine trouble. Housby returned to Daytona in 1980 wth his son Kevin, but they had an inglorious race, getting in an incident with Chuck Bown, one of only two on-track incidents in that race (the other was between Cale Yarborough and Dave Marcis after the halfway point), and eventually dropping out. 874. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.09.2013 - 9:31 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) Honestly, I think we may see a return to regular top-5s for Petty Motorsports if this keeps up. The way Almirola is driving, Ford should make Petty the "A" team and Roush the "B" team. 875. Flywheel posted: 05.09.2013 - 9:40 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) @#779 How do you dish someone? Paul, he without sin casts the first stone. You don't know if Stenhouse and Danica are sexually active. There's something in the Bible about slandering someone too. As for Danica, I'm convinced she's a cancer to whatever team she's on. JR Motorsports is flourishing with Regan Smith. SHR is in the dumpster. 876. AveryNH posted: 05.09.2013 - 10:08 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Winston/Nextel/Sprint Cup races I've been too: 1999 MBNA Gold 400- Bobby Labonte 2000 Dura Lube 300 (yes, the infamous restrictor plate race)- Jeff Burton 2004 Siemens 300- Kurt Busch 2008 Lenox Tools 301- Kurt Busch (some things never change) 2009 Sylvania 300- Mark Martin (my favorite race I've attended) 2010 Lenox Tools 301- Jimmie Johnson 2011 Lenox Tools 301- Ryan Newman (surprisingly a fun race to watch.. incredibly hot that day though) 2012 Lenox Tools 301- Kasey Khane ( this race was so awful I purposefully got lost on the way home to make the day more interesting.) My wishlist of tracks to visit (in no particular order): Watkins Glen, Michigan, Martinsville, and Richmond. 877. cjs3872 posted: 05.09.2013 - 11:59 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Flywheel, what took so long to convince you that Danica's a cancer to whatever team she's with? I've been saying that for at least a year now. She was a cancer to the IndyCar teams of Bobby Rahal and Michael Andretti, the Nationwide team of Dale, Jr., and now she seems to be having that same influence on Steve Turner's Nationwide team, and she's draggin Stewart-Haas down, as well. Just look at what happened with Michael's IndyCar team after she left. They won a championship with Ryan Hunter-Reay, and the very same thing may well end up happening with Dale, Jr.'s NNS team after Danica left there. Rahal's team might have rebounded as well, but they went out of business for two or three years before returning last year. I had feling something like this might happen to Stewart-Haas Racing, but I thought that Tony wouldn't allow something like that to happen, but I guess I was wrong. 878. David posted: 05.09.2013 - 12:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I have been to exactly one Cup race: 2010 Price Chopper 400 presented by Kraft Foods - Greg Biffle won, and I got to witness the infamous Kyle Busch-David Reutimann on-track spat, though I didn't think much of it at the time. I have been to two Nationwide races, though: 2010 Kansas Lottery 300 - Joey Logano won. 2012 Kansas Lottery 300 - Ricky Stenhouse, Jr. won. 879. David posted: 05.09.2013 - 12:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Danicancer 880. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.09.2013 - 12:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Danica Craptrick 881. David posted: 05.09.2013 - 12:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Danicancer Hacktrick, the Baroness of Backmarkers. 882. Cornys posted: 05.09.2013 - 1:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I was at the 2001 Kmart 400 at Michigan - Jeff Gordon won (I was 6, the race was pretty good though) Next race was the 2011 Quaker State 400 at Kentucky - Kyle Busch won. Race wasn't all that great, and the winner was really predictable. Then I went to the 2011 IRWIN Tools Night race at Bristol. Brad K. won and it was not the greatest race. It was an experiance to be at Bristol for the first time in my life though. I recomend going to anybody ;) Then the 2012 FedEx 400 at Dover. Jimmie dominated which made my GF happy at her first race, but I thought it was a little boring. I'd recommend going to Dover. It's a nice place to watch a race. Don't shy away from the turn 1 seats about half way up. Probably the best in the house. Better than the front strech actually because you see pit-exit and the start/finish without obstructions from other fans ;) Then the 2012 Quaker State 400 at Kentucky. THis was probably the worst race I've ever been to. Took my 72 year old grandma to this one. She liked it. She's watched NASCAR for about 10 years now thanks to me and she's more interested than I am :P. I wanted to take her before she couldn't go. Race was bad, but the experiance was worth it. Brad K. won this one. Then the 2012 IRWIN Tools Night Race at Bristol on the new surface. This was probably the best race I've ever been to. Stewart threw his helmet at Kenseth right in front of us. I recommend getting seats in the corners about 15 rows up or in the straights 20 or more rows up. Preferably you'd get front stretch tickets though. I know I'll be headed to Bristol for the Night Race again this year with my GF thanks to her parents buying our tickets form the previous 2 years so we don't lose them. Her dad doesn't want to go due to work so I actually still end up going. I'll take it ;) I've caused 5 people to their first NASCAR races, and it'll be 7 after this year's Bristol night race. It's pretty cool, and I have a problem. I'll admit it. I'm addicted ;) 883. David posted: 05.09.2013 - 1:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jimmie Johnson is running his "Dover White" paint scheme with emerald stripes this weekend at Darlington. It appears that the #48 will be white for all the night races this year. This reminds me of how the #6 of Mark Martin reversed its Viagra colors for night races in 2005. 884. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.09.2013 - 5:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "2012 Lenox Tools 301- Kasey Khane ( this race was so awful I purposefully got lost on the way home to make the day more interesting.)" I have been to some Charlotte races where it would be very tempting to get lost on purpose afterwards, but the races there never end until 11 at freaking night. And I didn't start working night shift until 2011, five years after swearing I'd never watch another Cup race at Charlotte again until something drastic changes (I've held true to that). " You don't know if Stenhouse and Danica are sexually active." That's an image I didn't need (am I the only male alive that doesn't find her attractive at all?) "I don't know what I'm more surprised by from the 2002 fall race: The fact that Kurt Busch actually won at Martinsville (I had completely forgotten he won there until you brought this up), or that Jeff Gordon decided to transform into his buddy Rusty's son" I'm not gonna lie, that was a pretty embarrassing performance from Jeff. It looked like 1993 again, he hit EVERYTHING! Then he had to co host the next day's "Inside Winston Cup" show where Schrader gave him hell. That should be every driver's punishment when they have a race like that, they have to co host the recap show with Schrader there to give them hell. "I think it's time we have an intervention and keep you from going to Martinsville for a little while." Ain't that the truth! I've got that "mad dash out of the track" down pat after these last years. "The only thing funnier than that would be if Denny Hamlin won. Your attendance will be just what Denny needs to get back to his old form and win in just his second race back from injury. I hope you're happy with yourself. :)" In all seriousness, talking about Jeff and his back injury and how it hurt him for 3 solid years, think about what Denny's might do to him. Yes, Jeff still put up respectable numbers over that stretch but that is because of who he is. Much like Dale from '97-'99, he still had the talent and mental tenacity to remain relevant. But you could visually see Jeff wasn't the same over that stretch, like Dale in his injury years. Phoenix 2010 Spring probably emphasized that the most. With victory in sight, watching Jeff creep up on that restart, that was stunning. What characterized Jeff from '95-'07 was the way he was when he could smell victory. He was the ultimate shark. About the only DW gimmick I don't wanna pull my hair out over is when he hums the "Jaws" theme music when Jeff gets close to the front, cause when a win is out there, and Jeff is up front or close to it, he is the shark smelling blood in the water. And he will ATTACK! Unless he is really hurting. That is a big reason I made such a big prediction last year about Jeff winning the 2012 Cup. After watching his three wins in 2011, redeeming himself at Spring Phoenix by roughing up Rowdy himself (damn, Days of Thunder really was a complete foreshadowing). I watched that and said two things. "That is the Jeff Gordon I remember" and "Damn, he's gonna start winning again". Then he won at Pocono by outlasting everyone, seeing the front at the end, and chomping away. And what put it over the top was the ultimate throwback "It Is In The Vicinity Of Labor Day, I Am At A Tire Chewing Southern Track, And I Am Jeff F***ing Gordon, I Win, You Lose" Atlanta win. I knew he was healthy, I knew he was still in his prime racing years, and I knew he was Jeff again. What I failed to take into account was that Jeff is also in his "Paying The Piper" years currently. So where will this leave Denny? I am going to be generous to Denny and say he has about 1/100th of Jeff's mental strength. Unless Denny has a miracle recovery and feel absolutely zero discomfort, these next few years may get ugly for Mr Hamlin. Oh, speaking of "Gordon: 2012 champ: predictions: "Don't forget that Rusty also jinxed Jeff's 2012 season by predicting that he would win the championship." Actually that was me. Sorry. But have I mentioned I am predicting Jimmie Johnson will be the 2013 Cup champ? I am actually willing to guarantee it. "Make sure to take some video of the race/post-race like you did last year." They have had pit road scuffles there the last two years, and tempers in the garage are hotter than Gordon's Darlington '07 engine right now. I predict a 3peat, and I will try to capture it. 885. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.09.2013 - 5:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Well Paul, it's great to see the #43 competitive on a weekly basis, though this week will be a challenge" His biggest challenge to overcome will be the fact I will be there. I am the black hole of feel good stories. Let's have a look and some of the stuff that has happened at races I have been to: -North Wilkesboro April 1990: Even in my first race, a driver gets his first victory with a mid level team by slaying the two giants of the sport at the time, Dale and Darrell. Only it is Brett Bodine, the guy who would design the CoT, and he won because of a scoring error. Also Richard Petty got crashed. -North Wilkesboro October 1990: Rob Moroso gets drunk after the race, tries to drive home, and kills himself and another innocent lady. -North Wilkesboro October 1991: I enjoyed it, but Harry Gant, the very definition of a "likeable" driver, dominates on the way to his modern era record 5th straight win (which would still be standing today) when he cuts a brake line which allows the sport's dominator to win. -North Wilkesboro April 1993: Sterling Marlin, another fan favorite lifer, dominates early and often, but Rusty beats him in the end for one of his 10 wins that year. -North Wilkesboro October 1994: Please don't make me say it. -Charlotte May 1995: Kenny Schrader another fan fave, is well on his way to breaking a long ass winless streak, well past the 500 mile mark, one week from losing half of one of his thumbs, before blowing up. BLab wins his first race, hold this thought. -Charlotte May 1997: The Coca Cola "500". A long rainy night that nobody enjoyed, not even Gordon fans since he was winning so much. -Charlotte May 1998: Do we get a reprieve from having to watch Gordon win every week? Of course not. -Darlington September 1998: With Gordon Overkill at its peak, will Jeff Burton, who dominates, win this and make up for getting beat by Gordon's slower car in last year's Labor Day Classic because Burton let Gordon shove him around like he was Gordon's bitch Gordon took away his line? Nope, Gordon passes late and wins. Again. -Martinsville October 2002: Johnny Benson, another likeable winless lifer at that point, makes a frantic late charge for his first career win. He falls short, gets it at Rockingham a few weeks later. -Martinsville April 2003: Can Bobby Labonte, once the guy who could never win on short tracks, make it two Spring races in a row at the toughest of the short tracks? Stop me if you've heard this before: Gordon passes him late for another trophy to throw on the pile. -Charlotte May 2004: JJ leads 500 of the 600 miles. -Charlotte October 2004: Kasey Kahne dominates the shit out of the event to look like he will finally get his first win after a year of coming oh so close. He blows a tire and JJ wins. -Martinsville October 2004: Tragedy. -Charlotte May 2005: EPIC BRUTALITY! BLab has it won seemingly after a long dry spell, after a LONG FREAKING NIGHT of caution after caution, but his feel good win (10 years after his first) would make that night salvageable. JJ beats him at the line by inches and BLab kicks his car afterwards. -Martinsville October 2006: Jeff Burton is in the driver's seat for the most popular and feel good championship since Alan Kulwicki in 1992. His engine blows early, JJ wins, goes on to win his first of 5 in a row. F***! -Martinsville October 2007: This time Jeff Gordon, although a 4 time champ, hasn't won one since 2001, looks to be on his way to #5 over JJ who we are already sick of. JJ wins this one and the next 3 races (because of the good mojo I for some reason keep bringing to him) beating Gordon for the title. Never dreamed I feel bad for Gordon losing something. -Darlington May 2012: Gordon cuts two tires in two laps leading them to understandably think something is wrong and they need to go to the garage to fix it. Turns out nothing is wrong, his luck just sucks that bad. HMS' golden boy wins their 200th race. -The last two Martinsville races: Boring Domination, the title of JJ's biography. Jimmie Johnson: Boring Domination. 886. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.09.2013 - 5:26 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) List of races I've been too: Get my point :( 887. David posted: 05.09.2013 - 6:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Actually that was me. Sorry. But have I mentioned I am predicting Jimmie Johnson will be the 2013 Cup champ? I am actually willing to guarantee it." You also predicted Jeff to win this year's Daytona 500. How did that work out for you? Seems like the only thing you've gotten right recently is Jeff making the Chase last year. 888. murb posted: 05.09.2013 - 6:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "(am I the only male alive that doesn't find her attractive at all?)" No. I too think she looks like a 13 year old boy with long hair. 889. cjs3872 posted: 05.09.2013 - 7:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) David, DSFF's not the only one on here that predicted Jeff Gordon would win this year's Daytona 500. I also made that prediction, and it was going fine until he had the overheating problem while leading. I still say that was the reason why he didn't pull down in front of Jimmie Johnson late in that race, because the overheating robbed his engine of the horsepower it needed to be able to lead, and I think he knows it, as well. In years past, he would have dropped down in front of Jimmie without a moment's hesitation, but he knew hs car could no longer lead, so he just stayed in line, where his engine's lack of horsepower wouldn't matter in the draft. But that tactic bew up in his face, like just about everything else has the last two years, when he got shuffled out of line, and when that happened, he just tried to nurse the car to the finish. 890. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.09.2013 - 7:19 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) Thank you murb! She has the face of a man, the body of a 10 year old girl, the personality of one of those 50ish menopausal women who was never much fun to begin with, and the stock car ability of that Fukuyama dude who drove for Travis Carter some in 2002. 891. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.09.2013 - 8:41 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I think Danica more closely resembles a potential evolutionary ancestor than a human being. Gorilla Monsoon more closely resembles a woman. 892. Benjamin Lowe posted: 05.09.2013 - 8:45 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) and she crashes more often than Tammy Jo Kirk of the Truck Series used to back in the day. 893. Benjamin Lowe posted: 05.09.2013 - 8:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Here are the races that I have been to Texas Spring Cup Race 2002-2005 Texas Indycar Race June 2003 Texas Truck Series Race October 2004 894. JG24FanForever posted: 05.09.2013 - 9:16 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I have cut off my Stouche today. Jeff Gordon has finished 38th,13th,11th and 11th since I grew it out. Now all we need is for DSFF to stay home so Gordon will have a shot at the win. 895. The Long Shot posted: 05.09.2013 - 9:21 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Hate to say it, but NicoRosbergFan's comment represents me as well. Instead, I'll just list the sporting events that I've attended (this will be a short list). --Twins vs. A's, August 15, 2010: This was the game in which Twins pitcher Kevin Slowey was throwing no-hit ball for 7 innings before manager Ron Gardenhire lifted him due to concerns about his arm. It was only the 4th time in history that a pitcher was removed from the game in the middle of a no-hitter. --Vikings vs. Bills, August 17, 2012: The game itself was rather uneventful (other than LB Audie Cole returning back-to-back interceptions for touchdowns), and the fans let everyone know it, too. In the middle of the third quarter, some morons a few sections to our right started a wave that quickly spread around the stadium. Before long, fans were ripping up programs and throwing them around when the wave came their direction. I barely missed getting struck by one, and my dad was hit on the back by another. The stands were an absolute mess when the game ended. The upside to this day: I actually passed within a few feet of Vikings owner Zygi Wilf while touring the stadium. And by the way, I'm not normally this open politically, but I am extremely happy that the Minnesota gay marriage bill passed in the House today. Is anyone else? 896. 13 posted: 05.09.2013 - 9:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) My top 10 for darlington. Qualifying: 1. Greg Biffle 2. Kasey Kahne 3. Jimmie Johnson 4. Joey Logano 5. Carl Edwards 6. Kyle Busch 7. Matt Kenseth 8. Brad Keselowski 9. Regan Smith 10. Jamie Mcmurray. Race Results : 1. Brad Keselowski 2. Greg Biffle 3. Kyle Busch 4. Jamie Mcmurray 5. Jeff Gordon 6. Jimmie Johnson 7. Joey Logano 8. Denny Hamlin 9. Ryan Newman 10. Martin Truex Jr. Not really sure about the results of this but ill do it each week 897. Paul posted: 05.09.2013 - 9:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I've never been to a NASCAR race and don't often go to sports events, but I got to see the Vikings' final regular season game in 2009 when they crushed the Giants 44-7. I've also seen a number of Minnesota Twins games back when they played in the Metrodome with my dad and sister, gone to many tractor pulls and drag races at local race tracks, and celebrated the 4th of July one year with my uncle and cousins at Algona Raceway in Algona, Iowa. My uncle used to be a huge race fan and would drive down to Talladega with his wife, mom, and kid twice a year for the Busch and Cup races. He told me that he was gonna take me down there one year, but he quit following the sport a few years back because his favorite driver Bobby Labonte was no longer competitive. Plus, he hated Dale Jr., so going down to Talladega twice a year and not having a competitive driver to root for wasn't exactly a desirable circumstance anymore. Iowa Speedway and Road America are about the only tracks currently on the schedule that I would want to see a race from. The Milwaukee Mile was another one of my favorites, but sadly it's been replaced and largely forgotten about. We also have a couple race tracks up in Brainerd, one being a short track that the K&N Pro Series West competes on, and the other being a road course/drag strip. 898. JG24FanForever posted: 05.09.2013 - 10:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Here's a list of other racing events iv'e been to: NHRA Southern Nationals: 1991-93,95-97,01-03,05,07-09,11 NHRA Four-Wide Nationals: 2010-13(I even went back on monday for the finals in 2010 after it had been rained out on Sunday.) NHRA Fall Charlotte event: 2009-11 1993 Busch Series at The Rock(Mark Martin won.) 1994 ARCA race in Atlanta(Dick Trickle led the most laps!) 1996 Charlotte The Winston pole night+IROC race(Dale's Olympic car!) 1996 Fall Charlotte pole night+ARCA race(Terry Labonte's Honey Crunch car!) 60+ races at Greenvile-Pickens Speedway. I saw Jody Ridley win the first All-Pro race I ever saw there in 1993. 899. Paul posted: 05.09.2013 - 10:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "-Charlotte May 2005: EPIC BRUTALITY! BLab has it won seemingly after a long dry spell, after a LONG FREAKING NIGHT of caution after caution, but his feel good win (10 years after his first) would make that night salvageable. JJ beats him at the line by inches and BLab kicks his car afterwards." That was one of the worst races I've ever. Too many crashes, race took forever to finish, and then when one of my favorite drivers is near victory and looks certain to end a 1+ year winless streak, my least favorite driver sneaks up and beats him to the checkered flag by a couple feet. I watched that race in its entirety when it happened, and I haven't gone back to re-watch any part of that race in the eight years since. Complete waste of five hours from my point of view. Actually, that whole day was a massive disappointment as I had to watch my favorite IndyCar driver Dan Wheldon have his Indianapolis 500 win completely overshadowed by the female hack who led a few laps and finish 4th in that race. He goes on to win the championship, yet he's still not the talk of the series in the media. Fast forward eight years and now he's gone and she's still on my television set every week acting like she owns the whole race track while running 26th place. What a trade-off! "She has the face of a man, the body of a 10 year old girl, the personality of one of those 50ish menopausal women who was never much fun to begin with, and the stock car ability of that Fukuyama dude who drove for Travis Carter some in 2002." I can forgive the lack of talent and the unattractive figure, but to have both of those qualities AND the ugly personality and menopausal attitude to boot, all I want is for her to go away and never come back. The sport has its fair share of drivers without much talent in these race cars, but that attitude mixed in with the lack of talent and the fake good looks is too much for me. There's a video on YouTube of this North Carolina mountain man describing his encounter with "Bigfoot." When recollecting the incident to TV cameras, he says the words "Get away from here. Git! Git!" That's how I feel about the GoDaddy girl in NASCAR. "Gorilla Monsoon more closely resembles a woman." Gorilla had a much better body than Danica, as well as a more vibrant personality and was very talented at what he did. I loved his frequent use of hyperbole as an announcer, such as when he would say "This building has literally exploded!" or "This place has gone bananas!" whenever the fans started cheering really loudly. He was the perfect announcer for the WWE in the late '80s/early '90s when they were full of cartoony characters and personalities. "Now all we need is for DSFF to stay home so Gordon will have a shot at the win." You and Schroeder51 need to gather up some of your buddies and stand guard outside Darlington Raceway and turn away anybody wearing Brad Keselowski gear. Or maybe you could try putting a voodoo curse (like what you did to Gordon with your damn "crash stache") on the people of Winston-Salem and cause all medical personnel to be on 24-hour duty on Saturday night. For God's sake, the man knows he is a curse, and is STILL going to the race track anyways. He must be stopped! "I am extremely happy that the Minnesota gay marriage bill passed in the House today. Is anyone else?" Yes I am. I was happy last November when the voters voted against that state constitutional amendment that would outlaw same-sex marriage in Minnesota, and I'm even happier that it's progressed so well in our state congress. The House has passed the bill, and the Senate is expected to do so as well. Always good to add some equality to our country, one state and one bill at a time. 900. Eric posted: 05.09.2013 - 11:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I went to a lot of Milwaukee Mile nationwide and truck series races from 1998 to 2009. I went the first ever Chicagoland Nationwide and cup races. I saw Jimmie's only nationwide win. I remembered Mike Skinner's season ending crash in 2001 with it being Robert Pressley's best ever cup finish. I went to a Cart race at the track in 1994 as a teenager with it being Mario Andretti's final race at the track. I went to Elkart Lake a couple times in the 1990's for CART practice. I never went there on race day. It does to the fact I like to see the entire track. It is a great track. I did go to Sporting events out of Auto Racing. I saw something like 3 or 4 NBA games in the 1990's. I saw 4 to 6 Minor League hockey games starting in 1987. The hockey team had players called up to NFL teams before. I saw 2 to 4 MLB games in the 1990's. I saw 2 Green Bay Packer Games with both being home game. Only one of the 2 games was at Lambeau Field and it was a preseason game. The other one was the first game of the season for the Packers with it being the home opener at Milwaukee County Stadium. Before 1995, the Packers played 2 or 3 games a season in Milwaukee. 901. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.10.2013 - 12:01 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Funny how things work, I was Gordon's good luck charm until '05 ended. Then a damn light switch flipped and I became JJ's super duper good luck charm. I don't think he has ever finished out of the top 10 of any race I've been to he was in. Remember, I wasn't at Spring Martinsville 2012. For as many times as I've had to watch Gordon win, I was also there for his two '93 Wilkesboro races (two of his three career last place finishes including the first one where he caught fir), his '93 throwback race at Fall Martinsville '02, the '04 World 600, his crash out at Fall Charlotte '04 (he finished 2nd, what?) and the '95 World 600 (not only did he have a wheel fall off, it revealed illegal suspension parts). 902. 13 posted: 05.10.2013 - 12:10 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ive been to 7 bristol races since 09: 2009 spring nationwide Kevin Harvick won and Sterling Marlin won the legends race, 2011 Nationwide Fall Kyle Busch won you wouldnt believe how many people were suddenly Logano fans at the end, 2012 spring nationwide Elliott Sadler won my favorite driver led a large chunk was the best part of that race, 2012 fall nationwide Logano won but really the only part that has stuck eith me is that Austin Dillon wrecked my driver and i was ready to torch his motorhome, 2012 fall cup race my cup driver had the retro Rusty Wallace scheme and started up front abd was fast in practice then the race comes the car sucks and then he wrecks and Diva Hamlin wins, 2013 spring nationwide Kyle Busch won i dont like him but thank god he beat Larson, 2013 Spring cup race both my cup guys have good cars and i thought Brad had it until JJ hit the wall then Brad loses the lead and can someone tell me why the caution came out when Johnson hit the wall but not for Hamlin? Anyway Kasey Kahne won every girl in the place were screaming til they passed out hardly any guys around me cheered at all 903. Paul posted: 05.10.2013 - 3:31 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Denny Hamlin plans on running the full race at Darlington this weekend. This is a tough track, no doubt about it, but considering that his PEER at Darlington ranks 1st in the entire series dating back to 2007, I'd say his chances of getting a good finish this weekend are very good. But if I were JGR, I would still have a relief driver on standby just in case Hamlin has any sort of discomfort or maybe even hits the wall and feels some pain in his back. If that were to happen, I would immediately take him out during the next caution period, have him sit out for the All-Star Race, and allow him to rest up and heal some more before the Coca-Cola 600. They've got to test his back out at some point, so why not test it out at a track where he's been better than everyone else for the past five years? Kurt Busch passed his IndyCar rookie test at IMS, but says he wants to wait a while before he competes in an IndyCar race, stating that his stamina in those cars isn't where it needs to be right now. There's talk that Andretti Autosport, for whom Kurt was testing at IMS, may try and put him in the car either later this season or possibly even for next year's Indianapolis 500. I love it when drivers crossover between different racing disciplines, and I'm interested in seeing how well Kurt does in those cars if given the chance to compete in a full race. 904. Benjamin Lowe posted: 05.10.2013 - 6:45 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Danica maybe Brian Bosworth's Long Lost Daughter. 905. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.10.2013 - 7:22 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) People are forgetting (it has been EIGHT years) that Johnson only won that race because NASCAR threw the red flag out because Joe Nemechek spun out (and drove off even) with 10 laps to go so that Johnson would have more laps. 906. cjs3872 posted: 05.10.2013 - 8:28 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) Of course NicoRosbergFan, they stopped the race, as they always did then, to give the competitors and the fans as many green flag laps as possible because they didn't know how long it would take to clean the track up, because it might have taken six or seven laps to clean the track up. Also, where Joe Nemechek crashed was the same place on the track where a piece of the track came up and hit Jeff Gordon's car much earlier in that race, so the track itself might not have been in the best shape, either. It just so hapepned that it gave Jimmie Johnson the time to make the move on the last lap, though I'm not sure that Jimmie wouldn't have passed him sooner if he had to because Jimmie made several attempts before passing him on the final turn of the last lap. But I've always maintained that Bobby Labonte fell out of favor with JGR for allowing Jimmie to pass him like that because he was never competitve the rest of that season. Of course, Jimmie doesn't make that move on Bobby Labonte if Carl Edwards doesn't make the same move on him earlier that season at Atlanta. Jimmie learned from that and used that move not only at that 2005 Coca-Cola 600, but also at Las Vegas the following spring to beat Matt Kenseth. And that's the same move that many thought Jeff Gordon would make last year at Atlanta on Denny Hamlin, but Jeff can't make that move, and never has been able to make that move. 907. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.10.2013 - 8:46 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) It's not logical. Nemechek suffered a flat tire, spun out, and drove off. Anyone who was born with more than 2 brain cells knows that they only needed a 3 or 4 lap yellow and, if worse came to worse, maybe a green white checker. The only reason to do it like that is to give the Lowe's car the win at Lowe's. 908. David posted: 05.10.2013 - 9:19 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Anyway Kasey Kahne won every girl in the place were screaming til they passed out hardly any guys around me cheered at all" That's funny. 909. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.10.2013 - 10:45 am Rate this comment: (3) (0) The red flag was definitely NASCAR's way of helping their buddy Rick out. 910. cjs3872 posted: 05.10.2013 - 11:34 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Actually NicoRosbergFan, the minimum number of laps for a caution would have been four, due to the pitting and free pass rules, but what we don't know is how much liquid Nemechek's car may have left on the track, which obviously would have extended the caution flag if there had been any. NASCAR's policy had always been to stop the race under those circumstances to allow for as many laps under green as possible. So by stopping the race, NASCAR allowed the track clean-up crews all the time they needed without running out the laps until it ended up in the GWC zone. And it took 10-15 minutes to clean up all that, if I remember right. And remember that because of where the crash happened and any possible fluid and debris Nemechek's car would have dropped, NASCAR would more than likely have had to keep the pits cloed for an extra lap or two, which due to the rules would by itself have extended the caution period. Remember that back then, the pits were closed on the first lap of caution, the second lap was for lead lap cars only to pit, unless it was deemed a "quickie caution", which that almost certainly would not have been. Then the third lap would have been open pitting for anyone, and also remember that, unlike today, the free pass car was waved by on the final lap of caution, so if the pits would have to have been closed for an extra couple of laps so the pit entrance could be cleaned up, that by itself would have extended the caution. So the minimum number of laps that can be run under a caution period back then was four, and had they run under caution, it could very well have been a GWC finish due to the amount of clean-up that had to be done, not only in the fourth turn, but also at the pit entrance where Nemechek's car may have put down fluid and debris. And the rules state that every car must have a chance to pit during each caution period. Because of that and the procedure that is used, no fewer than four laps can be run during any cauion period, and they would probably have run about 6-8 on that caution because of probably having to close the pits, which would possibly have led to a GWC finish. 911. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.10.2013 - 12:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Nemechek's car didn't put any fluid though. It doesn't take eyes to see that, and except for Phoenix in 06 (which went to GWC regardless), they have never red flagged a race under those conditions before or since. They knew very well what throwing that red flag would do, and that was f*ck with the results in favor of Rick's snot-nosed brat. 912. cjs3872 posted: 05.10.2013 - 12:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) NicoRosbergFan, how long have you watched NASCAR, because there were quite a number of races stopped under those conditions prior to that, the most noteworthy possibly being the 2002 Daytona 500 and the spring race at Richmond in 1998 (the first time that was done in a Cup race), and those are only two examples. The 2007 Daytona 500 was stopped because they didn't want to run too many laps under caution even though they knew it would be a GWC finish, and I know of other races being stopped because NASCAR wanted to run as many green flag laps as possible prior to the adaption of the GWC rule for the Cup and Busch/Nationwide Series. They even mentioned a certain lap number in the driver's meeting for every race as the latest they would stop that particular race to get a green flag finish. The most recent race that was stopped was last fall's race at Phoenix after the whole Gordon-Bowyer mess. That race was stopped before they had a GWC finish that ended in disaster for numerous drivers. But you are correct in noting that NASCAR has really pulled back on that tactic in recent years and keep the cars running under caution. Frankly, I would rather see the old red flag method than GWC finishes that extend the race past it's scheduled distance, especially if it means more laps under green than are run on a GWC finish. 913. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.10.2013 - 12:56 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Gordon, you're an idiot and I'm gonna kill you. He got a Darlington stripe. His car doesn't look like it is handling well and I have him in my race pool. C'Mon you little twerp, after all those years you tortured me, you can do me a favor and win this one. In better news TIRE FALL OFF AT DARLINGTON!!!!!!!!! Did Knaus say 2 seconds after 20 laps? I hope so. 914. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.10.2013 - 1:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That's a backup car for BoB. She has spent the whole practice running 5 feet off the wall and still manges to lose it and crash. Having fun yet Tony? 915. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.10.2013 - 1:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Quite a long time, cjs, long enough to know that since GWC was introduced NASCAR only red flags races so long as it causes the outcome they want. 916. Richie61NYfan posted: 05.10.2013 - 1:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) BoB got a little loose and couldn't save it. Stormed right off to the hauler.Gonna be another long weekend for her Whineness Princess Patrick!! 917. Paul posted: 05.10.2013 - 1:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Check out Paul Menard at the top of the speeds chart. Eh, I guess it doesn't matter because apparently he's just gonna finish 12th-16th like he supposedly does every week. Both Ganassi cars look pretty fast as well. 918. cjs3872 posted: 05.10.2013 - 1:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Again DSFF, with Gordon already getting into the wall and being slow (he's actually not faring that much better than Danica, who would be expected to struggle), you have to think there's a preparation issue going on with that team. Their cars have just been prepared that well this year. Certainly not nearly up to their teammates. Somehow I get the feeling that Alan Gustafson's job may be on the line if things don't improve, because this is supposed to be is strength, and if he can't get the cars prepared, something is terribly wrong with that team. Their cars may have been slow last year, but at least they handled well. This year, not only are their cars slow, but they're handling poorly, which is always a bad combnation. Except for Texas and late in the race at Martinsville, the #24 team's done virtually nothing this year, and Texas was the only race so far they had a real chance to win. They had the fastest car on that long run late at Martinsville, but they would also have had to make a late pit stop for fuel in the last 10-15 laps (they would have had to go 140 laps, which would probably have been outside of their range on fuel), which would have negated any chance he had to win anyway. If Gordon's strugling this much at one of his best tracks, that doesn't say much for his chances later in the season. 919. Paul posted: 05.10.2013 - 1:31 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Wow, Mike Joy just mentioned how someone on Twitter tweeted a picture of David Ragan with the caption "This man has won more races in the last five years than Dale Jr." Shhhh! How dare he bring up facts that suggest that Dale Jr. hasn't been that good in recent years, even having less wins than a driver for a backmarker team. Expect a fine from NASCAR and FOX within the next few days. 920. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.10.2013 - 1:38 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Mike Joy, shortly after bringing up that completely true and hilarious fact, joked he needed a fire extinguisher cause his twitter blew up. Junior Nation ladies and gentlemen, Junior Nation. 921. David posted: 05.10.2013 - 1:46 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) That is why Mike Joy is still the best of FOX. I don't care what anyone says. 922. Schroeder51 posted: 05.10.2013 - 1:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wow, BoB is already in a backup car. Honestly, I'm just fully expecting Gordon to have an absolutely miserable race and finish 30th... 923. David posted: 05.10.2013 - 2:00 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "I'm just fully expecting Gordon to have an absolutely miserable race and finish 30th..." Why are you always so pessimistic? 924. David posted: 05.10.2013 - 2:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I hate to kill the fun, but since May 10, 2008 (five years ago), Dale Jr. has won just as many races as Ragan has. 925. Schroeder51 posted: 05.10.2013 - 2:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #923 I am a perpetual real-life pessimist. On the plus side he'll finish ahead of BoB because she'll probably slam the wall again in the race... 926. cjs3872 posted: 05.10.2013 - 2:07 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) David, saying that Mike Joy's the best of those on FOX's coverage of NASCAR is like saying Dale Earnhardt was the best driver Richard Childress had. It's not saying much at all. In fact, Mike Joy may be the only credable guy left on the FOX announce team since Dick Berggren left. The others, especially Laryy McReynolds and the Waltrip brothers, are trying to promote themselves more than the sport. They have no journalistic integrity, except for Joy and occasionally Jeff Hammond. If you were to put someone of Joy's caliber as the play-by-play guy on the TNT broadcasts, they would immediately be almost universally considered best, and to some people, they already are the best team on the circuit, even carrying the weight of Adam Alexander, who couldn't call a race well to save his life. 927. David posted: 05.10.2013 - 2:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Except for Texas and late in the race at Martinsville, the #24 team's done virtually nothing this year, and Texas was the only race so far they had a real chance to win." Outside of the "Refuse to Lose" performance at Talladega, of course. And of course Texas was the only shot they had to win, and it ends in a DNF. This bad luck is just sickening. At least Jeff still has a 1.800 PEER. 928. David posted: 05.10.2013 - 2:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "David, saying that Mike Joy's the best of those on FOX's coverage of NASCAR is like saying Dale Earnhardt was the best driver Richard Childress had. It's not saying much at all. In fact, Mike Joy may be the only credable guy left on the FOX announce team since Dick Berggren left." I really meant to say something like "Mike Joy is still a good commentator". Oh well. 929. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.10.2013 - 2:39 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) Ok, over the last 4 years and 10 and 1/2 months Ragan has more wins than June. Sorry to make it sound like June has had trouble winning over the last good number of years. 930. David posted: 05.10.2013 - 2:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I wasn't siding with Junior, I was just pointing out that the original statement was factually wrong. I thought it was hilarious, anyway. Even the mere fact that Ragan has as many wins as Junior over five years is funny. 931. Sean posted: 05.10.2013 - 3:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Maybe Joy was ignoring Michigan '08 'cause Junior was passing the pace car to save fuel on the final caution... 932. Cornys posted: 05.10.2013 - 4:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Since 2008 implies that the time period begins on Janury 1, 2009. 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013 (5 years) 933. Paul posted: 05.10.2013 - 4:27 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) Yeah sorry to make it seem like David Ragan has outperformed Dale Jr. over the past five years. I wasn't aware the Fact-checker Nazi was on duty. Jeff Gordon went from tagging the wall in first practice to being the fastest car in second practice. He practices the way he races: Terrible at first, then makes a comeback later. Ty Dillon just about hit the pit wall while coming down pit road after his qualifying lap. I think his brother did hit the pit wall at Bristol a year or two ago. Oh those Dillon boys... "I just quit whining about the car and manned up behind the wheel," - Alex Bowman on why his qualifying lap was as fast as it was. I wish more young drivers had that sort or attitude, rather than just bitching about how much the car sucks while running in the top five. Schroeder51, rather than being pessimistic about Gordon, why don't you make yourself useful and prevent DSFF and his voodoo curse from entering Darlington Raceway tomorrow night. No DSFF = No 30th place finish for Jeff Gordon. 934. cjs3872 posted: 05.10.2013 - 4:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That's not necessarily true, Paul. Gordon could run great all night, have something break on his car or crash, and end up worse than 30th. In fact, both Frank Mundy in 1951 and Junior Johnson in 1965 won the pole for this race, and finished last. Mundy finished last in the biggest field in series history, 82 cars, despite winning the pole position (oil pressure problems after just 12 laps), and Junior Johnson went out on the very first lap after winning the pole in 1965 with ignition failure. In fact, if Gordon, or anyone else for that matter, have what happened on the next-to-last lap in 1980 happen to them on the next-to-last lap, they could finish worse than 25th-30th due to all the extra laps that would be run prior to the GWC. Odds are that Gordon won't run 30th all race long, but if something happens on as late as the next-to-last lap that may cause a GWC finish, he could still finish there. 935. Paul posted: 05.10.2013 - 4:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) What are you talking about, cjs? I never said that Gordon wouldn't have a problem in the race tomorrow night. All I said was that his results in the two practice sessions today were reminiscent of how his performances in most of the races this season have gone, which are that he is bad in the first part, but improves in the second part of the race/session. 936. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.10.2013 - 5:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) You know, I considered going down there and watch tonight's race also, and I just got reminded why I decided no pretty quickly. JGR 1-2-3-4. Ugh. Just hope Regan Smith and Alex "The Real Deal" Bowman get Top 6 or 7 finishes. 937. David posted: 05.10.2013 - 5:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Wow. I am SO SORRY for pointing out a mistake in someone else's statement. I guess I'm just one of those crazy people who thinks that five years is 1826 days (or 1827, depending on where the leap years fall). I think this whole argument is ridiculous. Sheesh. "I wasn't aware the Fact-checker Nazi was on duty." The oxymoron-ness of this statement is hilarious, considering that Nazis were some of the biggest liars in history. 938. The Long Shot posted: 05.10.2013 - 5:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm sorry, but the fact that Danica can barely beat out Timmy Hill in qualifying makes me laugh to no end. 939. Schroeder51 posted: 05.10.2013 - 5:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And once again FOX/Speed says it's not Cancerica's fault. It's just the fact that she has another really bad car. 940. DaleSrFanForever posted: 05.10.2013 - 6:09 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Dear Lord, that look that was put on JJ's face by Kurt Busch was freaking priceless. I have never been a fan of Kurt's (sorry Paul and Kenny) but that gave me a warm feeling towards him. 941. The Long Shot posted: 05.10.2013 - 6:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) AND...we have our pole-sitter. Congrats to Barney Vissar and the Furniture Row team on that one. First pole for them since the 2008 Aaron's 499 with Joe Nemechek, I think. 942. Richie61NYfan posted: 05.10.2013 - 7:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yes Schroeder,It's always the cars fault. I think it's time she talked to Tony about the bad cars. Fire the whole pit crew etc and start over. Let the cancer spread to others. Her fans sure are very,very quiet. Bummer!! 943. Anonymous posted: 05.14.2013 - 5:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) glad to see no start and parking in a race thats other than the daytona 500 944. Anonymous posted: 05.14.2013 - 5:01 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) thats why you see a FORMER START AND PARK TEAM finish 1 2 945. The Long Shot posted: 06.26.2013 - 7:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Withdrew: 19-Mike Bliss 946. Birddog posted: 07.02.2013 - 9:22 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) This was incredible race. Held my breath pullin for the underdogs that last lap. Can't believe Ragan got it done 947. Newt posted: 10.21.2013 - 11:12 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) The 98's sponsor should say Bobby Bones, not Bobby Jones. 948. Anonymous posted: 12.28.2013 - 6:54 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Darrell Waltrip is the reason they made the mute button. 949. TTF24 posted: 06.16.2014 - 12:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Uh-Oh There we go Kurt Busch flips over Clint Bower Bobby Terry David and Jeff Gordon down to the grass Ryan Newman had some cars on top of him yep the 2009 race I think you're right and this gets ugly. 950. Windows Millennium Edition posted: 09.03.2016 - 7:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsor updates: #34 FarmRich #99 Lenox Industrial Tools/Fastenal #14 Bass Pro Shops/Tracker Boats #15 Peak Motor Oil #43 Gwaltney Bacon #78 Military Appreciation Day/Furniture Row/Beautyrest #24 Imron Elite Real Truck Paint #42 Clorox 100 Year Anniversary #20 Husky Tools/Home Depot #81 Wrigley Doublemint 951. RaceFanX posted: 12.22.2016 - 10:43 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) The Front Row Motorsports team restored David Ragan's race-winning #34 from this race and give the car to team owner Bob Jenkins as a Christmas gift in 2016. 952. Mr.Victory posted: 03.07.2018 - 2:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Cars involved lap 183 wreck: 9, 15, 1, 24, 78, 47, 32, 39, 55, 56, 17, 78, 39, 10, 56. 953. TheDewCrew posted: 02.22.2020 - 4:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) There are just certain weekends that I look back on fondly. This is one of them. The crazy Nationwide race with it's memorable finish. Then the next day was my brother's birthday, and I had to leave for his party, with the race still going on. By some chance, right as we left the rain hit, and we got back as they went back to racing, that all culminated into the crazy big one, and fantastic final lap. Two great races, with drama, wrecks, and last lap passes, all in an already great weekend. I wish I could relive that weekend 954. SweetRich posted: 02.22.2020 - 5:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The Commentators For The Race Were Mike Joy, Larry McReynolds And Darrell Waltrip. The Pit Road Reporters Were Steve Byrnes, Matt Yocum And Krista Voda. 955. Rich posted: 12.19.2020 - 10:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Joining the race coverage were Jeff Hammond as the roving reporter and Chris Myers in the Hollywood hotel. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Post a comment:* Your comment may not appear immediately - all comments must be approved by the moderator. Name: Comment: