|| *Comments on the 2015 MyAFibRisk.com 400:* First Page | Previous Page | Next Page | Last Page | View All On One Page View the most recent comment | Post a comment <#post> 1. MAR posted: 09.18.2015 - 7:19 pm Rate this comment: (7) (1) So the 9th fastest driver in practice misses the race great the driver that was over 2 seconds off the pace makes it great despite the #21 being higher than the #62 in owners points great once again NASCAR's broken qualifying system strikes again. 2. We need more Onion posted: 09.18.2015 - 7:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Although I'm happy with Wise making the race, both "Premium" cars being in the race over Blaney and McDowell... Damn' 3. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.18.2015 - 7:47 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) I know it will never happen, but I wish NASCAR would go back to the old points for one season. Clint Bowyer being equal to Kevin Harvick in points is the equivalent of Mario sending a blue shell to Luigi in Mario Kart. 4. NASCARLover22 posted: 09.18.2015 - 7:49 pm Rate this comment: (4) (6) Jay Robinson is the literal definition of Satan on Earth. 5. joey2448 posted: 09.18.2015 - 8:11 pm Rate this comment: (2) (2) Clint Bowyer isn't on equal standing with Harvick in points. He is six points behind Harvick, due to Harvick owning two wins to Bowyer's zero this year, which translates to six bonus points. Also, NASCARLover22, you really hate Jay Robinson THAT much?? Wow. 6. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.18.2015 - 8:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) I know about the bonus points, I just find it ludicrous that everyone is basically equal. 7. that e-guy posted: 09.18.2015 - 8:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) They only put in driver's based off attempts. The #62 has attempted more races than the #21 and #95. It's still really stupid. 8. NASCARLover22 posted: 09.18.2015 - 8:27 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) I wish NASCAR could just listen to the fans for once and have the field set by owner points, so guys like McDowell and Blaney don't get sent home everytime there's a qualifying rainout. Because having someone 9th in the first practice miss the race is total bullcrap. 9. NASCARLover22 posted: 09.18.2015 - 8:34 pm Rate this comment: (1) (2) Oops, I guess I took things a little too far again. Perhaps I should rephrase that: "Jay Robinson is the literal definition of if Satan ran a NASCAR team". Anyway, I don't hate Jay Robinson himself, he's a really nice guy. I just hate his way of managing a stock car team. 10. 88&4Fan posted: 09.18.2015 - 8:36 pm Rate this comment: (1) (2) Timmah Hill hacks his way into another race. And even worse, the two drivers who missed the truck race were both full distance teams with decent drivers, while drivers who will finish 10 laps down or parked such as Benning, JJC, Roark, Forrister, McLeod, the second MAKE truck, and the second Mittler truck. 11. 02Justin10 posted: 09.18.2015 - 8:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) So, Premium Motorsports gets two cars in the race...how Premium. *rolls eyes.* Those two cars in the race will really add to the electricity and excitement of the event. 12. Matt L posted: 09.18.2015 - 8:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) When NASCAR changed the qualifying rainout rules a few years ago, I originally thought the intent of lining up by practice speeds was to get teams that were fast but low in the points in the race. Instead, it sends home the same teams and just makes the starting grid more jumbled and confusing. 13. 1995z71 posted: 09.18.2015 - 8:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) AGAIN the Wood Bros & Blaney miss the race due to NASCAR's stupid qualifying rules, not watching this race. 14. 28DaveyAllison28 posted: 09.18.2015 - 9:18 pm Rate this comment: (3) (5) Remind me NOT to watch this race! If NASCAR doesn't put a premium on qualifying to make sure the quality teams actually get in, why the hell do I give a damn to watch stupid event if its not that important enough to NA$CAR to get qualifying in? After all these preparation, money spent, they can't find 50 minutes to get qualifying in over the entire weekend for the 9th time this season? They have the entire weekend, reschedule it!! Once again, F--- Brain Franc's stupid world of NA$CAR!!!! 15. 02Justin10 posted: 09.18.2015 - 9:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #14, -They don't even need 50 minutes...they could just revise the format and do 1 round of qualifying (30 minutes) for all positions. It wouldn't be that hard. 16. racefangurl posted: 09.18.2015 - 9:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (3) 13, how come they never missed a race due to rain from 2011-2014 (didn't watch 2001-2010, so I can't say if they had a rain DNQ then), but now when they're no longer a Roush ally, it rains on their parade? NASCAR should use practice speed or owner points alone and not mess with attempts. 17. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.18.2015 - 10:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Doesn't put a premium on qualifying" Hehe... 18. David posted: 09.18.2015 - 10:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) "Jay Robinson is the literal definition of if Satan ran a NASCAR team". Not Satan. More like Lloyd Christmas. 19. SlicedSmoke14 posted: 09.18.2015 - 10:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Just noticed something, and I don't think this is a good thing, but it seems like the 62 team can only make races if qualifying is rained out or there are only 43 entries for a race. 20. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.18.2015 - 11:00 pm Rate this comment: (1) (3) I have an idea. We have qualifying. Everyone does 2 laps. Whoever has the fastest 43 times get in. Everyone else goes home. Do you think I should send this proposal to NASCAR? 21. Anonymous posted: 09.18.2015 - 11:06 pm Rate this comment: (1) (5) You people are way out of control making fun of people on this site. I saw on the Richmond comments some of you made fun of a person with autism. That is just plain wrong and with all the thumbs down this site is not for posting about a race but it is for bullying people. It must be easy to put people down on the internet but I wonder if you would do it in real life. If you are going to say I don't have the guts to use my real name, well I will. I am Justin Bailey and I live in West Virginia. This bullying needs to stop now. 22. racefangurl posted: 09.18.2015 - 11:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (5) 21, you mean the ones that told me to stop posting and didn't like my corny jokes? Last year, I was made fun of, so it's not new. 23. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.18.2015 - 11:17 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) @21 This site has had trolls for a long time. People consistently thumb down comments just for the fun of it. Now I don't know who is doing this but I for one would never make fun of someone for a disability or for no reason. I think the best solution is to get rid of the dislikes but keep the likes. People can express what they agree on, but they can also keep their negative attitudes towards themselves. 24. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.18.2015 - 11:29 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) But seriously, I think Justin's post speaks volumes about the forums today. Thank you for coming on and giving a voice of reason this site needs. This community is like family. We don't know each other, we don't know where we are from and we don't even know our names. But we are like family. We are bonded by this site to express our true passion: racing. And this isn't the place where we should get angry at each other. This is where we should bond, debate, and have fun through our experiences. The last thing that should happen on this site is bullying. There's too much of that in the real world. And racefangurl, keep posting. We don't want to lose any more people off this site like we have recently. 25. Schroeder51 posted: 09.18.2015 - 11:30 pm Rate this comment: (1) (3) #21 I get the feeling I am one of the people you are talking about since I told racefangurl I found her sense of humor to be in bad taste. For the record, I have Asperger's myself, and I want to say I NEVER mocked her for being autistic or anything, all I did was tell her jokes were groan-worthy and that I wished she'd stop. If that is bullying someone, than I don't know what to say. I would rather say how I honestly feel about her jokes than lie and tell her I think they're amazing... For the record, I am with Big Mac Fan here, I really wish this whole like/dislike system would go away, and honestly, I think it has significantly contributed to the decline in the quality of the comments sections on here. It just BEGS to be spammed to death, and it has definitely led to some angry, nasty comments and upset feelings. Unfortunately I don't foresee the likes/dislikes going away anytime soon (if ever)... 26. Schroeder51 posted: 09.18.2015 - 11:41 pm Rate this comment: (1) (2) And I will say, perhaps I could have been more tactful and polite in expressing my dislike of racefangurl's jokes, in hindsight. I have teased her a bit for some of more of her oddball tendencies (like how she was so drastically against Chase Elliott winning the Xfinity title and kept seeing his chances of beating Regan Smith were just pie in the sky) in the past, but I do not harbor any ill will towards her and I would like to say I'm sorry if I have hurt her feelings... #24 My sentiments exactly...honestly, there have been plenty of moments and comments on this site in the past few years that have made me wonder why I even bother posting here. It's a shame people here have so much trouble getting along...I would hate to see this site devolve to the point where I regard it the same way as I do NASCAR.com or Youtube comments...a place to avoid at all costs due to too much irrationality or mean-spiritedness...But I get the feeling these comments sections are eventually going to end up like that... 27. 23andJoe posted: 09.19.2015 - 5:43 am Rate this comment: (6) (0) A "thumbs down" on an Internet comment board is a minor, trivial, utterly /meaningless/ thing. Getting /actually upset/ over it is, quite frankly, a sign you have bigger issues. 28. Premium Doesn't Suck 62 66 98 posted: 09.19.2015 - 6:50 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) I find it really sad that in the last 10 races, JEB BURTON (has DNQ'd 2 of the last 10) has completed more laps than Michael Annett. HScott, you're outta here. 29. MarkMartinFan posted: 09.19.2015 - 7:09 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @23, if you think some of the people that post on here will ever keep their negative opinions to themselves, you are sadly mistaken. Trolls are only here to run off people that want to have intelligent insight into the racing. They complain about the racing being terrible but end up watching the next week anyways. They seem to have forgotten how to use the channel changing portion of the remote control to their televisions. 30. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.19.2015 - 8:38 am Rate this comment: (0) (2) I know it's been said before, but NASCAR is singlehandedly going to run the Wood Brothers our of business. 31. Dumb Question posted: 09.19.2015 - 9:20 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) Since NASCAR uses practice speeds when qualifying is rained out, why not post it as a pole speed and give the driver the award since they are getting it for being the "fastest," and the provisional rules are applied as if qualifying had occurred. 32. MAR posted: 09.19.2015 - 9:41 am Rate this comment: (2) (0) NASCAR should tell the teams next year the first practice sessions of each race weekend would be used as basically a pre qualifying round meaning if qualifying gets rained out the top 36 practice speeds despite how many attempts you have are in the provisional 37-42 will consist of owners points and 43 past champion if there's no past champion the next highest team in owner points gets in. Just a simple proposal to that idiot Brian France. 33. dennyfan11 posted: 09.19.2015 - 9:47 am Rate this comment: (1) (1) Big news. Apparently, Go FAS Racing will have Jeffery Earnhardt running for Rookie of the year, with him running all races but the restrictor plate races, run by Bobby Labonte. 34. Tyson posted: 09.19.2015 - 10:00 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @33 - not all but the plate races. It's looking like somewhere between 20 and 23 races at this point. 35. MAR posted: 09.19.2015 - 11:57 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) Good for Jeffrey Earnhardt good for Go Gas Racing and they signed sponsor CanAm who does off road ATV's and other off road stuff hopefully the performance of the team picks up just wish they drop Ford and go to Chevy. Nice to see a small team hopefully make a step in the right direction. 36. BMan0213 posted: 09.19.2015 - 12:51 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Sounds like CanAm is also taking over the sponsorship for the Duels at Daytona. Nice to see a company get involved in the sport like they are currently doing. 37. Premium Doesn't Suck 62 66 94 98 posted: 09.19.2015 - 12:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Good move for Go FAS to actually have a full time driver in the car next year. The way drivers have been hopping in and out of that ride the last couple years has killed any momentum that the team had going for it. 38. 1995 Subaru WRX STi posted: 09.19.2015 - 1:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'll piggy back off of Schroeder51. Making fun of people for their issues is wrong. Much like some are using Brian France drug and drinking problems against him. We do not have too like the man but at least give him the respect as a human being. I see more and more "fans" using that when saying nasty things about him. I'm sure most of know people who have those problems and it is hard too watch someone slowly do themselves in. I do not like him either but i'd never wish harm on him or make fun of his issues. In regards too this site, many of the people i used too see here are gone. Something is up, only Schroeder and 23andJoe i see are here. Sorry too the rest of you but i do not know you well enough. I stopped posting here for obvious reasons. 39. racefangurl posted: 09.19.2015 - 1:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Schroeder 51, I haven't always been tactful in expressing what I think. Last year, I just became irrationally emotional about the JR Motorsports drivers. When it comes to my likes and dislikes about all things NASCAR (and anything else), I'm passionate, if I don't control myself. This year, I'm trying not to get carried away. Penske seems to be the best shot to have a non-Toyota champion. Penske and Gibbs are right up there with the Hendrick engine teams (Hendrick and the strong SHR cars) as potential champions. 40. 88&4Fan posted: 09.19.2015 - 1:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) "I find it really sad that in the last 10 races, JEB BURTON (has DNQ'd 2 of the last 10) has completed more laps than Michael Annett." A lot of that can be attributed to the fact that Annett's transmission (?) gave up on lap 1 out of 500 at Bristol. And then Jeb wrecked Annett at Richmond. 41. Spen posted: 09.19.2015 - 5:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Subaru: I'm still here! And there are a few other old-timers still floating around. 42. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.19.2015 - 5:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @37 Actually Earnhardt won't be full time. They still have Labonte doing the plate tracks and they might have a RC ringer. But other then that, yes he drives full time. 43. 88&4Fan posted: 09.19.2015 - 5:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Well, from the comments sections that I go back and read sometimes from the 2013 races (that seems to be when the comments were most active and entertaining) the only people I recognize are Schroeder, Long Shot, Onion (though I haven't seen him in a while), Joe, and Hinch who now only posts in the fantasy picks. 44. 88&4Fan posted: 09.19.2015 - 6:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) I would say that Boris would be running the road courses but the rumor says he could retire. 45. MAR posted: 09.19.2015 - 8:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jeff Gordon will tie Ricky Rudd's all time consecutive starts streak this weekend this to me is by far Gordon's most under rated accomplishment. 46. Schroeder51 posted: 09.19.2015 - 9:38 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) While it's nice to see Jeffrey get a shot at Cup, considering he's driving for the #32 team (one of the weakest full time teams out there, on par with and sometimes even worse than BK Racing) and his relative lack of experience in Cup, I kind of anticipate his rookie season next year looking a LOT like Jeb Burton's has thus far this year: a bunch of sub-30th place finishes and missed races. If it's going to be between him and Chase Elliott for RotY next year (perhaps Blaney if he runs full time next year?), it's incredibly obvious that Chase is going to curb-stomp Jeffrey in that battle. Still, I suppose it's better to get experience in a crummy car than be sitting on the sidelines waiting for a good ride to open up that never comes... "A lot of that can be attributed to the fact that Annett's transmission (?) gave up on lap 1 out of 500 at Bristol. And then Jeb wrecked Annett at Richmond." I think he broke something in the motor coming up to speed at the initial green flag. It's not every day in the Cup Series you actually see a driver complete no laps at all in a race...Having said that, his last three races alone have been COMPLETELY horrible. 47. racefangurl posted: 09.19.2015 - 10:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 46, Chase and Ryan would be quite a fight. That would be quite an interesting ROTY to watch. Jeffrey would be 3rd, but Ryan and Chase are hard to call. Penske and Hendrick are both good teams and neither driver is that bad. 48. MAR posted: 09.19.2015 - 11:05 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) 2016 Sprint Cup Rookie Class Chase Elliot (confirmed) #24 Jeffrey Earnhardt (confirmed) part time #32 Ryan Blaney possibly #12,#21 or both Chris Buescher #6?,#17,#34 possibly Brian Scott??? Ty Dillon??? Maybe Ross Chastain, John Wes Townley, low budget teams????? Could be a pretty cool rookie class. 49. Tyson posted: 09.19.2015 - 11:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @48 - it'll be Elliott, Blaney, Earnhardt, and maybe Scott. Doubt any others. 50. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 12:26 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "2016 Rookie Class" Anyone want to try 2017? Here is what I think: Erik Jones- Replaces Hamlin in the 11, Hamlin possibly goes to Hendrick. Ty Dilon- Drives the 33 full time. Chris Buescher- Replaces Stenhouse in the 17 Ryan Blaney- 12 full time. Some one from a lower level Nationwide team gets hired by a Cup field filler. Either way I think we should be stoked for the upcoming rookie classes. 51. Pucci Man posted: 09.20.2015 - 12:35 am Rate this comment: (0) (2) I got a feeling that tomorrow's race will be the same as the truck & Xfinity race, lack of cautions & fuel mileage to decide the winner. Let's hope the Chase isn't going to have these kind of races. 52. Mike posted: 09.20.2015 - 12:53 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) @48-49: Jack Roush has said that if he can put together the sponsorship, he'll bring back the #99 for Chris Buescher next year. He doesn't seem to be having any issues finding Cup sponsors, and Buescher hasn't run nearly as many races blank (or with Roush Performance on the car) as he was early this year, so it wouldn't shock me if things came together. 53. BMan0213 posted: 09.20.2015 - 1:00 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) "I got a feeling that tomorrow's race will be the same as the truck & Xfinity race, lack of cautions & fuel mileage to decide the winner. Let's hope the Chase isn't going to have these kind of races." Much rather have all 10 races in the chase like that than NASCAR throwing a yellow for air on the track to manufacturer an "exciting" finish..... 54. Tyson posted: 09.20.2015 - 1:28 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) @51 - I just don't want to see Chris make the jump to Cup right yet. Despite him leading NXS points, I don't think he's quite ready for full-time Cup. Let him develop for another year. Plus, Roush obviously isn't where they need to be in Cup right now. Adding a young rookie probably won't help them solve their competition problems. 55. BON GORDON posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:34 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) I'm also still here. I don't comment much anymore, I never really did. I like to read the comments every now and again. I just don't have the time some folks do. Regarding the race I think Jeff Gordon will have a superb run today. I just got that feeling. Pretty cool to see him tie the great Ricky Rudd with 788 consecutive starts. Very great achievement. 56. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 7:22 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) I obviously didn't see comment #2 before I posted #43... never mind. 57. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 10:55 am Rate this comment: (0) (2) @38 Murb posts on here occasionally so not everyone has left. I've also seen a DSFF comment dated in August. 58. Eric posted: 09.20.2015 - 12:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @38, I have been using the name Eric on this site since 2010 and I am one of the older posts in time of stay here. I really haven't stopped posting although it is likely that I will be taking a break here once the season is over. The only thing is once other posters do use the name once in a while also due to it being a common name. 59. John Royal posted: 09.20.2015 - 12:47 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Matt Kenseth will win today. 60. Vince posted: 09.20.2015 - 12:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Actually, even if he go full-time next yeat, I don't think Blaney would be eligible for Rookie of the Year (like Bayne this season), he probably already have too many Cup starts 61. Nathan8848 posted: 09.20.2015 - 2:48 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Jr. is driving the Dew car. There is always next week. 62. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) And here's your obligatory Blake Shelton song sequence. 63. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ^Wonder how many Blake Shelton fans there actually are here... Me personally, I can live with the song but I am definitely not much of a country music fan (well, at least when it comes to modern country...) 64. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It's 'The Logo'! 65. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Jr. Is driving the Dew car. There is always next week," What's even worse than that is Brad Keselowski's Alliance Truck Parts scheme. Besides a 3rd place at Phoenix, Brad has either a crash or a mechanical failure in EVERY race he ran that scheme in 2014. 66. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) I'll be switching back and forth between the race comments and CBSsports live fantasy football scoring for today... go 'Skins! 67. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) "Much rather have all 10 races in the chase like that than NASCAR throwing a yellow for air on the track to manufacturer an "exciting" finish....." How much do you want to bet at least 7 out of the 10 Chase races end in exactly this way? Seeing as it's Chase time and NASCAR is all about excitement at every turn and corner, I expect our infamous French friend will be putting in some SERIOUS overtime these next ten weeks... 68. MAR posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Probably won't post as much today my Dolphins are playing at 4 NFL first lol. 69. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick pulls ahead going into turn 3 and will lead lap 1. 70. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Well I got my Skins on but I also have my fantasy team so I'll still be multitasking even after that game is over. 71. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) No yellow numbers this year I see... good, those were fugly. 72. Nathan8848 posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Denny and Allmendinger spin in turn 4. No damage for either car. 73. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Allmendinger and Hamlin spin way back in the pack and bring out caution #1. 74. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) AJ spins between 3 and 4 and gets it together. Then Denny spins a few rows behind him. 75. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) What a save by the Dinger! 76. racefangurl posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 58, I remember Eric and Eric T. The latter said "my last name starts with a T". 54, Roush has geometry/handling issues and the drivers have said they're behind in the simulation. Put a rookie in a terrible handling car and he's gonna hit the wall. I remember a few years ago, a driver with a yellow stripe hit the wall twice at Fontana and they said his car was tight that day. 77. Smiff_2 posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) CRAZY save by Allmendinger 78. Lucstar88 posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Denny gets into the 47, and AJ saves it while Denny gets karma and spins! 79. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) No yellow numbers this year I see... good, those were fugly. Which means the 43 got to keep theirs from last year. 80. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin opted not to pit and thus is going to lose a lap. But considering how early in the race this is and how easy it is to get laps back (with BOTH the lucky dog and wavearound), this probably isn't going to mean much... 81. Stewart14rocks posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hell he got lucky he didn't get hit by anybody there 82. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:26 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Great restart by Truex! 83. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:26 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Truex goes three-wide on the restart for the lead as Austin Dillon now goes side by side with Harvick to take second place. 84. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) 4 WIDE in the tri-oval. 85. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Austin Dillon is in 2nd. Unlike Michigan, there is no clean air advantage for running there. 86. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Cowboy Hat tries to take the lead from Truex, but falls back and loses second to Harvick. 87. Stewart14rocks posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:32 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Dillon might have a good run today 88. Nathan8848 posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:33 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) Dislike spammer has arrived. 89. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:33 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Truex, Harvick, and Dillon are all within half a second of each other for the lead. 90. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (3) So the chase just started and now we're seeing good racing up front and the Gibbs cars sinking back into mediocrity. How funny. 91. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) I think almost every single comment has a thumbs down. 92. Anonymous posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:36 pm Rate this comment: (2) (3) #25 The butthurt is strong with this one. People are not going to like everything you comment. If you can't handle the fact that people don't agree with everything you say, than you need to leave the Internet ASAP. And good luck handling the real world! 93. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:37 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Says the person with the username Anonymous... 94. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Great to see the #3 running up front like the old days. 95. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) "So the chase just started and now we're seeing good racing up front and the Gibbs cars sinking back into mediocrity. How funny." ...except the fact that Kyle is now threatening for the lead. Why do I get the feeling that Gibbs is going to put everything into the #18 during the Chase? 96. Nathan8848 posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Busch will take the lead shortly 97. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "So the chase just started and now we're seeing good racing up front and the Gibbs cars sinking back into mediocrity. How funny." You jinxed it. Ky just got 2nd from Harvick and is inching towards Truex for the lead. 98. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Well when I made that comment he was fifth. Oh, and #92, I think YOU need to get off the internet. Besides, its obvious that you are the thumbs down troll, since yours was the only comment on this page without a thumbs down until I gave it one. 99. Nathan8848 posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hornish fell to last. What happened? 100. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Hornish is in the garage... but why should NBC mention that? 101. dennyfan11 posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Great racing up front! 102. 02Justin10 posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:41 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Truex is impressing me today. Considering them being a single car team. 103. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:42 pm Rate this comment: (1) (3) TOUCHDOWN REDSKINS! 104. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:42 pm Rate this comment: (1) (2) Oops, sorry wrong chat room lol 105. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Paying attention to the small teams/back markers like they did in the first few races of their coverage has fallen to the wayside. 106. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Hornish is in the garage... but why should NBC mention that?" He's not in the Chase, therefore it isn't as important if something happens to him. Sad, but true. Kyle seriously seems to be the only Gibbs car competitive today... 107. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Like or hate the chase, you have to admit it probably produces better racing because people actually need to win to advance. 108. Nathan8848 posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Dillon has fallen to 6th. 109. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Dillon is fading back on the long run, he has dropped out of the top 5. 110. racefangurl posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Trevor Bayne, Landon Cassill, Cole Whitt and Alex Bowman are running near each other. The terrible equipment brigade. 111. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:45 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @110 Terrible equipment yes, but Roush is far superior to the rest of those teams. 112. BMan0213 posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) So far other than Kyle it looks people are having trouble passing. If you just keep the car on the high side its very hard for anyone to get around you. Probably a product of the lower HP. As much as I like the low downforce package I think I rather see NASCAR give the teams back the HP they took away. Off course I'd rather see NASCAR do both things for next year at best it will be one or the other. They never do anything right... 113. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:46 pm Rate this comment: (1) (2) And the weekly Trevor Bayne excuses show has officially begun. 114. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:47 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Kyle Busch finally takes the lead on the low side, but Truex tries to make a comeback. 115. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:47 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) RCR is impressive so far. All four cars in the top 20. 116. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle leads, but all 3 other JGR cars are outside the top-15. Ouch. 117. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And now Kyle is beginning to pull away. 118. Christian posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Not impressed with Kyle's run after his team was caught cheating in the Xfinity race yesterday. 119. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick is the first to come to pit road. 120. racefangurl posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) 111, T-Bayne is now 24th, the highest running driver of the TEB. 121. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wow, half the field is already a lap down. Harvick pits a couple laps early. 122. Nathan8848 posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Green flag pitstops. 123. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Edwards too fast on pit road. 124. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Speeding penalty for Edwards. 125. Nathan8848 posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Edwards too fast. 126. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Carl gets a pit road penalty. 127. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:51 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Again, Roush equipment is nowhere near BK Racing. Carl gets a speeding penalty. 128. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) After green flag stops, Kyle now has a near two-second lead over Harvick, and is pulling away. 129. 02Justin10 posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think Harvick will close the gap. 130. BMan0213 posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Like or hate the chase, you have to admit it probably produces better racing because people actually need to win to advance." To quote what Kyle say when they announced this format last year "If you really think this format will promote winning more you're an idiot, we all want to win changing the format won't make anyone want to win more." For the most part I agree with him. The racing isn't better because of the Chase most of the time its worse because even with the win and you advance format people still points race. Drivers just become more desperate if they are 100% sure they need to win and make dumb moves, and like 90% the time these moves are made because NASCAR throws as BS yellow near the end. Look at the Texas race last year yeah the Bowyer yellow the set up the Jeff and Brad incident was real but there where like 5 BS debris yellows before that that helped set up the situation that happened 131. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kahne gets lapped. 132. racefangurl posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 129, Harvick has a Hendrick engine, so probably will happen. 133. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) HTTR! Did Sorenson seriously do a S&P? 134. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bowyer, Edwards, and Hamlin are the Chase drivers off the lead lap currently. Menard isn't far from losing a lap as well. 135. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 3:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @130 The only reason I said that was because we had a 4 way battle for the lead. But yeah, I pretty much agree with Kyle. 136. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Did Sorenson do a S&P?" How will Premium Doesn't Suck 62 66 94 98 react to this? 137. Nathan8848 posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Half the field is lapped. 138. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:00 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I'd like to see the time gaps and who's next to get lapped rather than points just 70 laps into the 1st of 3 races. 139. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Hornish with another unscheduled pit stop 140. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wow, Paul Menard has 0 top tens on Intermediates. RCR's HP must be quite off. 141. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Did Sorenson seriously do a S&P?" No, he's just that slow. I can easily see him and Hill getting lapped a dozen times or more over the course of the race... 142. Tyson posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @140 - no not really. Austin Dillon ended up third at Michigan after leading nearly 20 laps and was in the top-5 all race long. 143. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Only 15 cars on the lead lap. 144. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sheesh, Kyle is getting ready to start lapping into the top 15 and is less than half a lap from lapping into the top 10. 145. Stewart14rocks posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Long green flag run only 16 cars on ll 146. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The 41 of pit road is on pit road! 147. Stewart14rocks posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Don't know why Kurt pitted he was in the top 5 148. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @147 Flat tire. 149. Stewart14rocks posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Nvm he had a right rear going down 150. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Wise has the Craven throwback for this race because he DNQ'd Darlington. Thats kinda nice. 151. Stewart14rocks posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @150 ikr 152. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:12 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Nearly 100 laps of green flag racing since the first yellow. I'm impressed. Of course I've probably just jinxed things and we're going to see a "debris" caution soon... 153. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) I feel like we're about to have a Jacques sighting. 154. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle is now nearly 3 seconds out front and there are now just 12 cars on the lead lap. 155. RaceFanX posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The #32 has a modified version of the Tide throwback colors. It kept the orange paint and Craven's number style but it eliminated the white and yellow sections at the back, instead opting for a solid orange car. Still great to see them run a variant of it. 156. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gordon is 5th. It took 27 races, but he's finally showing speed this year. 157. Nathan8848 posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 11 cars on the lead lap. 158. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) LOL. Hendrick 5th, 6th, 7th, and... 21st. 159. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Maybe Jacques went to see the Cubs or Bears. 160. Stewart14rocks posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) More green flag pit stops 161. Nathan8848 posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Man, I thought that was a caution. The way NBCSN resumed. 162. Stewart14rocks posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:19 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Not usual we get long 100+ green flag runs at 1.5 mile tracks at least this season 163. Nathan8848 posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Where is the weekly Roush / Allgaier / BK spin? 164. racefangurl posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:20 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) The Roush drivers were all together recently. When I first started typing this actually. 165. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:21 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) 100+ consecutive laps of green flag racing. 166. JG24Ever posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:22 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Gordon to 4th! Yeus :D 167. Nathan8848 posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:23 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Edwards again with problems. 168. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Carl Edwards has yet to pit as he's gambling on a caution to keep him on the lead lap. 169. Nathan8848 posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:28 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) Busch is running double duty the rest of the year. God f**king damn it!! 170. Jacques posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:28 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) !Hola! 171. Jacques posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:28 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) Konichiwa! 172. Nathan8848 posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Caution debris. 173. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bears game is over, caution for 'debris'. 174. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Jacques makes his first appearance of the Chase. Just 13 cars were on the lead lap, and there will be 14 on the restart (at least) with Larson getting the free pass. 175. Jacques posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Bonjour! 176. Safety Worker posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:30 pm Rate this comment: (4) (2) *bends over to pick up air* 177. Nathan8848 posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Almost everyone is taking the wave-around. 178. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) A bit late to the party there 175 179. Driver X posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Ah, I see we have our weekly Yellow For No Reason. Guess the race isn't allowed to play out naturally come playoff time. 180. MAR posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Looks like Kyle Busch is having a great day today. But I can't believe the Jaguars are beating my Dolphins right now. 181. Stewart14rocks posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick to the lead11 182. Nathan8848 posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) He's back Jimmie is here! 183. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Harvick to the lead on the restart. And here's Jimmie after being invisible the last two months. 184. Stewart14rocks posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:38 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Dillon has a tirr go down and into the wall 185. Nathan8848 posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Lucky break for the wave-around cars. 186. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:38 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Harvick gets the lead on the restart as Johnson joins the battle for the lead. And Dillon blows a tire and slams the wall hard. Big break for everyone who took the wave around... 187. Jacques posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:38 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Caution. Austin Dillon hits the wall. Now McMurray and Menard can get their lap back. 188. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:38 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Cowboy blows a right front. Now there's a ton of cars back on the lead lap. 189. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:38 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Goddammit why is it every time Dillon runs well something bad happens to him? 190. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) So I guess everyone who thought Jimmie was just playing possum during the summer was right... what a shock. 191. Stewart14rocks posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Horrible luck for dillon 192. Gibbs is Gawd posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:40 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I sure hope all these cautions have gotten all the Gibbs cars back on the lead lap! 193. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) More pit stops. Sucks for Dillon. Probably his 2nd best run all year. 194. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) "Cowboy blows a right front. Now there's a ton of cars back on the lead lap." Hasn't this been said before? As long as you've got a decent car, getting a lap down early is not a big deal because there are SO many ways to get back on the lead lap now. It's only a big problem when it happens WAY late in the race when you have no chance to gain any ground back... Truex and some cars towards the back of the lead lap pit. 195. Stewart14rocks posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Keselowsko had a loose wheel and probably the same for truex 196. Nathan8848 posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick has a tire rub caused by Johnson. 197. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Dos Jotas just gave Harvick a fender rub. 198. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick is smoking. Will he pit? Gordon in 2nd. Imagine if Jeff wins this. 199. 28DaveyAllison28 posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Jimmie Johnson is driving, side swapping Harvick like its 1979 Daytona 500 200. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Harvick with a tire rub. He needs to pit. 201. Nathan8848 posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jr. lost 6 spots because of that skirmish. 202. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:46 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Harvick crashes! No! 203. Nathan8848 posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:46 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Happy Harvick not so Happy anymore. 204. dennyfan11 posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:46 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) And Harvick wrecks! 205. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:46 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Harvick crashes into the turn 3 wall. 206. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:46 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Harvick goes around and into the wall! Oh man, this is gonna hurt his chances of making it to Round 2... 207. RaceFanX posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:47 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Kevin Harvick crashes! The defending champion is down! 208. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Jimmie in the wall. KARMA!!!... And now Harvick spins. Screw you Jimmie. 209. BMan0213 posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:47 pm Rate this comment: (6) (2) If i'm Harvick I get back out there and dump the 48. No reason for Jimmie to make that move just past half way. 210. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) You should've pitted Harv... 211. Sean posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) If NASCAR hadn't decided to manipulate the race, Edwards and Hamlin wouldn't have made up that undeserved lap after they were both nearly two laps down and that incident wouldn't have happened... But what on earth was Harvick's team doing not pitting? They probably wouldn't have lost a lap and even if they did would have gotten the next lucky dog... 212. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) It's crazy to think Harvick could lead the points all year and then promptly fail to make it past Round 1 of the Chase, but right now, there is a very strong possibility of that happening... 213. Nathan8848 posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) 2 things, 1- Logano pushed Johnson below down low. 2- Harvick didn't let back in the line. 214. racefangurl posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) 198, Gordon won't win because he's not a JGR driver. 215. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) He'll make round 2, he only has to beat four guys and you know some other people are going to have problems in the next two races. 216. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Welcome back, thumbs down troll. Tell your mother I said hi. 217. Nathan8848 posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Can someone tell me why Kyle Busch winning the Xfinity race is still trending on Facebook? 218. Doug posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:52 pm Rate this comment: (1) (2) " 213. Nathan8848 posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) 2 things, 1- Logano pushed Johnson below down low. 2- Harvick didn't let back in the line. " By your name, we know you are sooooo unbiased. We shall pray for you as you battle your degenerative brain disease. 219. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:52 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Looking at the replay, it looks like Logano was pushing Jimmie hard across the line. So it's Logano's fault. 220. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) It actually wasn't Jimmie's fault watching the replay. It was that little punk Logano. 221. Stewart14rocks posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If harvick can't get back out he'll finish 43rd 222. racefangurl posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Half the TEB is in the top-22. 223. Sean posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Let's face it: NASCAR wants highlights like this to hype in future races and fairness be damned. Debris cautions are even more likely to ruin the race after long green flag runs... 224. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:55 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "By your name, we know you are sooooo unbiased. We shall pray for you as you battle your degenerative brain disease." Did you seriously just basically say who is a fan of Johnson suffers from a severe brain disorder?! Wow, man, I'm not a Johnson fan, but that was just downright cold right there. 225. BMan0213 posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "It's crazy to think Harvick could lead the points all year and then promptly fail to make it past Round 1 of the Chase, but right now, there is a very strong possibility of that happening..." Not really Hamlin last year finished 37th at New Hampshire last year in the first round and he still made it. As long as Harvick doesn't have a problem in the other 2 races he'll be fine. I'd still like him to get back out there and send Jimmie for a loop down the backstretch tho lol 226. Stewart14rocks posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Meh, nascar is just a try hard to make it the most popular sport in america 227. Stewart14rocks posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gordon to the lead111111 228. dennyfan11 posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Jeff Gordon takes the lead! 229. Sean posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:56 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Meh, nascar is just a try hard to make it the most popular sport in america" Which is why it's been losing popularity the last ten years since they've been doing this stuff, right? 230. Rick Allen posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Have I mentioned the restart zone enough today? 231. 02Justin10 posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) *sigh.* Cause and Effect...if NASCAR didn't throw that mystery air caution that crash would have been avoided. (At least that particular one.) 232. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:56 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) "Can someone tell me why Kyle Busch winning the Xfinity race is still trending on Facebook?" Because his fanboys just can't get enough of him beating the daylights out of a bunch of drivers with a fraction of the budget that his team has? Can't think of a better reason... 233. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Let me guess... Jeffie gets a penalty here when two Gibbs drivers last week got away with it. 234. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Does NASCAR think Jeff jumped the restart or is it that Jeff had his best restart in a decade? 235. Nathan8848 posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Busch didn't go. 236. Stewart14rocks posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:58 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) Indy car will become more popular soon 237. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Where the hell has this speed from Gordon been all year? 238. Sean posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) They're not gonna black-flag Jeff Gordon for jumping the start. I mean they wouldn't even do it in his heyday when he was up front every week... Now they'll be even less likely since this is his retirement season, his record-tying race, and he's been up front so little this season... 239. Ernest T. posted: 09.20.2015 - 4:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Restart under review" == A non-Gibbs car beat a Gibbs car off the line, perfectly cleanly. 240. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Under review? BS. Look up consistency in the dictionary NASCAR. 241. dennyfan11 posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This will be a huge blow for Harvick's hopes of making it to round 2. He is, as they run, 15 points behind 15th and 26 behind 12th, so he has a mountain to climb. The others in the bottom 4 are Jamie Macmurray, Clint Bowyer, and Paul Menard. All of those are winless, so none surprise me. I expect the other person who is eliminated to be either Harvick or Ryan Newman. 242. Lucstar88 posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If they get Gordon for that. It's offical, JGR has NASCAR in their pocket after what happened last week. What a JOKE! 243. Anonymous posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:01 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) lol if y'all think NASCAR is gonna penalize Gordon and maybe hurt his chances of advancing in his last Chase. lol if y'all think NASCAR is gonna penalize Gordon for anything 244. Lucstar88 posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) No further action. Right call. 245. Sean posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The problem with NASCAR's inconsistency in rulings is that no matter what happens somebody will be pissed off, since anyone will be able to cite a precedent for similar incidents that went one way and similar incidents that went another. But there's no way they're going to penalize Gordon... 246. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:03 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) No penalty. Good. Forget the restart boxes, let's just say they go when the green flag waives. 247. OldSchoolNascarDude1 posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) A 10 minute review? I hope there's no controversy at the end of the race, because the race would be over while NASCAR is still reviewing the restart. 248. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) They made the right call. 249. Stewart14rocks posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kahne 21st way off compared to other Hendricks cars 250. Anonymous posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:05 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Gee I wonder who will dominate the Chase out of nowhere and win the title in his final season 251. Kyle Busch posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wah! Wah! Wah! 252. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Of course Kyle and his crew are POed that NASCAR didn't penalize Jeff for that restart, yet they're probably going to maintain the JGR cars weren't jumping the restarts at Richmond last week. Sorry, but you can't help but look hypocritical in this situation... 253. Lucstar88 posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:05 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) STOP CRYING KYLE. YOU DID THAT LAST WEEK. YOU HYPOCRITE I really hope JGR chokes, bunch of classless people. Except Edwards and Matt. Have huge respect for them. 254. Stewart14rocks posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jeff Gordon might be able to pull off a Tony stewart 255. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) WAIT, THIS IS JEFF GORDONS FINAL SEASON? GEE, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT!!! 256. Joe Gibbs posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I will have you know that my cars followed by the rules at Richmond, they weren't penalized. But this should have been a penalty. 257. Lee posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I know we're already past it, but I believe a mix of Logano pushing Jimmie and Harvick trying to block caused that wreck. If Harvick gets back out there and does something stupid to either Jimmie or Logano, he won't be in the next race. It's not worth it. And he's not a lock to win the next couple of races, either. He's been pretty average (or below average) at Dover, and not much better at New Hampshire. Harvick has one the best statistical seasons ever in Sprint Cup history and *may* have nothing to show for it when it comes down to Homestead. 258. Sean posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Because Gordon wouldn't whine if somebody arguably jumped a start against him in the situation? You don't know Gordon well. And if Kyle loses, some fans would take this as evidence of his 'choking'. Sigh. 259. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:07 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Seriously though, I wouldn't expect anything less of Kyle. This is totally consistent with the behavior we've come to expect out of him, isn't it? 260. Nathan8848 posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Enough with this restart box!!! Find something else to talk about. 261. Joe Gibbs posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Oh come on. The announcers are STILL talking about the restart. NASCAR said no penalty. Move on. 262. BMan0213 posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Like what Jeff did I find that ok. You can see from the 22 car that Kyle clearly sandbagged that start heck even joey got into him. Even after that Jeff wasn't that far in front at the line. IMO anything like that is ok. When you get a jump like Kenseth did last week or what Ryan Blaney did at Bristol in the Truck race, that's when you should be black flagged. 263. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I have been really bad at changing my username back today... 264. Sean posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:09 pm Rate this comment: (1) (3) "I really hope JGR chokes, bunch of classless people. Except Edwards and Matt. Have huge respect for them." Edwards classy? hahahahaha Kenseth I guess, but I've always viewed him as a whiner too... They ALL whine. They ALL wreck people. I can't think of many people who I would say are completely clean. Maybe Truex and McMurray. Can't think of many others. 265. Stewart14rocks posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:09 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Tbh there should be no restart zone just go after pace car goes off to pit lane. 266. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Almirola quietly having another solid top ten. 267. Stewart14rocks posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) He's been fast hopefully this pace continues. 268. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It would be hilarious if Gordon won the title after the way he ran this season. I would love it: My tied-for-favorite driver gets a title in his last season and NASCAR's playoff system continues to get exposed. 269. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:13 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) "They ALL whine. They ALL wreck people. I can't think of many people who I would say are completely clean. Maybe Truex and McMurray. Can't think of many others." And you wonder why NASCAR is losing popularity. Aside from the questionable calls the sports constantly makes in the name of excitement, there are just SO damn many whiny, self-entitled, hard-to-like drivers in the top rides. The "I can race you dirty or pull dirty moves whenever I want, but don't you DARE pull those moves on me or else!" crowd. I know it's kind of harsh, but I think that accurately describes at least 75% of the drivers in this field... 270. Lucstar88 posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:13 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) @264. I respect Edwards after that amazing 2011 run. Last week, Kyle changed lanes before a restart. NOTHING! Kenseth jumps. NOTHING! I'm sorry that JGR can't keep a championship together. 2014 - Just can't finish. 2013 - Decides to focus on NATIONWIDE and screw Kenseth, by giving him a 25th place car. (Even Kenseth said that) 2010 - Hamlin loses a easy race at Phoenix and lose title. Kyle Busch craps on everyone and thinks he's all high and mighty beating crappy teams in Xfinity, even raging when he doesn't get his way. Kyle can drive, but will never win a title, UNLESS he stops running xfinity. 271. NASCAR Insider posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) We're rigging The Chase for Gordon. We owe him one since we robbed him a couple of years ago with this whole Chase format. Don't tell anyone! Also, did you know it's Jeff Gordon's last year in NASCAR?! 272. Sean posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) "I would love it: My tied-for-favorite driver gets a title in his last season and NASCAR's playoff system continues to get exposed." Well, it would make up for 1996, which exposed THAT points system. 273. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @264 and 269 This is why McMurray is my namesake. 274. BMan0213 posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "If Harvick gets back out there and does something stupid to either Jimmie or Logano, he won't be in the next race. It's not worth it. And he's not a lock to win the next couple of races, either. He's been pretty average (or below average) at Dover, and not much better at New Hampshire." Don't know why you think that. They never suspended Carl or Jeff for doing the same thing, and don't even bring up Kyle he had already been in multiple incidents when he wreck Hornaday at Texas in 2011 plus he wasn't a regular in the Truck series. 275. Nathan8848 posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I can confirm NBC has ran out of things to talk about. 276. mrittenhouse84 posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @257 - He may not have the results but in the 3 races he's been with Stewart-Hass - Harvick led the most laps in two races to have 2 freak tire problems occur, and then this year he finished 2nd in June - I wouldn't count him out. 277. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "It would be hilarious if Gordon won the title after the way he ran this season." Honestly, I'm kind of hoping this happens-either that, or Kyle wins the title. As I've said before, these would really showcase the flaws of this Chase system. I don't think this is THE worst system possible, but it REALLY needs some tweaking... 278. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) They're filling time until the caution that comes out at lap 250. 279. Lucstar88 posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Great runs for Larson and Almirola GORDON RAN OUT O_O 280. Stewart14rocks posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Starting to miss fox and ESPN. 281. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gordon starts the cycle of green flag pit stops. 282. Ryan W posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:17 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) The 22 got into the 48 off the restart is why there was contact with the 48 and 4. And it wasn't like the 4 got off to a horrible restart. Not saying it's too early to be doing that, but bumping like that wasn't really necessary. I don't like Gordon or Kyle Busch, but the next restart at first I thought Gordon jumped the restart, but then it was easy to see that Ky. Busch didn't go and you can tell he didn't go and was wanting a slowww restart because the 22 almost went to the outside and passed him. 283. Stewart14rocks posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:17 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) NASCAR should do what indycar does 35 regular season races then double points race at homestead 284. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Starting to miss fox and ESPN." Please tell me you're joking. 285. Sean posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:18 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) NBC's coverage is better than FOX or ESPN Mark II (after Mark Shapiro ruined ESPN in the early 2000s), but there are more similarities than some people which to admit. For instance, I've been viewing Rutledge Wood as NBC's Digger... 286. Sean posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "NASCAR should do what indycar does 35 regular season races then double points race at homestead" GOD no. Double points are almost as bad as the chase. Why is every series moving away from scoring all races the same? Having said that, I actually like the win-and-in chase better than any of the others... But I still don't want it. 287. Stewart14rocks posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @284 I'm joking, would like to see Rutledge wood on the booth 288. Sean posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "some people which to admit." some people WISH to admit. Sorry. 289. Stewart14rocks posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @286 knowing as long as we have Brian france as president we will have the playoffs 290. Nathan8848 posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Debris turn 4. 291. Lucstar88 posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Debris T4 292. Jacques posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:20 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Bonjour! 293. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Caution as only seven cars are on the lead lap? How conveeeeeeenient! 294. Nathan8848 posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Real debris this time. 295. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Caution. There is at least actual debris. 296. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Real debris caution for a small chunk of metal in turn 4. I know, I'm surprised it's real as well. 297. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Why does everyone hate Rut? I actually like him a lot, he's funny. 298. Stewart14rocks posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Just so I take words outta the conspiracy theorist mouths and say "NASCAR threw the debris there" 299. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) STFU ABOUT THE RESTART NBC 300. Robert posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I like NBC's coverage, except for Letarte who I can't stand. 301. Ernest T. posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Another caution to help Edwards/Hamlin (2 weren't enough): check. Kyle jumps this next restart by a mile, dares NASCAR to penalize a Gibbs car after NASCAR blatant let Jeff Gordon get away with a clean start last time (which Kyle sandbagged): check. NASCAR goes back to Sgt. Schultz mode and sees nothing: check. 302. Stewart14rocks posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @88&4 he would do good in the Booth for nbc races 303. Sean posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:24 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) "Why does everyone hate Rut? I actually like him a lot, he's funny." To me his humor seems forced, like Darrell Waltrip, Michael Waltrip, Kenny Wallace, or Jeff Hammond's. By contrast, Benny Parsons, Jordan Taylor, James Hinchcliffe, and Josef Newgarden's seemed natural. But we can agree to disagree on this. I guess I'm tired of clowns. I wish people would take their positions seriously, but I am a hypocrite since I DO like some of the quirky drivers... 304. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) How did Gordon lose 4 spots for taking 2 tires while others took 4...What? 305. Stewart14rocks posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Waltrips are just plan old dumbasses who have no business being on the Booth. Kenny Wallace has a good perosnality 306. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) "Restart" is well on its' way to becoming my least favorite racing-related word. But it's NASCAR's favorite, of course... 307. Sean posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) More to the point...you have to be *really* funny if you're going to choose to emphasize quirkiness over actual professionalism, and I don't find him funny, but nobody agrees on humor in the first place I guess... It's why to a degree Dan Patrick and Keith Olbermann and Stuart Scott could maybe get away with their catchphrases on SportsCenter while many, many others were truly, truly annoying with them. 308. Stewart14rocks posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) NASCARS FAV WORDS caution,debris,wreck,restart 309. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) While many, many others were truly, truly annoying with them. Kenny Mayne, the least funny person who thought he was funny. 310. Darrell posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:28 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) "And you wonder why NASCAR is losing popularity. Aside from the questionable calls the sports constantly makes in the name of excitement, there are just SO damn many whiny, self-entitled, hard-to-like drivers in the top rides. The "I can race you dirty or pull dirty moves whenever I want, but don't you DARE pull those moves on me or else!" crowd. I know it's kind of harsh, but I think that accurately describes at least 75% of the drivers in this field..." Well put. You have the obvious ones like Busch and Hamlin who are known for that, but then you have guys like Harvick and Larson who do the exact same thing but are given a free pass (and this is among many other drivers). The drivers who don't come off like spoiled brats that I can think of: McMurray Truex Bayne Most of the smaller team guys like Whitt, Allgaier, Gilliland etc. Keselowski races aggressively but he usually doesn't throw a fit when it happens, as compared to the hissy fits many other drivers throw whenever he passes them. (THE NERVE!) Dillon gets a bad rap, but he's not a crybaby compared to many others. When most of the competitors can be objectively described as unlikeable or entitled, that is a big problem. 311. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I personally think Gordon is playing the chase system perfectly. I think he is holding back since he knows he only has to skate by the regular season and now that the chase has started he's showing speed. That's why I think he's been slow this season. 312. Rick Allen posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Did we mention that Jeff Gordon had a controversial restart on the last restart? 313. Lucstar88 posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:28 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Harvick back. Said on the radio : Tell me where the 48 is. 314. RaceFanX posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Rowdy's got them covered today. 315. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Come on Kurt 316. Ted posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:29 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Harvick just asked where the 48 was on the track on the radio. I'm a Harvick fan; please don't do what I think you're going to do, Kevin. You're not a 20 years old any more. 317. BluesTravelerFan posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) According to Kyle Busches personal rulebook he jumped the restart there... 318. Darrell posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I hope DW meshes well with Gordon in the booth next year. I don't think he's that bad of a commentator but him with McReynolds was just unlistenable hickville nonsense. Rutledge Wood comes of too much like that dorky hipster kid in college who thinks he's the class clown even though he routinely bombs at every open mic he goes to. 319. BMan0213 posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm not shocked there was really something on the track for that last yellow. As bad as NASCAR is they never throw a yellow in the middle of green flag pit stops unless its really needed 320. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "NASCARS FAV WORDS caution,debris,wreck,restart" On the restart we have a caution for a wreck that created debris! 321. racefangurl posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 303,I'm quirky. Everyone has their quirks. 322. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:31 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Another caution to help Edwards/Hamlin (2 weren't enough): check." How much you want to bet if one of them wins the race, it's made out to be a great comeback when both just got REALLY lucky with the cautions falling exactly their way? 323. Nathan8848 posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:32 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Greg Biffle----a good car? I don't think so. 324. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick just passed Greg Biffle. I'm going to be laughing for a while. 325. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:32 pm Rate this comment: (1) (3) Here are the "unhateable" drivers IMO: Truex McMurray Dale Jr Cassill Mears And a few other drivers who don't ever run well enough to be in situations where they would be involved in controversy. 326. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The battle of the Busch brothers. 327. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @325 Dale Jr is unhateable by everyone? Sure he is. 328. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @303- Please don't compare the Wall-trips to Kenny and Hammonds. Kenny and Hammonds are good, the Wall-trips are not. 329. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:35 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I think most people just hate Jr's fans, not the driver himself. 330. racefangurl posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:35 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) 323, anyone that says a Roush car is good is full of bullcrap. 331. Nathan8848 posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:36 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Draft Kings ads are getting really annoying. They have taken over. They are on almost every commercial break for NASCAR and the NFL. 332. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 57 laps left. Busch has a substantial lead over Busch. 333. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:36 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) #325 While I don't think Junior is an asshole, calling him unhateable is a stretch. I've seen PLENTY of people who consider Junior one of their least favorite drivers (if not their least favorite...) 334. racefangurl posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 329, Junior has some crazy fans. I'm not a fan, but I don't hate him or his fans. 335. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:37 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) By everyone who isn't one of those "herp derp he's just riding on daddy's coattails lol embarrassment to the family" idiots, yeah. Name one time Jr acted like a spoiled child. You can't. Even Harvick my second favorite driver has moments where he acts up and I would never put him on a list of "un-hateable" drivers. Jr is a complete class act. 336. Sean posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) "Name one time Jr acted like a spoiled child. You can't." 2009 Daytona 500 337. Nathan8848 posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:39 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Jr. is never really in those controversial issues. Maybe the original Bristol spin-gate or Richmond / Busch incident back in 08 or 09. 338. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:39 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Oh, you mean when Vickers decided to be an idiot by blocking for the free pass? 339. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I like Jr. Myself but that comment is very biased... 340. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kurt has caught Kyle. 341. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kurt Busch to the lead! 342. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Kurt gets by the Bayne chicane(hey that rhymes)to the lead from Ky. 343. Sean posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Looked to me like Junior was upset he was having a bad run and chose to have a hissy fit in front of the entire field and started a Big One half on purpose (even DW blamed Junior, not Vickers for this). Vickers certainly has more of a history as a dirty driver though, but I don't think that one's so cut and dry as you're making it. 344. Ted posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:42 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) 88&4fan, I think if you polled 100 fans, 75% of them would say Harvick is pretty unlikeable; not the most, but high on the list. And this coming from a fan of the man since his early Busch Series days. I think Jr. has always handled himself considering the circumstances he's had around him. He could have easily become angry at the world after his father passed away; instead, he's very kind to pretty much every driver and wants to help NASCAR in any way he can. 345. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) New leader! 346. BluesTravelerFan posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:43 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I'm a semi Jr fan myself but like every driver he has had his less than admirable moments. But I do agree in general he is better than most, I mean he doesn't make empty empty threats and petty grudges like most drivers nowadays. 347. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:43 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "2009 Daytona 500" There was that one time in Bristol (the '04 Food City 500, I think), where Junior intentionally spun his car out to force a caution because he was dropping back in the field and needed one. He did actually fess up to that one, though... That is still a LOT less than quite a lot of other drivers. Drivers like the Busch brothers, Keselowski, Harvick, etc. could fill up a book with the amount of controversial issues they've been in. 348. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I agree with Ted. He is definitely one of the better drivers on the track. But putting him as "unhateable" is a stretch. 349. MAR posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Its halftime so I'm back I heard Harvick crashed did Jimmie wreck him. 350. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I understand why people don't like Harvick. Which is why he wasn't on my very short list. 351. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Well, Hamlin and Edwards are 4th and 5th. The wave around really needs to go... 352. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And speaking of the Busch brothers, Kurt has not only taken the lead away from Kyle, but is pulling away. I think he wins this race if they stay green, he seems to be one of the strongest on the long run... 353. Sean posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:46 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Well, Hamlin and Edwards are 4th and 5th. The wave around really needs to go..." The wave around is NOT the problem. I don't mind that. The wave around coupled with debris cautions is the problem. Get rid of one or the other, and I'd strongly prefer getting rid of the imaginary debris cautions instead... 354. Nathan8848 posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Dale is having a good run considering the scheme on his car. Now we see why Hornish was in the garage earlier, as his hood is partly taped. 355. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kandy Kahne just got passed by Princess and Phat Tony 356. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Also, with Harvick and Dillon back out there, we are actually on pace to have our second race of the year that every car was running at the finish. Don't believe that has ever happened before... Of course, that is probably gonna change if Harvick finds the #48 on the track... 357. Anonymous posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) That rhyme is as bad as corny puns, 342. 358. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I guess I'm cheering for Kurt to win this one, since every other driver in the top five is either a driver I hate or a driver I don't like. I used to hate Kurt but I've gained some respect for him lately. 359. Sean posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Everybody is talking about them going on and on and on about restarts. What I'm noticing is they're going on and on and on about how DIFFICULT this pit road is to the point of annoyance. All weekend. They're talking about the Chicagoland pit road like it's as dangerous as Darlington or Bristol or Dover or Talladega or something, which is just laughable! 360. racefangurl posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) It's amazing how a team can go downhill. All the Roushskateers are lapped. Fix the chassis ASAP, Roush! 361. Sean posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:52 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Hard to tell if Roush's issue is the engineering or the drivers. I think the answer is both. 362. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Allmendinger gets a speeding penalty. Doubt that NBC will mention it though, as he's not in the Chase and thus of lesser importance... 363. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @357, thanks no name. 364. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) They actually mentioned AJ 365. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Well, they actually did mention it, surprisingly... Hamlin pits, and Kenseth is the only driver still out there yet to come to pit road... 366. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) McMurray has an apparent tire rub. If he crashes or blows a tire he is officially crowned the unluckiest driver in the history of NASCAR. 367. BMan0213 posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "It's amazing how a team can go downhill. All the Roushskateers are lapped. Fix the chassis ASAP, Roush!" Maybe they need to get better drivers.... Their poor performance isn't 100% because of their equipment. 368. racefangurl posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) 361 and 362, what do you guys think the percentage are for how much of Roush's trouble is car and how much is driver? 369. jabber1990 posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) we all hated Kurt, then we thought he got screwed by NASCAR over something he proably did then we find out the IRS and FBI are mad at her....suddenly i'm on his side! 370. Sean posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:55 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "If he crashes or blows a tire he is officially crowned the unluckiest driver in the history of NASCAR." He was pretty lucky in 2010. I vote for Jerry Nadeau seriously, among drivers who didn't die in the cockpit (who would likely be THE unluckiest). 371. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:56 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) That might be the first ever green flag pit stop for a car 60 laps down to be televised. 372. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I've stood with Kurt since day one on the you-know-what incident actually, but I don't want to get into that considering what happened on HER page... 373. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yeah I forgot about Nadeau...you're definetly right about that one. 374. NASCAR8824 posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yay! Gordon to second. Will he be able to pull a Tony Stewart 2011? 375. Ernest T. posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) There absolutely will be a caution shortly; NASCAR isn't going to let Busch -- Kurt, that is -- win so easily, and not let him win at all if they can help it. Which they can. If the caution is for Harvick wrecking Johnson, that might be worth it though. 376. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gordon goes by for second. Now go for the win. But I like Kurt too so I'm fine with either of them winning, 377. racefangurl posted: 09.20.2015 - 5:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Biffle may be an old guy declining and Stenhouse may be like NASCAR's version of AAAA, but Bayne's just so hard to judge when the geometry and behind in the simulation Roush has when you add in how little experience at some of these tracks he has in the Cup and may be adjusting to a new team. 378. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:00 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) "Yeah I forgot about Nadeau...you're definetly right about that one." Steve Park has got to be the runner-up on that list. He would've definitely won more than 2 races and gone on to a pretty good career overall, I think, if not for all his crash injuries. He was REALLY starting to come into his own before his freak accident at Darlington pretty much destroyed his career... 379. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Fontana 2.0. Calling it right now. 380. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Uh, Bayne has been in Cul since 2010. He has experience on most tracks. And he isn't struggling to adjust to a new team. He's been with Roush since 2010. 381. Nathan8848 posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Our weekly BK caution!! 382. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And there it is. 383. Ernest T. posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bingo. Kyle wins. Or Hamlin or Edwards. 384. NASCAR8824 posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Jacques.......... 385. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Its sad when we can call it before it happens. NBC's trying to claim its from DiBenedetto scrubbing the wall. 386. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Debris caution. Because of course we need a restart with less than 10 laps to go. Actually, it might be real, DiBenedetto has clearly been in the outside wall pretty hard. 387. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 10 bucks says Kurt doesn't win. 388. racefangurl posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 380, he's never worked this exact set of people. Like Bob Osborne has never been his crew chief before. 389. Sean posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well, then there's Billy Wade, the 1963 ROTY, who became the first driver to win four races in a row in 1964 and died the next off-season, making him in my opinion unluckier than Weatherly and Roberts who also died in that time period but had already had a lot of success. That's why I chose Nadeau among drivers who did not die, because I would say a lot of drivers who died were less lucky than anyone else. But Park and Irvan would be close to Nadeau. Ridiculous caution. Hopefully one of the Busches wins, since they're the ones who deserve it, not Gordon so much. Edwards and Hamlin FAR LESS. 390. Lucstar88 posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Fake debris. Welp. GG Kyle. 391. Ernest T. posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:02 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I'll see your $10 and raise you 150 Quatloos. 392. BMan0213 posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "361 and 362, what do you guys think the percentage are for how much of Roush's trouble is car and how much is driver?" I'd say over 50% is on the drivers. I feel the equipment isn't that much worse than it was last year. I think Biffle's major drop off in production is more because because he's getting up there in age rather than the equipment he's in. Bayne is well just ok IMO, and Stenhouse has shown some good speed at times during the year, but he just can't seem to keep the car out of the wall. I really feel like if say Edwards stayed there he would have made the Chase, but thats just me. I'm sure a lot of people would disagree 393. Nathan8848 posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Busch and Gordon stay out. 394. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kurt, Gordon, and Hamlin stay out. Kyle is gonna win on fresh tires... 395. Smiff_2 posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "DEBRIS" This is gonna be a shit show, just you watch. 396. racefangurl posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 387, he won't because he's not a Gibbs driver. At least if they can help it. 397. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle wins... 398. NASCAR8824 posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kurt, Gordon, and Hamlin will probably get steamrolled. 399. Sean posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Bman0213, I don't know. Edwards is kind of having an AWFUL (but lucky) season given how strong JGR's equipment has been this year. Just like Pagenaud ended up doing worse at Penske than he did at Schmidt, which also makes no sense... Edwards and Hamlin have EASILY had the most overrated seasons of anyone this year. 400. BMan0213 posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) looks like the 83 hit the wall. Should the yellow have come out? No, but at least something happened. 401. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @397 Kyle pitted. He has a huge hole to get out of. 402. Ernest T. posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:05 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Maybe Truex could win this and that wouldn't be a bad thing IMO, but that's not a desired outcome for the manipulators so don't bet much on it happening. 403. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I really feel like if say Edwards stayed there he would have made the Chase, but thats just me." He may have snuck in on points or won a short track race. Even in the 2nd half of last year, he was getting lapped at the cookie cutters with plenty of laps left. 404. Lucstar88 posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Someone in the tower said that he saw nothing :/ 405. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "@397 Kyle pitted. He has a huge hole to get out of." He's gonna restart 5th, that's not REALLY a big hole at all... 406. Anonymous posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Complete phantom debris caution. I wonder why..... 407. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Go Kurt or Truex 408. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @399 I disagree about Hamlin. He's led 500+ laps this season and he has a win and has been getting several top 5's. He has a least done better than Edwards. 409. BMan0213 posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Bman0213, I don't know. Edwards is kind of having an AWFUL (but lucky) season given how strong JGR's equipment has been this year. Just like Pagenaud ended up doing worse at Penske than he did at Schmidt, which also makes no sense..." I think a lot of Edwards problems have been from adjusting to a new team. It's pretty much what Harvick went through last year. 410. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Truex got 2 tires and starts behind Kurt. 411. NASCAR8824 posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Green flag with 5 to go! 412. Sean posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I think a lot of Edwards problems have been from adjusting to a new team. It's pretty much what Harvick went through last year." Harvick won the title and Kenseth made the same transition that Edwards did and had arguably the best season of his career when he went to Gibbs. Not sure I buy it. 413. NASCAR8824 posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin to the lead?????? 414. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gordon falls WAY back. Here comes EDWARDS out of nowhere. 415. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle hit the wall 416. Sean posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm gonna barf if Denny or Carl win. Only Kurt or Kyle deserve it. 417. Lucstar88 posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:09 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) FAKE DEBRIS GETS JGR A WIN f**k YOU! 418. JG24FanForever posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:09 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) This race has become completely useless. 419. Ernest T. posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:09 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Four Gibbs cars in the top 5. NASCAR is smiling. 420. Nathan8848 posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gordon fell back to reality. 421. NASCAR8824 posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) White Flag! 422. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yep, Edwards or Hamlin has got this race in the bag. Had a gut feeling one of those two was gonna win once they kept catching lucky cautions to keep them from falling a lap down. "WHAT A COMEBACK!" 423. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Look whose fourth :P 424. Sean posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:10 pm Rate this comment: (3) (1) Despicable race. I'm glad I'm entered at a Scrabble tournament next weekend. Hopefully I won't watch my DVR recording of Loudon. 425. Nathan8848 posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin wins at Chicago. 426. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:11 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) We are brought back to reality with what is known as the sanctioning body of NASCAR. 427. Lucstar88 posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:11 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) I REALLY HOPE DENNY GETS SCREWED BULL SHIT CAUTION! HOPE NASCAR GETS f**kING BEAT BY INDYCAR. f**k THIS SPORT!!!! 428. Ernest T. posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:11 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Do people really think FIFA is the most corrupt sports organization around? 429. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Newman 4th??? Time for Harvick to lay out Dos Jotas. 430. NASCAR8824 posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin wins. Wow! 431. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:11 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Congratulations to Kurt Busch your winner. Brian France can kiss my ass. Second time he's been screwed over this year. 432. Stewart14rocks posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Somehow Hamlin wins and kenseth gets 5th. And Newman gets fourth 433. Sean posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Same thing happened to Kurt at Fontana this year, huh? I'd say Kurt's actually been the unluckiest this season. Denny and Carl had been the luckiest even BEFORE this race. 434. JG24FanForever posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:12 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) The whole race could have just been a five lap sprint, instead of this waste of time. 435. Anonymous posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) toyota money. brian france, and less horsepower win again 436. BluesTravelerFan posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Never ever bet against clean air..... 437. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) DAMNED disappointed with the end of this race. It's just not an option for NASCAR to let these races go green to the finish without having a restart in the final ten minutes to shake everything up, isn't it? I said it before and I'll say it again...I predict this is how at least 7 of the 10 Chase races end up. I can EASILY see this... 438. Nathan8848 posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:13 pm Rate this comment: (2) (3) Laughing at you guys complaining. You do it every f**king week. Yet you come back every f**king week. 439. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Rick Allen is really laying the Hamlin as Willis Reed 2.0 storyline thick. 440. Stewart14rocks posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 9th jgr win this season 441. NASCAR8824 posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well, Torn ACL doesn't keep Denny down! 442. JG24FanForever posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "9th jgr win this season" 12 4 for Busch 4 for Kenseth 2 for Edwards 2 for Hamlin 443. Lucstar88 posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:15 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I really hope Indycar gets big, cause this is so stupid. Please save us Indycar!!! 444. JG24FanForever posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Laughing at you guys complaining. You do it every f**king week. Yet you come back every f**king week." How would you know when things sucked if nobody ever complained? 445. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Is JGR paying NASCAR to throw these conviently timed cautions? 446. Dale Earnhardt, Jr. posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:17 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) A lot of people have helped get me here. My sister's always had my back. My friends Tony and Sean. The crew pushing me to be faster. Amy reminding me to enjoy the moment. Fans of course. And Nationwide who I have personally been with for more than 25 years. Its never been just me out there. 447. Nathan8848 posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:18 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Don't forget Dale, your father had the most important role to get you there. 448. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) In all fairness though, it's still quite impressive to win or even run well with a torn ACL. Congrats to Denny, just don't like the circumstances that it happened under. 449. MAR posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:18 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) Rigged Rigged Rigged 450. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:18 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) Kurt Busch just implied in his interview that the finish was rigged. 451. JG24FanForever posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:18 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Denny Hamlin has the same win total as Fred Lorenzen, now. So improbable. So unlikely! Hamlin pulls off the most miraculous drive in motorsport since Juan Manuel Fangio at the 1957 German GP. Unbelievable. 452. BMan0213 posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) So many things wrong here and i'm not even talking about the yellow. How about Carl not even being able to catch Denny even with 4 fresh tires.... 453. MAR posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Every time he tears his ACL he turns into a super driver 454. Flag Man posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:20 pm Rate this comment: (3) (1) *waves yellow flag for air on the track* 455. KurtBusch41Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:21 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) WWE...... 456. Lucstar88 posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick trying to start stuff. 457. dennyfan11 posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:22 pm Rate this comment: (1) (3) YAY FOR HAMLIN! 458. JG24FanForever posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Fight in the Schoolyard!!! 459. BMan0213 posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:22 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) "I really hope Indycar gets big, cause this is so stupid. Please save us Indycar!!!" Don't get your hopes up. Indy Car is the king of taking 1 step forward and 5 steps back. Plus as bad NASCAR officiating is Indy Car is still worse. 460. Jarrett88fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) The new iron man and Kurt Busch really got hosed on that ill timed caution. Horrible finish. 461. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Way to dig deep, Burnsie. 462. Sean posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Indeed. The Mid-Ohio IndyCar race this year disgusted me just as much as this one. 463. Canadianfan posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It looks like Denny got Jeff loose going into The restart Jeff went to the bottom and then he just Push him out of the way they went three wide and with the air on both sides just car was loose lost it and Fell back When I saw the three wide I knew it was over for Jeff. 464. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Oh look, JGR is 1-2-3-4 in points! 465. Anonymous posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Chevrolet should've been winning. Chevrolet will win the god damn manufactures title. 466. JG24FanForever posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) "Chevrolet should've been winning. Chevrolet will win the god damn manufactures title." Nah. Chevy have won the last 56 manufactures title's. It's time for a new champ. 467. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Oh look, JGR is 1-2-3-4 in points!" New final four predictions for Homestead: Hamlin Kyle Busch Edwards Kenseth Okay, I'm honestly kidding around here, but in all seriousness, I STILL think there is a very realistic possibility this is actually gonna happen... 468. BMan0213 posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Like i'm not gonna say i'm done with this sport because i know damn well I'm gonna watch next week and the weeks after, but i'm really getting sick and tired of NASCAR's BS... I seriously don't get the people running this sport. Like i know damn well what they're thinking, "hey lets throw a yellow to give the fans exciting finish." Only problem is non of the fans want a questionable yellow to manufacturer an "exciting" finish. I have no idea what made them put that thought in their heads that this is what we want... As much as i hate the Chase it's not even close to being the worst thing wrong with the sport right now. These yellows are, and it's not even close. 469. Schroeder51 posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) ^I've said it before, you can blame the geniuses at the fan council for this. The overwhelming majority of them said in a poll a few years back that they DID want more caution flags and more restarts. Seriously, these cautions in the final ten laps are just pissing me off. It is literally getting to the point where I would honestly not be shocked if NASCAR made it mandatory for every race to have at least 1 GWC... Even though the finish of this race irked me, I'll still tune in next week. Call it foolishness, naivety, or sado-masochism on my part, but there's this part of me that always has hope that things will turn out better next race...And for that matter, it isn't healthy to dwell on the problems of this sport...I know we all care about the sport, its' health, and its' future, but in the grand scheme of things the unhappy outcome of a race does not have any long-term effect on most of our lives... 470. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:43 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) Trying to calm down, but I'm still angry about this. For the past several weeks NASCAR has shown nothing but complete favoritism for JGR. From perfectly timed debris cautions to no penalties to everything in between, JGR has been getting so lucky to the point that I think NASCAR truly wants them to win. I don't even know how you can consider this JGR dominance when several of their wins have huge asterisks next to them. 471. murb posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:43 pm Rate this comment: (3) (2) I don't understand the outrage. Gordon jumping the restart and not getting called for it is the only thing that I would classify as "despicable" about this race. Yeah, the last caution was another one of their knee-jerk cautions for someone getting into the wall, but at least it wasn't a complete farce like Fontana. Oh wait, nevermind. That's right, this is Racing Reference. I totally get the outrage. 472. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kevin Harvick punched Jimmie Johnson after the race. 473. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:47 pm Rate this comment: (3) (1) "I don't understand the outrage." It's not today, but it's the combination of everything that has happened in the last few weeks is why everyone is mad. From Busch and Kenseth jumping the restarts and not getting penalized to the debris cautions with 10 to go that have made a JGR car win the last couple weeks, it's understandable why some posters are upset about this. 474. BMan0213 posted: 09.20.2015 - 6:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I don't understand the outrage. Gordon jumping the restart and not getting called for it is the only thing that I would classify as "despicable" about this race. Yeah, the last caution was another one of their knee-jerk cautions for someone getting into the wall, but at least it wasn't a complete farce like Fontana." Except Jeff didn't jump Kyle slowed down. That's why Joey hit him. The leader has to either go or stay the same speed until the second line. Kyle did neither of those things that's why there was no black flag for Jeff. 475. Nascar Lead Lap Points posted: 09.20.2015 - 7:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsor Updates #42 Clorox Disinfecting Wipes #43 Eckrich/Operation Homefront #17 GearWrench/Fastenal #33 Jewel-Osco/Kraft Velveeta Shells & Cheese #35 MDS Transport #9 Walmart #32 BeerFrost.com/Skuttle Tight #47 Scott Products/Food 4 Less/Clorox/Hungry Jack #38 Love's Travel Stops/Jack Benjamin #23 Estes Express Lines #3 American Ethanol E15 #21 Manufacturing Makes America Strong/SKF 476. Stewart14rocks posted: 09.20.2015 - 7:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) @452 Probably just the clean air also Carl was battling Kurt Busch and the tires weren't that old. If he had a lap or 2 more he would of likely catched him. 477. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 7:31 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) One more thing I'm going to add. I defended the finish to the Darlington race so people might say that I contradicted myself, but the reason I did that was that there was at least a partial spin and because NASCAR does random cautions like that. But controversies have happened 3 races in a row, so I'm a little more skeptical. And I actually like Hamlin, so I was happy he won, I just didn't like the circumstances that it happened under. 478. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 7:32 pm Rate this comment: (1) (3) Alright, I calmed down but let's be honest here, Menard should have won this one, he should have been the lucky dog at one point, not that chump Ragan. Or maybe Kurt Busch. 479. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 7:44 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) The previous comment was not me. 478- would you like to tell us why you keep bothering to post using my name pretending to be me? Nobody thinks you're funny, dipshit. 480. StenhouseFan17 posted: 09.20.2015 - 8:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 17 sponsor: GearWrench/Fastenal 481. racefangurl posted: 09.20.2015 - 8:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) It's rigged for Gibbs, but one of them won't be in the Final Four, perhaps. One of them won't win in the 'Dega round and that one might be in the Big One, so it'll be a Penske/Gibbs final. The other three Gibbs drivers and one of the Penske guys will be the Final Four. Just speculation. 482. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 8:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Looking back through the comments, I agree with 471, I think some of us definetly overreacted today, especially Lucstar88. Also, it's good to have you back on the boards murb. I know it's your choice, but I wish people like you would comment more often again. 483. Spen posted: 09.20.2015 - 9:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Backing up a bit, one moment of decidedly non-classy behavior from Junior that I recall was at the fall Loudon race in '09. After an incident with Reutimann, Junior went on a bit of a tirade against Reuty, something about how Reuty had no business running near the front. For a guy 25th in points to be complaining about a guy in 16th running good seemed a bit immature to me. 484. John posted: 09.20.2015 - 9:40 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) For everyone that says the regular season isn't important with the Chase, Kevin Harvick in the regular season had 2 wins and 10 runner up finishes. What if he would of won 5 races (3 more) and has 7 runner up finishes (3 less). He would only be 13 points behind which is totally manageable. Imagine if it was 7 wins and 5 runner ups. 7 Points behind. Easy comback. Those lack of wins because of so many runner up finishes, very well could be the reason for a different champion this year. The regular season does matter. 485. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 9:54 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) #483- well to be fair Reutty did flat out dump him in that race and Junior was having one of his best runs that season. What Jr said was probably just heat-of-the-moment anger and I would've been mad too if I had been having the worst season of my career, finally have a good race, and then get dumped with just a few laps to go. 486. 1995 Subaru WRX STi posted: 09.20.2015 - 9:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Last the caution was legit. On board i frequent more the here (much more then here) the 83 hit the wall twice. Once with 11 too go then again which brought out the caution. And Gordon didn't jump the restart, Busch didn't go. And NBC too their credit, tries too show debris, unlike FOX which the debris needs too be the size of a wrecked racecar for them too find it. 487. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 10:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) How about this though, the guys who finished 1-2 were both 2 laps down at one point. Like I said before, the wave-around NEEDS TO GO! 488. someone posted: 09.20.2015 - 10:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sean: Can you elaborate on why you think Carl has had a "lucky" season? Did you watch any of the first 17ish races? Even in these last few, Carl has been fairly unlucky, like the flat tire at Bristol while leading. I'll admit that Carl was lucky today, but being lucky one race =/= being lucky all season. 489. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 10:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) @487 No. The lucky dog needs to go. I like the wave around because it is a big strategy risk, but the wave around makes the lucky dog obsolete. To get a lap back for nothing is asinine. The wave around at least brings strategy into play. 490. BMan0213 posted: 09.20.2015 - 10:13 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Yeah I'm fine with the wave around. Do you really want the slower lapped cars starting in front of the leaders because they stayed out under yellow again like the use to. That always lead to trouble, the 2004 Spring race at Dover is a classic example of that. 491. DB1995 posted: 09.20.2015 - 10:17 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Hey Logano took the points lead in the real standings today. 492. someone posted: 09.20.2015 - 10:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 489: At least you have to earn the lucky dog by being the first car one lap down. I've never understood the hate against the wave-around rule. Think about it: if a caution comes out, and you are one lap down, and the leaders pit while you stay out; you'd have technically passed the leader under caution, thus getting your lap back. All the wave around rule does is wave the cars past the pace car, so that we don't have any instances where the leader is like the 15th car on a restart. Sure the wave around can be cheap, but it makes things less confusing. 493. 88&4Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 10:59 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I'd rather have the leaders restarting behind the lapped cars than have guys get entire laps back just by staying out under caution. 494. BMan0213 posted: 09.20.2015 - 11:23 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) As I said before all that causes is trouble. You put the lapped cars in front of the leaders they're gonna get run over and cause wrecks. That's what use to happen before the wave around was a rule. 495. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.20.2015 - 11:28 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Or, we should go back to single file restarts and we have the lapped cars on the left. Less confusion, and we don't have the jump the restart nonsense. 496. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.21.2015 - 12:15 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Not only does 42nd hurt Harvick's title hopes, but it dropped his average finish from 7.7 to 9.0! Yikes. 497. BMan0213 posted: 09.21.2015 - 12:21 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Or, we should go back to single file restarts and we have the lapped cars on the left. Less confusion, and we don't have the jump the restart nonsense." If someone stayed out when the leaders pit under yellow back when they had restarts like that the lapped cars that stayed up to get a lap back would still lineup in front of the leaders on the right side. The wave around would still be needed even if they went back to restarting like that. 498. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.21.2015 - 12:30 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @497 I know, I'm saying we should do both. 499. Ryan W posted: 09.21.2015 - 1:20 am Rate this comment: (2) (0) The Chase is garbage. Guy has 2 wins and 10 runner ups, had the old Winston Cup Standings lead and now he is more than likely out of championship contention. I will say this though, Harvick will race at Dover and New Hampshire like a wild man. If he ever gets the lead late he will be very difficult to pass Dale Earnhardt style. 500. BMan0213 posted: 09.21.2015 - 1:47 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "The Chase is garbage. Guy has 2 wins and 10 runner ups, had the old Winston Cup Standings lead and now he is more than likely out of championship contention." I said this after it happened, but I'll say it again. Hamlin finished 37th at New Hampshire last year and he still advanced out of the first round without winning a race. In other words Harvick's not close to being out of championship contention 501. Schroeder51 posted: 09.21.2015 - 2:03 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Like I said before, the wave-around NEEDS TO GO!" I've said this before as well, but honestly, I think it's the lucky dog that needs to go. NASCAR adding the wave-around rule kind of made it superfluous and obsolete...The wave-around rule, I can understand as that helps prevent the leaders from restarting mid-field and getting taken out in a crash caused by people trying to stay on the lead lap in front of them (Dover '04, anyone?), but it does get obnoxious when we get a questionable debris caution and a bunch of people take the wave-around to promptly immediately get rewarded by a bunch of crashes that automatically keeps them on the lead lap and gives them a chance to pit...I swear, I honestly think NASCAR tries their damnedest to have as many cars on the lead lap as possible at the end of these races sometimes...Which means if you have a problem in the final laps that causes you to drop positions, it turns what in the past might have been a 15th place finish or so into a finish of around 30th... 502. Premium Doesn't Suck 62 66 94 98 posted: 09.21.2015 - 6:28 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsor update: #9 Walmart/Slimfast 503. Cornys posted: 09.21.2015 - 8:34 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @438 (Nathan8848) "Laughing at you guys complaining. You do it every f**king week. Yet you come back every f**king week." Yeah, even with IndyCar done for the season, I still don't find myself watching these races. This coming from a person who was once a huge fan. 504. Spen posted: 09.21.2015 - 8:52 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) For the tenth straight race, Johnson doesn't lead a lap. That is the longest streak of his career. 505. racefangurl posted: 09.21.2015 - 10:07 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) 491, I wish he'd lead these standing at Homestead's end. 506. JRacingFast posted: 09.21.2015 - 10:12 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) For once I'm happy I missed the race I got to watch the early parts and it looked like it was good racing however it seems like fishy NASCAR showed up in the late runs and Kurt Busch gets screwed over again....thats one thing that is really frustrating me about the sport... I wish some of the drivers would take a stand and not race if NASCAR is going to continue to throw questionable cautions 507. racefangurl posted: 09.21.2015 - 10:19 am Rate this comment: (2) (3) I'm no fan of Kurt Busch, but if NASCAR has something against him, it's not right. Whether it's something against Big Brother Busch or non-Gibbs drivers in general, it's still bias. Reporters shouldn't be biased in articles and NASCAR should be biased either. I wonder what NASCAR will do if my speculation about a Gibbs car eliminated after 'Dega because of the Big One come true. 508. JHN#8 posted: 09.21.2015 - 10:59 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) About the lucky dog rule, if kept, they should make the rule where you can onget one a race, and can not receive it if you have gotten any type of penalty during the race. Too many times a pass thru penalty happen, then said driver get their lap back not too long after wards. 509. Cornys posted: 09.21.2015 - 11:12 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) @506 "I wish some of the drivers would take a stand and not race if NASCAR is going to continue to throw questionable cautions" A lot of fans have just quit watching. Various reasons of course, but I think that's a contributing factor. 1.77 overnight TV rating for this race. Down from last year's 2.3 (23%) 510. Cornys posted: 09.21.2015 - 11:14 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) In the same time-slot FOX got a 1.78 overnight rating for MLB (three different games across the country depending on where you live). That's not a good sign. 511. Scott B posted: 09.21.2015 - 12:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) I did not watch this one. Stat of the week: Joe Gibbs Racing 10 wins in the last 13 races. 512. Scott B posted: 09.21.2015 - 12:20 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "I wish some of the drivers would take a stand and not race if NASCAR is going to continue to throw questionable cautions" Considering the only large-scale driver boycott in the series history was over what they considered to be a serious safety issue (the first Talladega race), and that it was pretty much a failure (the event was still run with B-list drivers) you won't see drivers sit out over debris cautions, restart rules, or any of the other controversies currently providing water-cooler conversation material. Very few sponsors would stand by a team decision to boycott over a non life & death issue. 513. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.21.2015 - 12:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "For the tenth straight race, Johnson doesn't lead a lap. That is the longest streak of his career." Not only that, but Johnson is on pace to set a career low in laps led this season. He's won 4 races but only dominated 1, (Texas, also the race I attended.) So this is either the 2nd consecutive down year for the 48 or the dynasty may be ending. 514. Cornys posted: 09.21.2015 - 12:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Very few sponsors would stand by a team decision to boycott over a non life & death issue." All NASCAR would have to say is that they are erring on the side of safety anyways. It would not be a success. 515. 28DaveyAllison28 posted: 09.21.2015 - 2:11 pm Rate this comment: (3) (2) I called it durning closing stages. No way they will let this race finish naturally, and Kurt Bush win. NASCAR is so scripted & I will not be watching Loudon or Dover as a result. Why should I? It's not a real race when you know a caution is ALWAYS coming out. F--- you!! I wish someone else would start their own racing series to replace these scripted events 516. Ernest T. posted: 09.21.2015 - 2:42 pm Rate this comment: (3) (5) I really started following NASCAR racing in the mid-1990s when the sport was exploding. NASCAR's downhill slide began the moment Earnhardt hit the wall at Daytona in 2001, and I don't even say that as an Earnhardt fan, which I wasn't, but I wasn't a hater either. From that point on, NASCAR began to get all namby-pamby with its rules and *everything* had to be done in the name of "safety". Some of it (Safer barriers) have little or no effect on racing and do provide safety and who can argue with that. OTOH, wussy crap like extremely low pit road speed limits, penalties for every damn little thing, "commitment cones", yellow line rules, not racing back to the yellow, "lucky dogs", wavearounds, etc. are all bullshit and detrimental to racing (some more so than others). But if you dare say that then you are obviously a Neanderthal who watches racing only in order to see drivers get dismembered or killed. At least that's what the pious, self-righteous asswipes at NASCAR would accuse you of. Then there's things like "the Chase", abandoning tracks in the South because they attract the "wrong" sort of fan, replacing them with boring cookie-cutter venues that attract the "right" demographic, and other atrocities designed apparently to kill off the sport or at least massively reduce it in popularity. Declining TV ratings and track attendance year after year after year sez: Mission Accomplished, NASCAR! Which brings me to my point at long last: when things were clearly going downhill well over a decade ago, I, like the previous commenter, thought that the only way to make it better was to scrap NASCAR entirely and start a new series. And I figured the one guy who might just have the balls to do it -- and this was LONG before he became a Cup owner -- was Tony Stewart. Sadly, Tony is now part of the NASCAR establishment, running a team while suffering through his final days as a top racer and having to deal with nuisance off-track issues. I'd still love to see somebody with lots of money (pick any driver or owner) tell NASCAR to stick this rigged charade up their collective asses and start a new series, running at smaller tracks, perhaps with drivers who can't work their way up the ladder because Kyle F**king Busch just HAS to race in every damn Xfinity & Truck series race.... Maybe that somebody could be Tony Stewart's current employee Kevin Harvick? Or Kurt Busch? Jeff Gordon's about to have a lot of free time on his hands, but he's too much of a corporate shill to ever defy NASCAR. 517. BMan0213 posted: 09.21.2015 - 2:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) @506 ""I wish some of the drivers would take a stand and not race if NASCAR is going to continue to throw questionable cautions" A lot of fans have just quit watching. Various reasons of course, but I think that's a contributing factor. 1.77 overnight TV rating for this race. Down from last year's 2.3 (23%)" While on paper this sounds bad I don't think it's as bad as you think. The race last year was on ESPN which is pretty much carried by almost every basic cable packages. NBCSN not so much. I'm not saying the channel the race is on is 100% responsible for the drop in the ratting, but I do feel the majority of the ratting drop is simply do to fans not having NBCSN not because fans are leaving the sport. 518. 88&4Fan posted: 09.21.2015 - 3:31 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) The pit road speed limit and no racing back to the caution is there for a reason, and a good reason. Other than that I pretty much agree with everything you said though. 519. Tylor Thaber posted: 09.21.2015 - 3:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (4) @516 Don't say Earmhardt's fatal crash brought upon the suckage. You're only gonna attract that disgusting side of the internet that maintains that Sterling Marlin is Adolf Hitler for 'murdering him'. 520. 88&4Fan posted: 09.21.2015 - 4:33 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) No one even mentioned Marlin until you did Tylor 521. Tylor Thaber posted: 09.21.2015 - 4:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Yeah, maybe that was taking it a bit far. But why do you think Earnhardt's death caused the downfall, or at least was around the same time as it? 2002 was a good season...as was 2005. 522. racefangurl posted: 09.21.2015 - 5:25 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) I don't like to see drivers "bashed up", as I call it when someone's hurt bad, like Kyle Busch back in February or anyone that's had a serious injury from a race wreck. However, I do like good racing. That's what the stuff that has little effect on racing quality, like SAFER and all the safety equipment on or in the cars and the helmets and such is for, to prevent injury as much as possible. Kyle hit a non-SAFER protected spot and that contributed to how badly hurt he was. At least, I don't think the kind of seats, seatbelts and helmets used affect the racing too negatively. 523. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.21.2015 - 6:12 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) "Extremely low pit road speed limits" Tell that to Mike Rich, who was hit and killed by a spinning Ricky Rudd in 1990, back when there was no speed limit. "Not racing back to the yellow" Again, in the 1990 Arca Daytona 200, a car plowed into a stopped car which was being attended to by safety crews. Several paramedics were hit and injured. "Yellow line rules" Agree and disagree. It was always cool to see people dive bomb low at Daytona and Talladega, but if taken into the wrong hands, it can start a massive accident if they don't let people off the apron. Harvick giving no room for Johnson coming up the track yesterday is an example of that. Sorry, don't care how detrimental to the racing it is, safety is priority #1. 524. Cooper posted: 09.21.2015 - 6:27 pm Rate this comment: (2) (2) NASCAR control tower: "We're hearing there is debris in Turn 4" Drivers: "There is no debris, track is clean" NASCAR control tower: "Are you sure guys? cause it definately looks like there is something on the track." Drivers: "NO! There is nothing on the track except for pavement!" NASCAR control tower: "You heard them guys, flash the lights." "Caution for pavement all over the track!" 525. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.21.2015 - 6:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Otherwise I agree with mostly everything else. Does anyone know who started the CART-IRL split in 1996? Maybe they could do something if they wanted to. NASCART's (see what I did there?) best days are mostly behind them. 526. MAR posted: 09.21.2015 - 6:34 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) @524 LMAO @Big Mac Fan it was Tony George but he had that power because his family owned and operated Indy so it was easier to to do they took the race with all the prestige. For someone to start their own major stock car series to compete against NASCAR would be 100x harder since NASCAR owns 80% of the schedule including the Daytona 500 so it wouldn't be a easy task. 527. Scott B posted: 09.21.2015 - 6:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The only person I think could pull off a split would be Roger Penske, but he doesn't seem that unhappy with the current state of NASCAR. 528. Premium Doesn't Suck 62 66 94 98 posted: 09.21.2015 - 7:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) One more sponsor update: #27 Pittsburgh Paints/Menards/Kwikset 529. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.21.2015 - 8:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) In regards to the Earnhardt debate, I think his death both helped and hurt NASCAR. It hurt because NASCAR lost one of the greatest drivers of all time. But at the same time, it helped safety innovations take place and in a way, it actually gained fans. People who weren't fans of NASCAR at the time wanted to see what was so special about this Earnhardt guy and I think people started tuning in more. And NASCAR has had some great seasons post-Earnhardt. 2001, 2002 and 2005 come to mind. I think the main downfall of NASCAR was the constant changes to the rules, the CoT (I find the Gen 4 car much more suitable for racing, but like I said, safety first), and the questionable cautions. Also, looking back at the race, DiBenedetto did hit the wall. Probably could have gotten by without a caution, but at least it was legit, unlike a lot of posters, including myself, thought at the time. 530. 88&4Fan posted: 09.21.2015 - 8:35 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) IMO the racing actually was still on the rise after Earnhardt's death, 2002-2006 (and the 2007 races when there was no CoT) were all great seasons. Then I think the CoT really started ruining things and the Gen6 is good but the competitiveness that 2002-2007 had is gone. For instance, it wasn't uncommon in the early to mid 2000s for someone out of the pack for a team like MBV Motorsports or Bill Davis Racing to have a race where they run up front all race long, lead a bunch of laps, and finish in the top five. Now you never see that because NASCAR is dominated by a few big teams. 531. STATMAN posted: 09.22.2015 - 12:08 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) One of only 8 Sprint Cup races that everyone finished (No DNF's) 1959 Music City 200 (Nashville) 12 Cars 1995 Tyson Holly Farms 400 (North Wilkesboro) 37 Cars 1996 Tyson Holly Farms 400 (North Wilkesboro) 36 Cars 2007 Sylvania 300 (Loudon) 43 Cars 2008 Chevy Rock & Roll 400 (Richmond) 43 Cars 2013 Crown Royal Presents The Samuel Deeds 400 (Indianapolis) 43 Cars 2015 Auto Club 400 (Fontana) 43 Cars 2015 MyAFibRisk.com 400 (Chicago) 43 Cars It is also the first time in NASCAR history that it has happened twice in one season 532. Nu3clear Wa4le posted: 09.22.2015 - 10:12 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsor updates #4 - Jimmy John's "Freaky Fast!" #31 - Caterpillar (spelling error) 533. Accutech posted: 09.22.2015 - 3:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsor update: #18 M&M's Crispy 534. Lucstar88 posted: 09.22.2015 - 4:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Also, looking back at the race, DiBenedetto did hit the wall. Probably could have gotten by without a caution, but at least it was legit, unlike a lot of posters, including myself, thought at the time." I just don't like the fact that they never show anything. After the same exact thing happened at Fontana to the same guy! That's why lots of people got pissed including myself. The history with NASCAR with these debris caution is so inconsistent, that how can you tell if there is legit debris. Like i wanna watch NHIS but if this becomes more of a theme. I just can't go on like this. 535. racefangurl posted: 09.22.2015 - 5:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) You can always find debris on the track if you look hard enough. Don't people throw water bottles on the track? I've seen bottles laying on the track. 536. Spen posted: 09.22.2015 - 6:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Incidentally, Hamlin's win officially makes him the Virginian with the highest win total in Cup history. 537. Eric posted: 09.22.2015 - 7:08 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Dale's death actually hurt NASCAR than losing one of its greatest drivers of all time. What I think people forgot is Dale Sr. actually was the spokesperson aka voice of the garage for the drivers in the garage that talked to the Management of NASCAR. Everything that I heard about Dale Sr. off the track was he made sure NASCAR was in right direction was known to take to Bill France Jr. on Mondays even. Dale was not a yes man at all unlike Jeff Gordon as an example. After Dale died, the drivers in the garage really didn't take the place of him for being a mouthpiece for the drivers to NASCAR Management for a long time. Jeff Gordon never that leader, Dale Jarrett wasn't, or Jeff Burton for that matter. What happened was NASCAR Management was able to do anything they want without being afraid of being questioned basically for a time and that did hurt NASCAR since Brian France, and NASCAR management was making bad decisions that actually hurt NASCAR. NASCAR even made sure after Dale's death that voice was limited by fining drivers for speaking their minds about the car. 538. Ernest T. posted: 09.22.2015 - 7:28 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Eric hit the nail completely on the head. That's exactly what I meant when I said Dale Sr.'s death initiated NASCAR's decline. It wasn't necessarily evident right away, but I believe that NASCAR wouldn't have tried as much of their twerpish monkeying around if Sr. were alive. I'd like to think, had he survived, that Earnhardt Sr. would not have gone the same way as other formerly "outspoken" drivers who turned into complete shills and yes-men when they retired and somebody put a microphone in front of them. (looks at Dale Jarrett and Rusty Wallace) So that even when Earnhardt was no longer an active driver he might have still held considerable influence and respect in the garage as an owner. 539. cjs3872 posted: 09.22.2015 - 7:30 pm Rate this comment: (3) (1) And, racefangurl, there are times when NASCAR doesn't take action when there's obvious debris on the track. Case in point, the recent XFinity Series race at Richmond. Anyone watching that race saw a significant piece of debris in the middle of the backstretch during a green flag run of some size, yet the caution was never thrown for it. But what happened at Chicago was, in my opinion, an obvious case of NASCAR throwing a phantom caution because they wanted to bunch up the field for the finish. At the time that caution was thrown, Kurt Busch had a 4 second lead over second place with 10 laps remaining, and was steadily pulling away. They didn't want a dull race in the Chase opener (and the race was just that) climaxed by a runaway finish. So they indiscriminately threw the caution with 10 laps remaining just to get an exciting finish. What happened to the days when, with 10 laps or fewer remaining, you just let the race play out and only threw the caution when it was absolutely necessary. And by the way, on the Kevin Harvick-Jimmie Johnson incident early in the race, I lay no blame at Johnson (and got grilled by one user on Twitter for expressing that). The reason is obvious. Kevin Harvick threw a vicious block on Johnson on that restart when it was unnecessary and Johnson had every right to the inside, as he was far enough alongside Harvick. And any time you throw such a block, especially so early in the race, you have to understand and expect the possible ramifications, which in this case, was Johnson not giving when he didn't have to. And then on top of it, Harvick compounded his own mistake by not pitting, which is why he crashed. As far as I'm concerned, Johnson could have spun out Harvick in front of the entire field, and it would not have been his fault. When he was a commentator, Bobby Unser frequently commented about making too big of an issue of a position so early in the race, and that's what Harvick was guilty of there. There are times when you have concede and give up the spot, and Harvick didn't do that when he should have. I also think that Harvick needs to quit running his mouth and let his car do the talking for him, because he seemed obsessed with making a point, especially to the JGR organization that he forgot the biggest fundamental of racing. You actually have to finish the race, and he failed to do so with a completecar because of his own stupidity. 540. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.22.2015 - 7:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yeah, definetly forgot about that. You could probably make the argument that the chase wouldn't exist if Earnhardt was here. 541. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.22.2015 - 7:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) cjs3872, Exactly. Like I said with the yellow line rule, Harvick should have abided and let Johnson back into line. Johnson was forced down and there could have been a huge wreck if Johnson didn't force his way in there. So his crash was mostly of his own making. And I'm saying this as a huge fan of Harvick. 542. Diehard11Fan posted: 09.22.2015 - 8:10 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I'm a Denny Hamlin fan and I even disagree with how this race ended. Denny Hamlin did not win this race, trophy should go to NASCAR who determined the outcome. Denny was nowhere near winning this until NA$CAR jumped in scripting the finish ..I hate people who control NA$CAR for this reason. You guys SUCK! NASCAR is WWE 543. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.22.2015 - 9:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And let's be honest: NASCAR will only throw a "debris" caution when it is in their favor to throw one. That's why you see caution for no debris and no cautions for debris. A small slap on the wall by Dibenedetto, while legit, gave the perfect opportipunity to make an excuse to throw the caution, as its obvious they wanted one. "I'm a Denny fan and I even disagree with how this race ended." Same, I'm a Denny fan to some extent and he wouldn't have won if they threw the caution. I'm almost convinced that NASCAR will do anything to keep Kurt Busch from a win. Fontana was strike one. This is strike two. Three strikes and you're out. 544. BMan0213 posted: 09.22.2015 - 9:03 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) "cjs3872, Exactly. Like I said with the yellow line rule, Harvick should have abided and let Johnson back into line. Johnson was forced down and there could have been a huge wreck if Johnson didn't force his way in there. So his crash was mostly of his own making. And I'm saying this as a huge fan of Harvick." Disagree completely. Harvick did nothing wrong in the spot. Jimmie went all the way down there after he was hit by Joey. Harvick didn't even really throw a block. His car was only half over the white line and that was well after Jimmie was below the apron. Since you bring up the yellow line rule, if you watch Plate races when you are forced under the yellow line the driver under the line always lets up and drops back. That's what Jimmie should have done even if it cost him a ton of spot. Had this happen with 5 to go I would be fine with the move Jimmie pulled, but at just past half way he had no business doing what he did. 545. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.22.2015 - 9:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Meant to say if they hadn't thrown the caution. My bad. 546. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.22.2015 - 9:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @544 Since you brought up plate races, I was referring to before 2001, when there was no yellow line. If a person dived to the apron on the straightaway, the person on the inside would usually have to give them room before they reached the turn, since Chicagoland has no out of bounds line, this is what I was referring to. And Harvick didn't "block" Johnson. He just gave him little to no room. While we differ in opinion, contact of some sort was most likely going to happen so it would probably in best interest to give at least some room if possible since they were approaching the turn. 547. 88&4Fan posted: 09.22.2015 - 9:26 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Tony Stewart seems to be another driver who is becoming a NASCAR servant after once being one of the more outspoken drivers. And that is really unfortunate. 548. BMan0213 posted: 09.22.2015 - 9:33 pm Rate this comment: (1) (4) That's the thing though, contact shouldn't of happen. Harvick didn't give Johnson room because he didn't think Johnson would be dumb enough to come back on track when you did. Forcing your way back on the track with half the race to go isn't what you do when there's still half the race to go. Harvick's other options to let off the gas he gets run into by Joey and they wreck. If he moves up the track he either gets into Kyle or he slides back to 15th like Jeff did when Denny put him in that situation at the end of the race. Jimmie should have just dropped back he probably wouldn't have even dropped that many spots given Jr. was right behind him and probably would have let him in. Running into Harvick was the wrong choice and I wouldn't be shocked if Jimmie gets eliminated early from the Chase because of it. 549. racefangurl posted: 09.22.2015 - 10:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Cjs, those of us that were around here last year noticed your absence and some of the others tried to guess why. Like when Carl Edwards won that race, thoughts turned to what you might say about it. 550. cjs3872 posted: 09.22.2015 - 11:03 pm Rate this comment: (1) (2) There's one hole in that theory BMan0213, and that's the fact that Kyle Busch wasn't anywhere near Harvick when Harvick came down and stayed down, so if he had moved up, there would have been no contact, and he probably wouldn't have strayed back any worse than about fifth or sixth. But by giving Johnson no room at all to come back, he basically caused his own problem. And by the way, Johnson had nowhere to go because Joey Logano was right behind Harvick, so there was no room in between Harvick and Logano, and there was a turn coming up. But Harvick had an arrogant and confrontational attitude all weekend long, going back to his comments about beating the Joe Gibbs Racing team, so it was almost inevitable that Harvick was going to get into a confrontation with someone, and that someone happened to be Jimmie Johnson. And on that final restart when Jeff fell back. That was a situation where Jeff was really in jail on that final restart. First, he was second, so he did not control the restart, something that almost inevitably leads to spinning the tires, especially considering he was on old tires. He was also on the lower grove, which on a high-speed, is easily the worst line to be in because of how aerodynamics is such a player. And then, he was also in a position where he had to worry about cars going under him, and that all came home to roost. In fact, once he saw Kurt not come in, it might have been wise for him to pit because of being faced with that very predicament, as well as the disadvantage of being on older tires back in traffic. So the fact that he fell back to the next-to-last position on the lead lap should not be a surprise at all, especially given the fact that he almost wrecked on the final restart due to all those factors. 551. cjs3872 posted: 09.22.2015 - 11:08 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) When Edwards won that race at Darlington, racefangurl, I went to Twitter and not only congratulated him on the victory, but also admitted that I was wrong about him not being able to measure up to the big occasion, because that win gave him half of NASCAR's Grand Slam for 2015, having already won the Coca-Cola 600, as well as the fact that I'm not above being proven wrong, and he's certainly done that in 2015, as it comes to his ability to perform on the biggest stages. And he had to earn that victory in the sport's toughest event by outrunning both Denny Hamlin and that race's most dominant driver, Brad Keselowski. 552. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.22.2015 - 11:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @551 Either way this has been a very odd year in terms of crown jewel races. Logano won his first, but then Carl Edwards and Kyle Busch, drivers who don't have many crown jewel wins, win the other 3. 553. racefangurl posted: 09.22.2015 - 11:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Cjs, I was proven wrong last November, but it was a Nationwide (now Xfinity) situation. Now, I don't have irrational theories like I did last summer and fall. 554. cjs3872 posted: 09.23.2015 - 1:14 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) @552, extending that theme, it's been an odd and historic year for the big events across the sporting world. Joey Logano became the second-youngest Daytona 500 winner ever, Juan Montoya shatters the record by winning his second Indianapolis 500 15 years after his first, horse racing gets it's first Triple Crown winner since 1978, a 21-year old named Jordan Spieth sets record after record at The Masters, becoming it's second-youngest winner, and then backs it up at the U.S. Open, becoming that event's youngest winner since 1923, and to top it all off, Serena Williams comes within two matches from winning tennis' first Grand slam since 1988, and only it's seventh overall. Even the NBA champion ended up being a once-moribund franchise that the NBA hadn't crowned as it's champion since 1975. 555. 23andJoe posted: 09.23.2015 - 1:37 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Meanwhile: who here remembers Chris Horn from a few years back in the Truck Series? He's now racing IMCA dirt cars in Iowa. 556. joey2448 posted: 09.23.2015 - 2:55 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) As odd as it has been watching drivers like Logano, Edwards and Kyle Busch win the crown jewel races this year, I still say it hasn't been as bewildering as 2011 was, when Trevor Bayne, Regan Smith and Paul Menard all picked up wins in NASCAR's biggest races. For all three of them, it was their first (and so far only) career Cup victory. Even the Coca-Cola 600 that year featured a wild finish, even though a frequent winner, Harvick, came out with the win. By the way, speaking of Harvick, I seriously don't believe he is out of the Chase picture for one second, even if he fails to win one of the next two races. He only has to beat four other Chase drivers to make it to the next round, and more than likely, those drivers will be Menard, Bowyer, McMurray and Gordon, all drivers that Harvick can pick up enough points to beat in a two-race span. I'm not worried (although I do hope Gordon makes it, which contradicts what I just said, lol). 557. WinstonCupStandings posted: 09.23.2015 - 3:16 am Rate this comment: (2) (3) Top 19 (that are on the big teams) 1) Kevin Harvick (4049) -Leader 2) Joey Logano (3994) -55 3) Dale Earnhardt, Jr. (3760) -289 4) Brad Keselowski (3716) -333 5) Jimmie Johnson (3632) -417 6) Matt Kenseth (3567) -482 7) Denny Hamlin (3482) -567 8) Ryan Newman (3344) -705 9) Kurt Busch (3332) -717 10) Carl Edwards (3290) -759 11) Jamie McMurray (3238) -811 12) Jeff Gordon (3222) -827 13) Clint Bowyer (3112) -937 14) Paul Menard (3076) -973 15) Aric Almirola (3037) -1012 16) Kasey Kahne (2973) -1076 17) Kyle Larson (2815) -1234 18) Greg Biffle (2766) -1283 19) Austin Dillon (2672) -1377 -Out 558. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.23.2015 - 11:14 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) joey2448, Harvick is pretty much safe in the chase assuming nothing goes wrong. He's shown that he can get top 5's easily while the others can hardly get top 15's. I wouldn't be so sure about Gordon being out of it. That was easily his most impressive run all year, even though the finish didn't show for it. I hope Gordon make it as well. 559. Zackary Shawn posted: 09.23.2015 - 2:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Do murb, The Long Shot, cjs, and NicoRosbergFan (aka Hinch7) still post here? I feel like the old guard, myself included, is slowly dying out. 560. Alex posted: 09.23.2015 - 2:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) ^I still post, but only in the historical sections and making race predictions over in the Fantasy sections. 561. Zackary Shawn posted: 09.23.2015 - 2:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Oops. Didn't see the cjs and murb posts earlier in the thread. My bad. 562. 88&4Fan posted: 09.23.2015 - 2:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) murb, cjs, and Long Shot still post here, and Hinch does the fantasy challenge but I haven't seen any posts on race or driver pages from him. 563. cjs3872 posted: 09.23.2015 - 3:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I just returned to the boards here, Zack. I left mainly because this site caused my internet connection to freeze, so I had no choice. My computer's since been fixed (though not very well, as some programs that worked perfectly then don't work at all now, and even my DVD drive doesn't work), which has allowed me to return here. My return to this site was the blog post called "The Biggest NASCAR Story Nobody's Talking About", which deals with Jeff Gordon tying Ricky Rudd's record for consecutive starts last week, and breaking it this coming weekend, and the stunning lack of coverage of it. 564. Lucstar88 posted: 09.23.2015 - 3:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bowyer docked 25 points for illegal trackbar found on opening day inspection. 565. Anonymous posted: 09.23.2015 - 3:57 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Bowyer cheating again... tsk tsk 566. RaceFanX posted: 09.23.2015 - 6:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Do murb, The Long Shot, cjs, and NicoRosbergFan (aka Hinch7) still post here? I feel like the old guard, myself included, is slowly dying out." I always get left out of these things... 567. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.23.2015 - 6:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Hey Logano took the points lead in the real standings today." This is yet another problem I have with the chase. If this was the non-chase points, we would be talking about how Harvick's once great lead has been erased after his crash at Chicagoland. We would be talking if this means that Harvick has lost the momentum and if Logano would hold on, be a challenge, or pull away in the points. But no, instead his entire title hopes could be completely dimished because of the points reset. The regular season had just as much, if not more, excitement than most fans, Er, NASCAR, would believe. "Bowyer docked 25 points for illegal track bar found on opening day inspection." Trackgate! I think we know now who will be eliminated this round. 568. racefangurl posted: 09.23.2015 - 11:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 559, The Long Shot occasionally posts around here. 569. Ryan W posted: 09.24.2015 - 1:33 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Agree with BMan0213 about Harvick-Johnson incident... Johnson definitely didn't have to come up the way he did and bang into Harvick like that. He could have eased up some and got back in line. If Logano was there then Johnson could have banged into him instead because Logano was the one who started it! Harvick had a good restart and there was no reason for Logano to be bumping Johnson like they were at Talladega or Daytona off the restart like that and for Johnson to bang into Harvick's side like that. I don't see how Harvick's "attitude all weekend" contributed to Logano doing what he did and then Johnson smacking Harvick like he did? The way he raced and off that restart had nothing to do with what he said about JGR. It was Logano and Johnson taking Harvick out of contention. 570. racefangurl posted: 09.24.2015 - 2:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (3) HarvICK! He's a hothead! 571. cjs3872 posted: 09.24.2015 - 7:37 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Ryan W, what I was saying about Harvick's attitude may not have had anything to do with the incident between him and Jimmie Johnson, but it was obvious to me that, at some point in the race, he was going to get in it with somebody, because his attitude that entire weekend was too edgy and arrogant for someone racing for a championship at the beginning of the Chase. It might simply be a case of not being able to win, and constantly getting beat by Joey Logano's #22 Team Penske Ford and the Joe Gibbs Racing team finally got the best of him, and what we saw was a case of months of frustration building up. This has been a constant theme for Harvick since the very beginning of the season, when he finished second in the Daytona 500. We saw it when Harvick ran out of gas on the final turn at Loudon and took a cheap shot attempt to crash Logano by ramming him in the final turn, and I think we saw it rise to the surface again at Chicago with the incident with Johnson. Months of frustration finally boiled over, and what happened after the race between Harvick and Johnson was more a result of that than even the incident during the race. 572. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.24.2015 - 8:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick ran out at Watkins Glen, not New Hampshire. As for drivers that are the opposite of yes men, I think the biggest one that comes to mind is Kurt Busch. Combined with his unique personality, NASCAR has screwed him out of several wins and nearly a ride all in one season. I highly doubt he would become NASCAR's yes man. 573. cjs3872 posted: 09.25.2015 - 11:33 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Thanks for correcting my error, Big Mac Fan. It was at Watkins Glen where Harvick ran out of fuel on the last lap. But yet, instead of accepting defeat, he tried to block, and then wreck Logano coming off the last turn. 574. Cornys posted: 09.25.2015 - 3:34 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) I don't think Harvick was trying to wreck Logano in the final turn at Watkins Glen. I think he was trying to carry as much momentum as he could through that corner, because he was out of gas. Logano took a different angle through the corner because he had fuel in the tank to power off the corner. 575. racefangurl posted: 09.25.2015 - 4:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Some folks call him Have-a-Wreck, but Cornys might be right. Hard to know. 576. 88and4fan posted: 09.25.2015 - 4:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick did not try to wreck Logano, he was out of gas and Logano was going by too fast for Harvick to know which was Logano was going to go. That isn't true at all. Although after the BS Logano pulled on the restart last week, I wouldn't mind seeing Harvick give him a taste of his own medicine. 577. Big Mac Fan posted: 09.25.2015 - 7:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I mostly agree with Cornys, considering Harvick was out of gas, he wouldn't have had the speed to get to Logano's bumper. 578. Maverick11 posted: 03.20.2016 - 12:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) RCR's 1000th top 10. 579. Rich posted: 12.12.2020 - 9:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Rick Allen, Jeff Burton and Steve Letarte were the commentators. Marty Snider, Mike Massaro, Kelli Stavast and Dave Burns were the pit road reporters. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Post a comment:* Your comment may not appear immediately - all comments must be approved by the moderator. Name: Comment: