|| *Comments on the 2014 AAA 400:* View the most recent comment <#400> | Post a comment <#post> 1. joey2448 posted: 09.26.2014 - 4:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick now has more poles this year (7) than he has had in his previous years combined (6 from 2001-13). Too bad those Ganassi cars aren't in the Chase. They'd be tearing it up! Two Gibbs drivers showing speed in 2nd and 3rd! That was a bit of a surprise! 2. Anonymous posted: 09.26.2014 - 4:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The #44 team returns to the track with Timmy Hill. 3. Ed posted: 09.26.2014 - 5:16 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Danica's been great for one lap this season honestly, if only she could consistently keep it up for 400 miles 4. Benjamin Lowe posted: 09.26.2014 - 6:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (4) If Gordon has any chance at winning the title he's going to have to drive like Dale SR did whenever he had to race for a championship unfortunately as we all know Jeff Gordon is no Dale SR. 5. joey2448 posted: 09.26.2014 - 6:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well, all Gordon needs to do to clinch a spot in the next round is finish 14th or better (not including bonus pts from laps led). Denny Hamlin is on the outside looking in coming into this race, sitting 13th in the standings, 6 points out, but qualifying third is a great start to his weekend. 6. joey2448 posted: 09.26.2014 - 7:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kurt Busch will be making his 500th career start this weekend, and is driving a special silver paint scheme celebrating the occasion. Busch made his first career start at this very track in Sept. 2000, starting 10th and finishing 18th. Since then, he has earned 25 Cup wins and one championship. 7. 1995 Subaru WRX STi posted: 09.26.2014 - 8:55 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) "Too bad those Ganassi cars aren't in the Chase. They'd be tearing it up!" Yep but typical for Jaime is it "bad luck or no luck at all." If Chip knows what is best for him, he'll leave this pairing too together for as long as possible. In others news, BSPN suspended Bill Simmons 3 weeks for "failure to meet journalistic standards". 1. A podcast is just for entertainment, not journalism. 2. BSPN as "journalists" who "fail too meet journalistsic standards" all the damn time. How people has BSPN suspended since 2008? 3. BSPN is protecting the "the shield" while giving NASCAR the finger. Go figure. 4. Bill Simmons was pretty much telling the truth about Roger Goodell and the NFL. 8. Mr X posted: 09.26.2014 - 9:06 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Alterations to the chase almost seem to be made in spite of McMurray, hopefully he makes it in one year. You know he'll be emotional when it happens. 9. jabber1990 posted: 09.26.2014 - 9:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) "In others news, BSPN suspended Bill Simmons 3 weeks for "failure to meet journalistic standards". 1. A podcast is just for entertainment, not journalism. 2. BSPN as "journalists" who "fail too meet journalistsic standards" all the damn time. How people has BSPN suspended since 2008? 3. BSPN is protecting the "the shield" while giving NASCAR the finger. Go figure. 4. Bill Simmons was pretty much telling the truth about Roger Goodell and the NFL." Dave Moody has mentioned on his Radio Show at least thrice that he's not a fan of BSPN, he will be happy when they leave. They show the footage of Tony Stewart hitting Kevin Ward Jr. on a continuous loop every 3 minutes for 48 hours. yet they blur whoever that was who gave the "1 finger salute" to the offical granted, ESPN is required by the FCC to do that,but yet they will show a kid being murdered (since ESPN was/still is convinced that he did it on purpose) and NPR made it sound like Tony Stewart and Kevin Ward Jr. were doing a Chinese Fire drill that went very very wrong "A podcast is just for entertainment, not journalism." recent studies say that most 13 year olds get their news from "The Daily Show" 10. Jarrett88fan posted: 09.26.2014 - 9:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If not for the ridiculously ill timed caution and/or the pit exit order, McMurray very well could have won Bristol. Jimmie will lead 278 laps and record the first double digit win at a track in the Cup Series since Dale Earnhardt won at Talladega in October 2000. 11. Jarrett88fan posted: 09.26.2014 - 9:41 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) I wonder what Robin Miller's opinion on BESPN's sensational coverage of the Stewart/Ward incident is? Damn I miss Wind Tunnel with Dave Despain on SPEED. 12. An Aussie Commentator posted: 09.26.2014 - 10:17 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) DSFF, do you watch BESPN? 13. RaceFanX posted: 09.26.2014 - 10:31 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) I miss the era of "ESPN, the worldwide leader in motorsports coverage, presents SPEED WORLD!" ESPN still has great drag racing coverage if albeit not live. 14. RaceFanX posted: 09.26.2014 - 10:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I like ESPN's broadcast crew (DJ and Petree make a great pair, Brad Daugherty is really cool and has a unique angle being an active owner). I do think they focus on the leaders and the chasers too much but a lot of that is because NASCAR is pointing in that direction and thus that's what the fans want. There's not enough showing of the cars further back anymore. 15. The Crimson King posted: 09.26.2014 - 10:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) >7 poles >only 2 wins Christ, Harvick's luck has been awful this year, hasn't it? 16. Brad Keselowski & Bubba Wallace Fan posted: 09.27.2014 - 12:13 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Kurt Busch will be making his 500th career start this weekend, and is driving a special silver paint scheme celebrating the occasion. Busch made his first career start at this very track in Sept. 2000, starting 10th and finishing 18th. Since then, he has earned 25 Cup wins and one championship." Also, the 200th start for David Stremme. 17. Daniel posted: 09.27.2014 - 12:57 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) Go Gordon! 18. Dense Drip posted: 09.27.2014 - 9:50 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) It seems like you can never see low budget teams get good starting spots anymore. 19. epzik8 posted: 09.27.2014 - 9:57 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) The first elimination race of the Chase. 20. racefangurl posted: 09.27.2014 - 10:19 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) No worries for me. Joey has a win, so I'm living in bliss in regard to this Cup race, though I hope Joey has a decent day. Since I don't have cable TV, I'll be on RaceTrax tomorrow afternoon to see the results. 21. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 09.27.2014 - 10:52 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) jabber, Unless the law was changed recently, I believe that cable channels aren't under FCC reg's as over-the-air channels. Many networks decide to comply for the most part to those standards for the sake of advertising and for being carried by cable/satellite providers. For instance, FCC regulated channels/stations have to identify themselves at the top of every hour with their call letters/frequency and location. Cable networks aren't required to do as such. 22. 1995 Subaru WRX STi posted: 09.27.2014 - 11:52 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I wonder what Robin Miller's opinion on BESPN's sensational coverage of the Stewart/Ward incident is? Damn I miss Wind Tunnel with Dave Despain on SPEED." I liked the show when it was a call-in show and it lasted 1 hour. I think Robin Miller had an article too his opinion was but i can not find it. "Jimmie will lead 278 laps and record the first double digit win at a track in the Cup Series since Dale Earnhardt won at Talladega in October 2000." It would proper history instead of the "kyle busch winning 200 NASCAR races hur dur, greatest achievment in the history of history hur dur hur dur." 23. Anonymous posted: 09.27.2014 - 1:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Prediction: Hamlin gets in, Allmendinger goes out. 24. epzik8 posted: 09.27.2014 - 1:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It would be cool to see Allmendinger to advance but yes, maybe Hamlin will bounce back and knock Allmendinger out. 25. Anonymous posted: 09.27.2014 - 3:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin & Allmendinger finished 1st & 4th at Talladega in April, which happens to be the next elimination race. If either one of them makes it they might as well do R&D for the next two races. 26. 23andJoe posted: 09.27.2014 - 3:30 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Chad's Hair Plugs: Actually, the FCC's obscenity rules DO apply to cable and satellite channels. They're not actively /enforced/, but they /are/ the rules: From the FCC's FAQ: ">Do the FCC's rules apply to cable and satellite programming? In the past, the FCC has enforced the indecency and profanity prohibitions only against conventional broadcast services, not against subscription programming services such as cable and satellite. However, the prohibition against obscene programming applies to subscription programming services at all times." 27. Seagal posted: 09.27.2014 - 6:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 15. Christ, Harvick's luck has been awful this year, hasn't it? Slow/botched pit stops, miscommunication, and bean bags left in the car are not bad luck. It's bad performance. 28. David posted: 09.27.2014 - 6:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Slow/botched pit stops, miscommunication, and bean bags left in the car are not bad luck. It's bad performance." True, but they aren't Harvick's blunders. 29. Seagal posted: 09.27.2014 - 7:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 28. "True, but they aren't Harvick's blunders." Yes, but it's either a team sport or it's not. I've grown tired of hearing people say the 4 should have won so-and-so number races if not for bad luck. It wasn't bad luck for most of those races. Loose wheels and miscommunication are all things the team can control, and they failed to do so. They had chances to win and they didn't get it done. That's it. There is no "should have". Sorry to vent at you David. :) The Gibbs cars looked good. Hope Kenseth can get it done tomorrow. 30. David posted: 09.27.2014 - 8:55 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) "Yes, but it's either a team sport or it's not. I've grown tired of hearing people say the 4 should have won so-and-so number races if not for bad luck. It wasn't bad luck for most of those races. Loose wheels and miscommunication are all things the team can control, and they failed to do so. They had chances to win and they didn't get it done. That's it. There is no "should have". Sorry to vent at you David. :)" That right there is why you can't determine greatness based on how many championships a driver has. 31. Hinch27 posted: 09.28.2014 - 9:29 am Rate this comment: (0) (2) NFL Picks: CHI over GB HOU over BUF IND over TEN CAR over BAL DET over NYJ PIT over TB MIA over OAK SD over JAX ATL over MIN SF over PHI NO over DAL NE over KC 32. 1995 Subaru WRX STi posted: 09.28.2014 - 12:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "That right there is why you can't determine greatness based on how many championships a driver has." While i agree with you, i think championships do play a part in determining greatness (depends on who you ask really.) Jeff Gordon as an example: 4 Cups and alot of wins but that does not tell the whole story. Jeff was the young face NASCAR needed when he came in (taking the torch from Big E). He was marketable, brash and backed it up on the track. He helped bring in big dollar sponsers and helped NASCAR grow (only problem he had is that fans hated his guts but NASCAR still grew anyway). Now in the twlight of his carrer, he is helping the young kids out (Kyle Larson) but passing on his advice and knowledge. I'm really people, how many here would love too see Jeff Gordon open his own driving school? *raises hand* 33. epzik8 posted: 09.28.2014 - 12:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Dover is my home track so I could be at the race today. But, I have to settle for watching it on TV. 34. RaceFanX posted: 09.28.2014 - 1:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) A giant "Every Moment Counts" flag from the USO was hung from a crane at Dover during this race weekend. The 80-by-20 foot flag set a Guiness World Record by having the most signatures ever on a single flag as over 115,000 people signed it in support of the troops and their families. 35. cjs3872 posted: 09.28.2014 - 1:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Actually 1995 Subaru, Jeff Gordon DID open up a driving school several years ago with Mario Andretti, but since we haven't heard much about that in recent years, I'd say that venture went "belly up". And Jeff is doing the same thing for a number of the younger drivers coming up, as far as mentoring goes, that guys like Darrell Waltrip, Bill Elliott, and Dale, Sr. did for Gordon and a few others when they were coming up 20 years ago. Aside from the mentoring he got from Terry Labonte and Ken Schrader at HMS, Gordon also got mentoring from the likes of Earnhardt and Waltrip to help him along. And guys like Waltrip, Dale, Sr., Elliott, and Rusty Wallace got the same mentoring from the generation that came before them (Richard Petty, David Pearson, Bobby Allison, Cale Yarborough, Benny Parsons, etc.). They know that they're not going to be around forever, but since they love the sport so much, they'll help the next generation of stars out so they can help the sport along, in part to give back to the sport that gave so much to them. 36. Eric posted: 09.28.2014 - 2:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) 1995 Subaru WRX STi, While Jeff Gordon was the young face NASCAR needed, Jeff was taught by was one the best at Marketing in Dale Earnhardt Sr. when Jeff was a young cup driver. In Dale's era, Dale Earnhardt Sr. was the best best marketer of the cup drivers in his era. Dale Sr. also made show his drivers at DEI treated their sponsors well in terms of wearing hats the proper way and don't forgot naming sponsors. Dale did similar stuff to drivers outside of DEI in private like Jeff Gordon as a way making sure NASCAR would be on the right path in terms representing NASCAR from a sponsor standpoint. Dale Earnhardt Sr. took Jeff Gordon under his wing when it came to marketing and handling sponsors. Dale Earnhardt Sr. actually was Jeff's business. Dale Earnhardt Sr. saw Jeff Gordon as a driver that could bring a new audience into NASCAR. 37. Benjamin Lowe posted: 09.28.2014 - 2:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If I were in charge of NASCAR I would force Goodyear to build a tire for this track that handles like the old bias-sly tires in an attempt to improve the quality of racing at dover which has gone very much downhill 38. epzik8 posted: 09.28.2014 - 2:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This should be good. 39. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 2:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gordon moves past Hamlin for fourth place and sets his sights on Kyle Busch. 40. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 2:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) SO MANY COMMERCIALS!!! 41. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 09.28.2014 - 2:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jeter's career is officially over. Last at bat was a Baltimore chop single and an RBI. 42. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 2:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The King of Dover moves past McMurray for sixth. 43. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 2:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gordon moves to third. 44. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 2:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) As they run, Hamin is 14 points ahaed of the cutoff! 45. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 2:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Allmendinger and Almirola are both not far from being lapped. Their chances of making it to the next Chase round look doubtful at the moment... 46. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 2:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) OH MY GOD THERE"S A COMMERCIAL WITH I WANT TO BREAK FREE!!!! 47. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 2:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) QUEEN FTW!!!!! 48. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 2:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick about to lap Almirola and AJ. 49. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 2:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Almirola is fighting hard to stay on the lead lap, but it probably won't last. 50. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 2:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I have a bad feeling a Jacques caution will appear soon... 51. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 2:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Why is Hamlin running so bad? round 2 is on the line and yet he's sliding back from 3rd to 7th. 52. Jacques posted: 09.28.2014 - 2:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Say Hello! 53. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 2:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Caution for a spring rubber lying in the track. Well, at least it's not Jacques... 54. Jacques posted: 09.28.2014 - 2:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Now I'm Here! 55. epzik8 posted: 09.28.2014 - 2:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Leaders pit, lapped cars don't. 56. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 2:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Long pit stop for Johnson, which drops him back to 10th. 57. David posted: 09.28.2014 - 2:49 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "OH MY GOD THERE"S A COMMERCIAL WITH I WANT TO BREAK FREE!!!!" "QUEEN FTW!!!!!" At least there's something from your posts I can relate to. 58. David posted: 09.28.2014 - 2:51 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Now I'm Here!" Hehehehehehehe... I was expecting Johnson to be leading by now, but I'm not complaining. 59. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 2:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Justin Allgaier nearly gets wrecked on the front stretch, but saves it. Danica goes high between turns 1 and 2 and loses a bunch of spots. 60. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 09.28.2014 - 2:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Caution out for no one knows. 61. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 2:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Caution for Ricky Stenhouse bumping the wall. 62. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 2:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Caution is out as Ricky Stenhouse Jr hits the wall. 63. murb posted: 09.28.2014 - 2:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Horrific run for Aric. I know that he was all but guaranteed to be missing the cut before this race, but he always runs well here, so I was at least expecting a good run from him today. Too bad. 64. epzik8 posted: 09.28.2014 - 2:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well, at least Hamlin has already made up some ground from last week. 65. TS1420 posted: 09.28.2014 - 2:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I wonder how long it will be before Chad kidnaps the 24 pit-crew. 66. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Denny update. 9 points ahead. 67. murb posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) All of a sudden Carl Edwards is running horrible. He could wind up being somewhat of a surprise elimination here today. 68. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The King of Dover moves in on Hamlin for fourth. 69. epzik8 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Stenhouse is still 15th and on the lead lap. 70. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bold prediction. Edwards out. 71. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I wouldn't be shocked to see Edwards miss the cut seeing as he's currently the lame duck at Roush... 72. Mr X posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Did Stenhouse even pit under the caution that NASCAR threw for him? 73. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) LOOK AT ALL THE FULL SEATS!!! 74. epzik8 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Three Chase drivers are right on the edge of elimination right now. 75. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Edwards, Logano, and Junior are really struggling right now. They're still running outside the top 20 despite having fresher tires. 76. someone posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) seriously? a tiebreaker is the result of how they finish rather than wins??? 77. murb posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I wouldn't be shocked to see Edwards miss the cut seeing as he's currently the lame duck at Roush..." I was thinking he'd make it through to the next round and then get eliminated at Talladega, but with the way he's running today, it's now very realistic that he'll be out sooner than that. 78. David posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Chase basement update: Carl Edwards - 2080 Kurt Busch - 2080 Greg Biffle - 2080 AJ Allmendinger - 2075 Aric Almirola - 2061 79. murb posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Shocked at how Logano is running today, but I guess he's been due for a bad race for a while now. At least he's locked in though, so it's not a big deal at all. 80. Sector posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It wouldn't make sense if they made the tiebreaker based on wins, especially since it's a three race elimination set up. Especially since they all get bonus points from the start anyway. Kevin Harvick has led every single laps so far, & we're 116 laps in. 81. epzik8 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Biffle hit Ambrose and now has an issue with his car. 82. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Bold Prediction. Harvick leads every lap. 83. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Danica Patrick is now the last car on the lead lap. Can't help but get the feeling that means that Jacques is going to show up soon... 84. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Bold Prediction. Harvick leads every lap." Nah, Harvick's crew will find a way to goof it up and put him back in the pack later in the race. 85. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Don't think so. 86. Anonymous posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:17 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) I might be right about Dale Jr not winning again or making the 2nd round of the chase. I hope to God that I'm wrong but I don't know what is wrong with the car. It is either Jr himself, Steve Letarte, the people in the shop or something. I just want Dale Jr to do good, that is it. Dislike this post all you want, that is your right, but if you don't at least please tell me what you think might be wrong with Dale Jr's car or is it Dale Jr himself? 87. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Danica Patrick is now the last car on the lead lap. Can't help but get the feeling that means that Jacques is going to show up soon..." I knew it! 88. murb posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Schroeder's prediction comes true. 89. David posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Just as Jaws Gordon was closing in on Harvick, the caution flies. Oh well. 90. Jacques posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:18 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Hey guys! I have noticed that Danica is almost 1 lap down, so i have come over to help! 91. Sector posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Tony Stewart gains 4 spots on pit road, up to 7th. Does he still have Kevin Harvick's crew? 92. Hinch27 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:21 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Dislike this post all you want, that is your right, but if you don't at least please tell me what you think might be wrong with Dale Jr's car or is it Dale Jr himself? " As I have said, Chad Knaus would rather the entire Hendrick Cup operation fold than have one of his teammates win the title. 93. David posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:21 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) The good news for my Fantasy Live team (or rather, the bad news for everyone else) is that Harvick stands to lose the most place differential points since he started on pole. But for now, Harvick has gained a ton of fantasy points by leading all those laps. Oh well, I'll just leave it in the lap of the gods... 94. Anonymous posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I know not many(if any of you, no offense) will take me seriously on here but please tell me what you think might be going on with Dale Jr. Is it a bad car or does Dale Jr just not care anymore? 95. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Oh well, I'll just leave it in the lap of the gods..." HAHA! 96. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And i mean that in a funny way. Not a mean way. 97. David posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I know not many(if any of you, no offense) will take me seriously on here but please tell me what you think might be going on with Dale Jr. Is it a bad car or does Dale Jr just not care anymore?" It's a bad car. Junior wouldn't just stop caring in a season where he has a legitimate shot to win the title. Now as for 2009... 98. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Chase update. Kurt Busch, Greg Biffle, AJ Allmendinger and Aric Almirola are in the danger zone. 99. Anonymous posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:24 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) As I said last week I must be a worthless piece of crap. I'm NOT going to talk about suicide anymore but I'm not very popular because I'm a piece of s--t. 100. TS1420 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:24 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "As I have said, Chad Knaus would rather the entire Hendrick Cup operation fold than have one of his teammates win the title." Knaus is a selfish jackass. If the 48 team can't bring home a championship for Hendrick, then nobody will bring home a championship for Hendrick. 101. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Anyonymous, Just keep yourself alive. You are not worthless. 102. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) P.S. It;s a bad car. 103. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Also, he's 18 points ahead of the cutoff, so he's safe barring problems. 104. Anonymous posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) dennyfan11, I'm going to keep myself alive. I WILL NOT commit suicide. I can promise you that. 105. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Great! 106. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Anonymous, I'm pretty sure Junior just has a bad car today. Why would he stop caring when he's actually got a legit shot at winning the title? I think you take NASCAR, and Junior's success in general, a little too seriously. Our favorite drivers are all going to have bad days sometimes. It happens. It's a part of racing. The world won't end if Junior doesn't get a good finish or if he doesn't end up contending for the title. Killing yourself over Junior is TOTALLY not worth it. What would your friends, family, and loved ones think if you did that? 107. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I was wrong. Keselowski to the lead. 108. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick loses the lead as he may be having an issue. 109. epzik8 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I missed that lead change! 110. David posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "And i mean that in a funny way. Not a mean way." "HAHA!" isn't usually used to convey ill will on the Internet. Jeff Gordon was closing in on the lead before that caution, so he might have a good chance at the win if this race doesn't have a lot of cautions (unlike last week). 111. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I was just clarifying. 112. MAR posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think jr is saving his stuff until Talladega 113. David posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:32 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) "Anyonymous, Just keep yourself alive." It'll take all his time and money, but he'll survive. :) 114. Anonymous posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) I know this has nothing to do with racing but does anyone know of any site I could go to to help me when I start thinking about this stupid crap? 115. Hinch27 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:33 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "I know this has nothing to do with racing but does anyone know of any site I could go to to help me when I start thinking about this stupid crap?" Not here. Ben Lowe will tell you a great place to jump and even see you off. 116. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I know this has nothing to do with racing but does anyone know of any site I could go to to help me when I start thinking about this stupid crap?" Have you ever thought about possibly seeing a psychiatrist or a therapist? 117. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kasey Kahne makes an unscheduled pit stop. 118. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvck with suspension problems. 119. joey2448 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Alright, Bears game is just making me depressed, so I've switched over to NASCAR for good today. For the third straight week, Jimmie is looking just average. At his best track. 120. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick, even despite his possible suspension problems, is battling back to try to take the lead from Keselowski. 121. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #Stroking 122. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I Was replying to @119 123. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Caution out because Danica was about to get lapped. 124. murb posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Caution, terrible break for Kasey Kahne. 125. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Caution as JJ Yeley hits the wall. 126. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Casey ruins Kasey's day. 127. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Or apparently, because J. J. Yeley brushed the wall. Kahne is now caught two laps down. This might just take him out of the Chase. 128. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Thanks Dale for not knowing the difference from 13 and 32. 129. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jimmie Johnson gains a spot in the pits while Gordon loses numerous positions. Looks like Chad Knaus successfully kidnapped Gordon's pit crew after all... 130. epzik8 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Still no scheduled green flag stops. 131. epzik8 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Still no scheduled green flag stops. 132. Anonymous posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'll stop this talking stupid shit. Just wondering, who are some of your favorite football teams(I saw a post about the bears) I personally like any team in the NFL except the ravens and cowboys. 133. David posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "For the third straight week, Jimmie is looking just average. At his best track." Well, it looks like my initial prediction (which I never told anyone) about Johnson's run today were correct. Now we're just waiting for the hammer to fall. Harvick's new crew gains him the lead back, while the #24 has a terrible stop. 134. epzik8 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sorry for the double post. 135. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Johnson has looked average all day, but now he's up to third and battling for second on the restart. Go figure, you know he's going to end up being a major factor at Dover at some point... 136. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Now we're just waiting for the hammer to fall." hahahahahahaha! 137. racefangurl posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Almirola tells us in this Chase format, a blown engine will hurt your chances of Chase advancement, particularly if you don't win. Joey's running better than he was, but I'm living in bliss as far as this race goes, since Joey's a winner and locked in. 9th in the race as I post this. 138. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Almirola needs a caution NOW if he wants to keep his Chase hopes alive. 139. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Johnson has made a Breakthru! 140. David posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:50 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) "Johnson has made a Breakthru!" I quite literally just thought about making that reference, except I would've spelled the word correctly. If Johnson's history at Dover is any indication, Keselowski and Harvick are going to be under pressure, as he's a man on the prowl. 141. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ^Double refrence! 142. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I have no idea how Harvick is leading with suspension problems. It's a kind of magic. 143. David posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The #43 team must be lazing on a Sunday afternoon, as Almirola has good company among the lapped cars. Allmendinger is two points behind the cutoff, so he's not done. 144. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick is about to put Kahne back two laps down. 145. murb posted: 09.28.2014 - 3:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I know it's not over, but I think Kahne is done. That caution REALLY killed his chances. 146. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick has staying power at the front of the field, while Kahne has to fight from the inside. 147. epzik8 posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The Roush cars are 16th, 17th and 18th. 148. MAR posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Im still rooting for A.J 149. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Almirola is about to go two laps down. Also, Harvick has more than a 3 1/2 second leaf. I'm guessing that Jacques is going to make his triumphant return soon... 150. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I meant LEAD, obviously...LEAF?! Really? Allmendinger now goes back a lap down. 151. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Josh Wise has now dropped out of the race, joining Timmy Hill. 152. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kahne makes a green flag stop and is really in deep water. 153. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Almirola comes in for a stop as we approach green-flag pit stop time. 154. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think that Kahne will be a loser in the end. 155. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick must be in love with his car considering he has dominated the race. 156. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Matt Kenseth and Clint Bowyer lead laps during this round of pit stops. 157. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Tire problems for the 4. Anyone's race now. 158. murb posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick flat left front. Geoff Bodine 1994. 159. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick has blown a tire and slides up near the wall. 160. epzik8 posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Are you kidding?! 161. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick blows tire. Caution. 162. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Caution is out now. 163. Benjamin Lowe posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:17 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) This place used to produce great racing in the past what the heck caused the quality of racing at this place to go off a cliff. 164. David posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kevin Harvick with a flat. Don't lose your head, Kevin. 165. MAR posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick's luck is unbelievable 166. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This is now probably Keselowski's race to lose seeing as he's spent virtually this entire race running second. 167. David posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Who wants to lead forever, anyway? 168. New14 & 88Fan posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If Harvick didn't have bad luck he'd have none at all. 169. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Busch moves to second and sets his sights on Keselowski in his quest for the weekend sweep. 170. Benjamin Lowe posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) and just as I type about the lack of excitement Harvick blows a tire while leading. 171. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It's late, but not too late for Kevin Harvick to fight back. 172. David posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Busch, out of nowhere, runs second. He's been an invisible man until now. 173. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ^ Incredible how he can. 174. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kahne is moving back up now as he's passing Allmendinger to put him the second car a lap down. If Kahne can catch a caution at the right time and get back on the lead lap, his Chase might not be over... 175. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gordon is catching Brad for the lead. 176. murb posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:36 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Gordon has a great long run car. 177. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gordon right there. 178. murb posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:37 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Typical Keselowski complaining about lapped traffic, even though if he was a lapped down he would be racing the hell out of everyone. 179. Hinch27 posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:37 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) As DW would say, "Aeropush! Aeropush!" 180. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gordon has a great long run car. He has all year. If some of these races went on long green runs to the finish, Jeff would easily have another win or two. 181. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kes leads at 3/4 distance 182. epzik8 posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Inside of 100 laps to go. This is where it could get interesting. 183. The Long Shot posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:42 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) You'd think people would have had enough of silly Queen references, but I look around me and I see it isn't so... 184. epzik8 posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gordon to the lead! 185. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) With a little over 90 laps to go, Gordon moves past Keselowski on the high side to take the lead for the first time today. 186. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Daniel is crying tears of joy now. 187. David posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm rather surprised myself. 188. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kurt Busch is now just 1 point ahead of Kahne now. Kahne's hopes are still very much alive at this point. 189. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And now they're tied in points. 190. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If they went green all the way to the finish, Gordon would win this one going away (barring a botched final pit stop). Of course, we all know they won't go green to the checkered... 191. David posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) None of the Chasers' hopes, save for Almirola's, are dashed just yet. 192. Guy posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) NASCAR will rob yet another win from gordon with a bullshit caution 193. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kurt Busch surrendered a couple of positions, and now Kahne is back in the Chase for the time being. 194. Mr X posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If Kevin Harvick can get a caution, he could get back into the top 10, otherwise he is in a little bit of danger of being lapped. 195. Mr X posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think Hamlin just blocked Biffle from his pit box. 196. Hinch27 posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:56 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "You'd think people would have had enough of silly Queen references, but I look around me and I see it isn't so... " That's Paul McCartney... 197. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Junior is about to get lapped. 198. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 4:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And Keselowski is starting to cut back into Gordon's lead. He's got it down to a second and a half. 199. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Now he's got it down under a second. 200. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And now Brad has caught Jeff. 201. epzik8 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gordon laps his teammate. 202. The Long Shot posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "That's Paul McCartney..." I wanted to shake things up a little bit. Penske's dominance over the last few weeks has been incredible. 203. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kurt Busch is starting to move forwards again. It's going to be really close between Busch and Kahne as to who makes the next Chase round... 204. joey2448 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) As it stands right now, Kurt Busch and Kasey Kahne are tied in points for the final spot into the next round! TIED!!! 45 laps to go. 205. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlins just 4 points out front. 206. joey2448 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hey anonymous, guess what? Junior is a lap down. The sky is falling. 207. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) COME ON HAMLIN MAKE IT IN!!!!!!! 208. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Just 16 cars on the lead lap with a little over 40 to go. 209. Zackary Shawn posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wow, Harvick took a point from his teammate with that pass. Kind of surprising to me. 210. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Looks like ESPN wants a late race caution... 211. Jarrett88fan posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) At what point do team orders come into play for Stewart Haas Racing? 212. Zackary Shawn posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think ole Gordo will hold on today since he's still leading and it's getting to that point where his car runs better than Brad's. 213. murb posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:11 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) I'm not gonna lie, this is really exciting. If they would just dump the stupid Homestead Super Bowl Gimmick Fest, this Chase system would be great. 214. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wow. Only 13 cars on the lead lap. 215. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Im sweating bullets. COME ON DENNY! MAKE OIT In!!!! 216. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick is now the last car on the lead lap. 217. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:13 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I'm not gonna lie, this is really exciting. If they would just dump the stupid Homestead Super Bowl Gimmick Fest, this Chase system would be great. Like I've said 10 or so times, just let them carry wins over through the entire Chase. 218. joey2448 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick passing his teammate to knock him out of the next round (as they run). Remind anyone of the Truck race at Fontana, 1999? lol... 219. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If Denny can stay where he's running, he should be safe. 220. Jarrett88fan posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If it stays green, Kahne is on to the next round. 221. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kahne passes Biffle, moving him up into the top 20. 222. murb posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I wonder how Kurt will react if it does turn out that Harvick costs him a Chase spot, lol. 223. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kurt is about to get passed by his boss. 224. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Tony is trying real hard not to instinctively pass Kurt. 225. David posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Im sweating bullets. COME ON DENNY! MAKE OIT In!!!!" I think he's pretty safe now. I wouldn't worry. Kurt Busch, on the other hand... 226. Zackary Shawn posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And now Tony may take a spot from Kurt. That is pretty surprising to me. Although it's a moot point after Kasey passed Biffle. 227. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Stewart passes Kurt, costing Busch another point. 228. epzik8 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It's between Kahne and Kurt Busch for the Chase cutoff. 229. murb posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And now Tony passes Kurt and takes away the Lucky Dog spot. 230. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Michael Annett has gone to the garage. 231. Hinch27 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kurt getting passed doesn't surprise me. Tony only ever did any sort of team orders for Bobby back when they were teammates, and at most that was letting Bobby lead a lap. 232. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick is right in front of Gordon. 233. New14 & 88Fan posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gordon's coming up to lap Harvick. 234. racefangurl posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Almirola's Chase advancement hopes went up in smoke, I guess. Refers to his blown engine. If he hadn't had that, given the way, he would've had a better shot. 235. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (4) 12 cars on the lead lap. BO-RInG! 236. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 10 laps to go. 237. murb posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think it's actually pretty cool that they aren't doing team order bullshit over at SHR. Gene Haas probably isn't sharing that opinion right now, but that's a different story obviously. 238. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gordon's lead over Keselowski has grown to 3 seconds. Allmendinger is only 2 points behind Kahne, but he needs some luck if he wants to make it to the next round... 239. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Five laps left. 240. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gordon now has a five second lead with 2 1/2 laps left. 241. Zackary Shawn posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kurt Busch is now 5 back, so the passes by Kevin and Tony don't really matter ultimately since he'd still be 3 back without those two passes. 242. David posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:23 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) You were saying, DSFF? 243. murb posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gordon wins, and Allmendinger, Biffle, Kurt Busch, and Almirola are the first four eliminations. 244. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:23 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) HAMLINS IN!!!! HAMLINS IN!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! 245. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Continuing his trend so far this year, Jeff Gordon follows up a mediocre finish by winning the very next week. His 4th win of the year, his 92nd career win, and his first win at the Monster Mile since 2001! 246. epzik8 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) All right, Gordon! 247. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:24 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Chad is pissed. He had a couple members of Kahne's pit crew ready to move over. 248. BluesTravelerFan posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:25 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) DSFF, I'm afraid i may have some bad news for you.. 249. Sector posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) YES!! Congratulations Jeff Gordon!! Get that #5!! I'm proud of you guys (The entire 25 team)! 250. Jarrett88fan posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #92 is in the books. Is it ironic the four tracks Jeff has won at in 2014 are the same ones he won in 2001, the most recent championship. 251. someone posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Boring race but I am satisfied with the results. Gordon wins and Edwards is in!!! I'm expecting Edwards to be elim'd next though... 252. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin races his way into the next round of the Chase, and Kahne just barely manages to squeak in by finishing in 20th. Allmendinger, Kurt Busch, Biffle, and Almirola's Chases are over. I think the biggest shock of this race was that Jimmie Johnson not only didn't win, he didn't even lead a SINGLE lap. The last time that happened here at Dover? The spring race of 2007. 253. Hinch27 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Where's DSFF? Oh, right, hiding because he knows I want to punch him. Chad is going to go home and down a fifth of scotch to drown his sorrows. Hell, Gordo has more wins than Jimmie this year now! 254. Zackary Shawn posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) With the exception of maybe Kurt Busch (I thought Edwards would be eliminated, honestly) I think the bottom 4 are pretty much what people expected. 255. TS1420 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Eh. I give up on this season. 2015 & Daytona can't come fast enough. 256. joey2448 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) WHOOOOOOOO!!! BIG DADDY!!!! Four wins in 2014 is the most Jeff Gordon has had in one season since 2007! In a year in which Gordon is winning at tracks that he hasn't won at in years, he keeps with that trend. Jeff hasn't won at Dover since spring 2001. 257. Hinch27 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Indy is the only track Gordon has won at this year that didn't break a 13 year drought. 258. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:28 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) I'm sure DSFF is going to respond by mentioning that it's not October yet and that Gordon will fall off the pace once it comes around... 259. murb posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:28 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I feel bad for AJ. Hopefully he can get the hell out of Rolling Billboard Motorsports as soon as possible. In a legit ride, I think he'd still be capable of being a pretty damn good Cup driver. 260. Sector posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The picks I chose on NASCAR.com for choosing which drivers advance to the next round, aka being eliminated throughout the Chase, I managed to get 3 out of 4 of them correct. Hamlin made it & not Kurt Busch. Drat, so close. 261. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:29 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Also, how about Martin Truex in 7th? Great run for him considering how much he's struggled this year... 262. Sector posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) After both times Jeff Gordon finished 26th this year at Loudon, he went on to win the following race. Interesting statistic there. 263. Jarrett88fan posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) I'm not sure Chad is so much pissed at the change in race strategy as mentioned in the broadcast, but the fact that the #24 won at the Monster Mile, their personal playground. 264. racefangurl posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I thought 'Dinger might have a chance. He had a better chance than Almirola, after Almirola blew his engine. 265. epzik8 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:31 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) There's someone with a Matt Kenseth shirt in victory lane... 266. MAR posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sucks for A.J and Kurt Busch being eliminated congrats on Gordon for win #92 Im rooting for him to finally get title #5 and 100 Wins. 267. Sector posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I love this Kurt Busch. So blunt & honest, yet so calm. 268. Zackary Shawn posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:36 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Kasey Kahne expresses relief that NASCAR let the race play out. 269. 1995z71 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sucks for Dinger, he was 2 points away from advancing 270. 1995z71 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sucks for Dinger, he was 2 points away from advancing 271. Jarrett88fan posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yeah Jimmie finished third, but not even threatening to win and failing to lead a single lap is surprising. I predict "speed" will magically reappear at Charlotte as that will be the telltale signal race. 272. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:46 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) "I predict "speed" will magically reappear at Charlotte as that will be the telltale signal race." I don't want to see that happening, but I think that's what all of us half expect to happen. Gordon suddenly stops running as strongly halfway through the Chase and Johnson abruptly picks up speed and starts running like Gordon has virtually all year long. It definitely wouldn't shock me to see that happen. 273. Mr X posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jeff Gordon continues his trend of winning a week after a finish of 15th or worse, congrats to him on his 92nd win. Sucks that Harvick had his troubles, but they did a good job of getting to 13th without a caution in the final third of the race. The fact that the bottom half of the 16 chasers were so close coming in certainly made this race more interesting, even if the on track product was similar to Richmond in some ways. 274. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 5:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If not for the blown engine at Chicago while running solidly in the top 10, Almirola would have easily made the Chase even with his mediocre finish today. Curious to see who's going to end up 16th in the standings at the end of the year... 275. Jarrett88fan posted: 09.28.2014 - 6:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Exactly Schroeder, we expect a 2007-esque situation after Charlotte or Martinsville. Jr. addressed the speed issue as well. The difference between the #48 and #88 speed issues is apparent as Jimmie is 'only'a top five runner while Earnhardt runs in the teens. 276. Zackary Shawn posted: 09.28.2014 - 6:05 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "I predict "speed" will magically reappear at Charlotte as that will be the telltale signal race." Well I, for one, think Johnson won't win again until 2015 and I think Gordon has at least one more in him in 2014. 277. Zackary Shawn posted: 09.28.2014 - 6:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Also, Kyle Busch didn't have the horrible first round everyone (including me) predicted. It was actually quite good with top 10s in all three races. 278. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 6:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Also, Kyle Busch didn't have the horrible first round everyone (including me) predicted. It was actually quite good with top 10s in all three races." Yeah, I'm surprised. After how awful he ran over the past 3 months prior to the Chase, I seriously anticipated him being 16th in points by the end of this race. I've already said this before several times, but seriously, it would be amazingly ironic if Kyle actually proved all of us wrong by not only getting past the first round of the Chase (which he did), but making it all the way to the final four at Homestead. I doubt it will happen (I can easily see him getting eliminated in the very next round...after all, Kansas is the very next race on the calendar and that's his worst track by FAR), but well, you never know... 279. murb posted: 09.28.2014 - 6:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Also, Kyle Busch didn't have the horrible first round everyone (including me) predicted." True, but I have him now getting eliminated in the next round (along with Kahne, Edwards, and Newman, for what it's worth). He's been downright awful at Kansas since the repave (he's crashed out of three races and was mediocre there in the Spring race), he's always hit or miss at Charlotte, and Talladega is Talladega (he'll probably run well there since JGR has been arguably the best plate team all year, but "running well" and "finishing well" there are two completely different animals). Plus, he HAS to be getting worn out mentally from all of the lower series races (and he has double headers coming up at all three of the next three weekends). So I think that definitely will play into it too. So yeah, despite him proving most of us wrong in the first round of the Chase, I still have him laying an egg when it's all said and done. I'll be shocked if he makes it through to Round 3. 280. epzik8 posted: 09.28.2014 - 6:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This is also the first year since 2007 that Jeff Gordon has won at least four races. 281. Mr X posted: 09.28.2014 - 6:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 276. Zackary Shawn posted: 09.28.2014 - 6:05 pm Rate this comment: Like this comment (0) Dislike this comment (0) "I predict "speed" will magically reappear at Charlotte as that will be the telltale signal race." Well I, for one, think Johnson won't win again until 2015 and I think Gordon has at least one more in him in 2014. I agree for the most part, while I can't guarantee that Johnson won't win again this year, the fact that the 24 team is no longer in the same shop as the 48 team means I don't think they're in the shadow of the 48 anymore. I expect the 24 to lead the HMS brigade for the rest of the year. The 48 is paired with the 88, and the 24 is paired with the 5 in a different shop. 282. Seagal posted: 09.28.2014 - 6:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) My grid is still perfect. I have Newman, Edwards, Kahne and Hamlin out in the next round. 283. RaceFanX posted: 09.28.2014 - 6:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsor: #41 Kurt Busch- Haas Automation / Kurt Busch 500th Start 284. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 6:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) My picks for who gets eliminated in round 2 are Kyle Busch, Kahne, Edwards, and Hamlin. I can actually see Newman getting to round 3 if he can run consistently and get good finishes the next two races (which he has done much of this year) and survive Talladega... 285. Nascar Lead Lap Points posted: 09.28.2014 - 6:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsor Updates #42 Target/Clorox #99 Milwaukee/Fastenal #41 Haas "Kurt Busch 500th Start" #16 Post-it/3M/WB Mason #47 Hungry Jack/ACME/Scott Products/Crisco #26 Connect with Uponor Plumbing Systems #83 Burger King/Dr.Pepper #32 Keenparts.com / Corvetteparts.net #7 Cypress HQ/Pilot 286. dennyfan11 posted: 09.28.2014 - 6:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) I'm very happy right now. Not only did Hamlin make it in, but the season premire of The Simpsons is on at 8! 287. Anonymous posted: 09.28.2014 - 6:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) I can still dream of Jr winning again, but I'll never give up on him. 288. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 6:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I'm very happy right now. Not only did Hamlin make it in, but the season premire of The Simpsons is on at 8!" Not to mention tonight also marks the premiere of the big Simpsons/Family Guy crossover they've been hyping the living DAYLIGHTS out of practically ever since it was announced. Really hope that's going to actually be funny and not a pointless, clunky piece of crap like I'm half-expecting it to be... 289. Daniel posted: 09.28.2014 - 7:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gordon was faster than anyone. 290. someone posted: 09.28.2014 - 7:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) what happened to McMurray? i remember him running solidly in the top 10 but then like halfway through he randomly fell a lap down? also I don't really feel bad for harvicks bad luck, he spent the last 3-4 years lucking into wins so his luck is just evening out... 291. murb posted: 09.28.2014 - 7:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I was debating whether or not to predict Newman making it through over Hamlin, but I think Denny will run well enough at Kansas (one of his better tracks) and Talladega (he won there in the Spring, and he has by far been the best plate driver all year) to make it through. So I have him squeaking by over Newman (who will probably RCR his way through Kansas and Charlotte, only to be taken out at Talladega, just like what always happens to him). And as for my other predictions: I already talked about Kyle Busch in my previous post. Over his career he has proven to be wildly inconsistent, so I'll be tremendously surprised if he repeats the success that he had in the first three races. As for Edwards, he is not only driving Roush's trash equipment, but I think he has also subconsciously thrown in the towel on this year and his Roush career, so I don't see him even coming close to making it (unless he gets a miracle win at one of these races). And as for Kahne, I think he'll show flashes of speed at Kansas and Charlotte, but will inevitably either have things go wrong and/or he'll mentally check out when/if things do go wrong (Kasey has never been good at coming back from adversity - honestly, the only reason he made it in today was because Kurt's car just took a total nosedive in that second half). So yeah, I have my next four eliminations as Newman, Edwards, Kyle Busch, and Kahne, followed by Hamlin, Johnson, Kenseth, and Harvick (I just see more things like today happening to him) in the next group. My final four is still Gordon, Keselowski, Logano, and Dale Jr (I know he's gotten off to a bad start, but that Martinsville/Texas/Phoenix stretch should be enough to thrust him back into contention). I'll be really surprised if it DOESN'T come down to Hendrick vs Penske in the final four (Harvick would be the only monkey wrench, but like I said, I just think the "Bodine in 1994" luck along with the haphazard pit crew situation will do him in at the end of the day). 292. murb posted: 09.28.2014 - 7:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Really hope that's going to actually be funny and not a pointless, clunky piece of crap like I'm half-expecting it to be..." Family Guy has been nothing but that for the past four or five years (and I haven't watched any new Simpsons episodes in the past like ten years, but from what I've heard they've regressed a ton too), so I definitely wouldn't get my hopes up (if I was actually going to watch it). 293. Hinch27 posted: 09.28.2014 - 7:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Family Guy has been nothing but that for the past four or five years (and I haven't watched any new Simpsons episodes in the past like ten years, but from what I've heard they've regressed a ton too), so I definitely wouldn't get my hopes up (if I was actually going to watch it). " Family Guy was never anything but raunchy garbage inappropriate for human eyes to behold, and the Simpsons haven't been in 20 years. Prediction: clunker. 294. Bradley Thomas posted: 09.28.2014 - 7:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jeff wins, Danicant finishes 25th. 295. JG24FanForever posted: 09.28.2014 - 7:25 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Gordon moves past the Legendary Michael Schumacher, in professional motor racing wins, with his 92nd!! And he would be 44 points ahead of Earnhardt, without a reset. Kyle Larson would be 34 points ahead of Biffle ,for 10th, without the reset. Gordon has a combined wins, poles and race led most total of 260 now. The next closest driver in the Modern era, is Darrell Waltrip, with 212 total. 296. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 7:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I can still find Family Guy funny at times, but the show is so HORRIBLY inconsistent for me that I can find a real chore to watch at times (any time they try to tackle issues like religion or politics, they do a HORRENDOUS job at it). I can still laugh at the Simpsons too, but the show is definitely not as good as it used to be. I do think it would probably be best if both shows ended within the next few years or so, but they're both cash cows for FOX so I wouldn't be surprised to seem them stay on the air for another decade or even longer. I'll still watch it, but I have pretty low expectations for it. I'm not looking for anything amazing or earth-shattering, I'm just hoping for something I can at least find funny. That's all I'm really looking for out of it. 297. Ernest T. posted: 09.28.2014 - 7:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Agree with #293 but I'd be a little more charitable with the Simpsons; I was able to tolerate them up to about 15 years ago, before they became unwatchable. 298. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 7:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think it's really close between Hamlin and Newman for who gets past round 2 and moves onto round 3, but I just feel that Newman is more likely to get it in as he's been more consistent overall this year. Talladega is going to be the race to watch because it's so unpredictable; for all we know, somebody totally surprising could get eliminated there thanks to the Big One. As for who I think will be in the final four come Homestead, my guess is Keselowski, Logano (I would be incredibly surprised if either of the Penske drivers missed the final four), Junior, and either Gordon or Johnson. 299. Eric posted: 09.28.2014 - 7:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think Kasey has a shot making it to the 3rd round, but I can say that Denny also. I am saying that because of Charlotte for Kasey. I think Kasey or Denny is going to be gone after this round unless both of them win in the next 3 races. I think Denny can do good at Charlotte based on what he did at Atlanta since Toyota does has a little bit more horsepower than they did at 600 this spring and Denny could win at Talladega. I don't like Carl at any of these 3 tracks coming up with Roush equipment and he's going out after the 2nd round. Kyle Busch isn't making it out the 2nd round. My reasoning is the fact Kyle Busch stinks at Kansas and I don't like him at Talladega. Denny and Matt are better at Talladega than Kyle is. I think Newman is out. Newman and Talladega are a bad combination. If Denny and Kasey win in the next 3 races, I think Kevin is out. I am saying that because if Denny wins at Kansas and Denny wins at Charlotte, I think Dale Jr. would win at Talladega. My problem with Kevin isn't the driver, I don't trust the 29 crew. 300. Evan posted: 09.28.2014 - 7:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) * Jeff Gordon's 92nd career win and his first Dover Monster(clutching car) Trophy, which was not around when he won the spring MBNA America 500 in 2001, Jeff won the standard skinny and tall trophy like Tony Stewart won in 2000. Jeff is still in sole possession of third on the all-time list, he needs eight victories to reach 100 victories, Jeff needs fourtenn victories to reach David Pearson at 105. * OUT:Kurt Busch, AJ Allmendinger, Greg Biffle, Aric Almirola * IN(By wins):Brad Keselowski, Jeff Gordon, and Joey Logano 301. Eric posted: 09.28.2014 - 7:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) My final four is Brad, Joey, Gordon and Johnson. 302. Schroeder51 posted: 09.28.2014 - 7:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If not for Harvick's tendency to find bad luck (particularly, how unreliable his pit crew can be at times), I would definitely consider him the favorite to win the championship. If not for all of that, he would probably have close to double-digit win numbers already; he's definitely the fastest overall driver this year. 303. cjs3872 posted: 09.28.2014 - 7:54 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Wrong, Hinch27 (#357). While it's true that all four races that Jeff Gordon has won this year are on tracks on which he hadn't won in at least a decade, Dover and Michigan are the only two he hadn't won at in 13 years. While he did win the inaugural race at Kansas in 2001, he also won there the next year, in 2002, so his win there was his first at Kansas Speedway in nearly 12 years (Sept. 2002-May 2014). And with this win, #92 of his legendary career, Gordon is now just eight away from that magical 100-win mark, and the way he's going, he may get there in 2016. If and when he gets that 100th win, I think that will be one of the greatest moments in the history of the sport, regardless of where it takes place, should it happen. Gordon's resurgence is similar to the resurgence that Bobby Allison's career saw in the late 70s and early 80s, when he won every major race at least once, as well as his championship past his 40th birthday, and won the Daytona 500 at the age of 50 in 1988, and I don't think anybody believes he would have been through winning if not for his crash at Pocono in 1988. During that six-year period from 1978-'83, Allison won 33 times, and then twice more in 1984 before DiGard Racing finally began to fall apart. In all, 38 of Allison's 85 wins came after his 40th birthday. However, this new Chase resetting format is a joke. Now they're not giving those drivers the boost for the wins they've gotten this season for the second round? That means that the dominant drivers this year are no better off than the guys at the bottom, including those without a win that managed to get this far. Kasey Kahne, who barely squeaked into the second round, is in exactly the same shape in regards to the championship that Brad Keselowski, Joey Logano, and Jeff Gordon, the three best this year are. Where's the justice in that? And with Talladega looming, it's entirely possible that the current bottom four (including Kyle Busch, Carl Edwards, and Denny Hamlin) could be the four to move on, since they're at no disadvantage at all going into round two of the Chase. 304. Sector posted: 09.28.2014 - 9:01 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) On Raceday, it doesn't feel like Tony Stewart is even racing anymore. To me anyway. On a side note, wouldn't it be a grand moment if Chase Elliott AND Jeff Gordon were to win the championships, Nationwide & Cup respectively? 305. someone posted: 09.28.2014 - 9:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) kurt busch celebrates his 500th race by getting knocked out! shame, I was rooting for him over Kahne but at least you can't say shr doesn't obey the 100% rule! 306. racefangurl posted: 09.28.2014 - 9:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I agree with murb, Schroeder51 and Eric's Final Four picks. Any of these scenarios are possible. I remember picking a Final Four. I was thinking Gordon, Johnson, Logano and either Keselowski or Jr. I don't know if I named names here, but I did say here, it will most likely be a Hendrick/Penske final four. Either three Hendrick and one Penske or two Hendrick and the two Penske drivers. 307. RACE34 posted: 09.28.2014 - 9:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Pretty non-eventful race at Dover today for an elimination race, but the last few races at Kansas since the repave have been pretty action packed!! 308. Anonymous posted: 09.28.2014 - 9:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Careful Sector. Racefangurl prowls the Cup boards as well. 309. racefangurl posted: 09.28.2014 - 9:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) My dad kinda likes Jeff Gordon. I don't care about too much in regard the Cup championship, other than Joey making the Final Four. 310. Benjamin Lowe posted: 09.28.2014 - 9:49 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) It's time to make Brian France and his cronies disappear from the NASCAR scene forever and replace them with someone who has the qualifications of a leader unlike Brainless Brian someone who has a real plan to get NASCAR out of the mess that Brainless Brian created and someone who can restore NASCAR to it's former glory. 311. someone posted: 09.28.2014 - 9:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) is this loganos first race "leading" the points? 312. Sector posted: 09.28.2014 - 10:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) No, due to the tiebreaker, it's Brad Keselowski's lead at the moment. 313. someone posted: 09.28.2014 - 11:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) oh yeah i just saw on the standings when they were first put up the top 12 were ranked completely randomly so i assumed there was no tiebreaker... 314. someone posted: 09.28.2014 - 11:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) oh yeah i just saw on the standings when they were first put up the top 12 were ranked completely randomly so i assumed there was no tiebreaker... 315. WinstonCupStandings posted: 09.29.2014 - 12:10 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Top 22 (that are on the big teams) 1) Jeff Gordon (4143) -Leader 2) Dale Earnhardt, Jr. (3974) -169 3) Brad Keselowski (3961) -182 4) Joey Logano (3933) -210 5) Kevin Harvick (3793) -350 6) Jimmie Johnson (3791) -352 7) Matt Kenseth (3741) -402 8) Kyle Larson (3578) -565 9) Ryan Newman (3572) -571 10) Carl Edwards (3562) -581 11) Clint Bowyer (3433) -710 12) Greg Biffle (3431) -712 13) Kasey Kahne (3401) -742 14) Kyle Busch (3394) -749 15) Jamie McMurray (3382) -761 16) Denny Hamlin (3334) -809 17) Paul Menard (3300) -843 18) Austin Dillon (3252) -891 19) Brian Vickers (3248) -895 20) Kurt Busch (3170) -973 21) Marcos Ambrose (3044) -1099 -Out 22) Aric Almirola (2998) -1145 -Out 316. Mr X posted: 09.29.2014 - 12:58 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) This race also marked Jeff Gordon's 450th top 10 finish. 317. racefangurl posted: 09.29.2014 - 9:06 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think Carl Edwards, Kyle Busch, Kasey Kahne and either Denny Hamlin or Ryan Newman are the next 4 to be eliminated. Then, Matt Kenseth, Kevin Harvick, either Newman or Hamlin (depending on who of these two was eliminated before) and either Brad Keselowski or Dale Earnhardt, Jr. That leaves Gordon, Johnson. Joey Logano and either Keselowski or Jr. as the final four. 318. Anonymous posted: 09.29.2014 - 9:55 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Annett's car went out because of a broken axle. He didn't crash. 319. cjs3872 posted: 09.29.2014 - 10:08 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Actually, the drivers are listed in the points exactly as they were prior to the second reset, but after the points for this race were tallied, so the drivers are listed exactly as they would be if there had been no second reset. Brad Keselowski just happens to have the most wins, but he's listed atop the standings now because he was the points leader after this race. But the "tie-breaker" is actually the points standings prior to the reset, because that is how they're listed. Keep in mind that the winless drivers still eligible for the title are listed above drivers that have won for that very reason. Both Matt Kenseth and Ryan Newman, who are yet to win this season, are listed above Carl Edwards, who has won twice, because they were higher in the points than Edwards was at the conclusion of this race. 320. John Royal posted: 09.29.2014 - 10:23 am Rate this comment: (1) (1) #295. JG24FanForever Your comparison with Schumacher does not make any sense, as Schumacher scored 91 wins in 309 starts and Gordon 92 wins in 754 starts. Schumacher's win percentage is 29,4% Gordon's win percentage is 12,2% I would say that true master is Sebastien Loeb (9-time WRC champion), who's win percentage is 46,5% (78 wins in 168 starts) 321. The Long Shot posted: 09.29.2014 - 11:31 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) In IndyCar news, Simon Pagenaud will drive for Team Penske in 2015. Power-Castroneves-Montoya-Pagenaud is maybe the most drool-worthy team lineup I've ever seen. 322. murb posted: 09.29.2014 - 2:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Holy shit, Penske is gonna dominate IndyCar with that lineup. 323. Sean posted: 09.29.2014 - 3:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Their 1994 team of Al Unser, Jr./Emerson Fittipaldi/Paul Tracy was more legendary. Montoya belongs in the discussion with them, Power is as fast as any of them on road courses (but as mistake-prone as Tracy) and still not as good on ovals (although he's gotten much better), Castroneves has a history of always being second-best on his team except at Indy making him IndyCar's response to Jeff Burton, and Pagenaud seems like the next Gil de Ferran who will almost certainly win championships but more due to consistency and collecting finishes when other drivers make mistakes than his own dominance. Power and Montoya probably match Tracy historically, but I'm not sure Pagenaud does and I definitely think Castroneves doesn't, and I don't think any of them really come close to Unser or Fittipaldi. Having said that, this is still better than the previous 4-car Andretti powerhouse of Dario Franchitti/Tony Kanaan/Dan Wheldon/Bryan Herta in 2004-2005, and way better than the current Ganassi/Andretti 4-car teams. I would say (ranking the drivers from best to worst, and I'm *shocked* to be ranking Montoya as the worst for Penske, but this year he definitely was): Penske - Ganassi - Andretti Power = Dixon = Hunter-Reay Pagenaud > Kanaan > Hinchcliffe Castroneves > Briscoe = Munoz Montoya > Kimball < Andretti Ganassi and Andretti look about even, but I'm not sure how either thinks it's going to compete with Penske. Andretti has *some* hope if Honda has a much better aero kit than Chevy does. In that case, they would be a lot more competitive than their driving talent indicates. If Ganassi dumps Briscoe and replaces him with Sage Karam (as is rumored/hoped by many fans including myself), then I would put Karam > Munoz. 324. The Long Shot posted: 09.29.2014 - 3:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm curious about who Andretti would sign if the rumors are true that Hinchcliffe will move to Schmidt-Peterson next year. Wilson would be the best experience add, but Hawksworth is younger with tons of long-term upside. Or maybe they bring Veach or Brabham up from Lights, but they might not be experienced enough. 325. SpeedWorld97 posted: 09.29.2014 - 3:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Also, Kyle Busch didn't have the horrible first round everyone (including me) predicted. It was actually quite good with top 10s in all three races." But that's exactly what's wrong with this system. Kyle found a loophole with it, which means that a mainly mediocre season with one win and three good finishes in the first three races means he's suddenly a "championship contender" and on the same ground as Logano, Gordon, Keselowski, Harvick, and Earnhardt Jr., who have all easily been the strongest drivers this season. "In IndyCar news, Simon Pagenaud will drive for Team Penske in 2015. Power-Castroneves-Montoya-Pagenaud is maybe the most drool-worthy team lineup I've ever seen." Wow, that's great news, but I have to feel bad for Sam Schmidt considering Pagenaud brought that small team such success. I hope Schmidt and Mikhail Aleshin have a good season next year in spite of this. 326. Hinch27 posted: 09.29.2014 - 4:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Did I just have a comment get deleted or what...? 327. Hinch27 posted: 09.29.2014 - 4:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I found this curious especially as a Hinch fan "Pagenaud > Kanaan > Hinchcliffe" While Kanaan is clearly better on the ovals (where all the points are thanks to the double points and Indy 500 points), but on the same note Kanaan is usually 5-15 positions behind Hinch on the road courses. But I do agree that Pagenaud is much better than either of them, and I would make the following changes: Penske - Ganassi - Andretti Power > Dixon > Hunter-Reay Pagenaud >> Kanaan = Hinchcliffe Castroneves > Briscoe <= Munoz Montoya >> Kimball < Andretti Of course, I have included some biases in here because I am of the firm belief that without Ganassi Scott Dixon would have no more than 2 or 3 wins, and has severely benefited from the fact that in years where Ganassi was not the best the team just paid IndyCar to allow them to make illegal modifications (who do you think got Honda the illegal midseason engine changes in 2012 and 2013?). Likewise, I think Briscoe is a total hack, maybe one of the two or three worst drivers in the series. The only drivers I think less of right now are Carlos Huertas and Graham Rahal. Likewise, I think if Penske plays all fair, then the following will emerge: Pagenaud >> Power 328. joey2448 posted: 09.29.2014 - 4:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I'm curious about who Andretti would sign if the rumors are true that Hinchcliffe will move to Schmidt-Peterson next year. Wilson would be the best experience add, but Hawksworth is younger with tons of long-term upside." Hawksworth would be the best addition. That kid can drive! He put on a few impressive drives in IndyCar last year (most notably his run at the Indy Grand Prix in May), but also ran competitively in the Tudor Sports Car series, getting a win in the PC division at Indianapolis during the Cup race weekend. And great news to hear Pagenaud is going to Penske! He will certainly be in the mix for the championship in 2015. 329. 1995 Subaru WRX STi posted: 09.29.2014 - 5:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "But that's exactly what's wrong with this system. Kyle found a loophole with it, which means that a mainly mediocre season with one win and three good finishes in the first three races means he's suddenly a "championship contender" and on the same ground as Logano, Gordon, Keselowski, Harvick, and Earnhardt Jr., who have all easily been the strongest drivers this season." Kyle may have found a loophole but does anyone on here really think he'll be at Homestead? I certainly do not. Either one of those 5 guys you named will be there (minus 1 of course). Kansas is coming up and well Kyle sucks there. If Kyle Busch makes it too the final 8, color me suprsied. 330. Daniel posted: 09.29.2014 - 5:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 43 entered at Kansas: -Joey Gase in the #32 -#33 TBA -Michael McDowell in the #95 -#44 not entered 331. DaleSrFanForever posted: 09.29.2014 - 6:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hey cjs, did you see Ohio State's strength coach channel his inner Mad Dog Curtis and body slam that fan who ran on the field? Are you appalled? 332. 23andJoe posted: 09.29.2014 - 6:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #33 sponsor: Little Joe's Autos/Montero Medical Missions 333. Sean posted: 09.29.2014 - 8:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I found this curious especially as a Hinch fan" He's my second favorite driver in IndyCar but I was extremely disappointed with his performance this year and I was pretty disappointed with his 2012 performance too. Neither of those seasons was much better than what Danica was doing. 2013 is certainly more than she has done in her career, and he had Craig Hampson as his engineer that season, who got Sebastien Bourdais all four of his titles. Without Hampson, Hinch is mediocre. I hate to say it because I do love the guy myself, but his entertainment value exceeds his driving talent. Kanaan mostly bores me but he's a better road racer than you think. Kanaan impressed me in the first Houston race when he drove from near the back up to 3rd until getting punted under caution by Rahal, impressed me again on the Toronto weekend (especially the 2nd race, when he spun out on the first lap yet ended up passing Castroneves and Power who had dominated the race on the track, only losing because Mike Conway made the correct tire gamble). He was fine at St. Petersburg and Belle-Isle and probably would have had a strong run at Mid-Ohio had he not crashed on the first lap. I don't expect him to win on a road/street course again more than once or twice, but it wouldn't surprise me. Kanaan *does* struggle with setting up cars on road/street courses, but I think his actual driving is fine albeit not spectacular. Hinchcliffe on the other hand was nowhere all season. Yes, he had a concussion, and he had some bad luck (especially getting caught in the RHR/Newgarden crash at Long Beach) but he seemed to be a complete afterthought all year, while Kanaan was as strong as anyone in the second half (even on the twisties). Kanaan doesn't excite me, but you constantly sell him short, and you're overrating Hinchcliffe for his likability. I used to do that myself but I don't really see any future greatness there... Maybe he's a LITTLE better on the road courses, but I think it's only that Andretti had better setups in general than KV did. Now that Kanaan is with Ganassi which has comparable (perhaps superior) setups he's been generally more competitive everywhere. And this is with me agreeing that I like Hinchcliffe much more. Also, as much as I hate the double points myself, they're no worse than the street course doubleheaders which equally screw up and bias the schedule. If you insist on having them, cut the points in half and have all rounds scoring the same points (as in V8 Supercars), and then cut the points for the 500-milers in half as well. That seems much more fair all around. Kanaan isn't regularly 5-15 positions worse on the road courses...maybe last year when Craig Hampson was setting stuff up for Hinchcliffe and Kanaan didn't know how to set things up, but even if Hinchcliffe is a better road racer and he might be, it's not by much. "I have included some biases in here because I am of the firm belief that without Ganassi Scott Dixon would have no more than 2 or 3 wins, and has severely benefited from the fact that in years where Ganassi was not the best the team just paid IndyCar to allow them to make illegal modifications (who do you think got Honda the illegal midseason engine changes in 2012 and 2013?)." I think Penske, Ganassi, and Andretti all have the ear of the officials and get away with some dubious stuff. I don't care for any of the owners but to act like Ganassi alone gets breaks and to act like Dixon would only have 3 wins without Ganassi seems ridiculous to me. Yet you still rated him over Hunter-Reay. Wow, that's saying something, considering he has won in weak cars that often (before going to Andretti). Dixon's 2001 was seriously impressive when he finished in the top ten in points in one of CART's deepest years ever and won a race while his teammate Mauricio Gugelmin almost finished last in points (a mere 4 years after Gugelmin finished 4th in points). Dude is a major talent. I don't care about him, but he is a major talent. "Likewise, I think Briscoe is a total hack, maybe one of the two or three worst drivers in the series. The only drivers I think less of right now are Carlos Huertas and Graham Rahal." I rate Briscoe really lowly myself, but I also rate Munoz lowly. He didn't lead any laps all season despite driving an Andretti car, he's strong on the ovals but nowhere to be seen on the road/street courses (or worse - making really dumb errors like crashing under caution at Barber, spinning in the pits at Texas, and wrecking his teammate Marco at whatever street race that was (Houston?) I still put Briscoe and Munoz over Marco over the entire schedule though. "Pagenaud >> Power" I agree with that. I weight dominance more highly than consistency myself, which I know you disagree with, and Power has been more dominant. However, Pagenaud has never had a car that is capable of dominating and he's definitely the least mistake-prone driver in the series. I expect he will eventually dominate while remaining consistent, as opposed to Power, who continues to make endless mistakes this late in his career (which makes him the next Paul Tracy, and it seems like he's going to continue to win one race, crash the next for the rest of his career... At least he got his title before Pagenaud got there...) 334. murb posted: 09.29.2014 - 9:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I agree with Sean on both Hinchcliffe and Dixon. I used to be really high on Hinchcliffe when he first started to become a popular driver (in hindsight, I think I might have overrated him due to his likability too), but over the last year he's really shown himself to be nothing more than an average driver at best. If/when he leaves Andretti (which seems pretty likely), I'm definitely not expecting much at all from him. And Dixon? One of the greatest ever in Indy Cars, bar none. In the last 10 or 15 years, nobody else in IndyCar has even come close to his consistency and year in/year out championship contention (Franchitti maybe if you don't count his Nascar hiatus, but I think Dixon is definitely more talented than Dario, so to me that's pretty much a moot point). Honestly, I'd even go so far to say that Dixon is even the best overall driver in IndyCar today. I know Power is (and has been for a while now) the hottest driver in the series due to his dominance and whatnot, but if I had to pick one driver to drive for me over the course of an entire season, I would pick Scott Dixon, and it's not even close. Dixon will be a threat to win at literally every race track, and most importantly, he will very, very, VERY rarely (if at all) make stupid mistakes (something that has become one of Power's trademarks). So if you were starting an IndyCar team, and your goal is to win a lot of races, compete for a championship, and have a level-headed driver who won't do stupid things, then wouldn't Dixon pretty much be the absolute perfect choice? He's pretty much THE ideal race car driver (except for the fact that he's kind of boring, but I really don't give the slightest damn about that at all - I'd much rather win championships than have someone be funny in commercials or whatever). 335. Sean posted: 09.29.2014 - 10:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If I were making a ranking I would indeed place Dixon first, but ultimately, I think Dixon, Power, and Hunter-Reay are pretty equal (Bourdais and Wilson would be next after those three and Pagenaud, but they've lost a bit from their Champ Car days). RHR just has atrocious luck and Andretti just frequently misses the setup in a way Penske and Ganassi just don't. Power is the better road racer and street course driver, Dixon is the best high-speed oval driver, and Hunter-Reay is the best short oval driver. It's basically just a toss-up over which you rate as being most important. I'd put Pagenaud in the same class as those three, slightly above Bourdais and Wilson, who are slightly above Castroneves, Montoya, and Kanaan. The rest of the field? Big meh. I *guess* Hinchcliffe in 10th right now, though I might take Newgarden too. 336. cjs3872 posted: 09.29.2014 - 10:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) My answer to your question is a simple one, DSFF. In a word, NO. That should happen to more of these morons that try to invade the playing fields, no matter the sport, because that may be they only way they'll discover that it's not a good idea to invade and intrude upon the sanctity of the competition. As Mike Curtis would say, he violated a city (and probably a state ordinance in this case, since it was a state university), and the assistant coach enforced it. If that happened more often, maybe those bozos would consider the consequences of their actions before running out onto the field to disturb the action on the field. 337. Hinch27 posted: 09.30.2014 - 5:01 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Oh yeah... I got a MAJOR pleasure out of last night's game... As for Sean, you make some really good points in that post, but I look at this: Hinch had two road course wins in 2013, which is more than Kanaan has had in his entire IndyCar/CART career. I don't know if Hinch's problem right now is the engineer shift (Which can be huge in IndyCar) as much as it is the Honda engines, which don't seem to suit his style. For Munoz, you are correct that he makes lots of mistakes, but lots of guys were rolling disasters their rookie year. Give him 2015, and then if he still is wreaking havoc, then you can toot your horn on that one. Don't get me started on Justin Wilson. There's a reason his nickname is "Badass." 338. Benjamin Lowe posted: 09.30.2014 - 7:15 am Rate this comment: (2) (0) Back to hades demon Patriots from whence you came. 339. racefangurl posted: 09.30.2014 - 9:19 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) How many Penske drivers will be in the Final Four and how many Hendrick drivers. Is Keselowski of Jr. more likely to make it to the Final Four? 340. racefangurl posted: 09.30.2014 - 9:23 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) drivers.=drivers? I gotta stop the typos. 341. cjs3872 posted: 09.30.2014 - 11:33 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) With Talladega looming in three races, just about anything can happen, racefangurl. I can see a situation where the last four drivers into the second round could be among the four advancing to the third round if they can all survive Talladega, which would REALLY scramble things at the top. Remember that a huge wreck can happen there with nobody doing anything wrong, and if it does and the top drivers in the Chase are in it, they could all be knocked out of championship contention if they haven't yet won, potentially leaving those at the bottom to survive and advance. And I still think that races in the next round can be won by drivers no longer in contention for the title, whether it's the four that just got bounced, or drivers not in the Chase at all, and if that were to happen, spots would be opened up for those trying to get in on points. Fortunately, it was the top 12 in points that advanced to round two, straight up, which is really the way it should be, but with winners guaranteed to make it into the third round after Talladega, only the top five in points are guaranteed to make it, so that fifth position in points could be vital at the end of the race at Talladega. And also, let's not forget that Denny Hamlin and Kasey Kahne were the last two drivers to advance, and their strongest tracks are coming up in the next four races, including all three in this round. Kahne turned his season around with a strong run at Kansas and Charlotte is easily his best track and Denny Hamlin has always been strong at Talladega, finally winning there earlier this year, and if he can get past this round, the first race in the third round is at Martinsville, which may be his best track, despite a poor run the last time they were there (Jeff Gordon wasn't that good there earlier this year, either). Hamlin and Kahne are now very dangerous drivers to the favorites (Gordon, Keselowski, Logano, Johnson, and Harvick) when it comes to competing for the title, or at least advancing to the round of eight, simply because of the tracks they're coming to. 342. Canadianfan posted: 09.30.2014 - 1:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) With Dale Jr set to turn 40 in a couple of weeks it is a good time to discuss the future of HMS. Jimmie turns 40 next Sept and Kasey is no spring chicken at 34. That being said that means next Sept 3 of the 4 HMS driver will be 40 and over. This a thought for the line up for the future of HMS tell me what you guys think. 2015 5 Kasey Kahne Contract Year 24 Jeff Gordon 25 or 9 Chase Elliott 7 races 48 Jimmie Johnson Contract Year 88 Dale Earnhardt Jr. 2016 5 or 9 Chase Elliott 24 Jeff Gordon 48 Jimmie Johnson 88 Dale Earnhardt Jr. 2017 5 or 9 Chase Elliott 24 Jeff Gordon Last Year or Last Full Season 48 Jimmie Johnson 88 Dale Earnhardt Jr. Contract Year 2018 5 or 9 Chase Elliott 24 Kyle Larson 48 Jimmie Johnson 88 Dale Earnhardt Jr. 2019 5 or 9 Chase Elliott 24 Kyle Larson 25 or 00 Cole Custer 7 races 48 Jimmie Johnson 88 Dale Earnhardt Jr. Last Year or Last Full Season 2020 5 or 9 Chase Elliott 24 Kyle Larson 25 Some young driver we don't know about yet 48 Jimmie Johnson Last Year or Last Full Season 88 or 00 Cole Custer So what do you guys think. I could really see Chase replace Kasey in 2016 this seems very likely even if Kasey improves. Kyle to the 24 in 2018 is a dream but I feel a realistic scenario he will be in a contract year in 2017 and I don't think Chip will be able to hold on to him. I think we could see Jeff in the truck series partially in 2017 and full time in 2018 I don't see him hanging up his helmet after his Cup career is over. As for Dale Jr. I could see him moving his team to cup and driving one more full season or several partial seasons possibly in the 8 or 88 or going to RCR in some fashion. As for Cole Custer I feel he would be a good successor to Dale Jr. He seems to be very popular and talented it would work well at HMS. As for Jimmie 2020 seems like a good time to call it a career I predict two more Championships by this time for a total of 8. 343. 1995 Subaru WRX STi posted: 09.30.2014 - 1:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) POst #342 Junior said he wants too drive until he is 50. I personally do not thinkg he'll last that long. Not everyone is Harry Gant. I see Junior calling it quits before he hits 50. If Jeff wins the championship this year, i hope retires and hangs the helmet up (unless Rick wants him too stay until Chase is ready). For Jimmie, it'll depend on Chad Knaus. If him and Jimmie wins #7 or #8 championships, Chad will most likely step down and take a high role at HMS. What will happen too Jimmie depends. For Kasey he'll need too set the world on fire next year if he wants too stay (not winning the Cup but at the very least make it too Homestead and win more than 1 race.) Overall, Rick will have too make some choices here soon. Dover will be installing a new catchfence for next year. I'd rather have them take down seats (they are planning taking some down but more is needed) then install a new catch fence. But in the name of safety, i'm ok with it. (BTW Junior and Stenhouse Jr. though Dover was going too install lights) 344. cjs3872 posted: 09.30.2014 - 2:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And @342-343, we can't forget one other thing here. Rick Hendrick's not going be around forever himself, and he's 65 years old. So by the time some of these decisions have to be made regarding his drivers, we must also think about how Hendrick is going to handle the issue of who will succeed him in running HMS, because by the end of the decade, he'll be in his 70s. Hendrick had a plan of succession in motion, mainly because of his illness, but it was lost in the plane crash a decade ago, so he not only has to plan for the successors to his current drivers, but also his own successor as the man running HMS. If not, his organization could be in the same fix Roush, Richard Petty Motorpsorts, and even Penske find themselves in, an aging car owner with no clear plan of succession in place for when he's no longer able to run his team. Other teams, such as RCR, JGR, and the Wood Brothers have already formulated (and in JGR's case, enacted) plans for the team to run into the next generation, but Roush, RPM, Penske, and by the end of the decade, Hendrick are, or will be teams run by aging car owners with no plan of succession in place for when they can no longer run their teams. And although you have Michael Waltrip Racing, Chip Ganassi Racing, and Stewart-Haas Racing that could pick up some of the slack, it won't be nearly enough to carry over for another 20+ years. So team ownership depth could be a problem by the end of this decade and the start of the next one. 345. murb posted: 09.30.2014 - 2:52 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "As for Cole Custer I feel he would be a good successor to Dale Jr." I like Custer a lot, but he's all but guaranteed a ride at SHR, so there's no way he ends up at Hendrick unless something crazy happens. He'll either be replacing Tony in the #14 or Kurt in the #41 once he gets to Cup (or maybe even Danica in the #10 if she doesn't improve). As for the rest of the lineup, the only other sure thing I see is Chase Elliott replacing Kahne in the #5 (which will probably be renumbered to #9). I'm expecting Chase to not only win the NNS title this year (sorry, RaceFanGurl), but also next year as well (I really don't see him having any competition), so I will be SHOCKED if he doesn't wind up in the #5/#9 Cup car in 2016. And about Larson, I've said it before this year, but I really see him staying at Ganassi for quite a while longer. If he is this good there now, then logically, if Ganassi keeps churning out good race cars, he should be competing for championships in that ride in a couple of years. So I'm gonna hold off on talking about him going to Hendrick. If Ganassi regresses back to the garbage bin, then yeah, I absolutely could see him taking Gordon's place eventually. But if he and Ganassi keep growing together, I don't see him leaving there. He won't need to go to Hendrick if he already has his very own championship caliber team. I do agree that 2017 will probably be Gordon's last year though. That will be his 25th year, he very possibly could have his long awaited 5th championship by then, he could very well have his 100th win if he keeps up at his current pace, etc. So it seems like it would be the perfect year for him to have a Jeter-esque farewell tour. As for who replaces him in the #24 (which will probably be renumbered to #5 or #25, because I'm expecting Chase Elliott to run #9 once he takes over the #5), I think it's gonna be somebody that isn't even on our radar yet. In fact, how about this for a bold prediction: John Hunter Nemechek. He has shown in his limited Truck starts that he has a TON of talent, and also, his dad is a former Hendrick driver, so there's that tie in as well. I can definitely see Jr taking a chance on him and giving him an NNS ride in the near future (maybe after Chase moves up), and then, subsequently, Hendrick picking him to be Gordon's successor. So I expect something like that to happen with the #24. I think Larson will definitely be on Hendrick's radar, but like I said, if he keeps growing with the Ganassi and basically becomes Ganassi's very own version of Jeff Gordon (meaning that he is the one that turns them into a powerhouse), I don't see him leaving his Ganassi situation. 346. Smiff_2 posted: 09.30.2014 - 3:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "And about Larson, I've said it before this year, but I really see him staying at Ganassi for quite a while longer. If he is this good there now, then logically, if Ganassi keeps churning out good race cars, he should be competing for championships in that ride in a couple of years. So I'm gonna hold off on talking about him going to Hendrick. If Ganassi regresses back to the garbage bin, then yeah, I absolutely could see him taking Gordon's place eventually. But if he and Ganassi keep growing together, I don't see him leaving there. He won't need to go to Hendrick if he already has his very own championship caliber team." You hit the nail right on the head with that one, Murb. Ganassi's team as a whole has been making gains upon gains since they started running the Hendrick stuff at the beginning of 2013. Hell, MONTOYA almost won 2 different OVAL races last year! Then, you see what Larson (and to a lesser extent, McMurray) have done this year, and it's pretty obvious that Ganassi's on quite the upward trend. After yet another solid run in Dover, Larson continues to establish himself as a weekly contender for not only top 5's and top 10's, but wins. That first one is only a matter or time. As of right now, I'd say Ganassi is more competitive than Roush and Childress, despite the fact that those two teams put a combined 3 drivers in the chase. 2015 will surely continue that trend, as I look for both Larson AND McMurray to be serious Chase contenders next year (as in making it in). 347. racefangurl posted: 09.30.2014 - 4:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) So many people have Hendrick and Penske drivers as the four. Well, Kasey Kahne's a Hendrick driver. 348. The Long Shot posted: 09.30.2014 - 5:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "As for who replaces him in the #24 (which will probably be renumbered to #5 or #25, because I'm expecting Chase Elliott to run #9 once he takes over the #5), I think it's gonna be somebody that isn't even on our radar yet. In fact, how about this for a bold prediction: John Hunter Nemechek. He has shown in his limited Truck starts that he has a TON of talent, and also, his dad is a former Hendrick driver, so there's that tie in as well. I can definitely see Jr taking a chance on him and giving him an NNS ride in the near future (maybe after Chase moves up), and then, subsequently, Hendrick picking him to be Gordon's successor." Very interesting pick, and one that I quite like. The guy that I have as a dark horse to end up there is Ben Rhodes. Turner-Scott's Hendrick-affiliated, and Rhodes has the age edge over Nemechek (they were born in the same year, but because Rhodes was born in January, he can enter NASCAR full-time next year). 349. 1995 Subaru WRX STi posted: 09.30.2014 - 5:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "And @342-343, we can't forget one other thing here. Rick Hendrick's not going be around forever himself, and he's 65 years old. So by the time some of these decisions have to be made regarding his drivers, we must also think about how Hendrick is going to handle the issue of who will succeed him in running HMS, because by the end of the decade, he'll be in his 70s. Hendrick had a plan of succession in motion, mainly because of his illness, but it was lost in the plane crash a decade ago, so he not only has to plan for the successors to his current drivers, but also his own successor as the man running HMS." If Ricks son Ricky were still on this earth, i think he'd be running HMS right now. Sadly we will never know what Ricky would be able too do with his dads organization. "Then, you see what Larson (and to a lesser extent, McMurray) have done this year, and it's pretty obvious that Ganassi's on quite the upward trend. After yet another solid run in Dover, Larson continues to establish himself as a weekly contender for not only top 5's and top 10's, but wins. That first one is only a matter or time." Chip is set up for near term (Jaime) and long term (Larson). I just hope he does not screw it up. 350. Sector posted: 09.30.2014 - 6:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I would love to see Kyle Larson move up & take over the 24 car, since his current car is 42, it would be pretty damn well fitting for him to drive that car & not go back to the 25. No matter, I agree with the previous post. KLarson shouldn't leave Genassi, for one reason: Chemistry. He seem to have great chemistry there. Not until he's ready or if something were to happen, he shouldn't leave there. Though since both him & Chase Elliott (As well as Ryan Blaney, but he's stuck with Penske!) are my favorite rising stars, it would be great to have a couple as teammates! 351. Eric posted: 09.30.2014 - 6:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @342, A cup driver being 34 can't be called not a spring chicken, because cup are capable of being in their prime into the 40's. Cup drivers usually slow down when they are around their mid 40's. I am saying that because only 5 cup drivers even had 3 or more wins in a season after they turn 46. The Drivers are Lee Petty, Richard Petty, Harry Gant, Dale Earnhardt Sr. and Mark Martin. Jeff Burton's slowing down in 2011 was normal and Greg Biffle slowing down is normal also at his age as a cup driver. 352. Eric posted: 09.30.2014 - 6:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @346, The problem with RCR is the drivers more than the equipment. There is a reason last season that Kevin Harvick depended on Kurt Busch for race set up and that is due to having a past your prime driver and a 3rd tier driver being Paul Menard. When your number one driver is really a 2nd tier driver, there is a problem with the drivers you have. Austin Dillon is never going to be a first tier driver, I think he'll be a 2nd or 3rd tier driver at best on the cup level. Paul Menard also is a 3rd tier driver. 353. Eric posted: 09.30.2014 - 7:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Stewart-Haas may also need a replacement down the road for Kevin Harvick. Kevin is going to be 39 in December. The question mark is how long Kevin is going to say in his prime. It is a question mark how Kevin is going to be when he hits 43, 44, or 45 years old. 354. cjs3872 posted: 09.30.2014 - 7:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And that was the point of that specific comment, 1995 Subaru. While many people are wondering about who's going to drive the cars at HMS in about six or seven years time, the real question to ponder is whether there will even be a Hendrick Motorsports at that time, because of the age of the car owner. As I noted in that post, Rick had a plan of succession in place, mainly because of his own legal and health issues in the late 90s, but that was all wiped out in that plane crash, because not only was his son Ricky killed in that plane crash, but so was his brother John, who ran the organization when Rick was having his legal, and most importantly, his health problems from 1996-'99. When he ran into those problems beginning in 1996, he came up with a plan to keep his organization going if he had to go to prison for a long time, or if he had been killed by the Leukemia he had contracted at about the same time he ran into his legal problems. And Eric, I think the sport is changing, in terms of what age a driver begins to fade. You're right, for many years, that age was somewhere in their middle 40s, but I think that age now is the late 30s to early 40s, and that has to do with when they begin their Cup careers. Since they're beginning earlier, the point at which they begin to fade is also coming earlier. That is why I generally use the criteria of 17 years and/or 550 starts as the point where a driver's career begins to fade, which is why Jeff Gordon's sudden resurgence this year is so shocking. He experienced the "post-17/550 fade" the last several years (his 17th season was in 2009), but has turned back the clock this year as if this were 1997 all over again, not 2014. Back a generation or two ago, a driver would reach their 17th season in their mid-to-late 40s, but for this generation of drivers, that's coming earlier. For instance, both Kevin Harvick and Jimmie Johnson will be in their early 40s during their 17th season (both were born in 1975 and began their Cup careers in 2001 and 2002, respectively), Kyle Busch would be in his mid-to-late 30s in his 17th season, if he lasts that long, and thinking well ahead, Kyle Larson would be where Harvick and Johnson are, age-wise, during his 17th season, which wouldn't be until 2030, and Joey Logano would be just 34 years old when his 17th season begins, and that still wouldn't be until 2025. But guys like Greg Biffle and Matt Kenseth represent what it used to be, when you reach that mark around your mid-40s. Even Trevor Bayne, who's Cup career will begin in earnest a full four years after his Daytona 500 win, would still be "only" 40 when he begins his 17th season, if his health allows him to stick around that long. And no, I do not count partial seasons in that season count, only full seasons. If I did, Bayne would be 36 at the time of his 17th season in the Cup Series. I think age is, for the most part, overrated when it comes to when a driver begins to lose it. I base it more on how long they've been around, because many of the greats began to lose it after that 17th season, including Dale Earnhardt, Rusty Wallace, Darrell Waltrip, and David Pearson. And it looked as if Jeff Gordon was headed that way, but he seems to have gotten a rebirth of his career. The question here is, will that extend to next year, or will this season be Gordon's last hurrah? 355. racefangurl posted: 09.30.2014 - 8:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I hope Trevor Bayne can stick around that long. I believe it could happen, but time will tell. I'm pretty much sunshine and rainbow in how I view his future. I'm a Joey fan and I believe he'll have a championship or a few by the time he 34. I can't wait to see the future of NASCAR! 356. JG24FanForever posted: 09.30.2014 - 9:59 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Your comparison with Schumacher does not make any sense, as Schumacher scored 91 wins in 309 starts and Gordon 92 wins in 754 starts." Why are you guy's so obsessed with being right? Where in my comment am I making a comparison? I simply stated that he surpassed him in pro racing wins. Thanks. 357. DaleSrFanForever posted: 09.30.2014 - 10:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Jeff Gordon fans, I'm afraid I've got some bad news. In less than 2 hours East coast time, the calendar will turn to October, and Jeff is in championship contention. This has happened 9 times before in his 22 seasons. Although he has brought home 4 Winston Cups, 8 of those previous 9 times saw a disastrous stretch run. In 1998 he held up and continued the blistering pace he had been setting. The rest? Ugly. Four times he saw a great shot at a title disappear in uninspired runs ('96, '02, '04, '07). Twice he damn near coughed up huge points leads only to be saved by the bell in the pre chase days ('95, '97). And once he had an uninspired stretch run in the Fall that didn't matter cause the ones who had been chasing him did even worse, allowing him to cruise home to the title despite zero Top 5s after September ('01). It has been a dream season for Wonderboy. A throwback season. Wins as Kansas, Indy, Michigan, and Dover. Is this 2001 or 2014? Better hope its not too much of a throwback. Of his career wins in October and November, he has the 3 foot to the throat wins in '98, the back to back wins in '07 before getting blitzed by the 48, and then a bunch of wins, mostly at Martinsville, after he was well out of title contention. Enjoy this week Rainbow Nation. 358. David posted: 09.30.2014 - 10:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I'm a Joey fan and I believe he'll have a championship or a few by the time he 34." He may have one before the year is out... "That is why I generally use the criteria of 17 years and/or 550 starts as the point where a driver's career begins to fade, which is why Jeff Gordon's sudden resurgence this year is so shocking." It hasn't really shocked me. He and that entire #24 team have been building up to this year by progressively getting better, even if the season stat-line didn't show it. I'll admit that I didn't seriously expect four wins (which is the most of any Hendrick driver, by the way), but I can't say that Jeff Gordon didn't have this season coming. 359. Mr X posted: 10.01.2014 - 12:49 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) One very important detail that I feel hasn't really been brought up in regards to who locks themselves into the next round of the chase is the fact that as the chase goes on it will become more likely that not all 3 races in the 2nd and 3rd round will be won by 3 different drivers who can actually lock themselves into the following round. Obviously there's no guarantee that any of the 10 chase races will be won by a chaser, or that all 3 races in the rounds will be won by 3 different chasers. While that happened in the first round, I'm not sure it will happen in the second and third rounds. 16 of 43 drivers had a chance to advance in round one, 12 of 43 will have a chance in round two, and if you really look at the odds behind having one of a particular eight drivers win Martinsville, one of a particular seven minus the Martinsville winner win Texas, and having one of a particular six minus the Texas and Martinsville winners win Phoenix, it looks more likely that more then 5 drivers will advance to round three on points, and more than 1 driver will advance to the final round that way, in spite of the seasons best drivers(and most likely winners) being the drivers who keep progressing and maintaining the opportunity to advance. #342 Canadianfan, I don't know when exactly it will happen but I really doubt Jeff Gordon will get a truck ride following his cup retirement. I see him retiring like Rusty Wallace did. Simply hanging it up at seasons end. 360. Hinch27 posted: 10.01.2014 - 5:54 am Rate this comment: (2) (0) "Jeff Gordon fans, I'm afraid I've got some bad news. In less than 2 hours East coast time, the calendar will turn to October, and Jeff is in championship contention. This has happened 9 times before in his 22 seasons. Although he has brought home 4 Winston Cups, 8 of those previous 9 times saw a disastrous stretch run. In 1998 he held up and continued the blistering pace he had been setting. The rest? Ugly. Four times he saw a great shot at a title disappear in uninspired runs ('96, '02, '04, '07). Twice he damn near coughed up huge points leads only to be saved by the bell in the pre chase days ('95, '97). And once he had an uninspired stretch run in the Fall that didn't matter cause the ones who had been chasing him did even worse, allowing him to cruise home to the title despite zero Top 5s after September ('01). It has been a dream season for Wonderboy. A throwback season. Wins as Kansas, Indy, Michigan, and Dover. Is this 2001 or 2014? Better hope its not too much of a throwback. Of his career wins in October and November, he has the 3 foot to the throat wins in '98, the back to back wins in '07 before getting blitzed by the 48, and then a bunch of wins, mostly at Martinsville, after he was well out of title contention. Enjoy this week Rainbow Nation. " Isn't ironic that the Dale Earnhardt fan gets so arrogant this time of year considering Earnhardt's arrogance (blocking the entire field to get his team a 1-2 in the Daytona 500) is what got him killed? 361. Walter White posted: 10.01.2014 - 6:27 am Rate this comment: (0) (2) I'm sitting here laughing at the whining about "team ownership depth" when that has been in my view the biggest issue in the sport since the 90's. Once the multi car teams took over, the death knell for this sport was upon us. Small single car teams dies out en masse. Weaker multicar teams also died out. And then came the bad economy of the late 2000's. Team ownership depth has been my main field of study in NASCAR for some time. I will discuss this at length in the future if Ebola or Obama doesn't kill us all. 362. Anonymous posted: 10.01.2014 - 6:51 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) Webmaster, please delete this post above. That last sentence is disgusting. 363. racefangurl posted: 10.01.2014 - 9:18 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) he=he's, in my last post. I was in a hurry when I typed it. Joey could be champion this year if he's one of the Final Four. David,That post was in reply to the post about how old he and other drivers will be when their 17th full season starts. I was projecting what Joey might achieve by then. 364. Scott B posted: 10.01.2014 - 10:03 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Speaking of team depth, Mike Ford has parted ways with BK Racing. I wonder how much more behind the scenes turnover that operation will have in the offseason. It'd be nice to see Alex Bowman and Cole Whitt get a chance somewhere else, even if it was a team that's not competitive now, but is at least going in the right direction as far as building for the future. 365. DaleSrFanForever posted: 10.01.2014 - 10:42 am Rate this comment: (1) (1) Hinch, what does that have to do with anything? Yeah he threw a block at a plate race. You know who else has? Everyone (2002 Daytona 500 anyone?). His arrogance was his disregard of safety. Besides, all those he Earnhardt arrogance in the world doesn't change the fact that Jeff Gordon is a late season choker. He had one really strong Fall while in a championship battle, but he is still a choker. Peyton Manninf and Brett Favre both have a Super Bowl ring, but they are both chokers. Steve Young had a historic run through the 1994 playoffs including breaking Super Bowl records, but he is still a choker. Just like Jeff. Many legends have the dreaded big game/race choker label. It happens. Not everyone can be Joe Montana, Michael Jordan, Dale Earnhardt, Bill Russell, Derek Jeter, Bob Gibson, or Jimmie Johnson. These legends who were just as good, if not better, when the pressure is the highest, are a very rare breed. A breed that does not include Jeff. 366. Sean posted: 10.01.2014 - 1:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "One very important detail that I feel hasn't really been brought up in regards to who locks themselves into the next round of the chase is the fact that as the chase goes on it will become more likely that not all 3 races in the 2nd and 3rd round will be won by 3 different drivers who can actually lock themselves into the following round." I'm not sure I agree. Hendrick and Penske have now won the last SEVENTEEN normal races (excluding the plate tracks/road races which are outliers). There are only two teams and six cars (subtract Kahne and add Harvick) who are really threatening everywhere, and Junior is borderline. I could easily see 4 of these 5 making the final round (2, 4, 22, 24, 48) and whichever four those are winning every race for the rest of the season. Even 1998 had more depth than this season and I'm not kidding. Sure, the racing isn't as single-file as THAT year was, but I'd say the competitive depth has never been worse. You have the Hendrick/Penske cars and everyone else feasting for scraps. This year, even Stewart-Haas isn't really competitive (except Harvick, who keeps dominating and finding new ways to lose like the answer to Geoff Bodine in 1994 or Jeremy Mayfield in 2000). This is what's actually led me to change my mind on Kyle Larson. For most of the season I wasn't particularly impressed because he wasn't fighting for race wins or fighting for the lead much at all, and I was really tired of hearing from everyone how much better he was than Montoya when he did nothing to prove it (since Montoya was actually fighting for race wins last year while Larson wasn't), but considering NO ONE is winning except the Hendrick/Penske cars (not even the other cars with Hendrick engines) I think Larson and McMurray are doing an awesome job. They're at least regularly outrunning the Roush, Childress, and now even the Gibbs cars usually. Having said that, they have Hendrick engines so that may be the only reason for that. I still think Larson has been overhyped by the media, but now I can acknowledge he deserved better than 17th. McMurray deserved better than 18th also. 367. racefangurl posted: 10.01.2014 - 2:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 2, 4, 22, 24, 48 is a list close to mine except mine would go 2, 22, 24, 48 and 88 with 2/88 the toss-up. 4's too streaky to be one of my picks, but maybe I try to hard to make it pure Hendrick/Penske. You're entitled to your opinion, but other's picks are close to mine. 368. murb posted: 10.01.2014 - 2:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Regan Smith will return to JRM next year, so he is now out of contention for the #9 Cup car. 369. Anonymous posted: 10.01.2014 - 3:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Nikki Lauda says formula e is not a real motorsport because, and I quote, 'The cars look like toys; they creep around the track one after the other.' In my opinion, formula 1 cars look just like formula e cars, and that one race sure had more action (at least head to head action) than most formula 1 races. Just my opinion. 370. Anonymous posted: 10.01.2014 - 3:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Nikki Lauda says formula e is not a real motorsport because, and I quote, 'The cars look like toys; they creep around the track one after the other.' In my opinion, formula 1 cars look just like formula e cars, and that one race sure had more action (at least head to head action) than most formula 1 races. Just my opinion. 371. Anonymous posted: 10.01.2014 - 3:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Whoops, sorry for the double post. 372. The Long Shot posted: 10.01.2014 - 4:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Regan Smith will return to JRM next year, so he is now out of contention for the #9 Cup car." I guess the report I saw that Nelson Piquet was getting the #7 car next year was false. While I'd absolutely prefer Smith over Piquet, I also wish Regan would get another shot at a Cup ride. In other news, Roo Motorsports is a newly formed organization in the Truck Series that will become the first ever Australian-owned NASCAR team. 373. SpeedWorld97 posted: 10.01.2014 - 4:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Nikki Lauda says formula e is not a real motorsport because, and I quote, 'The cars look like toys; they creep around the track one after the other.' In my opinion, formula 1 cars look just like formula e cars, and that one race sure had more action (at least head to head action) than most formula 1 races. Just my opinion." I can't really argue with that. Normally street races make a race car look sleek and quick through turns (IndyCar at Long Beach, F1 at Monaco), but the Formula E cars on the streets of Beijing looked sluggish at best. In addition, they sound awful, but I guess a lot of that has to do with the fact that they're electric-powered instead of an ICE. However, Ferrari can make a pleasant-sounding electric powered supercar with the LaFerrari, which has an electric V12 engine by the way, so hopefully Formula E can work towards something similar to that so that long time motorsport fans aren't quickly drawn away from the series. 374. 23andJoe posted: 10.01.2014 - 5:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If you want to be technical about it it's Formula E that is the real MOTORsport; Formula One would be an ENGINEsport. With my amusing pedant cap off, Lauda can, with all due respect, go pound sand; it doesn't matter how the cars look or how fast they are or aren't, if there are cars on the track undergoing free competition it is, in fact, 'a real motorsport'. 375. Hinch27 posted: 10.01.2014 - 5:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Slugger Labbe is being replaced by Jason Alexander as Paul Menard's crew chief effective immediately. 376. 1995 Subaru WRX STi posted: 10.01.2014 - 5:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Nikki Lauda says formula e is not a real motorsport because, and I quote, 'The cars look like toys; they creep around the track one after the other.'" This is coming from a man who drove cars that were unsafe, had manuel grearboxes, little too no downforce and are "old" my todays standards. I respect Nikky Lauda but he sounds like an old man telling the youngs kids too get off his lawn. I'd rather have Nikki demolish F1 for going far and away from what it used too be (DRS, KERS, flappy-padel gearboxes, 75,000$ steering wheels, trying too keep it 'cheap' when F1 will always be expensive, leaving tried and proving tracks *Bernie even threated too leave Monza because it wasn't up too FIA standards* and other crappy ideas Bernie Smith has come up with.) 377. murb posted: 10.01.2014 - 5:57 pm Rate this comment: (4) (1) "Slugger Labbe is being replaced by Jason Alexander as Paul Menard's crew chief effective immediately." His name is actually Justin Alexander. It would be pretty cool if it was Jason Alexander though, because then we could make a bunch of Seinfeld jokes ("Crew chief? But I wanted to be an architect!"). Menard has been virtually invisible all year though (even more so than usual), so maybe it was time to make a change. 378. Anonymous posted: 10.01.2014 - 7:04 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) isnt it great that the two elimination races this year, richmond and dover, were absolutely boring? WHO would have thunk it, that drivers would actually race conservatively in elimination races! 379. JRacingFast posted: 10.01.2014 - 9:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "isnt it great that the two elimination races this year, richmond and dover, were absolutely boring?" "WHO would have thunk it, that drivers would actually race conservatively in elimination races! " Yeah thats why im afried for Talledega i have a feeling there just gonna spend over half the race just riding around,,,,,Well at least half the chase teams will forsure 380. Eric posted: 10.01.2014 - 10:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @379, Remember the drivers raced Talledega conservatively during the chase last year even without the elimination. There are only ways to stop teams be conservative at Talledega is by making it the final race of the season, don't have any plate races in the chase, or get a rid of the chase. 381. Smiff_2 posted: 10.02.2014 - 9:17 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Honestly, I don't think it'll be quite so bad. There are gonna be a lot of non-chasers looking for that upset win, not to mention there *will* be a chase contender or two (or even more) going into Talladega *having* to win to advance. No matter how you slice it, 2/3's of the field will be driving their guts out (Rusty Wallace â'¸). 382. 1995 Subaru WRX STi posted: 10.02.2014 - 12:57 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Talladega could fall one of 3 ways: 1. Tame 2. Chaos 3. Both Personally, some guys will look for an upset, while guys who have won the first 2 races will more then likely hang back and guys who WILL need too win too advance will go for it. 383. racefangurl posted: 10.02.2014 - 3:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Maybe some plate ace not in the Chase will play spoiler at 'Dega. That's the prime chance to see a spoiler, 'cause of The Big One and plate racing in general. 384. cjs3872 posted: 10.02.2014 - 8:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Even before the return of the restrictor plates in 1988, Talladega was a wild card race, and that's especially true in the second Talladega race. Back when it was run in the summer, Richard Brickhouse, James Hylton, Dick Brooks, Lennie Pond, and Bobby Hillin, Jr. won that race, and that was prior to the restrictor plates returning in 1988. Of those drivers, only Hylton had won before, and for Hylton, his win at Talladega was the last of his two career wins. So there has always been the surprise factor at Talladega, even before the restrictor plates came back in 1988. The spring race has also had it's share of surprises (Buddy Arrington running third in 1979 foremost among them), but not as many as the second race has had. That's why I made the comment that if Aric Almirola and/or A.J. Allmendinger had made it to the second round, they could have used Talladega to get into the third round. (And they can still race for positions in the points as high as fifth at the end of the season, because they're not locked into positions 13-16.) And that's also why I think at least one of the favorites will not make it to the next round, and someone like Denny Hamlin, Carl Edwards, and Kasey Kahne may make it to round three of the Chase. 385. racefangurl posted: 10.02.2014 - 10:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I could see 'Dega causing a shake-up since it's the Chase wild card. I smell a surprise or a few there. A non-favorite advance is possible and maybe a small team driver that's a plate ace could win. I'd love it if the Wood Brothers got another win with Trevor Bayne there, as long as he can race it, but any small team has a chance. I feel it's the only way to see another Wood Brothers win with T-Bayne, probably. This is due to how small a team the Wood Brothers are more than Trevor's ability as a driver. If a driver qualifies and avoids trouble, like The Big One, that driver has a shot to win it. I have NASCAR love and am a big Trevor fan. NASCAR first, favorite drivers second, so the order in which I mention them has a reason to it. 386. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.03.2014 - 7:32 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @384, Ron Bouchard is upset that you forgot him. 387. DaleSrFanForever posted: 10.03.2014 - 8:20 am Rate this comment: (4) (1) Johanna Long won the track championship at Pensacola in Late Models, which is her third track championship in stock cars. Oh yeah, she is just 22 years old, driving for a team that had never won a championship before. She got the title despite not winning any races, to which she bemoaned "it stinks we didn't win a race". Compare that to Austin Dillon's joke of a 2013 NWide celebration speech. Yet, despite this, nobody in NASCAR will give her a chance. Yet Danican't, who has one total victory since leaving go karts, has a fully funded Cup ride. Life sucks. 388. racefangurl posted: 10.03.2014 - 11:20 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think Harvick will probably either be eliminated at 'Dega or Matinsiville. If he's bad at 'Dega, as in bad result, due to say The Big One and has no win earlier in the round to save him, he's gone. He's streaky, which means his chances of Final Four are less the Hendrick and Penske drivers. Unless 'Dega knocks out some this group. Then, I could see Harvick in the Final Four. Not a real Harvick fan, so I don't know his results at Kansas, Charlotte and 'Dega. He has won Martinsville. I remember his win there in spring a few years ago, because that race was on FOX and I could watch it due to that. 389. racefangurl posted: 10.03.2014 - 11:41 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) If he has no wins in the Elite Eight or Eliminator Round, then he'd be gone after Martinsville. As long as nobody from Hendrick or Penske's eliminated after 'Dega, I think these 6 and two other drivers will be the eight, most likely. Or Kasey Kahne will be the only one of the Hendrick/Penske group gone and three other (not Hendrick or Penske) drivers will make it to the 8. I could see 'Dega being someone like Kasey's saving grace. I don't see Harvick, Kyle Busch, Matt Kenseth, Ryan Newman, Carl Edwards, Denny Hamlin and Kasey Kahne making it to the Final Four. The ones of these that make the 8 will make it only that far, most likely. Other than Joey, I have no strong feelings either way about the Chase drivers. I do know Hendrick and Penske (Joey's team!) are the best teams. I'd love it if Joey won the Cup, which could happen if makes it to Homestead. If he survives 'Dega, I could see him make it all the way from sheer Penske power (refers to how good a team Penske is). I do think Joey's a good driver, but good drivers need good teams to truly show what they got. Even the best driver needs a somewhat good team to show their full abilities. At least, I think this is true. 390. murb posted: 10.03.2014 - 3:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I think Harvick will probably either be eliminated at 'Dega or Matinsiville." There are no eliminations at Martinsville. The next two elimination races are Talladega and Phoenix. 391. racefangurl posted: 10.03.2014 - 4:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ok, I guess, replace Martinsville with Phoenix. This Chase has me all confused. 392. racefangurl posted: 10.03.2014 - 4:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I don't know Harvick's track record at Texas and Phoenix. I meant I don't see Harvick going farther then the 8. 393. someone posted: 10.03.2014 - 4:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) well we got our first glance of harvicks dominance this season at Phoenix and he has like 5 or 6 wins there... 394. David posted: 10.03.2014 - 5:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I don't know Harvick's track record at Texas and Phoenix. I meant I don't see Harvick going farther then the 8." You happen to be in the right place. Look it up (using the handy dandy statistics that by total coincidence are also on the site), and then get back to us. 395. The Crimson King posted: 10.03.2014 - 5:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @387 One aspect I dislike about F1 (and I really, really like F1, probably more than Nascar) is pay drivers. Tons of potentially great F1 drivers never got a shot because of money. Sucks that same mentality has been creeping into Nascar more and more every year. 396. BluesTravelerFan posted: 09.20.2017 - 4:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yeah Jeff Gordon totally sucked in the fall.. 397. Erik Jones Fan posted: 07.26.2018 - 10:16 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) The 200th and probably the last start for David Stremme. 398. Mile501 posted: 11.12.2019 - 8:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) After realizing that it is difficult to find the point standings before each playoff reset (this website, along with NASCAR's official reports, only shows points after the reset), I am posting them for each playoff elimination race. Here are the points at the conclusion of this race, before the reset (with drivers who won a race during this round listed first): 2014 Challenger Round 1. Brad Keselowski (1 win) 2. Joey Logano -4 (1 win) 3. Jeff Gordon -23 (1 win) 4. Kevin Harvick -17 5. Jimmie Johnson -19 6. Kyle Busch -29 7. Dale Earnhardt, Jr. -36 8. Matt Kenseth -43 9. Ryan Newman -49 10. Carl Edwards -49 11. Denny Hamlin -59 12. Kasey Kahne -61 -- Eliminated -- 13. A.J. Allmendinger -63 14. Kurt Busch -67 15. Greg Biffle -68 16. Aric Almirola -79 399. 12345Dude posted: 02.12.2020 - 4:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Thank you for doing these Mile. 400. Rich posted: 09.25.2020 - 3:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Allen Bestwick, Andy Petree and Dale Jarrett were the commentators. Dr. Jerry Punch, Dave Burns, Vince Welch and Jamie Little were the pit road reporters. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Post a comment:* Your comment may not appear immediately - all comments must be approved by the moderator. Name: Comment: