|| *Comments on the 2014 Aaron's 499:* First Page | Previous Page | Next Page | Last Page | View All On One Page View the most recent comment | Post a comment <#post> 1. Debris posted: 05.03.2014 - 3:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) As i expected, wacky qualifying results. Brian Scott on pole wth? Casey Mears 4th... 2. The Long Shot posted: 05.03.2014 - 3:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Danica qualifies 7th and 12th in the same qualifying session? Okay, now she's impressed me. 3. murb posted: 05.03.2014 - 3:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Congrats to Brian Scott on his first career pole. He has a fast car, so I think he's definitely a dark-horse for the race win too. 4. TS1420 posted: 05.03.2014 - 3:50 pm Rate this comment: (4) (2) Well that was, different. I agree with Dale Jr. They should use heat races for qualifying at the three non-Daytona 500 plate races. Too many wacky games being played in this format. 5. joey2448 posted: 05.03.2014 - 4:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I don't know, I thought that was exciting! The differences in speed of the various groups of cars going around the track was a little worrisome, but otherwise it was amusing to see the drivers trying to hook up in the pack at the right time. And the best thing about this new qualifying format compared to single car runs is that the guys that are truly the fastest in the draft will start up front, instead of some complete shock run out of nowhere. I thought the team and manufacture loyalties were really ridiculous, though. In the final 12-car shootout, all the Chevy drivers tried waiting out Carl Edwards, who was the lone Ford, to leave the pits, so they could get out on the track together and leave the Ford by itself. It was a five-minute session, and they wasted nearly three minutes just sitting on pit road waiting for Carl to make a move. It was stupid. I mean, is getting all the Chevy drivers up front really as important as almost wasting a qualifying session? 6. Anonymous posted: 05.03.2014 - 4:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) RCR equipment dominates qualifying... looks like they've done their homework with the restrictor plate package. 7. Daniel posted: 05.03.2014 - 4:36 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) In using fastest 43: #77 Dave Blaney & #87 Joe Nemechek Out using fastest 43: #78 Martin Truex Jr. & #40 Landon Cassill I think this is accurate. 8. DB1995 posted: 05.03.2014 - 4:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) in the second round they had a debris red flag that was turned to caution that wasted over 2 minutes of the session and left only 1 minute for some other cars to make a final run, they didnt even take the green 9. luigistarted06 posted: 05.03.2014 - 5:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Martin Tried Jr and Kasey Kahne both failed post race inspection and will be credited with 42nd and 43rd place starts 10. startandparkfan posted: 05.03.2014 - 6:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) After Yeley's performance in the Nationwide race today, I was hoping for him to qualify. Stinks that McClure DNQed as well, and Blaney could have actually had a finish! Excited for this race! What a good job for Scott, Allmendinger, Mears, Dillon, Patrick, and McDowell. I wouldn't be sad to see any of the top 7 winning this race, as Newman has been somewhat overlooked this season. A big pack of Chevys, then a pack of Fords. The best Toyota, Vickers, starts way back in 18th (after Kahne's time was disallowed). I hope Gibbs engines are not a flop this weekend. 11. startandparkfan posted: 05.03.2014 - 6:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If these lap times were set with the traditional qualifying procedure, it would be as follows. Scott, R. Truex (Wow!), Stenhouse, Menard, Ambrose, Bowyer, Waltrip, Larson, Earnhardt, Whitt, Allmendinger, McMurray, Bowman, Hamlin, Mears, Dillon, Newman, Biffle, Wise, Labonte, Allgaier, Ragan, Blaney, Patrick, Keselowski, McDowell, Almirola, Logano, Gilliland, Nemechek, Harvick, Cassill, McClure, Annett, Vickers, Ku. Busch, Edwards, Ky. Busch, Gordon, Johnson, Kenseth, Yeley, Sorenson, Bayne, Stewart, and then Kahne and Truex, although I'm not really sure where they would be placed and who would DNQ. Interesting to see the difference in the lineup with the traditional system. 12. Scott. B posted: 05.03.2014 - 6:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Brian Scott's first Cup pole comes in what will be his fifth career start in the series. 13. numbah10hatah posted: 05.03.2014 - 7:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) To the back: #18-Kyle Busch (engine change) Kasey Kahne and Martin Truex Jr. should be listed 42nd and 43rd, respectively. 14. RaceFanX posted: 05.03.2014 - 7:22 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) This race will feature one of the most unusual sponsors in NASCAR history as Michael McDowell takes to the track in the #98 Dogecoin Ford. Dogecoin is a humorous digital currency, like Bitcoin but less shady and more of a meme, which supports took note of McDowell's better than expected performance in a few races earlier this season. The group launched a Reddit crowdfunding campaign and raised $55,000 online to buy this one-off sponsorship on the #98 Ford. The group even did had a "pick our paint job" poll to come up with McDowell's black, white, and orange look for this race featuring the titular "Doge," an internet meme picture of the internet of a Shiba Inu dog. It's not Dogecoin's first sports sponsorship. The group previously raised a bunch of money quickly to send the Jamaican Bobsled Team to the Sochi Winter Olympics a few months before this race. 15. RCRandPenskeGuy posted: 05.03.2014 - 7:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Looking forward to see how the cars shuffle around in this one, or how often they will do so. 16. Tyler posted: 05.03.2014 - 7:58 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @ 14, Josh Wise drives the 98, not McDowell LOL 17. epzik8 posted: 05.03.2014 - 9:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Brian Scott on the pole in Cup, wow. 18. RaceFanX posted: 05.03.2014 - 9:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Whoops. Well here's wishing Wise and the Meme Machine good luck tomorrow. 19. murb posted: 05.03.2014 - 9:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "the Meme Machine" lol, That's a great name. Way cooler than the Aaron's "Dream Machine". 20. Woodbridge posted: 05.03.2014 - 10:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ahhhh.... Talladega. My favorite track. Too bad Parker Kligerman's not in this one. If Stewart, Menard, Ambrose, Almirola, or Cassill can't win... I'll be rooting on the #98 Meme Machine. 21. Woodbridge posted: 05.03.2014 - 10:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It's sad to me that it's been a year since Ragan's victory and Front Row Motorsports has barely progressed. I wish they'd get better sponsors and Jenkins would open up the wallet a little more and make these guys week-to-week contenders, not just four times a year. I love it when a new/different team can break into the upper echelon and make an impact, which is why I typically root for SHR/MWR/Furniture Row as well as all the single-car and lower-tier teams. I'd be glad to see Front Row defend their title here. Maybe one more win will help backers realize they're for real and the team can get funding they deserve to be more competitive overall. 22. DH101 posted: 05.03.2014 - 10:45 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) GO MEME MACHINE! Lol Crazy results. I see what JR says and I think, why didn't nascar just do heat races in the first place? Thats exciting. 23. DH101 posted: 05.03.2014 - 10:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sorry for double comment but wanted to add on that heat races would be more exciting than this format for most tracks 24. Scout523 posted: 05.03.2014 - 11:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) What I don't like is the possibility of Brian Scott getting shuffled by another driver and getting caught up in a wreck. Seems to be a common theme for pole sitters at Talladega. I really want him to at least do well. It'd be freaking amazing if he won, but if he got a top five or ten then I'd be happy with that. 25. Spannerhead29 posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:08 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Brian Scott's first career pole, top 5, and top 10 start. 26. Spannerhead29 posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:10 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) Also it's the first time since 2000 that the #33 has won the pole, which was at Talladega, and it's last two wins have also been at this track. 27. We need more Onion posted: 05.04.2014 - 6:48 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @21 What? Jenkins already pumps lots of money into his team and they are progressing steadily. On short tracks they already perform well and recently they picked up some pace on intermediate tracks too. The thing is that now one car is borderline competitive, which comes at the expense of the other 2's speed. It would cost a ton to make both cars weekly contenders, much more than what Jenkins has. Going all out would get him a great car for Ragan, but he will not and should not risk this much, because it all depends on getting a generous sponsor, which is really hard, even harder without having big names in your team. Go Germain and Meme Machine. Or Cassill or Whitt :) 28. 2PenskeFan22 posted: 05.04.2014 - 10:58 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I love this new qualifying format. Its awesome! 29. Destroyahirismix666 posted: 05.04.2014 - 11:20 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) While you guys root for your underdogs (and to be fair, I like underdog wins now and then also), I'll still be pulling for the Hendrick guys, RCR guys, Kurt, and Logano. I have a feeling this will be a pretty clean race. Which is nice, I don't normally have such good feelings. 30. Seagal posted: 05.04.2014 - 12:01 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I think Kenseth is the best plate racer out there right now, but Toyota hasn't been fast this year. I hope this isn't a repeat of Daytona where he's stuck midpack and drops like a rock the moment his car finds fresh air. 31. The Long Shot posted: 05.04.2014 - 12:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) After watching the Nationwide race yesterday and seeing so many small teams make their way to the front, I'm extremely pumped for this race (especially when you add on the fact that these cars can actually push each other for an extended period of time). If the Daytona 500 was any indication of the new Cup plate package, we'll be in for a spectacular show today. 32. numbah10hatah posted: 05.04.2014 - 12:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wow. DW just mentioned the fact that Danica has disappointed people INCLUDING HIMSELF. 33. jabber1990 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I really hope Blake Bobbit wasn't watching the prerace show, they showed the Edwards-Kesoloswki Crash twice or thrice 34. DB1995 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I have recorded that anthem and will play it at the start of every race i ever watch again, that was just perfection plain and simple 35. Seagal posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Denny has some crazy hair going on...also, was that former Miss Sprint Cup Brooke standing with Knaus? Is that why she resigned so suddenly? 36. numbah10hatah posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Can anyone do a command nowadays? Geesh... 37. Anonymous posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Great national anthem, although the euphonium seemed to be overpowering the sousaphone a bit. According to DW, "driver era" caused wrecks at Talladega. 38. The Long Shot posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Comment #37 was me. 39. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I have recorded that anthem and will play it at the start of every race i ever watch again, that was just perfection plain and simple" No kidding. Stick with the instrumentals; military bands preferably. The VMI band did a nice job last week at Richmond too. 40. DB1995 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) I think Chad Knaus is married. I hope she didnt get with him, she was pretty hot 41. cjs3872 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) What races have you been watching, @27, because if anything, Front Row Motorsports has regressed, and regressed badly this year. It's almost as if after they got that win and 1-2 finish at Talladega last year, that they were satisfied with that and lost their determination to want to go after it. And The Long Shot, the reason so many underdog teams found their way up front in the race yesterday was because so many of the major teams in that series were involved in wrecks (and even one of those ended up finishing in the top ten). Since many of those underdog teams were not in those wrecks, they found their way toward the front by attrition alone. And if yesterday's race and the races at Talladega last year are any indication, this race may not be such a good one, by Talladega standards. Now I do expect some of the smaller teams to find their way near the front today, simply because, like yesterday, 20-25 cars are likely to be involved in wrecks, which would drastically thin the field out and allow some of the smaller teams to show up near the front. You take between 50-60% of the starting field effectively out of any race, and guys who don't usually run up front are going to wind up there, based on attrition alone. My strategy for this race would be the same as it usually is for any race at Talladega, and that would be to hang out at the back and wait for the final 75 miles to make a move, because there might only be about 20-25 cars left at that time, and racing against 20 cars is always a better proposition than racing against 35. 42. numbah10hatah posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) To the back: #14 Tony Stewart #7 Michael Annett #66 Michael Waltrip #5 Kasey Kahne (qualifying time disallowed) #78 Martin Truex Jr. (qualifying time disallowed) #18 Kyle Busch (engine change) 43. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wow, lot of cars dropping to the back... 44. numbah10hatah posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Annett and Waltrip adjustments outside impound, Stewart same thing. 45. dennyfan11 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Green Flag! Go go go! 46. numbah10hatah posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:22 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I feel bad for whoever has to run the ticker. 47. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ryan Newman gets shuffled out as Paul Menard leads lap 1. 48. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Three wide already. 49. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Awesome racing already. Love this new plate package this year. 50. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick leading the outside line to the front. 51. numbah10hatah posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Geez Menard...block much? 52. DB1995 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sprint car series lol 53. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:26 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) If this were lap 95, the race would've inexplicably ended. 54. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Danica to the lead. 55. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:26 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Danica goes to the lead much to the happiness of the crowd. 56. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) BoB to the lead. 57. numbah10hatah posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:26 pm Rate this comment: (1) (3) Gordon, why are you helping her? I just lost a little bit of respect for him. 58. Anonymous posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Danica is leading. Anyone wanna talk about PBS? 59. dennyfan11 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 3 wide! 60. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:28 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Gordon leads a lap. 61. WinstonCup4Ever posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I wonder if that bug on that FOX SPORTS camera was trying to tell Danica to "Bug Off" 62. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bold prediction: Danica leads the most laps today. 63. Seagal posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I know Danica is good on these R plate tracks but I'm actually nervous with her leading. She has no experience blocking like this. 64. dennyfan11 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) put on your tinfoil hats NicoRosbergFan! 65. dennyfan11 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Danica has lead the most laps so far! 66. DB1995 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Im very impressed with the racing so far, the intensity from Daytona hasnt worn off and its great 67. numbah10hatah posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Is somebody going to wreck her? Anybody? 68. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I know Danica is good on these R plate tracks but I'm actually nervous with her leading. She has no experience blocking like this." Her spotter is really gonna have to be on his game today. 69. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Keselowski goes to the lead...but then he almost gets wrecked. 70. dennyfan11 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Keselowski spins out. 71. numbah10hatah posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Caution for Brad Keselowski being an idiot. 72. The Long Shot posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Keselowski wrecks himself. 73. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) She is gonna wreck everyone blocking like that. Brad wrecks himself. 74. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) BK made a last lap move on lap 15, caution. Somehow the back half of the field didn't clobber him. 75. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) How that wasn't a big wreck is miraculous. 76. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That was not a smart move that Keselowski made right there. Way too aggressive a move this early in the race. Fortunately it didn't lead to half the field getting wiped out... 77. DB1995 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:34 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) A wreck that Danica was next to and it was a champions fault!, i am shocked!! 78. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Not a smart move by Brad at all, fortunately it's early enough he can get repairs and work his way back to the front. 79. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) McMurray probably got the most damage in that from going through the grass. 80. NoLongerAnonymous posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) First race I've had time to catch since Daytona... and wow, what was Keselowski thinking? At least he did a great job of not totally destroying the car, he'll still have a shot. 81. Cumulonimbus posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Trevor Bayne did an amazing job avoiding the 2 coming back up the track AND leaving enough room for Labonte on the outside. 82. Seagal posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:37 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Ironic Brad does that after ripping Matt last week for doing the same in the Unlimited. 83. WinstonCup4Ever posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) May not be a huge Danica fan, but I have respect for most every driver in today's field. I'm one of those RR posters that doesn't usually like to rant, only because I respect everybody's opinion. 84. Mike posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Props to Trevor Bayne, Josh Wise and Terry Labonte for missing Brad there. 85. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Keselowski is still in the pits with his hood up. May have been more damage to his car than we thought. 86. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) BK has no water pressure, goes down a lap while he gets the water replaced. 87. The Long Shot posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Not-so-bold prediction: the Big One will be caused by someone mirror-driving. Danica was really trying to slot in between Brad and Jeff? Even a rookie driver would know that wasn't going to work. 88. dennyfan11 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Green back out! 89. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Even worse, still in the pits with a large puddle under his car. 90. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) There is water EVERYWHERE in Keselowski's pit. 91. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Keselowski is pretty much done for the day. He's on pit road and is about to go four laps down. This was a classic example of "shoot yourself in the foot". 92. numbah10hatah posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Keselowski has water pressure issues. 93. The Long Shot posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (3) Captain Jesus running in the top 10. 94. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Logano going for the lead. 95. cjs3872 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Actually, Brad made two dumb moves there. The first was that aggressive blocking move, which could have wrecked most of the field. The second mistake Brad made was not spinning the car out once he was on the apron, because by not spinning the car out, he risked getting others involved, and Bayne and McMurray di get involved, though there's no perceptible damage to Bayne's car, and it might have been worse for him, but Terry Labonte, the wise veteran that he is, moved up to allow Bayne room between Keselowski's car and Labonte's, so that they didn't become casualties of the first of what's likely to be numerous dumb moves in this race. 96. DB1995 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The BrewCrew has had to replace the overflow tube which was cut. How did that happen? 97. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) "Danica was really trying to slot in between Brad and Jeff? Even a rookie driver would know that wasn't going to work." That doesn't surprise me, because right before Brad spun himself, she chopped off Gordon and easily could have started a big wreck. She's good in the draft, but she's still a novice when it comes to decision making out there. 98. jabber1990 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) how did I know they were going to do a 24 Promo on lap 24? I predict doing one with 24 to go 99. numbah10hatah posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) These "24" promos aren't going to get old anytime soon. Obvious sarcasm is obvious. 100. DB1995 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) TBH fox i couldnt care less about 24 coming back 101. joey2448 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:46 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Did the Keselowski spin remind anyone else of Jimmie's slide here in the fall race 2003? That looked very similar, and JJ nearly got clobbered in that spin as well. I'm impressed with the racing we have seen here since last year. After the 2013 Daytona 500, we were all horrified with the single-file racing and lack of passing, but the Dega races have been absolutely spectacular, each and every lap! They were 3-by-3 like 15 rows deep for a while! Good thing we've got this "24" commercial on the side now instead of actual race commentary... 102. numbah10hatah posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) jabber1990: They will probably do one on lap 124 as well. 103. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Good grief, I'm getting REALLY sick of all the hype over the return of 24... 104. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "how did I know they were going to do a 24 Promo on lap 24? I predict doing one with 24 to go" Wouldn't be shocked to see one at lap 124 as well. 105. Mike posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I wonder if Brad's splitter broke when he hit the apron. If it did, a piece of it might have gone through the overflow hose. 106. The Long Shot posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "That doesn't surprise me, because right before Brad spun himself, she chopped off Gordon and easily could have started a big wreck. She's good in the draft, but she's still a novice when it comes to decision making out there." To be fair, nobody's been great with decision making today. Everyone's been blocking like idiots when they get to the front. 107. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well Brad and Jamie Mac are done, they won't be the only ones having problems today. Logano leading the way now. 108. dennyfan11 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) SHUT UP ABOUT 24! 109. NoLongerAnonymous posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Six laps is a lot to have to make up through lucky dogs, especially when there is another car that's two laps down, so it looks like two of the best at Talladega are already out of contention. 110. Anonymous posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #93 Please clarify who you are talking about 111. The Long Shot posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ""how did I know they were going to do a 24 Promo on lap 24? I predict doing one with 24 to go" Wouldn't be shocked to see one at lap 124 as well." As well as whenever the 24 car goes to the lead. If Gordon wins the race, Fox will run "24" promos instead of their NASCAR coverage for the next week. 112. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Danica has been shuffled out towards the back. 113. Anonymous posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Which commercial is more annoying? 24 live another day, or American Idol? 114. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:52 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Anyone else get the feeling that the Big One will happen during a 24 promo? 115. The Long Shot posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "#93 Please clarify who you are talking about" McDowell. 116. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:53 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) Who honestly still cares about American Idol these days? 117. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ragan seriously has KFC chicken in his car? 118. dennyfan11 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Upsets in top 10 after 33 laps. -Ryan Truex 9th Trevor Bayne 10th 119. cjs3872 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Three wide, 15 rows deep, joey2448? We know that's mathematically impossible, since that would be 45 cars, and only 43 started this race. Ten rows deep I'll buy, but 15 is impossible. Frankly, that looked like a start of the Indianapolis 500 before Brad made hi dumb move. As long as Danica, Jeff Gordon, and Paul Menard were leading each line, they were probably going to be alright, but when someone like Keselowski, who likes to stir things up, got in front, there was a possibility that something could happen. 120. Anonymous posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #116 I'm surprised that show is still on in the first place 121. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Carl Edwards to the lead. 122. dennyfan11 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @116,I watched A musical called "We Will Rock You" based off the music of Queen. In it,set in 2214,American Idol is what killed real music,repalcing it with manufactured crappy pop stars. 123. joey2448 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Haha as much as I hate KFC commercials, that "Go-Cup" in David Ragan's car is pretty cool. Good marketing. Actually that reminds me of that KFC commercial from several years ago that had old scenes of cars spinning out because the drivers were trying to eat chicken while they were racing. If Ragan wrecks today, maybe we could blame it on the chicken. 124. NoLongerAnonymous posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) McMurray's car has been reduced to a roadblock on wheels. 125. numbah10hatah posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I could go for some KFC right about now. 126. The Long Shot posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:57 pm Rate this comment: (1) (2) Fox seriously needs to stop with the Trevor Bayne fan-boying. Yeah, he won the Daytona 500 as a 20 year-old rookie, but he's done jack-shit since. 127. DB1995 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) We should probably state that Brads spotter cleared him to move down , so everyone quit yer bitchin other drivers have done it before and it will happen again. 128. numbah10hatah posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:59 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) What's kind of funny about American Idol is that the winners don't normally become the big stars. The only 2 winners of American Idol I can think of that have gained international popularity are Carrie Underwood and Kelly Clarkson. 129. The Long Shot posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "@116,I watched A musical called "We Will Rock You" based off the music of Queen." A Queen musical?! *masturbates* 130. joey2448 posted: 05.04.2014 - 1:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yeah cjs I didn't do the proper math before I posted that, haha...although maybe the field could've been 3-wide, 15 rows deep back in the days when 60 or so cars ran! Feel pretty bad for Keselowski and McMurray, as both seem to be out of contention already. 131. numbah10hatah posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:00 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Long Shot: I prefer them fan-boying over Bayne than them fan-boying over Danican't. I cannot believe I just said fanboying. 132. DB1995 posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:01 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Yes they are totally fan-boying Trevor Bayne they talk about him 4 times a year, and they talk about past accomplishments of every driver out there. 133. The Long Shot posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "What's kind of funny about American Idol is that the winners don't normally become the big stars. The only 2 winners of American Idol I can think of that have gained international popularity are Carrie Underwood and Kelly Clarkson." Phillip Phillips had that one song that was pretty huge, but yeah, those are the only toe that REALLY benefitted from "Idol". 134. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The spotters are usually binoculars??? Thanks for the contribution, Hammond. 135. dennyfan11 posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @126 I know right? 136. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I meant using. Maybe I shouldn't be too quick to bash someone. 137. numbah10hatah posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Not to mention countless other losers have gained some fame as well. One name in particular that comes to mind is Chris Daughtry. 138. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) No idea what Hamlin is doing. He's driving really erratically. 139. Jarrett88fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Reagan's chicken must be ready to come out of the go cup pressure fryer as he nearly takes the lead. 140. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Caution for debris. 141. Anonymous posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #137 Another name that comes to mind is David Archuleta. Teenage girls were all over him, just like that Brian Vickers commercial FOX showed a few minutes ago. Why on earth do teenage girls follow some guy(s) that don't even sing well and they call them the "best singers ever"? I mean really. 142. numbah10hatah posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Debris" 143. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Caution for debris. McMurray gets the free pass...not that it will help him any because he's already seven laps behind. 144. The Long Shot posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Yes they are totally fan-boying Trevor Bayne they talk about him 4 times a year, and they talk about past accomplishments of every driver out there." They barely mention him at the non-plate races, but go to Daytona or Talladega, and it's, "OMG REMEMBER WHEN TREVOR WON THE DAYTONA 500 WHEN HE WAS 20???!!" They talk about him being a great plate racer when in fact he's only decent at best (he's had only one top 10 finish since his 500 win). Debris caution. 145. jabber1990 posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) when was the last time a car more than 1 or 2 laps down got the free pass? 146. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #141 Don't you know? It's because they look attractive. Sad, but true. 147. NoLongerAnonymous posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) American Idol lost any credibility it may have had when Sanjaya Malakar nearly finished in the top half of finalists. NASCAR calls a "cars were too spread out" caution. 148. dennyfan11 posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @The Long Shot,Yep. It was AMAZING!!! It featured great songs,was very funny,had great lighting,sets,story,characters,and band. On that note,here are my favorite queen songs. 1-Bohemian Rhapsody 2-Bicycle Race 3-Fat Bottomed Girls 4-Another One Bites The Dust 5-Radio Ga Ga 6-We Will Rock You 7-SomeBody to Love 8-I Want It All 8(tie) The Show Must Go On 9-You're My Best Friend 9-(tie) Under Pressure 10-I Want To Break Free 10(tie) Tie Your Mother Down 149. RACIN GARDNER posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I don't understand why entertainment cautions are necessary when the race is actually entertaining. 150. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:12 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I like Stone Cold Crazy, as well as Metallica's cover of said song. 151. DB1995 posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:13 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Yes they are totally fan-boying Trevor Bayne they talk about him 4 times a year, and they talk about past accomplishments of every driver out there." They barely mention him at the non-plate races, but go to Daytona or Talladega, and it's, "OMG REMEMBER WHEN TREVOR WON THE DAYTONA 500 WHEN HE WAS 20???!!" They talk about him being a great plate racer when in fact he's only decent at best (he's had only one top 10 finish since his 500 win). Debris caution." He has actually done very weel at the RP tracks he just never gets the finishes he deserves there. 152. Anonymous posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #146 That's very sad. It's not about what's on the outside, but it's what's on the inside that counts. I'm not trying to be a preacher, but even the Bible says that. 153. dennyfan11 posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) What Are your Favorite Queen Songs? 154. jabber1990 posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) American Idol would be more impressive if they wrote their own songs you're going to have a record deal, fanboys, and everything GIVEN to you the least you can do is write your own music I think the show is fake anyway, well its only been fake as of recently, they probably ran out of talented people a number of years ago 155. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gibbs teammates lined up on the bottom. Logano seems to have the best car thus far. 156. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think my favorite Queen albums are the first three, oddly enough. 157. Seagal posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Joey about pulled a Brad on Matt Kenseth...Geez 158. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Biffle now goes to the lead. 159. startandparkfan posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Joey Logano is going to either a) Win this race or b) Start the big one. 160. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) David Ragan looks to have a really good car today. I know he had a bad pit stop just now, but he's been in that front part of the field for a while now. A repeat win is entirely possible. 161. dennyfan11 posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @126 I know right? oops i meant @128. Trevor Bayne Has a lot of potential!I have high hopes for him to be big someday. 162. The Long Shot posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @dennyfan11: "The Show Must Go On" is my personal favorite. "Innuendo" is also up there, and it's hard to beat "Bohemian Rhapsody". Queen is such an underrated group, it's not even funny. They absolutely are in the top 10 rock groups of all time, and you could easily make a case for their being top 5. 163. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Joey about pulled a Brad on Matt Kenseth...Geez" Everyone has been moving around and throwing crazy blocks. If the big one occurs it will be because of someone pulling a Brad. 164. dennyfan11 posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:20 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Underrated?" Theve sold 200 million-300 million albums! 165. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) OMG! The 3 and Dale Jr are back-to-back. Surprised Fox hasn't put an iso cam on them. 166. joey2448 posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Anyone know what the rear spoiler heights are for this weekend? They look really small, like they were last year. 167. The Long Shot posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I think my favorite Queen albums are the first three, oddly enough." "Innuendo" is phenomenal. The album was made while Freddie Mercury was dying of AIDS, and because of that, almost all of the songs had some sort of "death" or "end" metaphor. I know they released an album after Mercury's death, but the "Innuendo" album to me marked the end of Queen. 168. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:22 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Queen is underrated how? They're one of the most popular rock bands of all time and numerous songs of theirs are staples of classic rock radio. Saying Queen is underrated would be like saying that Led Zeppelin or the Who are underrated 169. dennyfan11 posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) You HAVE to like that high note in The Show Must Go On! 170. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) There really are no bad Queen songs (except for everything on that horrible Hot Space album - and I give them a pass for their late 80s/early 90s work because of Freddie's illness). But yes, all their classic stuff is undeniable. News Of The World, Day At The Races, and Night At The Opera are my favorites. 171. Jarrett88fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Blocking will be the cause of the Big Ones after seeing Logano cut off challengers. 172. Anonymous posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) American Idol started a new franchise. If it weren't for American Idol, shows like The Voice, America's Got Talent, and Dancing with the Stars probably wouldn't exist. 173. dennyfan11 posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) But Under Pressure!!! that high note WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY 174. RCRandPenskeGuy posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "They barely mention him at the non-plate races, but go to Daytona or Talladega, and it's, "OMG REMEMBER WHEN TREVOR WON THE DAYTONA 500 WHEN HE WAS 20???!!" They talk about him being a great plate racer when in fact he's only decent at best (he's had only one top 10 finish since his 500 win)." It's looking like that Daytona 500 will be the highlight of his career too. At the time I thought he would help resurrect the #21 (to where they could once again run full schedules) and make it onto a top team. Looking at his career since then, he's following in Derrike Cope's footsteps. 175. jabber1990 posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This race seems to be coming and going in phases you had the Menard Phase, Danica Dynasty, Logano Phase, now its the Biffle Phase 176. The Long Shot posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ""Underrated?" Theve sold 200 million-300 million albums!" And how often do you see their name among the greatest rock bands of all time? Not often, because of groups like The Rolling Stones and Aerosmith, both of which I immensely dislike and think are massively overrated. Edwards has a vibration. 177. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sheer Heart Attack is pretty damn good album too. Forgot about that one. Back to the race, it looks like some guys like Carl Edwards have decided to go backwards, because these leaders are making some pretty hasty maneuvers. 178. numbah10hatah posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) How dare you compare American Idol to America's Got Talent. Not even close. 179. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "American Idol started a new franchise. If it weren't for American Idol, shows like The Voice, America's Got Talent, and Dancing with the Stars probably wouldn't exist." I would be perfectly fine if those shows didn't exist. This is some seriously nerve-wracking racing right now. It's definitely entertaining to watch, but there's no way they can keep this up for another 118 laps. 180. Seagal posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Biffle and Kenseth are pretty strong together but the Biff isn't the best decision maker at these races. Not sure how I feel about it. 181. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:29 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) The problem with Trevor Bayne is that he's stuck at Jack Roush's free-falling organization. The only way to know for sure if he is any good or not would be to see how he would do with a different team. Hopefully he can break free (lol, Queen pun) from Roush pretty soon. 182. dennyfan11 posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Watchmojo put queen ahaed of Rolling Stones And Aerosmith 183. We need more Onion posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hah, I don't have to watch ads, as German coverage does not include them. Happily not knowing what that "24" stuff is. 184. jabber1990 posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I used to know a girl who was on Americas Got Talent, I forget what she did, I wasn't able to watch it because I either had to work that night or it was because I didn't have TV I didn't watch TV from September 2009-December 2011 185. NoLongerAnonymous posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "And how often do you see their name among the greatest rock bands of all time? Not often, because of groups like The Rolling Stones and Aerosmith, both of which I immensely dislike and think are massively overrated." Most rankings I've seen have had Queen at least in the top 10. I agree about Aerosmith to an extent, but I think the Rolling Stones earned their status, they've almost been as influential to rock as the Beatles. Now one band I've always thought was overrated is Led Zeppelin, mostly because I don't think Robert Plant is a great vocalist. 186. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gordon is way in the back now. 187. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And Stewart is having overheating issues. He's in 41st. 188. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sounds like all the drivers having overheating issues have Hendrick engines. 189. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gordon is about to be the last car on the lead lap. 190. We need more Onion posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Unusual to see the Germain car in the very back on RP tracks, but with the luck they usually have, it is very likely a good idea. 191. RCRandPenskeGuy posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "The only way to know for sure if he is any good or not would be to see how he would do with a different team. Hopefully he can break free (lol, Queen pun) from Roush pretty soon." I hope you're right, I would like to see Trevor succeed. Seems like half the field is making risky moves today. 192. Seagal posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think literally every Hendrick-engine driver has complained about overheating...except Johnson. 193. NoLongerAnonymous posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If you can't be leading your line like Johnson, it's probably best to just drop back away from the pack some to cool off. I imagine Johnson would drop back if someone pulled in front of him. 194. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think literally every Hendrick-engine driver has complained about overheating...except Johnson. Probably because he's been in front of one of the lines for a while; getting fresh air to the grill. and Zep is overrated because they took riffs and lyrics from the old bluesmen without giving them credit until they were taken to court for royalties. 195. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The top four are single file, and then behind that it's just madness. 196. The Long Shot posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Watchmojo put queen ahaed of Rolling Stones And Aerosmith" That's better than Rolling Stone Magazine. Rolling Stone put Queen as their #52 artist of all time, almost 50 spots below the Stones. "Most rankings I've seen have had Queen at least in the top 10. I agree about Aerosmith to an extent, but I think the Rolling Stones earned their status, they've almost been as influential to rock as the Beatles." I don't disagree with their influence; I just think their music is overrated. I feel the same way about most 80's hair metal bands. "Now one band I've always thought was overrated is Led Zeppelin, mostly because I don't think Robert Plant is a great vocalist." I like Zeppelin personally, but I really wish Plant didn't have to rip his throat out whenever he sang. 197. joey2448 posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jesus, Mike Joy just gave me a jump when he yelled "Oh it's Happy Star Wars day!" I thought there was a wreck happening. Take note, Jeff Gordon and Tony Stewart are currently running 40th and 41st, last two cars on the lead lap. 198. SpeedWorld97 posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I cringe every time they use the term "world's greatest drivers." 199. Seagal posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Stewart fell all the way back and was claiming he still couldn't get the temps down in wide-open space. Something else is up. 200. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "and Zep is overrated because they took riffs and lyrics from the old bluesmen without giving them credit until they were taken to court for royalties." As much as I love Led Zeppelin (I have heard all their songs so many times that I don't even really need to listen to them anymore; I have them pretty close to memorized by heart!), that for me is enough to DQ them from "greatest ever" status like many other people give them. They really SHOULD have given some credit to the blues musicians who inspired them... Green flag pit stop time. 201. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) MemeMachine on pit road. 202. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The Dogecoin car pits all by itself. 203. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Damn, nobody wants to pit with the underdogs! 204. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) What's an 'ol Google machine? 205. We need more Onion posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) *underdoges 206. numbah10hatah posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (3) You know a restrictor plate race is boring when there is green-flag pit stops. 207. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Green flag pit stops. These might get a little hairy. I've never been that into The Rolling Stones or The Beatles. I've got tons of respect for both bands and their influence. I'm just not really into them that much personally. When it comes to old school rock for me, it's all about Led Zeppelin, The Who, The Stooges, Alice Cooper, and Black Sabbath. 208. Anonymous posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) bet the likes of deep purple and black sabbath get underrated too in reply to comment 196 209. numbah10hatah posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:51 pm Rate this comment: (1) (6) Ew. Rock music. 210. Seagal posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:51 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Constant 3-wide at Dega is not boring imo. Some of you have near impossible standards at these races. 211. dennyfan11 posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) What Queen songs do you like most? 212. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "You know a restrictor plate race is boring when there is green-flag pit stops." You must not have been watching last year's plate races, because this race is absolutely fantastic in comparison to that garbage last year. 213. Jarrett88fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This part of a Talladega race is almost always a mirage because every team has a different strategy 214. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If three-wide racing at Talladega is boring, then what do you consider to be exciting? Four wide racing? 215. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) New players up at the front include Kurt Busch, Dale Jr, and Alex Bowman. 216. dennyfan11 posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) upsets in top 10 Alex Bowman 217. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Caution flag. 218. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Apparently a caution light came apart. 219. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 2:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Caution for the caution light falling apart. Kind of like at Fontana that one year. 220. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Caution for the light cover coming loose. 221. dennyfan11 posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Caution for caution light 222. jabber1990 posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Kind of like at Fontana that one year." except this race is better! 223. cjs3872 posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Or Homestead, murb. I remember one of the caution lights coming undone there one year, though I forget what year it was. 224. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:04 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Hey, CCR! And not some crummy modern cover version, either! 225. joey2448 posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This isn't the first time we've seen those caution light covers come loose and cause a caution. I can see that they are tethered to the fence so they don't fly away, but the track ought to just replace them or something if they keep falling apart. This race is flying by. 226. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Showing the Truck points right now...seriously, who is the genius who decided the first three races of the Truck Series needed to be spread out over the course of three months? 227. Jarrett88fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Excellent work #48 crew, the Boys and Girls Club is an awesome charity. 228. dennyfan11 posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Green Back Out! Anyway,Marcos Ambrose's team has prepared too much for a big one? This race has been very clean. Only 3 cautions,and only 1 for a crash,which was a mere single car spin 229. jabber1990 posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) STENHOUSE!!! 230. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Good to see Trevor Bayne out front after barely avoiding piledriving Brad when he came back up the track from his spin earlier. 231. Jarrett88fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Shhh dennyfan11 there is still time as we get down to crunch time. 232. dennyfan11 posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ohh yeahh... 233. Mr X posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm not sure that as DW says, that 200mph pack racing is what 45 years after it's construction is what big Bill France built this place for, given that he fought with the drivers union over slightly slower speeds at the first race. Bill would be pretty disappointed with the lack of speed at a track that is over a mile larger then most of the others, they're going slower the they used to. 234. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Things are starting to get single file right now, so maybe this is the "calm before the storm" part of the race. 235. joey2448 posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Is Brad seriously messing with Danica??? If so, c'mon man! I love Keselowski, but it seems like he gets riled up every time someone touches him! Let it go man, it's called racing! 236. DB1995 posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) No that wasnt "payback" FOX commentators 237. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) BK despite being several laps down is bringing the Fords on the outside line back to the lead. 238. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Is Brad seriously messing with Danica??? If so, c'mon man! I love Keselowski, but it seems like he gets riled up every time someone touches him! Let it go man, it's called racing!" I think he was just side drafting her. 239. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Big one. 240. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Multi-car crash. Keselowski, Jeff Gordon, Trevor Bayne, and others have serious damage. 241. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) There's the big one. 242. John Royal posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:30 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Is Brad idiot or what? Ruining other peoples race, not his. 243. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) BK got loose and spun in front of the field. 244. joey2448 posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 1-2 in points involved 245. DB1995 posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Looks like Brad may had cut a tire down. 246. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:30 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) Keselowski loses it in front of the field and takes out a bunch of cars, including Matt Kenseth and Jeff Gordon. I have no idea why Brad was up there racing that hard while six laps down. 247. We need more Onion posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) No-one I like was involved. Whew. What a drive by Bowman. 248. 1995z71 posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Since his Daytona 500 win Trevor Bayne has had the worst luck. 249. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Actually, yeah, looks like Brad cut a tire down. 250. We need more Onion posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The Leavine Ford genuinely looks like one of the top contenders. 251. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (3) "Is Brad idiot or what? Ruining other peoples race, not his." Oh come on! He had a fast car that could keep pace with the leaders. Anyone of the other drivers would of been doing the same thing in his situation. You act he pulled a Bowyer at Richmond, it was a racing deal. 252. RCRandPenskeGuy posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Another Big One adds to the portfolio of times it has happened when it could have been avoided. 253. John Royal posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:36 pm Rate this comment: (6) (0) Being there 6 laps down messing with leaders, having fast car or not, is not cool. 254. Jarrett88fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Seems like a cut tire on the 2. 255. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:36 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Though break for Trevor Bayne, everytime he has a good car he caught up in someone's else s mess. 256. jabber1990 posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "You act he pulled a Bowyer at Richmond, it was a racing deal." and what exactly does "Pulled a Boywer at Richmond" mean? 257. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:36 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Oh come on! He had a fast car that could keep pace with the leaders. Anyone of the other drivers would of been doing the same thing in his situation. You act he pulled a Bowyer at Richmond, it was a racing deal. " He is out of contention... in every other racing series that has existed since Ben-Hur was racing Roman chariots at the Colosseum in ancient Rome, you do NOT race the leaders when you are out of contention. 258. RCRandPenskeGuy posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Never mind, the #2 car blew a tire and that's what caused him to spin. 259. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "and what exactly does "Pulled a Boywer at Richmond" mean?" Intentionally spun out or caused a wreck. 260. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Looks like Carl Edwards or Kyle Busch might leave this race with the points lead if nothing happens to either of them... 261. luigistarted06 posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Alex Bowman has a fair amount of damage. Fortunately though, it looks like he'll be able to continue 262. Dave #38 Fan-Go Gilliland! posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:39 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Oh come on! He had a fast car that could keep pace with the leaders. Anyone of the other drivers would of been doing the same thing in his situation. You act he pulled a Bowyer at Richmond, it was a racing deal." Were he just 1 lap down racing to get back on the lead lap, it's understandable. but he was SIX LAPS DOWN. He had NO BUSINESS being anywhere in the same zip code as the leaders. I put this one squarely on Nascar's shoulders for not flagging him to the back of the pack as soon as they caught up with him. 263. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Pulled a Boywer at Richmond" Spun on purpose, look up the 2013 Federated Auto Parts 400 http://www.racing-reference.info/race/2013_Federated_Auto_Parts_400/W 264. Jarrett88fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) There will be one or two more wrecks as these cars are on a razors edge. 265. Dave #38 Fan-Go Gilliland! posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Even the ARCA racing officials have had the forsight to black flag a car multiple laps down that won't yield to the leaders before a completely-avoidable situation like this occured. 266. Jim Davis posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I put this one squarely on Nascar's shoulders for not flagging him to the back of the pack as soon as they caught up with him." The pack didn't catch up to him. He restarted with the pack after the caution for the broken light. 267. SpeedWorld97 posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "He is out of contention... in every other racing series that has existed since Ben-Hur was racing Roman chariots at the Colosseum in ancient Rome, you do NOT race the leaders when you are out of contention." That's exactly it. Some racing disciplines will (rightfully) penalize you for such an action. 268. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I understand where Brad is coming from, as he did have a fast car. But he was SIX laps down. It would be one thing if he was just one lap down trying to get back on the lead lap, but he was six laps down, completely out of contention, and racing the leaders like a dick. I remember Kyle Busch did this at a Truck race in Daytona a few years ago. I think it was the race where Austin Dillon wrecked the entire field on the first lap. Kyle came back out like 10 laps down and just raced everybody ridiculously. But yeah, I would get it if Brad was just one lap down racing for the lucky dog or whatever, but I think six laps down is too far back to be racing the leaders like that. It's a shame all those cars got torn up. 269. joey2448 posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "and what exactly does "Pulled a Boywer at Richmond" mean?" Where were you last September? 270. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Insane racing for the lead. Cool to see David Ragan up there battling. He really is one of the best plate racers in Nascar today. 271. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "He really is one of the best plate racers in Nascar today." And apparently, one of the most beautiful people in the world of sports today. 272. luigistarted06 posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Landon Cassill running top 5 273. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Insane racing for the lead. Cool to see David Ragan up there battling. He really is one of the best plate racers in Nascar today. Quit it, you're gonna make Rusty Wallace cry. 274. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Caution for David Gilliland. 275. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Should he of been up there with the leaders, no but you never know wither or not you'll get that lucky caution(obviously he didn't). Brad should of focused on racing McMurray for the lucky dog instead of running up to the front. "I remember Kyle Busch did this at a Truck race in Daytona a few years ago. I think it was the race where Austin Dillon wrecked the entire field on the first lap. Kyle came back out like 10 laps down and just raced everybody ridiculously. But yeah, I would get it if Brad was just one lap down racing for the lucky dog or whatever, but I think six laps down is too far back to be racing the leaders like that. It's a shame all those cars got torn up." This! Caution for Gilliand blowing up. 276. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) David Gilliland blows an engine and another caution comes out. Damn, my picks are falling by the wayside! 277. luigistarted06 posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) David Gilliland blows up while running in the top 15 278. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wow. That is a SERIOUS engine failure right there. 279. We need more Onion posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Rare to see a blowup this big without any oil fire. 280. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Looks like about half the lead lap cars pitted or so. 281. John Royal posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:52 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) It was like WW2 happened to Gilliland's car. 282. cjs3872 posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) As for Trevor Bayne's bad luck since his Daytona 500 win, it's almost like what's happened to him has become NASCAR's version of the Andretti curse at Indy, almost as if the racing gods said to Bayne that "we'll give you this one, but we're going to torment you the rest of your career". That's what they did with Mario at Indy in 1969, as they've tormented the entire Andretti family at Indy since, and ever since Bayne's Daytona 500 win, the racing gods seem to have tormented him since then, and continue to do so. And that doesn't even include him getting diagnosed with multiple sclerosis last year, something he's likely had since not long after his 2011 Daytona 500 win. Even Roush's NNS program, one of the best over the last 20 years, crashed to earth at the same time that he became their #2 driver in that series. So maybe Bayne may genuinely be cursed, which if true, is an awful shame. 283. jabber1990 posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ""and what exactly does "Pulled a Boywer at Richmond" mean?" Where were you last September?" I didn't know if you were talking about Last September, or last Saturday 284. Biscuits In A Red Bull posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Just thought I'd come on here to reply to John Royal. Watch Simon Belcher or Nick Foster's crashes at Thruxton today during the BTCC races, that's WW2... ...cars really can fly... 285. RCRandPenskeGuy posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:53 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) In worst case scenario, NASCAR could just tell the guys laps down to race for the lucky dog at the tail end of the lead pack to avoid situations when something goes wrong like what happened with Brad. 286. Dave #38 Fan-Go Gilliland! posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "So maybe Bayne may genuinely be cursed, which if true, is an awful shame." *sigh* seriously? you realized that there is NO SUCH THING as curses, right? 287. AveryNH posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:55 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) The thing that gets me is if say McMurray was in brad's spot and caused a wreck that involved Brad, Jamie would be chewed out by brad. I like him but I'm beyond sick of his double standard policeman role he's anointed himself too. Gordon should pay him a visit 288. Jarrett88fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Buckle up, it's demo derby time. Sad but true. 289. Biscuits In A Red Bull posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "*sigh* seriously? you realized that there is NO SUCH THING as curses, right? " Well, you say that... 290. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "The thing that gets me is if say McMurray was in brad's spot and caused a wreck that involved Brad, Jamie would be chewed out by brad. I like him but I'm beyond sick of his double standard policeman role he's anointed himself too." Absolutely agree with this. 291. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I greatly respect cjs for his vast racing knowledge which decidedly surpasses my own. But he's got to be the most superstitious person who posts here. 292. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ""So maybe Bayne may genuinely be cursed, which if true, is an awful shame." *sigh* seriously? you realized that there is NO SUCH THING as curses, right? " Curse is relative. If you are religious, then you would realize a "curse" means God's judgment. If you are non-religious, then a curse is a fancy way of acknowledging that the teams a driver drives for just can't put together a full package. 293. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Where were you last September?" I didn't know if you were talking about Last September, or last Saturday" Last September. "In worst case scenario, NASCAR could just tell the guys laps down to race for the lucky dog at the tail end of the lead pack to avoid situations when something goes wrong like what happened with Brad." NASCAR usually does that only if the laps down cars aren't up to speed. Brad was keeping pace with the leaders when he got loose/cut a tire or whatever happened to make him spin out. Also Kenseth called Brad's move "mind-boggling", those are the same words Brad called Matt's blocking of him and Gordon last week. LOL irony. 294. Jim Davis posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:58 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "....almost as if the racing gods said to Bayne..." You are speaking figuratively here, right? You don't really think there are a bunch of gods who control racing, right? 295. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:59 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Hey, cjs, a black cat just crossed in front of you, causing you to back up under a ladder in fear and accidentally back into a mirror, which breaks. In turning to see the mirror, you stepped on a crack. 296. cjs3872 posted: 05.04.2014 - 3:59 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) An even more dramatic case of what you're talking about in post #268, murb, took place in the 1986 Daytona 500. Neil Bonnett had the best car in that race, but while leading, tore up his gearbox on a restart, nearly getting run over by Dale Earnhardt in the process. He lost 20 laps getting it repaired, and even managed to get two of them back. But on lap 118, he was again racing with the leaders when his car broke a wheel, starting a huge crash that eliminated, among others, Cale Yarborough, Buddy Baker, Harry Gant, Joe Ruttman, and damaged the car of Bill Elliott. And of course, there was the crash at Darlington in 1990 when Ernie Irvan, who was nine laps down, raced hard with Ken Schrader, and both cars spun out, causing a huge crash, which gave Neil Bonnett a concussion so severe, that it caused memory loss. 297. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:00 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "The thing that gets me is if say McMurray was in brad's spot and caused a wreck that involved Brad, Jamie would be chewed out by brad. I like him but I'm beyond sick of his double standard policeman role he's anointed himself too." 100% agree with this. I used to actually quite like Keselowski, but he's on the verge of becoming one of my least favorite drivers with his recent attitude problems. 298. Jarrett88fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:01 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Shame nobody helped Terry Labonte. 299. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:02 pm Rate this comment: (1) (2) Piss off, Johnson. 300. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Vickers going for the lead. 301. Dave #38 Fan-Go Gilliland! posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:02 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Someone on twitter just made a good point-Brad wasn't even in the lucky dog position-Jamie McMurray was in position for the next four lucky dogs, because he was 1 lap ahead of Keselowski. His move was borderline insane even if he WAS in the lucky dog position, now it's just inexcusable. Shame on him for ruining half a dozen drivers races and shame on Nascar for not black flagging him to the back of the pack or off the track. 302. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The Meme Machine is leading the outside line. ... And according to DW the driver of that car is Josh McDowell. 303. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) DW just called Josh Wise Josh McDowell. 304. SpeedWorld97 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Keselowski is back on track. Why won't NASCAR just park him already? 305. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "The thing that gets me is if say McMurray was in brad's spot and caused a wreck that involved Brad, Jamie would be chewed out by brad. I like him but I'm beyond sick of his double standard policeman role he's anointed himself too." He' become just like Smoke(the other garage hypocrite/sheriff), Denny Hamlin up till last year and the Busch Bros. which is a shame because he used to handle things like what happened at Martinsville so well. Maybe him winning the championship so soon wasn't a good thing after all since it clearly went to his head. 306. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Allgaier is on the move on the outside. 307. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:05 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Agreed. Keselowski's "I'm The Enforcer" schtick is getting really annoying. 308. Seagal posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) So mad. Can't type. Stupid Brad. 309. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Keselowski is back on track. Why won't NASCAR just park him already?" If he can't keep minimal speed they will. 310. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Wow, I didn't realize that we're almost down to 20 to go. I thought there was still about 45 laps left, lol 311. RaceFanX posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I feel less guilty about mistaking Josh Wise for Malcolm McDowell in that first post about the Dogecoin car now that DW made the same mistake. I'm also glad "Meme Machine" took off as its nickname. I wasn't even thinking of the Aaron's pun when I said it. 312. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Allgaier and Josh McDowell coming on the outside. 313. The Long Shot posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I foresee a finish similar to that of the 2012 fall race here. This is insane racing, but there's no way they make it to the end without wrecking. 314. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I feel less guilty about mistaking Josh Wise for Malcolm McDowell in that first post about the Dogecoin car now that DW made the same mistake. I didn't know Josh Wise was a Droog. 315. Jarrett88fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Mike Joy said race to the lead and race to the back...tic tock. 316. We need more Onion posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Meh, the boring driver lane is speeding up. And now Harvick takes the lead of the middle lane. 317. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick to the lead. 318. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick to the lead. 20 to go. 319. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick leading. 320. jabber1990 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 4Wide for 2 rows! 321. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) They're trying to go four wide! 322. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Menard, Stenhouse, and Danica all just almost crashed each other. 323. We need more Onion posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ah, the Meme Machine got shuffled back. :( 324. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Dale Jr. is hanging back, guess he figures there's gonna be another wreck. 325. We need more Onion posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Allgaier is really exciting to watch, he tries very hard to get to the front. 326. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) I get this dark feeling that we're going to have some rerun of a winner like Harvick or some old-hat winner like Biffle... nobody exciting even if the race is exciting. Do I make sense? 327. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If they can make it to the checkered flag without wrecking, I will be DAMNED impressed. 328. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Big Wreck number two. 329. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This has been a really good race. I love this year's restrictor plate package. Big wreck, Logano and Kurt Busch involved. 330. joey2448 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Shout out to Delma Cowart! I said this yesterday in the late laps of the Nationwide race, but it bears repeating -- Everyone hold a pretty wheel... And just as I say that, crash! 331. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And another multi-car crash. Johnson, Ragan, Kurt Busch, and Logano are involved. 332. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Dos Jotas lost control and started the chain reaction. Happy Cinco de Mayo! 333. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hate that for David Ragan. He was coming back up to the front. 334. SpeedWorld97 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Junior's plan is looking genius right now. 335. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Michael McDowell and Austin Dillon were also involved. 336. The Long Shot posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Big one. Johnson, Logano, Ragan, Ku. Busch, McDowell involved. 337. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jimmie must have lost a tire or something. 338. We need more Onion posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Wise did what he had done in last year's Nationwide race. Shame for McDowell, Logano, Kurt and Ragan, because Jimmie can't drive a corner... 339. Seagal posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I've never seen someone spin by themselves as much as Jimmie. Lol. Did the Doge car make it through? 340. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Same thing that happened to Brad looks like it happened to JJ. Though break for Logano, Kurt Busch, McDowell, David Regan and others. 341. The Long Shot posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sorenson with damage as well. 342. We need more Onion posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:18 pm Rate this comment: (1) (2) Really, Josh Wise seems to do ARCA braking effectively. He can dash through these safely. And Jimmie lost no tire, just ran out of talent. 343. jabber1990 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) since Jimmie wrecked, he'll probably win 344. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Did the Doge car make it through?" Yes. 345. Seagal posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bets on how many cars are left by the last lap? 6 or 7? 346. I have never posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:19 pm Rate this comment: (3) (1) I'm Jimmie Johnson. BOOM! I caused the Big One. 347. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) One more about about the first big wreck. I was wrong about Brad racing for the lucky dog, he wasn't in position. I guess he was trying to get a lap back the hard way which makes even less sense. 348. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:21 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) The question I want to know is...did David Ragan's chicken survive the crash? 349. DB1995 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Weird only former champions have caused accidents today 350. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Man, that Saturday night Kansas race is probably gonna suck. 351. John Royal posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yes same thing happened to Brad and Jimmie: they ran out of talent. 352. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The Saturday night race at Kansas. Because making a race at a mediocre track a night race automatically makes it a classic. 353. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick has big trash on his grill. 354. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick has a HUGE piece of garbage covering his front grille. 355. We need more Onion posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) After looking pathetic in the 500, Larson really is doing a great race, composed and steady. 356. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And he gets if off by using the pace car. 357. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) But luckily for him, he was able to get rid of it by pulling up behind the pace car. 358. John Royal posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:27 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Harvick wiped his nose to Brett Bodines ass. 359. Jarrett88fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) White knuckle action ahead 360. I have never posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The field still has a lot of potential first time winner candidates. Cue the "Dark Horse" theme. 361. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin past Harvick to the lead. 362. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Dale Jr is way in the back again. 363. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Junior hangs out in the back. 364. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Edwards and Newman crash, another caution. 365. cjs3872 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Guys, the reason I think that Trevor Bayne may be cursed has to do with all the things that have happened to him since his Daytona 500 win, teams that were always strong becoming weaker when he became the lead driver, his having to miss several races while just a few points back of the lead, and him being diagnosed with multiple sclerosis. As for the whole racing gods letting him have one and then tormenting him, that idea came from something someone said regarding Mario Andretti at Indy, which is why I compare all of Trevor's bad luck to all the bad luck the Andretti family has had at Indy since his 1969 win. There's no way he should have ever finished that race, much less win it by two laps like he did, and that doesn't even take into consideration what happened to Mario before that race ever started. The difference is that Trevor's bad luck keeps following him, no matter where he races, where the Andretti jinx never went beyond Indy's walls. 366. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Edwards goes around and takes Newman with him. 367. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yeah, 5 wide going into turn 1 wasn't likely going to work. 368. We need more Onion posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Now THAT is how a blown tire spin looks like. 369. The Long Shot posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Edwards, Newman, Whitt wreck. 370. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Carl Edwards goes around and collects Ryan Newman. Cole Whitt also has some significant damage. The top 3 in points have ALL had problems today. Looks like Kyle Busch will end up being the new points leader if nothing happens to him! 371. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Cole Whitt also involved. 372. SpeedWorld97 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Every time Dale Jr. drops back, a crash takes place. 373. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Edwards had a tire go down it looks like. 374. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Carl had a problem, likely a flat tire. 375. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yeah, that had to be a tire problem on Edwards' car. He was waving out the window just before he spun. This restart is going to be SCARY. 376. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jamie McMurray is almost back on the lead lap! 377. We need more Onion posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Whitt's car was damaged to a similar extent before this spin, wouldn't call it major. 378. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jamie Mac's been racking up the lucky dogs, he's just one lap down now. Another caution and he's back on the lead lap. 379. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:33 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) See Brad, if you had been patient like McMurray, you'd have picked up 5-6 lucky dogs and had half a chance of a good finish. 380. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:33 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) McMurray is only one lap down now. If Brad hadn't panicked and just bide his time, that could have been him. 381. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) LOL if McMurray ends up getting back on the lead lap and comes out of this with a decent finish. Could happen! 382. We need more Onion posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) McMurray is looking to break Kenny Wallace's record of lucky dogs. 383. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:35 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) LOL Carl. "I think I ran over some furry animal." 384. joey2448 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I wonder if Carl is paid to take off his sunglasses every time he's interviewed, similar to drivers that are paid to take a sip of Coke every time they are interviewed. GWC! Here we go! 385. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin takes the white flag, wreck, no caution. 386. Biscuits In A Red Bull posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Maybe Carl ran over a lucky dog. Or unlucky dog in this case ;) 387. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Allgaier and Bowman crash..but no caution! 388. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Caution. Hamlin wins. 389. John Royal posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well, that was anticlimatic. 390. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin wins under yellow. 391. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) NASCAR let them race to the backstretch before throwing the flag. Too much debris by the start/finish. 392. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "See Brad, if you had been patient like McMurray, you'd have picked up 5-6 lucky dogs and had half a chance of a good finish. McMurray is only one lap down now. If Brad hadn't panicked and just bide his time, that could have been him." That seems to be a problem with a lot of up and comers and headcase drivers, they're either too impatient too aggressive or both. Hamlin wins after Alligair and another guy wreck on the front stretch. 393. The Long Shot posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Cassill gets a top 10! 394. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ....Did Landon Cassill get his first top 10? 395. We need more Onion posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Today's anti-climax, brought to you by Lowe's. Poor Bowman. At least Hamlin got a win and Cassill finally handed his record back to Baxter Price. 396. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It really sucks that it had to finish that way, but there was a huge bumper laying across the start/finish line, so that caution pretty much had to happen. 397. Anonymous posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Dale Jr was very lazy toward the end 398. SpeedWorld97 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:40 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) And I thought last year's finish in the fall race sucked. This takes the cake. And to make it worse, Denny Hamlin won. 399. NadeauFan91 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:40 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Hey Bifle, caution could come out at any second, you wanna TRY AND MAKE A MOVE?! 400. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Congrats to Denny though. He's been through a lot lately, so this win must feel good for him and that team. 401. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) They might have been able to race back had it not been for a large piece of Allgaier's car lying in the middle of the track. Disappointing finish, but...it's Talladega. I kind of expect stuff like that to happen here. Still a good race overall, though! Damned proud of Cassill for finally getting his first cup top 10. 402. Greg Biffle posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:41 pm Rate this comment: (6) (0) Nope No racing until Michigan, boys. 403. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bummer finish but still happy for Hamlin. Great runs for the Dinger and Landon Cassill. 404. DB1995 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) What exactly was Biffle going to do? 405. John Royal posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (3) The cars are so safe these days, that they could allow them to race back to the line. Just sayin' :) 406. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I wasn't aware that Biffle had rocket fuel and was capable of jumping out of line by himself and passing. There was nothing he could do. 407. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I said the ending would suck! 408. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Why was Dale Jr. so far back, would nobody work with him? 409. Jarrett88fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Note to the field: If you are in the top-5 coming to the white, please make your move because the drivers behind you will find a way to wreck every the there is a GWC at Talladega. 410. Mrittenhouse84 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:44 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @405 yeah the cars are safe, But what is to say the pack coming back to the finish and hitting that bumper and send pieces of it flying into the stands, It was the right call. 411. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (6) Biffle, I have seen and read about lots of race car drivers who were straight up talentess (Gaston Kearby), some who were disgusting pieces of crap (Gilles Villeneuve), and some who had no luck (Chris Amon). But, you, sir, take the cake of all of them! You are the only race car driver who doesn't give a crap about winning (today, 2009 and 2012 Daytona 500's), and you are the only guy who will betray his own teammate out of sympathy for another driver (2004 Fall Atlanta). Why the hell are you in the car?! 412. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:48 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "But what is to say the pack coming back to the finish and hitting that bumper and send pieces of it flying into the stands, It was the right call." Exactly. 413. cjs3872 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The only moment of confusion about the finish I can see is that Allgaier began spinning about 3 seconds before the field got the white flag, so NASCAR could have called a caution then and set up a GWC finish, which I detest on the plate tracks anyway, but overall, I think they did the right thing. There simply wasn't enough time for them to react and call for the caution prior to the leader getting the white flag. And for those that think Biffle should have tried a move on Hamlin, he was too far behind. Hamlin had that one in the bag, because nobody was going to be able to make any move on Hamlin, who looked at the end of the race like he did in the preliminary races to the Daytona 500, when he was untouchable. Also, Hamlin's win from the 34th position is the second-furthest back a Talladega winner has ever started. Only Jeff Gordon, who scored the first of a record four wins in this race in 2000 from the 36th starting position, qualified any worse for a Talladega winner. 414. We need more Onion posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "some who were disgusting pieces of crap (Gilles Villeneuve)" Wha-wha-what? Because ONE f**king mistake, which was actually RACING instead of letting someone else win? Really? Was he worse than bitches like Alonso or assholes like Lauda or Piquet? Don't think so. 415. Jarrett88fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Every time there is a GWC on a superspeedway, you have to race hard to win on the first lap because situations like today and last October at Talladega. 416. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ...Now they have Cassill listed back in 11th. 417. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jeff Gordon apparently hangs on to the points lead. 418. Jim Davis posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Did Cassill lose his top ten? 419. Jarrett88fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gordon still has the points lead thanks to a flat tire on the 99 car. 420. RCRandPenskeGuy posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) AJ Allmendinger has brought the #47 team back to decent status like they were when Ambrose drove for them. It's too bad Cassill couldn't finish higher, but I'll take 8th and I'm sure they will be more than happy to take it too, since their next chance for a Top 10 probably won't be until Daytona this Summer. 421. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Did Cassill lose his top ten?" Yeap, they have him scored in 12th. 422. Destroyahirismix666 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) AMAZING race! I thought last year's fall race was killer, but this turned out even better. Unlike last year, these guys were pushing 100 percent, all the way through. Hamlin had the win locked up when the white flag fell. A second line wasn't going to form, and Greg 'I'm content to finish 2nd' Biffle would not have even been able to make a move if he tried. (Suddenly, I'm glad DSFF isn't here, because all I can hear is his tirade of 'Drivers no longer have spirit, they wouldn't try anything at the end'.) Hamlin wins his 24th race in his 300th (SPARTA) start. Johnson had an un-Johnson Plate race. He ran up front as often as he could, got caught up in the 2nd big wreck and was caught up again in the ending crash. And speaking of which, like Last Fall, I am SOOOOOO glad they threw the caution. Sure, I would have preferred to see them race green to the end, but there was a lot of medium-to-large pieces of debris on the track just before, on, and past the start/finish line leading up to turn 1, and it would have been enough to damage cars and put more equipment at risk. I don't care what you say, it's a good thing they displayed the caution. Now if Allgeir had spun but not damaged the car viva McDowell 2008 Aaron's 499, then a caution would have been dumb. Newman has the WORST plate racing luck...well, luck bad enough that it rivals Steve Park... The one driver I do feel didn't even try was Dale Jr. He was a no-show most of the event, ended up falling back, had the second big one strike, he moved into the top 20 or so, then almost right after the green fell he dropped so far back it pushed him out of line. The only reason it's not going to look so bad was because Edwards and Newman crashed, which brought him back into the top 20 or so, in the draft, and even if he lost the draft on the GWC, he wasn't going to lose any more positions. I truly believe we have 'entered' a new style of 'Dega racing. No longer can you hang in the back of the field up until 35 to go, then rush to the front, and take a top 5 tralala Dale Sr or Dale Jarret (Well, Sr tried running up front most of the time, but you understand what I mean). Now it seems like the only way to win 'Dega, or pull a real good finish out, is to be up front at the end and hold onto it by force. The same could be said about Daytona, even though that has been true there for decades. 423. SpeedWorld97 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) "Note to the field: If you are in the top-5 coming to the white, please make your move because the drivers behind you will find a way to wreck every the there is a GWC at Talladega." But remember, FOX is trying to brainwash us into thinking these drivers are the "best in the world." 424. jabber1990 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) where the hell did Boywer come from? 425. RCRandPenskeGuy posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Looks like Cassill lost his Top 10, FOX is now scoring him 11th. *sigh* 426. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:56 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) Seriously though, you have to admit that this was an awesome race despite the anticlimactic finish. Great racing all day. 427. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 4:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Seriously though, you have to admit that this was an awesome race despite the anticlimactic finish. Great racing all day." I agree; like I said, there was very intense racing all race long. Three wide for multiple rows back throughout nearly the whole race. However, I'm sure there will be some people whining about how much this race sucked because it finished under yellow. I personally don't believe an anti-climactic finish doesn't destroy a race or make it a poor race, but I guess it does for some people... 428. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 5:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I personally don't believe an anti-climactic finish doesn't destroy a race or make it a poor race, but I guess it does for some people... " Er, what I meant to say is that I don't believe an anti-climactic finish destroys a race or makes it a bad one. Good grief, do I make some bad typoes sometimes! 429. cjs3872 posted: 05.04.2014 - 5:02 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) And exactly what could he have done, NicoRosbergFan? He was well more than a car length behind when the caution came out. He had nothing for Hamlin at he finish. Had the race run green to the checkers, it would have finished exactly as it did because nobody had anything for Hamlin at the very end. His only shot would have been to wait until the last turn, which he may have been trying to do, but the caution caught him at the end, and that's something nobody can have a strategy for. And if he does pull out of line, with nothing but Toyotas behind him (all the Fords except the #17 of Stenhouse were out of the race by then, and he was nowhere near the front), he would have gone straight backwards. He did the right thing, and really the only thing he could do, given the manufacturer sandwich he was the meat of. In last year's Daytona 500, he was in the exact same box, running second behind a Chevrolet (Jimmie Johnson) and only other Chevrolets and Mark Martin's Toyota behind him, so he had no choice but to follow and hope to get one shot on the last turn. It didn't work out for him then, but I think it worked out the best it could have for him today, other than a possible last turn move, but the Toyotas were going to hang him out and follow Hamlin to the finish for a possible 1-2, or even a 1-2-3 finish for Toyota. Biffle was essentially in jail with no other competitive Fords left in the race. 430. Jarrett88fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 5:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yeah the best drivers in the world wait until the yellow lights or checkered flag to make their move. Realistically, the debris near the finish line was extremely hazardous. Some of us on here have seen way too many races to know that the yellow wouldn't fly which is even more reason why you have to try and win...Cassill and Busch nearly got hooked up. 431. SpeedWorld97 posted: 05.04.2014 - 5:04 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) I forgot that next weekend's race is in Kansas.The way NASCAR screwed Darlington out of their Mother's Day slot, I'm seriously considering not watching next weekend's Cup race at Kansas. 432. startandparkfan posted: 05.04.2014 - 5:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Dissapointing ending, but happy for Hamlin. I was really hoping Cassill would win, but at least he got his first top 10. Not the best luck for most of the underdogs, McDowell, Whitt, Sorenson, Gilliland, Ragan, Bowman, Allgaier, Annett, and Bayne all had bad luck. Hopefully one of them will win the Coke Zero 400. 433. Jarrett88fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 5:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) #RestoreLandonstopten! 434. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 5:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "That Kansas race is an event." - Michael Waltrip Yeah, the Spring Night Race at Kansas is totally a classic. 435. startandparkfan posted: 05.04.2014 - 5:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Never mind, I guess Cassill is not in the top 10 :( 436. Destroyahirismix666 posted: 05.04.2014 - 5:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Saturdya, half of all NASCAR fans will revolt and not watch the Kansas Night Race just because Darlington got screwed out of it's Mother's Day weekend date. I'll still watch it, as I do expect a good (not great) race, but the only way to get Darlington back in that slot, or make Kansas lose a date would be to buy tickets for Darlington and not Kansas. If you can't do that, then don't complain, the situation is out of your control. 437. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 05.04.2014 - 5:11 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Still waiting for the Dinger interview. Meanwhile they interviewed Jr. for redefining 'riding around'. Ugh. 438. epzik8 posted: 05.04.2014 - 5:24 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) So Joe Gibbs' #11 won both races this weekend. 439. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.04.2014 - 5:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ""some who were disgusting pieces of crap (Gilles Villeneuve)" Wha-wha-what? Because ONE f**king mistake, which was actually RACING instead of letting someone else win? Really? Was he worse than bitches like Alonso or assholes like Lauda or Piquet? Don't think so. " Apparently you've never read the full story. As much as I love Curtis Turner, Curtis Turner was a head case. Gilles Villeneuve was Curtis Turner on steroids and oxycodone. Villeneuve was a hell of a lot worse. Not many people can say they died out of vicious, passionate hatred that drove them to the point of insanity. 440. joey2448 posted: 05.04.2014 - 5:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Anticlimactic finish, but great race. Felt exactly like last year's Indianapolis 500. We fans really have nothing to complain about. 441. The Long Shot posted: 05.04.2014 - 6:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I feel a lot more satisfied with the ending of this race than the ending of the last 'Dega race. Not sure why I feel that way, but I do. I didn't see what sort of damage Ryan Truex suffered from the Edwards crash, how was he involved? 442. Jarrett88fan posted: 05.04.2014 - 6:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Even with an anticlimactic finish, this race was an overall entertaining affair. A slightly above average Talladega race is better than 10-15 other races during the course of the season. 443. RaceFanX posted: 05.04.2014 - 6:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Josh Wise brings the #98 Dogecoin Ford home with a top-20! That thing actually looked really sharp on the track, here's hoping we might see more crowdfunded sponsors in the future. I don't know if Gilles Villenueve can really be put in the same league of crazy as Curtis Turner. Villenueve did let his anger get the best of him in a horrible way but he never landed an airplane in the middle of a town just to buy some beer and take off again. 444. Schroeder51 posted: 05.04.2014 - 6:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) How come the cautions and lead changes aren't listed? 445. Anonymous posted: 05.04.2014 - 7:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Did the cup of chicken make it through the lap 176 wreck? 446. We need more Onion posted: 05.04.2014 - 7:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Apparently you've never read the full story. As much as I love Curtis Turner, Curtis Turner was a head case. Gilles Villeneuve was Curtis Turner on steroids and oxycodone. Villeneuve was a hell of a lot worse. Not many people can say they died out of vicious, passionate hatred that drove them to the point of insanity. " I messed up, indeed. Gilles's mistake was sticking to an agreement with his friend and not racing. I reversed the roles in my head for some reason. That hatred was rather a need to show everyone that he is the faster driver and he died because of it, but even that is a speculation only... Forghieri says that the lap he wrecked was a shakedown. He crashed because his reflexes were twice or thrice as fast as other drivers'. And driven to the point of insanity? According to Mauro Forghieri, he was as composed as always, the day he died. Would love to hear your story and explanation how was he worse human being than Lauda or Hawthorn. 447. numbah10hatah posted: 05.04.2014 - 7:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #95 sponsor: Jordan Truck Sales/Black Dragon Tools 448. Matt posted: 05.04.2014 - 7:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Not only would I root for a Cassill or Ragan or etc to win this race because I like an underdog, but boy would I love NASCAR to see the headline "Ragan a virtual lock in the 2014 chase" and see how fans feel about that. STUPID points system. Imo 449. Destroyahirismix666 posted: 05.04.2014 - 8:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) (The idea of Ragan in the chase enters head) GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH I'm not going to watch another f*cking race if that happens. 450. Daniel posted: 05.04.2014 - 8:19 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Go Gordon! 451. Bronco posted: 05.04.2014 - 8:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Worst Talladega finish ever. When was the last time a part time driver won a Cup pole? 452. murb posted: 05.04.2014 - 8:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "STUPID points system. Imo" I agree, but now that Talladega is behind us, I'm pretty sure we don't really have to worry that much about a low-tier driver pulling an upset and stealing a Chase spot. The road courses and Daytona in July are really the only opportunities for somebody to score an upset (barring a fuel mileage miracle at Michigan or something, but it's been quite a while since we've seen someone steal one that way). But even then, Daytona in July usually produces a "legit" winner, and the road courses are pretty wide open as almost every upper-echelon Cup driver can contend on them nowadays. So I'll be surprised if we see a backmarker steal a win and get into the Chase. 453. Cornys posted: 05.04.2014 - 8:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Great race, and the finish doesn't matter. Right call with the yellow flag. Qualifying? Do a 25 min. group session, then line-up for heats (2-4 races of ~10 laps since it's not the 500). This would give good plate drivers and cars the chance to race into the field and earn a good qualifying position if they deserve it. That would be less random and more exciting all in one, and it wouldn't take any longer to complete. Give the fans something to cheer about :) 454. Cornys posted: 05.04.2014 - 8:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And, to follow up on my last comment, just do that qualifying format at all of the tracks please. The multi-session qualifying on an oval.. just doesn't fit. Keep it for road courses. I do like the idea for road courses. 455. Anonymous posted: 05.04.2014 - 8:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Last caution: #23, 31, 48, 51 accident frontstretch. If not this, it should probably be listed as "debris frontstretch." 456. cjs3872 posted: 05.04.2014 - 8:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Probably not as long as you think, Bronco. I know that Ryan Newman won the pole for the 2001 Coca-Cola 600 as a part-time driver, and Boris Said won the pole for the Firecracker 400 in the mid-2000s as a part-timer. And even Denny Hamlin won the pole at Phoenix in late-2005 before he became a full-time driver in the Cup Series. And I want to expand on the point I made in post #429 about Greg Biffle being stuck because of the fact that he was in a Ford and the other three finishers in the top four were all in Toyotas. There was a radio communication between Denny Hamlin and his crew chief on just that matter, and he was reminded that if he took the inside line on that final restart, that behind him would be the 16, 15, and 55, in that order. What that meant was that if he cleared the car on the outside on the restart, that he was essentially home free if there wasn't another caution because Biffle could not make a move on him because the two cars behind him were not going to go with him, but rather follow Hamlin since both Clint Bowyer and Brian Vickers are, like Hamlin, Toyota drivers, so the manufacturer issue even played into late-race strategy. And with Biffle being such a good pusher and having such a fast car (he led the most laps in this race), Hamlin and his team played that strategy to perfection, because Biffle pushed Hamlin ahead, but then was essentially locked in second place with two more Toyotas behind him, so Hamlin went unchallenged the rest of the way. Now had NASCAR called for the caution when Justin Allgaier spun out, which was just before the leaders took the white flag, then as they say, anything could have happened with an impending GWC finish. 457. jabber1990 posted: 05.04.2014 - 8:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "When was the last time a part time driver won a Cup pole?" this probably doesn't answer your question but I belive in 2003 Boris Said took the pole at Infineon/Sonoma/Sears Point whatever its called 458. jabber1990 posted: 05.04.2014 - 9:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I am going to beat a dead horse here Jimmie and Edwards spun by themselves, so I believe that Brad did the same thing now about the ending. I have told this to nascar Memes and the NASCAR 24/7 talk facebook pages IF they threw the caution for a single-car spin that later recovered from the spin then imagine the fan backlash so NASCAR decided to let the finish finish out naturally, unfortunately that backfired because they had debris on the frontstretch. 459. 23andJoe posted: 05.04.2014 - 9:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Worst Talladega finish ever." Some people have short memories. 460. Evan W. posted: 05.04.2014 - 9:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) * Brad Keselowski made some questionable moves in the race, in the first part he drives over in front of Danica Patrick and she pretty much dumps him because he let off and was too impatient. Then after the fixed the junk heap, he goes six laps down and he's pretty much in the way and then the second big one is caused by driver error on his part and took out most of the remaining cars who could have posed a threat to Hamlin. Brad has lost something in the recent years he had when he won the title. He is driving way over his head as if he is trying to compensate for something, he won at Vegas but the rest of the year has been feast of famine * Anyone know the reason why Hendrick trannies were so fragile with the overheating problems? It seemed like they had the cars engines set for a much cooler day and it seemed like they were gonna have problems with heating. * Hamlin winning a plate race is a little weird, but with the run he at Daytona it does not really surprise me too much. The win is not surprising because he had the same car he had at Daytona and that car was fast. Junior had to give up his car to Daytona USA, had he had his 500 car he would have most likely won because the one he had here was okay. So its a bit understandable that Hamlin won this one because he had the car to beat at Daytona. * Sorry but IMO, these are not the best drivers in the world even when FOX wants you to think that, I hate when Darrell Waltrip uses that quote. There are so many great drivers and I don't even think NASCAR is always getting the best drivers it can get. I don't even think Jimmie Johnson is the best driver in this series or the world(to me Tony Stewart is the best driver in the series), and Johnson is a six time champ of this series. Question is would he be able to jump in an F1 car or a V8 Supercar and be competitive? That's the big question. Could he be competitive without Chad Knaus? 461. Jim Davis posted: 05.04.2014 - 10:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Sorry but IMO, these are not the best drivers in the world even when FOX wants you to think that, I hate when Darrell Waltrip uses that quote." On the other hand, I think it is perfectly fair to claim that these are some of the best drivers in the world. "There are so many great drivers and I don't even think NASCAR is always getting the best drivers it can get." I think NASCAR is certainly getting the best drivers the United States is producing and has been for the past 20 years. "I don't even think Jimmie Johnson is the best driver in this series or the world(to me Tony Stewart is the best driver in the series), and Johnson is a six time champ of this series." I think Johnson is better than Stewart *at present* because Stewart has fallen off somewhat since his incredible 2011 run. Johnson is certainly in the top five and probably top two or three in NASCAR. Who's the best in NASCAR is always debatable but Kyle Busch is the most talented. "Question is would he be able to jump in an F1 car or a V8 Supercar and be competitive?" Could Hamilton or Whincup jump in a Sprint Cup car and be competitive? I don't think questions like these prove much. 462. cjs3872 posted: 05.04.2014 - 10:04 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Evan W, while I don't think Brad should have been up there, because of the number of laps he was behind, he was hardly in the way of those right behind him. In fact, I think Trevor Bayne WANTED Brad in front of him at that time, because he was significantly faster than Bayne and could pull that line toward the front. (Trevor usually doesn't like being the lead driver of a drafting group, anyway.) Brad was as fast as anyone at that particular point in the race, to the point where he was doing Trevor and those behind him a real favor by pulling them up toward the front, because before Brad pulled up in front of Bayne, Bayne and the guys behind him were dropping like a rock, so it stands to reason that Bayne wanted someone else in front of him to pull him up toward the leaders, and Brad happened to be that driver. Nobody could figure out why Brad spun by himself, though I suspect it had to do with a tire problem of some sort. Remember that the reason Brad lost so many laps was not damage to the car, but rather to repair the cooling system, which was damaged. But the car itself didn't seem to be damaged at all. But Brad's spin leads to another odd point about this race (and race weekend) that I think bears watching for future Talladega races. In today's race at Talladega, we saw three of the best drivers lose it on their own, with no help from anyone. Brad lost it off turn four, and Jimmie Johnson and Carl Edwards suffered a similar fate later on in the race. Jimmie's may have had to do with damage from the crash that Keselowski began exiting turn four, and Edwards' problem was caused by a tire problem. But let's also not forget Brian Scott's adventures from yesterday, because he was having problems keeping the car headed the right way yesterday, nearly losing it in front of the entire field once, and then bobbling again, which was the beginning of that big crash when Bayne tapped Scott. Could it be that the teams have, for too long, ignored the handling aspect of the cars at Talladega, and that we're seeing handling become a factor at Talladega now, which the teams have not had to deal with for so long that they've seemed to have forgotten about the handling of the cars at Talladega. I say this because of the number of top cars in both the NNS and Cup races that seemed to have handling problems this weekend that we haven't seen at Talladega in years. Perhaps it's time that the teams start to focus more on the handling of the cars at Talladega, because that seemed to be lacking for quite a number of cars this weekend, and that may change how the races are run at Talladega in future years, not to mention the chase race there later this year. 463. Mike posted: 05.04.2014 - 10:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "When was the last time a part time driver won a Cup pole?" Mark Martin had six or seven poles in 2012-2013 in the #55. 464. Eric posted: 05.04.2014 - 10:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) cjs3872, The thing is Brad was force to race with the leads because of the free pass. Brad and Jamie had the same amount of laps down at the time of the big one. Lets remember that Jamie was 6 or 7 laps down at one time, but was only 1 lap down at the end of the race because of the lucky dog. What you seen with Brad is something you will see because how close two could be for a free pass when a caution comes unless NASCAR gets a rid of the lucky dog for plate races. 465. Aframe43 posted: 05.04.2014 - 10:50 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) CJS, what do you have against Trevor Bayne? Every single post you make about him disparages him in some manner. 466. Mr X posted: 05.04.2014 - 11:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I remember Joe Nemechek won the pole for this very race in 2008 driving for Barney Visser, technically they were attempting a full season but they did DNQ for 4 races during the year. I seem to recall they won the pole because they removed one of the engine's accessory drive belts, freeing up a little bit of power that would've otherwise been used to spin the accessory, I believe it was the alternator, but I could be wrong. 467. cjs3872 posted: 05.05.2014 - 12:02 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Agreed, Eric. I really had no problem with him running with the leaders because, at that time, he wasn't doing anything rash, nor was he holding anyone up. Quite the contrary. Guys like Trevor Bayne and those that were behind him were quite happy to have Brad pulling them toward the leaders, because with Bayne leading that group, they were dropping like a rock, but with a faster car (Keselowski) pulling them, they were moving back to the front, so I don't think they had any problem with Brad being in front of them, as long as he was helping them, which he certainly was until his car inexplicably spun out, taking Bayne and about 10 others with him. But there was nothing leading up to that to indicate that Brad was going to have a problem. And A-frame43, what did I say this time against Bayne? That he doesn't like being the one leading the train? It's pretty well established (and he's even admitted) that he doesn't like being the one doing the pulling, but likes it better when someone else is doing the pulling. And he's certainly not alone in that regard. Do the names Benny Parsons, Ricky Rudd, and Terry Labonte ring a bell? They didn't like to lead all that much on speedways either, and would rather prefer someone else be the one leading them. And the last time I checked, they did pretty well on speedways, particularly Parsons and Labonte, even though none of those drivers won very much on them. 468. Anonymous posted: 05.05.2014 - 6:00 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Eric at the time of the big one brad is 6 laps down and jamie 5 469. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.05.2014 - 6:48 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Go Gordon! " Got to give it to the guy: at least he's passionate. 470. cjs3872 posted: 05.05.2014 - 11:19 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Not to change the subject, but it seems that some things never change. Last night, Kyle Busch was cited for speeding AGAIN (this time getting caught going 60 in a 45 MPH zone), and according to the police report, he was disrespectful (as usual) toward the officer. I know that he's calmed it down a little, but I wonder just how much more of this kind of thing will Joe Gibbs be able to stomach before he does something about this himself. And this just after Gibbs' #11 team finds it's way back to victory lane. I said I , but if I were Gibbs, I would have fired Kyle after his last speeding episode, and although this one isn't nearly on as grand a scale (I don't know what would be on that grand a scale), his attitude toward the officer, if the report is to be believed, is what's appalling, and again shows that Kyle Busch seems to have no respect for authority, and I think Gibbs should consider some kind of action. What that action should be, I don't know. 471. Seagal posted: 05.05.2014 - 11:42 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) A racecar driver caught speeding? Unbelievable. I think it's safe to say most people who get a speeding ticket aren't in the best mood. Gibbs has "stomached" worse than this. I'm sure they'll make it through this horror. P.S. My sister got a speeding ticket 2 weeks ago. I think my family should disown her. 472. 1995 Subaru WRX STi posted: 05.05.2014 - 12:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'd like too give a shout out too the crowd that showed up yesterday at Talladega. That is the most full i've seen Dega in some time. "We fans really have nothing to complain about." You realize that is impossible right? 473. MStall41 posted: 05.05.2014 - 12:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) CJS, handling has actually been a big factor at the plate races since the introduction of the Gen 6 car, its just only now starting to be reported and it certainly seems to be becoming a more widespread issue. I think it is something that bodes quite well for the racing at both tracks. 474. Jim Davis posted: 05.05.2014 - 12:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "...and I think Gibbs should consider some kind of action." I think an interesting "kind of action" would be to arrange a driver swap with Cole Whitt or Landon Cassill. I don't suppose Joe Falk would be pleased to think that driving for Circle K would be considered a form of punishment but feedback from an elite driver like Busch would be valuable for that team. And, of course, drivers like Cassill, Whitt, Bowman, etc would love to show what they could do in a competitive ride. It might be tricky to arrange but I see this as a win for everyone. Gibbs gets to show Busch who's boss while a underfunded team and driver get once in a lifetime opportunities. 475. Eric posted: 05.05.2014 - 1:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) CJS3872, Kyle didn't speed last night according to Jayski's website. The website mentioned Kyle was cited for speeding on April 29th. The source Jayski used even said April 29th. 476. Anonymous posted: 05.05.2014 - 2:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bowyer has signed an extension with MWR 477. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.05.2014 - 2:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "The thing is Brad was force to race with the leads because of the free pass. Brad and Jamie had the same amount of laps down at the time of the big one." Actually Jamie was 5 laps down at the time, the only way for Brad get a lap back was do what he did(and we all saw how that ended) or take the wave around. Either way racing the leaders like he was was dumb though to his credit he did own up to it. "Not to change the subject, but it seems that some things never change. Last night, Kyle Busch was cited for speeding AGAIN (this time getting caught going 60 in a 45 MPH zone), and according to the police report, he was disrespectful (as usual) toward the officer. I know that he's calmed it down a little, but I wonder just how much more of this kind of thing will Joe Gibbs be able to stomach before he does something about this himself." *sigh* That seems to be the theme with Kyle sadly, for every step forward he takes in the maturity department he takes two more steps backwards. 478. cjs3872 posted: 05.05.2014 - 2:23 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Regardless of when the incident took place Eric, it's not his speeding that bothers me this time as much as his lack of respect for authority does, because if the reports are to be believed, he showed disrespect toward an officer of the law, and that kind of thing can't be tolerated, especially for someone like Joe Gibbs, who's always been among the classiest of people. 60 in a 45 MPH zone is not egregious. Heck, the transit bus drivers were I live speed worse than that (50 in a school zone on a divided road in a residential area, for example). What bothers me here is his conduct after he was stopped. That's the thing that can't be tolerated, either by his sponsors, team, or by NASCAR itself, and how many times is he going to pull stuff like this before one or more of those entities finally put their foot down on him. 479. murb posted: 05.05.2014 - 2:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It should be interesting to see how M&M's handles this, because weren't they on some sort of "zero tolerance" thing with Kyle after all of his 2011 incidents? Surely they can't be happy about this. And as for Kyle, I've pretty much lost faith in him. He's capable of being a multiple time Cup champion, but I honestly don't see him even winning one in his career. He burns himself out in these minor league races, and in Cup it seems that he's regressed as a talent when logically he should be getting better and better at this point (he just turned 29). And now, perhaps most importantly, with his second speeding incident and apparent argument with a cop (I'm no fan of most cops myself, but it's REALLY stupid and unnecessary to instigate stuff with them - they will always win in the end), it seems he still has the anger problems and personal issues that were plaguing him a few years ago. So much for the "new and improved" Kyle Busch. I'm not sure if JGR and/or Nascar will do anything other than fine him, but if M&M's says "We've dealt with this long enough, we're leaving", then I think Kyle's racing career could very well take a downward spiral, a lot like his brother's did after his falling out with Penske. Kyle should have learned from Kurt's ordeal, but evidently he hasn't. 480. joey2448 posted: 05.05.2014 - 4:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This, according to Jayski: "Busch said he thought the speed limit was 55 mph. The officer commented in the police report that Busch had a "disrespectful attitude." Now, I have never been one to argue with authority. I've been pulled over for speeding two or three times myself, so I'm not perfect, but to me, this sounds like a police officer construing the truth. When I hear the words in a police report that Busch had a "disrespectful attitude", that to me sounds like the officer may be stretching the truth, that he may be abusing his power. It seems so easy for an officer to say that a driver showed "disrespect" and suddenly it turns into a big deal. If Kyle Busch really was being a punk ass (and I wouldn't be surprised), then I'll admit that I was wrong. But that's just what it sounds like to me. 481. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.05.2014 - 4:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Since no one else has said it, I will point out that Denny Hamlin will become the first driver to make the Chase without running all 26 pre-Chase races. 482. numbah10hatah posted: 05.05.2014 - 5:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kansas Entry List: Ryan Blaney in the #12 David Stremme in the #33 Joe Nemechek in the #66 #35, #87, #21, #95 not entered. 483. luigistarted06 posted: 05.05.2014 - 5:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ryan Blaney may very well knock his father out of the show next weekend 484. numbah10hatah posted: 05.05.2014 - 5:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Forgot about Travis Kvapil in the #32. 485. cjs3872 posted: 05.05.2014 - 6:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That, joey2448, is why I added the phrase "if the report is to be believed", because sometimes the police will try to embellish the situation, and even aggravate it. But if the reports are to be believed, then I think something has to be done regarding Kyle, though exactly what, I don't know. But if the police embellished the story, and aggravated the issue to try to gain fame, as is sometimes the case in high-profile stops, then that says something about the officer and even the department involved in the stop, and their possible attempt to gain fame at the expense of a high-profile individual, which Kyle Busch is. After all, I have a hard time believing that once the officer stopped Kyle, that he didn't know who it was that he had stopped, and if he did embellish the story, and possibly even aggravated the situation, then that does not speak highly of the officer in question. 486. 1995 Subaru WRX STi posted: 05.05.2014 - 7:45 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Camping World is resigning as the main title sponser for the Truck series until 2022. Good news, very good news. 487. TS1420 posted: 05.05.2014 - 8:24 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) A day late and only got to see the last 25 laps off the race. -While the finish was a bit of a let down, the caution was warranted and at least drivers were still giving 100% at the end (well, except maybe Biffle). Unlike last fall were they gave up and went single file during the final 15 laps. -Congrats to Denny Hamlin on the win. It's weird though, he's been non-existent on short tracks this season and the man to beat at the plate races this season. -Smoke in a wreck and from what I heard, was having overheating issues and a non-threat before the wreck.... FFS, this is getting depressing. -I'm Jimmie Johnson. BOOM! I spin out unassisted on a bi-monthly basis, yet I'm supposed to be the GOAT. -I see the yearly "Kyle Busch Needs Fired" wagon has showed up. 60mph in a 45? Yeah, I bet all the people calling for Kyle's head on a stick job are saints and never go over the limit. And a Armed Revenue Collector Cop embellishing facts to make a speeder look worse? Yeah. That /never/ happens. 488. murb posted: 05.05.2014 - 9:02 pm Rate this comment: (1) (2) It's absolutely possible that the officer embellished the situation. A pretty significant portion of the cops here in America are nothing but power hungry assholes that don't care about serving the people, but rather getting their own jollies out of citing/arresting people. So it's entirely possible that that's what happened here with Kyle. But I think it's also very possible that Kyle did indeed "have an attitude". If you were to ask me to make a list of current Nascar drivers that I could see having a verbal altercation with a cop at a traffic stop, Kyle would probably be #1 on the list. He's shown himself quite a bit to have an entitled attitude in his racing career, so I have no reason to believe that he wouldn't be like that in his personal life either. Who knows though. It could very well be either scenario. All I know is that it's gonna be really interesting to see what M&M's does about this, because they made it clear a couple years ago that Kyle was on pretty thin ice with them. Maybe this will be the final straw for them. 489. cjs3872 posted: 05.05.2014 - 9:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) TS1420, all the cars with Hendrick engines were having substantial overheating problems, including all four HMS cars, all four SHR cars, and even the #51 car driven by Justin Allgaier, which has a Hendrick engine, was having an overheating problem, so I wouldn't put much stock into that affecting tony Stewart's run. He was just biding his time in the back, which he usually does, and he simply got caught in the first big wreck like so many others did. But again, how can you say that Greg Biffle wasn't doing his best, because he was essentially in jail, running second behind a Toyota with two more Toyotas directly behind him. The only thing he could do was exactly what he did. He knew that if he tried to pass that the MWR cars would hang him out and go with their Toyota colleague, so his only chance was to stay in second and possibly make a run on the final straightaway, but the caution prevented that from happening. In last year's Daytona 500, in which many criticized his not trying to pass Jimmie Johnson, he was caught in the exact same vice, but then he was caught between Chevrolets (Jimmie in front of him and Danica and Dale, Jr. behind him) and making any move until the final straightaway would have been foolish on his part. And every possible Ford that could have assisted Biffle was out of the race, almost all due to crashes, and the two other competitive Fords (Stenhouse and Almirola) were too far back to be of any assistance to him. And I know that many on this board wondered, along with myself, why Dale, Jr. didn't make a run in those last 70 miles. There were two reasons for that. First, he wanted to avoid the predictable mayhem, which he was able to do. But there's another factor as to why he was essentially a non-factor on Sunday, and it's something nobody seems to be talking about, but it's quite possible, given his recent history there, as well as his concussion history, that Dale, Jr. was afraid of being involved in a crash there at those speeds, especially since he knew crashes were going to happen. So what he decided to do was to get his car across in one piece so that it could run in the Firecracker 400 in July, and as importantly, not risk injury (such as another concussion) in such a crash. He knew he wouldn't finish among the leaders with that tactic, but I don't think he intended to when he saw that the racing was getting hairy at the end, and instead decided to save his car so it could run again at Daytona in July. He was looking at the bigger picture, since he already has a win this season, though I do think there will be at least 16 winners by early September, unlike most other people. After all, Denny Hamlin became the eighth different winner this season, and with other stars such as Jimmie Johnson, the reigning champion, and the top two in the points, Jeff Gordon and Matt Kenseth, among those without a win this season, and with the road courses coming up, which figures to favor A.J. Allmendinger and Marcos Ambrose, I think there's a better chance than many others tend to think of there being 16+ winners by the 26th race. I'm predicting right now that there will be a driver that wins a race in the first 26 races that will not make the Chase, and maybe more than one. 490. Matt posted: 05.06.2014 - 12:41 am Rate this comment: (3) (0) Ok for anyone that has the full race broadcast...towards the end of the race DW has one of the worst analogies ever said on television. And I quote: "Dale Jr. knew what was gonna happen...it was so...almost..clear as...mud" pause for 5 seconds Larry Mac: "Clear as mud??" DW: "Thats not too clear is it" no it is not darrell 491. An Aussie Commentator posted: 05.06.2014 - 12:55 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) We now have 10 different Last-place finishers in the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series in 2014. 492. NazRacePhan posted: 05.06.2014 - 9:31 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) NASCAR cup race #2400!! 493. Anonymous posted: 05.06.2014 - 2:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) No matter what, there will be a Blaney in this weekends race. I have a feeling Dave will be the lone DNQ. 494. joey2448 posted: 05.06.2014 - 3:01 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Post 492 -- Wow that means I've watched over 400 live Cup races in my life, because I'm pretty sure I remember the 2003 spring race at Darlington (Ricky Craven and Kurt Busch finish) being the 2,000th Cup race... 495. Sean posted: 05.06.2014 - 3:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "But even then, Daytona in July usually produces a 'legit' winner, and the road courses are pretty wide open as almost every upper-echelon Cup driver can contend on them nowadays. So I'll be surprised if we see a backmarker steal a win and get into the Chase." Sam McQuagg? Greg Sacks (got away with cheating)? Jimmy Spencer (got away with cheating)? Michael Waltrip? David Ragan? I don't see how that race is any "better" than any of the other plate races in this regard. In fact, I'd argue it's worse given the way Sacks and Spencer won. "And to follow up on my last comment, just do that qualifying format at all of the tracks please. The multi-session qualifying on an oval.. just doesn't fit. Keep it for road courses. I do like the idea for road courses." I think I like group qualifying for ovals in general but don't like it for plate tracks specifically. For plate tracks (and possibly short tracks), I'd prefer heats, but not for the intermediates... *Sorry but IMO, these are not the best drivers in the world even when FOX wants you to think that, I hate when Darrell Waltrip uses that quote." Yeah, it's tiresome that NASCAR holds such a monopoly on racing in this country that they have managed to convince the American public that racing = NASCAR (part of it is that F1 and IndyCar (under EVERY sanctioning body) did not know how to market itself here) and that no other form of racing is worth talking about or discussing. Closely related is the argument that money attracts talent as money provides an incentive to increase performance and competition, which is maybe a bit of a point but not a tremendously great one. I can't imagine IndyCar drivers, sports car drivers, touring car drivers, drag racers, sprint car drivers, etc... are any less competitive despite smaller prize money than F1 or NASCAR drivers. The teams may be less competitive for smaller pots, but the drivers aren't. It's just that certain pursuits are valued by society and others are not, and it can be pretty random. For instance, I won $2,000 for winning the Ultimate Typing Championship at the SXSW Interactive Conference in 2010. Austin Wierschke won $50,000 back-to-back years for winning a texting competition shortly thereafter. Is texting worth 25 times as much as typing is? Is he a better texter than I am a typist? Is the size of a pot really a way of proving anything like this? All it reflects is how well a competition is marketed. Admittedly, MORE drivers will want to compete in series with big money, but that doesn't at all mean that the best F1/NASCAR drivers are NECESSARILY better than those in other series SOLELY because more drivers are competing for the limited spots. It means that the market happens to reward those skills over skills in other disciplines that aren't necessarily *objectively* inferior. Are top-tier scientists less skilled at what they do than top-tier athletes solely because society doesn't reward them quite as much financially? I've never bought those arguments, but many, many people do. There's probably a bit of a point, but "money attracts talent" is way too simplistic for me... "On the other hand, I think it is perfectly fair to claim that these are some of the best drivers in the world." But I also agree with that. A list of the best drivers in the world would certainly include some NASCAR drivers, along with some F1 drivers, IndyCar drivers, rally racers, sports car drivers, touring car drivers, drag racers, sprint car drivers, etc..., etc..., etc... A balanced list would reflect MANY disciplines of racing. It's annoying that in the US, people act like NASCAR is the only one. (But it's also equally annoying that internationally, way too many people act like Formula One is the only valid racing series...) The best-marketed series will always have some of the best talents, but not all of them. "I think NASCAR is certainly getting the best drivers the United States is producing and has been for the past 20 years." I'd put Ryan Hunter-Reay and Jordan Taylor up against anybody in Cup at what they do, and they would both be on my list of "best 43 drivers in the world" along with certainly a number of Cup guys. More American talent gravitates towards NASCAR because that is where the money is, so most of the top American drivers will be in NASCAR. Certainly not all of them though. And most of the American IndyCar drivers/prospects who have shown promise have either had terrible equipment (Josef Newgarden) or never really got a real chance (Buddy Rice (even after winning the Indy 500), Jon Fogarty, Alex Gurney, Joey Hand, etc..., etc...) In IndyCar, American talent is seen as inferior unfortunately in part due to the ridiculous overhyping of Danica, Marco (who's actually pretty good now), and Graham as the star Americans even though all three of them had a history of underachieving relative to their equipment. Who knows if somebody like Jon Fogarty could have won an IndyCar title or not given the same level of opportunity they had? It's possible... "I think Johnson is better than Stewart *at present* because Stewart has fallen off somewhat since his incredible 2011 run. Johnson is certainly in the top five and probably top two or three in NASCAR. Who's the best in NASCAR is always debatable but Kyle Busch is the most talented." Johnson > Stewart, period. And I'd probably even say that as an overall racing talent, even with the 'Hendrick bonus'. Stewart competed against nobody of significance in their prime in the IRL except Kenny Brack (Luyendyk was basically washed up, or would have been in a full field) and then lost to Brack the only season they both ran full-time (before Brack got beaten by Stewart's replacement Greg Ray in the same cars, and Ray is now the butt of jokes...) Stewart was a dominant sprint car driver, but Johnson was a dominant off-road driver (not quite AS dominant I'll admit). Since most of both of their careers have been in Cup anyway, it's hard to argue other series matter much. Stewart largely stopped racing anything outside Cup (except occasional sprint car races) ages ago, and even Jimmie Johnson has been seen more at the 24 Hours of Daytona and the Race of Champions than Stewart, to name a couple of examples. I don't really think Johnson is any less diverse than Stewart, except he's a worse road racer. But road racing isn't everything, and I think Stewart would be much worse at the off-road stuff... More to the point, I kinda think Jimmie Johnson could have won a shallow IRL title against a very weak field without winning the Indy 500 in a dominant Menard car too... "Could Hamilton or Whincup jump in a Sprint Cup car and be competitive? I don't think questions like these prove much." Very few drivers could in any other discipline. I agree with you that Cup has several drivers I would consider globally elite, but I certainly disagree that it and F1 have most of them. I'll grant Cup has most of the Americans, but Hunter-Reay and Taylor impress me more than the vast majority of drivers in Cup, even if they'd both fail at Cup due to not having the right experience. (MAN, do I want to see Jordan Taylor as a road course ringer for some bad Chevy team though...it'd be AWESOME.) 496. Sean posted: 05.06.2014 - 3:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Regardless of when the incident took place Eric, it's not his speeding that bothers me this time as much as his lack of respect for authority does" Lots of people have a lack of respect for authority figures. While I would certainly obey a police officer, I despise many politicians, lawyers, media talking heads, pundits, professors, guidance counselors, meddlesome bureaucrats, meddlesome yuppie neighbors, etc... Basically anyone who attempts to meddle in people's lives, especially someone acting in a very smug manner about it (and don't think I'm espousing any political philosophy when I say this, as EVERY political affiliation has irritating figures attached in almost every one of these categories...) While I would hold a police officer to a higher standard than that, if this particular officer is another Arpaio type and Kyle thinks he's being used as an example the way Kurt was back in '04, I can understand his frustration and accept it more than a lot of other stuff he's done (somehow this bothers me a lot less than Kyle punting Casey Mears under a red flag...) Don't get me wrong. I wouldn't behave this way, but I get it and he's certainly done worse. And even everything the Busch brothers have done pales in comparison to Al Unser, Jr.'s stuff which most people brushed under the rug (and people STILL try to argue he was "classy" to this day). "In Cup it seems that he's regressed as a talent when logically he should be getting better and better at this point (he just turned 29)." Weirdly, I both agree and disagree with this statement. While I am more impressed with a driver who dominates and runs up front constantly at any kind of track than a driver who plays it safe, Kyle Busch this season has learned to play it safe. The Cup points system's perverse incentives to drastically overrate consistency reward drivers who finish better than they actually ran in the race. While nobody who respects domination over consistency would call this Kyle's best season, he IS having his best average finish and he's doing an outstanding job of finishing better than he actually ran, something he has not done before. This could easily get him a championship if he keeps it up. Of course, now that they've made winning suddenly more paramount than it once was with the chase eliminations, this may backfire on him. "I'm predicting right now that there will be a driver that wins a race in the first 26 races that will not make the Chase, and maybe more than one." I'm predicting right now that there will be a driver who doesn't win a race in the first 26 races that will make the chase, and maybe more than one. "Ok for anyone that has the full race broadcast...towards the end of the race DW has one of the worst analogies ever said on television." I was most shocked when I heard the three guys in the booth (including Mike Joy who should know better, and DW, who was actually THERE) say that Bill Elliott came from 3 laps down to win at Talladega in 1987, the same year he set the all-time speed record, when the fact that he came from almost two laps down to win in 1985 was (I thought) ordinary and basic knowledge. Maybe not all fans should know it, but all announcers should. I muted at that point and didn't hear said analogy. "Post 492 -- Wow that means I've watched over 400 live Cup races in my life, because I'm pretty sure I remember the 2003 spring race at Darlington (Ricky Craven and Kurt Busch finish) being the 2,000th Cup race..." The Bristol race the next week was the 2000th, I believe... 497. Anonymous posted: 05.06.2014 - 3:43 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) NASCAR really took off in the mid 90s with that rule package. Why don't we just go back to that? Every race doesn't need to be a blockbuster event and every race doesn't need to be controversial. I like races to end with the dominant car winning, not the car who took 4 tires. I like guy to be in 17th to be a lap down to be racing his ass off to pass the leader, not some schmuck in 29th who took a wave around. I like to see the leader be the first one to the green flag, not the asshole in 2nd. I'd like to see the fastest car sit on the pole, not the one who brokered a deal with 5 other cars before the session starts. I want to see cars blowin motors and blowin tires racing for the lead. I want to see a car get loose and spin out and be out of the race, not f**king slide sideways for 300 yards and then get four fresh tires and restart 9th. I want to see strategy be gone and I want to see 50 cars show up per race. I want a lot of things but what I don't want to see is some BS like we see every weekend where nothing is sacred and the race ends in some dark twisted 8 year olds fantasy. Every race reminds me of playing guns with my friends, shooting someone either my fake gun, and them saying. " nah uh I got my anti gun shield up". Every race starts, runs, and ends with me saying to myself that this is BS and this will never happen in any other professional racing series ever. (posted by someone else on a racing forum, had to put it here too) 498. murb posted: 05.06.2014 - 4:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I don't see how that race is any "better" than any of the other plate races in this regard. In fact, I'd argue it's worse given the way Sacks and Spencer won." In the Chase era though, the only surprise winner has been David Ragan (and honestly, I don't think he was that much of a surprise since he was driving for Roush and also almost won the Daytona 500 that year). You could make an argument for Jamie McMurray in 2007 I guess too, but since then he's really become a maestro on the plate tracks, so in retrospect it doesn't really seem like a surprise win even though it might have at the time. But in recent years, Stewart, Harvick, Johnson, Kyle Busch, and a lot of the big name drivers have dominated that event, so I'm banking on that to happen again this year. 499. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.06.2014 - 4:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Johnson was hardly dominant in off-road trucks, but he was still damned good. FAR, FAR better then Stewie ever has been in sprint cars. 500. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.06.2014 - 4:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "NASCAR really took off in the mid 90s with that rule package. Why don't we just go back to that? Every race doesn't need to be a blockbuster event and every race doesn't need to be controversial. I like races to end with the dominant car winning, not the car who took 4 tires. I like guy to be in 17th to be a lap down to be racing his ass off to pass the leader, not some schmuck in 29th who took a wave around. I like to see the leader be the first one to the green flag, not the asshole in 2nd. I'd like to see the fastest car sit on the pole, not the one who brokered a deal with 5 other cars before the session starts. I want to see cars blowin motors and blowin tires racing for the lead. I want to see a car get loose and spin out and be out of the race, not f**king slide sideways for 300 yards and then get four fresh tires and restart 9th. I want to see strategy be gone and I want to see 50 cars show up per race. I want a lot of things but what I don't want to see is some BS like we see every weekend where nothing is sacred and the race ends in some dark twisted 8 year olds fantasy. Every race reminds me of playing guns with my friends, shooting someone either my fake gun, and them saying. " nah uh I got my anti gun shield up". Every race starts, runs, and ends with me saying to myself that this is BS and this will never happen in any other professional racing series ever. (posted by someone else on a racing forum, had to put it here too)" Am I the only person who would love to see the current level racing maintained whilst seeing reliability and gimmicks dwindle to the point that a race at Bristol could see a car win by 3 laps once again? ALMS drew 1.0s and higher for races that ended with multi-lap margin of victories because the guys were GOING FOR BROKEN. 501. MStall41 posted: 05.06.2014 - 7:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I've never really minded the lucky dog or wave around rule. I always thought it was weird back in the 90s when the "Gentleman's Agreement" was in place and the leader would just let a bunch of lapped cars go by. I DO however wish we could see racing back to the yellow again. The whole field is frozen at the moment of caution nonsense has buzzkilled countless races over the years and I really don't think its made anything all that much safer. There were only two or three close calls I can think of back before the field is frozen rule and I always thought NASCAR went full kneejerk on that one. 502. cjs3872 posted: 05.06.2014 - 8:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) MStall41, have you ever watched the 1983 Daytona 500? That race alone is reason enough why racing back to the caution was always a bad idea. There was one bad crash caused by that (Darrell Waltrip's crash) and there was nearly another serious crash caused by that (when the caution came out after Mark Martin's crash), and David Hobbs roundly criticized NASCAR for their procedure of racing to the caution after Waltrip's crash, and did so again after the mad dash following Martin's crash (when Joe Ruttman was weaving by slower cars to keep Neil Bonnett behind him). The procedure they have now is much better. I just wish they would get rid of the wave-around, because that gives drivers laps back that they have no business getting back. In fact, I wish they went back to the old rule of not letting cars get the free pass inside a certain number of laps remaining or on the road courses. and NicoRosbergFan, they actually had something like that at Indianapolis in the 1970s to prevent the field from bunching up during caution periods. It was called the P.A.C.E.R. light system. What happened was that, from the time caution lights were first installed in the mid 1930s (after the dreadfully tragic 1933 Indianapolis 500, when five participants were killed in the race), the cars hardly slowed down at all (except when the track was narrowed for a crash), and the only real requirement was that the drivers held their positions relative to the other cars, including holding the distance between cars. But as the cars got faster, it became obvious that the caution conditions were becoming unsafe for the track workers, so while USAC brought out the pace car for the Pocono 500 and later the California 500, the decided not to do that for the Indianapolis 500, and instead created the P.A.C.E.R. light system, which were caution lights designed to slow the cars down to under 100 MPH (they were going about 160 under caution in the 1971 Indy race). Each caution light had a single-digit number display that flicked every second (and they even had light beneath that to go off every quarter of a second), which kept the cars at precise intervals. The first time the P.A.C.E.R. lights were used at Indy, Mark Donohue won by nearly four laps, but that was the only time that the leader was the only lead lap finisher at Indy during that seven-year period. However, drivers began to manipulate the P.A.C.E.R. lights by making numerous pit stops under caution, since there was no speed limit on pit road during caution periods, and they discovered that they could actually gain time by making numerous pit stops. Bobby Unser was the first to use this to his advantage, and then other drivers also began to figure this out. Then drivers began to find a way to close in under caution, a controversy that flared up in the 1976 Indianapolis 500, when A.J. Foyt accused Johnny Rutherford of doing precisely that. In the end, it didn't matter since the rear sway bar on Foyt's car broke, and then rain ended the race after just 102 laps. But the controversy regarding the P.A.C.E.R. lights came to a head in 1978, when Steve Krisiloff was penalized out of the lead when USAC issued a one-lap penalty to Krisiloff for closing up under caution. That was the last straw. Beginning in 1979, the Indianapolis 500 would be run the same way under caution that all other races would be run, with a pace car leading the field. Safety workers also liked this idea, since it gave them more time to work on whatever the caution was for without them having to worry about cars going by just seconds apart, instead of having the field go around in one bunch and then not having them come back by for nearly two minutes. Now, because they always seem to have a rash of crashes late in restrictor plate races, I actually don't think something like this would be a bad idea at Daytona and Talladega, though it could certainly ruin the chances of someone that has a bad pit stop and falls 15+ seconds behind as a result. And Sean, wasn't the spring race at Bristol in 2002 the 2,000th in NASCAR's top series? What you're referring to happened in 2003. 503. murb posted: 05.06.2014 - 9:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sean is right. The 2003 Food City 500 was indeed the 2,000th Cup race. I just watched that race on YouTube recently, and the two big stories on the day were the beginning of The War In Iraq, and also the 2,000th Cup race. It was actually a pretty awesome short track race (there were a lot of cautions though - 17 I think). 504. 18fan posted: 05.06.2014 - 9:29 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) The first rule change I would make would be to eliminate double file restarts. I believe that double file restarts are the main reason we see pit stops when a caution comes out inside the final 5 laps (Not counting Fontana, since everybody had to pit due to the tire issues). Not to mention the games that are played on pit road to try to restart in the preferred line and the way that running 4th is preferential to 2nd and 3rd at a lot of tracks and how the 2nd place car always is at a disadvantage and seems to lose positions more times than not. I would also make every race end at the advertised distance to avoid the lottery-type finishes that have occurred on green-white-checkered finishes over the years. I was watching the 1996 Coca-Cola 600 a couple nights ago and seeing Dale Jarrett run the last 125 or so laps with a lead of over 10 seconds, I immediately said to myself that something like that would never happen today because there would be a debris caution for sure. This got me thinking that maybe NASCAR doesn't act alone when throwing what appear to be phantom debris cautions, that maybe the networks have had some influence on the increase of "debris" cautions over the last decade because they are nervous that fans would turn off a runaway race. 505. jabber1990 posted: 05.06.2014 - 9:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Could Hamilton or Whincup jump in a Sprint Cup car and be competitive? I don't think questions like these prove much." in 2011 Lewis Hamilton ran faster than Tony Stewart in his car at Watkins Glen for a ride-swap "I DO however wish we could see racing back to the yellow again. The whole field is frozen at the moment of caution nonsense has buzzkilled countless races over the years and I really don't think its made anything all that much safer. There were only two or three close calls I can think of back before the field is frozen rule and I always thought NASCAR went full kneejerk on that one." I think they should race to the line for a competition caution, and even the occasional Faux debris caution, we're more bound to belive "there was debris spotted outside the groove, so we let them race back" 506. jabber1990 posted: 05.06.2014 - 10:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) what? I thought the 2000th race was the 2002 Foood City 500 either way Kurt Busch won 507. David posted: 05.06.2014 - 10:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "after the dreadfully tragic 1933 Indianapolis 500, when five participants were killed in the race" But Will Overhead came in and saved the day. ;) 508. Ken posted: 05.06.2014 - 10:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) How many times has Tony Stewart finished last? I don't recall him even being mentioned on the broadcast. 509. Destroyahirismix666 posted: 05.06.2014 - 10:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Maybe I'm the only one here, but the idea of a race reaching it's scheduled distance under caution irks me unless it is under conditions that can't be changed (Severe crash damaging the track's safety to fans and drivers, rain). I do think the GWC rule is fine, it has provided plenty of interesting finishes. However, I do believe that the wave-around rule should be ditched. While I supported it when it first came out, I've seen that it can cause severe hazards in some cases. There should not be racing back to the line. CJS has documented this well countless times, I do not see the need to re-state it. Keep the double-filed restart rule though. I don't understand why everyone here is b*tching about it here in the last year/year and a half when everyone, even those of us on here, were very positive about it when it was unveiled in 2009. Sure, it may be a retarded rule at a place like Martinsville or Watkins Glen where 5th is a more welcome restart position then 2nd. However, it does force drivers to change their strategies and force them to think in a new light to 'get to the front', so why should it be ditched? We are challenging the drivers by doing this. I find it odd that most of the people here saying 'Hey, we should go back to having races go full distance only, with drivers winning by 3-4 laps!' are usually the same people complaining about 'No one shows any attempt' in the closing segments of the race. It's like saying 'I don't like how the drivers can't/won't attempt a crazy shot at the victory when it's given to them, let us just utterly ditch any attempt they might have at even getting close to the same place.' As shocking as it may be, you can't have both people! Look at the 70's. Also, the main reason that alot of races went with drivers winning by margins of an entire lap or more is because A) He had FAR superior equipment with top-of-the-line pitcrews, or B) He backed into it because of a high atrophic rate in the race (Case in point: Ned Jarret's record race winning margin, 16 laps! He pretty much backed into it after the two people leading ahead of him dropped out, and everyone else behind him went under for tires or mechanical issues). If, for some reason, that is your fetish, you're not going to see it again due to how close the teams are now. The comment in post 497 that had been brought to us by 'anymonous' shows us just the state NASCAR's fanbase is in. They don't like XYZ because it's not how THEY remember it. "I want to see a car spin out and be out of the race, not put four fresh tires on and be back in it". So...yeah, Smaller finishing fields! Whoo-hoot. I guess that is SO much more honest. "I want to see the guy in 17th racing his ass off against the leader." Guarntee you this is the same kind of asshole who would bitch Brad out for racing with the leaders last Sunday. Besides, If this person is a lap down, he's not going to be racing the leader to get his lap back, he's going to be dropping back and letting the leader by, especially after his second or third lap down. Mainly because by this point it becomes pointless to try. "I want strategy to be gone and I want to see some 50 cars show up per race!" So No respect for the Wood Brothers, Dale Sr, Bill Elliot, Alan Kulwicki, Petty Enterprises, or hell, just about ANY F*CKING LEGEND!? Nope, I just want to see a bunch of assholes go all out pointlessly! I don't want to see them use their heads, conserve, and think about what to do when to do it. As for 50 cars showing up per race, guess what b*tch, times are tough, it's mostly beyond NASCAR now. Shut up and be happy we are still getting full fields! " I want a lot of things but what I don't want to see is some BS like we see every weekend where nothing is sacred and the race ends in some dark twisted 8 year olds fantasy." This is the kicker post. The term 'Some Dark twisted 8 year old's fantasy' to me would be a repeat of the 2009 Aaron's 499 or 2013 Drive4COPD 300. Not the racing we have been getting. Something like the end of the Vegas race this year, this would be 'a dark twisted 8 year old's fantasy'? Something like 4 drivers coming close to all wrecking out in the Richmond event out of an 8 year old's fantasy!?!?!? Bull F*cking sh*t. Just because it's not Dale Sr/Davey Allison/insert other 1st or 2nd tier driver of the 90's dominating, I don't like it! It's all that same d@nm mentality! I guarantee you that if it was Dale Sr, Davey Allison, Ricky Rudd, and Rusty Wallace doing the same Richmond shenanigans at the end you would be wetting your pants from your sheer fangasm! And people wonder WHY NASCAR is ignoring their fanbase? Maybe because the fanbase is little more then a group of nostalgic-driven b*tch who whine and complain at every little thing provided. "Oh no, Jimmie Johnson won, take 5 points off of the race's value!" "Oh no, we had a late race caution which allowed for a duel to the finish!" There is NO pleasing them, they leave the series in droves, they started doing that once the Dale Sr. Nostalgia tours were over, which was about 2004~ish. Because of this, NASCAR is left with no other choice as a business group but to search after the common market because these 'hardcore fans' are little more then 'race idiots' that just haven't decided to throw their beer bottles on the track yet. YES, I'll say that some of their complaints are validated! But when every, single, f*cking race, good or bad, gets torn a new one, regardless of how good the on-track-quality is, then please, just shut up and leave. You hear me, SHUT UP AND LEAVE! Not just leave, but keep shouting your shit in chatrooms on NASCAR's site and youtube pages for the best 4 years until Keslowski wins the next championship (And then say he's NASCAR's savior because he has so much assholish personality he is willing to disgrace the sport on TV). Just sh*t the f*ck up and leave, go find another series to watch, or don't watch anything! Yes, I am also upset with the current state of affairs within NASCAR, and yes, I also may be 'leaving' and then 'returning', but mine is not because of a nostalgic calling for drivers with hot-headed assholish attitudes on track (And calm people that are willing to have themselves walked over by those same assholes). It is a personal set of beliefs on the quality of racing, not how many cars are left on the lead lap at the end of a race! I hate fanbases of anything. All they do is b8tch when exposed to the internet or other fans. 510. cjs3872 posted: 05.06.2014 - 11:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Thanks for clearing that up, murb. I thought it was 2002. Either way, the same driver, Kurt Busch, won the race both years. And I agree with you wholeheartedly, 18fan. They should at least go back to the old-style restarts, with the leaders starting single-file with the lapped cars next to them. One thing I would keep in regards to the current rule is that the leader should still have the choice where he (and his line) starts, with the lapped cars starting in the other lane. That way, nobody would gain an unfair advantage on the restart over someone running in a higher position. And also, the leader would virtually be guaranteed to be the first across the line on the restart on a single-file restart, barring a gearbox problem or a missed shift. However, as far as the GWC is concerned, I would revert back to the rule limiting it to one attempt, except on the restrictor plate tracks and road courses, where I would do away with it all together. I would do away with it at the plate tracks because of the dangers involved, and I would do away with it at the road courses because it takes too long and involves a higher percentage of the race distance, including extra caution laps. And as for the debris cautions, remember that the sport was different in 1996, all the way to the fact that it had different, and much better leadership, not to mention fiercer competition among more elite drivers than you have now. Back then, the powers that be didn't think that throwing phantom debris cautions was often necessary to spice up a race. They knew that every race couldn't be one where there's a great fight to the finish. But it seems that the guys running the sport today think every race has to be that way, and it doesn't have to be. And jabber1990, for all intents and purposes, they do race to the line on a competition caution, because what happens there is that NASCAR will not throw the competition caution until every car crosses the start-finish line on the leader's lap on which the competition caution is called. 511. 1995 Subaru WRX STi posted: 05.06.2014 - 11:41 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "But it seems that the guys running the sport today think every race has to be that way, and it doesn't have to be." I've said this on here before and i'll say it again: NASCAR polled 10,000 fans of its fan council (the entity that knows all) last year. Out of that 10,000 73% want cautions too bunch up the field. How is it NASCARs fault for listening too those with the loudiest voices? Leadership too you maybe the problem, but too me is those who yap alot. NASCAR has ears you know. "And people wonder WHY NASCAR is ignoring their fanbase? NASCAR isn't ignoring the fans, why is there fan council? What other sport out there has one? NFL? NHL? NBA? MLB? Anyone? Anyone?????? "Yes, I am also upset with the current state of affairs within NASCAR" I'm not and here is why: NASCAR isn't the most important thing in my life. I see no reason too get butthurt over something like NASCAR doing this or that. NASCAR is an escape for me, a 3-4 hour escape for 36 weeks a year too where i can enjoy myself. I may disagree with what they do but i know they get something right too once in a while. NASCAR is inbetween 0% and 99% right with what they do (pick something) but now and then NASCAR WILL get something 100% right. 512. cjs3872 posted: 05.07.2014 - 1:10 am Rate this comment: (2) (0) Well, what does that say about the fans as a whole, 1995 Subaru? And also, much like political polls are, when NASCAR polled those 10,000 people you mentioned, that may not be how all NASCAR fans feel, but just those specific fans they polled. But back to your point. What that tells me is that the majority of NASCAR fans don't mind that the races are, in some way, being manipulated by NASCAR itself, which to me, is a crying shame. Let's just thank our lucky stars that these likely weren't the kind of fans baseball had just after the 1919 World Series, or baseball, and possibly professional sports as a whole in this country, might not have survived that scandal. As a sports fan, the biggest thing I root for is a closely fought, and more importantly, a genuine contest. Who wins does not really matter to me. That's why I'm still appalled at what happened in each of the last three fall races at Richmond, because a number of teams, and in one case, even a car manufacturer, was trying to fix the races in an unsportsmanlike fashion. And ironically, the same driver was the target of the conspiracy all three times, though that had nothing to do with my feeling about it. But the fact that almost three-quarters of those in that poll said that they didn't mind the fact that the races were being manipulated by NASCAR is just as appalling to me. And it also tells me that they don't seem to mind that things inside the sport may not be on the "up-and-up", and we've seen what's happened regarding other sports that have had that stigma attached to it, and auto racing is ripe for it, especially with the multi-car superteams of today. NASCAR can say whatever they want about teams and drivers giving it their all and outlawing known "deals" during the race weekend for one team to assist another, but who's to say things like that aren't still going on behind the scenes far from the track during the week, or even weeks prior to an event. That's what scares me about the current state of NASCAR today with so very few organizations competing at the very highest level of the sport, as just as many organizations struggling. And with the way the championship is going to be decided this year, unless is a crazy thing with all four cars from the same team racing for the title, I can almost guarantee everyone on this board right now that there will be some behind the scenes wheeling and dealing between teams going into that final race to help in the title fight. And the last thing the sport needs is a championship-fixing scandal, either involving more than one car on the same team, or more than one team. That could blow the roof off the sport, as we know it. Not to mention that NASCAR could intentionally blow a close call just to favor a particular driver, or rule against a particular driver, something that has been suspected, but never proven, numerous times over the years. And what happens then? If anything like that ever happens, then it might be a long time before the sport recovers, it if ever does. 513. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.07.2014 - 5:12 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) destroyahirimix666: Thank the fan council then and the fans that want that crap... NASCAR ratings this year are the worst in series history... lowest EVER. Races that drew 6.0-7.5 Nielsen ratings now get 3.0-4.0. Give me a heavy dose of attrition and I will be happy. Thank you. 514. cjs3872 posted: 05.07.2014 - 8:23 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm not sure about a heavy dose of attrition, NicoRosbergFan, but certainly races were reliability was a bigger factor couldn't be bad. However, that does have reasonable limits. But when you get to the point where the attrition was as bad as it was in the 70s and early 80s, then I think it's a bad situation. Back then, 40 cars would start a race on a speedway, and only one out of three would finish. That's too low a finishing rate. Not only that, but it wasn't uncommon for drivers finishing in the top 5-7 to be double digit laps behind at places like Dover, Darlington, and some of the other shorter tracks. And that even carried over to some of the bigger speedways. For instance, in the 1977 Daytona 500, J.D. McDuffie retired late with a blown engine, and finished 13th, 16 laps behind, yet was 16 laps ahead of the next car in that race, which did finish. That's not a good situation, either. The 1985 Daytona 500 was a good example of high attrition among the leaders ruining the race. By halfway, virtually every big name was out of the race, and the second half of the race was nothing more than a coronation. I don't think making reliability important is that bad of a idea, but I think it has to be within reason. The 1976 Daytona 500 is a good example of this. While that race is best known for the classic finish between Richard Petty and David Pearson, it must also not be forgotten that no fewer than 15 cars in that race suffered engine failures, and the first seven cars out of that race, including Cale Yarborough and Dick Brooks (within the first six laps), suffered engine failures. We can't have 43 cars start and 14-18 finish, with some of those well off the pace, simply because the equipment can't last. But having reliability be a part of the mix is also important. That's one reason why I think there are races on the NASCAR circuit that actually need to be lengthened, including one race at Michigan, Pocono, and Kansas, as well as both road course events. I think the mid-size tracks that have two races should have them at separate distances (I know that Pocono is not a mid-sized track). Have one race at 400 miles and the other at 500. (Charlotte already has this, with one race being 500 miles and the other one 600 miles.) And I don't think that it would be a bad idea for the Texas Motor Speedway to keep one of its races at 500 miles and change the race distance of the other one from 500 to either 450 or 550 miles, just to make the two races different. And reliability is also one big reason why I think the NASCAR season finale should always be a 500-mile race, if run on a speedway. The 500-mile race has always been auto racing's test of champions, going all the way back to 1911, when Carl Fisher decided that his then-new Indianapolis Motor Speedway's race should be at the 500-mile distance. He knew what a test that would be, and I still think it's a test to this day, and the true test of champions in auto racing. (And believe it or not, 26 cars had either finished the full distance, or were still running when that race was called because of darkness.) And it's not just a test of the machines, but also the men, not only the drivers, but also the pit crews, and that extra 100 miles may mean two more pit stops, which can certainly make the difference between who's the champion and who isn't in that final race. 515. Scott B posted: 05.07.2014 - 12:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I have not seen the fan council pole, but I am smacking my head over a majority saying they are OK with BS cautions. This sure is a mixed message, after the big outcry over the MWR team orders to manipulate the Chase seeding last year. I guess they are OK with NASCAR pulling strings, but not the drivers, owners, or crew chiefs? CJS, there's no doubt that deal making is alive and well. The group qualifying at 'Dega this week proved it. Fortunately, qualifying really doesn't mean squat at plate tracks. I have to disagree about lengthening races, though. The early and middle stages of a race have become almost meaningless in the current state of racing. If a favorite goes a lap or two down due to an unscheduled pit stop early, it's pretty much a given that they'll get back on the lead lap. I don't want to see more laps, if any advantage/disadvantage is just going to be erased. 516. cjs3872 posted: 05.07.2014 - 2:29 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Scott B, the group qualifying idea at the restrictor plates is a bad idea anyway, because it actually favors the cars coming up from behind, because the fastest lap speeds are achieved, not by the cars at the front, but by the cars behind catching up because of the effect of the draft. The deal making for starting position is not a big deal because at the plate tracks, you can go from 5th to 25th in one lap, or 35th to 10th within five laps. For example, a few years ago, Jeff Gordon and Jimmie Johnson went from 26th and 27th to first and second in a little over ONE lap. So starting position is no big issue there. I'm more worried about what might happen with a Chase berth or even a championship on the line, especially since the championship is going to be a four driver, one race battle with the highest finisher among he four taking the title. That's where I fear the possibility of underhanded deals gong on behind the scenes. They can't take place during the race weekend because NASCAR will be watching all the teams like an eagle, but they can't do anything about things happening away from the track. And I disagree with what you say about the length of the races, because the road course events are not nearly long enough now. I think they need to add at least 25% more to the race distance of the road course events. 90 laps at Watkins Glen and 110 at Sonoma is not enough. I think those races should be at least 275-300 miles, because the race pace is faster there than it is at Martinsville, and the races there are 266.5 miles long. Now I think something like 400 miles on a road course is too long, but the length of the races on the road courses now is too short. I think if they added 25-30 laps to those races, I think the distance would then be right on what I think it should be. And as for the other races I said should be lengthened, which would be one of the two races at Michigan and Kansas, the reason I say that is because, by running both races at the same distance, you're essentially running the same race twice, and by running each of the races at a different distance, you can create an separate identity for each of the two races those tracks have. Besides, the race pace at Michigan is easily fast enough to run a 500-mile race (they once scheduled a 600-mile race there in 1969), and I think the race pace at Kansas is also fast enough to run one of the races at the 500-mile distance. I also think the season finale at Homestead should be extended to 500 miles, because I think that the championship, if it's decided on a speedway, needs to be at the 500-mile distance, because 400 miles is too short for a speedway race. And as I've noted, in auto racing, 500 miles is the test of champions, and has been since 1911. 517. startandparkfan posted: 05.07.2014 - 3:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsor Continuity- #66 BlueDEF Diesel Exhaust Fluid Also as a note the Denver in Denver Mattress (#78) is currently not capitalized. Just a typo I found. 518. Scott B posted: 05.07.2014 - 4:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I never thought about it, but yes it is curious that Michigan hasn't run a 500 miler since 1969. I'm guessing that the high attrition rate due to engine failures at that track might have been the motivation to cut the distance back. That wouldn't be a big problem today, though. 519. An Aussie Commentator posted: 05.07.2014 - 7:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "How many times has Tony Stewart finished last? I don't recall him even being mentioned on the broadcast" According to Brock Beard's LASTCAR post on Talladega this last-place finish was Stewart's 5th. 520. cjs3872 posted: 05.07.2014 - 8:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And Scott B, the only NASCAR race at Michigan ever scheduled for 500 miles was the first race they ever held there in 1969. The second race there was scheduled for 600 miles, but only 330 were run because of rain. And since 1970, every race there has been scheduled for 400 miles (with the second race there in 1970 being the first ever run with restrictor plates), except for the first race there in 1974, which was scheduled for 360 miles, due to the fact that 10% of the race distance was cut from every NASCAR race during the first half of the 1974 season due to the energy crisis. 521. jabber1990 posted: 05.08.2014 - 10:53 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Monday Evening I was on I70 somewhere between St. Louis and Columbia, MO and the merchandise Hauler for Danica Patrick just flew by me. shortly after I sent a text to a friend me: "I just saw the Merchandise hauler for the GoDaddy.com Race team, I had no idea there was a GoDaddy.com car" him: "i'll bet he's an awesome guy, an awesome driver, and has a really great personality!" also, later on 40 I saw a bunch of TUDOR haulers heading east. just thought i'd share that 522. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.08.2014 - 12:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ryan McGee is a dumbass. 523. Anonymous posted: 05.08.2014 - 3:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #521 No offense, but your friend is an idiot. 524. Scott B posted: 05.08.2014 - 5:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #523 Or, his friend is sarcastic and funny. Sounds like the merch truck driver should be in the #10 car on Sunday. 525. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.08.2014 - 6:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) In the last 3 years, the National Guard has spent $88,000,000 sponsoring Dale Jr. in the Cup... The number of recruits the National Guard got via their NASCAR sponsorship... ZERO! 526. David posted: 05.08.2014 - 6:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ^ And you criticize ME for whitespace issues? 527. 18fan posted: 05.09.2014 - 2:25 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Some genius on Bleacher Report wrote that BK Racing could be considered good equipment. I stopped reading once I read that. 528. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.09.2014 - 8:51 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) We have lost Wilbur Rakestraw :( 529. joey2448 posted: 05.09.2014 - 3:27 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Guys, the front row for tomorrow's Grand Prix of Indy is Sebastian Saavedra and Jack Hawksworth! Who woulda thunk it?? 530. Seagal posted: 05.09.2014 - 3:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 525. "In the last 3 years, the National Guard has spent $88,000,000 sponsoring Dale Jr. in the Cup... The number of recruits the National Guard got via their NASCAR sponsorship...ZERO" How do you quantify something like that though? Where is this information coming from? 531. SpeedWorld97 posted: 05.09.2014 - 3:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Guys, the front row for tomorrow's Grand Prix of Indy is Sebastian Saavedra and Jack Hawksworth! Who woulda thunk it??" It must be opposite day at IMS. They are driving down the IMS front straight in the opposite direction, and one of the backmarker drivers is starting on pole! In all seriousness though, tomorrow's IMS road course race will be interesting to say the least. 532. NicoRosbergFan posted: 05.09.2014 - 3:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @Seagal: the National Guard themselves. Read it on Jayski. 533. Anonymous posted: 05.09.2014 - 4:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) FS1 actually showed the SPEED logo during their little piece about AJ Allmendinger. I'm impressed. 534. Sean posted: 05.09.2014 - 5:31 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Guys, the front row for tomorrow's Grand Prix of Indy is Sebastian Saavedra and Jack Hawksworth! Who woulda thunk it??" Hawksworth's been fast in qualifying all season, and was fast in qualifying on the road/street courses in Indy Lights last year too. He's really been making Alex Tagliani look bad. Saavedra on the other hand is shocking me this season. He's been running faster than Bourdais and making fewer mistakes, and he managed to hold off RHR and Power while off pit sequence at Barber... I had totally written him off. Maybe I wrote him off too quickly... "The number of recruits the National Guard got via their NASCAR sponsorship... ZERO!" This makes the Panther/Rahal lawsuit look really silly now, huh? Especially since Rahal is actually running worse than Hildebrand AND Servia AND Briscoe did for Panther last year... 535. startandparkfan posted: 05.09.2014 - 6:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Kyle Busch has already won the truck race by starting from the pole, and we are still 2 hrs away from the start. 536. startandparkfan posted: 05.09.2014 - 6:16 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Just a random though I had, and though I would put out there. I love to see that the #47 team is fighting back. A.J. Allmendinger has shown that he can get decent finishes at some of the normal tracks, like Richmond, Fontana, and Martinsville. He was also the only somewhat upset finisher in the top 10 at Talladega, and ran well in other races as well. I think that he will continue to be a decent finisher, and get good finishes at some short tracks. He will especially do well at the road courses. He won both of the Nationwide road course races he entered last year, Road America and Mid-Ohio, and did well in the #47 at Watkins Glen, running 3rd and 4th before running out of fuel, and rallying back to 10th. He also got good finishes at Sonoma in the past. I think that he has a legit shot at getting a win this year, especially with the partnership JTG has with RCR (I think), and I am pretty sure that more of you will agree with me. Sorry for the long and off topic post, by the way. 537. Canadianfan posted: 05.09.2014 - 7:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Danica just bumped Jeff are you kidding me. 538. New14 & 88Fan posted: 05.09.2014 - 7:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Stewart-Haas and Penske dominate qualifying. Kevin Harvick is the pole winner. 539. We need more Onion posted: 06.01.2014 - 2:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @536 I think he would do even better in the #13. Same kind of ride, maybe smaller budget but a bit better equipment and obviously a better CC. Not like I'm not content with Mears, but still, I feel the Germain ride is a bit stronger than the JTG one, would be better for AJ. With that he'd be on for a win. 540. CBASS posted: 06.20.2014 - 5:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsor updates #42 Target/ Diet Mountain Dew #5 Thank A Million Teachers/ Farmers #55 Aaron's "Own It" #47 Bush's Best/ Scott Products/ House-Autry #98 Dogecoin Digital Currency #51 Brandt Professional Agriculture 541. NASCARLover22 posted: 09.13.2015 - 9:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsor updates: #43 Logan's Roadhouse/Gwaltney (grammar error) #14 Bass Pro Shops/Mobil 1 #3 Bass Pro Shops/Tracker Boats 542. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.31.2015 - 9:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Is this the record for the most lucky dogs given to a single driver in one race? I don't think anyone could top 6. 543. RaceFanX posted: 01.27.2016 - 4:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Michael Annett's 16th here was his best finish of his 2014 rookie season. 544. Mr.Victory posted: 03.07.2018 - 9:09 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Cars involved lap 175: 36, 27, 48, 22, 34, 41, 95, 3, 17, 43(hit 26 car), 26(minor collision with 43). 545. Wil posted: 05.13.2019 - 9:36 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "But there's another factor as to why he was essentially a non-factor on Sunday, and it's something nobody seems to be talking about, but it's quite possible, given his recent history there, as well as his concussion history, that Dale, Jr. was afraid of being involved in a crash there at those speeds, especially since he knew crashes were going to happen." Dale Jr opens his book by saying exactly this. I wonder if the guy who posted that comment eventually learned how right he was. Turns out sometimes theories posed by fans are exactly what happened in the athlete's mind! (but it's rare) 546. WindowsME posted: 08.01.2019 - 6:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jamie McMurray was seven laps down early in this race due to damage to his splitter from the Brad Keselowski spin. He would go on to earn six Lucky Dog's in a row to end up only one lap down by the end of the race. 547. Rich posted: 12.08.2020 - 9:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Mike Joy, Larry McReynolds and Darrell Waltrip were the commentators. Steve Byrnes, Matt Yocum and Krista Voda were the pit road reporters. Jeff Hammond was the roving reporter. Chris Myers was in the Hollywood hotel. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Post a comment:* Your comment may not appear immediately - all comments must be approved by the moderator. Name: Comment: