|| *Comments on the 2015 Crown Royal Presents the Jeff Kyle 400:* View the most recent comment <#499> | Post a comment <#post> 1. someone posted: 07.25.2015 - 2:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Nice to see Tony in fourth, hopefully things turn out ok for him on race day. So I haven't seen the rules package in action, but I heard it's bad, is it? 2. The Long Shot posted: 07.25.2015 - 2:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ryan Newman's qualifying time was disallowed because of an improperly attached window net. 3. C posted: 07.25.2015 - 3:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Stewart 4th 4. MAR posted: 07.25.2015 - 3:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) I heard The package was horrible guys said they couldn't pass so expect a competion Caution every 5-10 laps 5. We need more Onion posted: 07.25.2015 - 3:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Well, it sucks that the #98 is in and the #32 is out... 6. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 07.25.2015 - 3:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Josh Wise in a roundabout way eliminated himself by running well enough in the 98 car for that car to have enough points to make the race. During qualifying, NBCSN mentioned that the few members of the 98 team pulled all-nighters to repair the car just to get a qualifying lap in. Despite that, it's difficult to see a car that's nearly 3 seconds slower than the rest of the field make the race. 7. Ernest T. posted: 07.25.2015 - 3:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) When NASCAR implements allegedly significant changes such as this new package, how much testing do they actually do before putting the final product on the track, as we are seeing this weekend at Indy? Or do they just throw a bunch of sh*t they pull out of their asses and see what sticks? It's NASCAR, so I think I already know the answer, but it's hard to believe they wouldn't get the input of the teams & drivers before making a bad situation (the racing here at Indy in recent years) even worse -- but it looks like that's exactly what they've done. 8. Daniel posted: 07.25.2015 - 4:03 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) In using fastest 43: #26 Jeb Burton & #32 Josh Wise Out using fastest 43: #31 Ryan Newman & #98 Timmy Hill 9. racefangurl posted: 07.25.2015 - 5:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Maybe this track will kick NASCAR out. It's more of an Indy track. 10. joey2448 posted: 07.25.2015 - 5:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Deja vu. The top-3 in qualifying matched the top-3 in quals last week at New Hampshire. Edwards, Logano and Ragan. Tony Stewart starting fourth at Indianapolis. Does anyone get the feeling the old Smoke will show up to jump start his otherwise disappointing season? 11. racefangurl posted: 07.25.2015 - 5:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Stewart heats up in summer, so maybe. 12. dennyfan11 posted: 07.25.2015 - 5:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (3) I think Stewart's done. 13. Matt Fink posted: 07.25.2015 - 6:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #9, This far into NASCAR's history at IMS, I don't think that will happen, personally I'd like to see the Xfinity go back to Lucas Oil Raceway aka. Indianapolis Raceway Park, and have IMS be a Sprint Cup only track. Before we know it the Trucks will be trying to get a race there too now that Xfinity race there. 14. MAR posted: 07.25.2015 - 8:26 pm Rate this comment: (5) (2) Honestly the success of the 94 Brickyard 400 was a blessing and a curse for nascar the france family grew big headed and forgot who they were yea its nice to pack the Brickyard with 350,000 fans that day but what did it make nascar a mainstream sport that grew in popularity real quickly but with one major success became a trend of horrible choices. Nascar decided that they were to big for the short tracks and the southern states nascar started to abandon their loyal fans they stop listening to them and started listening to new ideas from new corporate fans. on top of that Brian France has made this sport a mockery of it sold self now nascar can hardly get 200,000 fans at Indy while the Indy 500 has had a resurection in recent years Nascar keeps seeing a drop in attendance at Indy and the races have gotten worst and to make themselves seem more like a joke they drop kick (IRP) Indianapolis Raceway Park to the side cause a packed house of 30,000 in an Xfinity race wasn't enough now Xfinity Races are at the Brickyard with about 15,000 people bored to death. Mainstream money and the success of the 94 Brickyard 400 doomed nascar's longevity. 15. dennyfan11 posted: 07.26.2015 - 8:55 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bad news. 50% chance of thunderstorms at the speedway. Let's hope we can get this in. 16. dennyfan11 posted: 07.26.2015 - 8:55 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bad news. 50% chance of thunderstorms at the speedway. Let's hope we can get this in. 17. dennyfan11 posted: 07.26.2015 - 9:11 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Whoops, doublepost. 18. Smiff_2 posted: 07.26.2015 - 11:18 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) You have GOT to be f***ing kidding me. I'm so sick of dealing with rain delays this year...lol 19. Sarf52 posted: 07.26.2015 - 11:20 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Indy= Snoozer 20. Dave #38 Fan-Go Gilliland! posted: 07.26.2015 - 11:33 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Had this race had a start time somewhere around 1:00 or earlier, the rain wouldn't be a threat. As it stands the race has a 3:49 scheduled green flag time and the chance of rain is from around 4:00-7:00...and Indy doesn't have lights. 21. Nascar Lead Lap Points posted: 07.26.2015 - 11:43 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsor Update #62 Hampton Inn 22. Brad R. posted: 07.26.2015 - 1:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I wish Nascar would go back to the days of having races start between 12 noon and 1 PM 23. someone posted: 07.26.2015 - 1:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yeah, why does this race start @ 3:30, indy is in the EST isn't it? 24. Canadianfan posted: 07.26.2015 - 1:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The Tour de France Is finishing today that To me the only explanation 25. Woodbridge posted: 07.26.2015 - 1:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Correct, Indianapolis is in the Eastern time zone. 26. Matt Fink posted: 07.26.2015 - 2:00 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I think this race does need to be started earlier. I live on the East Coast(Pennsylvania) and its 2:00 Still a couple hours away from race time :( 27. Canadianfan posted: 07.26.2015 - 2:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Excerpt from Indianapolis Star article regarding late start time The Brickyard 400 will have its latest scheduled start time ever this year -- at 3:30 p.m. -- and Indianapolis Motor Speedway's president sees benefits to it. Among those benefits: Giving local fans time to attend church and offering more shade from the sun in the second half of the 160-lap race. "It should be more comfortable as the race goes on," track president Doug Boles said. Last year's race took the green flag at about 1:15 p.m. The July 26 race will air on NBCSN, and Boles sees positives in that, too. The Brickyard 400 will be the third in a seven-race stretch for the cable network, which should have momentum with stock car fans by that point. This will be the first year for NASCAR on NBCSN. "I don't think it will be confusing for NASCAR fans to find it," Boles said. "It makes more sense to be consistent (with channels)." Boles also thinks there it's a better time slot for fans in the western part of the country, and IMS has a relationship with NBCSN through coverage of the IndyCar Series 28. Driver X posted: 07.26.2015 - 2:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) It should also be more consistent with start times. If the race starts at 12:30 or 1pm, even if it were to rain, the race would be over or well past halfway. Imagine the Indy 500 doing something asinine like having a 3:30 start time. And plus I hope to God that the Trucks don't start racing here. It's bad enough they're at Pocono. Remind me WHY this race isn't on regular NBC again? 29. BMan0213 posted: 07.26.2015 - 2:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Totally forgot Chase was doing this race until I saw him walk behind Tony during his interview haha. Hoping he can pull out a run today somewhere around the top 20. I feel that would be a pretty good showing for his first time here in a cup car. 30. RaceFanX posted: 07.26.2015 - 3:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "The King of the Outlaws" Steve Kinser, she of his family, and a bunch of other sprint car guys are at the track to root in the old friend Jeff Gordon today. 31. Brad2TheHorse posted: 07.26.2015 - 3:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @28 The Tour de France is on NBC 32. Canadianfan posted: 07.26.2015 - 3:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Stupidly NBC is actually showing A recap highlight package of The 2013 Tour de France. Why I have no idea when you can be showing a live NASCAR race. 33. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 3:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The lady who did the anthem was amazing. Just sing it like it is, I like it. Not like some of those people who try to put their own little spin on it. 34. someone posted: 07.26.2015 - 3:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 33: agreed, smh at that stupid guitar solo, was the solo really necessary? 35. someone posted: 07.26.2015 - 3:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Lol oops, I read 33 wrong, I disagree... 36. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 3:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) They actually profiled Hornish on the grid over Hamlin. 37. Canadianfan posted: 07.26.2015 - 3:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think it might be sprinkling a little bit look like that on Tony's Roof cam 38. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 3:37 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Mears gets an onboard and Stewart is the in-race reporter! I'm liking this, its not the same Jimmie/Jeff/Junior/Danica/Kyle Busch nonstop like the other networks do. 39. dimkoss11 posted: 07.26.2015 - 3:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Any chance for rain? 40. TS1420 posted: 07.26.2015 - 3:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hopefully this is Smoke's day finally. Of course Discount Chad & the slow-as-**** former 4 crew will find a way to ruin it. 41. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 3:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'd like to see Tony win one more too, but lets face it, he used up all the talent he had left winning the 2011 championship. 42. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 3:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think his best chance to win another race is Watkins Glen, which is ironically the track where his season has pretty much ended the last two years. 43. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 3:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Timmy Hill is off the track. 44. TS1420 posted: 07.26.2015 - 3:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Looking like another strong race for the "Summer of Shrub". 45. We need more Onion posted: 07.26.2015 - 3:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Timmy Hill didn't take the green. 46. BluesTravelerFan posted: 07.26.2015 - 3:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I honestly like what I've seen so far pretty good. 47. 28DaveyAllison28 posted: 07.26.2015 - 3:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) NASCAR sucks!!!!!!! Why the hell put this race on a channel I don't even get with my direct TV package & wait til 3:30 to start is stupidest, most inconstence start time I have ever seen. Hope it pours the rain and teaches stupid NASCAR's Brain France a lesson to start races on time like the old days 48. racefangurl posted: 07.26.2015 - 3:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Go Joey! I know it's early, but I always cheer my favorites. 49. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 07.26.2015 - 3:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The top 5 are pretty much nose to tail. 50. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 3:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Edwards to the lead. Awfully quiet in the chat rooms lately I've been noticing. 51. TS1420 posted: 07.26.2015 - 3:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Holy crap look away for a minute and Edwards erases Giggles lead and takes the lead. 52. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 07.26.2015 - 3:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yea, JoLo had to let up and get Carl ahead to clean his grille. 53. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 3:56 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) 45- Timmy Hill and Jay Robinson are complete jokes. 54. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 3:58 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Landon Cassill is in the top 25 again outperforming his equipment. But that's none of my business. 55. racefangurl posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Fenway needs to be bought out by Yates. None of the Rouskateers are top-20. The team sucks eggs these days. They're running like Richard Petty's team and Front Row. Or is Front Row running like Roush because they have the same cars? 56. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Go Harvick! 57. BluesTravelerFan posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I have to say, I don't remember the leader lapping cars being this interesting looking... 58. joey2448 posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick is closing in on the leader Carl Edwards as they work their way through lapped traffic. Holy cow, Keselowski is up to 14th after starting 31st! And it's lap 25! 59. dennyfan11 posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:05 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Kyle Busch up to third. If he wins the championship, I'll scream. 60. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) He won't win the championship. Too inconsistent. 61. TS1420 posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:07 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) So far while I don't think this package will be the cure-all to NASCAR's woes at the big tracks (clean-air is still a damn nuisance) this has been the most interesting Indy race I've seen since 04/05. Last year Edwards would have a 4+ second lead and the only passing would be happening about 10th on back. 62. BluesTravelerFan posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @61 Ditto. It was fun seeing Carl wading through that lapped traffic earlier. 63. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Carl and Kyle are going to be way behind after pit stops. 64. racefangurl posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:09 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) If Landon's top 25 in junk, he'd probably be 15-20 spots higher with a good car. His ride makes him look so bad, compared to his abilities. Unless you know how terrible a car it is. 65. Brad2TheHorse posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Cowboy Hat got caught speeding. 66. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick in the lead. Called it. 67. racefangurl posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 29, in 2011, there was a rookie running 4th at a point well into in this race, until he had to pit for fuel with 7 laps to go. So, a rookie finishing in the top-20 wouldn't be out of the question. 68. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Seriously, where is everybody? There's usually a lot more people in the chat room. 69. Matt Fink posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:16 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Snooze fest watching the 4 lead this race. Hope Harvick cuts a tire or crashes. I'm pulling for Smoke today. 70. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @69- Why, you don't like winners? 71. Matt Fink posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Don't enjoy watching the 4 car lead every race. With all the new rules packages NASCAR is coming out with. Maybe there should be a package that creates equal chances of winning for more drivers. 20-25 drivers have a realistic shot at winning each race. NOT like a restrictor plate race though. 72. Smiff_2 posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Underwhelming. Pretty much what I expected, but still disappointing. 73. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) A caution for balloons? F***ing balloons!?! 74. dennyfan11 posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Caution for balloons landing on the track! 75. Matt Fink posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #73 LOL, they are not even close to the track, high up on the catchfence. 76. Smiff_2 posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) WOW. We have seen a new low. F***ing balloons, dude. Seriously? 77. Lucstar88 posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ballons.... really. I have never seen that cause a caution before. 78. racefangurl posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The best thing I can say about the Roush cars is they're ahead of Front Row and none are lower that 35th. The worst I can say is they're behind Casey Mears and Danica Patrick and outside the top-20. 79. TS1420 posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Are they being serious? Caution for baloons? WTF! Was Danica about a lap down? 80. luigistarted06 posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:23 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Nascar is officially a joke 81. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 71- so basically you don't like him because he's the best and beats your driver. Hoping for someone to crash is a BIT much, don't you think? 82. Lucstar88 posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Was Danica about a lap down?" Nope, Cassill i think is LD 83. We need more Onion posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Balloons... Is NASCAR playing Tower Defense now? 84. BMan0213 posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:26 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "29, in 2011, there was a rookie running 4th at a point well into in this race, until he had to pit for fuel with 7 laps to go. So, a rookie finishing in the top-20 wouldn't be out of the question." .............. It wasn't like Bayne was running there because he was running good. He was there because he tried to stretch his fuel. A simple look at the loop data from that race would show you his average running spot was 28th. His driver ratting from that race was also 47.6, so don't come on here and act like he ran in the top 5 that whole race because he didn't... 85. Matt Fink posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #81 You're right, he can blow a engine instead :), I just want to watch a great race. 86. Racing Outcast1985 posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:29 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) Let me give you 3 words that caused the decline and fall of the NASCAR empire Mismanagement Incompetence Arrogance 87. TS1420 posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I forgot Jr was having wheel issues so this was probably the Nationwide Caution Period. 88. Matt Fink posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:29 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) #86, Brian France 89. The Long Shot posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) NASCAR was just testing out their new caution mechanism. Screw flags and lights: BALLOONS! 90. Mamorese posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:30 pm Rate this comment: (1) (2) NASCAR is the worst sport in america 91. numbah10hatah posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Go Gordon! 92. dennyfan11 posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Clint Bowyer spins, collecting Jeff Gordon! 93. TS1420 posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The Gordon vs Bowyer Show! 94. BluesTravelerFan posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Clint strikes again... 95. numbah10hatah posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I just jinxed Gordon. :( 96. We need more Onion posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) lel Bowyer and Gordon find eachother again. Jeffy gets the worse of it. 97. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bowyer spins and Gordon gets tagged from the back. 98. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bowyer doing what he does best... spinning out and screwing Gordon in the process. 99. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:34 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) The Hack spun on his own. What a shock. 100. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) My bad, Gordon spun trying to avoid clobbering Spinny. 101. Lucstar88 posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That's more aero than talent. Also Kahne almost pinched Danica in the wall and just was all over the place, and gordon spun off his left rear. 102. MAR posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Who is Jeff Kyle? 103. Anonymous posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:35 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) >sneak 104. TS1420 posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Clint Boywer is The Joker to Gordon's Boy Wonder. 105. Canadianfan posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The American snipers brother 106. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 102- I was wondering about that too and I've narrowed it down to too options. Either Jeff Kyle is related to Chris Kyle or NASCAR named the race after Gordon and Busch. 107. BMan0213 posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Bowyer doing what he does best... spinning out and screwing Gordon in the process." One of the replays shows Jeff was already sideways before he got to Clint. He probably would have at least spun even if Clint wasn't wrecking in front of him. 108. joey2448 posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Of course Jeff Gordon wrecks! It's his final season, his final race at Indianapolis, he will crash! The racing gods have it in for him! He's not allowed to have a storybook ending! Ughhhhh, I feel so sick for the 24 team. 109. TS1420 posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) NBC/SN, King of the Awkward Under Caution Segments. 110. numbah10hatah posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:38 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Well, screw this race. 111. JRacingFast posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:39 pm Rate this comment: (8) (0) It's pretty sad that a caution for a balloon ruined Gordons day 112. dennyfan11 posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Joey Logano leads the field down to the green. 113. luigistarted06 posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @111 exactly what I was thinking. That's just it shameful 114. TS1420 posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yay Nap-Time in 2nd... 115. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Phat Tony looking FAST today! 116. MAR posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @106 i thought it was a tribute to Jeff and a tribute To Kyle lol. 117. numbah10hatah posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Timmy Hill is back on track. 118. Matt Fink posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) For a sec it looked like Logano was going to slam Gordon 119. Driver X posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) We had a caution. For balloons?? I...can't.....I can't even wrap my head around this. WHAT POSSIBLE THREAT DO BALLOONS POSE TO RACECARS? When does the rain come? 120. luigistarted06 posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I hate to say it but Gordon shouldn't be out there. Sometimes he's going to run him over 121. racefangurl posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 84, I know he didn't start that high, but since I was unable to watch the race on TV because I don't get that channel and didn't look up how he ran, I didn't know the whole story. That comment was simply me pointing out the reason I believe it's not impossible for a rookie to get up there at this track. And I wasn't implying he ran that high all race. I said it was well into this race before he got that high up or at least meant that. 122. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin, Kenseth, and Dos Jotas pitting under green; probably running a road-course strategy. 123. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Interesting strategy for Matt Kinzis. 124. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Timmy Hill just started the race. WHY is he in the 98 car instead of Sorenson again? 125. luigistarted06 posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Someone's going to run him over* 126. Sean posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:45 pm Rate this comment: (6) (0) This should prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that NASCAR's interest is bunching the field up, NOT benefiting certain drivers. If they were intending to benefit certain drivers (like Gordon, who probably would have been their choice for this race), it wouldn't have happened. They want cautions to show in highlight reels... And again, this also wouldn't have happened if they hadn't gone to shootout-style restarts, which I still hate. Not a Gordon fan, but he did get jobbed. 127. Matt Fink posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:47 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) NASCAR LOVES to bunch up the field. Debris cautions every race since the 2009 restart change. That's when the debris cautions became more common. 128. Sean posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Nah, the debris cautions really took off some time before the double-file restarts. I'd say it was around 2005... 129. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Everyone trying out the road course strategy and puts Harvick and Stewart 1-2 with Sophomore Slumpy in 3rd. 130. Racing Outcast1985 posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:49 pm Rate this comment: (2) (3) Bold prediction NASCAR will be headed to the Junkyard by 2025 131. Nathan8848 posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I've been watching this race since the caution before Gordon. Why does it seem that there have been so many commercials. 132. TS1420 posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:51 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Interesting mix of strategies going on. Of course a bug will fly over the track and NASCAR will throw a caution and reset the status quo. 133. Racing Outcast1985 posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) During its first run at Televising NASCAR NBC was known to many fans as Nothing But Commercials 134. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Hey NBC, stop showing us the drivers fastest lap, show us intervals please. 135. BMan0213 posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:54 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "84, I know he didn't start that high, but since I was unable to watch the race on TV because I don't get that channel and didn't look up how he ran, I didn't know the whole story. That comment was simply me pointing out the reason I believe it's not impossible for a rookie to get up there at this track. And I wasn't implying he ran that high all race. I said it was well into this race before he got that high up or at least meant that." That's not the point. He ran like crap all day and still finished 30. Go back and read what you said before. When you say "he was running 4th until he had to pit" and that's all the info you say, it makes it sound like he was running good the whole race which he wasn't. Anyways going off what you clearly meant, anyone can can get a good finish do to fuel mileage. If Trevor were to have finish in the top 5 that race it would still be far less impressive than if Chase were to run in the top 20 throughout the day today. 136. Matt Fink posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Mix of strategies so NBC can brag upon people like Chase Elliott who went from 25th to 9th due to strategy. 137. luigistarted06 posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:54 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Cassill running in the top 15! 138. We need more Onion posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:55 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) People calling out Cope yesterday, I guess you had no problem with Gordon doing the same? 139. Sean posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:55 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Note to Jeff Burton: Tony Stewart has NOT won in everything he's done. Winless in sports cars, and considering Casey Mears, Kyle Larson, Jamie McMurray, and Mark Dismore among others now have overall 24 Hours of Daytona wins, that says a lot. Not to mention the IRL had a shallow talent pool. His career outside Cup is so overrated. 140. Nathan8848 posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:55 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) lols 136- "Mix of strategies so NBC can brag upon people like Chase Elliott who went from 25th to 9th due to strategy." 137- "Cassill running in the top 15!" 141. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @138- I guess you didn't read comment 120, which I happen to agree with. 142. Racing Outcast1985 posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hey Sean have you ever stopped to think that the broadcasters really don't care about getting their facts straight or anything about this race in general 143. We need more Onion posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Winless in sports cars, and considering Casey Mears, Kyle Larson, Jamie McMurray, and Mark Dismore among others now have overall 24 Hours of Daytona wins, that says a lot. Not to mention the IRL had a shallow talent pool. His career outside Cup is so overrated. " In THE best car for Larson, Mears and McMurray it isn't really hard. If they won now, that would be something. And I'm pretty sure that Mark Dismore also did it in an unbeatable car, the AAR-Toyota GTP. 144. BMan0213 posted: 07.26.2015 - 4:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "People calling out Cope yesterday, I guess you had no problem with Gordon doing the same?" NO becasue this is Jeff's last race it Indy and he's an amazing driver and Cope is garbage.... and yes that's sarcasms for anyone who could't tell, but in all reality people probably had problem with Cope yesterday day because it happened so late in the race. 145. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I wonder if we'll be seeing one of those "Kyle Busch cautions" anytime soon? 146. Lucstar88 posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @145 If there's more balloons, likely. 147. Nathan8848 posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 7 Blowing up again. 148. We need more Onion posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "@138- I guess you didn't read comment 120, which I happen to agree with. " Should I just read your mind and come to the conclusion that you agree with it? It was not aimed at Luigi, as he was not bashing Cope yesterday. 149. Sean posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "In THE best car for Larson, Mears and McMurray it isn't really hard. If they won now, that would be something." True, but Stewart had the best cars in sports cars, IndyCars, and stock cars as well and yet has NO Daytona 500 wins, NO Indy 500 wins, and NO 24 Hours of Daytona wins. My point stands. He is not at all clutch when it comes to winning marquee races, only championships. Yet I hear people talking about how Stewart can handle the pressure while for instance Montoya can't, even though Montoya usually *does* win the marquee races he enters... When I hear NASCAR fans talk about Montoya sucking... Stewart was *only* better than Montoya at stock cars, and okay, probably sprint cars... 150. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I wonder if we'll be seeing one of those "Kyle Busch cautions" anytime soon? We've reached halfway. Expect anything now. 151. dennyfan11 posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Man! What a crazy top 10! Tony Stewart in 2nd, Danica Patrick in 5th, Aric Almirola in 7th, and Ricky Stenhouse Jr in 8th! 152. We need more Onion posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm not arguing with the point of Tony's non-stock car/non-sprint car career, just that it means NOTHING that some of his contemporaries won in a Ganassi car and Dismore won in an AAR one. 153. Matt Fink posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Regarding to my post #136, Jeff Burton just did it with Danica 154. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:05 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Holy crap. I just realized Sparkle Pony is fifth. 155. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Danica Patrick in 5th Ricky Stenhouse Jr in 8th! It's startling how often those two are next to each other; whether it be sparingly in the top 10 or in the back half of the field. I think they even DNF together. 156. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think Edwards will cycle back to the lead. 157. Sean posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I'm not arguing with the point of Tony's non-stock car/non-sprint car career, just that it means NOTHING that some of his contemporaries won in a Ganassi car and Dismore won in an AAR one." Okay, I agree with that. It's not like any of them were the team leaders...although strangely Larson was 2nd to Dixon in speed in Prototype this year and faster than Kanaan...after that performance, I thought he might actually do something this year...but I was right the first time about Larson receiving too much hype too fast. 158. Anonymous posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Patrick's on the same strategy as Harvick and Stewart. 159. We need more Onion posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Whatever their strategy is, Danica IS running pretty well and has been ever since the start. 160. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Whats Edwards pitting for? I thought he pitted when Busch, Kenseth, Hamlin, Johnson, etc. pitted. 161. TS1420 posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) JGR still setting the best times on pit-road. 162. We need more Onion posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That NOS paint scheme Ricky is running brings back BAD memories from the Nationwide Series. 163. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well considering she ran IndyCar for 7 years, this should be one of her better tracks. 164. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:13 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Well there's your Kyle Busch caution! 165. Nathan8848 posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:13 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Are you F*** serious!!?? Another Busch caution. 166. BMan0213 posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:13 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) "Yet I hear people talking about how Stewart can handle the pressure while for instance Montoya can't, even though Montoya usually *does* win the marquee races he enters..." 2011 Chase. You can't say Tony can't handle the pressure after that run especially what he did at Homestead. The dude had to go to the back of the pack like three times that race and still found a way to win. As for the spots car stuff you said about before he was like 20 minutes away from winning at Daytona and they had a parts failure If he had a car the quality of a Ganassi car him (and Dale Jr. of all people) would have 24 Hour of Dayton win. 167. Matt Fink posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Did they say what the caution was for? 168. TS1420 posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:14 pm Rate this comment: (1) (2) Actually this was the Nap-Time caution. 169. ORIGINAL suomynonA posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) This weekly Kyle Busch benefit caution is really starting to make NASCAR unwatchable. 170. Smiff_2 posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:14 pm Rate this comment: (2) (2) Jimmie Johnson charity caution. Yay. 171. Lucstar88 posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Debris near the wall, piece of metal I'm hearing. 172. JRacingFast posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:14 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) .....BULLSHIT CAUTIONS BREED BULLSHIT CUATIONS! 173. Sean posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:15 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Howard-Boss was just as strong as Ganassi in its day, just not quite as reliable. Kyle Busch caution? He got screwed by this caution, and he probably was going to win the race last week with no caution. Come on now. Call them all cautions to bunch up the field, which they are. 174. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:15 pm Rate this comment: (3) (2) Since Rick & Co. haven't mentioned what the caution is for yet, let's make our own assumptions. I'm gonna guess smoke from candles on a birthday cake in the infield. 175. Matt Fink posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #168, I figured that was why 176. We need more Onion posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:15 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Debris near the wall, piece of metal I'm hearing." Near the Berlin Wall, I guess. 177. Matt Fink posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) LOL 178. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) BOLD PREDICTION: Tony Stewart wins 179. Sean posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm not saying Stewart can't handle the pressure of championship battles. It's more about the double standard certain NASCAR fans have causing them to overrate drivers from a sprint background because of Gordon/Stewart's success and critique foreign formula drivers (i.e. anybody who says that Larson has improved on Montoya when he's running exactly the same for the most part, and contending for wins less...) 180. Anonymous posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #48 gets the lucky dog. 181. We need more Onion posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:17 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Kyle Busch caution? He got screwed by this caution, and he probably was going to win the race last week with no caution. Come on now. Call them all cautions to bunch up the field, which they are. " Actually, that IS a Kyle Busch caution then. He is the one who calls them Kyle Busch cautions and thinks that they are there to make others catch up to him, which they can't 'cause he thinks he is some sort of a god... 182. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Junior loses four spots on pit road. Seriously, he needs a better pit crew. 183. Nathan8848 posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Debris or a piece of plastic. 184. Matt Fink posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) NBC, Never Broadcasting race Coverage 185. Canadianfan posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Look like a piece of metal Chase had to avoid it 186. Nathan8848 posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That M&M's commercial fits perfectly with NASCAR. 187. TS1420 posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:23 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) And NBC/SN technically misses the restart... 188. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Here comes Brad? There goes Brad. 189. luigistarted06 posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:24 pm Rate this comment: (3) (2) Jimmie should not be in 6th. He was literally a lap down when that caution came out 190. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) "Welcome back to NASCAR on NBC, we'll be right back after a break." 191. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Nothing But Commercials 192. Anonymous posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Jimmie got the lucky dog and lots of cars pitted in front of him under the caution. Remember, he got his stop in just before the yellow came out. 193. We need more Onion posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:27 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) "Remember, he got his stop in just before the yellow came out. " WHAT A COINCIDENCE!!! 194. Anonymous posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:27 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I'm old enough to remember when everyone on here was overly optimistic about NBC's coverage of NASCAR. It's only taken a few weeks, but it seems a lot of you have already turned against them. I can't help, but laugh. 195. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:28 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) Gordon could be in danger of finishing last. 196. luigistarted06 posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:29 pm Rate this comment: (1) (2) Even if that is true the lucky dog car is required to start at the end of the pack 197. We need more Onion posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I'm old enough to remember when everyone on here was overly optimistic about NBC's coverage of NASCAR. It's only taken a few weeks, but it seems a lot of you have already turned against them. I can't help, but laugh. " It's totally all right. People are bitching about too many commercials in THE (second) most valuable race of the schedule... 198. MAR posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:30 pm Rate this comment: (2) (2) Nascar needs to create a salary cap that limits the top teams on how much sponsor dollars one team can attract so it could help the overall competition from first to 43 in the cup grid the gap is big from the front of the field to the back. Some guys show up weekly to run 30th at best on speedways. 199. Smiff_2 posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:30 pm Rate this comment: (1) (2) See, *I* thought the Lucky Dog recipient had to start at the tail end of the lead lap cars, regardless of whether anybody pits under the caution. 200. Christian posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:31 pm Rate this comment: (2) (2) @198 The Xfinity Series would benefit more from that salary cap then the Cup Series at the moment. 201. BMan0213 posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I'm not saying Stewart can't handle the pressure of championship battles. It's more about the double standard certain NASCAR fans have causing them to overrate drivers from a sprint background because of Gordon/Stewart's success and critique foreign formula drivers (i.e. anybody who says that Larson has improved on Montoya when he's running exactly the same for the most part, and contending for wins less...)" I can see why people would think that about Larson he had a really goos year last year. He would have been in the top 10 in points if there was no chase. Thats pretty damn good for a rookie. As for the overrating part I think that's just how fans are. They're gonna defend people like Tony while they disrespect "outsiders" like Juan. I bet if for what ever reason Tony went to F1 and somehow won like 20 races and 2 championships there would still be people over there who thought Juan was better. That's just how some people are. 202. Nathan8848 posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Spin by Almirola. 203. dennyfan11 posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Aric Almirola spins. 204. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:32 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Bacon Boy goes around. 205. RaceFanX posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Aric Almirola wrecks, he was running 17th on the lead lap when it happened. 206. Matt Fink posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hoping for a good finish 207. Anonymous posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Anyone want some pie? 208. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) The 43 went a little overboard on the stickers in the driver compartment. 209. We need more Onion posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Almirola wrecking is a huge blow to his hopeful chase spot. Let's say one more driver behind 16th (if somebody, then Allmendinger in the Glen) wins a race and Kylie gets in the top 30, then he has to overcome a 40+ points gap to 2 of the Menard-Newman-Kahne trio... That's gonna' be hard. He has one of these to beat even if there is no new winner/Kylie gets beaten by Gilliland/Whitt. 210. Racing Outcast1985 posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) At post 207: No not really 211. ORIGINAL suomynonA posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Johnson DID NOT get the Lucky Dog last caution, he crossed the line before the leaders... seriously, cut the conspiracy crap. 212. Anonymous posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:37 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) The new aero packages have seemed to hurt the 88 team more than any other. 213. Nathan8848 posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:37 pm Rate this comment: (7) (0) Windows 10 is sponsoring the Pocono race next week. I expect a lot of crashes. 214. Anonymous posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:38 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) "Johnson DID NOT get the Lucky Dog last caution, he crossed the line before the leaders... seriously, cut the conspiracy crap." The TV broadcast literally said, "The 48 got the lucky dog." 215. Anonymous posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 211 - Why wasn't he restarting 1st then? 216. MAR posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @200 the salary cap would benefit all 3 series its makes no sense that 4-6 major companies feed into one top team the salary cap would spread the wealth in the back of thr cup garage help expand and improve teams in the Xfinity series and make the truck series useful again with quality teams and o yea it would eliminate half the ride buying jokers. 217. TS1420 posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Lesser Chad seems to think pitting everytime, all the time is the best strategy. Could work out but I doubt it. 218. ORIGINAL suomynonA posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "The TV broadcast literally said, "The 48 got the lucky dog."" This is NBC we're talking about here. From Bob Pockrass' Twitter: "Johnson beat the leader to start/finish after the caution came out as they were pitting ... Truex did not. #nascar" 219. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) How did everyone from Kahne/Stewart on back not crash there? 220. Anonymous posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Oh, last year some commenter said something about Kyle Larson and pie. 221. TS1420 posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Discount Chad needs to be left at the track... 222. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @212- I wouldn't say that yet, he had brake problems at KY and today he's running around where I would expect between 10th-15th (he's never been very good at Indy). I think its hurt Johnson actually, he hasn't been very fast at all lately. 223. BMan0213 posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:43 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) "Nascar needs to create a salary cap that limits the top teams on how much sponsor dollars one team can attract so it could help the overall competition from first to 43 in the cup grid the gap is big from the front of the field to the back. Some guys show up weekly to run 30th at best on speedways." Yeah no offence that's a terrible idea. If a sponsor couldn't sponsor a big team because they're at the cap they would't go sponsor a little team they would probably just not be in the sport. Also the cap could just flat out run the small teams out of business. Most salary caps in sports have a cap floor. Who's to say those small might not have the money to reach that. I feel having a cap very well could kill off the small teams like Front Row Motorsports. It sounds like a good idea but it could very well do more harm than good. 224. racefangurl posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (7) Woof Woof! The Roush cars are dogs, to be behind Chase Elliott because he's a rookie. 225. Nathan8848 posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Brian Scott goes boom. No caution. 226. Nathan8848 posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I guess it was a caution. 227. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Caution now, another slight knock to the wall on his way back to pit road. 228. TrollPatrol posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:49 pm Rate this comment: (1) (5) The thumbs down troll seems to be at work. There's a post with 3 thumbs down in less than 3 minutes. 229. We need more Onion posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) It is downvoted, because it is nonsense? There is someone (or 2 people) downvoting anti-JJ comments, but no bots atm. 230. MAR posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (4) Ok if the salary cap is a bad idea lets just keep watching the super teams out spend the little guys you see how exciting that's been. 231. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Brian Scott in the wall. Haters in 3...2...1... 232. ORIGINAL suomynonA posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Given the content of the post, you're lucky it only got 3. 233. Anonymous posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Caution actually is out. 234. We need more Onion posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm just happy that it became harder for Kennedy to keep the car in the top 36. 235. Matt Fink posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I like what I'm seeing with the different strategies considering the race is almost over, someone different could have a good shot now. 236. racefangurl posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (3) Can a non-Chevy win this one? It's had Ford and Toyota leaders? 237. racefangurl posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) leaders. 238. We need more Onion posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:54 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) "Ok if the salary cap is a bad idea lets just keep watching the super teams out spend the little guys you see how exciting that's been. " Wow... People told you respectfully why it is a bad idea and this is the response... Salary caps in a non-franchise system are quite bad for the whole organization AND eradicates those who had little to start with. 239. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:55 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) Meanwhile Tony Stewart has fallen back to his normal 20th place running position. Scratch my "bold prediciton" about him winning. 240. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Go Harvick 241. BMan0213 posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:55 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) hmmmmmm this looks like 2011. Paul Menard anyone :D 242. ORIGINAL suomynonA posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:56 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Meanwhile Tony Stewart has fallen back to his normal 20th place running position. Scratch my "bold prediciton" about him winning." A 20th would even raise his average finish a bit. 243. Driver X posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Are we gonna have a fuel mileage run to the end, or is there gonna be rain before the race ends? 244. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Stewart couldn't decide who to block and ended up blocking no one, losing about 6 spots on the backstretch. 245. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And ujst as I say that Stewart stays out and he's third now. 246. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:58 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) And now he loses ten spots on the restart. 247. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:58 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) Wrecky Smashouse in the wall. 248. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 07.26.2015 - 5:59 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) If Stenhouse had let out balloons, the caution would've flown. 249. luigistarted06 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) You know, David Ragan may have a winning strategy if things work out just right 250. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gordon is last. Wow. Wouldn't it just be ironic if Gordon won his first Brickyard 400 and then finishes last in his last Brickyard 400? 251. WhatNext posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:01 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Wow, Junior's gone from 2004 mode to 2009 mode with the new aero package. Pure trash. 252. joey2448 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 2011 Brickyard 400, anyone? That's what this reminds me of. 253. We need more Onion posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:01 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) Hehe, imagine the outrage if somehow Ragan won this and a bit down the road eliminated Gordon from the playoffs. I'd be enjoying it a lot. 254. TS1420 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bold prediction: Harvick drafts Smoke all the way to the checkers. 255. BMan0213 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:02 pm Rate this comment: (2) (3) I wish NASCAR would figure out we like races like this. Fuel mileage can keep you on the edge of your seats till the very end. 256. luigistarted06 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bowman will probably end up last 257. jabber1990 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:03 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) i'd rather see a spending Cap in the Xfinity Series, there are too many extremes, you have teams with unlimited money (JGR, Penske, RCR) teams with a lot of money (JRM) teams who don't have a lot of money (most everyone else) and teams who don't "have 2 nickels to rub together" (the rest) as for in the Cup Series, i'm against it, its part of professional sports, and i'm avoiding a political analogy here 258. BMan0213 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:05 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Wow, Junior's gone from 2004 mode to 2009 mode with the new aero package. Pure trash." Yeah he's been nowhere near 2009 mode today lol. Besides Indy has never been one of his best tracks. He could very well just be having an off day. As Aaron Rodgers once said R-E-L-A-X :) 259. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:06 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) 251, really??? Do you remember how bad Jr was in 2009? He could hardly run in the top 25. This is the second race with the new aero package, and you can't judge anything by the first one since he had brake problems. Indy has never been one of his better tracks. And even so, 18th would be a great run for him in 2009. This is hardly "2009 mode" for him. 260. jabber1990 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:06 pm Rate this comment: (1) (2) another reason i'm against spending caps in the Cup series is because its the "top" series, if you have it why not spend it? spending caps are punishing the rich for being rich, 261. racefangurl posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (3) I wish I could go back about 1 year and slap Past Me across the face. Duh to the me then. 262. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gordon is back on track and ahead of Bowman. 263. Nathan8848 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well, there goes that. 264. luigistarted06 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Noooooo 265. Lucstar88 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bayne's tire has caused the debris. No more fuel milage 266. BMan0213 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:11 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Well at least it's a legit yellow.... 267. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Caution for chunks of tire on the backstretch, likely from Bayne. 268. Matt Fink posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (3) Seriously, that caution was pointless. Fan caution I guess 269. TS1420 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Caution. Strategy either over or just getting started. 270. Matt Fink posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Seriously, that caution was pointless. Fan caution I guess 271. Lucstar88 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wait? Was there payback? Almirola was pissed at Bayne. 272. Lucstar88 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:12 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) WHAT WAS THAT LOL 273. Nathan8848 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Weekly Roush caution. 274. ORIGINAL suomynonA posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:13 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) That was the only way Bayne was going to have any impact on the 2015 Brickyard 400. 275. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Caution for legit debris. 276. MAR posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (4) @260 is it ok for the Hendrick's, JRG, Penske and Stewart hass to keep spending unlimited money and continue to beat the hell out of the Circle sports, Harry Scott motorsports, and the BK racings. Why not cap out how much the big boys spend to allow the little guys to attract more funds? Hell even RFR and RPM are struggling with funds. 277. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I guess Tony might have a chance. 278. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Aaaaand its gone. 279. TS1420 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Of course Tony called back on pit-road for like the 80th time in 40 laps. 280. racefangurl posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) The fans wanted a caution, so they found some chunks of cut tire and used that as an excuse? That's the only way this would be a "fan caution." Maybe they thought the fans wouldn't like a fuel mileage race. 281. BMan0213 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:16 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) "@260 is it ok for the Hendrick's, JRG, Penske and Stewart hass to keep spending unlimited money and continue to beat the hell out of the Circle sports, Harry Scott motorsports, and the BK racings. Why not cap out how much the big boys spend to allow the little guys to attract more funds? Hell even RFR and RPM are struggling with funds." Then you're making it unfair for the big teams. Just because it might help the small team's doesn't make it right. 282. joey2448 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:17 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) That was strange between the 43 and 6... 283. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yes we have Burton. Talladega 2010. You were in that race. Is your Alzheimers acting up? 284. Matt Fink posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) I think it was for setting up a double file late race restart 285. We need more Onion posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:18 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) "Why not cap out how much the big boys spend to allow the little guys to attract more funds? Hell even RFR and RPM are struggling with funds. " Exactly how will small teams attract more funds, if the top teams have less? The top teams will have a little setback, because their funding will be limited, but it was already said that if a company can't sponsor let's say the #19 or the #5, they won't go and sponsor the #35 instead. They won't sponsor anyone. Maybe they would look at an IndyCar team instead... Wait. NASCAR shooting itself in the leg would be good for IndyCar... YEAH! I'm with salary caps now. 286. Lucstar88 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bayne and Almirola are really pissed after each other on the radio. "It's bull crap! He tried killing me in both corners and now he wants to lock up the brakes when I'm coming up on caution!' Bayne yelled. Bayne also said "He's going to get it. He tried killing me on the back straightaway." "That little boy better be ready. He's going to get his ass whooped today," Almirola says of Bayne 287. Lucstar88 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I do not want you retailiating on the race track at speed and you end up being the guy who hurts him," Bayne is told. "Did you ever figure out what the deal is with the 43, why he tried to kill me?" Bayne says. Crew chief seems nonplussed. 288. BMan0213 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:20 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) Gotta laugh at Kyle's crew chief in that interview. Points mean everything to you right now. I'm gonna laugh if Kyle either wrecks or runs out of gas here because he's pushing the car and ends up missing the top 30 because of it. 289. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Exactly how will small teams attract more funds, if the top teams have less? The top teams will have a little setback, because their funding will be limited, but it was already said that if a company can't sponsor let's say the #19 or the #5, they won't go and sponsor the #35 instead. They won't sponsor anyone." Or they'll do what UPS did and for probably the same price or even more, they'll get themselves a teeny little decal on an F1 car. 290. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Edwards and Logano lean on each other in turn 1 and Edwards is falling way back. 291. Nathan8848 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That may be the race. I think Harvick has this. 292. MAR posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:22 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) I got my money on the Bayne in the Almirola fight 293. ORIGINAL suomynonA posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:22 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) "Gotta laugh at Kyle's crew chief in that interview. Points mean everything to you right now. I'm gonna laugh if Kyle either wrecks or runs out of gas here because he's pushing the car and ends up missing the top 30 because of it." Brian France wouldn't know what to do with himself if Kylie missed the top 30. 294. Nathan8848 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) What a terrible race so far for him. He has been stuck in the 20th spot all race. Lucky he didn't get too much damage. 295. TS1420 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (3) Wow. Every restart has had somebody in the top 5 lose a bunch of spots. Jr taken out by his teammate! 296. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick with a great jump, its his race to lose now. 297. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Damn, Jr almost had it saved. 298. Lucstar88 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:24 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Junior is around. Checked up to miss Jimmie, and got turned. That's a racing deal. 299. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This caution got everyone good on gas for lap 160. 300. BMan0213 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm surprised Dale didn't destroy his splitter there. That could have been way worse. 301. WhatNext posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (5) Like I said...2009 all over again for those guys. 302. We need more Onion posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) "Jr taken out by his teammate! " Not like Kandy did anything wrong here. For once. 303. Nathan8848 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:26 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) World 600!! It lives. 304. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Bold prediction: Cryle does something stupid on the next restart that results in either getting himself wrecked or losing ten spots. 305. racefangurl posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) 261 was a reference to the, in Hinch's words "arrogant, passionately hateful dickbag" I was, in regard to Chase. Pie Girl, as I call that version of me was a dumb girl. Everyone that put Pie Girl down/disagreed with and/or downvoted that version of me was right. Anyone that can crack the top-20 and stay there in their first Brickyard 400 must be that good. 306. luigistarted06 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Let's hope the rain continues to hold off 307. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It'll be just like last week, starts raining in post race interviews. And Stewart pits again. ??? 308. TS1420 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:29 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Discount Chad trying to set the record for most time on pit-road or something... 309. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Doesn't Mobil 1 sponsor the pit crew of the race award? 310. Nathan8848 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Come on Truex! 311. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) How about Truex up in the top five all of a sudden! 312. luigistarted06 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Busch has this unless there's a caution 313. BMan0213 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Idk if Kevin can get back by him. Only negative about Kyle being out front is that he's burning more fuel now, but with all the yellows i think hes ok. 314. Lucstar88 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Looks like Kyle might have this :/ Caution. 315. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) WTF was Harvick thinking on that restart? 316. luigistarted06 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And sure enough there's a caution 317. MAR posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Cmon Busch 318. Nathan8848 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wow. Another debris caution. The surprising thing is that all of them have actually had something. 319. TS1420 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:35 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Yay another oppertunity for Discount Chad to pit the 14! 320. BMan0213 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "WTF was Harvick thinking on that restart?" Yeah that wasn't Harvick's fault. Truex got a bad start. Kevin had no help there. 321. typo posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:37 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Don't want to be that guy, but I hope Cryle take him and Harvick out on the restart and have Logano Win. But I think its safe to say Kyle has this one. 322. racefangurl posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:37 pm Rate this comment: (1) (2) T-Bayne never seemed like the type to say things like "bull crap" He must have been really mad. 323. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick needs to get a much better restart here. 324. joey2448 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:38 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) God dangit, I KNEW that was gonna happen. Logano and Kyle Busch on the inside of that restart, I knew they would push past Harvick on the restart! 325. WhatNext posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Busch wins a minimum of 9 races this season. Bank it. 326. OldSchoolNascarDude1 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) According to Twitter, Denny's crew instructed him to not help Kevin. 327. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wow, 4 races and that light on the back of the pace car hasn't combusted yet. 328. dennyfan11 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Final 2 laps! Trevor Bayne wrecks! GWC! 329. TS1420 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Good god! 330. Nathan8848 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:40 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Wow, go away Bayne and Roush. 331. Lucstar88 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Did the 43 just dump him again...... 332. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Betcha the 43 did that. 333. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:40 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) And all of a sudden, all three of Cryle's "fans" have joined the chat. 334. Aaron posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:40 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Haha, "Discount Chad." I like that. 335. racefangurl posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Looks like a Kyle Busch day at Indy. 336. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:41 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) 43 is innocent. 337. Lucstar88 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That was BIFFLE OMG 338. MAR posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) I think Kyle will pull a Lebron James when he gets in the chase disappear slowly as a fan im hoping they save something for the chase. 339. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think Cassill might've been involved too. 340. TS1420 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:43 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Giggles will probably win this. 341. racefangurl posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Or maybe not, with that wreck. I don't get NBCS, so was Almirola anything to do with the wreck? 342. typo posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:43 pm Rate this comment: (1) (3) Yes! Logano next to Busch! Hoping Cryle Chocks on restart which allows Logano to breeze by. IMO Logano is overdue for a win. 343. Lucstar88 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Either that or the 95? 344. BMan0213 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "That was BIFFLE OMG" You know Roush. He'd probably want his cars to wreck to prevent as he puts it "The Darkside" Toyota's win lol. 345. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Here's hoping Truex goes three wide on the restart and wins. 346. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Either Truex wins or we go into three GWCs and Cryle runs out of gas. 347. Lucstar88 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Never mind that was Gordon!!! 348. Nathan8848 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Larson in 5th! LarSON! 349. Lucstar88 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm not sure anymore lol. G-W-C coming! 350. dennyfan11 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Final 2 laps! 351. TS1420 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Com'on Kyle! 352. dennyfan11 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) White flag! Exciting battle! 353. Lucstar88 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This race sucked to be honest. Kyle wins again. 354. Nathan8848 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) What a summer for Busch. 355. TS1420 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) KYLE! Summer of Schub continues! 356. dennyfan11 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (3) Thank you for making NASCAR boring, Cryle Busch. 357. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:49 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Jeez, Kyle might be in 20th in points by Richmond. 358. MarkMartinFan posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (3) This was easily the best race at Indy in recent history. 359. ORIGINAL suomynonA posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) *yawn* 360. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:51 pm Rate this comment: (1) (5) F*ck this. I'm out. Screw Cryle. Screw Joey. Screw Hamlin. Screw NASCAR. Rant over. 361. Lucstar88 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:51 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "This was easily the best race at Indy in recent history." No it wasn't... This package is bad, hardly anyone could pass, you try to and you can't because you lose all momentum. :/. Not bad, but wasn't good. 362. Christian posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:51 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Thank you NASCAR, for handing a guy wins because he hurt himself for a meaningless race and had to sit out 1/3 the season. 363. typo posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:51 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) UGH WHY 364. racefangurl posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:52 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Can someone besides Kyle B win next week? 365. MAR posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) The greatest driver of our generation wins again and finally its a big race his run is the best i seen since Gordon in 98 366. The Long Shot posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ^Do you mind? 367. MarkMartinFan posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) "No it wasn't... This package is bad, hardly anyone could pass, you try to and you can't because you lose all momentum. :/. Not bad, but wasn't good." There was way more passing than the last couple years. 368. Lucstar88 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:54 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) If only they had their HP back. These cars are just Xfinity cars. That's it. This season has been the worse in recent memory. IF Kyle gets the title good for him! Missing 11 races... That's just some pure BS 369. ORIGINAL suomynonA posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:54 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "The greatest driver of our generation wins again and finally its a big race his run is the best i seen since Gordon in 98" You should go into comedy. 370. Lucstar88 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "There was way more passing than the last couple years." No there wasn't? You couldn't pass the leader, and the only way you could is by pit strategy. 371. typo posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Mr. Lucky wins again. Kyle tainted this race weekend. I�??ve never liked Indy for NASCAR. I think once NASCAR saw the Attendance from the 94' race they figured they should ditch short tracks and get bigger tracks like California, Chigoland, Texas, Las Vegas, and Kansas for higher attendance. So how could this race weekend get any worse? Kyle sweeps at it. 372. Nathan8848 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) "IF Kyle gets the title good for him! Missing 11 races... That's just some pure BS" The guy has 4 f**king wins. Why is it BS? Because the competitors couldn't take advantage of it? That's their fault. 373. MarkMartinFan posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:57 pm Rate this comment: (6) (6) I'm sorry that you obviously didn't watch the whole field. There was passing. Can you people stop bitching about something every single week? Seriously. If you think you know what the hell to do to make the racing better, start your own racing association. Otherwise, shut your traps. You think the race sucks because Kyle Busch won. Not because the racing wasn't good. 374. BMan0213 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:57 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Sigh.... Kyle's crazy run is gonna be what makes me loose all credibility when it comes to the Championship. NASCAR will soon be like golf. What I mean by that is, if you asked a golfer if they would rather win The Masters or the FedEx cup (The PGA's season championship) everyone will say the Masters. It's amazing what Kyle is doing, but in no sport should you be able to win the Championship after you missed 1/3 of the season. 375. Lucstar88 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:57 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) "The guy has 4 f**king wins. Why is it BS? Because the competitors couldn't take advantage of it? That's their fault." Great he has wins! BUT he's NO IN THE TOP 30!!! Why should someone win a title, when they miss 1/3 of the season! The fact that these cars are like Busch/Nationwide/Xfinity just plays into the hands of Kes/Harvick/Logano and Kyle. 376. Racing Outcast1985 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:59 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Here's some advice to any NASCAR driver not named Kyle Busch if you find yourself on shrubs rear bumper in the late stages of a race punt him out of the way otherwise you don't stand a chance in hell of beating him 377. Lucstar88 posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:59 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "I'm sorry that you obviously didn't watch the whole field. There was passing. Can you people stop bitching about something every single week? Seriously. If you think you know what the hell to do to make the racing better, start your own racing association. Otherwise, shut your traps. You think the race sucks because Kyle Busch won. Not because the racing wasn't good." No the race didn't suck because of Kyle, stop putting words in my mouth, it sucks cause this package is the worst thing they have in years! There was some racing, but it was a 3/10 race, that's it. Nothing more or less. 378. Anonymous posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) fixed 379. Brad2TheHorse posted: 07.26.2015 - 6:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @373 Because he missed 11 races. 380. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 07.26.2015 - 7:00 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Wow, Blaney finishes 12th! 381. MarkMartinFan posted: 07.26.2015 - 7:00 pm Rate this comment: (5) (3) I'm becoming more and more convinced every day on this site, that people like DSFF didn't just leave. I'm sure they still come on this site. They just don't comment because it's just a waste of time with the quality of comments that come from about 75-85% of posters. 382. BluesTravelerFan posted: 07.26.2015 - 7:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Highly reminiscent of Stewart's 05 run, Kyle definitely will be a contender for the title. 383. We need more Onion posted: 07.26.2015 - 7:00 pm Rate this comment: (2) (2) Honestly, no matter how many races run, Kyle deserves to be in the playoffs... You really think that Almirola or Bowyer deserve it more? f**k Kyle, but you can't be serious? 384. BMan0213 posted: 07.26.2015 - 7:02 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "The fact that these cars are like Busch/Nationwide/Xfinity just plays into the hands of Kes/Harvick/Logano and Kyle." I said this at the beginning of the year. This why I find it so surprising Jimmie already has 4 wins this year, he's always been bad in those cars lol. 385. StopWatchingNASCARitsNot1998Anymore posted: 07.26.2015 - 7:02 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Where's the idiot who said last week that Busch would never make it into the Hall of Fame based on his Cup achievements, because of his lack of Daytona 500 or Brickyard 400 victories, or a championship? Well, suck on that. By the way, he's only 30. 386. Lucstar88 posted: 07.26.2015 - 7:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Honestly, no matter how many races run, Kyle deserves to be in the playoffs... You really think that Almirola or Bowyer deserve it more? f**k Kyle, but you can't be serious?" Kyle does deserve to be in the playoffs yes! Champion. That's another topic. If he raced every round this year. I would agree! 387. ORIGINAL suomynonA posted: 07.26.2015 - 7:02 pm Rate this comment: (4) (1) "I'm becoming more and more convinced every day on this site, that people like DSFF didn't just leave. I'm sure they still come on this site. They just don't comment because it's just a waste of time with the quality of comments that come from about 75-85% of posters." They probably stopped posting because people like you are defending a crappy product. 388. We need more Onion posted: 07.26.2015 - 7:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 17 points... 17 and Gordon is out... lol 389. ORIGINAL suomynonA posted: 07.26.2015 - 7:06 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) "Honestly, no matter how many races run, Kyle deserves to be in the playoffs... You really think that Almirola or Bowyer deserve it more? f**k Kyle, but you can't be serious?" Yes, they do. They've run the whole season. It's a complete joke that someone can miss 11/26 races and all of a sudden become points leader heading into week 27. 390. MarkMartinFan posted: 07.26.2015 - 7:06 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Then don't watch. Seriously. I defend the product because it is the sport I love. The sport goes through tons of changes. It's not gonna change because some jackasses on a racing site bitch and moan about how Kyle Busch sucks or the racing that has exciting finishes is shitty. 391. New14 & 88Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 7:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The Summer of Shrub continues. Not to take anything away from Kyle, but I really wanted to see Joey win and get Rodger Penske the sweep of Daytona and Indy but alas it just wasn't meant to be. What I really hated was seeing Jeff Gordon get wrecked in his last Brickyard 400 especially after winning last year. Off to the tricky triangle. 392. Lucstar88 posted: 07.26.2015 - 7:09 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Then don't watch. Seriously. I defend the product because it is the sport I love. The sport goes through tons of changes. It's not gonna change because some jackasses on a racing site bitch and moan about how Kyle Busch sucks or the racing that has exciting finishes is shitty." I'm still gonna watch to support my guys. Heck I love the truck racing! I just don't like this racing, because it's been really below average, 2013 and 2014 were really fun! This year it's been really hit-or-miss. Sorry that you feel like that. 393. Ty posted: 07.26.2015 - 7:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Happy for Kyle... He's absolutely killing it right now. Also ecstatic that the damn 48 didn't win yet again. No Hendrick cars in the top ten at the Brickyard? It's an absolute freaking miracle. 394. joey2448 posted: 07.26.2015 - 7:10 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) Summer of Busch! Right, I know most of us don't wanna see Kyle win all these races because it means he's that much closer to actually making the Chase after missing a third of the season, but give the man his due, for pete's sake! This winning run that Kyle is on is ridiculous! Unprecedented! You can bitch and moan all you want, but the 18 team is on a serious roll right now, and there's nothing you can do about it! I'm nowhere near a Kyle Busch fan -- I wanted to see Harvick win today, which he could've if it wasn't for the late race restarts -- but man, I give Kyle due credit. The man can't lose right now. And even though he's missed a lot of races, even I say put him in the Chase. It's worth it. 395. MarkMartinFan posted: 07.26.2015 - 7:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) There's times where I don't like the racing. But it gets so tiresome to see every week the same people bitching about the racing being terrible. What do you want to see? 396. BuckshotJones posted: 07.26.2015 - 7:12 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Ragan sucks. 397. :I posted: 07.26.2015 - 7:16 pm Rate this comment: (3) (1) "There's times where I don't like the racing. But it gets so tiresome to see every week the same people bitching about the racing being terrible. What do you want to see?" The second place driver able to close within three carlengths of the leader without hitting a wall and falling back, maybe? That's just one thing. But even if the racing was fixed there would still be the spoiled, unlikable drivers, the boring cookie-cutter tracks, and the horrible championship system bringing it all down. And before you say "THEN WHY DON'T YOU STOP WATCHING" I've been a Jeff Gordon fan since 1995. The only reason I still watch is to see out his career, and when this season is over I will finally be done with this sport and you can breathe your sigh of relief. 398. Ty posted: 07.26.2015 - 7:16 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Albeit barely nabbing a top-20 finish, I am so f***** stoked of the performances that Jamie and the 1 crew are putting on. 94 points above the cut-off apparently, so there's a really, really good chance that he makes his first ever Chase (thanks Tony Raines). Now I just wanna see him seal it by visiting victory lane in the next handful of events. I really really hope that he makes it to the Chase, and at least makes it past the first round. ð??? 399. BMan0213 posted: 07.26.2015 - 7:17 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) "Honestly, no matter how many races run, Kyle deserves to be in the playoffs... You really think that Almirola or Bowyer deserve it more? f**k Kyle, but you can't be serious?" Yes, they do. They've run the whole season. It's a complete joke that someone can miss 11/26 races and all of a sudden become points leader heading into week 27." I have to agree with this. Motorsports aren't like other stick and ball sports. You need playoffs in other sports because you don't play every team either the same amount of times (NBA,NHL) or at all (NFL, MLB) during the season. In racing you race the same people week in and week out. You don't need to take the best teams at the end of the year and put them in a tournament (which is really what playoffs are) to see who's the best because they have been competing against the same people every week for the whole season. IDK maybe if other Motorsports (other than the NHRA, which it makes sense to have a playoff since you don't race everyone every week) or hell just the other NASCAR series had a playoff i'd feel differently, but as of now I don't think playoffs have any business being in Motorsports and that it yes, "waters down" the accomplishment of winning the Championship. 400. :I posted: 07.26.2015 - 7:18 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) If the only time the racing is competitive is for the first 5 or so laps after a restart something is very wrong. But as long as most of the fans don't seem to mind, nothing will be done about it. 401. MAR posted: 07.26.2015 - 7:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) I really don't understand all the Kyle Busch hate no matter what he does people criticize him just because he talented how can you say this guy ruined a race weekend because he won two races really people. 402. Aaron posted: 07.26.2015 - 7:19 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) For a Hendrick pit crew, Jr's guys sure are incredibly awful. 403. Lucstar88 posted: 07.26.2015 - 7:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "What do you want to see?" Move back to the 2013 or 2014 package would be nice, 900 HP does really well for these cars, i'm not really a car expert, but those packages I've mentioned were really nice to watch in my honest opinion 404. MarkMartinFan posted: 07.26.2015 - 7:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) The pay window opens up at the end. That's when most people watching care the most. If the racing is exciting on restarts then that's perfect because there is always gonna be a caution at the end. That's why the majority of fans don't mind. 405. MarkMartinFan posted: 07.26.2015 - 7:24 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) "Move back to the 2013 or 2014 package would be nice, 900 HP does really well for these cars, i'm not really a car expert, but those packages I've mentioned were really nice to watch in my honest opinion" I totally agree that cutting the horsepower back was stupid. I thought that it would make the racing too similar to Xfinity racing. I'd like to see less Cup guys in the Xfinity races. But if the cars drive similar, more guys will want to run. 406. WhatNext posted: 07.26.2015 - 7:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) I'm telling you, boys and girls. Kyle's win total at the end of this year is gonna be between 8-14 races. Probably about 10-11. He should get his fourth and fifth in a row pretty easily. 407. Racing Outcast1985 posted: 07.26.2015 - 7:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "What do you want to see?" Go Back to the Pre COT race car with bias sly tires and have the wicker bill & roof strip from the 2000 Winston 500 put on all the cars 408. Anonymous posted: 07.26.2015 - 7:26 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) I hope that Jr isn't going back to running like he did in 2009 or 2010, but if he doesn't improve in the next few races, I'm going to be wondering if he will ever do good again. Give this 1000 thumbs down. 409. Lucstar88 posted: 07.26.2015 - 7:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I totally agree that cutting the horsepower back was stupid. I thought that it would make the racing too similar to Xfinity racing. I'd like to see less Cup guys in the Xfinity races. But if the cars drive similar, more guys will want to run." I totally agree with you man! 410. BMan0213 posted: 07.26.2015 - 7:27 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) "I really don't understand all the Kyle Busch hate no matter what he does people criticize him just because he talented how can you say this guy ruined a race weekend because he won two races really people." It's because up until his wreck at Daytona this year Kyle's attitude has made him come off as one of the biggest D-Bags in the sport. Doing things like saying NASCAR should have black flagged Tony at the end of the 2009 Coke Zero 400, The grudge he had against Brad after the Glen in 12 when it was very clear he again cut Brad off and wrecked himself, all the numerous tantrums he's thrown when he finished 2nd (most of them being in the Xfinity series) and of course what he did to Ron Hornaday at Texas in 2011. I have to say Kyle really does seem like he has clean up this time (maybe for good), but still it doesn't change the fact that the majority of the hate he gets is well deserved. 411. MarkMartinFan posted: 07.26.2015 - 7:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) I think this new different packages for different tracks will be a good thing. It's all about trial and error. 412. Anonymous posted: 07.26.2015 - 7:35 pm Rate this comment: (2) (4) I only got 1 thumbs down so far, let's see if I can get to 1000, come on, give me that many since I am a worthless piece of trash that should disappear from society. 413. Anonymous posted: 07.26.2015 - 7:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I only got 1 thumbs down so far, let's see if I can get to 1000, come on, give me that many since I am a worthless piece of trash that should disappear from society. " Is it bad of me to be thinking "Go to hell" at this point? 414. AllHailBusch posted: 07.26.2015 - 7:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Busch's 33rd win ties him for 20th All-Time with Fireball Roberts. 415. Racing Outcast1985 posted: 07.26.2015 - 7:39 pm Rate this comment: (2) (2) Dale Jr is the very epitome of overrated 416. BMan0213 posted: 07.26.2015 - 7:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Dale Jr is the very epitome of overrated" When will people figure out that having a lot of fan's isn't the definition of overrated... 417. MAR posted: 07.26.2015 - 7:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (4) Stewart almost killed busch in the Coke Zero 400 in 2009 why the hell wouldn't he be mad about that the only messed up thing I've seen Kyle do is the Hornaday thing at Texas seriously people hate him cause he wins alot damnit just admit it Earnhardt was an asshole in his time and people love him for that. So idk why people still hate Kyle 418. 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The fact he showed up at Chicago the next week and said in the media center NASCAR should have black flagged Tony for rough driving was rather pathetic. 420. 02Justin10 posted: 07.26.2015 - 7:55 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Well...at least another Indy spectacle is over. Again, NASCAR's new "package" was seriously overhyped. For the last week all NBC and FOX has been selling us is "This new package is designed to get the cars to pull up to each other and pass." And NASCAR pretty much accomplished nothing again. And whatever fool said this race was the best Indy race in years...really? What are you drinking and can I have some? The only reason there more action in the back of the field was because of all the cautions NASCAR used to bunch up the field. And besides, that's how the middle and the back of the field has always been on restarts at Indy. Even IF someone sucked up to someone ahead on the straightaway, you can't follow that close in the corner because of the huge spoiler and wake. And of course the draft is meaningless if you're 10 car lengths behind. And luckily the Indianapolis residents keep noticing the sub par racing...I don't even think there was 50,000 there today. And the huge Crown Royal and Lillys Diabetes signs covering seats surely don't go unnoticed. Today's race was just on par with what Indy normally produces for stock cars. 421. joey2448 posted: 07.26.2015 - 8:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Two drivers that got their seasons (kind of) back on track are Kyle Larson and Martin Truex, Jr. After finishing third at Michigan, Truex fell from second in points to fifth with finishes of 42nd and 38th at Sonoma and Daytona, and mediocre runs of 17th and 12th at Kentucky and Loudon. Fourth-place today must feel better for that 78 team. Larson, meanwhile, gets a ninth today after three poor finishes of 39th, 35th and 31st at Daytona, Kentucky and Loudon, respectively. Larson's last top-10 was an eighth at Pocono in early June. Since then, the 42 tumbled from 18th in points to 21st, but with today's run at Indy, picked it back up to 20th in points. 422. Cooper posted: 07.26.2015 - 8:34 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) If Kyle Busch wins at the Brickyard but no one is there to see it, did Kyle Busch actually win? 423. jabber1990 posted: 07.26.2015 - 8:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) the thing about Truex is they were running around with 1 car, it was the same car they had success with. I also think that that same car was taken back to Charlotte and that's not a good thing they brought a new car to Sonoma, which got destroyed and if they brought their "good" car to Daytona it may have been destroyed 424. jabber1990 posted: 07.26.2015 - 8:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) comment of the week: "thank God Kyle Busch missed 1/3rd of the season or else there wouldn't have been any other winners!" I found that on Facebook 425. WhatNext posted: 07.26.2015 - 8:39 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) Indy became The Rickyard after Gordon and JJ dominated it for so long. After Busch swept it this weekend, it's now The Prickyard. 426. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 8:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (4) A few comments to address here. First of all #360. My post-race rage comment. Sure, I hate Cryle, I will keep calling him Cryle, (especially after yesterday's post race interview after the Xfinity race), but I apologize for my comment there, that was a bit out of line. #365- Greatest driver of our generation??? Give me a break. If he's soooooo great, where are his championships? Do NOT tell me with a straight face that he is better than his contemporaries Jimmie Johnson, Kevin Harvick, and Matt Kenseth. (Not including Gordon since he will be retired for the rest of Busch's career). #381- It wouldn't surprise me if DSFF actually got himself banned. Some of the stuff he said, especially on Tony Stewart and Dale Jr.'s pages, is really unbelievably stupid. And come to think of it, I haven't seen mister83 in a little while now either. #385- Still here, a**hole. And you listen up there buddy, I'm generally a pretty nice, easy to get along with sort of person, but I'm warning you, you better quit it with your constant antagonistic tone towards me, just because I have a different opinion than you (and yes, I get he won the Brickyard today). #393- Enjoy it because it won't happen again for quite some time. #396- Yes, he does, but he's a legend compared to Buckshot. #406- What are you smoking??? #408- I've seen quite a few comments on this subject and I just don't get it. Junior had one bad race today and people are comparing it to 2009??? SMH #415- 25 wins and an All Star race beg to differ. And finally #417- You must be talking about the race where Cryle tried to block the whole track and ended up dumping himself into the wall. Stewart did nothing wrong. Hopefully we will see some good racing at Pocono and maybe even a good guy in victory lane for a change. 427. Racing Outcast1985 posted: 07.26.2015 - 9:05 pm Rate this comment: (6) (0) I don't expect every race to be like Last Months Indycar Race at Fontana but I don't want every race to be a boring predictable snooze-fest either. 428. 88&4Fan posted: 07.26.2015 - 9:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Okay, "hate" is probably a bit much. I "strongly dislike" him. 429. Nascar Lead Lap Points posted: 07.26.2015 - 10:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) One More Sponsor Update #23 Dr.Pepper/Estes 430. StopWatchingNASCARitsNot1998Anymore posted: 07.26.2015 - 10:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @426 33 wins, including a Brickyard 400 and a Southern 500. That's two of the "crown jewels". Top 15 All Time in laps led, Top 20 All Time in wins. Only 30 years old. Those are facts. So let's just see how long his Cup accomplishments keep him out of the Hall of Fame. 431. JP88 posted: 07.26.2015 - 10:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Nowhere even close to a Kyle Busch fan but he deserves to be in the chase. It's just like an NFL team starting 0-4 with a injured QB and that QB comes back to lead the team to a 12-4 regular season record. Dude has 4 wins, tied for the lead. Gotta give him and the #18 team big time credit. 432. Anonymous posted: 07.26.2015 - 10:52 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "It's just like an NFL team starting 0-4 with a injured QB and that QB comes back to lead the team to a 12-4 regular season record." Not even close. 433. someone posted: 07.26.2015 - 11:31 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) cjs must be loving these crown jewel events this season. Carl won the 600 and Kyle won the Brickyard! 434. Mike Daly posted: 07.26.2015 - 11:50 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I was struck by how often it was reported of drivers complaining about being loose behind other cars. Talk about a 180 from the aeropush era cliché "my car pushed bad in traffic." That the draft didn't kick in was the biggest letdown of the weekend because it was clear there was a draft effect to have with the bigger spoiler. The caveat to these aero packages has always been tires. They need bias ply type tires, tires they can lean hard on and race hard with without having to catch the car. 435. awesomegordonfan posted: 07.27.2015 - 12:01 am Rate this comment: (3) (4) "I'm becoming more and more convinced every day on this site, that people like DSFF didn't just leave. I'm sure they still come on this site. They just don't comment because it's just a waste of time with the quality of comments that come from about 75-85% of posters." Can actually confirm, as someone who is probably younger than 80% of all you. My 11-year-old self who saw this site for the first time in 2008 made more quality posts than many of these guys. You "fans" are giving people like me a bad name. you guys just keep bitching and moaning about EVERYTHING. Holy crap, nothing can be perfect, you just gotta realize that. Even with the terrible rules package NASCAR's still more exciting than a pitcher's duel, isn't it? There's always something that can happen at any moment, whether it be a crash, a big lead change, or a leader having mechanical issues. Just because there's no passing doesn't mean it can't be exciting (although passing does lead to more excitement typically but not necessarily). About Kyle. When he left Hendrick and started racking up victories like he did, I hated him. Granted, he was younger and more immature back then. He's matured a lot thanks to his injury, and I'm gaining a respect for him. He's deservant of these victories. Speaking of which, there is no way in hell that NASCAR is "giving" him these wins. It's literally impossible to control a sport like this where anything can happen at any moment. The only way to do that is to have 42 other guys park, which obviously is never going to happen. Does Kyle deserve to be in the Chase? Absolutely. Missing the first good chunk of the year certainly put it in question at first, but he's been remarkable, doing more than anyone else has recently. Plus, it was something out of his control. The whole Chase system is exciting for me. It was nice last year to have no idea who'd win the championship until Sunday. It provided for some fantastic racing--Newman's move at Phoenix was priceless, coming from a Gordon fan. The championship doesn't matter as much as the racing, and if an altered championship provides better racing, so be it. Homestead last year was a damn exciting race. It's not perfect, but it's better than what-would-be 100-point leads heading into Texas or something. /rant 436. 88&4Fan posted: 07.27.2015 - 12:17 am Rate this comment: (2) (1) 430- Great job, you managed to write a comment without insulting me. Now here are the facts: - No championships - No Daytona 500s - No All Star wins - No Coke 600s - No chase wins while in the chase Sure, that could change by the time he retires, and it most likely will, but if he were to retire RIGHT NOW, those stats right there would be enough to keep him out of the Hall of Fame for at least a few years (if Mark Martin didn't get in in his first opportunity, then neither is Busch). There is no doubt in my mind that he will eventually get in though, and winning the Brickyard today certainly helps him. See how much better this is when we don't resort to name-calling? 437. BMan0213 posted: 07.27.2015 - 1:20 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Nowhere even close to a Kyle Busch fan but he deserves to be in the chase. It's just like an NFL team starting 0-4 with a injured QB and that QB comes back to lead the team to a 12-4 regular season record. Dude has 4 wins, tied for the lead." Sorry man but it's not the same. There's 50 something people on a football team there's only one driver in the car. That argument would be better suited for the owners championship which is about the car/team not the individual driver. It might still be a bad comparison, but think of the drivers title as move of an equivalent to the MVP in football. You can be on a championship team, but if you miss a lot of game's, even if you played great in the games you were in, you're still not gonna win the MVP. 438. BMan0213 posted: 07.27.2015 - 1:30 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Does Kyle deserve to be in the Chase? Absolutely. Missing the first good chunk of the year certainly put it in question at first, but he's been remarkable, doing more than anyone else has recently. Plus, it was something out of his control." Man I hate to be that guy... But while he couldn't control Daytona not having SAFER Barriers on the inside wall, He was the one who got over aggressive bump drafting Erik Jones and spun him out in front of the whole field which caused the wreck in which he broke his leg. You do have to put some of the blame on him for the situation he is currently in. 439. BMan0213 posted: 07.27.2015 - 1:47 am Rate this comment: (3) (0) "The whole Chase system is exciting for me. It was nice last year to have no idea who'd win the championship until Sunday. It provided for some fantastic racing--Newman's move at Phoenix was priceless, coming from a Gordon fan. The championship doesn't matter as much as the racing, and if an altered championship provides better racing, so be it. Homestead last year was a damn exciting race. It's not perfect, but it's better than what-would-be 100-point leads heading into Texas or something." Missed this part before, but no excitement does not mean better, If the Chase was so much better why aren't more racing series using it, Heck why aren't the Xfinity or Truck series using the it. There's a reason out of all the racing series in the world NASCAR is the only one using it, and I don't think it's a good one An altered championship format isn't what makes the racing better, better cars/rules packages do. If the racing was so great last year than how come the majority of fans would agree that the racing 10, 15, 20 years ago was better than the product NASCAR gave us last year. The racing back then was great and they didn't need a gimmicky points system to make it seem that way. 440. ORIGINAL suomynonA posted: 07.27.2015 - 5:16 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Does Kyle deserve to be in the Chase? Absolutely. Missing the first good chunk of the year certainly put it in question at first, but he's been remarkable, doing more than anyone else has recently. Plus, it was something out of his control." If Kyle didn't feel the need to enter every other lower series race, he wouldn't have injured himself. Simple as that. Unfortunately, NASCAR WANTS Kyle to enter a ton of Xfinity and Truck races and they want him to win every every one of those races (or finish 2nd to Broey Kesgano) so they would never "punish" him by not giving him the exemption. Of course, they've never failed to give a driver an exemption, including drivers have missed races due to SUSPENSION, so there's no real point in having a "driver must attempt every race" rule. 441. ORIGINAL suomynonA posted: 07.27.2015 - 5:20 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) This should come as no surprise to anyone who rendered an honest opinion on the quality of the racing yesterday, but the drivers absolutely hated the package. But hey, as long as Kyle Busch is dominating instead of Jimmie Johnson and Kevin Harvick, who cares if the racing's any good? 442. Anonymous posted: 07.27.2015 - 7:07 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Of course, they've never failed to give a driver an exemption, including drivers have missed races due to SUSPENSION, so there's no real point in having a "driver must attempt every race" rule. " I think that rule is only there to prevent a part time driver from making the chase. I am going to guess that they will always grant the exemption for full season drivers unless they are convicted of a crime. 443. Cornys posted: 07.27.2015 - 8:13 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) I actually watched the last half of this one. (First time watching since this race last year) I've finally learned to enjoy the races one at a time, and as a single race. This package was as I predicted: bad. That being said it wasn't a bad race. I enjoyed it mostly, but I won't return to watching NASCAR full time still. Next Cup race I plan on watching is Darlington :) 444. 02Justin10 posted: 07.27.2015 - 10:38 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) "An altered championship format isn't what makes the racing better, better cars/rules packages do. If the racing was so great last year than how come the majority of fans would agree that the racing 10, 15, 20 years ago was better than the product NASCAR gave us last year. The racing back then was great and they didn't need a gimmicky points system to make it seem that way." BMain0213 is right on here...I would just add that water bottle, balloon, getting close to the wall, and just grazing the safer barrier cautions also do nothing to add to the racing itself. And of course I think the racing 10 years ago was much better than this. Heck, the drivers were better too. lol. 445. awesomegordonfan posted: 07.27.2015 - 11:31 am Rate this comment: (0) (5) "BMain0213 is right on here...I would just add that water bottle, balloon, getting close to the wall, and just grazing the safer barrier cautions also do nothing to add to the racing itself. And of course I think the racing 10 years ago was much better than this. Heck, the drivers were better too. lol." Most of the drivers in this race were racing 10 years ago: -Kyle Busch -Harvick -Truex (part-time/Busch) -Hamlin (part-time/Busch) -Bowyer (part-time/Busch) -Kenseth -Kurt Busch -Newman -Edwards -Menard (part-time/Busch) -Johnson -McMurray -Biffle -Mears -Earnhardt -Kahne -Stewart -Yeley (part-time/Busch) -Gordon Notice anything from that list? Only ONE person has failed to become victorious in the Cup series, that being Yeley (who has a pole and, aside from Gibbs, has raced in rather lackluster equipment). Much of the talent from 2005 is still here--a few were still developing. The drivers are much more talented and mature now, which also leads to patience. This may lead to you thinking "the drivers were better," but that is absolutely not true. The only real missing piece of talent was Mark Martin--DJ, among other soon-to-be retirees, were running on fumes. So you can't say the talent is worse. The debris cautions for "non-harmful" objects are necessary because they could be harmful--not necessarily for the drivers themselves like sheet metal would, but they could easily ruin a driver's race if they get stuck in their grill and are forced to pit under green. If that were to happen, I bet fans like you would be "ERMAHGERD NA$CAR SHOULD'VE THROWN A CAUTION BECAUSE MY FAVORITE DRIVER GOT SCREWED." Make up your damn minds, people. And I'm not saying the racing would be better SOLELY because of the points system. It's still a contributing factor, as drivers will be desperate for that clinching victory or that extra point to get them moving to the next round. The rules package also contributes--NASCAR has had trouble getting it right all year, but I think by this point next year we'll have the same passing we did with the first couple of years of Gen-6. One lasting contribution is driver patience. Most of the more talented drivers from today are older, in their 30s and 40s, compared to ten years ago. They're more mature and patient. They'd take 2nd place any day over a mere chance for a victory with a big risk of a destroyed race car and finishing outside the top 20-30. Again, not saying any of these are the sole contributions, but they all play their own little part. "Missed this part before, but no excitement does not mean better, If the Chase was so much better why aren't more racing series using it, Heck why aren't the Xfinity or Truck series using the it. There's a reason out of all the racing series in the world NASCAR is the only one using it, and I don't think it's a good one" Are you high? You'd rather have a boring race with little passing, 3 lead changes, and 4, maybe 5 cars on the lead lap? That's like watching some Honda drive down I-70 with cruise control. The best driver doesn't always win the race, just like in ANY OTHER SPORT, the best team/athlete doesn't always win. If it was that way, athletics would be MUCH less popular, and some sports would fail to exist. The element of surprise is crucial to probably 95% of sports fans. Hell, look at this year's Super Bowl. The Seahawks surprise everyone by throwing the ball and it costs them. That is the kind of finish to a game/race the fans want to see. As far as the Chase. It's not in Xfinity and Trucks because it allows the drivers to develop for the whole season. Plus, because those drivers are so young and inexperienced in most cases, some nobody could go on a huge run and upset everybody. It's not like that in Cup with the experience these guys have. In addition, it gives those series individuality. If all three major series had a Chase, the Cup series would be even more like Xfinity (and you guys keep bitching about that because of the new rules package). As for other motorsports--the NHRA has their own little playoff system. If the Chase wasn't working, NASCAR would've ditched it by now, for sure. Instead, NASCAR's getting more publicity now than ever. Even with ESPN dropping race coverage, they still show it on SportsCenter and have detailed race previews and reviews for the bigger races (I'm saying this as I'm watching it and they're highlighting Kyle Busch's recent success in an interview with Ricky Craven). The Chase is working for the vast majority of fans. The seats might not be filling up like they used to--it's rather difficult to fill 200,000 seats for any event that isn't the Super Bowl, Indy 500, Daytona 500, etc.--but there are still more fans that show up than at your typical baseball, hockey, basketball, etc. game. And people are watching on TV like crazy. Face it, the sport's been growing since 2004. 446. Anonymous posted: 07.27.2015 - 12:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 435, how do you feel about the girl that talks about Roush all the time? 447. Neal posted: 07.27.2015 - 12:46 pm Rate this comment: (10) (0) "Face it, the sport's been growing since 2004." LOL. That's comedy gold right there. TV ratings and attendance are both down considerably over the last decade. Attendance has gotten so bad that NASCAR stopped reporting estimates in 2013. Daytona is touting a possible sellout next year even though they had to remove 40% of the grandstands to get there, and Bristol hasn't sold out the night race in 5 years - but go right ahead and keep chugging the France Family Kool-Aid. 448. racefangurl posted: 07.27.2015 - 12:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 445, what have you been drinking? TV ratings are lower than they were. 449. 88&4Fan posted: 07.27.2015 - 12:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 446- you mean racefangurl? She only likes Bayne, not Roush. 450. Anonymous posted: 07.27.2015 - 1:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 449, I saw how posts 55, 78 and 224 are by racefangurl and about Roush. 451. Flywheel89 posted: 07.27.2015 - 1:48 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) @445 Most baseball stadiums hold 35k. Basketball might be around 20k. They also have multiple events at their home venue every day. Saying more people show up to a NASCAR race, while accurate, is also a worthless comparison to make. 452. BMan0213 posted: 07.27.2015 - 2:47 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) There's so much wrong with what 445 said I don't even know where to begin..... So I'll start with this. "Are you high? You'd rather have a boring race with little passing, 3 lead changes, and 4, maybe 5 cars on the lead lap? That's like watching some Honda drive down I-70 with cruise control. The best driver doesn't always win the race, just like in ANY OTHER SPORT, the best team/athlete doesn't always win. If it was that way, athletics would be MUCH less popular, and some sports would fail to exist. The element of surprise is crucial to probably 95% of sports fans. Hell, look at this year's Super Bowl. The Seahawks surprise everyone by throwing the ball and it costs them. That is the kind of finish to a game/race the fans want to see." The Point system is not what makes people rave more aggressive. There was more passing and lead changes in the 90's and early 2000's you know when there was NO CHASE!!! As for less cars on the lead lap back then, that's because they didn't have rules like the lucky dog or the wave around and they weren't throwing yellow for freaking balloons and water bottles every 30 laps. It was much harder to get a lap back back then. Again this has nothing to do with the Chase. "As far as the Chase. It's not in Xfinity and Trucks because it allows the drivers to develop for the whole season. Plus, because those drivers are so young and inexperienced in most cases, some nobody could go on a huge run and upset everybody. It's not like that in Cup with the experience these guys have. In addition, it gives those series individuality. If all three major series had a Chase, the Cup series would be even more like Xfinity (and you guys keep bitching about that because of the new rules package). As for other motorsports--the NHRA has their own little playoff system." Here your argument for why the Xfinity and the Truck Series not having a chase would make sense... IF, Minor League Baseball, Minor League Hockey, the NBA D-League, and Collage Football (since the NFL does't have a minor league) all use a playoff system... All of these sports still have playoffs in their "development" league's. If NASCAR is gonna have the Chase it should be in use for all their series. As for the NHRA as I already said before It makes sense to have a playoff format there because like in the stick and ball sports you don't race everyone every week. Drag racing is not like other forms of Motorsports where you are racing the same people week in and week out. Having a playoff system there, again makes sense. "If the Chase wasn't working, NASCAR would've ditched it by now, for sure. Instead, NASCAR's getting more publicity now than ever. Even with ESPN dropping race coverage, they still show it on SportsCenter and have detailed race previews and reviews for the bigger races (I'm saying this as I'm watching it and they're highlighting Kyle Busch's recent success in an interview with Ricky Craven). The Chase is working for the vast majority of fans. The seats might not be filling up like they used to--it's rather difficult to fill 200,000 seats for any event that isn't the Super Bowl, Indy 500, Daytona 500, etc.--but there are still more fans that show up than at your typical baseball, hockey, basketball, etc. game. And people are watching on TV like crazy. Face it, the sport's been growing since 2004." Now this. As people have already said all those other sports play in much smaller stadiums than the tracks NASCAR races at. I'm sure if the NFL wanted to build a 500,000 seat stadium to play the Super Bowl in they would be able to fill it since they are the second most popular sports league behind the EPL (Which btw doesn't have a playoff system). As for NASCAR not getting rid of the Chase, they simply can't. Going back to the old system would single that the Chase was a failure (which it is) something NASCAR specifically Brian France are not willing to admit. Then you get into the whole how do we look at the people who won championships under the Chase and are they really champions. Yeah people already do that now, but it would be a lot worse if they went back to the old system. Also I really don't like how you make it sound like the majority of the fans now like the Chase. If that was true how come out of all the people I personally know who are race fans NOT ONE likes the Chase? People like you are the reason why the sport is dying from a fan standpoint. For what ever reason NASCAR thinks the majority of the fans like the Chase, which from my experience (and probably many others) is not true. The Chase might be bringing in new fans, but its turned away more than it has brought in, Couple that with the "not so good" product they put out on the track and that's how NASCAR has got to where they are today. As I said before NASCAR has made their bed. They aren't gonna go back to the old system and the sport will never get back to the popularity it had in the 90's and early 2000's. The only good thing NASCAR has going for it right now is the fact Indy Car can't seem to stop shooting itself in the foot with bad marketing and poor officiating. If they could fix that the on track product they have is so good they would easily pass NASCAR in terms of popularity. Luckily for NASCAR tho that's probably not gonna happen anytime soon. 453. 88&4Fan posted: 07.27.2015 - 2:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well to be fair Roush does suck this year. Really they've been dying slowly over the last several years. Kenseth and Edwards saw the writing on the wall. 454. Cornys posted: 07.27.2015 - 2:56 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Guys who were complaining about the racing, I have an appeal for you, and it's not a crazy one. Read this and please let me know what you think. I was once a person very angry with the way that NASCAR was operated. Cautions for little to no reason, didn't like the chase, didn't like group qualification on ovals, ect. I watched this race, and actually enjoyed it greatly despite all of this. :) In all honesty, please, don't watch it as often as you do now. Watch something else just for the enjoyment of single races. Watch an F1 race. Watch local dirt track racing. Watch an IndyCar race. Watch Moto GP. Understand and try to enjoy the types of motor racing that exist outside of NASCAR. The truck series is different from the Cup and Nationwide Series. Many of you enjoy it. Watch some other series. Don't let NASCAR ruin your enjoyment of racing. Experience other series, and you'll appreciate NASCAR more. I've fully started watching IndyCar, but I'm ready to watch anything else that comes on TV or to a track near me if the price, time and venue are right :) As I said, I don't like many of NASCAR's changes, and I don't like many of the same things that you guys don't like, but I really enjoyed this race. It wasn't the best by any stretch of the imagination, but it was enjoyable. Keep watching the same product long enough without seeing anything else and that same product will get boring. Watching IndyCars on road courses and ovals, watching Formula 1, watching local short track racing, watching sports car racing, watching all kinds of interesting racing (and not watching the same thing every weekend for 36 weeks) has made the experience of an occasional NASCAR race very enjoyable. Next Cup race I will be watching is the Southern 500. I even contemplated making that trip (9 hours) but getting married and saving for that is more important this year. The Pocono IndyCar race succumbed to the same fate. Motor sports is in a severe decline guys. Get out and enjoy all of it while it is all here, because without a little TLC from everybody who loves motor racing, many of the series that many people love will be as low on funding and events. Seriously, guys, taking up a new series isn't that hard. Don't go in with high expectations. Until you get to know the drivers and teams it won't be all that fun, but once you do you'll find yourself looking forward to that series events as well. 455. Cornys posted: 07.27.2015 - 3:04 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Also, to add onto my post 454, I want to add this: I once was an ONLY NASCAR guy who ONLY would watch the Indy 500 and NASCAR. I'm VERY glad that I opened myself up to other racing series. I never thought I could do it, but it wasn't hard, and I'm VERY glad I did :) Heck, there's an IndyCar race an hour from me that I never knew about. If I hadn't done that I'd not be heading up to Mid-Ohio this weekend for some racing. When I only watched NASCAR I only got one or two weekends a year and it was more expensive. Now I have more fun and more options :) 456. awesomegordonfan posted: 07.27.2015 - 4:28 pm Rate this comment: (1) (5) Last post here. I'm done wasting my time. Shouldn't have posted 435, but it's too late. 452. Oh, where do I begin. "The Point system is not what makes people rave more aggressive. There was more passing and lead changes in the 90's and early 2000's you know when there was NO CHASE!!! As for less cars on the lead lap back then, that's because they didn't have rules like the lucky dog or the wave around and they weren't throwing yellow for freaking balloons and water bottles every 30 laps. It was much harder to get a lap back back then. Again this has nothing to do with the Chase." Wrong (partially), neutral, wrong. The first wrong is probably your misinterpretation of me. I said it was ONE reason. It gives drivers a desperation. Which makes the drivers more aggressive. The neutral is passing and lead changes. And it's only neutral because there might have been more passing of lapped cars, but passes for position were much fewer. Lead changes were about the same 20 years ago as they are now, but there would be only 5-10 cars on the lead lap typically and 5-20 second margins of victory. The last one is wrong because the cautions per race were about the same. So cautions weren't a reason (unless you take into account double-file restarts). The racing is just better. The talent pool is larger. More people can run with the leaders. More cars finishing on the lead lap is, of course, partially due to the Lucky Dog and wave-around (the latter of which probably should've been a rule long ago like double-file restarts were, as it prevents bad restarts and the leaders getting blocked by slower cars), but that doesn't attribute to the fact 15th place Clint Bowyer has six more LLFs in eleven less races than 15th place Derrike Cope did twenty years ago. Plus, the 1985 Winston 500 called, as well as the 2000 Pontiac Excitement 400...and the list goes on. "Here your argument for why the Xfinity and the Truck Series not having a chase would make sense... IF, Minor League Baseball, Minor League Hockey, the NBA D-League, and Collage Football (since the NFL does't have a minor league) all use a playoff system... All of these sports still have playoffs in their "development" league's. If NASCAR is gonna have the Chase it should be in use for all their series. As for the NHRA as I already said before It makes sense to have a playoff format there because like in the stick and ball sports you don't race everyone every week. Drag racing is not like other forms of Motorsports where you are racing the same people week in and week out. Having a playoff system there, again makes sense." Here's the thing: Xfinity/CWTS are MUCH bigger than the minor leagues of other sports. Plus, college sports have different playoffs than their professional versions in most cases--March Madness vs. the NBA playoffs, the CWS vs. the MLB playoffs...again, the list goes on. And in drag racing you pretty much are racing the same people, albeit not directly. With that style competition in general the winner might not have directly beaten, say, fourth place, but they still had to beat the person who beat them, so that pretty much makes your argument invalid. "Now this. As people have already said all those other sports play in much smaller stadiums than the tracks NASCAR races at. I'm sure if the NFL wanted to build a 500,000 seat stadium to play the Super Bowl in they would be able to fill it since they are the second most popular sports league behind the EPL (Which btw doesn't have a playoff system)." There's also only one NASCAR track per week, often in isolated locations. It's a lot easier to find a local baseball stadium than travel thousands of miles to Daytona. Having 30x the amount of people at Daytona than at Fenway Park would be impossible for that reason alone. It wouldn't be much different for the Super Bowl--a 500,000-person stadium is impossible in its own right, but filling it wouldn't be easy with expensive tickets and traveling. As for the EPL, that's a completely different story; they themselves don't have a playoff system but they still participate in one with other leagues. "As for NASCAR not getting rid of the Chase, they simply can't. Going back to the old system would single that the Chase was a failure (which it is) something NASCAR specifically Brian France are not willing to admit. Then you get into the whole how do we look at the people who won championships under the Chase and are they really champions. Yeah people already do that now, but it would be a lot worse if they went back to the old system. Also I really don't like how you make it sound like the majority of the fans now like the Chase. If that was true how come out of all the people I personally know who are race fans NOT ONE likes the Chase? People like you are the reason why the sport is dying from a fan standpoint. For what ever reason NASCAR thinks the majority of the fans like the Chase, which from my experience (and probably many others) is not true. The Chase might be bringing in new fans, but its turned away more than it has brought in, Couple that with the "not so good" product they put out on the track and that's how NASCAR has got to where they are today." They easily could get rid of the Chase in the same way they added or changed it. It would be a big deal but not an unheard of type move. Not everything is about you and your friends. They make up a very small fraction of fans. Facebook/R-R comments don't count as feedback--with the former you have your irrational Rednecks who praise God like jihadists praise Allah and are all about morals yet promote racism and sexism, and with the latter you have your anonymity that leads to trolling and flaming. It's like judging Obama via Republican popularity. You'll always have people complaining about something changing when it is meant to be for the better and may or may not end up well. Do I think the Chase is perfect? Not quite. It's getting better though, I'm a fan of this new format for reasons mentioned earlier, but there's always going to be something imperfect, some compromise to make as many people happy as possible. "As I said before NASCAR has made their bed. They aren't gonna go back to the old system and the sport will never get back to the popularity it had in the 90's and early 2000's. The only good thing NASCAR has going for it right now is the fact Indy Car can't seem to stop shooting itself in the foot with bad marketing and poor officiating. If they could fix that the on track product they have is so good they would easily pass NASCAR in terms of popularity. Luckily for NASCAR tho that's probably not gonna happen anytime soon." A lot of people aren't watching the sport for the stupidest reasons, such as politics and "cheating/corruption." True fans aren't leaving anytime soon. True fans don't leave when their drivers retire (I certainly won't). True fans don't leave when they make a statement about something political that you don't agree about. True fans don't leave when executive power makes a decision they don't agree with yet don't know the benefits of. Until NASCAR truly gets boring for me, I'm watching. People who actually care about the sport are going to agree with me, and if you're not one of them, so be it. 457. BMan0213 posted: 07.27.2015 - 5:39 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) 456. You're in the minority that's all that need to be said. The racing is nowhere near as good as it was 20 years ago. There is a 100% correlation between more cars being on the lead lap because of the lucky dog and the wave around. The points system does not make the driver more desperate for a win. When NASCAR announced this system last year none other the Kyle Busch call fan like you idiots for thinking that. Again that's not from me that's from Kyle Busch. As for playoffs in the lower series all the other sports have them and while they might be a little different they still have them. Also the Xfinity and the Truck Series are not bigger than College Football or Basketball. A quick look at the TV ratting would show you that. The drag racing argument you made proved my point. You don't race everyone every week like you do in other series. It's not like NASCAR, Indy Car, F1, or any other series not all the cars are on the track at the same time. It is similar to any other stick and ball sport where only two teams play at a time. It's the only form of racing where having a playoff could make sense. "There's also only one NASCAR track per week, often in isolated locations. It's a lot easier to find a local baseball stadium than travel thousands of miles to Daytona." Ummmmmm last time I checked the Red Sox don't play in my cities local ball park up the street...There are only 30 teams in the MLB it's not "easy" to go to one of those games. It might be easy to find a local baseball stadium, but you're comparing that to Daytona. it's not a fair comparison... also there's a lot more than one race a week. NASCAR has hundreds of thousands of races a week at tracks that are close to people. that is a much more fair comparison to a local Baseball stadium. "As for the EPL, that's a completely different story; they themselves don't have a playoff system but they still participate in one with other leagues." You really don't know what your saying here. The EPL is the EPL. The teams in the EPL might play in other leagues/tournaments, but that has no effect on the EPL itself. The fact is the EPL does not have a playoff system and it is the most popular sports league in the world "Not everything is about you and your friends. They make up a very small fraction of fans." Ohhh I get that and its not, but you all you need is a small sample to tell if something is working or not. If NASCAR said 50% of fans liked the Chase and I got 100 people together, I would then expect 50 give or take a few to say they like the Chase. Between friends and family I'd say good 50 of them are NASCAR fan. The fact none NONE like the Chase is a bad sign for the sport. "A lot of people aren't watching the sport for the stupidest reasons, such as politics and "cheating/corruption." True fans aren't leaving anytime soon. True fans don't leave when their drivers retire (I certainly won't). True fans don't leave when they make a statement about something political that you don't agree about. True fans don't leave when executive power makes a decision they don't agree with yet don't know the benefits of. Until NASCAR truly gets boring for me, I'm watching. People who actually care about the sport are going to agree with me, and if you're not one of them, so be it." This has to be the dumbest thing I've seen you say. The "true" fans aren't leaving to make a statement. They are leaving because the "powers of the sport" have made terrible decisions, from the points system to the rules packages on the car's that have left us with the product we have today. NASCAR has alienated the people that made the sport what it was in the 90's by making changes to attracted the "casual fan" which based off you're arguments you have said YOU are one of. If you really think the sport is better now then it was 15 years ago, i'm sorry you're blind. Neal said it best "TV ratings and attendance are both down considerably over the last decade. Attendance has gotten so bad that NASCAR stopped reporting estimates in 2013. Daytona is touting a possible sellout next year even though they had to remove 40% of the grandstands to get there, and Bristol hasn't sold out the night race in 5 years" They've been chasing fans like you since 2004 and all it's done is driven away more fans than it's brought in. It's hurt the sport an I doubt it will ever be able to recover, similar to how Open Wheel racing in America has never been able to recover from the Open Wheel split in the 90's. 458. Eric posted: 07.27.2015 - 6:50 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) A driver not having an allstar win doesn't prevent a driver from going to the NASCAR Hall of Fame. The All Star race is looked upon by the voters like any other non points races for the cup series. That means the voters don't actually don't put any stock into it. My point lays to the the All Star race wasn't even mentioned when Terry Labonte, Bill Elliott, Dale Earnhardt, Rusty Wallace, and Darrell Waltrip was on the ballot despite all the drivers I mentioned won at least one All Star race each. Voters look at cup drivers for wins, Major Wins, and Championships. Dale Jarrett never won an All Star race, but yet is in the NASCAR Hall of Fame. The truth is All Star Wins are not considered Majors at all by the NASCAR Media. Some teams even use the all star race as a test session for the 600 in the past. Media members in the past looked at the Brickyard 400, Daytona 500, Coca Cola 600 and the Southern 500 as majors, not the all Star race. The stat if a driver wins an exhibition cup race is only something you can use if one cup driver is better than another cup driver. I am saying this as a person who isn't a Kyle Busch Fan. 459. 88&4Fan posted: 07.27.2015 - 8:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) 458, I think you need to read my comment more closely. The All Star race is one of many things that will keep him from being a first ballot Hall of Famer. I didn't even mention his inconsistency, peaking too early in the season, and temper issues that will probably hurt him too. The way you're saying that sounds like you think I said he won't get in at all because he hasn't won a freaking All Star race, which (a) is not what I was saying and (b) could change by the time he retires. 460. Cornys posted: 07.27.2015 - 8:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @457 American open wheel racing is recovering. TV rating for the last few races on NBCSN in 2011 was 0.1. The last three races all scored .4 or better on NBCSN (same network). That's an increase of 400% in 4 years. The 500 has seen huge jumps in attendance since the end of the great recession. TV ratings for the 500 have been holding stable. This year, that was good enough to have a better rating and more viewership than the World 600 at Charlotte in prime time. It's recovering :) 461. BMan0213 posted: 07.27.2015 - 8:22 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @460 I know it is recovering, but it's still no where near what it was pre split. That was my point, the split has did so much damage it still has a long way to go to get back to where it was. While the drop off in NASCAR wasn't as drastic, they are quickly approaching a point where they might not be able to fully recover similar to american Open Wheel Racing. 462. Eric posted: 07.27.2015 - 8:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @459, I actually rest of the reasons you mention. I pointed out the all star race because you shouldn't have even mention it a first place as one of the things Kyle needs to do. The way you typed the stuff he needs as stuff he needs to do in do to be inducted into the NASCAR Hall of Fame. My proof is the following you typed: "Now here are the facts: - No championships - No Daytona 500s - No All Star wins - No Coke 600s - No chase wins while in the chase Sure, that could change by the time he retires, and it most likely will, but if he were to retire RIGHT NOW, those stats right there would be enough to keep him out of the Hall of Fame for at least a few years (if Mark Martin didn't get in in his first opportunity, then neither is Busch)." 463. Driver X posted: 07.27.2015 - 8:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) In my mind, if NASCAR doesn't get rid of the chase, they should at the very least do the following: 1. Get rid of this bullshit "elimination after three races" rule. 2. Restore the old points system and have the top 10 drivers plus anyone within 500 points be eligible. Leader after 26 races gets 5000 pts, and goes down by 10 points each position. No points waivers. 3. Restore the old points system circa 2004-2010. 464. JG24FanForever posted: 07.27.2015 - 9:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Busch joins a select group of drivers to win 3 straight races over the past 25 seasons. 1991 Harry Gant won 4 in a row 1992 Bill Elliott won 4 in a row 1993 Mark Martin won 4 in a row 1993 Rusty Wallace won 3 in a row 1994 Rusty Wallace won 3 in a row 1996 Jeff Gordon won 3 in a row 1998 Jeff Gordon won 4 in a row 1998-99 Jeff Gordon won 3 in a row 2004 Jimmie Johnson won 3 in a row 2007 Jimmie Johnson won 4 in a row The only driver to win 5 in a row since the beginning of the modern era(1972)is David Pearson, who won 9 out of 10 starts in 1973, with streaks of 5 and 4 in a row. 465. Walter White posted: 07.27.2015 - 9:30 pm Rate this comment: (6) (0) I started watching NASCAR around 2000 or so. I was 7 years old. I was complaining about the drop of quality in the sport by like 03, and each year since, the sport has gotten worse and worse. The racing is dull, the Chase is a joke, the cars look like crap, even the paint jobs suck. Back in 2000, there were 30-40 guys who could race there way into the Top 10. The compitition had way more depth. The Busch series had it's own identity with drivers and teams exclusive to that series. The Trucks too. There were all sorts of regional series that were interesting. Now most of them are merged into " East" and "West". No, NASCAR is much like pro wrestling. Both reached a huge peak of popularity heading into the new millennium based off a huge wave of quality from the 80's and 90's, and both are irrelevant today. NASCAR has ruined itself by destroying it's identity and alienating it's fans. You can fix a lot of issues, but if you destroy your identity, if you lose your self, there's no going back. NASCAR is worse in evert single way then it was when I started watching. And frankly, it was subtly declining at that time as it was, the reasons for which people far smarter then myself can explain. 466. 88&4Fan posted: 07.27.2015 - 9:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I don't think they should do away with the chase entirely, but I agree, this elimination stuff needs to go. I think it should go back to how it was in 2004-2006. Only ten drivers, no wild cards, no bonus points for wins, and five point (with the new points system, probably one point) intervals between each driver at the start of the chase, that way the regular season does matter a little bit in case there is another Stewart/ Edwards situation. 467. Walter White posted: 07.27.2015 - 9:51 pm Rate this comment: (6) (0) The name of this race is evidence alone of NASCAR's decline. It's just a corporate circus. It always has been to an extent, but at least it had good racing and interesting personalities back in the day. Now it's just a ridiculous caricature of it's self. It's sad and pathetic. The Chase should not exist in any form. It does nothing but kill the sport's history. If anything the appeal of the sport was that it didn't have its most exciting moments at the end, it's marquee was at the very beginning- the Daytona 500. This was opposite of most spirts, and it was cool that NASCAR was just the way it was. When I heard prior to last year about the new playoff format, I about vomited. Now the points don't even mean anything at all. I hate what this sport has become, which is why I barely watch or comment. 468. Cornys posted: 07.27.2015 - 9:54 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @461 You're right. I agree with that, but I think that American open wheel racing has the ability to come back to what it once was over the next decade or so. I've said it before, what our society is becoming, or has become fits in with open wheel racing much better than Stock Car racing, sadly or fortunately, depending on which style you like more (I have no preference myself, aside from the officiating and leagues, which has nothing to do with that) I hope NASCAR changes something quickly, (they won't) because if they don't they may find themselves where CART and the IRL, and the IndyCar Series were back right beofre and just after the merger. IndyCar hit bottom the day that Dan Wheldon died. I don't know what NASCAR's bottom is going to be, but F1 is declining internationally. I feel like auto-racing is declining internationally, but I hope I'm wrong. Mismangament and greed are mostly to blame in all series. 469. Cornys posted: 07.27.2015 - 10:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Walter, what other series do you watch, if any? There are still good series which do contest the championship the way that NASCAR once did. There are still leagues with mostly the same feel. I felt lost when I heard about the changes, but actually, for me, they were the best changes. I found more racing, and I actually like it just as much if not more :) 470. Walter White posted: 07.27.2015 - 10:11 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Honestly, I really find myself liking the WEC for sports car racing. I love the battles between the many different varieties of vehicles and marques. How could you not love the story of good ol Porsche- the most successful Marque in all of auto racing restarting their own LMP1 program and beating their corporate stablemates Audi who have dominated Le Mans since the turn of the millennium? Not to mention that they leapfrogged Toyota who had won the championship last year? I honestly can say that for me, the WEC is where it's at lol 471. Cornys posted: 07.27.2015 - 11:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That's awesome, Walter. That's something that I've had a hard time finding actually. How to you watch it? 472. awesomegordonfan posted: 07.27.2015 - 11:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (3) Just here to say, 456, you COMPLETELY misinterpreted all the points you covered. ALL OF THEM. -I'm not saying your favorite baseball/basketball/hockey/football team is near you, but the closest one is probably within a couple hundred miles. -The EPL can't really be compared to NASCAR as far as "championships" go. -As a statistics student, you kinda do need a larger sample size than 50 with the fanbase NASCAR has. -The whole "true fans" thing? You literally said what I said. NASCAR isn't losing many true fans. Just the bandwagoners who became "fans" because of one driver or one race and don't actually enjoy watching it. 473. BMan0213 posted: 07.28.2015 - 12:18 am Rate this comment: (2) (0) Yawn... 472 I'm done with you. you're just like mister83 (and I honestly wouldn't be surprised if you were him) You can't be reasoned with. You act like everything you say is a fact when it's not. Pretty much everyone who has responded to you has dissed agreed with what you have said. Some people have even brought forth facts which you refuse to acknowledge. Like I said before, everything Neal said was true. You might think the sport is growing, but the statistics show it's not and if something doesn't change the sport will be a shell of what it is today. 474. ch posted: 07.28.2015 - 12:58 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsor Changes: 35 - Speed Stick 40 - Hillman Racing 55 - Aaron's Dream Machine 475. b4il3y posted: 07.28.2015 - 3:59 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) We have got a major 476. Doug posted: 07.28.2015 - 5:28 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Maybe "awesomegordonfan" is really a shill for Brian France. 477. racefangurl posted: 07.28.2015 - 12:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 465, I, too starting watching NASCAR at 7, I think. I remember liking sports, when I was 7,8 and that included car racing. 2000 was the last year I watched, as a kid because we didn't get FOX until we hooked our TVs to converter boxes in late 2010. I got back into NASCAR in 2011 because of FOX covering the first races of the season. I was disoriented by all the changes and the Daytona 500 that year seemed so weird to me, until the end. Then, I was shocked, speechless. That spring, I learned enough to be over my disorientation. It's hard for me to compare 2000 to 2011-now, because I was a casual fan as a kid. 478. ch posted: 07.28.2015 - 3:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsor Changes: 35 - Speed Stick (No gear logos) 40 - Hillman Smith Motorsports (Forgot about the name change) 479. Nascar Lead Lap Points posted: 07.28.2015 - 5:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #40 was correct with Precon Marine, it was on the QP for the race 480. Anonymouse posted: 07.28.2015 - 7:53 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Caution #1: Balloons backstretch 481. WinstonCupStandings posted: 07.29.2015 - 12:57 am Rate this comment: (0) (3) Top 25 (that are on the big teams) 1) Kevin Harvick (3164) -Leader 2) Joey Logano (2885) -279 3) Dale Earnhardt, Jr. (2774) -390 4) Jimmie Johnson (2768) -396 5) Brad Keselowski (2633) -531 6) Matt Kenseth (2555) -609 7) Jamie McMurray (2472) -692 8) Ryan Newman (2469) -695 9) Denny Hamlin (2468) -696 10) Kurt Busch (2453) -711 11) Jeff Gordon (2405) -759 12) Kasey Kahne (2337) -827 13) Paul Menard (2322) -842 14) Clint Bowyer (2268) -896 15) Carl Edwards (2223) -941 16) Aric Almirola (2151) -1013 17) Greg Biffle (2024) -1140 18) Austin Dillon (1991) -1173 19) Kyle Larson (1975) -1189 20) Danica Patrick (1927) -1237 21) Sam Hornish, Jr. (1781) -1383 22) Tony Stewart (1775) -1389 23) Ricky Stenhouse, Jr. (1771) -1393 24) Trevor Bayne (1722) -1442 25) Kyle Busch (1199) -1965 482. JRacingFast posted: 07.29.2015 - 11:28 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Anyone know who's going to be in the 62 and 98 this week?? 483. WinstonCupStandings posted: 07.29.2015 - 1:50 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I'm not a Kyle Busch fan, but damn. I'm happy for him. 484. racefangurl posted: 07.29.2015 - 2:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 483, it wasn't right without him even I agree with you on him, so I'm happy he's back. I guess I'm pretty much with you. Btw, hope it doesn't rain on NASCAR's parade too much at Pocono. Not that Pocono's actually a parade, but I'm no fan of rain on race day. 485. 88&4Fan posted: 07.29.2015 - 3:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 482, it will be Sorenson in the 62 and Hill in the 98 again. Hopefully since there are only 43 cars entered Reed can make up some points on the rest of the back markers (especially Hill). I hate seeing a guy so talented in the position he is in. 486. DB1995 posted: 07.29.2015 - 4:04 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) So Harvick, Keselowski, Dillon, and Kyle Busch in the truck race at Pocono. I'm gonna pass on this one. 487. MAR posted: 07.29.2015 - 4:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Cup drivers only won two truck races all season having 4 of them in this weeks race isnt bad besides the trucks series needs added competion. 488. dennyfan11 posted: 07.29.2015 - 6:44 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Poppin' in my 2 cents. The amount of lead lap cars HAS NOT increased just because of the lucky dog. In the 70's, more often than not, the leader was the only car on the lead lap. Even in the 80's, only around 5-7 cars were on the lead lap in many races. By 2000 or so, which was still a few years before the lucky dog, there were typically around 10-15 cars on the lead lap. The lucky dog has nothing to do with it. As for the talent pool, I don't think it's that thin now. Last year, there were 11 different winners in the first 12 races. Around 15-20 guys have done at least decently this year. 465, in 2000, there were FAR from 30-40 competitive guys. Saying people like Mike Bliss, Chad Little, and Brett Bodine were competitive is like saying that the moon landing was a hoax. And when a guy like BRETT MOFFIT can finish in the top 10, that's a good sign. For the chase, i hate the Chase too. I say it's way to gimmicky. I would actually PREFER someone clinching things up with 1 race left over manufactured excitement with tons of gimmickyness. Will NASCAR recover? Not sure. Ratings aren't dropping, mostly staying steady, which is a good sign, and far better than the late 2000s where ratings were dropping like a rock. However, it's still in FAR better shape than Indycar, whose prime event is now well behind Daytona. /Rant. 489. Chives5150 posted: 07.29.2015 - 6:50 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) NASCAR is sticking to it's guns with the high downforce package at Michigan. Don't expect small changes or any at all with the package. I don't really blame them for sticking with it. You can't keep changing crap with only a weeks or two notice. More data is still needed to see if it will be even remotely successful. I wouldn't pay too much attention to Indianapolis, seeing as it's one of the most unique tracks on the schedule. I don't believe any package will be able to truly conquer that track. There was no way they could achieve pack racing at Indianapolis, seeing as you have to actually slow down in order to make those 90 degree corners. I suspect Michigan will give us more definitive answers. 490. 88&4Fan posted: 07.29.2015 - 8:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I take back comment 485. Looks like Jay switched the 62 and 98. 491. racefangurl posted: 07.30.2015 - 8:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Darlington is way different from Kentucky, and so are Indy and Michigan quite different from each other. Michigan is the same size as Fontana, if I remember right, so it's a little shorter than Indy. I imagine Michigan's racing won't be just like Indy's and by the same token, Darlington racing will be quite different compared to Kentucky's. 492. numbah10hatah posted: 07.31.2015 - 4:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #32 sponsor: Brandeis Machinery (misspelling) 493. Accutech posted: 10.03.2015 - 6:06 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsor update: #15 Great Tasting 5-Hour Energy/Peak Antifreeze & Coolant 494. Maverick11 posted: 04.11.2016 - 1:02 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) The only time Rocketman started dead last. 495. Braindead Zombie posted: 07.30.2016 - 7:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Just reading through these comments and noticed #283... absolutely no idea why I posted that or what possible reason I would have for posting that. I know I posted a lot of stuff on here in the beginning that I'm not entirely proud of (to say the least) but still, that was way out of line. 496. Windows Millennium Edition posted: 09.15.2016 - 7:21 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Sponsor updates: #42 Target/Cottonelle/Clorox #48 Lowe's/Kobalt Tools #15 Great Tasting 5-Hour Energy/Peak Antifreeze & Coolant #55 Aaron's.com "Now Lease Online!" #14 Mobil 1/Bass Pro Shops/Tracker Boats #62 Premium Motorsports #32 Brandeis Machinery/Komatsu/Takeuchi 497. Anonymous posted: 03.26.2020 - 12:46 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Chase Elliot's first Cup lead lap run this race. 498. Rich posted: 12.05.2020 - 8:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Rick Allen, Jeff Burton and Steve Letarte were the commentators. Mike Massaro, Dave Burns, Marty Snider and Kelli Stavast were the pit road reporters. 499. Rich posted: 12.30.2020 - 7:47 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) The pre and post race show host was Krista Voda along with Dale Jarrett and Kyle Petty. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Post a comment:* Your comment may not appear immediately - all comments must be approved by the moderator. Name: Comment: