|| *Comments on the 2015 CampingWorld.com 500:* First Page | Previous Page | Next Page | Last Page | View All On One Page View the most recent comment | Post a comment <#post> 1. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.24.2015 - 6:48 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) Cue the conspiracies saying that NASCAR rigged this for Hendrick. 2. Wake Up Sheeple posted: 10.24.2015 - 6:50 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) NASCAR rigged qualifying so that Gordon could win the pole in his final restrictor plate race. Look at how much faster he was than his teammates, people! Open your eyes! Now I need to go find my tin-foil hat so the government can't monitor my thoughts... 3. racefangurl posted: 10.24.2015 - 6:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Even the TEB drivers have a chance. They just need to avoid The Big One and any other trouble. 4. Anonymous posted: 10.24.2015 - 6:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Rigged the qualifying? At a plate track where it could hardly matter less? Let's see them do the finish, if they're going to bother rigging anything. That might be easy anywhere except a plate track, where it's still possible but just more difficult. 5. Schroeder51 posted: 10.24.2015 - 6:55 pm Rate this comment: (1) (3) Post #2 was me in case everyone was wondering. Thought I'd go ahead and get a paranoid conspiracy comment out of the way just in case we get flooded with them...Hey, enough people believe that NASCAR rigged the '01 Pepsi 400 so Junior could win the first race at Daytona after his father's death there to this day that it doesn't really surprise me the conspiracy types would probably jump all over this... This is gonna be a bit of a nail-biter of a race considering how damned close some of the drivers are around the cut line for the next round. Like several other people mentioned last week, I can't help but get the feeling the difference between who gets in and who gets left out is very likely going to be determined by the crews in the garage area after a big crash... 6. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.24.2015 - 7:08 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Anyways, I've been excited for this race for several weeks with so many stories. Gordon in his last restrictor plate race, Kenseth and Jr. needing to win to advance, and just the fact that it's a race at Dega, where any car can win and where anything can happen. Can't wait for tomorrow. 7. Nascar Lead Lap Points posted: 10.24.2015 - 7:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsor Update #46 PJ Fresh/Flying J 8. MAR posted: 10.24.2015 - 7:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Annett DNQ lol I bet he tries to buy his way in the race. 9. MAR posted: 10.24.2015 - 7:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Timmy Hill deserve's a shout out good job 10. Schroeder51 posted: 10.24.2015 - 7:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ^He actually managed to make the race on speed alone, outqualifying more than a dozen other cars. For Premium Motorsports, that is actually pretty impressive... This is going to be his first start in a plate race in Cup where he isn't planned to S&P (He made the 2012 fall race in a second NEMCO car and pulled it in after 8 laps). 11. Sarf52 posted: 10.24.2015 - 7:43 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) You guys all hate on Timmy Hill but he isn't really too bad, and if you peep his Nationwide results at plate tracks he actually has a few T-10's. He also ran well in the Truck race today. 12. MarkMartinFan posted: 10.24.2015 - 8:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think Timmh Hill catches a lot of heat because of the terrible equipment he drives. Especially in Cup when it seems he's blowing up every week and won't get off the track to avoid laying oil down. He might be good in some good equipment, but who wouldn't? Still, he's not a superstar but he isn't terrible. 13. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.24.2015 - 8:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) First year since 2001 where Aaron's didn't sponsor one of the races at Talladega. 14. Anonymous posted: 10.24.2015 - 8:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @#8 will probably try to buy the 33 ride again like they did at atlanta, if they dont I will be very surprised 15. racefangurl posted: 10.24.2015 - 9:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 12, I give the Terrible Equipment Brigade the benefit of the doubt. I agree with you about Timmy Hill perhaps not being terrible since it's hard to judge a driver when his equipment is terrible. 16. Anonymous posted: 10.24.2015 - 9:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @14 https://twitter.com/knighter01/status/658048692956590082 Prepare to be surprised then 17. 88&4Fan posted: 10.24.2015 - 10:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Well like I said on Gordon's page, I personally think that the pole was highly suspect. But I'm going to move on and agree to disagree because I'm not the kind of person who likes having pointless arguments. That being said... Go JR! 18. AutoRockinRacing94 posted: 10.25.2015 - 12:16 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Annett DNQ's and they're considering Allgaier being the one out in HScott? 19. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 12:21 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Annett DNQ's and they're considering Allgaier being the one out in HScott?" NASCAR is a cruel business to make it in. 20. BMan0213 posted: 10.25.2015 - 12:28 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Let's be honest Allgaier is the real winner in all of this. Xfinity ride at JRM > Cup ride at HScott. He's gonna have a real shot at winning a championship in that equipment next year. 21. Anonymous posted: 10.25.2015 - 1:40 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) ^ Agreed. I'm starting to think Annett is stuck at HScott because no one else wants him. At least Allgaier gives a team some on track value for the sponsorship he brings. 22. Thomas posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:31 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bold Prediction (not saying I'm hoping for this, but my gut says it happens): There will be a Big One (not necessarily The Biggest One of the race) of at least 10 cars in the first 50 laps that will involve at least 4 of those fighting to advance in the Chase. 23. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 10:43 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Here's my bold predictions: There will be 2 big ones, including one on the last lap, and an underdog will win the race. 24. Lucstar88 posted: 10.25.2015 - 10:58 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hendrick will be the team to beat, all in the top 5. This could be like Daytona 2014 where they help themselves get Gordon in or Earnhardt win. We're going to have a big one, because NOBODY is safe in points, except Logano. Kyle Busch last year was 33 to the good, and got in a wreck and got eliminated. Someone will try to make a really risky move, and won't succeed. I just hope if we do have a big one, that's it won't be catchfence bad. 25. Premium Doesn't Suck 62 66 94 98 posted: 10.25.2015 - 11:10 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsor updates: #46 PJ Fresh Pizza/Pilot Flying J #23 Overture Promontional Product Agency 26. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 11:26 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) WOO! Gon' watch me a Junior win today! 27. Destroyahirismix666 posted: 10.25.2015 - 11:27 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) As opposed to the (Overall) calm race yesterday, I actually will put money down and say that this will be much more intense. It will be filled with hardcore racing for the first 80 percent, like what we have seen at Tally for the last few years, with a medium-sized crash sometime in the second quarter of the event. Everything will start to head toward a single file finish, but NASCAR will throw a caution (Not sure if it will be needed or not) that will force the field to bunch up, and in the process, will cause a large late race crash. 28. MAR posted: 10.25.2015 - 11:53 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) I can bet the 50 laps of this race will have some of us on life support. 29. MAR posted: 10.25.2015 - 11:54 am Rate this comment: (2) (0) Bold prediction Landon Cassill wins today. 30. JHN#8 posted: 10.25.2015 - 12:40 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Landon winning would be freaking awesome!! I do believe that a non chaser will win, and this it'll be someone getting their first win. Now I'd love to see Ragan win again, but seeing Landon, Gilly, Stenhouse, or someone like that winning, would be pretty damn cool.. 31. 28DaveyAllison28 posted: 10.25.2015 - 12:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Comment #30: That would be great but NASCAR will find a way to ruin a great race at the end of this one too with its stupid polices & produrces they have in place. Wait & see if I'm not right 32. Premium Doesn't Suck 62 66 94 98 posted: 10.25.2015 - 1:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Bold prediction: Trevor Bayne, Kyle Larson or Jimmie Johnson causes the big one. 33. Eric posted: 10.25.2015 - 1:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @31, it is clear to me that you think drivers should race the final laps of a race with wrecks around them or have a race finish under green conditions even if takes over 5 hours after the starts for Talladega. Remember, the Truck series races had truck wreck before taking the final lap around the track. The truth is Daytona and Talladega are capable of taking over 5 hours if there is an infinite amount of green white checkers. NASCAR cut the amount of Green White checker attempts due to trying to cut down the amount of carnage and have a less of an attempt of cars flying due. The Austin Dillon wreck at Daytona forced NASCAR's hand for rule changes for Daytona and Talladega. 34. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 1:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Here are my picks for who misses the next round: Matt Kenseth Kyle Busch Martin Truex, Jr. (sadly) Kurt Busch Dale Jr. wins his way in. 35. BMan0213 posted: 10.25.2015 - 1:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "The Austin Dillon wreck at Daytona forced NASCAR's hand for rule changes for Daytona and Talladega." I'd agree with that if it wasn't for the fact Austin's wreck happened at the end of the first GWC attempted... Changing the rule was a 100% knee jerk reaction by NASCAR. All week they've been preaching one GWC would be safer and make it less likely for a wreck to occur. The Trucks proved yesterday that was not the case by only managing to go half a lap before wrecking and ending the race. 36. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 1:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) NBCSN showing driver intros. Wow. 37. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jr. is driving the Dew car. Don't get your hopes up. 38. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Its just a paint scheme... 39. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Engines are fired. Lets do this Jr! 40. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:25 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Truex's qualifying time was disallowed because he went below the yellow line during it. I was about to say, why was he starting last? 41. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I feel bad for Truex, I never even heard of that rule until when they announced he would be disallowed. But hey its Dega, hopefully he can come back. 42. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I don't get why Truex got DQ'd in qualifying. Isn't the rule no passing below the line? 43. typo posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:29 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Really hope Gordon can end this winless streak and win today! Btw, Has Hendrick ever finished 1 2 3 4 ? 44. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ken Squier is still an announcing God. 45. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) NASCAR basically made up the rule on the spot yesterday. 46. typo posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Lights are out on the pacecar! 47. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) No, no team has finished 1-2-3-4. 48. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Green flag. 49. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Newman voluntarily started last. Odd...Green flag! 50. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Green flag! 51. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Really hope Gordon can end this winless streak and win today! Btw, Has Hendrick ever finished 1 2 3 4 ?" I know they've run 1-2-3 before, but I honestly don't know... Newman voluntarily drops to the rear of the field at the start to try to stay out of trouble. Green flag at Talladega! 52. typo posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (4) Why do assholes dislike comments just because of an opinion? 53. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Already Trevor Bayne gets shuffled out on the outside line. 54. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Gordo leads lap one. 55. TS1420 posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Healthiest looking crowd at Talladega I've seen in a while. 56. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:35 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Kyle Busch is also dropping to the back early on. Thought they said he wasn't going to try that approach after it ended up backfiring on him spectacularly last year... 57. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yeley and Hill are off and into the garage. 58. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well, apparently Hill and Yeley have already pulled off the track? Guess I was wrong about Hill not doing a S&P today... 59. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) WTF Timmah 60. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Apparently Kyle's dropping back was not voluntary; he was shuffled out by his own teammate Edwards. 61. TS1420 posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) NBC stole FOX's Gyro-Cam! 62. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Junior to second. 63. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think a Hendrick car will keep Jr. from winning today. 64. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jr to second. 65. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jr. to the lead. 66. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Junior now moves out front. There's no doubt he's gonna be a major factor for the win, but can he avoid bad luck and stay up front to the end? 67. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jr led a lap though. One point. 68. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin now moves to the point. 69. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Edwards has fallen to the back. 70. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:43 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Jimmie and Bayne trying to start a third lane up top. 71. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Junior alongside Hamlin for the lead again. Jeff Gordon nearly gets squeezed out of line. 72. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 88 retakes the lead. I think a problem he may have is that the car pushing him, aren't as fast as him. 73. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) He cleared him. Now its time to leave them in the dust. 74. Robert posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) For whoever predicted that either Johnson, Bayne, or Larson would start the big one, they're back to back to back in the outside lane. 75. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Uh oh. Get under the yellow line, Timmy. 76. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Apparently Timmah didn't S&P... 77. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin's in the sucker hole. 78. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well, Hill apparently did NOT park, but he lost the draft and is already about to be overwhelmed by the lead group. 79. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Timmy, what are you doing. Timmy, STAHP. 80. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Gordon to the lead, battleing Jr. 81. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Timmy tried to go up high to get out of the way. Hamlin momentarily got caught behind him and has dropped back in the lead pack. 82. Chives5150 posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:47 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Timmeh's so silly. 83. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) According to NASCAR.com, Yeley is 3 laps behind, and Hill is 8 laps down. 84. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jr. is now leading a 5 car train. Hendrick 1-4. 85. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The Hendrick brigade now runs 1-2-3-4. 86. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hendrick is single file with the top 4 spots. 87. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) After a short scare from Hamlin, the Hendrick team photo is back in place. 88. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hendrick 1-2-3-4 led by Jr. 89. MAR posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Interesting Hendrick 1-4 90. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The pack is beginning to break up. 91. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) McDowell up in the top 10 early in the race. 92. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Surprised Jr. hasn't brought the lane to the top yet. 93. I Can't Believe Its Not Dennyfan11 posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:53 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Upsets in the top ten: Larson 8th Bayne 9th McDowell 10th 94. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Top 7 are pulling away from the rest of the pack: Junior, Gordon, Johnson, Kahne, Logano, Hamlin, and Kenseth. 95. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:54 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) JoLo, Hamlin, and Kenseth have joined Hendrick and those 7 have gapped about 5-6 car lengths from the field. 96. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) McDowell and DiBenedetto running well so far. 97. Anonymous posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Waltrip is now in the top 20. 98. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It's gotten to the point where Larson is an upset? 99. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Now the pack has caught back up to the top 7. 100. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sounds like Newman's gonna be hanging at the back. Expect this to be a typical Newman race. 101. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Expect this to be a typical Newman race." A race where he is involved in a violent crash and lands on his roof? 102. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Curious question: Why is Wise in the #34 instead of Moffitt? 103. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Or where he shows up out of nowhere and finishes in the top five, is more what I was alluding to. 104. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 2:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I like the chase points ticker they are using. 105. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That Chase pts ledger looks like the late 90s ABC/ESPN leaderboard. 106. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 2 may be leaking. 107. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Oil coming out of the 2 car. Might be bad for them... 108. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kenseth gets shuffled back on the outside. Kyle Busch is reporting oil coming from the #2 of Keselowski. This could be big... 109. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I like that much better than what they did the last few weeks. And now you can have intervals at the same time! What a brilliant idea! 110. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That could be an ISH-SHOE all right 111. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Green flag stops already. 112. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Caution 113. TS1420 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "That could be an ISH-SHOE all right" Keselowski with a PRAWLBLEM? 114. Doug posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:03 pm Rate this comment: (2) (6) This thread is oozing of Youtube and NASCAR.com commenters. EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! 115. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Oh never mind its green flag pit stops. 116. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ^Or not. Green flag pit stops beginning. 117. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:05 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "This thread is oozing of Youtube and NASCAR.com commenters." Would you like to expand on that? 118. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jr. smokes his tires entering pits. Hopefully he wasn't caught speeding. 119. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jr really locked it up. 120. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Looks like there's going to be some pit road penalties. Almriola gets one for speeding coming into the pits. 121. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Seems like some guys took two tires cuz Jr and Gordon are at the back of the pack that they led onto pit road. 122. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jimmie in the lead. Meanwhile Kenseth hit Lolgano entering pit road. Oh the irony. 123. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The Sandman now leads after green flag pit stops. 124. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kenseth gave Logano a love tap coming to the pits. 125. racefangurl posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) This is actually not too bad a race. Someones other than the usual suspects have been up in front. Maybe, something like what comment 30 mentioned will happen. A TEB win would be pretty cool. 126. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kenseth is pissed at Logano after the pit stops... Truex has lost the lead draft. 127. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) McDowell ninth. 128. racefangurl posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (3) 124, if Kenseth did that on track, he could cause the Big One. 129. racefangurl posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Speaking of Kenseth, he crashed his former teammates' party. He was running amongst all the current Roush drivers for a moment. 130. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:12 pm Rate this comment: (4) (1) "124, if Logano did that on track, he could cause the Big One." Just fixed that for you. 131. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Single file racing! Be still, my beating heart... 132. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm fine with this for now, but I hope it isn't a parade for the entire race. 133. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Oh, Jaaaaaaacques? Where aaaaaarrrrreeeee youuuuu??? 134. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Hey its racefangurl's favorite commercial. 135. MAR posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I still feel an upset is coming. 136. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Single file racing! Be still, my beating heart... Lap 50, whatever Lap 180, WTF?!? 137. MAR posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Where is racefangurl 138. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Johnson has trash on his grille. 139. Jimmie Johnson posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm Jimmie Johnson. Boom! Trash on the grille. 140. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin and Logano have made a lane on the bottom. 141. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yaaaaaaaaaay no more single file! 142. Lucstar88 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:19 pm Rate this comment: (3) (3) Kenseth on the radio saying he's going to end the 22. Just because he bumped into him on pit road. He's threatening him now. Act more like a douche Matt. 143. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Line on the bottom led by Hamlin is inching their way towards the front 144. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:20 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) What's new, another possible loose wheel for Dale. 145. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) A bottom lane is beginning to form again. 146. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) I swear, if Jr's pit screw messes this up, I'm going to write an angry letter to Hendrick demanding that they all be fired. 147. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gyro Cam is definitely still a mess. 148. Stewart14rocks posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 60 lap green flag run so far. 149. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ryan Blaney drops down to lead the inside line. 150. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick ducks in front of Hamlin and the inside lane is up to around 5th. 151. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Could we have a caution free race? It's been green a third of the way through. 152. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Don't worry, our imaginary French friend will fix that. 153. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) My bad, it was Blaney. Godd job, Ryan. I assumed the red and white was the 4 car. 154. Anonymous posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) We'd better get the last 40 laps of this thing commercial free. 155. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Could we have a caution free race? It's been green a third of the way through." I give it a 0% chance of happening. Surely a debris caution is gonna show up at some point, I'd be SHOCKED if NASCAR let it run green forever. 156. Benjamin LordLowe posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (5) Single file racing sucks 157. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Truex is 3-4 laps from getting lapped. 158. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Dale Yeah! 159. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Now we have three-wide racing in the pack. 160. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 88 back to the point. 161. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Waltrip is in 9th, while the Hendrick brigade is 1-2-3-4. 162. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Junior is back out in front now. 163. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) As they run now, Harvick would be eliminated. That won't last. 164. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Truex getting lapped now. 165. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Truex is pretty much eliminated. 166. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Larson sure dropped down. Hendrick 1-4 again. 167. Benjamin LordLowe posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:30 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Okay Post 156 was not one of my well thought out nor well timed posts 168. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Menard challenging for the lead according to NASCAR.com. 169. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And now we've got three wide racing all throughout the pack again. 170. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:33 pm Rate this comment: (2) (2) 167- neither has any other post you've made. Seriously all you ever do is whine. You, Mister83, and DaveyAllison28 should all hang out some time. 171. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 88 may have brake issues. 172. racefangurl posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) 134, I don't get NBCSN, so I missed the commercial. 173. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) How about Gilliland mixing it up? 174. typo posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) So many god damn commercials!... 175. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) More green flag pit stops beginning. 176. Benjamin LordLowe posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:37 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) So do you 88&4 fan so do you it's probably why so many people thumb down your posts 177. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:37 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Green flag pit stops again. We are approaching the halfway point and so far, it's been all clean and green. Don't know how much longer that's gonna last... 178. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:37 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Newman pits with AJ as his only help to get to speed. 179. racefangurl posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I don't consider Kyle L an upset. He's not like Michael McDowell. 180. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 88 has massive braking issues today. 181. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Light em up, JR! 182. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Junior locks it up big-time AGAIN coming to the pits. 183. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wow Jr just locked it up again. Almirola too. 184. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) McDowell gets a speeding penalty. 185. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) McDowell gets a speeding penalty. 186. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This is the longest since a caution flag since 2002, where there was no cautions. 187. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:40 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) At least I didn't have to change my name and then back again because people hated me so much on here. 188. Robert posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bobby Labonte in the top 20. 189. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Menard leads after the pit stops. 190. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Menard out front after pit stops. 191. racefangurl posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 174, N(othing) B(ut) C(ommercials) is an NBC joke. So, blame the channel in light of this. 192. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Denny's roof is caved in. 193. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin's car is about to lose a roof flap! 194. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Shouldn't Hamlin be black flagged for the roof hatch slightly open? 195. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin may get black flagged. 196. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wow, problems for Hamlin. That could really hurt his chances. 197. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) They have to come in. His chase chances may be over. 198. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ...I'm not sure I've ever seen this happen to a car before? Hamlin is going to have to come back in. 199. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Grubb just called him in, I think voluntarily. 200. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) They could use bare bond to keep it. 201. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ryan Blaney is now off the track. Aw man, he had a really good run going today... 202. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin always has parts of his car breaking. Driving with his hood on the windshield and now this. Next I assume the entire windshield will break. 203. Anonymous posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The power of restrictor plates! The top-20 doesn't always look like it does today. 204. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The tape is already flying off. 205. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ...Well, that didn't work too well. Already,the tape they put on the flap is already about to come off. 206. TS1420 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That's a new one. 207. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) There is a piece of debris lying below the yellow line on the backstretch. 208. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Debris on the backstretch, I assume the tape, but it's way off the track. 209. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) What happened to Blaney??? 210. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Blaney's engine blew up. 211. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Blakey blows. Nothing new with that team. 212. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And the tape is now about to come off completely. Seriously, I can't remember seeing this ever happening to a car before... Blaney apparently blew up, too bad for him. 213. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And they are pitting AGAIN. Barring something catastrophic, I know who will be eliminated. 214. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Blakey" LOL 215. Sean posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I don't know, wasn't Hamlin in the low 30s with a 10+ point lead over 9th STILL? I think the only way he misses is if one of the four outside wins, and that could happen considering how Junior has run. 216. racefangurl posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) 209, The Wood Brothers had blown engines as a Roush ally, too. Must be something about Roush-Yates engines, which Roush and Penske use. Some things never change, even if the driver and alliance change. 217. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) IAS to the lead. 218. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Roush and Penske haven't blown this many engines this season. 219. Sean posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yeah, Hamlin is in 38th and still 8 points ahead of Truex in 9th. However, if Junior/Kenseth win or Truex/Newman substantially improve their positions, then Hamlin could be out. But it definitely isn't guaranteed, even if he finishes last. 220. RWR posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) +2 laps or more: #33, #83 34 11 +1 lap: #95 78 13 40 7 3 221. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ^He can't finish last because Blaney blew up and dropped out. Bowyer is challenging for the lead on the outside...and now here comes Harvick! 222. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And we're back to three wide through the pack. Harvick leads. 223. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick! 224. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) DiBenedetto has pulled to the garage area. 100 laps of clean green flag racing to start this race off. How much longer is that gonna last, I have no idea... 225. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jr. isn't going to win this, as it sounds like his vibration is worse. 226. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Lots of cars having engine related issues. PLEASE don't let Jr be next. 227. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kasey Kahne is out front now. 228. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 3:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Updated picks for who misses the next round: Hamlin Truex Kyle Busch Kenseth 229. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Is it just me, or does the fan attendance at all tracks this year seem up from last year? 230. edwards19 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (4) I won't watch a race at Talladega anymore if the race goes caution free. 231. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) NBC is gonna jinx it with the amount of times they keep bringing it up how there hasn't been a caution... 232. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:01 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) And right after a short race break, we're back to commercials on NBC. 233. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 110 laps in and still no caution. 234. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:02 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "I won't watch a race at Talladega anymore if the race goes caution free." Oh no! The race went caution free! I didn't get to see a big crash! TALLADEGA IS OFFICIALLY RUINED! ...Are you for real? 235. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:02 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "I won't watch a race at Talladega anymore if it goes caution free?" You're basically saying that you want to see a crash. 236. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jr. slowly worked his way back top the the top 5. 237. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The Hendrick brigade is 1-2-3-4 once again. 238. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Rick Allen just couldn't resist saying "restart" could he? 239. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) What restart, Rick? There's only been one start. 240. TS1420 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:04 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "I won't watch a race at Talladega anymore if the race goes caution free." NASCAR is ruined! A caution free race at Talladega, that has never happened!... 241. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Commercials again??? 242. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Green flag stops coming. Let's see if Jr can get it correct this time........ 243. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:05 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) NBC with their tribute to TNT, interrupting the commercials with 26 seconds of race coverage. 244. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) One thing I can say for certain is that the advertisers are REALLY loving this long green flag run... 245. racefangurl posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This race is crazy! 246. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:05 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Now watch this race go caution free until the last lap, and then one car spins and NASCAR calls the race. 247. TS1420 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:05 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) NBCSports seems to have taken on TNT's old banner of "We Know Commercials" today. 248. OldSchoolNascarDude1 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:06 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) Brian France will command Hoots to throw race officials onto the track if a caution doesn't come out pretty soon. 249. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I would rather watch a race on FOX if there is this many commercials. 250. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin gets lapped again. 251. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:07 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Oh no, not another NASCAR break... 252. TS1420 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kasey Kahne gets to lead the Hendrick Brigade this round? How did that happen? 253. racefangurl posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) 246, And that spin will cause the Big One. 254. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Mears drives through the grass, no caution. 255. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Menard and Mears Pitts. And Mears is in the grass. Caution? 256. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Casey Mears cuts through the grass trying to come to the pits. 257. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think Mears was too fast entering. 258. racefangurl posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 252, anything can happen at 'Dega. 259. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The majority of the field pits. 260. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Everyone pits this lap. No smoke by Jr! 261. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) JR. to the lead! 262. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:11 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @260, he may not have anymore brakes to lock up. 263. racefangurl posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Now what's crazier than Kasey Kahne leading his teammates? How about a Roush leader, like Ricky Stenhouse, Jr.? 264. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) For the first time today Junior does not lock up the brakes coming to the pits, and gets to make a two tire stop. 265. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jr. gets a penalty! 266. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:12 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) GOD DAMNIT!! THIS PIT CREW IS GARBAGE!!!! 267. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:12 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Great job 88 pit SCREW!!! 268. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Penalty 88 Over too soon. 269. typo posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Dale penalized! 270. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And now Junior gets a penalty for his crew jumping over the wall too soon. Oh crap... 271. TS1420 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Caution for sure now. 272. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:13 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) FIRE THEM ALL!! Pit crew has screwed up all year long! 273. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Amen to that Nathan. Greg Ives = Lance McSpew 2.0. 274. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) "WOO! Gon' watch me a Jr. Win!" Don't be so sure about that... 275. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Allgaier also got a penalty. 276. TS1420 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That 88 crew makes the old 4/current 14 crew look like 90's The Rainbow Warriors or 00's Killer Bee's. 277. BMan0213 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Well the 88 penalty pretty much ensures we'll get a yellow at some point 278. Mamorese posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) No way this race goes caution free now with the 88 in trouble 279. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Oh Jacques where the f are you! 280. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Seven car breakaway out front. Wow, we might actually go caution-free...but I'm still not holding my breath on that... 281. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) A perfectly timed commercial to find something/toss something out. 282. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:16 pm Rate this comment: (2) (2) Wow at all of the poster here. This pit crew sucks, they deserve to be fired, etc. Everyone makes mistakes but because it's Jr., they all deserve to be crucified. No one was saying that when Logano's crew messed up at Homestead. 283. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well at least the Redskins won. 284. Anonymous posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (3) "NASCAR is ruined! A caution free race at Talladega, that has never happened!..." Never happened since 2002. 285. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:17 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) 282, it happens every singe f**king race with this pit crew. 286. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hopefully Jr's pit crew gets the same treatment that Logano's did last year at the awards ceremony. 287. racefangurl posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:19 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) 273, maybe Greg Ives needs to go back to the Xfinity series. People say that about bad performing drivers, so why not say it about a bad performing crew chief? 288. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) We are back to single file. Ragan is no longer being scored. 289. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Big Mac the difference is this BS happens to Jr every single race, its always a loose wheel or a vibration or some crap every week. 290. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) David Ragan has been flagged off the track due to leaking oil. 291. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Allgaier blows!!!! 292. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Justin Allgaier blows up! 293. TS1420 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Legit caution. 294. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And we get our caution! But it's actually legit, Justin Allgaier with a BIG-TIME engine failure coming off the second corner. 295. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Truex gets the lucky dog!! Finally. 296. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Truex gets the free pass. 297. Tinfoil Hat Brigade posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:21 pm Rate this comment: (5) (0) NASCAR MADE ALLGAIER BLOW UP TO SAVE JOOOOOOOONNYER! 298. Lucstar88 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Allgaier blows up. Both Jr, are back in the lead lap. 78 LD 299. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) YEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAASSSS!!! (Sorry Justin) And Truex is saved too!!! 300. Smiff_2 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yess! Truex will be back on the lead lap! And be ready, folks, because this shit's gonna get turned up to 11 here once we restart... 301. BMan0213 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I never said the yellow would be BS. The racing gods won't allow Jr to get knocked out like that 302. Anonymous posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "NASCAR MADE ALLGAIER BLOW UP TO SAVE TRUUUUUUUUUUEX!' 303. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Allgaier blows" Hey, that isn't very nice. 304. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Thought that was Kahne blowing up. The cars look identical. 305. Sean posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Okay, Truex getting the lucky dog pretty much knocks Hamlin out for sure unless there's a Big One and Hamlin avoids it while a couple others are taken out. 306. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Both Juniors benefit from this caution. Dale Jr. gets to stay on the lead lap and catch up with the pack, and Truex gets his lap back. Pit road is closed this time due to oil cleanup. 307. racefangurl posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:24 pm Rate this comment: (1) (4) Now the only way all the Roushskateers could be ahead of Jr. is times like this, when he's had a penalty. 308. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Anyone else think that Allgaier blowing up might have been from Bowyer slamming the front of his car in qualifying? 309. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin's crew is trying to finally fix that roof damage. 310. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The field is coming to pit road this time! 311. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 308- Never thought about that but now that you bring it up... 312. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Allmendinger stalls on pit road. 313. MAR posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Why the hell does allgaier always blow up 314. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) WTF Dinger 315. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) There's a car sitting stalled in the middle of pit lane. Looks like it could be Allmendinger...and it is. 316. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Rick said Prawblems, dollar in the jar. Some took two, others fuel only. Cole Whitt came out 8th 317. RWR posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) too many cars lapped down. 318. Sean posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Nobody's offended by the Chase ad that is parodying the Pledge of Allegiance? This surprises me. 319. racefangurl posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (3) 318, how unpatriotic! 320. Cumulonimbus posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:30 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Meanwhile the F1 race in Texas has had 4 Safety Car periods. How often does it happen to have more of them than in a NASCAR race? 321. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It's go time for Truex and Dale to get to the front. 322. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 318- Almost all of the NASCAR fan base is American so not really. 323. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:31 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Kurt Busch and David Gilliland both stayed out under the caution. Getting ready for our first restart of the day. Is it just me, or was this the longest green flag run all season? 324. Ernest T. posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) C'mon Newman, KuBu, Truex & Junior!!!! Don't help NASCAR find a way to get Kenseth & Hamlin into the next round! 325. TS1420 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:32 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) "NASCAR MADE ALLGAIER BLOW UP TO SAVE JOOOOOOOONNYER!" 51 has Hendrick engines + Allgaier rumored to JR Motorsports next season + Sunoco Race Fuel can't break steel engines = NASCAR Illuminati confirmed! 326. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Prediction of 4 out (No order). 20 88 11 31 327. TS1420 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:35 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) NASCAR making up for the lack of cautions by making this one super long or what? 328. Anonymous posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Rick Hendrick hit the remote detonator on his rental engine to save Jr. 329. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Back under green. 330. BMan0213 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I honestly think Hamlin is safe. I mean it's only a matter of time until they all start racing like idiots and wreck. with Denny being like three laps down he can just run at the back miss the wreck and pass the guys who are out and he's back in. 331. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:37 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Just noticed Whitt is in the top ten. 332. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Is it just me, or was this the longest green flag run all season?" If it isn't for # of laps, it certainly is # of miles. 333. Anonymous posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Edwards and Kyle Busch are absolute idiots if towards the end they help Kenseth win so he advances. I don't care what team you're on, as a driver you should not help someone who could actually be a serious threat advance, you should do everything in your power to make yourself winning the championship more likely. 334. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bowyer hung out to dry. McMurray cracks the top 5. 335. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Three wide throughout the pack after the restart. 336. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) McMurray with a lovely move that sends Bowyer back to mid-pack. 337. racefangurl posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Cole Whitt is actually half-decent in 12th and Trevor Bayne was right behind him 13th. It didn't all last though. 338. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:41 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) With Truex back on the lead lap and moving up through the field, Hamlin has now fallen below the cut line for the next round. 339. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It's pretty easy to make up laps at Talladega though. In the 2014 Aaron's 499 Jamie McMurray fell 7 laps down and made up 6 via the lucky dog. 340. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That was a cool 4 wide camera. 341. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jr making some bold moves. Already to 5th. 342. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gordon gets shuffled back big time as Junior moves forward. 343. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Edwards can't stay with Jr. 344. racefangurl posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) 338, maybe it won't be an all Gibbs final four. I've thought that all Chase so far. 345. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:45 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Logano push! 346. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 40 to go with Junior on the move on the outside. But Kyle and Harvick move up to try to block him, causing the #4 to get shuffled out. 347. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Busch blocks Jr. as he is now up to 2nd. 348. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick tried to take Jr's lane, but gets pushed back. 349. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:46 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) I think we might be about to see a classic "Kyle Busch causes a wreck by blocking" moment. 350. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Junior to the lead! 351. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Dale Jr. to the lead!! Thank's Logano, that's how you do it. 352. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jr. to the lead. That car is bad fast. 353. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle continues to try to block Junior, but now the #88 manages to sneak around him to take the lead. 354. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:47 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I think Logano is faster than Dale. 355. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The Penske duo is trying to overtake the 88. 356. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This racing reminds me of the early 2000s style Talladega racing. 357. MAR posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jr is working hard today 358. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) There is going to be a crash soon. Logano and Jr. are really going at it. 359. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gordon makes a move to the outside and Logano moves up to block him. 360. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jr needs Gordon and Johnson to pass Logano. 361. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gordon to 2nd. 362. Ernest T. posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Let's go Newman, there's still time but you can't wait forever to move up through the pack. #AllGibbsDriversOUT! 363. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick may be blowing up. Oh boy. 364. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick may be getting ready to blow up. Uh oh... 365. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:51 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Gordon to second. The only thing thats stopping Jr from winning is his pit crew. 366. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick experiencing problems that typically haunt him the past 2 years. 367. Ernest T. posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Aw shit, not Harvick. 368. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Logano shuffles Gordon back on the inside line. 369. racefangurl posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Getting intense. I bet we see the Big One within the next 10-20 laps 370. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Crap, Harvick's blowing up... 371. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sam Hornish in the top 10. 372. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:55 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I do not want Logano in 2nd. They way he races at the finish of races is scary. 373. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This is INTENSE! 374. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 27 laps to go as several guys around the cut line are dropping back. Kyle Busch, Edwards, and Truex are fading back in the pack. 375. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Great runs right now for Gilly and Hornish. 376. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) At the moment, 3 Gibbs cars out. 377. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I wonder why the drivers are waiting to pit with 7 to go. Why not just pit now? 378. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Commercial free the rest of the way. 379. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Keselowski making a move on the outside. 380. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:58 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) As they run, EDWARDS is the only Gibbs car that would advance. 381. Anonymous posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:58 pm Rate this comment: (5) (2) "I do not want Logano in 2nd. They way he races at the finish of races is scary." Would you rather everyone race like Kasey Kahne at the end of races and just let the leader win regardless of who's faster? Logano races to WIN. I'm no fan of his, but I respect him because he actually seems to care about winning, unlike many of the corporate drones in the sport today. 382. Chives5150 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:58 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I would love to see Hornish, Gilliland, and Bayne hook up and plow their way to the front during the last few laps. 383. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I do not want Logano in 2nd. They way he races at the finish of races is scary." If Logano wrecked Junior in the closing stages of this race, I can GUARANTEE you the beer cans will be making their way onto the track... 384. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:59 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) 381, I say that, because I think Logano is faster then Dale. Logano would definitely go all out since he knows he can stay with him. 385. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 4:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I wonder why the drivers are waiting to pit with 7 to go. Why not just pit now? With only 7 to go, you would need maybe a couple seconds of fuel and not have to take tires unless you flatspot getting down to pit speed. Pit now and youneed 5-6 seconds fuel and would likely take 2 tires also. 386. Christian posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (4) My prediction: Gibbs or Penske win as usual. Maybe Johnson. This shit is predictable as f**k. 387. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) All the SHR cars except for Harvick have been invisible today. 388. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Pit stops in 3 laps. 389. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Please let there be a caution before they have to make pit stops. 390. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:01 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Jr., Keselowski, McMurray, Logamo, and Menard are your top 5. 391. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Getting ready to possibly go single-file. Edwards is the first to hit pit road. 392. racefangurl posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) T-Bayne's running his number now. 393. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jr. smokes. God damn it. 394. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jr. locks up his brakes again. 4 tire stop for them. 395. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Junior locks up the brakes AGAIN coming to pit road. Probably gonna cost him the race... 396. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gibbs cars pitting early, only Carl and Matt though. Might be tough to stay on the lead lap. Another smoker for Jr. Needs at least two. 397. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jr lights them up AGAIN. NO! 398. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) It's not all the pit crews fault... 399. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Actually didn't cost him much at all. 400. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) He didn't lose too many spots. 401. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:04 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) "T-Bayne's running his number now." When did he start driving the 34 car? 402. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Carl and Matt gained a BUNCH of spots on this pit cycle. 15 laps remain. 403. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jr. is back to 10th. 404. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) When this filters out, this will be Penske 1-2. And they're single file, go figure. 405. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Cue Jaws music, here's Newman! 406. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Biffle is still out there, but he has to come in soon. And now we go single-file. 407. racefangurl posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) 401, he was 6th at the time of the post. 408. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Don't wait too long Dale. 409. TS1420 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:06 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Biffle somehow wins on fuel mileage with his secret Ford EcoBoost V6 from New Hampshire. 410. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Menard, Jamie, and Newman need to GO 411. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Is Biffle trying to stretch his fuel mileage like New Hampshire? 412. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Man only 1 caution...definetly out of character for Talladega. 413. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:08 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Rick Allen: "When will the guys back in the draft make their move?" ...Based on what we've seen when they go single-file late, I would say lap 188, when it is too late for anyone to do anything. They'll cause a wreck trying to make something happen, and the race is gonna end under caution. Hoping this isn't what happens, but I get a feeling it is.... 414. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) THere he goes! 415. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) pfft, Biffle will long be in Victory Lane by then. 416. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kenseth is working with Junior right now. 417. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:09 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Just imagine if Biffle somehow stretched it out and they forgot he was leading and they declared Logano the winner. That would be hilarious. 418. Chives5150 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:10 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Biffle is trying to save fuel. This is insane. 419. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Dale to 4th. 420. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jr's up to 5th/4th in the pack 421. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) WTF is Biffie doing 422. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bottom line is forming once again. 423. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jack Roush is giving the NASCAR tower a giant middle finger. 424. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:11 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "WTF is Biffle doing" Trying to win the race. 425. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:11 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Junior is up to fifth. But Biffle is 38+ seconds out front and may possibly steal the win on fuel mileage. Would be hilarious if he did! Now they're getting jumbled up in the pack... 426. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Someone's gonna wreck. 427. racefangurl posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Hey Biffle, pit or you'll perhaps run out of gas and that might cause a caution. A stalled car one. 428. Chives5150 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Biffle is 38 seconds ahead of everyone! 429. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Not commenting the last 5 laps. I need to watch it all. 430. New14 & 88 Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If Biffle wins this I'll laugh. 431. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ...is Biffle actually going to catch the lead pack? He's on the same straightaway as them! 432. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Prediction: Biffle runs out and causes a caution. 433. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) McMurray blows. Caution. 434. Chives5150 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) >yfw Biffle coasts to victory all by himself while going 15 mph 435. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) NOOOO 436. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) MacMary, oh no! 437. JG24FanForever posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (3) Such bullshit. Smoke! Caution! 438. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And with five laps to go McMurray blows up! Oh man. Well, this is gonna be a chaotic GWC...There's no way Biffle steals the win now, LOL. 439. New14 & 88 Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Nevermind, McMurray blows up to bring out the caution. 440. Chives5150 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) No, Big Mac! 441. TS1420 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jamie Mac blows up. No EcoBoost V6 victory today. 442. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Dale restarts behind Biffle. That will hurt him. 443. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Another Hendrick engine detonated magically.... 444. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Actually, no he restarts behind Logano. 445. Lucstar88 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) inb4 wreck on the restart kills the finish. 446. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I hope Biffle pulls the same strategy at Homestead. 447. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:16 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) "Such bullshit. Smoke! Caution!" A car just blew up in the middle of the pack and dumped oil all over the racing groove! That caution is such BULLSHIT! They should just let it stay green and see what happens! ...You CANNOT be serious... 448. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Running top 5 with 10 to go and you have problems? Only McMurray... 449. Sean posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ky. Busch tied with Hamlin for the last spot. Gee, what happens THERE? Although Junior will probably win and knock them both out. 450. Howard Salwasser posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Prediction: the big one occurs on the backstretch...on the final lap. 451. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hopefully Biffle runs out under caution. 452. racefangurl posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Both races this weekend will have had a late Big One, if 450's prediction comes true. Crazy. 453. Chives5150 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Biffle will run out on the restart and the rear end of his car will look similar to Kevin Lepage from 2008. 454. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "No Ecoboost V6 Victory today." They're running laps under caution. You never know... 455. joey2448 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:19 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Man, I actually wanted to see that play out under green to see if Biffle could've stolen it with a 30+ second lead. THAT would've been something, lol! 456. Anonymous posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) "Prediction: the big one occurs on the backstretch...on the final lap." And then NASCAR throws a yellow flag while Kenseth and Earnhardt are side-by-side for the win, which will do absolutely nothing to make the racing any safer but will result in one driver winning arbitrarily. 457. JG24FanForever posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (3) "A car just blew up in the middle of the pack and dumped oil all over the racing groove! That caution is such BULLSHIT! They should just let it stay green and see what happens! ...You CANNOT be serious..." Congratulations on being right. It looked like a tire rub to me, especially with the car still running at a descent amount of speed. 458. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Dale passed Brad. Darn. 459. TS1420 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:20 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Prediction: the big one occurs on the backstretch...on the final lap." Behind the pack, and NASCAR calls the race as Jr is trying to take lead denying him of the win and advancing. Talladega is burned to the ground afterwards. 460. Doug posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:20 pm Rate this comment: (1) (7) " 451. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hopefully Biffle runs out under caution. " Go back to Youtube, would ya? 461. RaceFanX posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:21 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Go Biffle! 462. lol posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:21 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Go Biff! 463. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:22 pm Rate this comment: (5) (1) "Go back to YouTube, would ya?" He was saying for him to run out so it doesn't cause a huge crash under green. That was uncalled for. 464. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:22 pm Rate this comment: (2) (2) I'm not even ON YouTube. Unless its to laugh at idiotic comments similar to yours. But okay, believe what you want I guess. 465. Howard Salwasser posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Behind the pack, and NASCAR calls the race as Jr is trying to take lead denying him of the win and advancing. Talladega is burned to the ground afterwards." Good luck with all that! 466. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Fun fact: Hendrick cars have led more than half the distance in all four plate races this year. 467. Doug posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:24 pm Rate this comment: (2) (7) "I'm not even ON YouTube. Unless its to laugh at idiotic comments similar to yours. But okay, believe what you want I guess." YOUR comments lately have been the ones idiotic as those on Ytube. F*ck, YOU were the one saying the sport was rigged for the #24 to win because of qualifying! 468. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:24 pm Rate this comment: (4) (1) I think we've found Biffle16's newest alias. 469. TS1420 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Oh no Biffle's staying out? This race is guaranteed to end under caution as Biffle runs out of fuel at the front of the pack and crashes everybody. 470. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Baffle pitting. Dale restarts to 2nd. 471. TS1420 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Or not. 472. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:26 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) And Biffle comes in as he's low on fuel. LOL, he might have actually made it if they stayed green. Ah well... 473. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Biffle pits! *APPLAUSE from crowd* 474. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Dang 475. New14 & 88 Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Biffle to pit, that Dale Jr. and Logano on the front row. 476. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 467- This coming from a guy who I have never seen comment on this site before. 477. Tylor Thaber posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:27 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @467 Stop crying or keep crying so we can laugh at you. Your choice. 478. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Someone fire up the restart zone presented by FanDuel 479. TS1420 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Mismatched teammates for the restart, this should be interesting. 480. Chives5150 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well, Biffle still technically made it to the advertised distance of 188 laps, right? 481. Conspiracy!!! posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:27 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) NASCAR told Biffle the race would stay yellow until he came to the pits. 482. Sean posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Nah, if 2 caution laps of fuel equals 1 green flag lap, which I think it usually does, Biffle would have run out either way. 483. Doug posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (3) Watch all the Junior fans run together to thumb down my comment because it's the only way they can comfort themselves after all the dumb accusations they were making yesterday. 484. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Oh boy, this is gonna be one hair-raising restart here... 485. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Here we go! 486. Doug posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (4) "476. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 467- This coming from a guy who I have never seen comment on this site before. " Been hear longer than you, punk! 487. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ARE YOU KIDDING ME NASCAR??? 488. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yolo 489. Lucstar88 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) f**k THIS SPORT! 490. Anonymous posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:28 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) "Watch all the Junior fans run together to thumb down my comment because it's the only way they can comfort themselves after all the dumb accusations they were making yesterday." I can personally promise you that the thumbs down aren't all from Junior fans. Grow up. 491. Lucstar88 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) NEVER MIND. NEVER WENT GREEN! 492. Everyone at RacingReference posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:29 pm Rate this comment: (6) (3) F*ck off Doug 493. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And they wreck on the restart. ...and NASCAR is saying it never went green? What? Are they trying to make up an excuse to give us another GWC? 494. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick was WAY out of the groove. Blowing up? 495. Smiff_2 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) WOW, a GOOD call by NASCAR!!! 496. New14 & 88 Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Joey spins his tires which stacks up the field and causes JJ to get spun. 497. Doug posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:29 pm Rate this comment: (1) (6) " 492. Everyone at RacingReference posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) F*ck off Doug " At least use a real name, candyass. 498. BluesTravelerFan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:29 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Drivers become so unintelligent at the ends of these races... 499. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Thank God NASCAR didn't call the race after that. That would have been the worst moves I've seen in a long time. Harvick blows up. Dang it. 500. TS1420 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:30 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) NASCAR rewriting rules on the fly. 501. GrahamRahalFan2015 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Schroeder51, noooo. The flagman waved the YELLOW flag, not the green flag, that's how you know that it never went greem 502. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well, apparently they never DID take the green before the yellow came back out. OK then, but I have a feeling this is something ELSE NASCAR is gonna be outstandingly inconsistent on... 503. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:30 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) NASCAR: being inconsistent since 1948. 504. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @494, I think the 4's ish-shoe is the transmission 505. Sean posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:31 pm Rate this comment: (2) (2) After the zone, before crossing the start-finish line. TIME TO GET RID OF RESTART ZONES Dump the shootout-style restarts, go back to the pre-2009 model with lapped cars on the inside, and start at the start-finish line. Geez. 506. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) OK, the green flag was out, but the caution AND yellow light came out before anyone crossed the line. So does that even count as a restart? 507. Tylor Thaber posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:32 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @486 Okay, so you've decided to keep going so we can laugh at you. Thank you for providing us with some of the best humor we've ever seen! 508. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 505, I agreed with you until you wanted the pre-09 style. Just let the flagman start the race. 509. OldSchoolNascarDude1 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I like Earnhardt, but even I think this is one of the more stupid calls NASCAR has ever made on race management. 510. Benjamin LordLowe posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Note to all the drivers involved in this race USE YOUR GODDAMN f**kING HEADS AT THE END OF THE RACE AND STOP RACING LIKE BRAINLESS IMBECILES 511. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) At least it didn't end under caution after that. They didn't reach the green flag, NASCAR made the right call. 512. Driver X posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:32 pm Rate this comment: (3) (1) I'm in the minority here, but I would have liked to have seen Biffle pull off an upset and win with the race only having 1 caution. Guess it wasn't meant to be today. I am really kinda wishing NASCAR would do away with this GWC nonsense altogether. 513. Cornys posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:33 pm Rate this comment: (2) (3) 1 attempt* * - Attempts only count if Dale Jr is leading. 514. joey2448 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) I guess that's the right call, because the caution was back out before the field reached the S/F line, but still.... NASCAR wants Junior to win sooooo badly. 515. Anonymous posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:33 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) The worst part of Talladega isn't the cautions; it's the length of the cautions that gets me going. 516. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:33 pm Rate this comment: (1) (4) Doug, the last person on this site who thought causing childish arguments with everyone he disagreed with was the answer lasted about a month. I advise you to grow up or else you'll end up the same way. 517. Allen Bestwick posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:34 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) "PLEASE don't anyone make a mistake." - 2001 EA Sports 500 518. Lucstar88 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:34 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I heard that the leader had to pass the line to actually go green. 519. Cornys posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Also, we will only go green after Biffle pits. 520. TS1420 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I wonder what happens if there is another wreck after the green is taken. "That was a just a practice run. Next time we'll go green for real". 521. DB1995 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:34 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) NASCAR wants Junior to win SO BAD, Brian France just pulled another rule out of his ass 522. Anonymous posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:35 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) GWC and double-file restarts are probably the two best decisions NASCAR's made in the Brian France error. Please don't start complaining about those, complain about the things that are really screwed up. 523. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Lets go Jr! 524. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) So here we go. Let's try this again! 525. Tylor Thaber posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) @516 What even started this all? I fail to believe @464 could be a catalyst for anyone but an eight year old. Probably worded that terribly, but oh well. 526. Sean posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) boooooooooooooooooooooooooo 527. racefangurl posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I wonder what NASCAR will do if there's a segment sweep. 528. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Dale won!!!! 529. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Jr wins! 530. Lucstar88 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:36 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) WHAT THE f**k IS HAPPENING CAN YOU NOT WRECK LOL 531. Sean posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:36 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) Seems to me they waited to throw that caution until Junior was leading 532. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:36 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) A HUGE crash on the restart, this time DEFINITELY after the leaders took the green flag. That had BETTER be it... 533. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Never mind. Darn. 534. TS1420 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Of course. 535. Anonymous posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Penske vs. Hendrick: The Evil Empires Collide 536. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:37 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) That was a real idiotic move by Harvick. I know he wanted to advance but 'cmon... 537. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) and they wait till Dale passes to throw the caution. Give me a damn break 538. BluesTravelerFan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Someone give me a puke bucket... 539. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Dale Yeah!!! 540. Chives5150 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) God damn, you guys. 541. New14 & 88 Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think Junior won! Heavy damage on Hamlin, I think he got eliminated. 542. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:37 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) Logano sweeps the Chase round. 543. Lucstar88 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If a caution comes out. Field is frozen AND determined by video review. 544. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:38 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) So how did NASCAR's new GWC policy work? Both races, they wreck before half a lap. LMAO 545. BluesTravelerFan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) What a kick in the n-ds. 546. Sean posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:38 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) And Jeff Burton is defending the caution as if somebody's arguing there shouldn't have been a caution in the first place? WTF? The issue is how slow they were to throw the caution, not the existence of the caution in the first place. 547. Doug posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Say Gordon's pole was rigged and it's fine. Say waiting to throw the yellow was rigged and you're a psycho. 548. Howard Salwasser posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) My prediction came too soon? 549. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:39 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I'm guessing Logano won? All I know is that Logano, Gordon, Edwards, and a few others definitely advanced...I'm so confused right now... 550. JRacingFast posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) .......NASCAR YOU HAVE GOT TO FIX THESE f**kING RESTART PROBLEMS ON RESTRICTOR PLATE TRACKS 551. Tylor Thaber posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) DURR HOW DO I RESTART 552. Benjamin LordLowe posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) All the drivers deserve a Texas sized ass kicking for the pathetically miserable way they raced in the last few laps 553. Chives5150 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Twitter will be burning in flames tonight. 554. Anonymous posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin was laps down anyway. He was eliminated before the restart. 555. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:39 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "They will not wreck with only one GWC" - NASCAR This finish completely sucked, and it could have been avoidable by NASCAR and the drivers. 556. OldSchoolNascarDude1 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) That was actually smart by Harvick. His only hope was to help cause a wreck. 557. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:39 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Logano wins. Dale didn't pass him until after the caution came out. 558. Anonymous posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:40 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Truex advances after his dismal Saturday 559. Howard Salwasser posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:40 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) OK, so Logano came across first. Or did he? 560. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:40 pm Rate this comment: (3) (1) I just lost some respect for Harvick there. 561. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:40 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Fans are booing. If they don't give the win to Junior, Joey is gonna get beer-bombed BIG time... Hamlin is DEFINITELY eliminated, though. 562. RWR posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Seriously, this race is a f**king joke 563. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (4) GODDAMMIT! Giggles won. 564. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:40 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) If Joey wins, don't do any celebrating. Some joon-yer fan may toss a keg at you. 565. #31 Sucks posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (6) So no winless wonder for Newman! Hell yes! 566. Benjamin LordLowe posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:41 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) This sport can burn in hell 567. Lucstar88 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:41 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) That's Logano's win. Sucks we CAN'T RACE BACK BECAUSE NO ONE CAN DRIVE! 568. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU 569. Ryan W posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:41 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) All Hell is about to break loose from the stands if Logano wins. Looks like he was ahead 570. JRacingFast posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm f**king done with this sport 571. Anonymous posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:41 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) Crap finish. Don't know why so many people thought a limit of 1 GWC attempt was a good idea. 572. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:41 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) And Logano sweeps the whole round. Get ready for the beer bombing boys... 573. Howard Salwasser posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:41 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Logano wins! And Brian France may not make it out of Alabama unscathed. 574. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:41 pm Rate this comment: (1) (2) Dale, had no right to make the next round anyway. Mistake after mistake race after race by that entire team. 575. Cornys posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) NASCAR waited for JR to take the lead before the caution. 576. Cumulonimbus posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:42 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Seems like Logano sweeps all 3 races of this round. But what a joke this finish was. 577. Sean posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Don't know why so many people thought a limit of 1 GWC attempt was a good idea." Don't know why anybody thought GWC in Cup, or shootout-style restarts on plate tracks was a good idea. 578. Christian posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:42 pm Rate this comment: (2) (2) f**k this sport. I knew that either a Penske or Gibbs car and I was right. Only good race this weekend was the Truck race yesterday. 579. Anonymous posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:42 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Joey sweeps the round. Damn! 580. Thomas posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:42 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) What Harvick did in dumping Bayne there was as egregious as what happened with MWR at Richmond. Chase manipulation, pure and simple. 581. TS1420 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) NASCAR needs to stop doing GWC's and just go back to racing back to the caution at plate tracks. 582. Tylor Thaber posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Just noticed NASCAR.com worded that crash as 'major contact'. Yeah uh I'll see you guys at Homestead... 583. Lucstar88 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:43 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) That's all on Harvick. Just took out the entire field! 584. RWR posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:43 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) What a stupid move for the #4 car. 585. Anonymous posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:43 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) "Don't know why anybody thought GWC in Cup, or shootout-style restarts on plate tracks was a good idea." Don't know why anybody thought NASCAR races should end in parade formation. 586. Howard Salwasser posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 569. The video don't lie. And yes, I say that as an Earnhardt Jr. fan. 587. Anonymous posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:44 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) Justice says Harvick should be penalized out of Round 3. Technically, the NASCAR rulebook says it too, but selective interpretation applies. 588. Sean posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Don't know why anybody thought NASCAR races should end in parade formation." Safety. If they honestly care about safety, the '90s/early 2000s model of ending races under caution was correct. 589. New14 & 88 Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I could of swore Jr. was in front of Logano when the yellow came out but oh well. The #22 sweeps round two in the chase. Also, NASCAR made the right call in throwing the yellow. There were cars sitting wrecked on the front stretch and the apron with the safety crews heading out to them. Letting them race back would of been beyond idiotic. 590. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:44 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) What Harvick was doing is just idiotic. You are champion! Show it! 591. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:44 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) You know what would be a cool job? The guy holding the gun to the broadcasters' head to toe the line. 592. MAR posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:45 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) Wow congratulations Logano smh on the finish sucks for Jr and I hope Brian france gets his ass kicked by the Alabama faithful 593. BluesTravelerFan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Right now I need about 100 mg of Paxil. 594. Sean posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:45 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) At least they've learned how to sync up video with the time of caution since the 2002 Indy 500... 595. Ryan W posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:45 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) If the caution comes out a second or two later Jr. wins 596. Tide1032 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Final Superspeedway race for Jeff Gordon. 597. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:45 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Surprisingly I haven't seen any beer cans fly over the fence... NASCAR made the right call in giving the win to Joey since he was definitely out front when the caution came out, but BOY is that gonna be the unpopular call of the DECADE right there...It was a good race OVERALL, but the finish just was one HELL of a downer. God, I can only imagine what the Youtube comments on the finish are gonna look like...look for Junior fanboys to be on there in FULL rage mode... 598. Benjamin LordLowe posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (3) This was a shit race with a shit ending 599. Matt posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:46 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) Harvick knew his engine was dead and decided to block Bayne's attempt to go around and cause that in order to make it. Should be dq'd for sure in the next round 600. Anonymous posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) "Safety. If they honestly care about safety, the '90s/early 2000s model of ending races under caution was correct." You're wrong, and you're wrong for the very reason that "freezing the field" was implemented. Racing back to the caution flag for the win was incredibly dumb. 601. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:46 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Wouldn't it have been more fun to see Biffle coast the last lap on fumes to the win with a group of cars coming behind him at twice the speed? 602. Lucstar88 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:46 pm Rate this comment: (3) (1) Harvick is going to make it after causing that wreck. f**k him. 603. Tylor Thaber posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:47 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) God, I thought TUDOR was a failure but the drivers are still having a good time, and while management sucks over there, the race directors are competent and they still put on good shows. as THIS was a RARE good show by NASCAR that they destroyed with incompemt driving and Donald Trump levels of stupidity by Brian France. Good riddance to that race. 604. racefangurl posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:47 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) HarvICK, for causing the Big One. 605. Benjamin LordLowe posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:47 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) They should fine Kevin Have-a-wreck and make him sit out the rest of the year BTW I'm no fan of Dale Joonyeer 606. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:47 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) This finish will forever be tainted. 1. Why the hell did NASCAR allow Harvick to continue? Him staying out on a blown motor caused the pack to crash. If I was NASCAR I would have black flagged him. 2. Why did NASCAR change this to one attempt? The attempts does not matter! They will still wreck! 3. What was Harvick thinking? You knew this was going to happen with him off pace. If i was NASCAR I would do what they did in the 2001 All-Star race, and allow back up cars and then restart the race again. That was 100% avoidable. And I'm not even a Jr. fan. Chives put it best, Twitter will burn in flames. 607. Sean posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:48 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "You're wrong, and you're wrong for the very reason that "freezing the field" was implemented. Racing back to the caution flag for the win was incredibly dumb." Freezing the field and GWC are two different issues. I'm okay with freezing the field (as was done in 2003). That was safer than racing back to the caution. But GWC took away any safety that freezing the field provided. And shootout style took away even more safety. Personally, I think Logano deserved it all along because of waiving off the restart (how often does NASCAR waive off restarts? That's an IndyCar thing...) 608. Ryan W posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) They should let the 88 in. He probably would have won without the caution 609. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:48 pm Rate this comment: (2) (5) Jr. fans are raging to a max. They are the real joke, not NASCAR. 610. Howard Salwasser posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 597. If those things I saw on the track AREN'T beer-porting devices, then there's oceanfront property available for you in Minnesota. 611. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:49 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Last time I remember hearing a chorus of boos THAT loud was the '06 fall race here where Vickers took out Junior and Johnson on the last lap... 612. Anonymous posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:50 pm Rate this comment: (8) (0) Harvick should be parked for his stupid shenanigans. 613. Anonymous posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 610- If you consider Lake Superior is connected to the Atlantic Ocean via the St. Clair River and the St. Lawrence Seaway LOL 614. murb posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Other than letting Harvick continue on, they made all the right calls in my opinion. But this is Racing Reference, so the sky must fall I guess. 615. BluesTravelerFan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:51 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Kudos to Jr. for being calm and showing class. 616. Howard Salwasser posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:51 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) 609. Sir, I respectfully ask you to not lump me in with that crowd. 617. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Speaking of riots, where's Kenseth to deliver on his beatdown? 618. Benjamin LordLowe posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:52 pm Rate this comment: (2) (3) It's unfortunate DSFF stopped coming to these boards otherwise he would've had a field day with this race 619. Clint posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:52 pm Rate this comment: (5) (0) Why would nascar black flag a car that cannot maintain pace but allow a car that cant accelerate is allowed to take the green and wreck half the field. This isn't a sport its more like pro wrestling 620. Sean posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) murb, I was okay with everything except the waved off restart, and that I think a caution for a wreck that big should be instant, regardless of where any drivers are. I really don't think that race was THAT bad, as everybody else did. If they just dumped the shootout-style restarts then there wouldn't have been a crash at the end and the race would have purity. The first 180 laps were pretty good. 621. Lucstar88 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:53 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) Everyone calling out Harvick, EVEN I'M AGREEING WITH JGR DRIVER! 622. Howard Salwasser posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 617. At Texas, maybe? 623. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:53 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "If those things I saw on the track AREN'T beer-porting devices, then there's oceanfront property available for you in Minnesota." Ha ha, I must not have been paying good enough attention then. I understand the fans' frustrations, but still, VERY classless move by them. I really hope none of them are allowed back at the track anytime soon because there is simply no class in that at all. Well, my prediction of an all Gibbs final four won't happen, as Matt and Denny were eliminated today, leaving just Carl and Kyle left to give the Toyotas a championship. 624. Cornys posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) TV's yellow flag display was later than NASCAR's. Ignore my yellow flag comment earlier about them waiting. They made the right calls today IMO. I don't like GWC. The race is 188 laps. It ends at 188 laps. At least it should. 625. Anonymous posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Freezing the field and GWC are two different issues." But they are heavily related. GWCs wouldn't introduce any added danger if the drivers drove like they had any sense. The combination of freezing the field and GWCs only really becomes controversial for the most part at plate tracks. Most plate restarts go OK, it's only at the end of the race when there is likely to be a caution soon after one. The drivers just need to keep their heads on straight. 626. Ryan W posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:54 pm Rate this comment: (5) (1) Earnhardt handled that with class. That's the reason why he wins the most popular driver award. They should let the 88 in and the 4 out. 627. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:55 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Harvick looks like he did spin the 6. 628. Lucstar88 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:55 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) HE TURNED RIGHT INTO HIM WOW!! HE LOOKED AT BAYNE AND TURNED RIGHT WTF! 629. Sean posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:55 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Well, after they let Newman bump-and-run his way into the finals, I guess anything goes... I'd like to see avoidable contact penalties, but IndyCar doesn't know how to do it consistently and I'm sure NASCAR would do even worse. 630. Anonymous posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 626- Dumping the 4 would mean letting the 31 in, not the 88. 631. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:55 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Okay, seriously, what the hell was Harvick DOING there trying to restart with a dying motor? I understand why he would do that as he obviously does NOT want to be eliminated, but...seriously, that was a terrible choice on his part. Gonna have to pull AGAINST him the rest of the Chase... 632. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "But this is Racing Reference, so the sky must fall I guess." I've seen you complain on older races. And none of us are mad at NASCAR. The ONLY thing we are mad at is Harvick's move to take out the field. Had that not happened, all would be well. 633. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) They should let the 88 in and the 4 out. No more charity. If they want to lay the hammer on the 4(not happening), only have 7 teams in the next round, no substitutes. 634. murb posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Everything considered though, I'm about done with the GWC. I wouldn't miss it at all if it mysteriously disappeared. 635. I have never posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:57 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Oh man, they just showed a replay of Harvick's in-car with him calculating with his eyes when to turn right. Class-less. 636. Thomas posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) With Hamlin being eliminated, does he maybe take the rest of the season off to have surgery on his torn ACL to give him more time for rehab before Daytona 2016? It's something he should consider. 637. Anonymous posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:57 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) If Harvick is allowed to advance in the Chase, then there's a serious problem. Blatant points manipulation on his part. I'd say what he's did is far worse than what Bowyer did. Definitely more dangerous. 638. MAR posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Did 88&4 fan change his name because of the finish lol 639. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:58 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) Okay, after seeing the final restart...yep, looks like Harvick definitely turned right into Bayne. I have NO doubt he's gonna deny he did that on purpose, but be on the lookout to see if his nose starts growing larger in the process.. 640. Cornys posted: 10.25.2015 - 5:59 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) Harvick basically crashed on purpose to try and make the Chase though. lol 641. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) 638- not yet, but I'm considering it. Maybe 88&78Fan. 642. Lucstar88 posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:00 pm Rate this comment: (5) (1) If MWR got kicked for Richmond 2013. THIS WAS WAY MORE BLATANT LOL 643. Ryan W posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:00 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) They let the 24 in after Richmond a few years ago and they need to let the 88 in. He more than likely would have won. He's got robbed before here. His daddy got robbed there in '93 when they threw the caution for sprinkles and let the field catch up. 644. Sean posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:00 pm Rate this comment: (6) (2) Harvick also tried to punt Logano on the last lap after he ran out of gas at Watkins Glen. It was hilarious he did not succeed. And people try to argue he's "clean" or something. Easily my least favorite driver. 645. Anonymous posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:02 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "They let the 24 in after Richmond a few years ago and they need to let the 88 in. He more than likely would have won. He's got robbed before here. His daddy got robbed there in '93 when they threw the caution for sprinkles and let the field catch up. " Then ethics demand the 31 get in because you have no proof that the 88 would have won. Heck, the 2 or 19 could have won being Dega! 646. Anonymous posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:03 pm Rate this comment: (6) (0) "They let the 24 in after Richmond a few years ago and they need to let the 88 in. He more than likely would have won. He's got robbed before here. His daddy got robbed there in '93 when they threw the caution for sprinkles and let the field catch up." Earnhardt deserves it, but NASCAR can't say "he might have won" and let him in when he was so low in points. They should just give Harvick a points penalty and let Newman advance. It sucks that it has to be Newman to benefit, but Harvick DEFINITELY shouldn't advance. 647. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Or did they already interview Harvick? I don't know, considering all the chaos at the end of this race, my mind's been thrown for a loop so I'm not exactly focused on the TV right now, haha... Glad to see Truex almost certainly advance to Round 3, would be neat to see him in the final four at Homestead. And Gordon is the only Hendrick driver for the second year in a row to make it as far as Round 3 (considering he was definitely at least 4th, he's definitely in). 648. Thomas posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:04 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) "His daddy got robbed there in '93 when they threw the caution for sprinkles and let the field catch up." Slight history rewrite there. Earnhardt took the lead from Rusty coming back to the caution for rain. They should have run the race out under caution though--Rusty would probably agree based on what happened. 649. murb posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I've seen you complain on older races." lol, Everybody has. I'm just saying that once you stop posting so much (like I have this year), when you do come back to a controversial race like this, the negativity is f**king glaring. You're right though, initially I thought everyone was pissed at Nascar, and that was my mistake. Seems like it's all mostly aimed at Harvick, which is more than rightful. 650. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) NASCAR should've just never thrown the caution for the Jimmie/Larson incident. Then we may have had a non-BS-filled finih! 651. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:06 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) I hope Harvick has no chance at winning the title this year. That was a completely classless move and I've lost a ton of respect for him. 652. Chives5150 posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I know they interviewed Harvick on MRN, and he kept saying that his car wouldn't work on restarts. That's all he said, really. He did sound kinda sheepish about it, though. 653. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) "NASCAR can't say "he might have won" As a Jr fan I don't think he should be let in the next round, however I do think Newman should be let in the next round. But NASCAR did let Gordon in the chase because they said "he might've finished where he needed to." 654. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:07 pm Rate this comment: (3) (1) I think Harvick lost a LOT of people's respect after this race... 655. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:08 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) I've never seen anything so blatant since Bowyer at Richmond. 656. BR549 posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:09 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) Bold prediction: "Due to Kevin Harvick actions all the other 11 drivers advance to Round 3." 657. James posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick didn't do himself any favors by dodging post-race interviews (if he did so). Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do, though... 658. Ryan W posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "His daddy got robbed there in '93 when they threw the caution for sprinkles and let the field catch up. Slight history rewrite there. Earnhardt took the lead from Rusty coming back to the caution for rain. They should have run the race out under caution though--Rusty would probably agree based on what happened." He could have passed Rusty at any time. He knew the caution was coming out for rain and set him up to pass and put a filthy move on him down the backstretch. Robbed! They shouldn't have brought it out and when they did they should have kept it out as you say. 659. BluesTravelerFan posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:10 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I'm a Jr. fan too and I agree you can't just give him a bid because of what could have happened, but Harvick should DEFINITELY be eliminated. 660. Anonymous posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:10 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) Harvick is the definition of chickenshit. I could write a ten page essay on the classless moves he pulled in his excuse of a "career". 661. Tim posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:10 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Did anyone stop and think maybe Trevor Bayne should have known what was going to happen there and maybe not tried to drive over his head to attempt to gain 6 spots before turn 1? No? All right. Just checkin'. 662. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I agree with what Dale and Kyle said. Why the first one wasn't the g-w-c is a mystery. 663. murb posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:12 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) As for the championship, Logano's obviously on the fast track, assuming they don't have a problem at one of the next three. Best driver and team in Nascar right now, by far. I'm still on the Truex bandwagon though. He should have a good shot to win Texas, and they ran really well at Phoenix last year, so hopefully they'll at least be in contention for the Final Four. 664. We need more Onion posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:13 pm Rate this comment: (2) (2) Guys, I'm no fan of his, but let's slow down with all the Harvick hate. He said during the race that the car is not going on restarts and he WILL pull to the outside. From the onboard posted to Twitter it looks like the car was not fully in control. Do you know how hard it is to drive a racecar with some kind of mechanical failure? I'm no expert myself, as I the strongest thing I've ever driven is an ex-STW Vectra, but just think about it. 665. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:13 pm Rate this comment: (6) (1) I think everyone is missing the big issue here. If NASCAR had just let them race when the 48 and 42 spun, all of this controversy never would've happened! 666. Anonymous posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) ""His daddy got robbed there in '93 when they threw the caution for sprinkles and let the field catch up. Slight history rewrite there. Earnhardt took the lead from Rusty coming back to the caution for rain. They should have run the race out under caution though--Rusty would probably agree based on what happened." He could have passed Rusty at any time. He knew the caution was coming out for rain and set him up to pass and put a filthy move on him down the backstretch. Robbed! They shouldn't have brought it out and when they did they should have kept it out as you say." The foam is flying out of your mouth. 667. Benjamin LordLowe posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:13 pm Rate this comment: (4) (1) Someone needs to take Harvick's worthless ass to the woodshed 668. Ryan W posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:14 pm Rate this comment: (5) (0) What Harvick did was wrong. What Bowyer did was wrong. This is the product of this stupid Chase. Harvick's just like anyone else he wants to make it to the next round. I don't believe he should allowed to make it. They might as well go ahead and let all 12 in. Everyone out there has a gripe of how they could have finished better to get in if not for the wreck. It wouldn't hurt anything. They've done it before. Anyone want to bet me they let more than 8 in or not? 669. Anonymous posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:15 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Guys, I'm no fan of his, but let's slow down with all the Harvick hate. He said during the race that the car is not going on restarts and he WILL pull to the outside. From the onboard posted to Twitter it looks like the car was not fully in control. Do you know how hard it is to drive a racecar with some kind of mechanical failure? I'm no expert myself, as I the strongest thing I've ever driven is an ex-STW Vectra, but just think about it. " Putting around with power steering and down cylinders does NOT in any physics book create that scenario. If he truly felt he was such a danger that he needed to pull to the outside on restarts, then he shouldn't have been out there! 670. Nathan8848 posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:15 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Harvick was already as close to the wall well before the restart on the first attempt. On the 2nd attempt he was right in line all the way to the green. 671. Anonymous posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:18 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Did anyone stop and think maybe Kevin Harvick should have known what was going to happen there and maybe not tried to drive over his head to attempt to drive like its a f**king Saturday night short track race? Yeah? All right. Just checkin'. 672. BMan0213 posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:19 pm Rate this comment: (5) (0) I'm with Kyle Petty. Show me the damn rule that says they can just wave of the restart like they did when Jimmie went around. I truly feel the race should have ended there. As for the next wreck as much as i dislike Denny, after watching it again I think he has point. On the first attempt Harvick was well out of the way and was dropping back through the trioval. On the second he waited and hooked Bayne. Maybe he miss judged it but why didn't he just do what he did the first time? IMO the intent is there, not enough to warrant a penalty but enough to at least make you go hmmmmmm. 673. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:19 pm Rate this comment: (5) (0) "Do you know how hard it is to drive a car with some kind of mechanical failure?" If Harvick had "some kind of mechanical failure" then there was no reason for him to be on the track in the first place. 674. Destroyahirismix666 posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:19 pm Rate this comment: (2) (2) What Harvick did was wrong, and should warrant a penalty. I also think that Logano should have been given a penalty for holding the entire field up on the failed first GWC attempt. But the real penalty should be applied to NASCAR itself, changing the rules on at the last minute, before and during the race. I came back to watch the Trucks and Cup race at Dega this weekend because I was hoping against hope it would be an entertaining time. It mostly was, but in both scenarios stupid officiating ruined the finishes of both races (Harvick had a hand also). I'm glad I watched the race on a stream, so my viewing does not count toward any advertising revenue. Formula 1, on the other hand. They actually have taken steps forward to redeem themselves in my eyes, and today's race was no exception. 675. Ryan W posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:19 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Anonymous @666 The coward is flying out of your name. I just stated a fact. 676. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:20 pm Rate this comment: (1) (3) This race now ranks #2 on by biggest BS finishes, right behind Spingate and right ahead of Auto Club earlier this year. 677. Anonymous posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:21 pm Rate this comment: (3) (3) I've got a solution. Don't count caution laps on GWC finishes or possibly even within the last 10 laps of the race. If this had been done at least Dale Jr would've had a chance to win. I'm not saying he would've won but he would've at least had a shot. With the way it is now, he or any driver other than Logano didn't have a chance to win. PLEASE don't thumbs down this. When you give me a thumbs down it makes me think i'm worthless and i'm tired of thinking that. 678. Cornys posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:21 pm Rate this comment: (3) (2) Well, I see things haven't changed with NASCAR. It's sad, because this was once a great sports league. 679. Ryan W posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Can you imagine getting 12 down to 4 in three races if they let that happen? It sets up for the same scenario to happen again, however. 680. OldSchoolNascarDude1 posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:23 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) I like Kevin Harvick and Dale Earnhardt for the most part. That said NASCAR is in a box. First, the initial start should have ended it. It would have been frustrating and made NASCAR's one GWC rule seem silly, but by land of the law it should have been over. Next, Harvick intentionally wrecked Bayne because he was toast. But, what happened to Bowyer? Nothing, because it was between races 26 and 27. Ryan Newman dumped Kyle Larson last year at Phoenix and Brian France said that he "enourages" that. Harvick can easily say he was tryin to give it one more shot to see if the engine would go and once it didn't he went up the track and clipped Bayne because he was looking in his mirror to avoid getting hit. It would probably be a lie, but it would be better to plead incompetence than to get yourself kicked out of the round. Somehow, I have a feeling Brian France and Company will do something really stupid, like including a ninth car or making Martinsville an elimination race. 681. Cornys posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:25 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) This post deserves to be reposted: "What Harvick did was wrong, and should warrant a penalty. I also think that Logano should have been given a penalty for holding the entire field up on the failed first GWC attempt. But the real penalty should be applied to NASCAR itself, changing the rules on at the last minute, before and during the race. I came back to watch the Trucks and Cup race at Dega this weekend because I was hoping against hope it would be an entertaining time. It mostly was, but in both scenarios stupid officiating ruined the finishes of both races (Harvick had a hand also). I'm glad I watched the race on a stream, so my viewing does not count toward any advertising revenue. Formula 1, on the other hand. They actually have taken steps forward to redeem themselves in my eyes, and today's race was no exception." My additional note: IndyCar has as well, but has work to do yet. 682. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) "Ryan Newman dumped Kyle Larson last year at Phoenix and Brian France said that he "enourages" that." Newman did what he had to do to make it to the next round, and even Larson knew that. 683. Evan posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:26 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Let me be honest, I don't like the way this race ended. I understand Kevin Harvick had some issues with his car and had difficulty going, but he was danger to the field on TWO consecutive restarts and that should have clued someone in to get the car out of the way because he was a hazard out there. Plus everyone knew that the race would end under a single GWC at the start, so people were going to take a ton of risks. But still everyone was doing what they had to do, unfortunately though this one will be talked about for a while that Kevin Harvick intentionally messed up the results by being out there in a car that he was trying to nurse home. That's racing, but this one leaves a bit of a funky taste in my mouth. 684. 88&4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Well, I'm done making myself miserable with NASCAR today. Off to watch RedZone. I guess today hasn't been completely horrible, since the Skins won and my fantasy football team has high score of the week right now. 685. Mamorese posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:28 pm Rate this comment: (2) (2) NASCAR FINALLY got every call in a ridiculous sequence of events correct. Actually, this was the best officiated race I've seen in years. NASCAR requires the leader to pass the S/F line for a restart to be official. They nailed that call. It's the equivalent of a restart being waved off in open wheel racing. There is so much distance between the RS zone at talladega and the S/F line, you can have something like this happen whereas at shorter tracks the leader would likely pass the line before the caution had a chance to come out. NASCAR got the call right on the finish as well. Anything different would have been blatant manipulation. NASCAR didn't black flag Harvick because there was nothing to base their call off of other than what he was relaying on the radio. For all NASCAR knows he's just trying to confuse those around him and possibly give himself a competitive advantage. Same thing as drivers constantly whining about debris on the track when they need a caution. Great race, unfortunate ending. But the calls were solid. Felt bad for Jr through, he's a great competitor and has some of the best class in all of sports 686. Thomas posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think part of the reason it's taking so long for NASCAR to put results out there is that they're having a serious conversation about what to do with Happy's actions. 1. Stick their heads in the sand and call it a "racing incident." 2. Penalize Harvick to the end of the lead lap. That would likely put Newman into the next round. 3. Wait until Tuesday to make a decision to give them a chance to gather more information. 687. Quasar posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Newman really cost himself a chase spot this time, he was 4th near the end on the outside line and he thought it would be good idea to try the inside line at a time when it basically wasn't going anywhere, he then ended up 21st in that run. 688. We need more Onion posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:31 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) "Do you know how hard it is to drive a car with some kind of mechanical failure?" If Harvick had "some kind of mechanical failure" then there was no reason for him to be on the track in the first place. " You are one of the top two drivers of the season. Your championship hopes are depending on a single race, thanks to a gimmicky system. NASCAR allows you to regain your positions after starting dropping to the back on the first zeroeth GWC. Would YOU throw your championship away with retiring/going to the back if you are ALLOWED to stay where you are? 689. BMan0213 posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:33 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) Something I just thought of. Why the hell did they even throw the yellow when the 48 spun. He just went into the grass and there was nothing on the track... In all reality instead of restarting the race like they did or ending it, keeping the green flag in the air would have been the best option. 690. Benjamin LordLowe posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:34 pm Rate this comment: (3) (1) There is no hope now NASCAR is truly beyond saving as the sport hurtles towards it's inevitable doom 691. Mamorese posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Would be nice if someone can find video from a prior race where the caution came back out before the field passed the S/F to take the green. I honestly can't think of one 692. Aaron W. posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:35 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Biffle would have made it if the race finished under green. 693. Thomas posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:37 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) "Biffle would have made it if the race finished under green." Actually, probably not. The general rule of thumb is 2 laps under caution is worth 1 lap under green on gas. Applying that rule, Biffle probably would have run out of gas with 2 to go. 694. Lucstar88 posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Calling B.S. on the bad engine. HE MADE THE LAST 2 LAPS WITHOUT ANY PROBLEMS. So bulls*** 695. BMan0213 posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Ryan Newman dumped Kyle Larson last year at Phoenix and Brian France said that he "enourages" that." Newman did what he had to do to make it to the next round, and even Larson knew that." to add to that, all he did was drive it in deep and bump Larson. They only reason that looked as bad as it did was because Larson chose not to save the car and just drove it into the wall. Newman didn't do what it looks like Harvick did which would be hook a driver in front of the whole field to cause a wreck to save his race. 696. The Great Dave posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #691 Happens once every few races in Indy car, so there's that. 697. sam wilson posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) the points are unofficial we know that first through sixth is official or at least they're in, we know jr and kenseth is out 698. sam wilson posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) the points are unofficial we know that first through sixth is official or at least they're in, we know jr and kenseth is out 699. sam wilson posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ill stay up till midnight if thats what it takes to fin official points 700. Lucstar88 posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:40 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) @695 What Newman did last year was bad. This was way worse. He wrecked 10+ cars and at a Super-speedway which is way more dangerous. 701. OldSchoolNascarDude1 posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The problem, 695, is that we don't know what judgement NASCAR is going by. 702. Richie posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:42 pm Rate this comment: (3) (2) Hindsight is 20/20, folks. You're gonna sit there and tell me -- with COMPLETE honesty -- that you're going to let off the gas, fade to the back and watch your championship hopes vanish right in front of you? AFTER having one of the most dominant seasons in NASCAR history? You're gonna throw ALL of that away and get eliminated because of this silly playoff system that punishes a driver for one race instead of rewarding them for their consistency throughout the year? Nah, man. You're either a fool or a liar. 703. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:42 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) I hope NASCAR sits down and decides to get rid of the horrible chase system! Why? I exhibit 3 reasons: 1. Richmond 2011 2. Richmond 2013 3. Talladega 2015 Three strikes and you're OUT! 704. sam wilson posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) its dumb that most racing sports are illegal to block. nascar knows that blocking is racing. coverage is still on at nbcsn and will be on until coverage is ended OR points are official 705. BMan0213 posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:45 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "I hope NASCAR sits down and decides to get rid of the horrible chase system! Why? I exhibit 3 reasons: 1. Richmond 2011 2. Richmond 2013 3. Talladega 2015 Three strikes and you're OUT!" Doubt it. you know why? Everyone will be talking about this. Even bad headlines are headlines and that's all NASCAR cares about. 706. Lucstar88 posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:46 pm Rate this comment: (3) (1) Helton said nothing bad about it. Yeah, go f**k youself, you piece of shit. 707. joey2448 posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:46 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) I originally questioned Harvick's move to the outside that turned Trevor Bayne and started that wreck, but now I think I'm defending him, and this is why: Harvick was trying to A. block his row and try to keep Bayne and the rest behind him, or B. Harvick was simply trying to move out of the way in order to avoid a stack up. The only guy that knows exactly what his intent was is Harvick. 708. nascarman posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @691. This is the only time I can think of off the top of my head they threw a caution before green. https://youtu.be/kSjIRxj1cPM?t=22m18s 709. Thomas posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Mike Helton, "We didn't see anything suspect." (regarding Harvick's actions) Helton must have been watching a different race than the rest of us. 710. BMan0213 posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:47 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "its dumb that most racing sports are illegal to block. nascar knows that blocking is racing. coverage is still on at nbcsn and will be on until coverage is ended OR points are official" Thing is Harvick wan't blocking. He hooked Bayne... 711. murb posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hopefully Rodney Gustafson makes his triumphant return at Martinsville, Texas, and Phoenix. 712. Lucstar88 posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:49 pm Rate this comment: (10) (2) And that's why Helton and France are mocked. Indycar and F1 have better leadership than this. Pathetic. 713. sam wilson posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Joey Logano, Carl Ewards,Jeff Gordon,Kurt Busch, Brad Keselowski, Martin Truex Jr, Kevin Harvick, Kyle Busch, that is official standings. the only exception would be if nascar were to see a failed post race exception and dock points IF THEY DECIDE TO DO THAT 714. Mamorese posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Helton is bungling his words. What the hell does "I've been around long enough for something to crawl out of the woodwork mean" 715. BMan0213 posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:52 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I originally questioned Harvick's move to the outside that turned Trevor Bayne and started that wreck, but now I think I'm defending him, and this is why: Harvick was trying to A. block his row and try to keep Bayne and the rest behind him, or B. Harvick was simply trying to move out of the way in order to avoid a stack up. The only guy that knows exactly what his intent was is Harvick. His Car was stuck going pace speed. No way in hell he was gonna block everyone for 5+ miles lol. The main reason why I don't buy the blocking argument here is the fact Harvick was up against the wall on the first restart and was letting people pass him. Why didn't he do the same thing on the second restart? Again I don't think this is something you can penalize him for but even if he was just trying to block he messed up. 716. sam wilson posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 710 im not talking about any certain event. i just think it should be aloud in all racing sports 717. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:53 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Once again, all because of the chase. What Harvick did was wrong, but this wouldn't have happened if this was the regular points standings. Anyways I'm switching to Logano for the year. I also want to see if he can win 4 in a row next week. 718. Lucstar88 posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:53 pm Rate this comment: (5) (0) http://i.imgur.com/7xNEbGr.gif ^His helmet and hands TELL ALL THE STORY! 719. OldSchoolNascarDude1 posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 714, He's waiting on Brian France to "crawl out" and make some rules up. 720. Danny posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (3) The 6 was behind Harvick the first time and everything was fine. Did he forget the 4 had some sort of engine problem? If there's just about anybody else in the 6 car, they get the benefit of the doubt. Bayne does not. He's been around this long and only had a handful of good performances. It's clear he's in over his head more often than not behind the wheel of that car. 721. Mamorese posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Forget the whole "Even bad headlines are a good thing" mantra. Ask Rutgers football if they agree with that school of thought 722. OldSchoolNascarDude1 posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:55 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) My personal opinion, I think Harvick and Childers said "screw it" after the race was given another unofficial restart. They said, "If NASCAR is going to make rules up, then we'll do what we have to do." 723. DB1995 posted: 10.25.2015 - 6:58 pm Rate this comment: (5) (0) Yeah, lets blame the driver that moved up to not run over a slow car for getting hooked in the quarter panel by the slower car. Trevor had 2 options 1, slam on the brakes and get wrecked for sure while causing a big mess or 2, going around the outside of a car that isn't up to speed where he would have definitely made it through had the slow car not turned right into his quarter panel. 724. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 7:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Helton and France have never cared about justice, or making the sport great. All they care about is money and publicity, and boy this is going to get a lot of it! 725. Jarrett88fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 7:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) NASCAR is in the sports entertainment industry officially with Richmond '11, 13' and now Talladega '15. 726. BMan0213 posted: 10.25.2015 - 7:01 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "And that's why Helton and France are mocked. Indycar and F1 have better leadership than this. Pathetic." I disagree with that all are equally bad and all need change. I will say I have no problem with Helton the interview he just did i thought he did a good job. He kind of just shut them up by saying what he did. Helton isn't the one who oversees the race (I want to say thats Hoots but i don't remember) so I cant fault him for how the race ended. Brian France is the main problem with the sport. He's the one who gets the final say on everything, then he just tells Helton to say it so some people will think he's the one to blame. France is the one who has driven the sport to where it is. He's the one that needs to go, but I don't see that happening anytime soon. 727. Mamorese posted: 10.25.2015 - 7:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @ 708 This is great. If you take a look at the official caution flags for that race you will see that they just extended the first caution period without ever delineating between the two. AND the green did momentarily display on the track lights. So this is an identical situation as to what happened today. NASCAR believe it or not was consistent. Everyone disputing the waved off green flag needs to see this. 728. Lucstar88 posted: 10.25.2015 - 7:02 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Here's another view. https://t.co/olTIXl1m4n (Facebook video) It's really clear, that Bayne already had the position, and Harvick just turns up! 729. BMan0213 posted: 10.25.2015 - 7:03 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) "NASCAR is in the sports entertainment industry officially with Richmond '11, 13' and now Talladega '15." Aren't all sports?.... i mean just look at the NFL they have basically made it impossible to play defense in order to raise scoring because they think people like higher scoring games. 730. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 7:09 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Lost in all of this is that Ricky Stenhouse gets another top 10. 731. BMan0213 posted: 10.25.2015 - 7:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Also to the people post the Harvick videos, sorry but that doesn't mean crap and won't get him in trouble. You need to remember, in Spingate, Bowyer's in car camera isn't what screwed MWR. Holding him in the pits for no reason and the radio communication between Ty Norris and Brian Vickers is what got them caught. If all NASCAR had was the in car camera like they currently do with Harvick MWR would have gotten away with it. As it stands nothing will happen to Harvick and honestly that is probably for the best. 732. I have posted: 10.25.2015 - 7:13 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) "Hindsight is 20/20, folks. You're gonna sit there and tell me -- with COMPLETE honesty -- that you're going to let off the gas, fade to the back and watch your championship hopes vanish right in front of you? AFTER having one of the most dominant seasons in NASCAR history? You're gonna throw ALL of that away and get eliminated because of this silly playoff system that punishes a driver for one race instead of rewarding them for their consistency throughout the year? Nah, man. You're either a fool or a liar. " Or maybe a MATURE, rational adult who is able to do the split second risk analysis anyone else out on the track should be able to do? When you're only option is to deliberately cause a wreck, and you proceed on taking that option, you have officially shown a complete lack of maturity because the same mentality would be a defensive lineman walking over to the opposing team's quarterback and smashing his skull open with a helmet. It is the kid who knocks over the game board when he's losing. 733. BMan0213 posted: 10.25.2015 - 7:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I want to say it was the 2012 spring dega race, I want to say they wrecked before or right at the line on a gwc attempt? Now i know they had three attempts then, but they didn't pull any BS and say we're redoing attempt number one they went to attempt number two. That seal it for me the race should have ended when Johnson went around, though I think the best option would have been to never throw the yellow in the first place. 734. TheHardTooth2216 posted: 10.25.2015 - 7:18 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I've never been more disappointed and angry at NASCAR than this weekend. NASCAR's stupid decision to only allow one GWC ruined two good races. Why couldn't they have just slowed the cars down if they wanted to make it safer? Yesterday ended extremely anti-climatically due to a super early yellow and today was ruined because if they had more than 1 GWC, Harvick probably would have never pulled that stunt. Even if he did he'd still have to survive another restart or two. 735. Evan posted: 10.25.2015 - 7:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsor Update 26th place Matt Kenseth DeWalt "Made In the U.S.A." The car was painted up in standard yellow and black and had American Flag Decor on it to state the tools were made in the USA. The words were on the hood and sides. Source:Jayski.com 736. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 7:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Another thing I noticed was that the announcers just swept it under the rug. At Richmond, DALE JARRETT, one of the biggest yes men in sports, called out MWR for their act, which I applauded. Meanwhile Burton only talked about the fact that NASCAR was right to throw the caution because of the wreck and was completely oblivious to Harvick going at a snails pace. 737. BMan0213 posted: 10.25.2015 - 7:52 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Another thing I noticed was that the announcers just swept it under the rug. At Richmond, DALE JARRETT, one of the biggest yes men in sports, called out MWR for their act, which I applauded. Meanwhile Burton only talked about the fact that NASCAR was right to throw the caution because of the wreck and was completely oblivious to Harvick going at a snails pace." This is a lot different than Richmond tho. again at Richmond you had Bowyer staying on pit road and the radio of the 55 team. Here you just have Rodney telling Harvick to Block which you can argue he tried to do. There's no smoking gun here like there was in Spingate. I mean we have seen hundreds of times drivers make dumb move that take out the whole field without meaning to cause a wreck. Who's to say that's not what happened here. Helton is 100% right in this situation. They can't do anything unless they can find something that shows he 100% intended to cause a wreck. I don't think that piece of evidence is out there and without it they can't nail Hravick for anything. 738. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 7:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Good point. 739. Benjamin LordLowe posted: 10.25.2015 - 7:59 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) If NASCAR dies it'll be because of nonsense like this 740. green white checker posted: 10.25.2015 - 8:07 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) I guess Harvick made joke out of Nascar again he restarts twice knowing his car is broke then deliberately wrecks a car for a caution. Last year he instigated a fight between his competitors. Nascar will continue to do nothing. Harvick can do whatever stupid shit benefits him. I didn't know if I was watching a real race or a video game 741. BMan0213 posted: 10.25.2015 - 8:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @740 Blame Harvick all you want, but the fact is if NASCAR didn't make up the rules as they go and either ended the race when the 48 spun like they should have when they put the yellow back out, or better yet just not throw the yellow at all the whole thing with Harvick wouldn't have happened. 742. racefangurl posted: 10.25.2015 - 8:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) If Harvick didn't really have car trouble, he should get a really high level penalty. 743. Anonymous posted: 10.25.2015 - 8:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I know that NASCAR deserves a lot of the heat it gets, but blaming NASCAR for what Harvick did is dumb. 744. BMan0213 posted: 10.25.2015 - 8:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I know that NASCAR deserves a lot of the heat it gets, but blaming NASCAR for what Harvick did is dumb." Not really. If NASCAR followed their own f'ing rules Harvick never would have been in situation to do what he did. They indirectly hold fault for what happened on the last restart that probably shouldn't have happened in the first place. Moving on after seeing the interviews by Alan Cavanna that were shown on fox a little while ago it seems like the drivers feel like NASCAR has lost control of this Chase format. I honestly think this is the last we'll see of this Chase. It may still be elimination style but there are gonna be some changes made to it for next year 745. TS1420 posted: 10.25.2015 - 8:45 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) I don't really think 4 team intentionally tried "fixing" the race like MWR, but it was still a dumb-ass move on their part. But if anything I think they got frustrated with NASCAR's constant meddling with races and their "Who's Line is it Anyway?" Rulebook. -Welp, we'll take our lumps and move out of the way for the "only" GWC attempt and hope for the best. -Hot damn! We caught a break and the race ends under cau.... WTF? NASCAR is restarting the race again? BULL****! -F it... Block everybody you can and hope they wreck. 746. green white checker posted: 10.25.2015 - 8:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (3) @ 741 Good point Harvick is the clown in the circus of nascar 747. Schroeder51 posted: 10.25.2015 - 8:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) You can't really blame NASCAR for Harvick's actions on the final restart, and as I've said, I actually more or less agree with NASCAR's calls towards the end of the race. They did make the right call in giving the win to Logano since he was definitely out in front when the caution flew, and though I was not sure it was the right call to throw out the restart when Johnson spun, when nascarman linked to a video that showed sort of a precedent for that...I can at least let that slide. But I still feel like Harvick OUGHT to be punished for what he did. I doubt he will, however, for reasons that BMan pretty much mentioned. It isn't AS blatant as Spingate (where the whole MWR team piled all sorts of extra shenanigans on top of Bowyer's intentional spin and basically made themselves look like ultra dumbasses as a result). Besides, I DOUBT Harvick would blab his mouth that he did it on purpose...He may be a fairly hotheaded driver, but he's not stupid. He's not going to run his mouth and say something that would make it blatantly obvious and give NASCAR all the reasons needed to punish him... All I can say is, I REALLY hope the last 4 Chase races don't have THIS much wacky nonsense in the closing stages. We KNOW that's almost certainly not going to happen, but one can hope...right? And of course, I'm not going anywhere near Youtube videos of the finish or NASCAR.com comment sections, because you KNOW that they're all full of pissed off Junior fanboys crying that he deserved to get in or that he actually WAS ahead of Logano and NASCAR got it wrong...I value my brain too much to purposely subject myself to those levels of butthurt! 748. BMan0213 posted: 10.25.2015 - 8:53 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @745 Knowing Harvick i wouldn't be shocked if that's exactly what went through his head, and honestly if it was I'd have even less of a problem with the fact he did it. NASCAR not being able to follow their own rules/making up the rules as they go is what made this situation occur. 749. Premium Doesn't Suck 62 66 94 98 posted: 10.25.2015 - 8:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsor updates: #3 WeatherTech/Dow #32 C&J Energy Services/Breast Care Awareness #42 Target/Axe Breast Care Awareness Plaid #10 GoDaddy Breast Care Awareness #95 K-LOVE Radio #38 Love's Travel Stops/TirePass #33 Little Joe's Auto #47 Kroger/Bush's/Scott Products #1 Cessna/Bad Boy Buggies Breast Care Awareness 750. cjs3872 posted: 10.25.2015 - 9:01 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) Here are my thoughts on what transpired at Talladega. First, I want to congratulate Joey Logano on sweeping the Challenger Round of the Chase (Round 2). It's the first time anyone's swept a round (or win more than once in a Chase round, for that matter), and I doubt that what Logano did is going to be repeated any time soon, if ever. And after that final incident, which I'll get to, NASCAR got the call right, and frankly, I'm surprised it took them as long as it did, because replays clearly showed Logano ahead at the time the caution lights were displayed. Ironically, it was a push from Dale, Jr.'s teammate Jeff Gordon that may have cost him the win and advancing to the next round. And by the way, how ironic is it that, despite all of what's happened at HMS regarding Jeff Gordon's imminent retirement and the effect it's had at HMS (and I think it's had a big impact), that it's Gordon that is now HMS' last shot at the title in 2015. Now for the big brew-ha at the finish. Anyone who saw what happened knew it was obvious that Kevin Harvick intentionally and blatantly spun out Trevor Bayne to cause that wreck at the end, knowing that with a bad gearbox that he'd never get up to speed until it was far too late. Matt Kenseth and Denny Hamlin were right on regarding what happened there. After all, when a driver turns right into another car at 50-60 MPH at Talladega, it's pretty obvious what's going on, and no radio communication is needed to deliver the proof of the intent. And this is not the first time Harvick's tried this. At Watkins Glen, when he ran out of fuel on the last lap while leading, he deliberately took a swipe at Logano, hoping to wreck him on the last turn. If I was the commissioner of NASCAR, I would, based on the situation itself, slap Harvick with a penalty that would be enough to keep him from advancing, and with only a 6-point lead on Ryan Newman (isn't that ironic?), I would slap at least a 10-point penalty on Harvick, enough to knock him out and put Newman in, since the penalty would drop Harvick behind Newman in the points. And since that penalty would prevent Harvick from possibly defending his championship, I think that would be stiff enough. Of course, the irony where Ryan Newman is concerned is that he was the driver that benefitted when NASCAR dropped the hammer (and ultimately the death penalty) on Michael waltrip Racing after the events at Richmond two years ago. Newman was going to win that race, and would have garnered enough points to make the Chase that year, based on how they were running, but MWR's brass had Clint Bowyer spin out intentionally to benefit Martin Truex, Jr. The ensuing caution resulted in Carl Edwards winning the race instead of Newman, and knocked Newman out while putting Truex in, something NASCAR rectified a few days later. Based on the current points, Newman would again be the beneficiary should NASCAR drop the hammer on Harvick, as it should. The two drivers you really have to feel for as a result of that last incident are Newman and Trevor Bayne. You have to feel for Newman for the reasons mentioned above, and in the midst of a terrible rookie season where he's often been uncompetitive, Bayne's finally in a position to get a good finish (he's not been better than ninth all year), and not only is he deliberately wrecked on a restart, but Bayne winds up being in the center of a HUGE controversy when he did absolutely nothing wrong. The only positive for Bayne and Roush Racing is that at least it figures to keep them in the headlines for a while in what's been the worst year in the history of Roush Racin, as well as the fact that Greg Biffle wins this race by more than three-quarters of a lap if Jamie McMurray doesn't blow his engine with about four laps to go in the scheduled 188-lap distance. The call by Biffle's crew chief to try to stretch the mileage was one of the most brilliant any crew chief has made all season long, and came within a blown engine of creating the biggest margin of victory at Talladega since 1979. 751. BMan0213 posted: 10.25.2015 - 9:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I do think NASCAR has one way out in this. People are forgetting about the the illegal parts on all the SHR cars yesterday. whos to say they don't call that say a P3 or 4 penalty and deduct all the cars points. Spingate set the precedent that point penalty would be enforced BEFORE the points reset. IDK how far Kurt was ahead of the cut line so he might also get knocked out too, but having this on the table could make NASCAR Drop the hammer on the whole SHR team just to punish Harvick. 752. GrahamRahalFan2015 posted: 10.25.2015 - 9:06 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Webmaster, you need to fix the link for the Phoenix race from earlier this year. Whenever i click on it to go to the page, it takes you to THIS race! LOL. I was trying to see how many races have ended under caution in the past 11 years (under the GWC rule) and compare that to the 11 years prior. 753. Lucstar88 posted: 10.25.2015 - 9:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @750 I heard since it's cosmetic parts, it wouldn't be that big of a penalty. Also I heard that the penalty may carry into the next round, saving Harvick. 754. GrahamRahalFan2015 posted: 10.25.2015 - 9:09 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I did go to Jayski and saw that there had been 88 RACES since 2004 that had a Green-White-Checkered (Including this race and the Kansas race. For some reason he hasn't updated that stats page yet to include the Kansas race). So if there was never a Green-White-Checkered rule, there would have been 88 OTHER races that would've ended under caution! LOL 755. JG24FanForever posted: 10.25.2015 - 9:16 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) Jeff Gordon ends his career on restrictor plate tracks with the most wins(12), the most Poles(9), the 2nd most Top 5's(29) and the 2nd most Top 10's(41). Big E and June are the two greatest Plate track drivers of all-time, and Gordon is a clear 3rd. Gordon moving on to the next round is the icing on the cake for what was an awesome weekend for Rainbow nation. 756. BMan0213 posted: 10.25.2015 - 9:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Now for the big brew-ha at the finish. Anyone who saw what happened knew it was obvious that Kevin Harvick intentionally and blatantly spun out Trevor Bayne to cause that wreck at the end, knowing that with a bad gearbox that he'd never get up to speed until it was far too late. Matt Kenseth and Denny Hamlin were right on regarding what happened there. After all, when a driver turns right into another car at 50-60 MPH at Talladega, it's pretty obvious what's going on, and no radio communication is needed to deliver the proof of the intent. And this is not the first time Harvick's tried this. At Watkins Glen, when he ran out of fuel on the last lap while leading, he deliberately took a swipe at Logano, hoping to wreck him on the last turn. If I was the commissioner of NASCAR, I would, based on the situation itself, slap Harvick with a penalty that would be enough to keep him from advancing, and with only a 6-point lead on Ryan Newman (isn't that ironic?), I would slap at least a 10-point penalty on Harvick, enough to knock him out and put Newman in, since the penalty would drop Harvick behind Newman in the points. And since that penalty would prevent Harvick from possibly defending his championship, I think that would be stiff enough." I have a problem with all of this. First, Harvick didn't take a swipe at Joey at the Glen, He tried to bump him. His car still had power when he made that move that's how he got back to Joey after his car sputtered in the turn before. He was trying to pass him not wreck him. Second as I said before the in car camera is not enough evidence to prove what he did was on purpose. while I think I did how can you not be sure he wasn't trying to get out of the way or just block like he said he was gonna do. This leads me to 3 you can't penalize him ANYTHING without more evidence. Bowyers in car camera did nothing to nail MWR in Spingate. NASCAR even came out and said that. They got MWR because of the RADIO COMMUNICATION from the 55 team. without that MWR would have gotten away with what they did. There is no smoking gun here with Harvick. Unless something else comes up a penalty on him for causing the wreck can not be justified. 757. GrahamRahalFan2015 posted: 10.25.2015 - 9:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @754, My nickname on this website used to be VERY, VERY SIMILAR to yours; the only difference was that mine was JGordon24FanForever. lol. I noticed that last year after i made my Eldora fantasy picks on here and looked at the standings and saw your name. LOL. I was confused for a minute 758. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 9:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) With 3 hours to think, I don't think Harvick's goal was to wreck anyone at first. On the first try he pulled up the track out of everyone's way. However after the second time he went in line, and it was most likely after the restart confusion by NASCAR. He was still wrong for doing it though. I hope NASCAR will make it back to 3 attempts on plate tracks again though...The fans were not pleased at all lol 759. Ryan W posted: 10.25.2015 - 9:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) You have to feel bad for Jr., too. Another sec or two he would have won. They probably should have had another restart since they did after the first one. Guarantee you if they would have stuck with the 3 GWC rules they would have counted the first one accident. What Harvick did was something similar to Jim Cornette bringing out the tennis racquet and nailing Bayne 760. 88&Ex4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 9:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) "At Watkins Glen, when he ran out of fuel on the last lap while leading, he deliberately took a swipe at Logano, hoping to wreck him on the last turn." As pissed as I am at Harvick right now, I disagree with that statement. At the Glen he was not trying to wreck Logano, Logano was going a lot faster than him and he misjudged the space between the cars. "Big E and June are the two greatest Plate track drivers of all-time, and Gordon is a clear 3rd." I only know one poster in the history of this site who called Dale Jr "June" before... not trying to imply anything, just pointing it out. BTW this is only a temporary name, I'll more than likely get over it and go back to 88&4Fan by tomorrow. But I did lose a LOT of respect for him today. 761. Ryan W posted: 10.25.2015 - 9:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "IDK how far Kurt was ahead of the cut line so he might also get knocked out too, but having this on the table could make NASCAR Drop the hammer on the whole SHR team just to punish Harvick." Yea, the franchise mode starting early. 762. JG24Ever posted: 10.25.2015 - 9:50 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) With the whole that happened at the end of this race, it really makes me wish that NASCAR would've analyzed the circumstances that surrounded the Austin Dillon crash properly, with how it happened on the first of three GWC attempts in the race, because then, I think, that we would've ended up with no GWC attempts as the rule, instead of three. Then, as a result, we might be talking about Greg Biffle pulling off an unbelievable fuel mileage victory in one of the best races all year long, and one of the best Talladega races in awhile, but I guess as the old Rolling Stones song goes, "You can't always get what you want". 763. 88&Ex4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 9:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) All you need to know: https://t.co/olTIXl1m4n 764. cjs3872 posted: 10.25.2015 - 9:54 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @756, when I said that Harvick took a swipe at Logano after running out of fuel at Watkins Glen, that was before he rammed him on the last turn. As Logano was passing an out-of-fuel Harvick, Harvick took a swipe at him, and then rammed into him in the last corner. And also, in the MWR "SpinGate" fiasco, there were multiple layers involved, including collusion among the Penske and Front Row teams, which resulted in Jeff Gordon being added to the Chase as the 13th driver. What happened there was obviously intentional, but the radio communications among the MWR teams was needed, not only to prove that Bowyer's spin was intentional, but also to prove the collusion among the MWR teams to get Martin Truex, Jr. into the Chase, so there were more layers in that situation than there are here. Here, you have a case of a driver blatantly and intentionally causing a multi-car crash because his own car couldn't get up to speed on the restart, and knowing that if another caution came out, the race was over. And while the on-track result was far worse than anything that happened in the two SpinGate fiascos at Richmond in 2011 and '13 (11 cars ended up wrecked), there certainly wasn't collusion among multiple race teams. That's why I don't think the penalties should be as sweeping as they were after the 2013 fiasco, but they should be enough to knock Kevin Harvick out of the Chase. Ironically, if NASCAR does penalize SHR for not only what happened today, but also the pre-qualifying inspection mess (and that could result in sweeping penalties across SHR that could knock out not only Harvick, but also Kurt Busch, if the violations are deemed to be severe enough), that Ryan Newman would be the big beneficiary, just as he was in 2013, when he was driving for very same team Harvick drives for now. 765. BMan0213 posted: 10.25.2015 - 9:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @761 Not really... All the SHR cars had the same illegal parts on them. You can't just get Harvick and let Tony, Kurt, and Danica off. All would have to have the same penalty. The way I worded it like i did is because knowing NASCAR who's to say they wouldn't go way overboard on the parts penalty (if there is one) which would effect all the SHR cars because they all had the same problem just to screw Harvick because while they know he wrecked the field they don't have enough evidence to give him a penalty for that. 766. NadeauFan91 posted: 10.25.2015 - 10:04 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I haven't posted in almost a year (from what I remember), so I thought I'd come back and say that if Harvick isn't penalized, then the NASCAR officials have no balls. Absolutely disgusting move at the end there by him. 767. BMan0213 posted: 10.25.2015 - 10:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) @764. I don't think you get it. Even with all the layers in Spingate the 55's radio was what allowed them to connect all the dots. It was the smoking gun. Without it there isn't enough there to get MWR. Same for letting Jeff into the Chase. That doesn't happen unless they find the radio communication from the 38 that is saying Penske want's them to slow up to help Joey get in. There is NOTHING like that with the 4 car. You can't penalize Harvick for purposely wrecking the field because there is nothing that shows he did. How do you not know he didn't look to the right to try to throw a block and he mistimed it which caused the wreck? All the radio from the 4 car shows is Rodney telling Harvick to hope they wreck past the line and Harvick then saying he was gonna block. There is nothing there where Harvick either says or is told to wreck the field. Without that can't penalize him, it's that cut and dry. 768. Roger posted: 10.25.2015 - 10:12 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) With the elimination of Ryan Newman, Jeff Gordon is the only winless driver left in the Chase. Winning a championship under one of NASCAR's foolish imitation playoff systems, after losing a few because of them, would be a nice way to end a career. Not to mention that a winless driver being a "champion" would call even more attention to NASCAR's bumbling. Newman winning would have accomplished that last year, and he came pretty close. In racing the full-year champion should be the champion, no matter what the stick-and-ball sports do. 769. 88&Ex4Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 10:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Brad Keselowski apparently thinks that today was great for NASCAR fans. SMH 770. Benjamin LordLowe posted: 10.25.2015 - 10:12 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) The biggest change NASCAR needs if it wants to avoid heading to the junkyard in the next decade is a change in leadership 771. JG24FanForever posted: 10.25.2015 - 10:12 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) How about the rise of Joey Logano? 11 consecutive Top 10 finishes with 5 wins in that stretch. 6 wins, the most this season. 3 consecutive wins. 14 career wins, tying him with Dick Hutcherson and LeeRoy Yarbrough. I find this season eerily similar to the 1980 and 1995 seasons, with Logano becoming an Earnhardt/Gordon like driver, and looking to become the next Cup champion. 772. Anonymous posted: 10.25.2015 - 10:16 pm Rate this comment: (1) (6) Congrats to Dale Jr. for his third straight restrictor plate win. 773. Thomas posted: 10.25.2015 - 10:20 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Let's look at the evidence that we have available to us regarding Harvick at the end of the race. 1. Harvick said over the radio that it was blowing up and his car definitely was running like it had a mechanical problem. Being that his spot in the next round wasn't secure, he would have to be insane to gamble his spot that much trying to play head games with the field. Granted all the drivers are a little insane to do what they do, but this would take a special level to fake a mechanical problem with your championship hopes on the line. 2. On the (let's call it) aborted GWC attempt, Harvick's car definitely had problems trying to get up to speed. Instead of taking his problem into account under the same principle as failing to maintain pace car speed and moving him back in the order (not a huge stretch of the rule, though certainly bending it's normal use), NASCAR resets the field in the order they were in before the aborted attempt except for the cars that spun. 3. Harvick's crew tells him on the radio to block and save the spots he can, even though his car would be significantly slower than anybody else's on the track. What do they expect would happen? Or course there's going to be a wreck. They had to be banking on it happening further back in the pack though before he became too much of a rolling roadblock. 4. The synchronized TV footage that shows Harvick clearly looking in his mirror before turning up into Bayne to start The Big One. Of course Harvick is going to deny intentionally causing the wreck as his spot in the Chase could depend on it. The evidence certainly isn't in his favor though. I'm not sure how NASCAR came up with the explanation they did...other than maybe they were having a Budweiser or two while talking things over. 774. 28DaveyAllison28 posted: 10.25.2015 - 10:23 pm Rate this comment: (1) (3) Harvick is a punk! He done that on purpose when he knew his engine was blown to freeze the field..f--- that sob. I paid for three days of camping, not to mention took three days off work to come watch this crap! I will NEVER come back to a na$car race again 775. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 10:25 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) "Congrats to Dale Jr. for his third straight restrictor plate win." I'm sorry that your driver didn't win. 776. cjs3872 posted: 10.25.2015 - 10:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Unless, BMan0213, that communication mentioning Harvick blocking the field and Rodney Childers hoping for a wreck just after the restart wasn't some sort of code for Harvick to initiate such an action (and Trevor Bayne was an easy, soft target for him to use to spin out, especially considering he's run at the back most of the year). I don't think it was, but what was caught by NBC may not be all there is to that. And again, if NASCAR penalizes SHR across the board for the pre-qualifying inspection violations, this might be a moot point, not only for Harvick, but also for Kurt Busch, because he could also lose his spot in the next round of the Chase if the pre-qualifying inspection violations are deemed to be severe enough to warrant such heavy punishment. The one thing we know is that there was not collusion among multiple teams, as there was in 2013 at Richmond. 777. Thomas posted: 10.25.2015 - 10:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I will give Moldy Bread credit for going for the win to keep Jr. out of the next round though. Who would Moldy Bread rather be contending with? Jr. who might win next week at Martinsville and also likely be a threat at Texas or Rowdy who hasn't won a Cup race after Labor Day since 2005? 778. BMan0213 posted: 10.25.2015 - 10:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @773 They said what they said because there is nothing there to nail Harvick. As you said Harvick said said he was gonna block and before he made his move he looked to his right. The fact is he very well could have been trying to throw a block and messed up causing the wreck. As bad as it looks blocking is 100% legal in NASCAR unless something else comes up that proves he intentionally wrecked the field, there is no way to prove Harvick didn't just screw up a block. Unless NASCAR finds either someone telling Harvick to cause a wreck, or Harvick himself saying he was gonna cause a wreck you can't penalize him. 779. Anonymous posted: 10.25.2015 - 10:31 pm Rate this comment: (2) (4) "I'm sorry that your driver didn't win." Meh, if the Gordon fans can get away with "Congrats Jeff on your fifth/sixth championships," I should get away with saying something of the like. Can't say Jr. didn't deserve it today. Well, I mean, anyone CAN say it. It just proves they're idiots. 780. cjs3872 posted: 10.25.2015 - 10:32 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) And @773, you wonder if the reason Greg Biffle pitted when he did just before the aborted GWC restart was because he was afraid of potentially being a rolling road block at the very front of the field if he either ran out of fuel on the restart, or the car wouldn't go because of being so low on fuel, and decided to pit and not do what Kevin Harvick eventually ended up doing on the official GWC restart. He had fuel left when he pitted, but he had so little fuel left that, instead of restarting at the front and being a potential rolling road block for the ENTIRE field, he pitted to prevent that from happening. 781. BMan0213 posted: 10.25.2015 - 10:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @776 Maybe it was a code for him, but yet again how do you prove that it was? It's a dead end. There's nothing there. the only way Harvick gets knocked out is if NASCAR get him and SHR as a whole for what happened on Saturday. There's not enough evidence for him to get a penalty for what happened on the last restart. 782. MelloYellow posted: 10.25.2015 - 10:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) It's about time someone else takes over NA$CAR who will let them race to this finish with no polices, procedures except RACING TO THE LINE TO DETERMINE THE WINNER, no matter the circumstances. I refuse to watch NA$CAR until Brain Frane, John Derby & Mike Helton are fired!! They are the biggest idiots I've ever seen in professional sports trying make calls .. Ought be damn if I bought a ticket, paid high price to watch this race & left without knowing what happend 783. Nascar Lead Lap Points posted: 10.25.2015 - 11:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Owner Update #98 Michael Waltrip 784. Nascar Lead Lap Points posted: 10.25.2015 - 11:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) To The rear #31 Ryan Newman (Driver Choice) #26 JJ Yeley (Driver Choice) #62 Timmy Hill (Driver Choice) 785. STATMAN posted: 10.25.2015 - 11:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Joey Lagano became the first person in NASCAR history to sweep a round in the Chase after winning this race 786. Ryan W posted: 10.25.2015 - 11:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Although 774 has some negatives, I would feel a lot of displeasure as well towards Nascar. You spend time and money and sometimes plan all year for some garbage finish like that. I would be pissed, too. Nascar needs to be consistent because year after year at seems like something happens and they make their rules up as they go. I'm just looking for some tables, ladders, and chairs at Martinsville. 787. Bronco posted: 10.25.2015 - 11:48 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Have not posted on this site in a long time since my interest in NASCAR has faded over the last few years, especially with the advent of the gimmicky new Chase. However I still do faithfully watch restrictor plate races since they're my favorite kind of racing. This was the worst finish to a Talladega race that I've seen in a long time. 1) They took away the multiple GWC rule (which was a great idea and gave us the classic 2010 Aaron's 499 finish) in the name of safety....and yet we still had a massive crash that took away what could have been a great finish had they attempted to restart the race and give it a chance to end under green. I want to see a race decided by actual racing and not a video camera. Absolutely pathetic finish to both the Truck race and today's event. 2) I have no comments on whether the ## spinning the #6 was intentional or not, but when you have an idiotic points system where your entire season comes down to a three week window, you're going to have stupid moves like that. The 2015 champion will be whoever has fresh tires for the GWC at Homestead. 3) This is the second year in a row that a driver entered Talladega second in points after claiming two top 5s and went home eliminated. Absolute BS. 4) Also they needed a full 10 laps at NASCAR's longest track to clean up the oil from Jamie McMurray's blown engine? Really?? 5) This is the third Talladega race that Junior had won, only to have it slip away at the very end (2004 spring race and 2006 fall race were the others). 6) Nice recovery for the #78 team to finish in the top 10 after being a lap down most of the day. 788. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.25.2015 - 11:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @787 The caution was 10 laps because Jimmie Johnson and Kyle Larson spun in the trioval coming to restart and it was waved off. But I agree. Without the chase this never would've happened. 789. WinstonCupStandings posted: 10.26.2015 - 1:39 am Rate this comment: (1) (1) 1) Joey Logano (4838) -Leader 2) Kevin Harvick (4757) -81 3) Brad Keselowski (4404) -434 4) Dale Earnhardt, Jr. (4372) -466 5) Martin Truex, Jr. (4214) -624 -Out 6) Matt Kenseth (4161) -677 -Out 7) Jimmie Johnson (4157) -681 -Out 8) Denny Hamlin (4153) -685 -Out 9) Carl Edwards (4025) -813 -Out 10) Kurt Busch (3994) -844 -Out 790. WinstonCupStandings posted: 10.26.2015 - 1:51 am Rate this comment: (1) (1) If Logano finishes third or better in the next four races, the championship is his, and after the shit Harvick pulled, i'm rooting for Logano (to finish second to Gordon in the next four races Lol). 791. Guest posted: 10.26.2015 - 4:17 am Rate this comment: (2) (0) Logano isn't winning anything, his luck can't get any better right now. Peaking to early, he will have some trouble down the stretch guaranteed. 792. Anonymous posted: 10.26.2015 - 4:53 am Rate this comment: (2) (1) Of the drivers left in the Chase, Joey Logano definitely most deserves to win the championship. Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing Martin Truex Jr. or Jeff Gordon win, but outside of those three I'd have a bad taste in my mouth. Both Buschs needed exemptions from NASCAR to even be Chase-eligible (not like that rule means anything when no driver has ever been denied an exemption), Harvick should (but won't) receive a points penalty and be parked, Edwards was terrible over the first half of the season, and Keselowski's a big-mouth whiner who has been completely overshadowed by Logano the entire season. 793. John Royal posted: 10.26.2015 - 7:07 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) One of the most enjoyable Talladega races I have seen. I was happy to see long spans of green flag racing while lack of big wrecks eliminating half of the competitors. The ending however left bad taste of this race. When it started to matter many drivers were unable to wheel their automobiles with required skill set. 1. I would like to get rid of double file restarts at least on these type of tracks. 2. Track could be divided into 3-4 sectors. In case of a caution, drivers would race into next closest sector and that would be the race finish line. Active sector could be marked with flashing green light so drivers know where they are going for. 3. Move the start/finish line right after turn 4. I know it is not best for spectators, but at least the inevitable final big one happens in turn 4 and not in front of main grandstands. 794. JRacingFast posted: 10.26.2015 - 7:12 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) After much time to process the ending bof yesterday's race I think the only way I'm going to watch Homestead is if Gordon and Truex are apart of the final four....Why may you ask? Gordon right now is in position to be this year's Newman....Which I hope to god happens why? He gets #5 and he sticks it to NASCAR on how dumb this system is....Hopefully he channels his "refuse to lose" attitude we have seen outbof Gordon the past few seasons.... Other then that Truex would be a great story for a single car team....And if Logano doesn't win I expect a rant like he had last year after Homestead 795. rex posted: 10.26.2015 - 7:13 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) 793: Definitely like #2 796. John Royal posted: 10.26.2015 - 7:35 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Now that I think of it, just two sectors would be enough. The second finish line could be at the end of the backstretch. In a case of last lap crash, drivers could race to the closest finish line and it would eliminate the danger of racing back around to the crash scene. It really doesn't matter at which part of the track the crash happens, it would be pretty safe. I never been to Talladega, but I believe spectators have also pretty good view on to the backstretch. So they could see how the race ends. 797. oldschoolracing519 posted: 10.26.2015 - 7:47 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) don't count on Harvick and Kurt Busch advancing just yet, remember all the Stewart-Haas cars failed inspection and had to make changes to their cars just to be allowed to qualify. They might just get penalties that will take both them out far enough to bring Newman and Hamlin into the chase 798. John Royal posted: 10.26.2015 - 8:02 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) My Chase prediction: Joey Logano: Peaked too early, statistics will bite him. Also might get hard time from Kenseth that affects his performance. Carl Edwards: Random bad luck and his own mistakes bites him. Jeff Gordon: Might luck himself into a Homestead by winning at Martinsville. Other than that, just under performs the whole time. Kurt Busch: Similar case with Gordon, under performs when it really matters. But if it comes to points, is still better off than Gordon. Brad Keselowski: With a "surprise" win in next round goes to Homestead. Martin Truex Jr: Goes to Homestead with points. Kevin Harvick: Wins and goes to Homestead. Kyle Busch: Inevitable happens and will melt down and finish last in this contender round. Homestead: Gordon/Kurt Busch Keselowski Truex Harvick 799. Truexfan78 posted: 10.26.2015 - 8:22 am Rate this comment: (0) (2) This weekend was marked on the calender and was a waste of my time. Thank you brian france this doesnt gain fans. this LOSSES fans 800. Truexfan78 posted: 10.26.2015 - 8:23 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) makes me sick 801. Truexfan78 posted: 10.26.2015 - 8:25 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I wouldnt mind a 1 attempt of a green/white. no need for 2 laps. if it was a green/white then the finish would be exciting for the truck race. that was ruined by a caution 802. Terminator posted: 10.26.2015 - 8:39 am Rate this comment: (3) (0) Who could take Na$car seriously any more?The chase is a complete joke of a format.WWE on wheels!What a laughing stock. 803. JP88 posted: 10.26.2015 - 8:51 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wow I can't believe Harvick did that. I'm a Jr. fan so I'm upset that he didn't get a shot at the end but honestly he cost himself the race with the last stop. Still unreal that they couldn't even get past the S/F line on the restart. Amazing 804. RWR posted: 10.26.2015 - 9:08 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Entry list for Martinsville, according to Jayski: Alex Kennedy in the #33 Brett Moffitt in the 34 Kyle "Flower " in the 32 Michael Waltrip in the 98, but it's probably an error. http://www.jayski.com/news/stats/2015/story/_/page/33-Martinsville-2015-Entry-List 805. Tylor Thaber posted: 10.26.2015 - 9:20 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) @774 Talk about a ragequit. Honestly I just want to forget this race and move on. I'll be skipping the next couple races, but will watch Homestead, mostly because I like that track for some reason. 806. Charters Think About It posted: 10.26.2015 - 9:34 am Rate this comment: (0) (3) After this circus of a race...the charter system now doesn't sound so bad...does it? 807. Tylor Thaber posted: 10.26.2015 - 9:34 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) And one last thing, I took a look at the comments on NASCAR.com and Facebook. I think this clip sums up most of what was being said. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEG9ikYaMEQ 808. green white checker posted: 10.26.2015 - 9:54 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) I thought the whole reason for limiting the green white checker attempts was for the safety of the the drivers/fans. So I guess Harvick is allowed to restart with a broke Car.and wreck people on purpose 809. 02Justin10 posted: 10.26.2015 - 10:56 am Rate this comment: (1) (3) So, this race featured 43 of the world's best drivers? 810. 88&4Fan posted: 10.26.2015 - 10:56 am Rate this comment: (1) (3) Well as you can see with the name I have (somewhat) forgiven Harvick, for now. I still lost a LOT of respect for him yesterday, and he is on a probation of sorts, meaning if he does ANYTHING else then he is done getting support from me. And I certainly don't want him to win the championship this year. This is how I feel about each driver winning: Logano: You probably know how I feel about him in general, but after his cheap shot move in Kansas, I REALLY don't want him to win. Edwards: Honestly I'd be much happier with him winning than a lot of other people, only because he hasn't been involved in any major controversies this year. Gordon: Has driven like hot garbage for much of the year and we'd never hear the end of it if he won it in his last season. Kurt Busch: I kind of want to see him win because of the BS he went through early in the year, but I know NASCAR will never let it happen (see Fontana and Chicago for examples). Keselowski: Still has a bad taste in my mouth from his antics during last years chase, but I'd actually rather see him win than a few other people. Truex: Probably the only person in the chase now who I would have absolutely no problem with winning the championship. Cheering for him to win it now that Junior's out and Harvick made an ass out of himself. Harvick: If he wins after the crap he pulled yesterday this will be a tainted championship. Kyle Busch: Can't take him seriously as a championship contender after missing eleven races. Besides he'll likely crash and burn like he always does when it comes to crunch time, and he's been horrible in the chase so far being one of the last drivers to advance to both rounds. So pretty much Truex, Edwards, Kurt Busch (it'll never happen though) and I guess Keselowski (NEVER thought I'd say that) are the only drivers who I'll be satisfied with winning. 811. Lucstar88 posted: 10.26.2015 - 11:33 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) What's worse is being a fan of both NASCAR and WWE. WWE is more interesting to watch and enjoy than this. 812. Ryan W posted: 10.26.2015 - 11:49 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) John Royal, I like the sector idea. Had they had something like that on the backstretch it would have been a close finish between the 22 and 88. To be honest though with restarts at Daytona and 'dega you could restart the race single file, double, triple, quadruple and there's always potential for a big one to happen. Although single file might be safer there's always potential for a major wreck to happen. The 1997 Pepsi 400 one lap shootout cost Mark Martin the championship that year and it was single file and there have been other times where similar wrecks have happened like that. With plate racing there's the potential for a big one to occur no matter how you stack it up. 813. 1995 Subaru WRX STi posted: 10.26.2015 - 12:07 pm Rate this comment: (4) (1) No outrage over people throwing stuff on the track? At Joey? No outrage at all? What a society we live in now a days. NASCAR fans act like cavemen and get away with it. 814. The Long Shot posted: 10.26.2015 - 12:23 pm Rate this comment: (2) (3) "Logano: You probably know how I feel about him in general, but after his cheap shot move in Kansas, I REALLY don't want him to win." You mean when Kenseth was blocking him like crazy and essentially spun himself out? Far from a cheap shot move; more like just a typical racing deal. "No outrage over people throwing stuff on the track? At Joey? No outrage at all? What a society we live in now a days. NASCAR fans act like cavemen and get away with it." I thought I saw shit flying onto the track while Logano was doing his burnout. Yeah, I don't know why NASCAR doesn't patrol that kind of trash more; probably just doesn't want to piss off JOONYER NATION, or essentially 90% of their fan base. 815. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.26.2015 - 12:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (3) "Junior Nation acts like cavemen and get away with it." Fixed. 816. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.26.2015 - 12:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "So, this race featured 43 of the world's best drivers?" It featured 43 of the world's best drivers, in the words of Joe Nemechek, "not using their heads." 817. The Long Shot posted: 10.26.2015 - 12:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "And that's why Helton and France are mocked. Indycar and F1 have better leadership than this. Pathetic." Barnhardt? Ecclestone? Lol. Let's just face it: auto racing as a whole is run by a bunch of dipshits. 818. Scott B posted: 10.26.2015 - 12:54 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Thoughts... "don't count on Harvick and Kurt Busch advancing just yet, remember all the Stewart-Haas cars failed inspection and had to make changes to their cars just to be allowed to qualify. They might just get penalties that will take both them out far enough to bring Newman and Hamlin into the chase" NASCAR won't penalize Harvick or SHR, this is what NASCAR wanted when they set up the first chase and even more so with the elimination system chase. "No outrage over people throwing stuff on the track?" I don't see why post-race throwing stuff on the track is a big deal. In-race it would be an outrage and a special kind of stupid. It's not a PGA tour event, though. "So, this race featured 43 of the world's best drivers?" Yes. Where else would you see drivers even attempt to run in close packs at these speeds? Nowhere. "After this circus of a race...the charter system now doesn't sound so bad...does it?" Completely irrelevant. 819. The Long Shot posted: 10.26.2015 - 1:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) "I don't see why post-race throwing stuff on the track is a big deal. In-race it would be an outrage and a special kind of stupid." It takes a special kind of stupid to do it at all. A kind of stupid which JOONYER NATION majors in. 820. RaceFanX posted: 10.26.2015 - 1:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm very surprised there's not more uproar over items being thrown on the track after the race too. There was a huge outcry after Talladega's fans belted the track and race winner Jeff Gordon while he was celebrating with thousands of beer cans and seat cushions after he won here in the spring of 2004 when the race ended under caution and the fans also thought it "screwed" runner-up Dale Earnhardt Jr. out of a chance to win. That result was one of a few in 2004 that led to the development of the green-white-checker later that year. 821. 88&4Fan posted: 10.26.2015 - 1:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Long Shot, I know you're a Logano fan so its understandable that you would have some bias towards him. However, Kenseth was blocking him because he NEEDED to win to advance, and Joey essentially dumped him in the next turn. That was my perspective. As for the Jr fans throwing stuff at Joey, I think I may have seen about four or five cans thrown at him. It was nothing compared to Gordon in '04 and '07, but nonetheless it is still wrong. But coming from a Jr fan who does not care for Logano at all, I will admit that Logano won that race fairly (under the circumstances that is, because things almost certainly would've played out differently if NASCAR didn't royally screw up on the GWC rules) so lets not lump all Jr fans together please. 822. David posted: 10.26.2015 - 1:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "lol, Everybody has. I'm just saying that once you stop posting so much (like I have this year), when you do come back to a controversial race like this, the negativity is f**king glaring." ^This. It's a lot easier not to get worked up after you take a break for a while. Baker was right. 823. Schroeder51 posted: 10.26.2015 - 2:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) As I said before, it was 100% classless of the fans to beer bomb Logano after the race. Like I said, I fully understand their frustrations. But there's a right way to handle frustration and disappointment, and there's a WRONG way to handle it. I don't need to say that throwing your garbage on the track is the WRONG way to handle it, do I? All that does is make you look extremely childish. It's just about the same as the kid who throws a temper tantrum when his mother doesn't get him what he wants. Besides, it's all for nothing anyways...throwing your beer cans at Logano is NOT going to make NASCAR change the result to give Junior the win. It really doesn't reflect well on those Junior fans when their driver can accept what happened without getting angry and they cannot... Then again, what do you expect from Talladega? This track always seems to be filled to the brim with the most immature, fanboyish members of Junior Nation. If I were a more sensible Junior fan (like 88&4Fan), I would be INCREDIBLY embarrassed to be a part of the same fanbase as those people... 824. BluesTravelerFan posted: 10.26.2015 - 2:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) I've had time to cool down mostly from yesterday, and unfortunately I don't think NASCAR can do anything about Kevin Harvick with only circumstantial evidence(albeit some strong evidence) and no clear cut proof as there was with spingate. Of course, I wish it was a different case, but I don't think anything can be done about it. But needless to say, what little respect I had for Kevin was lost yesterday, and I hope both him and Logano don't do well in these last four races. On another note, I know most of them don't care, but I have something I want to say to a significant portion of the 88 car's( as a fan of Dale Jr. myself, albeit not an obsessive one) fan base: GROW UP. Look, I hated to see Joey go to victory lane too, but throwing beer cans and bringing danger upon people accomplishes ZERO. The man himself didn't have any problem handling himself with class, so being that you love him so much, you should at least try to do the same thing yourself. I'm a Jr. guy, and I was angrier than a righteous Stepford wife yesterday, but at least I'm honest about it. Yes, I was butthurt, I wanted badly to see Jr. school Joey and advance in the chase, and it sucked he didn't even get a chance to do so, but that's life. I hate the whole situation, but you've got to keep it in check. It's such a shame that there are so many good honest Jr. fans that are some of the best people you will ever meet, but you will never hear about that because of the ridiculous and idiotic actions of these SO-called Junior Nation members. As for the whole debacle of the finish, I agree NASCAR just shouldn't have thrown the yellow on the first incident, but on everything thing else, I think they did what they had to, and they couldn't really change what happened. But they put their selves in this box by being so inconsistent with their rulings. It's a shame that otherwise good races have to be tarnished by these circus endings(Fontana and this race), and along with this utterly asinine points system are the top reasons I don't follow this sport on much more than a casual basis anymore. It was a gut wrenching weekend, but I'll still watch this next week at Martinsville and after that, but it really hurts to see this sport I once loved so much fall to where it is now. 825. BluesTravelerFan posted: 10.26.2015 - 2:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Schroeder51 Do you agree with post, and did you think my Stepford wife joke was funny? 826. The Long Shot posted: 10.26.2015 - 3:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ""lol, Everybody has. I'm just saying that once you stop posting so much (like I have this year), when you do come back to a controversial race like this, the negativity is f**king glaring." ^This. It's a lot easier not to get worked up after you take a break for a while. Baker was right." Who ever knew the same guy that wished serious injury upon Jimmie Johnson *multiple times* was maybe the wisest of us all? All kidding aside, I'm with you both. A good long break from this board (and from racing in general, at least in my case) is a great stress reducer. At this point I'm just going to take auto racing for what it is: entertainment. Legitimacy doesn't mean that much to me anymore because it's just not worth my time to get upset about it. 827. The Long Shot posted: 10.26.2015 - 3:10 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Long Shot, I know you're a Logano fan so its understandable that you would have some bias towards him. However, Kenseth was blocking him because he NEEDED to win to advance, and Joey essentially dumped him in the next turn. That was my perspective." I'm not questioning why Kenseth was blocking that much; his championship was essentially on the line. But Logano didn't dump him; he was trying to either follow Kenseth's line or pull alongside him and Kenseth moved down to block him. Nobody was at fault, it was just a racing deal. 828. Anonymous posted: 10.26.2015 - 3:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I thought the whole reason for limiting the green white checker attempts was for the safety of the the drivers/fans. So I guess Harvick is allowed to restart with a broke Car.and wreck people on purpose" Your username should be "green white wrecker". 829. Cornys posted: 10.26.2015 - 3:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 2016 Sprint Cup Schedule looks exactly like the 2015 schedule with the dates changed accordingly. I see no changes other than the Daytona 400 being moved back to Saturday night. I was hoping to see Road America or some small, but significant change, but it's not there. They did sign a 5 year agreement with the tracks (23 of them, so I assume that's all of them), so for five more years the schedule will look basically the same. (Unless the schedule is lengthened or dates are moved around.) Accordingly, IndyCar's schedule comes out tomorrow. I think IndyCar is actively attempting to avoid NASCAR conflicts. Expect Pocono to be back, but Fontana to be gone. Maybe Gateway will make an appearance, but maybe it won't. Milwaukie Mile won't be back on the schedule for 2016. New this year will be Phoenix, Boston (street race that is supposed to happen on Labor day 2016) and as I said, maybe Gateway. 830. murb posted: 10.26.2015 - 3:43 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) "I see no changes other than the Daytona 400 being moved back to Saturday night." Also, Spring Richmond is a Sunday afternoon race, which I really like. Kudos to them on that. IndyCar's FINALLY going back to Phoenix? It's about time. And that would be cool if Gateway comes back too. Milwaukee being gone is a bummer, but Phoenix and Gateway both returning certainly wouldn't be a bad alternative. 831. David posted: 10.26.2015 - 3:44 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Michigan and Bristol swapped dates. It's because of the college football game, but still interesting. "Legitimacy doesn't mean that much to me anymore because it's just not worth my time to get upset about it." Exactly. NASCAR has made questionable calls for their entire existence, and to think otherwise is delusional. 832. Cornys posted: 10.26.2015 - 3:58 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) @ Long Shot post # 817 "Barnhardt? Ecclestone? Lol. Let's just face it: auto racing as a whole is run by a bunch of dipshits." Well, basically, but IndyCar is seriously struggling everywhere. It's basically due to very poor finances for the entire operation. Not enough race staff. No money in holding events for tracks. It's amazing how competitive the racing is when everything around it is basically crumbling. IndyCar management has been taking on water since it was formed as a competitor to CART, and once they merged back together it hasn't stopped. The series, unlike NASCAR and F1 is operating with a loss when it's biggest event is excluded. This year was the first sign of recovery, but a lot of the TV ratings increase was due to NASCAR's misfortune of being placed on NBCSN coinciding with Rahal's exciting effort. To go along with it, however, there is the loss of Justin Wilson, the poor attendance at Fontana (and loss of the race for the following season), the loss of Milwaukie in 2016, and the relative uncompetitive nature of Honda with the new (expensive) aero kits. Ecclestone needs replaced by somebody younger and more sane, but F1's organization is fairly strong. The competition is lacking at the front, but pretty strong in the middle of the pack, but nobody pays it much attention because the front is so rank and file most of the time and little points are paid for lower finishing positions. The economics are eroding, but not quickly. F1's in a good place, but they are also working against their base in Europe and they are paying for it there. NASCAR's organization is inconsistent, but improving (especially with penalties). It's the actual product that is lacking, and it's in race manipulation and constant rules changes in the season are really damaging. They are also working against their demographic base, which is worse. 833. Cornys posted: 10.26.2015 - 4:03 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Phoenix is likely to be the first Sunday in April (April 3rd). Gateway is a big question mark, don't count on it. I forgot to mention Road America is back in 2016 for IndyCars (June 26th). Milwaukie Mile out and Road America in? Good. Fontana out and Phoenix in? Slight negative. NOLA out and Boston street event in? That's great so long as Boston actually goes green. 834. Cornys posted: 10.26.2015 - 4:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) A Richmond day race will be fun :) I might make a point to watch that one next year. I missed that, but I glanced quickly. Nice catch :) 835. Benjamin LordLowe posted: 10.26.2015 - 4:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hey Murb did you close your Youtube channel 836. Cynical Guy posted: 10.26.2015 - 5:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm genuinely amazed that the few members on this website who have retained their sanity over the last year and a half haven't given up and left the website altogether. Even the people who used to be able to argue very well and coherently now just spew bullshit. Schroeder51, Cornys, leave here before your sanity leaves you. At least avoid NASCAR pages unless you have an urge to comment. As I do here, to save you. It's quite sad really. This website is fantastic. 837. DB1995 posted: 10.26.2015 - 5:08 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) My take on the ramaining Championship contenders. Joey Logano- I think it is obvious Joey is absolutely on fire right now and i think he deserves the championship the most, as he has been consistent and has consistently won races. Kevin Harvick- after his chicken shit move here his championship would be tainted although he has put together an incredible season. Carl Edwards_ i really wouldn't have a problem with him winning if he hadn't been invisible a lot of the year. Kyle Busch- just please no for God's sake Kurt Busch- see Busch,Kyle Jeff Gordon- I just don't want to have to hear for the rest of my life how Jeff went out with a championship, which people would mark up as the single most incredible thing to ever happen Martin Truex- Go Martin, no problems with him winning at all Brad Keselowski- Brad has just had a very consistent season but with half the speed of the 22 in most races, I would like to see him win it but it would be a weak championship in my opinion. 838. Cornys posted: 10.26.2015 - 5:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @836 Cynical Guy haha, I did leave her for a while, but I come back when I feel the urge to. I love commenting on the IndyCar pages, and I like talking racing business from time to time and giving you guys news when nobody else here has posted it. With regard to NASCAR, I can't contain myself from angry posts, and that gets the best of me an helps ruin this site further I'm afraid. I comment more through the week than on race day, because I enjoy the race (IndyCar) or I don't watch it (NASCAR). When I do watch NASCAR I only post angrily (sorry guys). I'd post on F1, but I don't know it well enough to post without research, so I don't. I love this site, truly. :) I enjoy reading everybody's comments and opinions :) 839. murb posted: 10.26.2015 - 5:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Hey Murb did you close your Youtube channel" Yeah. Once Google took everything over and added in all their Google Plus garbage, I decided that it wasn't even worth bothering with anymore. 840. The Long Shot posted: 10.26.2015 - 5:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I'm genuinely amazed that the few members on this website who have retained their sanity over the last year and a half haven't given up and left the website altogether. Even the people who used to be able to argue very well and coherently now just spew bullshit. Schroeder51, Cornys, leave here before your sanity leaves you. At least avoid NASCAR pages unless you have an urge to comment. As I do here, to save you. It's quite sad really. This website is fantastic." What's interesting is that I actually do think the posting quality has improved over the past month or two. Feels like more of the "old crowd" has come back, so to speak, and the amount of troll posts/needless posts has lowered as well. Other than the complaining which seems to become more frequent with every race, I think this board has regained some of the charm that caused it to be such a haven for great discussion back in the day (which is why I joined in the first place). 841. Nathan8848 posted: 10.26.2015 - 5:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) At first I didn't like the track's 5 year agreement, but now it's like the schedule hardly ever changed year-to-year anyway. The only downside is that a new road course won't being coming anytime soon. 842. Eric posted: 10.26.2015 - 6:00 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) My take on on the remaining Championship contenders. Joey Logano - hottest driver in the cup series and wouldn't be shocked if he wins it all. Kevin Harvick - It would cause controversy if he win the championship. The team and the driver are strong enough to win it, but bad pr this year after Talladega. I think him and Joe are the top 2 for the Championship. Carl Edwards - I don't see him being the champion at at all. The team isn't strongest enough. Kyle Busch - I don't see him winning the chase. Kyle still the reputation of doing better in the first 26 races than the final 10. If he also wins it, it would be controversy due to the amount time he missed. Kurt Busch - Very good team, but not as good as Kevin Harvick's team is. I think there isn't as much as pr problem with Kurt if he becomes champion due to what came out about his ex-girlfriend. Jeff Gordon - Not a favorite for the championship. If he wins it, it would be an upset due to how his final season has been. I think NASCAR would consider changing the chase if Jeff wins it without a win. Martin Truex - He's not a favorite for the Championship. I do think if he wins it, it would be the biggest upset for a driver to win a championship since Alan Kulwicki in 1992 since you are dealing with a single car team. I honestly think would be more of an upset than Tony Stewart being cup champion in 2011. Brad Keselowski- What I said about Kurt Busch's team can be said about Brad's team. They are not the best team in their organization. It would be an upset if he wins the championship, but there would be no pr problem. 843. Eric posted: 10.26.2015 - 6:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I am going to be very interested in what will happen at the 5 year contracts are over. My reasoning is I don't think all the tracks will have booth dates or be gone. New Hampshire attendance is better in the chance than its first date. There also is the amount of times Michigan and Dover lower capacity. If Michigan and Dover lowers capacity anymore, there needs to be some thinking once the 5 years are up in terms of replacing at least one track date. Atlanta Motor speedway has bad attendance for years and is going to curious what will happen to the track after 5 years. There is a market problem there. Atlanta has a bad history in sports in terms of selling out seat outside of NASCAR. The Atlanta Falcons had problems sells seats before Michael Vick and Matt Ryan. The Atlanta Braves don't have a great reputation for selling out even during their long string of going to the playoffs. IMS after 5 years is questionable to me without using the road course. The attendance hasn't been the same since the 2008 tire fiasco over there. 844. BMan0213 posted: 10.26.2015 - 6:20 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I highly doubt Michigan will loose a date. Attendance there doesn't mean much with it being so close to Ford and GM headquarters. No way NASCAR would risk pissing them off by taking away a date from that track 845. Eric posted: 10.26.2015 - 6:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) What I meant by "there isn't as much as pr problem with Kurt if he becomes champion due to what came out about his ex-girlfriend" is the fact a lot of the comments I seen actually think Kurt didn't do the crime he was accused of due to the behavior of his ex-girlfriend. 846. We need more Onion posted: 10.26.2015 - 7:59 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) So... at the moment, the ROTY points look like this: Brett Moffitt - 192 Matt DiBenedetto - 188 Jeb Burton - 182 Alex Kennedy - 115 DiBenedetto has a totally legit chance winning it! GO MATT! 847. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.26.2015 - 8:17 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) I'm not going to talk about the race anymore, as it's history and we can't change (or know) what happened. I'm just going to enjoy the rest of the season. Here's my take on the 8 drivers left: Logano- Not a huge fan, but he deserves it. He's been phenomenal this season. Harvick- Equally deserving as Logano, but it would have a huge asterisk because of this race. Ku. Busch- Guy I want to win it the most now that he's matured and rejuvenated his career. Especially after he was wrongfully suspended this year. Ky. Busch- Wouldn't normally mind it, but after missing 12 races? Yeah no. It can hopefully wait until next year. Truex, Jr.- I'll also be pulling for him. A likeable guy who's had a great season and winning a title with a single car team would be legendary. Edwards- Would like for him to win, but he's usually the slowest JGR car this year. Hope he can win a title but it can wait. Keselowski- No. He's been outperformed by Logano and has had a weak year, having less than half the top 5's he had last year. Gordon- Torn. Would love to see him win it in his final year and make the chase look silly, but he's ran like garbage and it would be the weakest modern era title ever. "It's sad really. This website is fantastic." I will come out and say that I found this site in late 2014 and started reading everything on it, but when I saw the 2nd Pocono race comments where people were beginning to leave and how the board wasn't the same I decided to start posting because I wanted to help bring the site back to what it once was (am I doing okay?) I love racing and stats which is another reason I joined. The only thing I've noticed is that whenever the majority feels negative about the outcome, I begin to feel negative too even though I normally wouldn't. But I've had a blast on here and thanks everyone for posting here and making this site what it is today. 848. 88&4Fan posted: 10.26.2015 - 9:16 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) "I will come out and say that I found this site in late 2014 and started reading everything on it, but when I saw the 2nd Pocono race comments where people were beginning to leave and how the board wasn't the same I decided to start posting because I wanted to help bring the site back to what it once was (am I doing okay?) I love racing and stats which is another reason I joined. The only thing I've noticed is that whenever the majority feels negative about the outcome, I begin to feel negative too even though I normally wouldn't. But I've had a blast on here and thanks everyone for posting here and making this site what it is today." I actually have a very similar backstory to that. I knew about this website well before I became a regular poster here, and I was a visitor to the site fairly infrequently throughout the "glory years" of the comments if you will (2012-early 2013 judging by the comments I've read). I used this site a lot for statistics projects but hardly ever commented and when I did it was usually anonymously. You could probably find some old comments of mine from probably even as far back as 2011 on some old races. The first time I ever used the name "88&4Fan" on this site was this year's Daytona 4th of July race because that night was one of NASCAR's 5-hour long "will we start the race or will we postpone it" affairs and I was looking at every racing related website on info for when or if the race would start. So I just decided to be a part of the live chat that night, and what would you know Junior won that race and I've been here ever since. And let me just say that the RacingReference community is by far the best online chat group that I've ever been a part of and I am so glad that I found this site. 849. Ryan W posted: 10.26.2015 - 9:32 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) I could see Gordon winning Martinsville and then winning the title at Homestead. That's definitely not a reach. 850. 88&4Fan posted: 10.26.2015 - 9:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) And yes Big Mc, your input is appreciated here. 851. cjs3872 posted: 10.26.2015 - 10:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) One of the interesting things to note about the schedule is the fact that, for the very first time in it's 58-year history, the Daytona 500 will be run on February 21. Back in it's first 14 years of existence, when it was held on the same weekend it is now, whenever the Daytona 500 would have fallen on the 21st (1960, 1965, and 1971), it was run on the Sunday before (Feb. 14) to avoid conflicting with President's Day. So the 2016 Daytona 500 will mark the first time in the history of the event that the race will have run on February 21. It has been run on every other February day between the 14th and the 27th more than once. And Eric (#843), Atlanta has always been one of the absolute WORST sports cities when it comes to fan loyalty, and this comes from someone who spent 30 years in San Diego and is appalled at how the fans there are treating the Chargers, making Chargers home games seem like road games (they've always been like neutral site games, but never like road games). But Atlanta has historically been even worse than that. It was that way with the Falcons from 1981-'97 (between the devastating loss to the Cowboys and their 1998 Super Bowl run), and between 2004-'08. And as bad as that was, it's been even worse over the years with the Braves. Fulton County Stadium was half-empty, even when the Braves started the most consistent period of excellence ever seen in the National League, and during the last 5-7 years of that 15-year period from 1991-2005, attendance dropped off noticeably. And the Hawks have never really drawn that well, except for the Dominique-era teams of the 1980s. So fan loyalty has been a major problem across the board in Atlanta sports over the years, so it's no surprise that they have trouble drawing at the Atlanta Motor Speedway, though getting pushed back to the worst possible date on the schedule can't help very much. 852. racefangurl posted: 10.26.2015 - 10:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The Long Shot, DB, Eric and Big Mac Fan, I'd be happiest if Logano or Truex was champion. They're my favorite Chasers. This next part is for all. My story is I found this site through a link on jayski.com or a NASCAR-related web search within the past few years. Until Trevor Bayne's MS was revealed, I didn't comment at all. I moved up to driver page comments then. In 2014, I came to the race discussion boards. 853. 18fan posted: 10.26.2015 - 10:40 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) The Michigan and Bristol August date swap is because of the Rio Olympics. They moved the off week that was between Bristol and Darlington up a couple weeks so there is no race during the Olympics, which are shown on NBC. 854. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.26.2015 - 11:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I could see Gordon winning Martinsville and then winning Homestead." Even if he doesn't make the finals, I could see him making the finals on consistency. In the spring races he finished 9th, 7th, and 9th. Assuming nothing goes wrong I think he has a shot." "The Daytona 500 will be run on February 21." Not only that, but the Atlanta race came so close to being on February 29, the second time ever (first was 1976), but it's instead on the 28th. I hope it gets rained out though, because that would be interesting to see. 855. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.26.2015 - 11:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That meant to say even if he doesn't win. 856. murb posted: 10.26.2015 - 11:23 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Since everyone else is doing it... Logano: If he doesn't have any problems during the next three, I don't see how he doesn't go to Homestead and win the race and championship. He's become the best driver in Nascar, and his team and crew chief seem to have gotten all of the bugs worked out. They are on the fast track. Kyle Busch: As long as he doesn't go throwback and implode during one of the next three, he's in the best position he's ever been in to win a Cup title. Harvick: After Talladega, I just think he's got a massive target on his back. Kenseth is gonna race the hell out of him, Hamlin is gonna race the hell out of him, and clearly guys like Gilliland, Bayne, and all the others that were caught up in that wreck (AKA, a bunch of guys who will be lapped cars that he will have to probably deal with) aren't too happy with him either. So when I combine that with Rodney Childers' ability to take his head off of his shoulders quite frequently, I don't think his chances to make it through are all that great. I hope I'm not just wishfully thinking. Edwards: Winning Phoenix is probably his best shot (I think he's probably a lot better at Martinsville now that he's with JGR, but I still don't really see him winning there - Texas is a toss-up). If others have problems, he COULD point his way in, but overall, I don't see him making the cut. Kurt Busch: He's probably the most underrated threat to Logano that's left. He could win any of the next three, or he could very well point his way in. Keselowski: He ran really good at all three of Martinsville, Texas, and Phoenix this year (including battling with Hamlin for the win at Martinsville), and seems to have a little momentum on his side finally. I think he has a better shot of making the Final Four than most people realize. Truex: The sentimental favorite, and I think he really does have a good shot at it. Texas and I think especially Phoenix should both be good opportunities to win (hell, maybe even Martinsville too), and even if he doesn't, I have to believe that he's gotta be one of the two or three favorites to point his way in. Gordon: If he doesn't win at Martinsville, I don't see him making it. I just don't see them running well enough at Texas and Phoenix. Final Four Predictions: Keselowski (wins Martinsville), Logano (wins Texas), Truex (wins Phoenix), Kurt Busch (points) Champion: Logano 857. The Long Shot posted: 10.26.2015 - 11:44 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Allow me to toss my hat in the ring: Logano: The easy favorite at this point, and my pick for the title when all's said and done. Not that he's had it tough or anything, but having been on the Logano bandwagon since Day 1, it feels awesome to see him succeed like he has been. Harvick: I think he wins one of these next three races to advance (probably Phoenix), regardless of how other drivers may race him or target him. Think he'll get taken out early at Homestead, though. Ky. Busch: I don't think he'll "choke" per se, but I don't expect him to win any of the three races and I don't think he'll be high enough in points to advance. Ku. Busch: Slightly better chance of making it than Kyle, but I don't anticipate him making it either. Edwards: I don't know what to expect from him. He could tear these next races up and maybe even win one, or he could completely disappear and be a nonfactor. Truex: As cool as it would be for him to make it, I just don't think he will. Just my gut feeling on it. Definitely has a shot to win at Phoenix, though. Keselowski: Think he comes out of nowhere to either win one of these races or at the very least run strongly enough to get into the top 4 in points. Gordon: Another gut feeling of mine: I think somehow, some way, Gordon gets into the final round. Don't know why, I just feel like he will. Final 4: Keselowski (Martinsville), Logano (Texas), Harvick (Phoenix), Gordon (points) Champion: Logano (Keselowski, Gordon, Harvick) 858. PenskeGuy posted: 10.27.2015 - 12:16 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well, the sad thing about what happened on the last restart with Harvick is that it wouldn't surprise me if he did do it on purpose. In the last four years alone, we had both RCR SpinGate at the 2011 Fall Richmond race and MWR SpinGate at that same race in 2013. In both instances, the teams were pulling desperate tactics to benefit teammates. So with the way the Gimmicky New Chase (which has caused me to take the championship a lot less seriously) is set up, that makes more desperate situations possible. 859. someone posted: 10.27.2015 - 12:41 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) 856: I think you are being guilty of "wishful thinking" on Harvick. I mean it just doesn't seem like drivers carry feuds from one week to another, they just seem to fizzle out during the week. Then again the drivers you mentioned have nothing to lose... so maybe. As far as predictions are concerned, any of these drivers could realistically end up in the final four. Anyways my predictions: Logano: Obvious favorite for the championship, could easily win any of these last four races, and also under the old chase (as in the chase with no resets) he'd currently hold a whopping 33 point lead over second place Edwards. The only problems Logano may have to face is Kenseth getting revenge, or maybe because he'll finally encounter bad luck, since he's the only chaser who hasn't experienced any yet. But otherwise the championship is his to lose. Edwards: I'm biased, but I think you guys are underrating his consistency (has a worst finish of FIFTEENTH since Daytona in early July), and how good he is at the next three tracks. He's good enough for a top five at Martinsville now that he's with Gibbs, has the second most wins of all drivers at Texas, and is the only driver not named Kevin Harvick to win at Phoenix since the second Phoenix race in 2012. With that said, he will probably have to point his way through the round, and any finish worse than 15th will probably eliminate him. Gordon: I don't feel good about his chances. He only has four top fives this season, and of the eight drivers remaining, he is easily the slowest of them. His only chance is a Martinsville win, although he has been fairly good at squeaking out top 10s, so it's possible for him to point his way through. Ku. Busch: Definitely having imo the most under rated season of all the chasers. I believe he ranks 2nd (behind Harvick) in driver rating this season; he also doesn't seem to have much of a problem with consistency and bringing home strong top five runs. With that said, apart from his recent win at Martinsville, Kurt Busch is REALLY bad/unlucky at Martinsville, which could work against him. Keselowski: He really hasn't been strong so far in the chase. He usually doesn't seem to run too much better than Gordon, and has been outclassed by Logano all season. With that said, he battled for the win at Martinsville in the spring, and usually runs well at Phoenix, so I think this set of tracks really favor Keselowski. Truex Jr: After cooling down in the months leading up to the chase, it seems as though Truex has found a little consistency in the chase. He also finished top ten at all these tracks in the spring. However, he still isn't as fast now as he was in the chase, and I don't see him winning any of these races, except maybe Texas. Harvick: Obviously a lot of drivers are mad at him, but like I said earlier, when was the last time a driver actually got payback on a driver for an incident in a prior race? It doesn't seem to happen much from what I've seen, and as a result I think he'll cruise into the championship round, possibly getting wins at Texas and Phoenix (though I really hope this isn't the case). Ky. Busch: Although he's the faster of the two remaining Gibbs drivers, and speedwise, he has shown to be one of the fastest remaining drivers overall; Kyle Busch bumbled through the prior two rounds, being one of the last drivers to advance each time. Also it is chase time, and only has two combined wins at these next four tracks, I think he'll need consistency to advance, and we all know consistency isn't Kyle Busch's strong suit, especially in the chase. Anyways, the likelihood to advance in my opinion are: 8th: Jeff Gordon 7th: Kyle Busch 6th: Brad Keselowski 5th: Carl Edwards 4th: Martin Truex Jr. 3rd: Kurt Busch 2nd: Kevin Harvick 1st: Joey Logano I think that fourth through seventh are highly variable, and they can pretty much end up anywhere between fourth and seventh. 860. JHN#8 posted: 10.27.2015 - 12:47 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) The 4 i'd prefer to advance (not really a fan of most of them) Truex, Logano, Keslowski (what is wrong with me lol), Kurt Busch (I've became a nice person) Who I think will make it Logano, Gordon, Edwards, Kurt Busch And with Logano winning it all 861. David posted: 10.27.2015 - 1:08 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) Why not? Joey Logano: It's been well-documented that Logano is flat flying at this point, and I certainly don't think he "peaked too early". All it takes is one win over these next three races and beating the other three at Homestead. I agree with murb, he's the best driver in NASCAR, bar none... Kevin Harvick: ...followed closely by this driver. Look, I don't know whether he wrecked the field on purpose Sunday (the video would certainly suggest as such), but clean or not, he has been a force to be reckoned with this season. I predicted on the Las Vegas comment board (seems like years ago, but I digress) that he would pull off back-to-back titles. It's still plausible. I think he'll find his way into the final four somehow. Kyle Busch: Whether you think he deserved the waiver or not, he's here now. I have to give him credit for his driving since his injury--winning four out of five races is no small feat. He could easily advance, in spite of the fact that the next three tracks are not among his best. That being said, he could just as easily choke or have bad luck befall his car. I'd say he has at least a 50% chance at making it to Homestead. Kurt Busch: He definitely hasn't been making as much noise recently, on the track or on the radio. Of the two Busch brothers, I think Kyle has a much better chance. Although he did make it this far, so... Carl Edwards: I'm not sure what to make of him. He's easily been the weakest all season of the Chase drivers still remaining (okay, Jeff Gordon's been worse...), Yet he sometimes shows up out of nowhere and dominates the race. And he scored more points than anyone not named Joey Logano this past round. Despite that, I only think he'll make the final four if he wins. Martin Truex, Jr: He'll sneak in. He's been quietly consistent all season, and a semi-regular contender for the win. If I'm wrong, screw it. Brad Keselowski: I don't know why, but I don't see him doing anything these last few races. He's been all but invisible to me recently. I think he'll be the one who surprises most people by missing the final four, and it won't be close. Jeff Gordon: Tough call. It's hard--believe me, it is--to separate all my feelings about my favorite driver from my analysis to make a fair prediction. He's had a pretty mediocre season by all standards, but he's also been quietly making waves in the Chase, as evidenced by his third-place finish on Sunday. He could make it. Let me put it this way: I think Truex has a better chance than Gordon does. Current prediction for final four: Logano, Harvick, Truex, and either Kyle Busch or Jeff Gordon (toss-up, with an edge to Busch). 862. murb posted: 10.27.2015 - 2:18 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I think you are being guilty of "wishful thinking" on Harvick. I mean it just doesn't seem like drivers carry feuds from one week to another, they just seem to fizzle out during the week." I probably am, but on the other hand, think about it like this: If he's leading late at one of these races (very possible, especially at Phoenix), how can the 2nd place driver NOT just totally use him up? Think about how many reasons people would have to use the bumper or whatever against him in that situation. It could be Kenseth or Hamlin with a revenge bump for Talladega, it could be Logano poetically knocking Harvick's championship chances out after all the crap Harvick has put Joey through over the years (and even this year at The Shootout and Spring Texas), or it could be some other Chaser trying to Newman banzai their way into the Final Four. I don't know, call me crazy, but I just think he's gonna have a real hard time making it through. And also, like I pointed out earlier, I think Rodney Childers' recent strategy blunders might be another major area of concern. Who says Texas and/or Phoenix won't turn into fuel mileage races where he'll run them out of gas again like he did at Watkins Glen and New Hampshire? 863. BMan0213 posted: 10.27.2015 - 3:17 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "And also, like I pointed out earlier, I think Rodney Childers' recent strategy blunders might be another major area of concern. Who says Texas and/or Phoenix won't turn into fuel mileage races where he'll run them out of gas again like he did at Watkins Glen and New Hampshire?" I don't know if either one of those were really blunders on Rodney's part. At the Glen the thought they need a yellow to make it to the end and it never came and at New Hampshire they didn't get the car full of gas. All they do after the pit stops is weigh the cans to see how much fuel came out. If it's empty they (being all teams) assume they got the car full. no one ever seems to account for fuel that splashes around and doesn't get in, probably because there's no way to tell how much splashed out. Still based on the numbers they had he should have been able to make it. 864. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 10.27.2015 - 7:44 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) @843, 851 I've had family in Atlanta for 25 years. Atlanta is an overgrown college town. They'll fill any facility up for an ACC/SEC football or basketball game or tournament. There's so many transplants from around the South that they don't have an allegiance for any pro teams yet they keep their ties to their respective alma maters or the college nearest where they grew up. The Braves are now trying to build a new stadium in the suburbs in an attempt to get fans who they feel may be afraid to go downtown at night to see a game. 865. cjs3872 posted: 10.27.2015 - 7:52 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) Actually murb and BMan0213, the calculations the #4 team made at Watkins Glen said they weren't that close on fuel (2-3 laps is a LONG way on a road course), and in fact, they were shocked that they made it as far as they did, though being able to back off with a sizable lead for a good portion of that race-ending green flag stretch didn't hurt, either. And actually, it's not as much a bad call as it could be either them not getting all the fuel in the tank, because of splashing or the car not taking on all the fuel (which has become a bigger issue in the last year or two), or the car not being able to pick up all the fuel in the tank, which would result in it having the appearance of running out, but actually having a gallon or slightly more than that in the tank. Making strategy blunders is one thing (as all fans of the #24 team would know), but it's something else to make the right call based on calculations and have something out of your control make that decision look like a bad one, when in fact, it wasn't. And a lot of that sometimes has to do with how a team's running during the race. How many times have we seen the #2 team use strategy to find their way up front over the last three years when it appeared that they had no business being up there because of how they were running, and then be able to stay up there because of how important clean air is, with last year's fall race at Texas being a textbook case. And by the way, my picks to be the four who advance to the final race with a shot at the title are Carl Edwards, Joey Logano, Kevin Harvick, and one of the Busch brothers, though I'm not sure which one. However, winning during this round is paramount. Remember that Jeff Gordon finished second twice in this round last year, and failed to advance due to a bad finish at Texas, and there's a distinct possibility that only ONE position will be available through points, and I see Logano, Edwards, and/or one of the Busch brothers getting in that way. But what a story it would be if Gordon went into the final race of his career with a shot at the championship and the ultimate send-off into retirement. I don't think NASCAR would be too happy with that potential development because of the possibility of not having a defending champion in it's highest series in 2016. 866. Ryan W posted: 10.27.2015 - 11:35 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm betting on all 3 car makes to somehow get in. Logano, Gordon, Harvick, and Ky. Busch. Gordon winning the title at Homestead. Although I don't like Gordon, never have and never will, I believe he will complete the drive for 5. Finally. 867. Ryan W posted: 10.27.2015 - 11:46 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @851 It's really sad too because Atlanta has been such a great track historcally over the years before and after reconfiguration. I love how you can run the bottom, top, and even the middle. It's a racer's track where you can run the line that suits your style and it eats tires like Darlington. The track is the home of the best and great points championship finale (non-fabricated) of all time and that was in 1992. 868. JP88 posted: 10.27.2015 - 11:55 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) Logano: Don't like him that much but he's the favorite to win. I think though something fluky could happen in the next 3 races since he won 3 in a row, so who knows? Edwards: Ghost. Wouldn't mind him winning. Not really a huge fan of him either but he's been alright to me this year. Also he should have won in 08!!! Gordon: Probably doesn't deserve it but it would be cool to see him get a shot. I would like him to win a race though to get in. Ku. Busch: Rooting for him because of all the stuff he had to go through earlier this year, and he's a hell of a driver. I think he quietly makes it. Keselowski: He's meh to me. Both in likeness and his chances to win. He really just has the fluke win at Fontana and really only showed up in a couple races. Nowhere near as close as Joey. Truex Jr: Would be amazing if he won it all. Kinda like Brad in the 2nd half after a hot start. Hopefully the 78 team gets the early-season momentum back. Harvick: Will be a favorite to win but man if he does it won't be that popular of a championship. I feel someone will make sure it personally doesn't happen. Ky. Busch: He's cooled off a bit and obviously it's going to be a weird feeling if he were to win. I don't think he gets in anyway. I think the final 4 will be Logano (Texas), Ku. Busch (Martinsville), Edwards (Phoenix) and Truex (points) Logano wins the title. 869. Anonymous posted: 10.27.2015 - 12:12 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) "If I were a more sensible Junior fan (like 88&4Fan)," That's a joke right? Schroeder51? 870. Scott B posted: 10.27.2015 - 1:06 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) All the late-race chaos at 'Dega made this a hypothetical, but let me ask opinions. If Biffle's fuel strategy had played out in his favor, would NASCAR had let the race unfold naturally? I'm pretty sure there would have been a caution for debris even if it was just a hot dog wrapper. Kudos to the team for daring to be different with a strategy call, though, they had little to lose and a lot to gain if it worked. 871. Cornys posted: 10.27.2015 - 1:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ISC and SMI will have the same number of races they presently do. So will Dover Motorsports (They only own Dover now anyways) and Pocono Raceway's ownership. Races can be sold or moved to different venues at their leisure. 872. Chives5150 posted: 10.27.2015 - 1:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It doesn't really mean anything, but it's going to be weird to me to go to Dover before the All Star Race and Coca-Cola 600. If I lived anywhere near the Atlanta area, I would get tickets in a heartbeat to go to a race there. It's very frustrating to see such a great track being forgotten by the locals and the fans. Although I will always unconditionally love the old Atlanta configuration because it was so unique and treacherous, the recent configuration has produced some phenomenal racing. It's just a shame that Atlanta has always gotten the short end of the stick in terms of either scheduling or weather. Once the track lost its first date, the Labor Day event never seemed to pack the same punch. I do sort of enjoy Atlanta being the second race of the season because it reminds me of back in the day, though. I just hope that Mother Nature can spare Atlanta for a few years so we don't have to contend with snow, tornadoes, or hurricanes whenever NASCAR comes to town. 873. John posted: 10.27.2015 - 2:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) http://nascar.nbcsports.com/2015/10/27/brad-keselowski-says-austin-theriaults-hans-device-broke-in-las-vegas-crash/ First time ever Keselowski saw a HANS device break. We are so lucky we didn't lose 3 drivers this year. This could of been such a horrible year. 874. Canadianfan posted: 10.27.2015 - 3:00 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I don't think they would have made it to the finish Dale Jr and Joey were blocking and driving like crazy they would have wrecked or someone else behind them Would have wrecked It was getting out of control I'm amazed they made it as far as they did after pit stops. The best case scenario for Greg would have been that the wreck happened after he took the white flag. 875. 1995 Subaru WRX STi posted: 10.27.2015 - 3:30 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Out of the remaining 8 guys only Joey, Harvick, both Busch brothers, Brad and Carl have a shot too win future championships. No disrespect too Truex but i do not see him as a championship driver YET. "The best case scenario for Greg would have been that the wreck happened after he took the white flag." If the #1 didn't blow up, i honestly think Biffle would have made it. 876. 88&4Fan posted: 10.27.2015 - 3:57 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) 869- That was a joke right? "Anonymous"? 877. BMan0213 posted: 10.27.2015 - 4:11 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) "If Biffle's fuel strategy had played out in his favor, would NASCAR had let the race unfold naturally?" I think they would have and I think it wouldn't have mattered because he would have ran out. Someone said it before with how it takes less fuel to drive under yellow it helped him go longer before pitting. I think with the yellow Biffle only made it to lap 188 (maybe 189) before he had to pit. I honestly don't think he would have made it had the race gone green the whole way. 878. Spen posted: 10.27.2015 - 4:12 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) My predictions: Logano: Obviously wouldn't be shocked if he wins, but given how this year has gone, I also would not be surprised if something silly happened to knock him out. Harvick: He'll get his lumps at Martinsville, which will put him in a must-win situation at Phoenix. Being that it's his personal playground, that works just fine for him. Keselowski: Might sneak his way in, or might miss. I'm leaning hesitantly towards him making it. Truex: I could dream. At least he'll finally get to go the banquet. But barring a win, which I don't see happening (how many races this year have been won by someone who doesn't race for Gibbs, Penske, Hendrick or SHR? One. Not good odds.) I don't think he'll be able to point his way in. Kurt: Slight possibility, but SHR isn't quite as fast as they were in the first half. Don't see it happening. Edwards: A debris caution at Texas will hand him a win. Most likely at Truex's expense. Gordon: I think he just might be able to win Martinsville. I don't see him doing anything remarkable at Homestead, but just managing a top five finish out of this crappy year will be amazing. Kyle: He'll do his usual crash and burn trick. And probably do something really stupid at Texas. For Homestead, if Logano makes it, it's his to lose. If not, Harvick could repeat. I don't see anyone else winning it all (nor should they, seasonally speaking), but with this absurd system, Gordon could theoretically troll his way to a title with an eleventh-place finish. And if none of the chasers wins at Homestead, my money's on Biffle's fuel tank to win. How I first came to this site: After Rockingham '04, I was wondering when the last time Joe Ruttman ran a Cup race was. So I googled him, and his driver page popped up. I don't remember paying attention to the comment pages until sometime in 2005. (When the comments were mostly dalejr14fan, biffle16 and Thomas inventing new ways to call each other "asshole") I think my first post was sometime in '07. Probably responding to some comment from either Myself or Willy on Wheels. 879. Thomas posted: 10.27.2015 - 4:15 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) I wouldn't be surprised if both Logano (Kenseth) and Harvick (take your pick) end up in the garage with torn up cars Sunday. If you reverse the Harvick/Bayne situation from Sunday and it was Bayne that turned Harvick intentionally (as unlikely as that is considering Bayne's personality), I suspect Bayne wouldn't have been in the car this weekend at NASCAR's command. My take on the remaining contenders for the championship: Logano: Peaked too soon. Wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't make it to Homestead despite being the heavy favorite right now. Rowdy: It's a surprise he's made it this far. Unlikely to make it to Homestead. Harvick: Made a lot of driver's mad on Sunday, but Martinsville is the only place they could really collect payback (just ask Rowdy or Gordon about collecting at Texas or Phoenix). NASCAR probably finds a way to get him to Homestead. Edwards: Pretty much been invisible--and that's not a bad thing considering most of the drivers he's up against. I can see him potentially pointing his way to Homestead. Kurt: Again somebody that I could see pointing their way to Homestead. Though I don't think he or his brother should have been given waivers into the Chase. Keselowski: Hasn't been as fast as his teammate, but he's been consistently in the top 10. Another driver who could point their way to Homestead. Truex: Very consistent this season, but I don't know that he's championship ready. Definitely could get to Homestead on points however. Gordon: The story line of winning the title in his final season is compelling, but the only driver left without a win has his work cut out for him just to get to Homestead. My gut says that at least 2 of the next 3 races are won by non-championship contenders (like last season). I suspect Jr., Johnson, or Hamlin wins Sunday. Hence points will become very important this round. Homestead comes down to Truex, Keselowski, Gordon, and Edwards for the title. 880. BMan0213 posted: 10.27.2015 - 4:20 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) "If you reverse the Harvick/Bayne situation from Sunday and it was Bayne that turned Harvick intentionally (as unlikely as that is considering Bayne's personality), I suspect Bayne wouldn't have been in the car this weekend at NASCAR's command." Normally i'd disagree with that, but I think Bayne got put on probation for the rest of the year after he got out of his car to soon during the Spring Dover race. If that's right then yeah 100% he probably would have been parked if he did that to Harvick, even if they couldn't find the evidence to justify it. (Which is the reason I think NASCAR did't punish Harvick. There just wasn't enough there to do it.) 881. MAR posted: 10.27.2015 - 4:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Almost at 900 comments I love the debating guys. 882. racefangurl posted: 10.27.2015 - 5:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) 880, ESPN had article in 2011 about Bayne that said things the reporter couldn't see him doing. Based on that article, I'd agree he's not a deliberate wrecker. I agree, given his probation, if he had wrecked Harvick, he'd be in deep doo-doo. Parked and fined or perhaps if not parked, given a points penalty. 883. Eric posted: 10.27.2015 - 5:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I don't see Dale Jr. winning on Sunday. His problem is the pit crew it like a three ring circus on pit road. Ever since the chase started, that team has mad one mistake over another on pit road. If Dale won on at Talladega, I wouldn't have him get to the final 4 at homestead due to pit crew. That issue needs be fixed during the off season. 884. Nascar Lead Lap Points posted: 10.27.2015 - 5:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Owner of the #98 was Michael Waltrip Mike Curb AKA Jay Robinson team does not field toyota, the car was from the MWR shop, and they used Robinson number. http://www.rubbins-racin.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41448&d=1445630195&thumb=1 885. BMan0213 posted: 10.27.2015 - 5:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "If Dale won on at Talladega, I wouldn't have him get to the final 4 at homestead due to pit crew. That issue needs be fixed during the off season." He said he could have taken Johnson's crew after he got knocked out at Dover. Of course we know Dale is to nice of a guy to do that, that's basically what he said when he was asked about it. The only thing I can take away from Sunday is it wasn't his crew's fault he didn't win. Jr. worked his way back to the lead after his crew had that penalty, only to give those spots back by locking up his tires on his last pit stop. At least they had a good 2 tire stop there that kept him in contention for the win. 886. JHN#8 posted: 10.27.2015 - 5:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) @883 Dale does have a hit or miss crew, but Dale himself has made mistakes on pitroad as well, but some people don't want to blame JR himself and looking to always blame someone else.. @884 The 98 was a MWR at Dega, but they do/can field Toyotas. Daytona 500, the 88 was a Toyota. I'm sure they have one of 2 still floating around somewhere..lol 887. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.27.2015 - 6:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "If you reverse the Bayne/Harvick situation, and it was Bayne that intentionally turned Harvick, I suspect Bayne wouldn't have been in the car." Probation aside, Bayne wouldn't be penalized for the fact that Bayne has a relatively clean driving record in NASCAR. Meanwhile if Kyle Busch, assuming that he's not chase eligible and he intentionally turned Harvick, he would be parked on the spot. 888. BMan0213 posted: 10.27.2015 - 6:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Probation aside, Bayne wouldn't be penalized for the fact that Bayne has a relatively clean driving record in NASCAR. Meanwhile if Kyle Busch, assuming that he's not chase eligible and he intentionally turned Harvick, he would be parked on the spot." IDK man I mean Kyle has been pretty clean since 2011. That year he had 3 or 4 things that happened before what got him parked at Texas. I think if he pulled that move that Harvick did, he probably wouldn't have been parked for it even if he wasn't a Chase driver. 889. Ryan W posted: 10.27.2015 - 6:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) You know it's sad when so many of Nascar's faithful fans have been forced to comment and say that they manipulate cautions, the races are sometimes "played out" instead of raced out. That fans believe Nascar wants to make sure each car make/sponsors are satisfied and happy. This has gone on for a while now and it's so noticeable, but yet people still watch. People are still intrigued. That's why I believe every car make will make it to Homestead. It seems like people are trying to guess who will win the Royal Rumble and how. Like who will be the last 4 and who will be thrown over the top rope last. Sad. Do people really think that Nascar was going to penalize the defending champion and a driver who has a major sponsor in the sport and that has been there historically for a long time? Wasn't going to happen. Nascar has been wanting and needing some major rivals for a while now like they had from the 1960s to the mid 1990's. The new Chase format has caused controversy, rivalries, and put Nascar is the news more bad or good. It keeps people watching regardless. It's what they want. Harvick vs. Logano is what they want and they'll make sure it happens one way or the other. You have Harvick's old sponsor as Logano's sponsor. You have Chevrolet vs. Ford. Two current villians currently battling it out in Homestead. I think Gordon could spoil it for both and have an happy ending to his storied career. 890. Eric posted: 10.27.2015 - 7:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @886, why are trying to indicated that I'm Dale Jr. Fan, when I am more of a Matt Kenseth Fan? I was doing a non bias analysis to post 879. The fact is don't see Dale Jr. being good enough to win at Martinsvile despite his win there last year due to the pit road problems. Dale Jr. fans like to the blame the pit crew, more than the driver, Why did you miss my point about the 88 team isn't good enough to be final 4 team and that the 88 team is good enough to win a race that isn't a restrictor plate? Mistakes on pit road at Talladega can be overcome that was was the cause with Dale's 2nd place finish. This is a team that had 4 mistakes on Pit road on Sunday. 3 were on the driver and one was one going over the pit wall to soon. 891. 88&4Fan posted: 10.27.2015 - 8:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Here is my take on what I think will happen in the final four races: A non-chaser (likely Hamlin, but Junior or Jimmie could do it too, heck maybe even McMurray, he's always good there) wins Martinsville. Either Harvick, Logano, or both run into trouble due to angry drivers looking for payback. Logano dominates and wins Texas and Harvick dominates and wins Phoenix, so anything that happens to either driver at Martinsville becomes irrelevant. The four drivers who advance to Homestead are: Logano (Texas win) Harvick (Phoenix win) Edwards (points) Truex (points) At Homestead, Harvick dominates but runs into shenanigans, Kyle Larson gets his first career win as somewhat of a surprise, and Logano wins the championship finishing second. Here is how I would rank the eight remaining drivers' chances to win the championship (not necessarily how they will finish but the order of how likely I think it is that they will win). 1. Logano 2. Harvick 3. Edwards 4. Truex 5. Kurt Busch 6. Keselowski 7. Kyle Busch 8. Gordon 892. Greg22 posted: 10.28.2015 - 12:02 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Webmaster: The Martinsville Fact Sheet incorrectly states that Jamie McMurray holds the fastest qualifying speed at the track. Joey Logano set the track record in March 2014 in the first round of qualifying, breaking the 100 mph mark at 18.898 seconds (100.201 mph). Here is a link to an article citing it: http://www.martinsvillespeedway.com/Articles/2014/03/nscsqual32814.aspx 893. webmaster posted: 10.28.2015 - 7:56 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) NASCAR only acknowledges records set during the final round of qualifying, so according to them the "qualifying record" for Martinsville belongs to McMurray. 894. BMan0213 posted: 10.28.2015 - 11:13 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @893 So what you're saying is... There's now a difference between the track record and the qualifying record... Well then... IMO that's pretty freaking dumb lol 895. racefangurl posted: 10.28.2015 - 12:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Is Roush better these past weeks or is Ricky just less "Wrecky"? Or is it both? Maybe the Roush cars are somewhat better and that's why Wrecky went away and Ricky came back. 896. Greg22 posted: 10.28.2015 - 12:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Webmaster: I was pretty certain that was not the case since I remember thinking how confusing it was when someone set a new track record in an early round, only to have it not be reflected in the final times. Unfortunately, this happened several times during 2014. I am a fan of Joey Logano and I have seen that lap be forgotten many times, which is the only reason I knew he held the record. nascar.com's Martinsville page also cites Logano as the track record holder: http://www.nascar.com/en_us/nascar-tracks/martinsville-speedway.html As does Jayski.com: http://www.jayski.com/news/tracks/story/_/page/martinsville-speedway 897. 88&4Fan posted: 10.28.2015 - 12:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yeah Webmaster you're great making this website what it is and everything and we all really appreciate your work... but I think you're wrong here, I've also heard the announcers say that its a track record when it happens in the early rounds. 898. webmaster posted: 10.28.2015 - 12:55 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I'm checking with Mike Forde of NASCAR to get the definitive answer. I'm pretty sure he's said before that only an actual pole time counts for a record, but I could be wrong. Edit: FWIW, NASCAR's weekly media book previewing the Martinsville race lists McMurray as the record holder. 899. webmaster posted: 10.28.2015 - 1:11 pm Rate this comment: (6) (0) Mike Forde says that the fastest time in any round is counted as the record, so the fact sheet has been revised to show Logano as the record holder, and NASCAR will be updating their media book as well. 900. Greg22 posted: 10.28.2015 - 1:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Webmaster: Thanks for responding! I absolutely love this website. I'm here everyday, but I don't post a lot. Thanks for all you do. 901. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.28.2015 - 3:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This race has almost doubled the amount of comments of the Kansas race last week. 902. 1995 Subaru WRX STi posted: 10.28.2015 - 3:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ^ Well when people initially blast NASCAR then blame Harvick for being a toolbox then watch as 90% of the fan base collectively loses their minds and throws stuff on the racetrack then create a petition so that Junior can be back in the Chase because NASCAR "screwed" him. Yeah you'll get that. 903. Scott B posted: 10.28.2015 - 5:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ...and short track racing is up next... where there's always something to argue about! 904. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.28.2015 - 7:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If you look on Wikipedia, you will see that Jacob Allen Reynolds will be driving the #12 Penske Ford for 2016 and beyond. Haha 905. Anonymous posted: 10.29.2015 - 9:57 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Stock Car Wikia has Jacob Allen Reynolds listed as the 2015 Sprint Cup Champion as well, nice to see that he can turn that into a long term ride with Penske. HA! 906. racefangurl posted: 10.29.2015 - 12:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) 905, never heard of stock car wikia. It sounds fake. 907. Scott B posted: 10.29.2015 - 12:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It's a poorly organized site and contains incomplete or just plain incorrect information. 908. The Great Dave posted: 10.29.2015 - 1:12 pm Rate this comment: (5) (0) Reminds of several years ago when someone edited wikipedia's 1990 NASCAR season page to make themselves a driver during that season, they even killed themselves off during the rockingham race too. 909. Spen posted: 10.29.2015 - 1:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I remember back in '97 at the first California race, Greg Sacks got the track record in second round qualifying. 910. RogerThat14 posted: 10.29.2015 - 2:10 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) A tweet slipped by a PR rep for Team Penske that Ryan Blaney will be driving the #12 full time in the Sprint Cup Series next year for Team Penske with sponsorship by PPG, Snap-On, AutoZone, and Penske Truck Rental. 911. Big Mac Fan posted: 10.29.2015 - 5:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @910 If that's true, then I have to give major props to Roger Penske for making it work. Blaney's won in every series and it was only a matter of time before he was ready for Cup as he has shown promise in the 21. With him and Elliott battling for ROTY and then Earnhardt, possibly Preece and anyone else that could declare, we might have one of our strongest rookie classes along with 2014 in a long time because it's actually a battle this time. 912. MAR posted: 10.29.2015 - 6:39 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I Hope it is true Blaney deserves full-time in something but then again I won't get excited until I see a official press release cause last year around this time I remember seeing that he was going to drive the #12 xfinity car with those same sponsors. And that wasn't true. 913. racefangurl posted: 10.29.2015 - 8:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 907, I guess I haven't missed too much. It's a worse site than anywhere I go. Sites like nascarfemale.com, jayski.com and anywhere they link to and I don't mention by name, catchfence.com and this one are more my bag. 914. PenskeGuy posted: 10.30.2015 - 7:28 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) Since everyone else has done it, here are my Gimmicky New Chase predictions: Logano: I'm not sure I buy that he peaked too early. He was a bad decision at Homestead away from winning last year's title, so he's shown he can compete for the title, and I believe he will be doing so for years to come. As much as I thought Keselowski would be the guy to take top dog in NASCAR away from Jimmie, I'm starting to think Joey has even more potential for that. Harvick: He'll probably win at Phoenix to get in the Final Four, but after the controversy that surrounds him following this race, he won't be cut any breaks on the track. Keselowski: While he doesn't have the speed to pull off multiple wins before season's end, he does have the speed to consistently be one of the Top 10 guys every week. I can see him or Gordon getting in due to points. Truex: I hate to predict this for him, but barring a win, I don't see him moving on to the Final Four. 2015 has been a great season for him and the #78 team, but neither Martin nor Furniture Row have experienced having the big spotlight thrust on them. Kurt: Might have a shot if he catches some breaks, but the speed he and his team had earlier in the year seems to be gone. Edwards: I know he has two wins, but one was fuel mileage and the other came due to a well-timed caution. Overall, I don't think Carl and his team have the speed or luck to make it to the Final Four. Gordon: He still has a shot at being in the Final Four if he wins at Martinsville. If not, he'll probably point his way in similar to how Newman did last year. Kyle: I don't see him moving on past this round. His history is repeating itself (not winning in the Chase nor matching the speed he had in the regular season). 915. Doom da doom doom doom posted: 10.30.2015 - 11:09 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) To anyone complaining about the exemption for Kurt Busch... The rule of "must attempt to qualify for all races" is in place because it'd be kind of B.S. for a racer who is comfortably high enough in points and has a win or two to just say screw it and not race a few of the races because they simply don't want to. If there's a legit reason for not racing a certain race, then the exemption is granted. I will agree, Kyle missing as much as he did and still coming back in to qualify, is stretching it. 916. Cornys posted: 10.30.2015 - 2:40 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Why should there be a rule requiring a driver to attempt to qualify for all of the races in a season anyways? I think it's crap that rule exists to begin with. 917. Captain51 posted: 10.30.2015 - 2:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @916, I think the rule is present more for the off chance that a part time team wins the Daytona 500. With the rule in place, it would prevent a part time team from winning Daytona, locking themselves into the Chase, then continuing to run part time. At least that's the only way that makes sense to me. 918. 88&4Fan posted: 10.30.2015 - 3:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Cornys, think of it this way. What if someone won the Daytona 500 (or any race early enough in the year), and then decided to just not even bother for the rest of the regular season and take the next five months off until the chase. Thats why there is the top 30 (although I think it should be top 25 at least) rule and why they have to run every race. 919. Scott B posted: 10.30.2015 - 5:24 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I don't have a problem with the exemption, since the playoff system already makes the championship not a cumulative award for the full season. Really, you could start and park the races you didn't want to run if you were already locked into a Chase spot. It would satisfy the letter of the rule, though not the spirit. Can we just go back to not resetting the points during a season? 920. racefangurl posted: 10.30.2015 - 6:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Which is worse: a winless champ, like Gordon could be or Kyle Busch winning it all? 921. Eric posted: 10.30.2015 - 6:21 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @920, It would be Jeff Gordon winning the championship without a win in the mind on NASCAR. My thinking is due to the fact Brian France admitted the it was NASCAR's the track's fault that there was not any safer Barriers where Kyle hit. The deal with Jeff Gordon is the fact Brian France hates championships in the cup series by not having a single win or a 1 win season. I said one win season if that win only happened before homestead. 922. Tide1032 posted: 11.03.2015 - 6:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Final Superspeedway Race for Jeff Gordon 923. black flag posted: 11.03.2015 - 6:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Why no penalty for Harvick . Kenseth gets a 2 race suspension for wrecking the 22 Danica gets fined for wrecking David Gilliland at Martinsville. But Harvick clearly wrecked Trevor Bayne at Talladega and thats ok. Yeah I call bull shit nascar. Nascar is becoming a joke 924. Lucstar88 posted: 11.03.2015 - 6:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The whole Harvick thing is a double edge sword. Yes, we all know he did it. But just turning right into the 6 which was stupid, they couldn't do anything. It would've been easily appealed. Even his spotter scans were fishy, but nothing that could've nailed him. Remember the Spingate incident was caught because they asked the 55 to pit, for specific reason. Kenseth just never braked and just dumped the 22. There's a difference. 925. RaceFanX posted: 11.20.2015 - 7:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jeff Gordon's pole here was his 81st, and last, in the Sprint Cup series. 926. Nascar Lead Lap Points posted: 03.07.2016 - 9:25 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Owner Update #98 Michael Waltrip Waltrip took the same car to Daytona this year but ended up wrecked the car in a practice crash) This was Waltrip last start for his own team http://www.michaelwaltrip.com/news?n_id=830 http://www.michaelwaltrip.com/news?n_id=832 927. Anthony posted: 09.12.2016 - 12:40 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) This race remains the last Cup race in which Kasey Kahne led laps 928. 34McDowellFan posted: 03.06.2018 - 9:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) More than likely Travis Kvapil's last cup start 929. Anonymous posted: 05.04.2018 - 6:49 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) It's been two and a half years and I'm still not over this damn race. Jr got cheated. He should've been in the final 4. 930. #BowmanNation posted: 05.04.2018 - 6:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Just to point out, while NASCAR was taking it safe due to the Dillon wreck, still wouldn't have affected any other mayhem, dillons wreck was just on 1 gwc. Jr got cheated indeed. #JRNATIONFOREVER 931. Anonymous posted: 05.04.2018 - 7:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 929, that's some weak B.S. Jr got beat, period. 932. Anonymous posted: 05.05.2018 - 8:53 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) 929, are you even aware that Penske has won six of the last eight races at Talladega? Three each for Keselowski and Lagano. Nascar didn't give them anything, they earned it. In case you hadn't noticed, restrictor plate racing tends to run in cycles of dominance. Childress, then DEI, then Hendrick, and now Penske. Get over it. 933. JSPorts posted: 05.05.2018 - 10:17 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) 932, did you watch this race? Harvick caused a wreck once when Jr. appeared to possibly get the lead, and then NASCAR didn't throw the caution until Logano was ahead on the final restart. This race brought out the worst in NASCAR's overtime rules, and it also brought out the worst in Kevin Harvick. 934. Matt posted: 06.14.2019 - 2:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Comment 459 actually got half of his prediction right. 935. Mile501 posted: 11.13.2019 - 10:42 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) After realizing that it is difficult to find the point standings before each playoff reset (this website, along with NASCAR's official reports, only shows points after the reset), I am posting them for each playoff elimination race. Here are the points at the conclusion of this race, before the reset (with drivers who won a race during this round listed first): 2015 Contender Round 1. Joey Logano (3 wins) 2. Carl Edwards -27 3. Jeff Gordon -29 3. Kurt Busch -30 5. Brad Keselowski -31 6. Martin Truex, Jr. -35 7. Kevin Harvick -41 8. Kyle Busch -44 -- Eliminated -- 9. Ryan Newman -47 10. Denny Hamlin -52 11. Dale Earnhardt, Jr. -59 12. Matt Kenseth -88 936. Jimmie4life posted: 12.18.2019 - 10:35 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) More than 4 years later, I still don't get why NASCAR didn't wait until the backstretch to wave the caution flag. I understand the safety of drivers, but even waving it on the back end of the track, the drivers still have time to slow down for safe speed, and then, making the call would've been easier. 937. Wil posted: 12.21.2019 - 8:22 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) "Smoking coming out of the 1 of Jamie McMurray!" As cringeworthy as Rick Allen is today, it was nothing compared to his rookie Cup season in 2015. Poor guy couldn't even speak English. 938. Rich posted: 12.12.2020 - 9:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Rick Allen, Jeff Burton and Steve Letarte were the commentators. Dave Burns, Mike Massaro, Marty Snider and Kelli Stavast were the pit road reporters. 939. KaseyKahneFan94595 posted: 02.25.2021 - 3:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Still one of the worst finishes to a race I've ever seen. A shame too, because this race was amazing until the final 2 restarts where nearly every driver lost brain cells. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Post a comment:* Your comment may not appear immediately - all comments must be approved by the moderator. Name: Comment: