|| *Comments on the 2014 Toyota Owners 400:* View the most recent comment <#443> | Post a comment <#post> 1. Sector posted: 04.25.2014 - 4:52 pm Rate this comment: (2) (6) Take a photograph, It'll be the last, Not a dollar or a crowd could ever keep me here, I don't have a past I just have a chance, Not a family or honest plea remains to say, Rain, rain go away, Come again another day, All the world is waiting for the sun. Is it you I want or just the notion Of a heart to wrap around so I can find my way around? Safe to say from here, You're getting closer now, We are never sad 'cause we are not allowed to be Rain, rain go away, Come again on Monday, All the world is waiting for the sun. Rain, rain go away, Come again another day, All the world is waiting for the sun. To lie here under you, Is all that I could ever do, To lie here under you is all, To lie here under you is all that i could ever do, To lie here under you is all, Rain, rain go away, Come again on Monday, All the world is waiting for the sun. Rain, rain go away, Come again another day, All the world is waiting for the sun, All the world is waiting for the sun, All the world is waiting for the sun. 2. Schroeder51 posted: 04.25.2014 - 4:54 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Wow, thanks to qualifying being rained out, Ryan Truex is starting in the top 10. Not sure how well that's going to turn out... 3. The Long Shot posted: 04.25.2014 - 4:58 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Kyle Larson wins his first career pole in a rain-out. Hopefully he can back that up with a solid performance or even a win tomorrow night. 4. Harvickfan4Life posted: 04.25.2014 - 5:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If Larson wins this race he will become the youngest race winner in Richmond history beating Richard Petty when he won at 23 years, 9 months, 21 days, in 1961 5. Kyle Larson hater posted: 04.25.2014 - 5:03 pm Rate this comment: (4) (12) Cant help but to hope that Kyle Larson wrecks in turn 1 lap 1, tired of these commentators beating it to him 6. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 04.25.2014 - 5:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Wow, thanks to qualifying being rained out, Ryan Truex is starting in the top 10. Not sure how well that's going to turn out..." In the short term, it means that the 27 and 48 will probably take the pit boxes on either side of him. Does Larson qualify for the Shootout next year since they based the starting order on practice speed rather than owner pts. or does it only count for full qualifying sessions? 7. c2 posted: 04.25.2014 - 5:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I had to look twice on sites to see if they messed up which Truex starts in the top ten. I was mistaken...hopefully Ryan can turn that lucky break into a top 25 or something, he needs it. Reutimann makes the race! 8. 18fan posted: 04.25.2014 - 5:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) No, starting on pole due to a rainout does not put you in the Sprint Unlimited. We will see if Larson can lead his first lap of the season starting on the pole. He is the highest ranked driver in points who has not led a lap this season. Hopefully there is not a wreck early with faster cars trying to pass the 83 car. 9. Schroeder51 posted: 04.25.2014 - 5:14 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) "Cant help but to hope that Kyle Larson wrecks in turn 1 lap 1, tired of these commentators beating it to him" What a class act you are. 10. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 04.25.2014 - 5:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Thanks 18fan. I thought that NASCAR may have changed the guidelines slightly when they started using practice speeds if available for starting position. 11. Schroeder51 posted: 04.25.2014 - 5:24 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Also, I really hope that we'll see Parker Kligerman back in Cup again someday. He has had absolutely horrendous luck this season and now is out of a ride thanks to Swan Racing shutting down. I hope he can find a ride somewhere and make it back to the Cup Series again someday; I think he's got the talent to be successful and I would hate for Darlington to be the last time we ever see him in Cup. I can only wonder how BK Racing is going to handle having THREE cars now, though...Either that team has more money than we ever thought, or they are posssibly going to suffer the same fate as Swan Racing... 12. Debris posted: 04.25.2014 - 5:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Is this the best starting position ever for BK Racing on a non-restrictor plate race? 13. MarkMartinFan posted: 04.25.2014 - 5:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) From what I read, Cole Whitt's car is basically being run by the guys left from Swan Racing just under the BK Racing banner. 14. murb posted: 04.25.2014 - 5:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Should be an interesting race with the qualifying rainout. 15. Nascar Lead Lap Points posted: 04.25.2014 - 6:09 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Just a note I been helped the webmaster with the withdrew from the cup,nationwide, and truck series the last two days From the 2004 Subway 400 to the 2014 Blue Jeans Go Green 200 16. 02Justin10 posted: 04.25.2014 - 6:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm thrilled Kyle Larson gets to start from pole! I hope this kid goes out and wins tomorrow night!!! And he's already got Dillon beat by 26 positions. ;) Maybe Larson will lap Dillon in the first 50 laps or so. 17. numbah10hatah posted: 04.25.2014 - 6:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Geesh, and I thought I hated Larson.... 18. numbah10hatah posted: 04.25.2014 - 6:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #12: Technically, yes. Landon Cassill started 9th in the #83 at Michigan in August of 2012. 19. joey2448 posted: 04.25.2014 - 7:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hey cjs, what are the chances that there's a big wreck in the opening laps tomorrow night because of the 83 car starting in the top-10? Now that the Gibbs cars have curtailed their dominance at this track, it seems pretty wide open. I mean, I have no idea who to pick to win this race. Literally anyone up front there could win (except perhaps the 83, lol). 20. cjs3872 posted: 04.25.2014 - 7:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well joey2448, others on this board have already brought up that possibility (regarding something happening with the #83 car starting so close to the front), but I think the chances of that happening are less at Richmond for a couple of reasons. First, it's not an important race (though it might be for Ryan Truex), and I think the chances of that happening are higher in a bigger race than a lesser race. The second reason I don't think there's that big of a chance of that happening is that there's plenty of room to race at Richmond, so the other drivers don't have to be too impatient trying to get around him, especially since there's going to be an early competition caution so the teams have a chance to change tires, which is especially important this weekend, since Goodyear's brought a tire they've never run before. They can just use the caution and the pit stops to get ahead of Truex if they can't before the competition caution. There was a greater chance of something happening last week at Darlington for both reasons, it was a bigger race and the racing groove is much narrower there than it is at Richmond. But I expect the drivers starting further back with better teams to be a little more conservative than the drivers starting closer to the front than usual, because they'll just use their pit crews to get ahead of the smaller teams, especially on that first pit stop on the competition caution. 21. Debris posted: 04.25.2014 - 8:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) All I know is that Ryan Truex qualified 18th in his first ever race at Bristol. He hit the wall on the 2nd lap and was like 40th by lap 5... 22. Harvickfan4Life posted: 04.25.2014 - 8:14 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) 11. BK Racing should roll out the 93 for Kligerman to use 23. luigistarted06 posted: 04.25.2014 - 8:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm going to go against the grain and say Ryan Truex has a respectable top 25 run tomorrow 24. 1995 Subaru WRX STi posted: 04.25.2014 - 8:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Brad Keselowski has opend his mouth again, here is what flew out. "My dream NASCAR scheduale: Daytona (2 weeks after the Super Bowl) ACS PIR Sonoma (^West coast swing) Homestead Darlington Martinsville Bristol Texas (^East coast swing but Texas before Easter Break) (Easter Break) Talladega Richmond Charelotte (Break week 1) MIS/Pokeynose Dover/Loudon Iowa/Kansas (Note those tracks together equal "double headweekends and Wennesday night races in prime time but also include Sunday night races) (Break week 2) Daytona Brickyard (Both races get there own weeks) Kensucky/Atlanta Pokeynose/MIS Bristol/Road Atlanta Richmond Talladega (Double headers comeback and yes Talladega would the last race before the Chase) (Break week 3) Chase starts NHIS/The Glen Chicagoland Kansas/Martinsville CMS Dover/Texas PIR All-Star Race (winner gets the pole for the season finale) Las Vegas (Season finale) Season is over before Mid-October." 1. No too double headers, except i could understand for the Chase if it's done properly 2. No mid-week races. What if it rains? 3. Brads season: 38 races. Current season: 36 races. Brad less is more. NASCAR can do this with LESS races. NASCAR needs less races NOT more. 4. I"m OK with Iowa and Road Atlanta being on the scheduale. 5. Short season is good and NASCAR would get the "off-season" it really deserves. 6. Vegas being the season finale makes sense because the Banquet is held in Vegas. 7. Haivng the All-Star race being before the season finale also makes sense. It'd be better if it was AFTER the season. 8. Having west coast/east coast race together makes travel easier. Overall Brads ideas aren't impossible too make happen but the double header idea i'm completely against unless its done in the Chase. 25. Daniel posted: 04.25.2014 - 9:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Go Gordon! 26. 23andJoe posted: 04.25.2014 - 9:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I remember back in the late 90s they floated the "Wednesday night races" idea a bit as they acknowledged that 36 weekends was the most they could practically run. I think Bruton and Humpy were the ones championing it... 27. Sector posted: 04.25.2014 - 11:15 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Aw someone disliked my lyrics. I thought it was suitable because of rain. Oh well. 28. murb posted: 04.25.2014 - 11:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "1. No too double headers, except i could understand for the Chase if it's done properly" Double headers as in what the IndyCar Series does at some of their races? I REALLY want to see that. One idea that I proposed on my mock schedule a while ago (I actually think it was on the Fall Richmond page last year) was a Saturday night/Sunday afternoon double header for Cup at Iowa. Twin 300 milers. I think that would be really cool. I do like your idea of having it in the Chase though. As for the amount of races, I don't really think the actual amount matters as much as race track variety does. I'm personally fine with 36 races, but in those 36, I want to see a lot of diversification. I think there needs to be at least four road courses (all different ones), quite a few less cookie cutters (we don't need multiple races at places like Kansas and Texas), and WAY less night races (my only night races would be the Bristol night race, one of the Richmonds, the 600, the Firecracker, and one of my hypothetical Iowa Twin races). Maybe I'll try posting an updated version of my "dream schedule" at some point soon. I'm sure I can come up with something a little better than the previous one I posted last year. 29. Sector posted: 04.25.2014 - 11:32 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Why less night races? Night races are far more enjoyable than day races. At least the cars are more beautiful under the lights too. 30. jabber1990 posted: 04.25.2014 - 11:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I have always wanted to see a NASCAR/F1 double-header weekend, I have no idea if its possible but it would be good for both series. or even an F1/Truck or Nationwide double-header. but it won't work because when you think NASCAR you think Jeff Gordon, Tony Stewart, ,Jimmie Johnson, not Kyle Busch/Ryan Blaney/Tanner Berryhill, or even Kyle Busch/Ron Hornaday Jr./ Timothy Peters how about a Cup and Truck double-header with NHRA at Sonoma? 31. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 12:01 am Rate this comment: (4) (1) "Why less night races?" Because night races used to be a special occasion back in the day. They were way more fun, and they had a certain vibe. But now, having so many of them ruins the prestige and everything about what makes them fun. It's hard to get excited about or appreciate how pretty the cars look under the lights when it seems like night races are happening every other week. And also, I personally disagree about night races being more enjoyable. In a day race, I think it's more compelling and interesting because you really don't know what you're going to get with the track conditions. The track can get hot and slick, and you can watch the drivers do what they do best and try to hang on to their race car. And then, before you know it, the track can completely change and a bunch of other new guys can hit on a setup and run for the win. In a day race, the track is usually constantly changing, and I think it brings a whole new element into the race. But with night races, everyone knows from the get-go what they are dealing with in that regard. There are no track changes, and whoever has the fastest car is probably gonna be the guy to beat. Everything is pretty anticlimactic unless you are at a short track like Bristol or Richmond. It's not that I don't like night races, because I really do. And I do think it's necessary for all the race tracks to have lights for weather purposes. I just want to see night races have a special meaning again instead of just being ordinary races, because that's what they've turned into. 32. TS1420 posted: 04.26.2014 - 12:06 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) An idea I had for a double header would be to return Darlington back to Labor Day Weekend, run a "Late Summer Classic 400" mile race on Saturday night and run the grandaddy "Southern 500" in the grueling heat/humidity of Sunday afternoon. 33. Sector posted: 04.26.2014 - 12:46 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Understandable @ murb. I really favor the track Darlington(I love it under the lights best) & the Bristol night race is pure legendary. Tracks such as Texas & Chicago aren't really necessary, so I do agree with what you're saying now. 34. cjs3872 posted: 04.26.2014 - 1:11 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Let's just hope the Cup race is better than the NNS race was, because not only did you have one dominant car in the NNS race, but NASCAR committed an absolutely inexcusable scoring snafu in the NNS regarding the car of Trevor Bayne. What happened was that after Bayne's green flag pit stop, Kevin Harvick lapped him and then lapped another car (Brendan Gaughan), which when the caution came out on lap 152, made Gaughan the free pass car and Bayne the second car one lap down. But not only did Bayne pit with the leaders, which is an infraction for a lapped car, but NASCAR actually placed Bayne with the leaders for the ensuing restart, AND on the same lap, an error that ESPN never mentioned, and NASCAR didn't correct at the end of that, or the next caution, so NASCAR was actually scoring Bayne one lap ahead of where he really was, and never corrected the error, which placed Bayne 11th, instead of 19th, which was where he really finished. So NASCAR's scoring error ended up moving Bayne up eight positions in the finishing order ahead of where he should have been listed as finishing. And with the scoring transponders and the technology used today, is absolutely unforgiveable. Thank heavens that Bayne didn't wind up in contention, or NASCAR might have had a real mess on their hands. Certainly, the Cup race can't possibly be any worse than the NNS race was, not just because of the lack of competition, but also because of the continuing ineptitude of the officiating, which has gotten so bad that they can't even score a race properly, as was the case in the NNS race. 35. 1995z71 posted: 04.26.2014 - 2:08 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Damn it Dave Blaney! 36. jabber1990 posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:18 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) in NASCAR's defense, they just had 3 hours of rain, so maybe his transponder got wet 37. SpeedWorld97 posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:19 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I have always wanted to see a NASCAR/F1 double-header weekend, I have no idea if its possible but it would be good for both series." As much as we would like the idea, Bernie Ecclestone would never let that happen. I think the only racing he would want to race with F1 on a weekend would be the different feeder series of F1. I still think it would be cool though for NASCAR to ditch Texas Motor Speedway in November and go to Circuit of the Americas instead, but it will probably never happen. 38. Canadianfan posted: 04.26.2014 - 12:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hi guys re-watched the race this morning Bayne took the wave around at the debris caution. He was 18th one lap down at that point according to the ticker although he was catching Harvick and it is possible he was right behind the 62 when the caution came out it was during commercial. If you watch closely when they comeback from commercial you see 7 or 8 cars go by single file Bayne near the back was one of those cars to take the wave around. However some cars one lap down didn't take the wave-around including the 43 who was just ahead of Bayne but Bayne probable got by before the caution he was flying and had better tires than anybody. I will check again but I think that is where the confusion is. 39. Anonymous posted: 04.26.2014 - 1:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Does the forecast look good tonight? I wanna know ahead of time if we'll need to talk about our favorite TV shows and/or PBS come tonight. 40. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 04.26.2014 - 1:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Does the forecast look good tonight? According to the Nat'l Weather Service, the forecast is 80 and sunny today and cloudy in the low 50's tonight. @murb(post 31), at least in the summertime, the wednesday night races would have some change in the track temp since the sky doesn't get dark until 9pm local time in most places. I'm not a fan of having every race being a night race, but there would be some change in track temp. similar to the Coke 600. 41. Canadianfan posted: 04.26.2014 - 1:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hi Guys I am some what going back on what I said Bayne was flying and at lap 138 the last time we see him he is in front of the 2 and there are no cars between him and the 5 they even zoom in on the 5 which is less than half a straightaway ahead of the 6 and in front of the 5 is the 43. I think the 43 slowed up the 5 just enough that the 6 used it as a pick on got past on was on the tail end of the lead lap not one lap down and don't forget the 6 had the best tires at that point and flew past 2 like he was on 7 cylinders. That is why Bayne was shown catching up to the field before pit stops no controversy here Bayne had plenty of time to pass the 5 and was not far back. The only problem is the last time they show the ticker before they went to commercial they stopped at the 31 which was 15th if they kept going we would have seen the 6 as the last car on the lead lap. Anonymous no rain problems tonight. 42. cjs3872 posted: 04.26.2014 - 1:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That's impossible Canadianfan, because he made a pit stop on that caution and pitted with the leaders, which is an infraction because he was one lap down. He would not have been eligible to take a wave-around because he had pitted during that caution, and if he had stayed out and taken the wave-around, he would have had to take the restart at the back of the field, but he lined up with the leaders on the restart in 11th place. So it obviously a scoring error. And I don't think he was gaining on Harvick before that caution anyway. He had unlapped himself from Brian Scott, who was running second because he was on much fresher tires than Scott was on, but he and Harvick had similar tires, since they had pitted about three laps apart and Harvick had a much better car. Now he likely would have caught Brendan Gaughan within a few more laps because his car was slightly better than Gaughan's was, but Bayne was the second car one lap down, but pitted with the leaders. When I saw that whole thing transpire live on ESPN2, I was shocked because I knew he was a lap down. In fact, I believe the reason that caution was extended (10 laps were run during that caution) was because even NASCAR was unsure where Bayne was, and even with the extension of the caution, they got it wrong because they had him scored on the lead lap, when he was actually one lap down, so he was, at that time, given credit for one lap too many. Now had NASCAR scored the race properly, Bayne would have gotten the free pass on one of the two subsequent caution periods, but I don't think he would have gotten to 11th, where he was credited with finishing. 43. Canadianfan posted: 04.26.2014 - 3:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) cjs3872 I just noticed this but at lap 146 as they are going to commercial the 5 car passes in front of the scoring pylon it shows the 6 in 17th the 43 in 18th and the 19 in 19th at the same time the ticker shows the 01 in 13th the 99 in 14th and the 31 in 15th. By that we can deduce that the 62 was in 16th at lap 145 for him. 44. cjs3872 posted: 04.26.2014 - 4:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And both the #62 and #6 were a lap down at this point, Canadianfan, with the #6 gaining on the #62 due to having fresher tires. But the only way I could see Bayne being able to get his lap back before that caution, as far behind the leader as he was on the track at lap 140 (over 2 seconds), would have been if Harvick really backed off to save his tires, slowing down at about 3-4 tenths a lap, in case the race went green the rest of the way, so he had the option of a right side tire only change on his last stop, since he would have been stopping within 25 laps of the end, based on the pit sequencing. Remember that Harvick stopped under caution on lap 44 and didn't stop again until lap 133, so by that, it figured that his final stop wouldn't have been until lap 220-225, possibly as late as lap 230, which means he could have made a right side only change with that few laps remaining, had it stayed green, and he might have even been able to make that stop without taking on any fuel, since he may have had enough fuel to go the rest of the distance. 45. Canadianfan posted: 04.26.2014 - 5:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) cjs I agree that is a good possibility I actually tweeted Bayne to see if he could shed some light on this I don't expect a reply but you never know. Bayne got past the 62 and the 5 based on the 62's split times he was falling like a rock different strategy also traffic could have played a role there were at least 4 cars ahead of the 5 around lap 139. 46. cjs3872 posted: 04.26.2014 - 6:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well, I think we've established that Gaughan was one of those drivers that pitted earlier, much like Ryan Blaney, Brian Scott, and Cale Conley, who was running seventh at that time, and that Gaughan was dropping back faster than the others were and eventually got the free pass. But watching the race live, I could see that when Bayne unlapped himself from Scott, he was more than 2 seconds behind Harvick on the track, and that's where the rub comes in for me. As far behind Harvick as he was, as equal as their tires were, and as dominant as Harvick's car was, the only way Bayne could ever have made up that much distance in such a short amount of time (8-10 laps) was for Harvick to have been running ultra-conservatively to save his right side tires and run a much slower pace than he could have been running at that time, which may also answer for why he took longer to get around lapped cars than he usually would, because he's not the kind to wait if he's being held up. The fact that he had such a big lead over those that were on the same pitting sequence that he was on tells me that he was just riding during that segment of the race, which is a smart move in his position. 47. jabber1990 posted: 04.26.2014 - 6:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (3) "...on the final line of the national anthem 'and the home of the brave' I always look at an American flag, i've done it since I was in go-Carts as a kid"-Danica Patrick here's a great suggestion...STOP DOING THAT! its obviously not worked for the past 25 years 48. numbah10hatah posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:08 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Watch a Ford or a Chevy win tonight's race... 49. Anonymous posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I wonder if this race will be as eventful as the past few races here. 50. numbah10hatah posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm already tired of them talking about Larson. And I just tuned in 15 minutes ago. 51. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:17 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) That guy who was praying that Larson would wreck on lap 1 must be jumping for joy right now... 52. numbah10hatah posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:17 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Huh, commenter #5 got his wish. 53. TS1420 posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) WOW! 54. DB1995 posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:18 pm Rate this comment: (1) (2) HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!, the 42 cut down on the 15. 55. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) So much for Clint staying under the radar tonight. 56. AveryNH posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:18 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Stupid move by Bowyer. Guess his arm's still itchy 57. NadeauFan91 posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:18 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I'm not gonna lie, I laughed at the thought of Commenter #5 jumping for joy after what just happened. 58. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:19 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Larson cut down a little too hastily, but at the same time Bowyer could have given him a break on lap one, turn one. 59. jabber1990 posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Saw that coming how did Kesolowski stay out of that? 60. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:19 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) I'm in disbelief that that guy's wish actually came true! 61. RaceFanX posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Contact between Kyle Larson and Clint Bowyer ends with the polesitter spinning. Larson doesn't appear to have too much damage, hopefully he can get back into it. It's been a while since I've seen a crash on the opening lap of a Cup race. When was the last time we have one? 62. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:20 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) Changed my mind. Bowyer just drove it way wide into turn one. What a surprise that he does something idiotic at Richmond. 63. numbah10hatah posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It kind of figures that Bowyer got into him, doesn't it? 64. joey2448 posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:21 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) Poster #5 looks like freakin' Nostradamus right now! 65. cjs3872 posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:21 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Shades of Martinsville a couple of years ago when Clint Bowyer made what I called a idiotic move that was never going to work, and he ended up taking out both Jeff Gordon and Jimmie Johnson, along with himself. Well, I think this one topped it, because that move was pure idiocy. I can't remember anyone, much less an experienced driver such as Bowyer making such a stupid move on the START of the race. If you think you've got a god car, why not wait a few laps to make your move instead of making a banzai move in turn one of the first lap. 66. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Fortunately Larson doesn't seem to have any damage, so hopefully it won't affect his overall race. 67. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:22 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Brett Bodine and RG3 swapped places pretty quickly. 68. numbah10hatah posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:23 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) RaceFanX: Kansas in October, wasn't it? When Danican't wrecked on lap 1? 69. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ryan Truex just looks lost out there. 70. RaceFanX posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ryan Truex dropping back, that's sad. Hopefully they can get that car running better later. He could use a good finish. 71. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sure enough, Ryan Truex is fading back through the field. 72. DB1995 posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:25 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) 1/4 funding does that to you. 73. numbah10hatah posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) As expected, Truex is sinking like a stone. 74. Jarrett88fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The Ripple Effect at Richmond continues. 75. RaceFanX posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That's right, Danica Patrick had that lap 1 issue at Kansas. Credit to NASCAR and its drivers, despite all the banging in stock car racing there is rarely a first lap crash (unlike say F1 where the first lap is always the wildest). 76. numbah10hatah posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:30 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Bloomin' Onions, anyone? Here comes Kevin Harvick. 77. cjs3872 posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well, I think in the case of Ryan Truex, he just wants to get to the finish of a race and get some experience under his belt, and where he's running doesn't matter. If it's 15th or 35th, it doesn't matter to him as long as he's running at the finish and doesn't have any major problems along the way. Remember that he's missed two races this year, so all he wants is seat time. 78. numbah10hatah posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) RaceFanX: I wouldn't call it an "issue". More like an idiotic move. 79. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick goes to the lead. 80. NicoRosbergFan posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Well, Clint Bowyer pulled his annual, "Look at me; I'm a dumbass," stunt of the year. 81. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:33 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Stenhouse is in 34th getting out run by David Stremme. Pathetic. 82. TS1420 posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:34 pm Rate this comment: (1) (2) "It kind of figures that Bowyer got into him, doesn't it?" Bowyer dive-bombing a former dirt track open wheel phenom at a short track while a Penske car & Stewart-Haas car slip on by? Where have we seen that before? Since #5's wish came true, hopefully mine comes true too: I wish Jimmie Johnson gets caught with an oversized engine, tainted fuel & traction control after the race and is put on a lifetime ban ;) 83. numbah10hatah posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick almost collides with Joshua Wise. 84. TS1420 posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Of course Harvick gets hit by a lapped car while leading.... Freaky Fast. Freakin' Cursed. 85. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Competition caution comes out just in time for Danica to get the free pass. 86. RaceFanX posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:36 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) I wish for for a safe, fun, and competitive season. 87. NicoRosbergFan posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well Danican't is a lap down... behind Landon Cassill, Reed Sorenson, J.J. Yeley, David Ragan, and a whole mess of other cars with less than a tenth of the budget she's got. 88. NicoRosbergFan posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bold prediction: Danica will finish exactly 3 laps down tonight, barring catastrophe. 89. numbah10hatah posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Our regularly scheduled competition caution. 90. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Since #5's wish came true, hopefully mine comes true too: I wish Jimmie Johnson gets caught with an oversized engine, tainted fuel & traction control after the race and is put on a lifetime ban ;) Don't forget tires with bleeders that keep the air pressure constant and direct telemetry going to a war room at HMS. 91. Anonymous posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Harvick leads and his teammate gets the free pass. Those are called team orders, the same thing MWR got penalized for last year. Could this be a trend of things to come? 92. numbah10hatah posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think Travis Kvapil stayed out to lead a lap, unless NASCAR Mobile is deceiving me. 93. cjs3872 posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well murb, what's worse is how bad Denny Hamlin is running, because he had both Michael Annett and Alex Bowman breathing down his neck, and Hamlin is one of the very best at Richmond. Also, Jeff Gordon has been moving up, as he's gone from 25th all the way to ninth, while Kyle Busch has only been able to maintain his mid-pack position to this point, but he'll be moving up as the race goes along. 94. numbah10hatah posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:46 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) I have a wish that I want to come true: Jeff Gordon wins this race. 95. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:49 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Gordon is up to third. And now Ryan Truex is all the way back to the last car on the lead lap. 96. NicoRosbergFan posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:51 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Time for a competition yellow... she's about to be lapped again. 97. NicoRosbergFan posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:52 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) "I have a wish that I want to come true: Jeff Gordon wins this race. " Let me up the ante... I have a wish that I want to come true: Jeff Gordon wins the title. Brian France would spit nails if that happened. :D :D :D :D :D 98. BluesTravelerFan posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:54 pm Rate this comment: (3) (1) I don't know if this will be a popular statement, but I have a wish DSFF would come back here. 99. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gordon definitely has a good piece tonight. 100. numbah10hatah posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jeff Gordon would've had 2 more titles if there wasn't a chase... 101. NicoRosbergFan posted: 04.26.2014 - 7:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I don't know if this will be a popular statement, but I have a wish DSFF would come back here." Me too! "Jeff Gordon would've had 2 more titles if there wasn't a chase... " And both would have been clinched with at least 2 races left. 102. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Caution. 103. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Debris" 104. numbah10hatah posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Debris" 105. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bowyer is now trapped laps behind. 106. Drivefor5isalive posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gordon takes the lead! 107. numbah10hatah posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) DAMN IT MURB 108. numbah10hatah posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Where's Long Shot? 109. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If Gordon doesn't get at least one win this year, I will be shocked. 110. epzik8 posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:18 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) There are some nice paint schemes tonight. 111. numbah10hatah posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:21 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Give a call to Casey Mears! He's currently running 14th! 112. joey2448 posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Casey Mears up to 14th, and Justin Allgaier in 18th! Good for those two! 113. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Cole Whitt has his first BK breakdown. 114. numbah10hatah posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:28 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I really want to see Danica fans' excuses for her beyond terrible run tonight. 37th, 2 laps down. And our weekly BK Racing mechanical failure is brought to you by Scorpyd Crossbows and Cole Whitt Racing. 115. Jim Davis posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) How can Stenhouse be two laps down? Is he just phoning it in this season? 116. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bowyer has a problem too. Caution for debris off of Whitt's car. 117. jabber1990 posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) BK: Bad Krap or Broken Krap 118. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Cole Whitt has a fire under his car. So does Bowyer... 119. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Chunks of burning rubber all along the track and on pit road too. 120. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:31 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Bowyer now has big problems with his right front. 121. epzik8 posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This fire situation is strange! 122. numbah10hatah posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Has anyone seen a full moon anywhere? 123. Jarrett88fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:32 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) No excuse for Stenhouse when his Roush teammates have been in or around the top-10. Ripple Effect ladies and gentleman while Gordon is leading. Bowyer's just rewards. 124. jabber1990 posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) did Whitt and Bowyer lose their engines? or did their wheel bearings melt? 125. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bowyer's car had a HELL of a fire on the right front. 126. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And now Bowyer goes to the garage. 127. numbah10hatah posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:34 pm Rate this comment: (4) (1) Karma's a bitch, Bowyer. Karma's a bitch. 128. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:35 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) In my opinion, Stenhouse needs to be replaced. He is weekly being outrun by most of the rookies that are driving underfunded cars. He has a full year under his belt, he knows the Gen 6, and he also has his NNS championship crew chief with him this year. There's no excuse for him to be a 30th place driver in a Roush car. 129. Mr X posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:35 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Well hopefully this should eliminate any chance of Clint Bowyer somehow making this race difficult for Jeff to win. 130. AveryNH posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Not too much different than what happened to Suarez last night. When the tire unravels the rubber gets stuck on the already burning hot rotors and fire inevitably results. 131. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I really thought Stenhouse would do a lot better this year seeing as he had a year under his belt and he'd been reunited with his Nationwide crew chief. Instead I've been baffled seeing him regress and now regularly running as poorly as his girlfriend... 132. joey2448 posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) No full moon tonight. In fact it's quite the opposite, a waning crescent, nearly a new moon. I saw that huge dent in the right front of Bowyer's car, I thought he hit something or somebody. Just the melted front end. 133. TS1420 posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:39 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) "Instead I've been baffled seeing him regress and now regularly running as poorly as his girlfriend..." Maybe being a bad driver is an STD... 134. Jarrett88fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I too wish DSFF to come back more often Nico. Haha the last time Jeff won at Richmond, Logano was nine years old. 135. Jarrett88fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Check that box Mr. X. 136. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) DW still thinks Larson can win this race... I think Larson can come back for a top-10, but I don't know about a win... 137. JG24FanForever posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I love short-track racing. 138. Drivefor5isalive posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gordon takes the lead! 139. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yeah, Larson doesn't have that great of a car. I think he can get a top 12 or so, but definitely not a win. 140. TS1420 posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kurt & Tony running mid pack, ffs. 141. Jarrett88fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Stranger things have happened at Richmond in the recent past... Hamlin leading 381 laps in the 2008 before blowing a tire in the late laps setting up the Earnhardt-Busch tango, opening the door for Bowyer to win. 142. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:59 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Bowyer's car has been retired from the race. 143. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sorenson has a right front down, caution. 144. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 8:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Now Reed Sorenson has a problem and the yellow flag waves. 145. New14 & 88Fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jeff Gordon is really looking like the Gordon of the 90s. Great car, great restarts and fast pit stops. It'll be a shock if he doesn't win. 146. TS1420 posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:04 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Gordon's crew is on it tonight. *wonders how long before Knaus kidnaps the 24's pitcrew and replaced them with the 48's* 147. BigWill20 posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Josh Wise also had a right front tire issue 148. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It's like Gordon is on a mission tonight. 149. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I don't think I ever seen this many cars erupt in flames after suffering flat tires... 150. numbah10hatah posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Full moon. 151. BigWill20 posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) BIG fire for Sorenson 152. Jarrett88fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Correction: Hamlin led 382 laps in the 2008 race. We might be looking at three more pitstops after 50-60 laps. Unfortunately, the final one will come between lap 380 and 390. It will be interesting. Damn Chris Meyers might have FOX jinxed Gordon. 153. numbah10hatah posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hey, RaceFanX: Do you ever recall any cars before this race catching fire after cutting a tire? 154. numbah10hatah posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That Kasey Kahne pit crew member gets the Good Guy Greg award. 155. TS1420 posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I don't think I ever seen this many cars erupt in flames after suffering flat tires..." Me either. Usually maybe only one car has a flame-out during a high tire attrition race. Tonight we've had a flame-out just about every time a car has had tire issues. Mad respect to that crewman from the 13 team helping Reed out of the car. 156. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Larson looks pretty good all of a sudden. Maybe he can end up with a really good finish. 157. Jarrett88fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:14 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Kahne's crewman deserves a raise after that emergency situation. 158. TS1420 posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) "That Kasey Kahne pit crew member gets the Good Guy Greg award." Does that mean Clint Bowyer gets the Scumbag Steve Award? 159. DB1995 posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Go Joey! 160. Drivefor5isalive posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gordon takes the lead! 161. Jarrett88fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) After the air pressures build up, that #24 car looks like a rainbow hued car that reeked havoc on the competition in the mid to late 1990s. 162. Sector posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jeff Gordon has been a monster all season long. Where was this Jeff Gordon the past several years? 163. TS1420 posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) What a depressing run for Smoke tonight. 164. joey2448 posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Newman has quietly been running very well tonight, most of the race in the top-10. But that's his thing. And Junebug's been pretty fast too! 165. New14 & 88Fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Odd to see Kyle Busch running back in the teens, on the other hand good run for the Dinger. 166. TS1420 posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Jeff Gordon has been a monster all season long. Where was this Jeff Gordon the past several years?" Don't worry. Come Chase time Chairman Knaous will stifle Gordon just like he did in 2007 & 2009 (along with the rest of the championship contending Hendrick powered cars) 167. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Junior has the best car on the track right now, and he's slowly closing in on Gordon... 168. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Stenhouse just drove by Jimmie Johnson, so there must be trouble on the 48. 169. Jarrett88fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Unfortunately, TS1420 you might be correct especially with Harvick's speed and performance in the SHR car. The one aberration was the 2011 Chase. 170. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jimmie pits for a possible flat tire. 171. New14 & 88Fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Stenhouse in the wall. 172. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Stenhouse into the wall, caution. 173. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Stenhouse in the wall just as Gordon laps Larson. 174. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Stenhouse in the wall, caution out, right front is glowing. 175. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And now Stenhouse is on fire. 176. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And once again we have a car on fire. 177. numbah10hatah posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) What the f**k is going on in this race? 178. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Stenhouse just said what I was gonna post. Maybe anyone with an extinguisher should have some pep in their step. 179. Jarrett88fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Larry Mac essentially threw Mike Kelly under the bus. Interesting radio transmission that sounded muffled. 180. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Basically, if you have a tire go down in this race, prepare for your car to get incinerated... JUUUUUUUUNNNYYEEEEERRR (I call him that affectionately, BTW) gets the lead out of the pits. 181. TS1420 posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:37 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Somebody on the radio for the 17 team (Ricky?) says they need better firemen. Maybe he should have came to pit road before the small front end fire turned into a blaze. 182. joey2448 posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Tell you what, this may be shaping up perfectly for Gordo. If the trend continues of cars blowing tires after about 50-60 laps into a run, that means we'll restart here with just under 100 laps to go, the next tire to go will be about lap 350-360 for a caution, and the ensuing restart will come with about 30-40 laps to go, which will be a perfect run to the finish for the 24 car! Whoo! 183. jabber1990 posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) man, that tire-changer took fire-extinguisher chemical right to the face 184. numbah10hatah posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) TS1420: Clint Bowyer has the Permanent Scumbag Steve award. 185. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Maybe he should have came to pit road before the small front end fire turned into a blaze." Yeah, really. If he would have come in when he came back around after hitting the wall, that wouldn't have happened. 186. Jarrett88fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hold the phone especially if there is a quick caution after this restart...even Johnson and Edwards will take another wave around to get back on the lead lap. 187. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:40 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Somebody on the radio for the 17 team (Ricky?) says they need better firemen. Maybe he should have came to pit road before the small front end fire turned into a blaze. To be fair, the firemen have looked nonchalant all night. And it was probably Ricky's fastest lap all night, haha 188. TS1420 posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Three-way with Danica and everybody survives (for now). 189. TS1420 posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Oops I meant three-wide ;) 190. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:45 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Justin Allgaier has been the leading rookie in this race pretty much all night long. 191. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Also, what the hell is up with the scoring ticker? It keeps showing Junior and Gordon swapping third place over and over again when they're not even that close to each other... 192. BluesTravelerFan posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @191 I don't know for sure but I would imagine it's probably a small malfunction in their production computers. 193. Jarrett88fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The Fox ticker put Gordon into third ahead of Jr. twice in the previous segment. 194. TS1420 posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Also, what the hell is up with the scoring ticker? It keeps showing Junior and Gordon swapping third place over and over again when they're not even that close to each other..." Seems like there is some sort of scoring issue every week with that stupid "new and improved" ticker FOX unleashed on to the world this season. 195. numbah10hatah posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) WHERE DID NEWMAN COME FROM? 196. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Commercial just as Gordon and Logano are about to fight for the lead. 197. TS1420 posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hopefully Newman has the car the take on Gordon for the win. 198. numbah10hatah posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) *activates Daniel mode* Go Gordon! 199. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:56 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Did Larry Mac just tell us that the 2 best cars are running 1st and 2nd?!? 200. BluesTravelerFan posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:56 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Kenseth is coming... 201. DB1995 posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Brad is doing just like Richmond last fall, great until the end where he will finish 17th or so 202. TS1420 posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:58 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Did Larry Mac just tell us that the 2 best cars are running 1st and 2nd?!?" He is the king of stating the obvious. 203. jabber1990 posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) hey KFC, the more you use foodies (Foodys?) to sell your product the more I want to avoid you and your company I get it, you're making fun of said peoples, but it doesn't change my point 204. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 9:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Allgaier is up to 12th. Great run for him. Definitely his best Cup race so far. 205. Jarrett88fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I wish for NASCAR'S Green Initiative...green flag racing. 206. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:00 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Kenseth has the best car right now. 207. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Brian Vickers is outdoing Clint Bowyer so far this season. 208. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "He is the king of stating the obvious." lol, Like when he said "We have a caution" when Keselowski flipped at Atlanta. 209. joey2448 posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Justin Allgaier is up to 12th!!! Leading the rookies! 210. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:02 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Kenseth is blinding fast all of a sudden. He's catching Gordon for the lead. 211. TS1420 posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:02 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) WHERE THE HELL DID KENSETH COME FROM!?!?! 212. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:02 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) If we stay green Kenseth is going to win this thing going away. 213. DB1995 posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:02 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Stealth mode Kenseth coming 214. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kurt Busch to the pits. 215. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If we stay green Kenseth is going to win this thing going away. Still a pit stop left under green(fingers crossed) Not a lot of gas needed, but how many tires do you take? 216. BluesTravelerFan posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Matt is trying to pull a 90's Jeff Gordon. 217. TS1420 posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Does everybody still have to make one last pit? 218. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Vickers to 3rd? I didn't even know he was in the top ten. 219. jabber1990 posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I like the Black and Orange car (even though Home Depot's color is Orange) I don't like the yellow bumper/rear 220. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jimmie has a tire down. Probably a caution. 221. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yep. Caution. Not good for Gordon. 222. TS1420 posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:05 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I'm Jimmie Johnson. BOOM! Tire confetti. 223. New14 & 88Fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yellow for debris from JJ's flat tire. 224. numbah10hatah posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Jimmie Johnson has a flat. Yes. 225. DB1995 posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Brad went fron 2nd to 16th on that run, dissapointing 226. joey2448 posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Like I said, restart with about 25 laps to go...Gordon gonna win this thing. 227. Sector posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I always knew about the yellow, but isn't the yellow on Kenseth's rear Dollar General sponsor? Why have two at once(Home Depot & Dollar General) 228. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ha ha, Gordon slowed down once he couldn't lead off pit road to get the inside. 229. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) lol, Gordon stops on pit road so he can line up 3rd on the restart. 230. TS1420 posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Savy move, Gordon. 231. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gordon has a good shot at winning this race barring a lot of late race cautions. 232. numbah10hatah posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) AWESOME MOVE BY JEFF GORDON!!!! COME ON GORDO!!! 233. Jarrett88fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) That...was a heck of a move. Scratch it...that is why Jeff Gordon is the best out there even now in the twilight of his career. 234. Kyle Larson Hater posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (5) I hope anyone but Jeff or Jr. wins 235. TS1420 posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) "Gordon has a good shot at winning this race barring a lot of late race cautions." Out Clint Bowyer coming back out to continue his roll as Official Jeff Gordon Troll. 236. DB1995 posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Not to long ago everyone said doing stuff like that on pit road was bad, but since Gordon did it no problem right? 237. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin spins. 238. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Out Clint Bowyer coming back out to continue his roll as Official Jeff Gordon Troll." Nah, that's not going to happen since his car was retired from the race a long time ago. It would be fitting if that DID happen though... Big crash on the restart involving Denny Hamlin and Danica Patrick. Looks like I might get proven right... 239. JRacingFast posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) How about a good ol fashioned 25 lap shootout! 240. New14 & 88Fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Nicely done everyone missing Hamlin. 241. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Actually Danica just stopped to avoid Hamlin, scratch that. 242. numbah10hatah posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Oh, no...commenter #5 is back... 243. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm surprised he didn't say something like "I hope Jeff and Jr. wreck going into turn 1"... 244. Jarrett88fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) No.more.trolls or cautions for that matter. Well, there might be somebody who dive bombs turn one on the ensuring restart. 245. numbah10hatah posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Maybe Jeff can push Jr to a good restart and then Jeff can battle Jr for the win! 246. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kenseth bottle necked the whole inside up. Tough break for Allgaier. 247. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Logano spun his tires on the restart and Allgaier hit the wall. 248. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yeley blows up, caution. 249. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yeley up in smoke and it looks like Mears' left front was down. 250. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) J. J. Yeley blows up and brings out another caution. Meanwhile, Casey Mears has a flat tire. I get the feeling this is going to be a crashfest from here on out... 251. BluesTravelerFan posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I wouldn't count there being too many green laps left, because it always takes forever when any oil gets dropped on the track. Hopefully I'm wrong. 252. New14 & 88Fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yellow for Yeley's blown engine and Mears' cut tire. Logano spinning the tires really bottled up the inside line, may have cost Newman a shot at the win. 253. TS1420 posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Now should be a right time for the back half of the field to get four fresh tires and try to play spoiler to the Kenseth-Earnhardt-Gordon-Logano party. 254. Jarrett88fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gordon pit- advantage Logano passes Gordon, restarts 4th - disadvantage Bottles up field, launches past Logano, will restart 3rd - advantage What next for Gordon? 255. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:22 pm Rate this comment: (1) (2) Logano is calling out Kenseth for brake-checking him. 256. joey2448 posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well Logano got a terrible restart which allowed Gordon the opportunity to move down and get to the inside going into turn one, but for some inexplicable reason, Gordon DID NOT! And Logano divebombed into turn one underneath the 24. C'mon Jeff! 257. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:24 pm Rate this comment: (2) (2) It did look to me like Kenseth started that restart deal. 258. TS1420 posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:24 pm Rate this comment: (1) (2) I love how Kenseth always gets blamed for entitled crybabies bad restarts. 259. Sector posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:25 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Clint Bowyer will finish dead last here; This is payback for what he has caused for the Chase messed up last fall here? 260. New14 & 88Fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Dale Jr. was also complaining of Kenseth messing around on the restart. 261. BluesTravelerFan posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) They should have red flagged it... 262. JG24FanForever posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) No matter what happens, it's been fun seeing Gordon dominate a race for the first time since the 2012 Spring Martinsville. #91 in his career. 263. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kenseth is doing his best to block both lanes. 264. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Totally epic racing. 265. The Long Shot posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) "Where's Long Shot?" Band concert, just got home. Who's leading? 266. New14 & 88Fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If Brad wins this I'm gonna laugh. 267. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This is some seriously intense racing right now. 268. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Logano's gonna win. 269. New14 & 88Fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Logano's got this. 270. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That was an awesome battle between all those guys. 271. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:30 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) Demolish Kansas, Chicago, Vegas, and Kentucky and remodel them as short tracks. That's some racing there. 272. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Logano ends up coming back from his bad restart to win the race. Gordon just barely manages to hang on to second over Kyle Busch's fresh tires. Another ten laps and I think Kyle would have had this thing. 273. numbah10hatah posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (5) f**k YOU LOGANO AND KESELOWSKI 274. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:31 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Brad is mad at Kenseth. 275. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Also, Logano is definitely going to be a championship threat this year. I can totally see it. Logano blew out his tries doing his burnout. Meanwhile, Keselowski is MAD at Kenseth. 276. Jarrett88fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yep, Joey stole one there being the beneficiary of Brad and Matt getting together. 277. Sector posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If anyone wants to great racing from this decade; Record the battle of Matt Kenseth, Brad Keselowski, Jeff Gordon & Joey Logano there. That was literally intense, even though I really wanted Jeff Gordon to win this, Jeff Gordon will score a couple this year. 278. New14 & 88Fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Check out Allmedinger in sixth, he's really done that team proud. Dang it Brad... 279. DB1995 posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Oh My God!! That was racing right there!!! 280. TS1420 posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wicked finish! 'Dinger gets 6th! 281. MarkMartinFan posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:33 pm Rate this comment: (6) (4) Keselowski is a little b**** 282. Anonymous posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Joey Logano wins and Jeff Gordon finishes second. The last time that happened a good friend of mine passed away from a surprise heart attack 2 days later. I hope and pray that no one I know dies on Monday. 283. RCRandPenskeGuy posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:34 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Great finish, I think Logano's going to be a contender for the championship this year with how he is running. Also loved the 3-way battle between Keselowski, Kenseth and Gordon. By the way, it looks like Brad was angry over something he no doubt would have done had he been in Matt's position. That was just hard racing for the win. He's become a pretty big complainer. 284. Sector posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) So what we've had this season: Brad Keselowski upset with Kurt Busch @ Martinsville Kurt Busch upset with Clint Bowyer @ Darlington Brad Keselowski upset with Matt Kenseth @ Richmond Will there be another feud when Dover comes around? 285. Mr X posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm trembling that was so awesome. 286. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:35 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Mears and Ambrose throwing haymakers. 287. RCRandPenskeGuy posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:35 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Holy shit, Ambrose DECKED Mears!!! 288. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:35 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Wow, Allmendinger DID finish 6th. He's doing a damn good job for that team. Meanwhile, Casey Mears, Marcos Ambrose, and Justin Allgaier are fighting in the garage! 289. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:35 pm Rate this comment: (8) (0) Casey Mears and Marcos Ambrose have a fistfight, causing Chris Myers to have an orgasm. 290. New14 & 88Fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:36 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Harvick and Logano have now officially clinched their spots for the chase. Crazy hard racing among Kenseth, Brad and Gordon. Dick move by Brad break checking Kenseth though... And now Casey Mears and Marcos Ambrose are ducking it out in the garage area. 291. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ...or was that one of Allgaier's crew members? Wow, what a crazy race. LOTS of angry drivers after this one. 292. Jarrett88fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The Tasmanian devil slugged Meats. Holly heck! More short tracks please. 293. epzik8 posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Those last nine laps were exciting. And there are some short tempers, which isn't surprising at a track like this. There was even just a fight. 294. TS1420 posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Tasmanian Devil punches Mears!!! 295. New14 & 88Fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) *duking it out 296. RCRandPenskeGuy posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:39 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) After Brad's interview, my suspicions are confirmed. He was mad because he was on the bad end of hard racing for the win. And him brake-checking Matt after the race was ridiculous. 297. MarkMartinFan posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wow. Ambrose landed a huge punch. 298. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:41 pm Rate this comment: (5) (1) The Brad/Kenseth thing was all hard short track racing. Brad shouldn't be mad about that, but of course he is because he's quickly becoming one of the biggest hypocrites in the Cup Series. He'll race the hell out of everyone else, and then he gets mad when someone does it to him. 299. Jarrett88fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Correction: Mears 300. Sector posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wait, was that Jeff Gordon who hit Brad's left side after Brad break-checked Kenseth? 301. DB1995 posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:41 pm Rate this comment: (1) (3) People complain after not winning a race they could win, Gordons done it, Johnsons done it, Jr. Has, Tony Stewart especially has, so suddenly Brad can't sorry i cant see through your hypocrisy. 302. The Long Shot posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) The only two races I've missed so far this year have been Logano wins. I'm not sure whether I should be mad or whether I should start missing races more often. Mears, Ambrose and Allgaier duking it out? That's something you don't hear every day. Most of the time those guys are fairly mellow. 303. MarkMartinFan posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:42 pm Rate this comment: (6) (0) That was well said by Junior. Get over it Brad. 304. New14 & 88Fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:42 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) "The Brad/Kenseth thing was all hard short track racing. Brad shouldn't be mad about that, but of course he is because he's quickly becoming one of the biggest hypocrites in the Cup Series. He'll race the hell out of everyone else, and then he gets mad when someone does it to him." In other words, he's turned into Kyle Busch(ironic ain't it?). 305. TS1420 posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:42 pm Rate this comment: (2) (3) I don't blame Keselowski for being mad. Kenseth was blocking both him and Gordon like an asshat those final laps, allowing Logano to pass them all. Either him or Gordon should have just punted him. 306. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:44 pm Rate this comment: (2) (4) I do think Kenseth deserves a bit of heat though, but mainly because of his chicanery on that restart where he bottlenecked the whole inside line. 307. BluesTravelerFan posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Apologies for the premature comment at 261. Decent race overall, really good finish, I never felt that comfortable for Jeff, he hasn't had the best recent history at closing the deal, ultimately the lack of a decent green late hurt him. Kenseth had it, but then the final cautions allowed Joey to steal it. Two or so laps of epic stuff. Had a blast as usual with you guys, see y'all soon. 308. The Long Shot posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:44 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "People complain after not winning a race they could win, Gordons done it, Johnsons done it, Jr. Has, Tony Stewart especially has, so suddenly Brad can't sorry i cant see through your hypocrisy." Didn't see the quotes in question, but there's a difference between bemoaning the fact that you could have won a race and complaining about other drivers racing you hard. Your Tony Stewart comparison in particular makes no sense, as he's one of the most disliked drivers on this board for the exact same reason. 309. New14 & 88Fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Kenseth was blocking both him and Gordon like an asshat those final laps, allowing Logano to pass them all." When it's the last few laps and you're the leader, you gotta defend your position. If anything Kenseth messing around on the restarts was worse than any blocking he did. 310. Jarrett88fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Kenseth turning heel? No way. 311. Kyle K. posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:49 pm Rate this comment: (3) (4) Awesome finish. Shame about the winner though. 312. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:50 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Mears, Ambrose and Allgaier duking it out? That's something you don't hear every day. Most of the time those guys are fairly mellow. They just showed that again, it looked like a 51 crew member that was separating Mears and Ambrose, unless Justin was wearing stilts. 313. Schroeder51 posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yeah, I think it was a crewmember trying to separate Mears and Ambrose. I thought it was Allgaier at first, but I guess not. Damn, though...when was the last time we had this many angry drivers after a race? 314. Sector posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:53 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) You might as well say its karma. Kenseth break checking Logano lead to Logano winning with his teammate Keselowski not being happy with Kenseth in the end. 315. BluesTravelerFan posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:55 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) I already said goodbye, but I have to relay this comment from Lewis Franck: "Boris Said just offered to stand in for Casey Mears". 316. Jarrett88fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gordon really was smart the final nine laps as he could have jumped over Kenseth's inside twice and taped the 2 car, but took the safe route. Talladega should be interesting as well. 317. murb posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I don't think Allgaier was in that fight. It was Ambrose and Mears, and then Allgaier's crew guy tried to break it up, and then Ambrose got in a fight with the crew guy. I didn't see the incident, but if I had to guess, I'd say that Ambrose was the one that started it. I think he's a great guy personally, but he tears up a lot of sheet metal out there. Even though he's been in Nascar for a while now, it seems he still doesn't know how to fully control his race car. 318. Jarrett88fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 10:59 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Lost in the spectacle was the Singer's run to 6th place on 8 lap fresher tires as well as hard luck Truex in 10th place both with much needed good finishes. 319. New14 & 88Fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 11:02 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Why do they media hounds harp payback everytime two drivers get in a tiff? Most feuds these days are pretty much duds. Last year Kyle Busch dumped Brad in the Kansas N'wide race and all they did was exchange insults. Same with Brad and Kurt at Martinsville(Kurt got his "payback by winning the race) and Kurt and Bowyer after Darlington(which Bowyer took the blame for). Nothing will happen between Brad and Kenseth, they both have more important things on their minds than paying each other back for a racing deal. Ambrose and Mears on the other hand, they definitely won't be on speaking terms for a good while. In fact NASCAR will probably be looking into that and handing out some fines and probations. 320. Jarrett88fan posted: 04.26.2014 - 11:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Dinger, not Singer... my excitement and autocorrect feature on my mobile device has lead to many corrections. 321. RCRandPenskeGuy posted: 04.26.2014 - 11:07 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I didn't see the incident that sparked the whole thing with Ambrose and Mears, but Mears started the physical stuff by grabbing Marcos. 322. JG24FanForever posted: 04.26.2014 - 11:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jeff Gordon ties Dale Earnhardt's all-time record of Top 2 finishes from a starting position of 11th or worse with his 54th. Jeff finally dominates a race for the modern record 91st time. 20th time he's dominated a short-track event, and his 30th short-track Top 2 finish. 323. joey2448 posted: 04.26.2014 - 11:16 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) WHOOOOOO!!!!!! What a race! What a finish! If you can't get into that, then you are not human. The final nine laps featured some of the best racing you'll ever see in this sport. On par with races like Watkins Glen 2012... None of those drivers battling for the win there (Kenseth, Gordon, Keselowski, Logano) did anything wrong. Kenseth was fine to block, IMO. Look, no one got wrecked, right? It was good hard racing. WWDSD? (What Would Dale Senior Do?) And the brawl in the garage was great theatre! Ambrose actually did something that most drivers today are too afraid to do...THROW A PUNCH! Looks like Mears was really hassling him and pushing him around, and so he wasn't gonna take it. He swung baby! 324. cjs3872 posted: 04.26.2014 - 11:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well, I think that the post-race incident between he and Casey Mears might very well have been the last straw for Marcos Ambrose at Richard Petty Motorsports, because Petty has never been the type to stand for that sort of thing. I've thought that Ambrose might be on thin ice over there for quite a while because of his lack of performance, but this might have been the straw that broke the camel's back, so to speak. In fact, the #9 car might have a different driver at Talladega, because it wouldn't surprise me if he got suspended for that race, because striking another driver, much less punching another driver, is something NASCAR will definitely not stand for. Expect a heavy fine, if not a suspension (or possibly both) for Ambrose for that post-race incident. And Brad was busy after the race. Not only did he accost Matt Kenseth, but he also brought back memories of the driver most synonymous with the #2 of Team Penske, Rusty Wallace, by literally jumping on the hood of teammate Joey Logano's car in congratulation for his teammate's triumph, just like Wallace jumped off the hood of his car when he won the championship in 1989 in a cheerless finale (Grant Adcox had been killed in that race). And am I the only one that thinks this, but despite how well he's running, it seems to me like Jeff Gordon may go winless this season for the third time in seven years, not because he isn't running well enough, but rather because the types of cars he has never seem to match up to the runs to the finish. If he has a short run car, there's a long run to the finish, and if he has a long run car, there are numerous sprints near the finish. And that's something that no team can control. It wouldn't surprise me if that team started to struggle because when you get so close so any times and can't finish it off, it tends to defeat a team, which is exactly what happened to that very team in 2010, and I think it may start to happen to that team again very soon. So if that team began to struggle to find the top five, and then the top ten, it would not surprise me at all, because that team is a momentum team, and when they start to lose their momentum, it seems to go downhill faster than it would with other top teams. If he doesn't win by the end of FOX's NASCAR coverage this season, I think he goes winless this season and eventually slides and possibly even misses the Chase because I think they'll be mentally defeated. 325. Jim Davis posted: 04.26.2014 - 11:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "...because Petty has never been the type to stand for that sort of thing." Petty's name is on the team but does he call the shots at RPM these days? Last year we found out who was the senior partner at Stewart-Haas. 326. RaceFanX posted: 04.26.2014 - 11:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Are they really trying to analyze the strategy of the fight on NASCAR Victory Lane? Sheesh. 327. Paul posted: 04.27.2014 - 12:18 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) So Kenseth runs Brad up into the wall a little bit while trying to win the race and earn a berth in the Chase, and Brad is so mad at him for doing everything he could to win that he not only bumps Kenseth in the middle of the corner (which prevented Kenseth from challenging Logano or Gordon for a top-2 finish), but then he brake checks him after the race. The bump in the corner was fine in my eyes because from Brad's point of view, Kenseth was racing him dirty and the bump was just a fair payback. But then to brake check the guy that you just paid back (along with an innocent bystander in AJ Allmendinger) after the race is completely uncalled for. At least one Penske driver seems to have his head on straight this season. Speaking of which, hell of a job by Joey Logano tonight. He had a great car all night long (even though it was obvious that it was set-up for the short green flag runs), and took advantage of his competition's 3-way fight for the lead at the very end and was able to come away with the victory. By scoring his second Cup victory of the season, Logano pretty much locks himself up for a Chase bid come this fall. And not only did Logano achieve his first multi-win Cup season tonight, but by leading 46 laps he also set a career-high for laps led in a season. We're just one quarter of the way through the 2014 Cup season, and already 23-year old Joey Logano is having a career year and has emerged as one of the odds-on favorites for this year's championship. You know Jeff Gordon is having a hell of a year when he finishes second and you (as a fan) feel disappointed. That's how I felt after he lost the lead to Kenseth and ultimately finished runner-up to Logano (again) here tonight. He's sure to win several races this season with the way he and the #24 team have performed thus far, as they seem to be the most complete unit in the Hendrick Motorsports stable in 2014. I wish he could have won tonight, but it's hard to complain when your favorite driver finishes in 2nd place and retains the points lead. How about AJ Allmendinger and that #47 team? With this sixth place finish, JTG Daugherty Racing scores its best non-restrictor plate oval finish since ending its alliance with Michael Waltrip Racing, and AJ posts his best finish since finishing 2nd at Martinsville in the spring of 2012. Sitting 17th in the points after nine races, this team seems to be emerging as the best single-car team in Cup right now, thanks in large part to the changes made this past off-season (driver change, manufacturer change, RCR technical alliance, etc.). It's a shame that Justin Allgaier wound up with a 21st place finish after hitting the wall late in the race, because he had a top-15 run going in that #51 car. If he could just tone down his aggression in these longer Cup races and learn that sometimes you just have to settle for whatever finish you've been dealt, he might be a really good NASCAR driver some day. He's a rookie driver driving for a rookie Cup team, and races like this are just what he and his team need going forward. Now they just need to finish where they run. I don't know what on-track incident led to the Ambrose/Mears fight after the race, but both drivers come out of this one looking worse than they did before the cameras caught them in the act. Mears looks bad because he's supposed to be this calm, reserved guy, and yet he was the one that started this whole thing by grabbing and jerking Ambrose around in what looked like an unprovoked manner. Perhaps Ambrose said something that angered Mears, but it's tough to tell if that's the case because Ambrose's back was facing the camera. But Ambrose looks even worse after that ordeal because he's supposed to be this smiling, happy-go-lucky Tasmanian driver, driving for a team named after a former driver with a similar demeanor, and here he is punching someone on national television. I don't know if or what punishment NASCAR will hand down on these two drivers, but if they punish Ambrose for throwing the first punch, they need to punish Mears as well because he was the instigator in this whole situation. One final thought: Props to Martin Truex, Jr. and the #78 team for coming out of this one with a top ten finish. That team had struggled mightily through the first eight races (They had earned just two top-20 finishes entering tonight's race.), so for them to run as well as they did tonight and come away with a 10th place finish probably did a lot of good for that team internally, especially since they no longer appear to be RCR's top satellite team. And considering what went down for Truex at the last Richmond race, when his own organization tried to weasel out a Chase berth for him by having the #15 car intentionally spin out, which led to NASCAR disqualifying Truex from the Chase, NAPA Auto Parts dropping their sponsorship at season's end, and him losing his ride, this had to be somewhat redeeming for Truex after what all that BS last fall. Plus, it doesn't hurt that the #15 team had a miserable night that ended with a 43rd place finish either. 328. Paul posted: 04.27.2014 - 12:27 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) "I don't think Allgaier was in that fight." He wasn't. A few of his crew guys were in the area of the fight, including the guy who stepped in and separated Ambrose from Mears, but I didn't see Allgaier there. "and then Ambrose got in a fight with the crew guy." Hmmm...I'm not so sure about that. I could be mistaken since I only saw footage of the incident one time, but it looked like the #51 crew member stepped in to break up the fight and Ambrose didn't resist. "Expect a heavy fine, if not a suspension (or possibly both) for Ambrose for that post-race incident." Like I said before, if NASCAR punishes Ambrose for punching Mears, they should punish Mears as well because he instigated that whole thing by grabbing Ambrose and jerking him the way he did. Sure, Ambrose overreacted by taking liberties on Mears' face with his fist, but that reaction would have likely never happened had Mears not laid a hand on Ambrose to begin with. 329. 23andJoe posted: 04.27.2014 - 12:31 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) #26 owner: BK Racing 330. murb posted: 04.27.2014 - 12:35 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Hmmm...I'm not so sure about that. I could be mistaken since I only saw footage of the incident one time, but it looked like the #51 crew member stepped in to break up the fight and Ambrose didn't resist." I could be wrong, but I thought I saw Ambrose take a swing at the crew guy after the crew guy separated him from Mears. But like I said, I could be wrong. There were a ton of people down there so it was really hard to tell who was where and doing what. 331. cjs3872 posted: 04.27.2014 - 12:46 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) What makes you think Gordon's going to win this year, Paul? Sure, the way he's running, it would figure that he should win at least once, just by the law of averages itself. But remember this. Gordon is a momentum driver, but that works two ways. Sure when he gets on a hot streak, like he's on now, he runs great just about anywhere. But when he starts to struggle somewhat, especially with his confidence, that momentum could just as easily go the other way, and with him having come so close as often as he has already this season, he has to start thinking about it, and that negativity can seep into that team, and if it does, this ride he's currently on can go away very quickly. And I'm on record as predicting that if he doesn't win before FOX's coverage ends for this season, he will not win this year and may even have trouble getting into the Chase, though he should squeak in. And he's only got three more races to make that happen, Talladega, Charlotte, and Dover. If he doesn't win one of those or a fourth All-Star Race, he will not win at all this season, and will begin to slide. Remember that Matt Kenseth, Jimmie Johnson, Kasey Kahne, Tony Stewart, Greg Biffle, and Denny Hamlin are among the star drivers that, like Gordon, are also winless this season, and I expect at least four of those drivers to get a win in the next 6-8 races, and there's a very good chance that Gordon will not be one of them. If that is so, then I think this season will be much like 2010 was for Gordon, which consisted of quite a number of great runs and near-misses early in the season, but those near misses demoralized Gordon and the #24 team, and they went downhill much of the second half of that season, ending up going winless for the second time in three seasons. I see the exact same thing happening if Gordon doesn't score a win by the end of FOX's NASCAR coverage this season, with Gordon ultimately going winless for the third time in seven seasons. 332. murb posted: 04.27.2014 - 12:47 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Oh okay, I just watched the Ambrose/Mears fight again. What actually happened after Ambrose got separated from Mears was that one of Mears' crew members came over, and that's who Ambrose threw a second punch at. Not Allgaier's crew member. My mistake. 333. dammit posted: 04.27.2014 - 12:48 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) I miss the end they thru me out the damn track 334. luigistarted06 posted: 04.27.2014 - 12:55 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I wonder who would drive the #9 is Ambrose is suspended... 335. AlexBroman2383 posted: 04.27.2014 - 12:56 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) It's total BS if NASCAR fines/suspends Mears or Ambrose for their post race altercation. Whatever happened to "have at it boys?" A small fine wouldn't upset me, but if suspensions are handed out to either driver, that would be overkill for sure, and devastating to their respective teams. NASCAR shouldn't feel obligated to mettle with off track incidents, leave that to be sorted out by the drivers and crews of the respected teams. It's time to stop pussifying sports in general and let the competitors show their emotions, even if it ends in fisticuffs. 336. Sarf52 posted: 04.27.2014 - 1:04 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) If Mears were to be suspended (which he shouldn't) it would be a real shot to Germain, especially at Talladega, a race where it's reasonable to consider Mears a potential winner. I also have no idea who would replace him in the car. Maybe a throwback to Max Papis? Reunion with ex-Germain Truck driver Todd Bodine? Mike Wallace? 337. cjs3872 posted: 04.27.2014 - 1:10 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Having someone like Gordon return to winning races, as he did three years ago when he won three times, is just the kind of thing NASCAR needs right now. And I'm not doubting that he can keep this up, even if he doesn't win. What I'm saying is that he's the sport's ultimate momentum driver, but that works two ways. He's capable of prolonged periods of running like he is now, but if he and his team get down because of how close he is to winning and not being able to finish it off, it has a tendency to weigh a team down, and can mentally defeat a driver, even one the caliber of Jeff Gordon, and the way he's run to this point in the season is really similar to 2010, when he dominated several races, nearly winning three or four, but the fact that he couldn't get over the hump eventually defeated them mentally, which was a big reason for their struggles later on that season. He'll continue to run well if he and his team don't get defeated mentally, but if Gordon lets this run of near-misses get to him, as it did in 2010, then I think he'll begin to struggle. And with so many other top drivers (Johnson, Kenseth, Kahne, Hamlin, Biffle, and Stewart) having failed to win, I just think they'll have a better chance to get to victory lane when they get into position because they seem to have more confidence about finishing off races than Gordon does. 338. Bender Rodriguez posted: 04.27.2014 - 1:11 am Rate this comment: (1) (3) Let me say this again to you CJS you've beaten this dead horse into the ground regarding Jeff Gordon So SHUT UP & Bite my shiny Metal Ass 339. Jarrett88fan posted: 04.27.2014 - 1:21 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I expect some of the teams that have won to use the next few months races as rolling science experiments which opens the door for Kenseth, Johnson, Gordon, etc. to win before the Chase. The early portion of this season has turned out in reverse of the previous few years with potential championship contenders having yet to win. 340. Benjamin Lowe posted: 04.27.2014 - 1:23 am Rate this comment: (0) (2) Hey Guys anyone here miss me 341. cjs3872 posted: 04.27.2014 - 1:49 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well, it has Jarrett88fan, and the new Chase format may have had the opposite effect on those teams that many have expected, because they seem to believe that a win will fall into their lap, and it very well might, but it's been an oddball year for numerous teams. Both Gordon and Johnson had wins evaporate as a result of late caution periods, while Kenseth, Kahne, Hamlin (except for Daytona), and Biffle have all run much worse than expected. Tony Stewart has struggled, as expected, because he's nowhere near fully recovered from his leg injury from last year, and I don't expect he will be until much later in the year, possibly not until after the Brickyard 400, and I think his injuries have to have had an adverse effect on his performances at both Martinsville and Richmond, where he's usually very good, but hard braking tracks are still very hard on him. He'll probably struggle on the road courses for the same reason. But I think he'll be a very big factor at Talladega, and if he won that race, it would surprise nobody. And on another note. If Ambrose got suspended (or released), Petty would have a interesting decision on who to put in the #9 car. He can't put Trevor Bayne in that car at Talladega, since he'll be in the #21 car for that race, and since that's a Ford team, they'll be low on other potential options for replacement drivers. Otherwise, there would be a number of potential options, including Elliott Sadler, who nearly won the Daytona 500 for that organization. And speaking of Bayne, I wonder just how long it's going to be before Roush considers him to replace Ricky Stenhouse, Jr., because even before his crash, Stenhouse RAN below 30th place for much of this one. Despite getting his NNS crew chief back, it's now crystal clear that Stenhouse has regressed, and seemingly has regressed badly, just about to the point where I'm about ready to call him an abject failure in the Cup Series. Now we all know Roush is struggling in both the Nationwide Series and the Cup Series, and they've even announced intentions of bringing out a new chassis at Charlotte (and it's not likely to help them in the NNS), but struggling is one thing, but for a high-buck car to be running so horrendously bad to the point where they're in the bottom quarter of the field makes me want to think that Stenhouse is a complete failure in the Cup Series. I'm not quite ready to make that call, but it's getting close to the time where I can make that call with some degree of confidence. 342. murb posted: 04.27.2014 - 1:54 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I don't expect Ambrose to be suspended for Talladega, but if that did happen, I'd love to see Parker Kligerman get to run the 9 car. I think he'd do a damn good job too. He's a good plate racer, and remember that he won the Truck race there in 2012. 343. cjs3872 posted: 04.27.2014 - 2:08 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) But murb, even though Kligerman got sidelined as a result of the whole Swan Racing mess, if I'm not mistaken, he's still contracted to them, and that's a Toyota operation, so I doubt that Toyota would let him race for a Ford team. I don't seriously think that Ambrose would be suspended, though I do think a heavy fine is in order, because that's not the image NASCAR wants to present of itself. And I do expect Casey ears to get fined, though it shouldn't be quite as heavy a fine as the one that should be coming Ambrose's way. He may have instigated it, but nobody deserves to be punched in the face like that. However, Mears is far from the first driver that Ambrose has angered. Remember Kevin Harvick's opinions of him last year. Harvick called him a "weapon", and Kasey Kahne and Jimmie Johnson, of all people, had some not-so-favorable things to say about him after last year's Firecracker 400 at Daytona. So Ambrose has a history of ticking other drivers off with his overaggressiveness, and it's about time someone confronted him about it. And I do want to amend something I wrote in post #331. There's also a race at Kansas in May, and I apologize for leaving that race out of those remaining in the FOX portion of the 2014 NASCAR season. 344. Thomas posted: 04.27.2014 - 2:20 am Rate this comment: (2) (5) I thought he had more class than he showed tonight, but Kenseth has now been demoted to the class of racers known as Gibbs Goons along with his teammates, Hamlin and Rowdy, and Moldy Bread. Brad's had enough problems with guys trying to put him in the wall (most notably Kenseth's former teammate Edwards) and it was clear Kenseth was trying to put Brad in the wall to keep him from making the pass. Blocking him, while bad, would have been tolerable. Trying to wreck him is another story. 345. 18fan posted: 04.27.2014 - 4:31 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) The way I saw it, after Ambrose punched Mears, the crew guy from the 51 was leading Marcos away and one of Mears' crew guys went after Ambrose and then they disappeared from view, but it looked like Ambrose and a crew member from the 13 were getting ready to go at it. 346. Scott. B posted: 04.27.2014 - 4:32 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) No start and parks tonight. Reed Sorenson's DNF is listed as electrical, which is often code for a valet job, but this was legitimate burnt wiring in the aftermath of one of many flaming right front tire incidents in this race. 347. Scott. B posted: 04.27.2014 - 4:40 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) J.J. Yeley's first start of the year, and it comes in the #30 as a result of the Swan Racing fallout. His previous 2014 attempts in the #44 ended either in DNQ's or the team withdrawing the entry. 348. NicoRosbergFan posted: 04.27.2014 - 4:51 am Rate this comment: (1) (10) Wow, Kenseth. The only time I drive like that much of a f*cker is on video games. Ed Elisian ring a bell, jackass? 349. Scott. B posted: 04.27.2014 - 5:02 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Justin Allgaier's late-race trouble after a strong run allow Kyle Larson to be the top finishing rookie for the sixth time in nine races, while Austin Dillon has the other three. I expected those two to be the ROTY candidates that had the best results, but I wouldn't have thought we'd go this deep into the season without at least one of the others picking up a best rookie finish. But next week is a plate race, so that could be a breakthrough for one of the less funded rookie drivers. 350. joey2448 posted: 04.27.2014 - 5:49 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) One thing here that no one has mentioned is the post-race "dance" Keselowski did on Logano's hood as a way of congratulating his teammate. One of the things that crossed my mind when I saw that was "gee I wonder if Logano's car is going to fail post-race inspection because of this?" Since Brad hopped up on his hood, could that damage it enough to the point of the measurements being off? No one should be suspended from fighting after the race. I think fines and perhaps points deductions are in order, but this is NASCAR. Remember Daytona 1979? Or Mikey at Michigan in the 90's? Or Biffle at this same track in that Busch race? Let the drivers settle their differences in the garage area. Not on the track. We don't need torn up cars. Also, as much as I still love Bad Brad, I do think his behavior is getting a little out of line (We need DSFF here to 'splain things). He does seem to be complaining an awful lot about getting raced hard. I love the fact that he's not afraid to voice his opinions, because honestly we need more of that, but when you race hard at the end of the race for a win, you expect to get blocked. If you can't stand it, go to Europe and drive in F1. 351. joey2448 posted: 04.27.2014 - 6:11 am Rate this comment: (2) (0) Also a topic of conversation after this race -- Jimmie Johnson. The tires this year have given JJ problems. He's been fast this year, but tires have been the 48 team's kryptonite. We all expect he will win eventually and make the Chase, but will he? We also know he loves running wild setups, ones that create such a loose car that he's one of the only drivers in the garage that can hang onto it. We all criticize him for always spinning out by himself (including me) but a lot of that is his car setups, and I think the setups are doing him in. Those setups must be hard on the tires, like when he ran Fontana and lost a sure victory due to the aggressive setup (and the backstretch bumps) that led to a tire failure late in the race. If Chad Knaus continues to give JJ aggressive car setups, he will likely continue to run into problems in the race. And I don't know if they can afford to do that with the tires Goodyear has brought to the table this year. I believe this year may be Jimmie's "Jeff Gordon 2002"...meaning it could be the beginning of the end (as far as winning championships are concerned). 352. NicoRosbergFan posted: 04.27.2014 - 6:43 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) " We also know he loves running wild setups, ones that create such a loose car that he's one of the only drivers in the garage that can hang onto it. We all criticize him for always spinning out by himself (including me) but a lot of that is his car setups, and I think the setups are doing him in. Those setups must be hard on the tires, like when he ran Fontana and lost a sure victory due to the aggressive setup (and the backstretch bumps) that led to a tire failure late in the race. If Chad Knaus continues to give JJ aggressive car setups, he will likely continue to run into problems in the race. And I don't know if they can afford to do that with the tires Goodyear has brought to the table this year. I believe this year may be Jimmie's "Jeff Gordon 2002"...meaning it could be the beginning of the end (as far as winning championships are concerned). " It's an interesting thought, but one we can't be sure of. I think life's just catching up and reality's kicking in... the reality of "Hey, there's a life out there!" 353. Zackary Shawn posted: 04.27.2014 - 7:25 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jimmie Johnson is 8th in points, the lowest he's ever been after 9 races. His previously low was 6th in 2002 and 2012. This really doesn't feel like a Jimmie Johnson year, which is a rarity these days, and for most of you that's a very good thing. 354. DaleSrFanForever posted: 04.27.2014 - 7:34 am Rate this comment: (2) (0) Wow. I actually hate I missed this one. Logano is for real. I was dead wrong. He was just a bad fit at JGR. He will be Penske's ace soon. 355. NicoRosbergFan posted: 04.27.2014 - 8:19 am Rate this comment: (1) (3) "Jimmie Johnson is 8th in points, the lowest he's ever been after 9 races. His previously low was 6th in 2002 and 2012. This really doesn't feel like a Jimmie Johnson year, which is a rarity these days, and for most of you that's a very good thing. " Well, y'know being in the least competitive era in the history of NASCAR, F1, WRC, WTCC, and sports cars all at once isn't easy. Most of us can only look to IndyCar for a series with variety and parity. 356. Watto posted: 04.27.2014 - 8:27 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) In regards to the Ambrose/Mears fight that many are discussing, it hasn't been noted, but I'm pretty sure an ECR employee landed a punch on Ambrose's head as they were getting broken apart. Directly after, a Mears crew member tries to get in on the action as well. The Allgaier crew member does indeed to be just trying to break it up. 357. startandparkfan posted: 04.27.2014 - 8:40 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) Good run for the #47 team and A.J. Allmendinger! Expect him to be a factor later in the season, especially at the road courses. Also, the #26 is now owned by BK racing. 358. SpeedWorld97 posted: 04.27.2014 - 10:22 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Maybe a throwback to Max Papis?" Max Papis wouldn't be able to, as he's running the TUDOR United Sports Car Race at Laguna Seca next Sunday. 359. cjs3872 posted: 04.27.2014 - 10:34 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) The thing regarding Jimmie Johnson and his tire problems so far this season is that his team has not been as quick to adjust to the setups causing the tire problems as have some of the other teams (the 24, 88, and the Penske teams, for instance). But everyone's having problems, so I wouldn't place this just with the #48 team. What's happened is that the combination of the increased downforce, along with the lower ride height has put more strain on the tires than they can stand, and the result is the massive amount of tire problems that have been seen across the board this year. The tires simply can not stand the pressure that's being put on them, and I do not blame the teams for this, nor do I blame Goodyear. I put quite a bit of the blame for this on NASCAR itself, because the setups their rule changes have permitted have been what's brought this on, because this is happening everywhere, and except for one instance in the NNS race at Richmond with a rookie driver, the tire problems we've seen in the Cup Series have not carried over to the other series, mainly because the other series still have these minimum ride height rules. The fact that the tires are basically digging into the track more than has been seen is a big part of why the tires are tearing up faster than ever, and doing so in ways we've never seen before, and I put this squarely on NASCAR's shoulders because the repealing of the minimum ride height rule and the setups that are being used as a result are a big reason why we're seeing these problems practically everywhere. I expect big problems at Kansas and Charlotte later this month for the same reason. They're putting more pressure on the tires than they can stand, and unless something is done by NASCAR itself (like reinstituting the minimum ride height rule), this is not going to get better, and may even get worse. Remember that they haven't been to very many high-speed tracks this year, and with Kansas, Charlotte, Dover, Pocono, Michigan, Kentucky, and Indy all coming up by the end of July, these tire problems, if they continue, which I think they will, may end up resulting in more than one injured driver because of the high-speed crashes that are likely to result from these continuing tire problems. And yes, I think the problem is THAT serious, and I place the blame squarely on NASCAR. We haven't seen tire problems like this since the last tire war 20 years ago, and that did result in a number of injured drivers, including the near-fatal crash of Ernie Irvan, who was battling for the championship at the time of his crash. 360. Daniel posted: 04.27.2014 - 10:41 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Go Gordon! 361. DaleSrFanForever posted: 04.27.2014 - 10:57 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) Saw the YouTube video of the punch. Mears, with his shoving of Ambrose, started something that Marcos finished! 362. Anonymous posted: 04.27.2014 - 12:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) in response to comment 341 tony stewart is actually 4 places better than he was this time last year in 2013 after 9 races he averaged 21.11 wheras this year after nine races hes averaging 17.11 363. Destroyahirismix666 posted: 04.27.2014 - 12:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I have never liked Richmond racing, and save for when it becomes a wreckfest, it always has become very dull to me. I do still think that Richmond should lose it's spring date. That said, after sleeping through laps 50-150~ish, I was awake to watch the rest of the event. Good god, I have NEVER seen that many cars on fire in one race. The tires were acting like arsonists. I feel real bad for Larson, but at least we can say it wasn't anything he did. He did rebound decently well. Bowyer, HA! That's what you get, you -censored-! This will go into my book as a real memorable finish. Seeing Kenseth, Brad, Gordon, and Logano all going at it was twice as memorable watching it with my family. My mother is a huge Logano fan, so she was cheering him on like crazy. My father is a huge Brad K fan, and also despises Gordon. I despise Kes, and was pulling hard for Gordon and Logano. All of our shouting probably kept the neighborhood awake. Logano got real lucky though, because Gordon nudged Brad just enough at one point that the #2 got sideways, and could very easily have ran into the side of Logano's car, breaking his momentum. While I do feel that Kenseth was driving like an idiot, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, this IS short track racing, and he was holding off two former champions with better cars. Joey literally burned the tires down, getting to victory lane on ONLY the rims of the tires. 364. Anonymous posted: 04.27.2014 - 12:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (3) AMAZING to watch Matt Kenseth choke away another one. He finished about as bad as he could have! What's better is my two least favorite drivers (Kes and Kenseth) got into an altercation. Too bad like every feud this year it's just gonna be a one race ordeal. Ugh just watch Kenseth and Kes push each other to win next week... 365. NicoRosbergFan posted: 04.27.2014 - 12:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I must say that I myself am actually impressed with Logano. He pretty failed to live up to the hype. Then he got to the age most people are when they get to this level, and now I'd say he's one the best in the sport alongside Jimmie and Brad, to name a couple. 366. jabber1990 posted: 04.27.2014 - 12:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) "And speaking of Bayne, I wonder just how long it's going to be before Roush considers him to replace Ricky Stenhouse, Jr." Roush is probably dumping more money into his Nationwide program (lack of funding, destoryed cars, etc.) than he is into that #17 car which isn't fully-funded "Kenseth has now been demoted to the class of racers known as Gibbs Goons along with his teammates, Hamlin and Rowdy, and Moldy Bread." I can only speak for Kenseth and Logano, there must be something in that 20 car that can't wash off that Stewart left behind "One thing here that no one has mentioned is the post-race "dance" Keselowski did on Logano's hood as a way of congratulating his teammate. One of the things that crossed my mind when I saw that was "gee I wonder if Logano's car is going to fail post-race inspection because of this?" Since Brad hopped up on his hood, could that damage it enough to the point of the measurements being off?" thats the first thing I thought 367. jabber1990 posted: 04.27.2014 - 1:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Joey literally burned the tires down, getting to victory lane on ONLY the rims of the tires." Best Donut Ever! 368. DB1995 posted: 04.27.2014 - 1:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "One thing here that no one has mentioned is the post-race "dance" Keselowski did on Logano's hood as a way of congratulating his teammate. One of the things that crossed my mind when I saw that was "gee I wonder if Logano's car is going to fail post-race inspection because of this?" Since Brad hopped up on his hood, could that damage it enough to the point of the measurements being off? I think the hood is carbon fiber, so while it bends it will push back to the normal shape, I think 369. cjs3872 posted: 04.27.2014 - 1:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) NicoRosbergFan, I'm not sure he failed to live up to he hype at JGR as much as it was the fact that he simply wasn't ready, and then when he got a couple of years of experience under his belt, he got so mentally deflated, that it became obvious that things were never going to work out there at JGR. But as I've reiterated, Gibbs really didn't have much of a choice when he hired Joey Logano, because there really wasn't anyone else available at that time worthy of such a great car when Tony Stewart decided to leave. And I felt that whoever it was that replaced Tony Stewart was going to struggle anyway, because of the pressure of being the first in that car after Tony left, and Joey just happened to be the unlucky one. That, plus the fact that emphasis had been taken away from the #20 car so the #18, JGR's flagship car, would be a contender again, meant that Logano effectively had no chance in that car. And Logano has to be laughing inside every time he does well and the JGR cars struggle, as they did last night (don't let the results fool anyone, because all three JGR cars struggled badly). One interesting sidelight to last night's race was the cat-and-mouse game that Jeff Gordon was playing with the Penske cars. That's because, although Gordon said he had a good long run car, what appeared to me to be happening was that the Penske drivers wanted to run as hard as they could (neither Logano or Brad Keselowski are really that good at managing tires), so Gordon would simply let them go, knowing they couldn't run as hard as they wanted to because of the tire situation, so Gordon let them run hard for a few laps and let them pass him, and then predictably watched as they backed right up to him, because Gordon knew you could not run as hard as you wanted to run. And if it weren't for the rash of late cautions, Gordon likely wins this one in a walk. One thing that I think is helping him is that the drivers can't run as hard as they used to because of the tire situation, and as long as that continues to be the case, Gordon will continue to be a dominant factor in these races running at 80-85%, because he knows that's as hard as the tires will accept being run with the current setups. Gordon and Tony Stewart are about the only drivers left among the contenders who were factors the last time that tire management was a significant factor in how races were run, and Tony was just starting his Cup career then. But if and when we get to a situation where the drivers can run as hard as they can again, that's when I think Gordon may begin to struggle because when others are able to run flat-out all the time, especially at the speedways, he has a hard time keeping up. But as long as tire management continues to be a major factor in these races, Gordon will continue to be a major contender because there's nobody among the weekly contenders now that's really that close to him when it comes to conserving tires, and that's long been Gordon's ace in the hole, and now he's finally able to use it again. 370. cjs3872 posted: 04.27.2014 - 1:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I did refer to Brad's jumping onto the hood of Joey Logano's car in post #324. I compared that to the driver synonymous with the very car he's driving when I brought up Rusty Wallace jumping off the hood of his car on that cheerless day in Atlanta in 1989 when Wallace won his only championship. And jabber1990, the reason Roush may be forced to put more money into his Nationwide program has to do with all the NNS cars that have been wrecked over the last 15-18 months. I don't think he's doing that by choice. And if he's not putting that much effort into the #17 Cup car, then what does that say about what he thinks about Stenhouse in the Cup Series? And if what you're saying regarding Roush not putting that much effort into the #17 car is true, then Roush himself must not think all that much about Ricky Stenhouse's Cup prospects if he's not putting that much effort into that car. And with this season being worse than his rookie season, and Roush not putting that much effort into the #17 car (if what you say is true), then perhaps he may be setting Stenhouse up to fail, which he has certainly done so far this season, aside from a second place finish at Bristol. Frankly, I can't believe that Roush isn't putting very much effort into the #17 car. It's just that Stenhouse seems to be an abject failure in the Cup Series at this point, as he's regressed, and regressed badly, even with his NNS crew chief back, which may be even more telling. 371. Harvickfan4Life posted: 04.27.2014 - 2:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This was Martin Truex Jr's first top 10 finish of the year! 372. murb posted: 04.27.2014 - 2:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I agree with DSFF about Logano. He has proven everybody wrong (including me - some of my comments on him a couple years ago are pretty embarrassing now), and he is for real. I do think he can be a Cup champion someday. I'm still not sure about him winning it this year as he has never been in the thick of a title battle before (though I do expect him to at least contend for it this year), but I really do think he absolutely is capable of winning at least one at some point in his career. He has a great thing going with this Penske team. Looking at Logano's career arc, it is actually reminding me a bit of how Bobby Labonte became a championship caliber driver in the late 90s. He started out pretty mediocre with Bill Davis (though it's hard to knock him for that since Bill Davis was a horrible owner), but once he switched to JGR, he started tearing it up. So if Logano keeps up with the "Labonte Arc" (just hopefully without the brutal dropoff that Bobby went through in the end), then I fully expect him to consistently be a top five driver in Cup within the next year or two, and to eventually win a championship. At this rate, it looks like he'll easily do that. And something about Ricky Stenhouse that kind of ties in with Logano: Perhaps Stenhouse needs a change of scenery like Logano did to become competitive. Maybe he's just not fitting in with Roush's team model. Maybe if he were to go somewhere else (though right now I have no idea where), he would have a Logano type career resurgence. 373. BON GORDON posted: 04.27.2014 - 3:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) CJS3827 post 337, I was thinking the exact same thing as the race finished up last night. 2010 came to mind, not only the Richmond race where Gordon dominated just to lose it near the end to Kyle Busch on a restart but how close he got to victory lane 4 or 5 times that season. His start to the season is better than in 2010 but I hope he can win. I think Jeff will win a 2-3 races this year. Talladega is a great track to do that. However, over the last couple years Gordon doesn't seem to take as many risks at that track like he used to. He runs good all race and drops at the end or just rides in 10th-20th. I think this year is slightly different though. I think he'll be more aggressive and if he avoids the BIG wreck(s) he will win. With the importance of winning I believe there will be a huge surprise winner. All the big names will wreck each other out trying to win. 374. c2 posted: 04.27.2014 - 3:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It's reported that Ambrose was punched after he punched Mears,probably by a Germain crew member defending Mears. I won't comment on what I think will happen Tuesday, but Ambrose and Mears won't ever be in more competitive rides than they are in now and this will solidify it. 375. Mike1993 posted: 04.27.2014 - 3:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I like the tensity Ambrose and Mears showed after the race, they were mad at each other even battling for a mediocre finish. I love it. Mears has done great job helping make that #13 GEICO car competitive. And Ambrose is a solid short track driver and great road course ringer. Both will in my opinion be in cup rides for several more years. Again love the passion those two should after the race its what NASCAR needs more of 376. Evan W. posted: 04.27.2014 - 4:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That was a hard pill to swallow last night, I really felt like Gordon could win this race but he had a long run car that could not get the horses he needed at the end of that race. Keselowski was driving pretty aggresive and when Kenseth, Junior, and Gordon and Keselwoski got locked together in racing one another it made it easy for Logano to close and pass them all, Kyle Busch was coming if he had three more laps, so Logano winning cans his Richmond win streak if I am not mistaken. Keselowski was uspet with Kenseth after the race because he thought that he(Kenseth) cut him off, but it is for the race win, I don't see by the replay any contact from Kenseth. I still think he's a clean racer, he'll get aggressive sometimes. Keselowski got bogged down and could not complete the pass and then when Brad stuck his nose in there, Gordon had to check up and eventually he got by him. but Logano had already sealed it. The finish was pretty good at least. There was a fight between Ambrose and Casey Mears where a punch was landed. Mears grabbed Ambrose and Marcos did not want any part of that and then Ambrose punched Mears and seemed to lay him out. I don't think I have ever seen that before, not even on live TV because I was not even around when the 1979 Daytona 500 fist fight even aired, I have only seen the fight on old reruns of the classic or old highlight reels. Closing:It was a sick night. But a wild one nonetheless at the short track and we need to see more of this. There were a great deal of tire failures last night and a lot of guys were blowing tires and the tires were ripping fuel lines and catching the axles of fire. Some drivers kept trying to stay out with the flaming tires but they eventually had to come in. Jimmie Johnson did not even chance it when he had a problem but the tires STILL were a persistent problem. The Ambrose-Mears incident will be something talked about for a while over the years, the two may not be in very competitive rides but the competitive nature of the drivers comes out and I think that all drivers still want to slug tneir competitors especially after one thinks that the other did him in or something has gone wrong. I hope NASCAR does not punish the either of them too bad, fine them or something but don't take away from that, that was some entertainment. 377. Evan W. posted: 04.27.2014 - 5:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Joey Logano has been doing very well for Penske and I am glad that he away from JGR which was a team that was doing him no favors being stuck behind Denny Hamlin and Kyle Busch. When Logano came along, Kyle Busch pretty much got the best of what Joe Gibbs Racing had to offer, resources were geared towards the 18 and making it competitive after Bobby Labonte just did not have it anymore and throwing Yeley to the wolves, even in 2008 when Tony Stewart's contract situation was brewing, I already knew Tony Stewart was headed elsewhere because Kyle Busch was ripping the circuit apart and Tony was running okay but impressive in Toyotas which he clearly was not pleased with, but only needed NASCAR to gift him in a win at Talladega over Regan Smith's yellow line pass to call the season a success. Back to Logano, he gets thrown to the wolves at JGR and has some success but not enough to back up the "Best Thing Since Sliced Bread" moniker thrust upon him by Randy Lajoie. All that attention and hype really got to him, I believe because he really felt he was better than his teammates and that turned them off to him, but Hamlin and Busch are both pretty tempestuos guys who are pretty intense competitors. It just was not a good environment for Logano to thrive. Team Penske was a good fit for him, Penske needed someone who had decent character to go with Brad and Brad even pushed for Penske to hire him and he did, which i thought was a wise move. Penske had it with Allmendinger's drug test results and Kurt Busch's temper, Logano was a breath of fresh air for that team. Logano is going to be good to win a bunch of races and eventually a championship. Now he's with a team and has a teammate that can bring the talent that he still has out of him. 378. The Long Shot posted: 04.27.2014 - 5:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It's been interesting to witness this board's overall opinion on Logano change over my one year-long tenure here. When I arrived, Logano was borderline hated by some on here (mainly for the Hamlin incident from earlier in the year) and disliked by most. Now, people are calling him one of the best drivers in the sport today. While I'm not sure I'd go quite that far (Penske Racing has been by far and wide the strongest team in the sport this year), he's definitely placed himself in that upper echelon of drivers, and at this point, he may be the championship favorite. As someone who has been a fan of his since 2009, I'm glad that I stuck with him throughout all the negative results, and I'm happy that he's finally shed his "bust" label and is starting to live up to all the "sliced bread" hype. 379. jabber1990 posted: 04.27.2014 - 7:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I do think he can be a Cup champion someday." in 2009 or 2010 NASCAR.com published an article saying that Logano will be the 2015 Champion unfortunately he won it because there was basically a monopoly of teams, I don't remember if they were all 1 team or if all 4 makes had 1 team each they all bent over and GAVE him the title oh and there was a 43 car chase whats sad is how accurate that very insulting article was lets hope they are right about Logano getting his first title in 2015! 380. Destroyahirismix666 posted: 04.27.2014 - 8:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Oh God, I remeber that article! I also remeber laughing it off and thinking that it was just a parody and NASCAR would never fall that low. ...I feel like a part of myself just died inside, seeing the similarities... 381. JG24FanForever posted: 04.27.2014 - 8:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Joey Logano could become the third youngest Cup series Champion if he wins it this year. Too bad this seasons Chase is going to reward 'ultimate luck' more than anything. However, those with the greatest mental toughness will be the real challengers in the Chase. This was another great race from Jeff Gordon, even if he didn't win. Leading the most laps and finishing 2nd is almost as good as it gets, and he did it from 25th on the grid. Gordon has 36 Top 15 finishes in the last 46 races. How many drivers have led the points standings in there 22nd second season or beyond? Only counting full seasons. Richard Petty led in his 20th full season in 1979. Mark Martin led in 21st full time season in 2009. I mentioned in an earlier comment that Gordon had reached 30 short-track Top 2 finishes. Well, I should have mentioned he was the first driver since he began his rookie season, in 1993, to reach 30+. This was Gordon's 7th second place finish at Richmond, and his 18th Top 4 finish there too. He became only the second driver ever to crack 1500 laps led at the 'new Richmond',putting his total up to 1637. Even though he only has two wins, Gordon is clearly one of the best ever at Richmond. 382. JG24FanForever posted: 04.27.2014 - 8:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) *How many drivers have led the points standings in there 22nd season or beyond? 383. 1995 Subaru WRX STi posted: 04.27.2014 - 9:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Joey needed too ge away from JGR (Kyle and Hamlin really, not the whole organization) in order too succeed. He was rushed into Cup WAY too soon and fell flat on his face. But i will say Joey shoke the "bust" label when he won Pocono in 2012 (i don't care that he put the bumper too Mark Martin). I think we can give Brad some credit because he wanted Joey on his team. Joey "broke the ice" when he won at MIS last year. Now i think the skies the limit for him, got a good teammate (when he wants too be), a good owner and the proper resources. However i will not say he is a championship threat. Why? Hasn't lost one yet, in fact he has come close too winning one yet. However i will say he is getting there. I do see a championship in his future if he keeps up his pace. NASCAR has a bright future with Joey, Larson and C.Elliot around. 384. Spannerhead29 posted: 04.27.2014 - 9:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Larson is the first driver since Ricky Stenhouse Jr. (Atlanta 2013) to not lead a lap after winning the pole. 385. cjs3872 posted: 04.27.2014 - 9:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) At what point, JG24FF? I ask that because we all know that Bobby Allison led the points standings in 1988 after his Daytona 500 win, and that was his 24th season, at least. And I think Richard Petty led the standings at some point in 1980, which was his 22nd season. And Cale led it in 1983 and '84 after his Daytona 500 wins, and he was likely beyond the 20-year mark, as well. So how far into a season would you quantify that point? And jabber1990, you mention about NASCAR.com predicting that Joey Logano would be the champion in 2015 (and stated that you hoped that prediction was right). But the way he's running this year, who's to say he won't be the champion in 2014, one year prior to that? However, with how the champion will be decided this season, it won't be a true test of a champion anyway, no matter who wins it. And as for JG24FF's point about Jeff Gordon being a dominant factor at Richmond without being able to find their way into victory lane, there have been other drivers about whom that can be said at other track. To me, the ultimate case of that was Buddy Baker at Daytona, because he was one of the most dominant drivers ever at Daytona, but for two decades, he couldn't win no matter what he did. Jimmie Johnson's got something like that going at Michigan, because no matter how dominant he is there, he can't unlock the key to victory lane. It's also interesting that both of Jeff Gordon's wins at Richmond have come with some level of controversy as it regards the rulebook. We all know what happened in the fall race there in 2000 when he won, but there was also a mild controversy regarding his win in the spring race there in 1996, because his car was too low in post-race inspection, although two other cars that finished in the top five, including runner-up Dale Jarrett, were also guilty of the same infraction. And by the way, no penalties at all were levied against any of the teams caught too low in that spring race at Richmond in 1996, including both Gordon and Jarrett. 386. cjs3872 posted: 04.27.2014 - 9:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 1995 Subaru, there have been a number of drivers that won a championship before they lost one, including Dale Earnhardt, Terry Labonte (who never lost one when he got into contention), Jeff Gordon, Tony Stewart (he did finish second the year before his first title, but was never in contention for the title that year), Matt Kenseth, Kurt Busch, and most recently, Brad Keselowski. So I don't buy that argument that a driver has to lose a championship before he can win one. Some have to lose one before they win one, but others can win one before they lose one. 387. RCRandPenskeGuy posted: 04.27.2014 - 10:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) To win races, you not only need good equipment but you also need good chemistry with your team members. I don't think Joey had good chemistry at all when he drove for JGR when you consider they rushed him into the #20 Cup car for 2009 and put him in a situation where he was expected to fill the shoes of Tony Stewart at age 18. Also, I don't think he got along well with Busch (he doesn't seem to talk about Joey all that much) and Hamlin (their 2013 feud once they weren't teammates anymore says everything). Brad on the other hand (recent personality issues aside), believed in him and lobbied for him to be his teammate, which is what I think helped Joey the most. Knowing someone believed in him like that, and not having high expectations due to his JGR stint (I myself predicted he'd be Brad's wingman and nothing more) provided no pressure for him and that allowed him to "reinvent" himself, so to say. 388. jabber1990 posted: 04.27.2014 - 10:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "However i will not say he is a championship threat. Why? Hasn't lost one yet, in fact he has come close too winning one yet. However i will say he is getting there. I do see a championship in his future if he keeps up his pace." when did Brad lose his Championship? "Kyle Larson is the first driver since Ricky Stenhouse Jr. (Atlanta 2013) to not lead a lap after winning the pole." in Larsons defense 1) he didn't actually win it 2) Boywer kind of had other plans 389. WinstonCup4Ever posted: 04.27.2014 - 11:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Just saw the race today on my VHS since I was at prom last night - it was held on a boat on the St. Croix River between Stillwater, MN and Hudson, WI. Seeing how hard Marcos can punch, I wouldn't be surprised if Casey Mears had been knocked out cold. Also, congrats to Joey Logano on earning another win this season. Hope this upcoming Talladega race weekend produces exciting between ARCA, Nationwide, and Cup. Also, shout out to FOX for becoming the first broadcast network to show a major racing league's qualifying session on over the air TV other than qualifying for a league's most prestigious event. The Daytona 500 with CBS, FOX, and NBC for the Sprint Cup Series and the Indianapolis 500 with ABC for the Verizon Indycar Series. Plus CBS's coverage of the Duels as well. 390. TS1420 posted: 04.27.2014 - 11:52 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) "Just saw the race today on my VHS" Wait... People still use VHS tapes? 391. Watto posted: 04.28.2014 - 6:17 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) For those questioning if Roush is even putting an effort into the 17, I think that's a questionable angle. Make no mistake about it, Greg Biffle & Carl Edwards are phenomenal drivers for a team that can be very hot and cold. Carl's put together a consistent season so far, but his cars are clearly lacking some speed. It's been unspectacular outside of Bristol where Stenhouse finished 2nd to him. Coming into Richmond, Carl's last 3 finishes were 13th, 14th, and 13th. Biffle has also been unspectacular compared to previous years. Factor in the fact that Mike Kelley was never a Cup crew chief before this year, and that could be a huge problem for that 17 team. Some solid Nationwide crew chiefs never go on to achieve much success in Cup. For those that do, there's usually a learning curve. The 17's performance has certainly been surprising to say the least but Roush is not on the top of their game right now. The Mike Kelley move sounded good on paper, but they'll end up getting someone else in there if we get past the halfway point in the season and the 17 is still running like crap. 392. The Long Shot posted: 04.28.2014 - 11:10 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Just saw the race today on my VHS since I was at prom last night - it was held on a boat on the St. Croix River between Stillwater, MN and Hudson, WI." Wow, that's weird...I was literally just 10 miles away from Stillwater on Saturday night (that's where my band concert took place). I keep forgetting how close some of us live to each other. "Wait... People still use VHS tapes?" I do, although I haven't recorded any races in a while. 393. 1995 Subaru WRX STi posted: 04.28.2014 - 11:31 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "1995 Subaru, there have been a number of drivers that won a championship before they lost one, including Dale Earnhardt, Terry Labonte (who never lost one when he got into contention), Jeff Gordon, Tony Stewart (he did finish second the year before his first title, but was never in contention for the title that year), Matt Kenseth, Kurt Busch, and most recently, Brad Keselowski. So I don't buy that argument that a driver has to lose a championship before he can win one. Some have to lose one before they win one, but others can win one before they lose one." I concidered finish top 5 in points a "legit championship threat." Joey hasn't done that (yet). Points places 2-5 at seasons end mean (too me) that if a few things have changed or you just win instead of finishing 3rd, you could have won the championship. 6-10 points places mean (again too me) that your a "championship contender." Few more things need too go your way too be a "threat" too which can lead you too be a "threat" for a championship. Joey is on his way, don't get me wrong but right now Joey is a "contender." But guys have gone from "contender" too "champion" in no time. So i'm not painting Joey with a small brush. Heavens know, it has happened before. 394. Iota Toyota posted: 04.28.2014 - 3:33 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Chase Elliott will do to Jimmie Johnson what Johnson did to Gordon- make him look real bad lol. I think this is the first time in the past decade Gordon has looked better then Johnson if you don't count the 2007 regular season. 395. cjs3872 posted: 04.28.2014 - 4:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) But 1995 Subaru, even based on your logic, Dale, Sr., Jeff Gordon, and Brad Keselowski went from nowhere straight to the championship. Granted, Dale, Sr. was injured in 1979 and likely may have finished in the top 5 if not for the races he missed (he finished seventh or eighth, anyway), but they had never finished in the top five before claiming the title. And even Kurt Busch and Tony Stewart were never actually championship contenders when they had their top 5 points finishes before grabbing their titles. Stewart rallied to finish second in 2001, mainly because Sterling Marlin and both of Robert Yates' drivers, Dale Jarrett and Ricky Rudd, faded, and Busch was the most dominant driver at the end of 2002, rocketing from 12th to third at the end of the season, and Brad K. never had a good points finish before his 2012 championship season, so even that theory has bullet holes. And every generation has had a changing of the guard where a perennial champion gets toppled and never wins the crown back again. 1980 and 1995 were such examples, so it figures that such a changing of the guard seems due to happen. When Dale, Sr. first won the title in 1980, the year after Richard's seventh title, Petty could never get the title back, and the same is true regarding Jeff Gordon's first title in 1995, with Dale, Sr. never winning back the title again, and even 2002, when Tony Stewart got his first title, he won it the year after Jeff Gordon's fourth title, and Gordon has never gotten the championship back and Jimmie Johnson has added six of his own since. I wonder if this is the time someone dethrones this generation's perennial champion, who in turn never gets the title back, and I wonder if Logano's that driver. He certainly looks capable of being that driver to this point this season, but there's a LOOOONG way to go yet, and I don't think Johnson's through. The real answer to this won't come until Logano's under the pressure cooker, but even if he does win the title, because of how the championship is going to be decided, how much legitimacy will it have, no matter who wins it. 396. cjs3872 posted: 04.28.2014 - 4:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yes TS1420, people still use VHS recorders and tapes. In fact, I still use those. 397. Daniel posted: 04.28.2014 - 4:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 47 entered at Talladega: -Trevor Bayne in the #21 -Terry Labonte in the #32 -Brian Scott in the #33 -Eric McClure in the #35 -J.J. Yeley in the #44 -Michael Waltrip in the #66 -Joe Nemechek in the #87 398. joey2448 posted: 04.28.2014 - 6:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) So Casey Mears made an appearance on NASCAR Race Hub today, black eye and all... 399. murb posted: 04.28.2014 - 6:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wow, did he really have a black eye? 400. luigistarted06 posted: 04.28.2014 - 6:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm really interested to see how qualifying goes this week. A driver in the top 30 in owner points could very well go home if enough low owner points cars just so happen to catch the right draft. It's going to be a lottery 401. Sarf52 posted: 04.28.2014 - 9:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hope y'all are ready for the #98 DogeCoin car next week! Josh Wise and Phil Parsons are rocking the most interesting sponsor in recent memory...Let's hope it goes to victory lane! 402. cjs3872 posted: 04.28.2014 - 11:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bad news. It appears that the tornadoes that have been affecting the southeast, including Arkansas and Oklahoma yesterday, and Mississippi earlier today, are now in Alabama, and one of them may be headed squarely for Talladega. Remember that when those monster tornadoes hit Alabama two years ago, that they occurred just before that year's spring race at Talladega, though if I remember right, Talladega itself was not affected by those storms. But right now, there may be a tornado headed directly toward Talladega, and these storms are projected to hit the Carolinas tomorrow, and possibly the mid-Atlantic region on Wednesday. 403. joey2448 posted: 04.29.2014 - 12:58 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Oh yeah, murb, Mears had a shiner! But it seems him and Ambrose talked on the phone and settled it. Can someone explain the DogeCoin sponsor for Josh Wise this week? I remember reading about it a few weeks ago, but I didn't quite grasp what exactly it was, and how the 98 team managed to secure the sponsorship. 404. NicoRosbergFan posted: 04.29.2014 - 7:38 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Happy birthday to NASCAR legend Dale Earnhardt! 405. NicoRosbergFan posted: 04.29.2014 - 7:39 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Happy birthday to NASCAR legend Larry Frank! 406. Sarf52 posted: 04.29.2014 - 10:36 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @403 NASCAR fans on Reddit were so impressed with Josh Wise's driving in a blank, underfunded #98, that they launched a movement to raise enough online currency in order to sponsor the car. Fans raised 500,000 "DogeCoin"s, a form of online currency, equivalent to roughly the amount of US dollars to sponsor a NASCAR Sprint Cup car. They held a competition to design the car advertising DogeCoin's, and th winning design will be featured on the car this weekend at 'Dega 407. Zackary Shawn posted: 04.29.2014 - 12:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well it looks like most of the Eastern part of my state (Alabama) managed to dodge the really severe weather including Auburn, Talladega, and the Birmingham metropolitan area. Unfortunately, the western part of the state wasn't as lucky including one confirmed fatality in Tuscaloosa, which was also ravaged by a tornado three years ago. 408. cjs3872 posted: 04.29.2014 - 2:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Thanks for correcting me, Shawn. Those mega-tornadoes in the southeast happened three years ago (almost to the day), not two as I had stated. Tennessee, including Knoxville, was also under the gun late last night, and Alabama, Georgia, and the Carolinas may be under the gun tonight. The Mid-Atlantic region, where I happen to live, may be under the gun on Wednesday. Hueytown, the home of the Allisons, was especially under the gun, though the worst of it was just east of there. 409. murb posted: 04.29.2014 - 5:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Penske is expected to announce that JPM will drive a third Penske Cup car in select races this year, including the Brickyard 400 and possibly Sonoma. 410. Spen posted: 04.29.2014 - 6:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Cjs: Richard never led the point standings in 1980 (Earnhardt led from Daytona onward). But he did have the lead after winning the '81 500. Keselowski did have a period during the 2011 chase where he really looked like a serious darkhorse candidate (even beating Johnson in the final standings), so I'd count him as a real contender that season. Earnhardt and Gordon are the only (modern) drivers who really never contended before winning one. 411. NicoRosbergFan posted: 04.29.2014 - 7:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ^Alan Kulwicki? Benny Parsons? Matt Kenseth? Had five wins, but was nowhere near a title contender in 2002. 412. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 04.29.2014 - 8:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kurt Busch completed his refresher program at Indy today topping out at 220.8 mph, so it looks like he's set to go for the double. 413. David posted: 04.29.2014 - 9:03 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Matt Kenseth? Had five wins, but was nowhere near a title contender in 2002." Neither was anyone else, but someone had to win. 414. DaleSrFanForever posted: 04.29.2014 - 9:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Just realized something. Today would have been Dale's 63rd birthday. Well, I knew that. But his 63rd career win was the 1994 Fall Rockingham race which he won and clinched his 7th championship. What a way to tie the King's unbreakable championship record, with a walk off win. So hooray for #63! 415. DB1995 posted: 04.29.2014 - 10:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I feel ashamed, someone posted a picture on facebook of Dale earnhardt with no beard and i thought it was Tony Romo, I feel like shooting myself in the face... 416. jabber1990 posted: 04.29.2014 - 10:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Those mega-tornadoes in the southeast happened three years ago (almost to the day), not two as I had stated." I don't remember for sure but I believe that those are the same storms that hit the St. Louis Airport My mother's company had a good amount of employees there on their way to Vegas for a big conference, sorry about the ramble, it just seemed relevant. A lot kind of happened to me in 2011 which is odd because 2009-2011 all ran together for me 417. jabber1990 posted: 04.29.2014 - 10:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I feel ashamed, someone posted a picture on facebook of Dale earnhardt with no beard and i thought it was Tony Romo, I feel like shooting myself in the face.." during the Nationwide race at Daytona the camera focused on Richard Childress. my mom was all "oh look its Bono!" 418. DB1995 posted: 04.30.2014 - 12:30 am Rate this comment: (1) (1) Is anyone watching the NBA playoffs?, The Memphis OKC series is insane 4 out of 5 game went to OT 419. Anonymous posted: 04.30.2014 - 2:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) In other news: Montoya is coming back for 2 races. Michigan (June) and the Brickyard driving the Penske 12. 420. cjs3872 posted: 04.30.2014 - 2:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That's great to hear, Anonymous (#419). I say that because races such as the Brickyard 400 are the type that drivers from other disciplines of the sport should at least try to run. Now I know Montoya has seven years f experience in NASCAR's highest series, but since he's back in IndyCars now, it's nice to see Penske bring a driver from another discipline of the sport to run one of NASCAR's biggest events, although it's not the first time Penske's done that. After all, when Penske first tried NASCAR in the 1970s with the AMC Matador, Mark Donohue was his primary driver in 1972 and they finally won in 1973 at Riverside. Gary Bettenhausen drove Penske's Matador in 1974 until his sprint car crash, which left him effectively without the use of one of his arms, and it was at that point that Penske hired Bobby Allison, who drove for him at Indy in 1973, to drive his stock car. I'd also like to see Chip Ganassi enter an extra car for on of his IndyCar drivers, one of whom, Scott Dixon, has won everything there is to win in IndyCar racing. And not just for the Brickyard 400, but also for the Daytona 500, because that was once a race where drivers from many disciplines of the sport competed in. I single out Penske and Ganassi not only because they compete in both NSCAR and IndyCar racing (Ganassi also competes in sports car racing), but also because both have ample room under NASCAR's 4-car per team limit. I'd also like to see Helio in the Daytona 500 and/or the Brickyard 400. I would have liked to have seen Penske do this for Al Unser, Jr. when he drove for Penske, because he seemed to have loved his time in the NASCAR garage area during his one NASCAR start (the 1993 Daytona 500), not to mention the fact that he seemed to enjoy driving those cars and genuinely wanted to try it again, but never got the chance to. (He was at the inaugural Brickyard 400 in 1994, and even seemed to predict what might happen when he said that Indy was a magical place.) 421. Anonymous posted: 04.30.2014 - 3:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #420 Penske probably could run the 12 in a few more races than just the 4 it's getting (2 for Montoya and 2 for Ryan Blaney), but I think this is a good move on Penske's part. Ganassi running another car would be nice, but what car number would they use? 01? 02? 8? Dylan Kwasniewski will likely move to cup eventually, and I could see him using one of those numbers if Larson and McMurray stay with the team. 422. RCRandPenskeGuy posted: 04.30.2014 - 11:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I guess you can differentiate being within striking distance and being in straight up contention for the championship. Kurt Busch was in striking distance in 2002 before he won his in 2004, and Jimmie Johnson was in striking distance as a rookie in '02, '03, and was in straight up contention in '04 and '05. Brad Keselowski was in striking distance in 2011, though by the Fall Texas race, he wasn't close enough to the points leader to feel comfortable relying on strength alone and so he and the team tried throwing hail marys in the last 3 races to try and get ahead using strategy, and it didn't work out for them in any of those races. Now, when I say "striking distance", it means the driver had a chance at the title that year, but they weren't immediately thought of. 423. b4il3y posted: 05.01.2014 - 3:47 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) They'll let this go on.. until someone get killed. Sorry, I'm not trying to be a downer, but Hamlin got hurt real bad, and someone might be really, really hurt with all this going on. When it happens, well, I'm sorry. 424. cjs3872 posted: 05.01.2014 - 9:10 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Anonymous (#421), I was referring to Ganassi running an extra car for one of his non-NASCAR drivers, like Scott Dixon or Charlie Kimball, for one of big races, such as the Daytona 500 or Brickyard 400, but not necessarily a full-time car. As for what car number he'd use, the #39 is a possibility, since he's used that before and it's available again, since what was the 39 at SHR is now the #4. Another one that he could use, which you mentioned, is the #8. And if Circle Sport goes away, he could bring the #40, which Circle Sport now runs, back to his organization. There are others, of course, but I would say that 8, 39, and 40, if he can get it back, are the likeliest choices of car number. 425. cjs3872 posted: 05.01.2014 - 9:27 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Actually RCRandPenskeGuy, Jimmie Johnson was more than within striking distance in 2002. He actually went into the fall race at Talladega that year as the points leader, but his chances that day effectively ended before the race began as a result of that bizarre pre-race incident when Mark Martin swerved into him. (It wouldn't have mattered anyway because that may have been the worst day ever for Hendrick's engine department, as every car with a Hendrick engine failed in that race.) But he actually held the points lead late in his rookie season, the closest any rookie has ever come to the title. But in 2003, nobody was within striking distance of Matt Kenseth, as he dominated the points all season long. Don't be misled by the relatively small margin of victory, because they were experimenting late in the season with a lead that grew to 400+ points at one time, and were even over 200 points ahead in the last race when they blew an engine early and finished last (they had clinched at Rockingham in the next-to-last race of that season). And Kurt Busch was not in striking distance in 2002. Sure, he rallied to finish third in points, but with about six or eight races remaining, he was 12th in the standings before he began that rush. That's like saying that Davey Allison was within striking distance in 1991 when he rallied late to briefly take second place entering the final race when he was never in contention for the title at any point during that season, or when Harry Gant made his late-season rally that same year to finish fourth, because he was never a championship contender at any time that season, either. 426. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.01.2014 - 10:27 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Johnson may have officially been closer in 2002, but I'd argue overall Dick Hutcherson was closer in 1965. In reality Bill Rexford was a rookie in 1950. 427. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.01.2014 - 10:27 am Rate this comment: (3) (0) Twenty years ago today, we lost the legendary Ayrton Senna. 428. Sean posted: 05.01.2014 - 2:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Charlie Kimball" Nah. Last year was a fluke. In fact, I would say he's on the hotseat despite bringing his own personal sponsorship. Ganassi has a multi-year development deal for Sage Karam, which must be making Kanaan, Briscoe, and Kimball ALL feeling a little nervous at the moment. Kanaan should be fine now that Indy, Pocono, and Fontana have double points although I don't really ever see him winning a road/street course race again. Briscoe was supposedly signed to a multi-year deal, although I don't really understand why. That leaves Kimball, who I think is in a contract year and is last in points in a Ganassi car... I know he's had engine issues, but he's been a complete non-factor this year, back to the same way he was in 2011 and 2012. He would never have been at Ganassi in the first place if he didn't have sponsorship from NovoLog FlexPen, and if Ganassi can find replacement sponsorship from Karam (and Karam has some with Comfort Revolutions) I think Kimball is out... It's very, very interesting that Ganassi put both Karam and Larson on his 24 Hours of Daytona teams and left Kimball off even though Kimball was on the winning team last year. I like Kimball a lot - more than any of Ganassi's other drivers for sure - but the potential he showed last year seems to have faded to nothing. If he was qualifying or practicing quickly and having bad luck, that would be one thing, but he hasn't been doing that either. Ideally, I'd like to see Kimball drop to a mid-tier team like KV Racing replacing a worse ride-buyer like Sebastian Saavedra with Karam (or better yet, Josef Newgarden) going to Ganassi. Let's not recycle retreads... Given how horrible Dario Franchitti was in Cup, Kimball would certainly be worse. I mean, I'm not sure I'd even take him historically over Christian Fittipaldi or Michel Jourdain or Max Papis and we saw how awful their switches were... I'd love to see Dixon or Karam get a Daytona 500 shot, but the others? Not so much. I don't really think Castroneves has it anymore either; even if he did lead the points standings for most of last season he was rarely a threat in the actual races, and looks worse this year... 429. SpeedWorld97 posted: 05.01.2014 - 3:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Twenty years ago today, we lost the legendary Ayrton Senna." Glad someone else pointed that out. You know, a lot of times we make racing driver comparisons from drivers of different disciplines, and I have always seen Senna as being like Dale Earnhardt. In fact, there are many similarities that I can think of between them: - Both drivers were huge idols in their respective native countries (Senna was a hero in Brazil and Earnhardt was probably one of the most popular American driver of his time). - Both started out their racing careers racing for very small, underfunded teams and were able to overacheive in them (Earnhardt with Rod Ousterland and Senna with Tolemann). Earnhardt won some races with Ousterland (including the 1980 Championship) and Senna had some incredible runs with Tolemann as well as Lotus (1984 Monaco and 1985 Portugal come to mind). - Both spent a huge portion of their career racing for one team with one sponsor (Senna with Marlboro/McLaren and Earnhardt with GM Goodwrench/RCR). - Both had a very aggressive driving stle, though they used that to their advantage in winning many races and championships. - Although both were some of the greatest racing drivers of all time, both do not hold records for the most wins in each of their respective series (Earnhardt with 76 victories and Senna with 41). - Both had to wait large portions of their respective careers before they could win the biggest races to them (Senna badly wanted to win in Interlagos and Earnhardt at the Daytona 500). Though Brazil isn't the biggest race on the F1 calendar (I would say Monaco is), Senna wanted to win at his home race in Brazil more than anywhere else. - Both came close to winning their respecitve championships in 1989, only to suffer huge setbacks in the final races (Senna at Suzuka and Earnhardt at North Wilkesboro). But both recovered in 1991 to win their respective championships (it was Senna's last too). - Before each of their deaths, their parformance began to drop considerably (Senna struggled mightily in the beginning of 1994 with his new Williams ride and Earnhardt from about 1997-1999). Around the time of each of their deaths, they each desperately wanted to rejuvinate their respective careers (Earnhardt was geared to win a record eighth NASCAR championship in 2001). - Lastly, each of their deaths have left lasting impacts on both F1 and NASCAR. Since each of their deaths, F1 and NASCAR hasn't had a fatal accident in the top tier series of each. Also, both of their deaths have led to safety innovations in each series (wheel tethers in F1 and the HANS device in NASCAR). There are probably many more that I can't think of at the moment, but these ones stand out to me. 430. murb posted: 05.01.2014 - 4:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I actually think Dixon could be pretty decent if he was given a shot in a Cup car. He's run IROC before, and he also did that seat swap with Jamie McMurray a couple years ago, so he's not a complete outsider to full body stock cars. I too would love to see him get a shot in a third Ganassi car at either the Daytona 500, or as a true "ringer" at one of the road courses. 431. luigistarted06 posted: 05.01.2014 - 4:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think above all else, Id like to see Dixon at the Brickyard 400 432. 1995 Subaru WRX STi posted: 05.01.2014 - 6:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Before each of their deaths, their parformance began to drop considerably (Senna struggled mightily in the beginning of 1994 with his new Williams ride and Earnhardt from about 1997-1999). Around the time of each of their deaths, they each desperately wanted to rejuvinate their respective careers (Earnhardt was geared to win a record eighth NASCAR championship in 2001)." When Senna went to Williams in 1994, the FIA made new rules that banned active suspension and some other stuff from the year before. Senna found the Williams hard too drive. Although he started from the pole in each of his 4 starts that year, Senna either spun off or crashed. Senna was also 34 at the time, so while not past his F1 driving prime he didn't have much longer. I think Senna would have gotten 1-2 more titles before he stopped driving. Oh and here is alittle tid bit: Senna almost went too CART in 1993 (i think) but decided too stay with F1. If Senna went too CART, i believe he would have been successful on ovals. 433. Dave #38 Fan-Go Gilliland! posted: 05.01.2014 - 10:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Oh and here is alittle tid bit: Senna almost went too CART in 1993 (i think) but decided too stay with F1. If Senna went too CART, i believe he would have been successful on ovals." I think it was 1994, before he eventually signed with Williams. He actually tested a CART car for Penske. Fellow Brazilian Emerson Fittipaldi set up the test with Roger Penske. We all know what Nigel Mansell was able to accomplish in CART with good equipment, driving for Penske I think Senna could have been a championship contending driver in IndyCar. 434. murb posted: 05.02.2014 - 3:15 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) Tommy Joe Martins and Jeffrey Earnhardt were 1-2 in NNS Happy Hour at Talladega. If this is a sign of things to come, then we are in for a wild weekend. 435. joey2448 posted: 05.02.2014 - 3:57 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) When I think of the Earnhardt-Senna comparisons, I think the biggest thing for me was that they were both pure racing drivers. They raced to win and nothing else. Money, garage politics and fame meant nothing to them (well, maybe money meant something, since that was how they got by in life, but you get what I'm saying). One of my favorite racing quotes came from Senna when he said once, "By being a racing driver you are under risk all the time. By being a racing driver means you are racing with other people. And if you no longer go for a gap that exists, you are no longer a racing driver, because we are competing to win. And the main motivation to all of us is to compete for victory, it's not to come 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th. I race to win as long as I feel it's possible. Sometimes you get it wrong? Sure, it's impossible to get it right all the time. But I race designed to win, as long as I feel I'm doing it right." 436. Anonymous posted: 05.02.2014 - 2:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Marcos Ambrose loses $25,000 and a tire 437. 1995 Subaru WRX STi posted: 05.02.2014 - 2:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I think it was 1994, before he eventually signed with Williams. He actually tested a CART car for Penske. Fellow Brazilian Emerson Fittipaldi set up the test with Roger Penske. We all know what Nigel Mansell was able to accomplish in CART with good equipment, driving for Penske I think Senna could have been a championship contending driver in IndyCar." I thought it was either 1993 or 1994. But i agree, Senna would have been very good in CART at the time. 438. DB1995 posted: 05.02.2014 - 7:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) and Kyle Larson wrecks Tanner Berryhill again, In a stupid move in qualifying. 439. 23andJoe posted: 05.02.2014 - 7:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) He did what...when...at /Talladega/...?! ... Big surprises from the first round of NNS quals: all four TriStar and both TMG cars make the cut, as does Jamie Dick. 440. murb posted: 05.02.2014 - 8:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "and Kyle Larson wrecks Tanner Berryhill again, In a stupid move in qualifying." I feel bad that Berryhill got torn up again, but that wasn't Larson's fault. It was just a product of Talladega. Larson just got a huge run and had nowhere to go. It was either keep going and hope that a hole opened up (which is what he did), or slam on the brakes and get wrecked himself. 441. Anthony posted: 11.11.2015 - 7:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) David Reutimann's last race of his Sprint Cup cateer. 442. RaceFanX posted: 04.30.2017 - 5:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This was the first race Logano ever led at Richmond and he won it. 443. Rich posted: 12.08.2020 - 9:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Mike Joy, Larry McReynolds and Darrell Waltrip were the commentators. Steve Byrnes, Matt Yocum and Krista Voda were the pit road reporters. Jeff Hammond was the roving reporter. Chris Myers and Michael Waltrip were in the Hollywood hotel. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Post a comment:* Your comment may not appear immediately - all comments must be approved by the moderator. Name: Comment: