|| *Comments on the 2015 AAA Texas 500:* First Page | Previous Page | Next Page | Last Page | View All On One Page View the most recent comment | Post a comment <#post> 1. Kenny posted: 11.06.2015 - 9:13 pm Rate this comment: (6) (3) I hope Joey wins just so he can keep pissing ppl off Tbh the way the fans have been acting over this has pissed me off more then even the crash it's self 2. An Aussie Commentator posted: 11.06.2015 - 9:18 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) @1 I know right? 3. MAR posted: 11.06.2015 - 9:21 pm Rate this comment: (3) (8) I hope Joey goes out there and whips some ass Sunday I mean I wanna see a dominant ass kicking go Slice Bread!!!!!! Thumb it down all u want but somebody has to be the bad guy. 4. racefangurl posted: 11.06.2015 - 9:27 pm Rate this comment: (3) (3) MAR, I'm with you, so don't feel alone. 5. 88&4Fan posted: 11.06.2015 - 9:34 pm Rate this comment: (5) (3) Well I sure hate to break up the Logano party but I hope he misses the final four. 6. Anonymous posted: 11.06.2015 - 9:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Go ahead and hate. We can't all like every driver. 7. 88&4Fan posted: 11.06.2015 - 9:44 pm Rate this comment: (5) (1) And I also hope Kenseth wins at Homestead just to shove it in NASCAR's face for this completely idiotic points system. You know that was the reason why he got suspended, not because of anything "safety" related as much as Bri-Bri wants to claim. 8. MAR posted: 11.06.2015 - 9:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (3) The way NASCAR manipulates races now a days I doubt Matt ever wins again. In words of the WWE chairman Vince McMahon Matt screwed Matt end of story. 9. Benjamin LordLowe posted: 11.06.2015 - 9:52 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Vince McMahon is an out of touch old man who seriously needs to retire for the good of the WWE. 10. 88&4Fan posted: 11.06.2015 - 10:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 8- People said the same thing about Kurt Busch... and NASCAR tried as hard as they could (Fontana) but he eventually won... and then he won again. 11. racefangurl posted: 11.06.2015 - 10:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Only one of the Roush drivers qualified good. I wish the folks at Roush could do something about their crappy performance. 12. Big Mac Fan posted: 11.06.2015 - 10:32 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) I'm going to be at the race Sunday, I loved going to the April race so I convinced my dad and my sister to come with me again. There is a reason why Texas gets two dates though. Although it's probably one of the least exciting tracks on the schedule, the atmosphere is great. The track is built so you can see all of the track from almost anywhere which is great for fans, the evening has a nice cool breeze to it, and the world's largest flat screen also helps. Texas in general has a lot of fans and that's why the stands in the Spring race were almost entirely sold out for when I went there. And I just find a lot of excitement going there is person whether it's boring or not. So let's hope we have a great race Sunday! 13. Big Mac Fan posted: 11.06.2015 - 10:36 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Also in the last 3 races I hope there's as much controversy as possible. Anything to put this points system away for good. 14. racefangurl posted: 11.06.2015 - 10:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 13, I'm tired of all the drama! If I'd seen it, I might have decided to not watch races on TV anymore, just RaceTrax every one. 15. The Long Shot posted: 11.06.2015 - 11:06 pm Rate this comment: (1) (2) "I hope Joey wins just so he can keep pissing ppl off Tbh the way the fans have been acting over this has pissed me off more then even the crash it's self" Very, very true. Which is why I'm done giving a shit about what the fans think. Other than those that post on this board, my opinion of NASCAR fans is at an all-time low currently. 16. Stewart14rocks posted: 11.06.2015 - 11:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Will be interesting to see what Erik Jones can do. He quified 6th and could possibly contend for a win or top 10 17. 88&4Fan posted: 11.06.2015 - 11:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Here's the thing though. Controversy = Headlines Headlines = Ratings Ratings = $$$ Do you really think that if there's as much controversy as possible in these last few races, that they would do away with the points system? No, I think thats exactly what Braindead and his cronies want. The best hope to get rid of the points system I think would be for someone who barely sneaks into the chase with no wins to go all the way to Homestead and win the championship without winning a race. And Newman almost did that last year... 18. JRacingFast posted: 11.07.2015 - 12:03 am Rate this comment: (1) (2) Go Erik Jones! 19. Chives5150 posted: 11.07.2015 - 12:52 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) I'm hoping Casey Mears can pull off a Jamie McMurray or A.J. Allmendinger Martinsville-esque surprise performance on Sunday. 20. Sector posted: 11.07.2015 - 1:10 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Do you really think that if there's as much controversy as possible in these last few races, that they would do away with the points system? No, I think thats exactly what Braindead and his cronies want. The best hope to get rid of the points system I think would be for someone who barely sneaks into the chase with no wins to go all the way to Homestead and win the championship without winning a race. And Newman almost did that last year..." In all honesty, Newman had to win Homestead to beat Harvick as they were 1-2 on the track. Newman actually wouldn't be winless if he somehow got by him lmao 21. RWR posted: 11.07.2015 - 4:38 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) the #62 car is not a Ford this week? 22. JHN#8 posted: 11.07.2015 - 5:43 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Nope. They pulled their Toyota out I guess this week! lol Still slow as hell though!! 23. 88&4Fan posted: 11.07.2015 - 7:02 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Still he was winless all year and got to the final four and finished second. Thats pretty close wouldn't you say? Besides... if that had been 39 out of the 43 cars that Newman was running second to, he would've been the champion. With no wins. 24. 88&4Fan posted: 11.07.2015 - 7:02 am Rate this comment: (1) (1) I honestly think Erik Jones has a very good chance to pull a McMurray. Like Stewart14Rocks said it will be interesting to see how he does. Anyone but the 22 is fine with me at this point. 25. Spen posted: 11.07.2015 - 7:51 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Not a very encouraging qualifying run for Truex. 26. Spen posted: 11.07.2015 - 8:04 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) Calling it now. Jones will be driving the #20 in 2017. If not sooner. 27. MAR posted: 11.07.2015 - 8:23 am Rate this comment: (1) (1) @26 I'm with you I said it on the martinsville race page Dollar General will fall in love with EJ and dump Matt by 2017 hell I wouldn't be surprised if Dollar General signed on to his xfinity ride next season I'm rooting for Logano this week but I wouldn't mind Jones winning Pheonix. 28. dennyfan11 posted: 11.07.2015 - 9:53 am Rate this comment: (1) (1) My thoughts on the penalty. Overall, I echo everyone's thoughts. This penalty is horrendous. Jeff Gordon gets wrecked, drives slow for one lap, wrecks Bowyer and Logano, fights: Doesn't get suspended. Matt Kenseth gets wrecked, doesn't drive slow, doesn't fight, but wrecks a champion contender: Suspended for 2 races. Danica Patrick gets wrecked, wrecks somebody UNDER CAUTION: doesn't get suspended. Kevin Harvick intentionally wrecks a dozen cars: No suspension. They can't suspend their champion contender! What this shows is NASCAR's blatant Danica bias, as well as their bias towards chase contenders. I bet if Kenseth had wrecked, say Jeb Burton for wrecking him, he wouldn't have gotten suspended. This just shows Brian France's stupidity at his best. Even worse, they didn't suspend him for Homestead, which shows that they want tons of controversy so the ratings would be through the roof. I really hope this doesn't happen, but I fear that Logano will wreck Kenseth to get revenge, leading Kenseth to drive backwards, hit Logano, push him into the pit road wall where the barrels are, and seriously injure him. In a perfect world, this should prove that the new chase is stupid, and should be scrapped. But the controversy of the last two races will probably mean they keep the chase, as to NASCAR, controversy equals ratings, and ratings equal money. If anything, they'll make the chase MORE gimmicky to further boost controversy. My guess is that next year, drivers will start getting free passes into the next round for wrecking other contenders, which NASCAR thinks will help boost fan interest by having every race becoming an insane crashfest. This will likely backfire, so NASCAR will just keep making the rules more and more gimmicky until it makes WWE look like Bill France Jr. Era NASCAR. It's a no win situation. Even if there is no controvery, NASCAR will think it's a bad thing, and make the chase worse. Overall, between the Penske/Gibbs domination, terrible officiating, and overall controversial outcomes for races, this is a serious contender for the worst season since i started watching in 2011. 29. racefangurl posted: 11.07.2015 - 10:39 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) 28, they want the young fans, but it doesn't always work. I have some e-friends that are young and have lost or are losing most of their NASCAR interest. They probably think younger people need controversy and mayhem or they'll get bored and go ahead and do something post a zillion selfies on Instagram or visit any social media they happen to use, text their buddies or play some video game, like Gran Turismo. 30. Anonymous posted: 11.07.2015 - 11:15 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "28, they want the young fans, but it doesn't always work. I have some e-friends that are young and have lost or are losing most of their NASCAR interest. They probably think younger people need controversy and mayhem or they'll get bored and go ahead and do something post a zillion selfies on Instagram or visit any social media they happen to use, text their buddies or play some video game, like Gran Turismo. " NASCAR wants to be Grand Theft Auto, who are you kidding? 31. BluesTravelerFan posted: 11.07.2015 - 11:28 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) As far as what has went down this week, I pretty much agree with what most have said, there was no "right" move for NASCAR to make. I already stated my opinion on the whole incident last week, I respect everyone else's views, and don't have a problem with it, but for myself I am going to hope Joey doesn't make it through(although I am aware that's probably wishful thinking). I don't endorse what Matt did and he had to punished, but after how mad I was after Talladega(even though that wasn't really him that caused the trouble there) and the Kansas race I was glad to see him knocked him down a peg. I WILL say this though: I gained a SMALL measure of respect for him back after the way he handled it, I have to admit I didn't think he would take it that well, although he could have come up with a better retort that to call Matt a "coward". In the end, I don't have a problem with those that want to see Joey succeed, but I'm entitled to my opinion as well though. On a related note NASCAR seriously needs to go back to the old chase.... On another note it will be really interesting to see what happens with Brad on the pole, lost in the shuffle last week was the fact that he dominated a good portion of the race only to end up basically wrecking himself(as well as the 20). I'd say other than Joey probably winning one of these two races I think the points order will stay the same and we will see a Jeff/Joey/Busch/Truex final four. 32. Cornys posted: 11.07.2015 - 11:45 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Big Mac Fan Have fun tomorrow :) 33. Cornys posted: 11.07.2015 - 11:47 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I have some e-friends that are young and have lost or are losing most of their NASCAR interest." How young are we talking about? I'm 21. I lost interest when I was in my late teens. 34. BMan0213 posted: 11.07.2015 - 11:48 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I'd say other than Joey probably winning one of these two races I think the points order will stay the same and we will see a Jeff/Joey/Busch/Truex final four." Phoenix is next week though. I find it pretty hard to think someone other than Hravick is gonna win that race lol. 35. BluesTravelerFan posted: 11.07.2015 - 12:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @34 Possibly, I like his chances a lot better after all this stuff faded the heat off him lol. 36. Sean posted: 11.07.2015 - 12:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Indifferent to Kenseth's penalty. My first instinct was excitement that NASCAR would actually suspend someone for rough driving in a Cup race, which is seen so rarely. Usually, Cup drivers are only suspended for failing drug tests or intentionally wrecking people in Xfinity/truck races. However, as dennyfan pointed out, there are a lot of instances of NASCAR not penalizing drivers for similar on-track contact, and in my opinion a lot of instances of NASCAR not penalizing drivers for actually WORSE on-track incidents. NASCAR has always been hypocritical about this sort of thing. At the 2001 spring Bristol race, Tony Stewart intentionally spun Jeff Gordon in the pits after the race was over after Gordon spun Stewart on the last lap. The pits were crowded with people and it was miraculous that no one was hit. At the 2007 spring Dover race, Kurt Busch swerved onto pit road with reckless abandon right next to Tony Stewart's car after Stewart spun Busch earlier in the race. A lot of people freaked out about this because Stewart's crewman had to jump out of the way to avoid being hit by Busch, but still, Busch seemed more under control in that race to me than Stewart was at Bristol. Even though what Busch did was at a higher speed, I think it was actually less dangerous. It might have merited suspension, but if it did Stewart deserved worse. My opinion for the worst on-track incident I've seen in a Cup race was when Kyle Busch intentionally spun Casey Mears under red flag conditions at Charlotte (unfortunately I don't remember which race it was). He wasn't penalized at all and it surprisingly went unnoticed. Yet Kyle is suspended from a Cup race for intentionally wrecking Hornaday in a truck race under caution (while Jeff Burton is not suspended from any Cup races for intentionally wrecking Jeff Gordon at Texas in a Cup race). So I can look at this either way. On the one hand, I'm excited that NASCAR has *finally* gotten tough on excessively rough driving and has shown some backbone. On the other hand, I can understand that this penalty is not exactly commensurate with what NASCAR has done in the past and if they don't penalize other people who do similar things with penalties like this in the future, this penalty will come off looking draconian. I support the penalty if NASCAR is going to suspend more people for on-track rough driving in Cup races the future, but not if they're going to continue to only do so every 5-10 years as they have done in the recent past. Since I imagine they're setting an example of Kenseth here and won't treat other drivers the same way in the future (given their past history of extending Tony Stewart's probations and so on) I guess I'm against it. I'm still very excited to see what Erik Jones can do in the #20 car though. 37. Sean posted: 11.07.2015 - 12:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Just looked it up and apparently the Ky. Busch/Mears incident was in the 2006 spring Phoenix race. Why do I remember that being at Charlotte? Hmm, whatever. I still think Kyle should have been suspended for that (which was unprecedented) more than the incident he actually was suspended for (when other drivers had gotten away with that sort of thing without suspension in the past). 38. BluesTravelerFan posted: 11.07.2015 - 12:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @36 According to Burton, that incident wasn't intentional(would more sense though). 39. 1995 Subaru WRX STi posted: 11.07.2015 - 1:02 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) "Very, very true. Which is why I'm done giving a shit about what the fans think. Other than those that post on this board, my opinion of NASCAR fans is at an all-time low currently." My "all-time low" is lower then yours. Being that way for 12 years. NASCAR may have a management problem but it also has a fan problem. I do not see fans excepting responsibility for what they are doing (aka throwing stuff on the race track. Which seems a lot of people are giving a pass on including Ricky Craven) I'll go short and sweet: 1. Matt is still a classless driver and a classless champion. And he is a flaming hypocrite too. 2. I do agree with the 2 race sit? No not really. But more people defend Kenseth the more i want too agree with NASCAR. 3. There is no "driver code." It is like the NASCAR rule book... written in pencil. It does not exist on this worldly plain. It is something made up. You can buy a NASCAR rulebook (it is true). You can not buy a "driver rulebook" because it doesn't exist. Sunday, Monday and Tuesday my code, my ethics as a fan was violated. And because of that, my fandom in this sport is over. I"m not going too be a fan of a sport that has a bunch 5th grade neanderthals behind the wheel and a bunch of 5th grade neanderthals sitting in the stands, behind computers and TVs. (BTW that isn't most of you on here and another place i've stopped posting.) I'll come back when people grow the f**k up. But i do not see that anytime soon. So Spen, schroder, murb, smiff been a pleasure. Have a good one. 40. racefangurl posted: 11.07.2015 - 1:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 33, I mean young grownups (maybe teens, too) when I say young fans. One of my friends I referred to is 25 and the other is almost 32. 41. murb posted: 11.07.2015 - 3:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Just looked it up and apparently the Ky. Busch/Mears incident was in the 2006 spring Phoenix race. Why do I remember that being at Charlotte?" There were two separate incidents. Phoenix was where Kyle rammed him under caution, and Charlotte was where Kyle got loose under Mears and wrecked all by himself, and then threw his HANS at Mears under caution. 42. murb posted: 11.07.2015 - 3:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Phoenix was where Kyle rammed him under caution" Red flag, I mean. 43. Alex posted: 11.07.2015 - 3:13 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Another kick in the teeth as Lennie Pond also has been diagnosed with lung cancer. 44. Big Mac Fan posted: 11.07.2015 - 3:21 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Cancer sucks. Hopefully he can recover. We've lost too many people to cancer or just lost too many people in general this year. :( 45. 02Justin10 posted: 11.07.2015 - 3:22 pm Rate this comment: (3) (3) I'm with the band that's hoping Logano goes out here these next two weeks and win. And I'm fine with Matt Kenseth's suspension. He deserved it for wrecking Joey on purpose but then being too coward to come out and say he did it. That's why I really like Matt's suspension..."I must have cut a tire or something." Just say you did it and earn more fans and respect. 46. Big Mac Fan posted: 11.07.2015 - 3:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @45 Unfortunately, the majority of fans loved Kenseth doing that, so he got even more fans than he would have if he admitted it, which bugs me a lot. If Logano switched places with Dale Jr., Matt would not be able to show his face in public for the next couple months lol. I think a one race suspension would have been enough. Anyways I wouldn't be surprised to see Keselowski or Logano take out Edwards or Busch. After all, tempers flare and we all know what happened in this race a year ago. 47. 88&4Fan posted: 11.07.2015 - 4:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Webmaster the link for this years fall Dover race is sending me here, could you please fix that? 48. LMAO posted: 11.07.2015 - 4:50 pm Rate this comment: (2) (6) #MattDidNothingWrong 49. LMAO posted: 11.07.2015 - 4:51 pm Rate this comment: (1) (6) #LetYourSonFightHisOwnFights 50. LMAO posted: 11.07.2015 - 4:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (6) #PremiumMotorsportsShouldQuitEverythingInLife 51. LMAO posted: 11.07.2015 - 4:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (7) #EddieGossageShouldPutaSharkTankontheBackstretchtoAttractMoreFans 52. LMAO posted: 11.07.2015 - 5:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (7) #TwitterIsForPeopleWithNoLife 53. Anonymous posted: 11.07.2015 - 5:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) **Cleanup on aisle 3, please. 54. Driver X posted: 11.07.2015 - 6:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #UselessHashtagJustBecause 55. Big Mac Fan posted: 11.07.2015 - 6:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #ItIsReallyAnnoyingWritingTonsOfMeaninglessHashtags 56. dennyfan11 posted: 11.07.2015 - 7:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #Hashtagsarestupid 57. MAR posted: 11.07.2015 - 7:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) LMAO is exactly what we don't need on here. 58. 88&4Fan posted: 11.07.2015 - 9:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Please tell me that this "LMAO" idiot is just a one time thing and not someone who is actually going to become a regular poster 59. Benjamin LordLowe posted: 11.07.2015 - 9:57 pm Rate this comment: (1) (2) In Case anyone was wondering nothing bad has happened to DSFF he's alive & well as a matter of fact he's going to make a dramatic return to the comment board in just a few weeks time 60. dennyfan11 posted: 11.07.2015 - 10:09 pm Rate this comment: (3) (1) No one was wondering this. 61. RaceFanX posted: 11.07.2015 - 11:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Michael Annett and the #46 team had a rough week coming into this race. The team's hauler caught fire en route to Texas for this race, destroying two race cars and the trailer but thankfully resulting in no injuries to the hauler's driver or crew. The team sent a backup hauler and some more cars to the track and is still ready to race Sunday, here's hoping they can get a much-needed good run and put this week behind them. 62. Zackary Shawn posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:59 am Rate this comment: (2) (0) I haven't made a comment about it on here--I rarely make comments on here at all anymore, actually--but I'm having a hard time understanding how Logano became the villain in all of this. How is what he did at Kenseth any different than what Dale Earnhardt did to Terry Labonte in 1999 at Bristol? Yet, that move is usually celebrated as one of the great moments in NASCAR history... 63. 23andJoe posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:28 am Rate this comment: (3) (0) It's because, even now, Logano is seen as a Silver Spoon Driver. And in society as a whole (not just in racing) this sort of thing has become The Root Of All Evil in the minds of many. Never mind that Kyle Petty got his start in "daddy's cars"... I, honestly, in this case, believe that the blind squirrel found its nut, the blind pig turned up a truffle, and NASCAR got it right. Logano vs Kenseth Round I was 'one 'a them racing deals'. Kenseth vs Logano Round II was a blatant 'ruin-his-season takeout'. (And if it had been Kyle Busch instead of Kenseth, Logano would be in the process of being nominated for sainthood.) (Yes, spending a few years looking at the comments here has made me increasingly jaded/bitter towards the fandom, why do you ask?) 64. WinstonCupStandings posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:31 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) One of the Penske cars will win Texas (my guess is Logano, but it could be either) and the other Penske car will win at Jeff Gordon International Raceway next week, Harvick will make it in on points. 65. Baker posted: 11.08.2015 - 8:15 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) The Silver Spoon argument is lame. Almost any young drive who gets this far anymore is a silver spoon product. 66. Spen posted: 11.08.2015 - 8:17 am Rate this comment: (1) (1) Subaru: We'll miss you. I hope the overall situation improves to where you can come back. 67. Spen posted: 11.08.2015 - 8:21 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) By the way, Webmaster: The links to Kenny Irwin's page seem to be broken. 68. Big Mac Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 8:57 am Rate this comment: (1) (2) Earnhardt took out Labonte, a popular and well respected driver and he got tons of jeers from the crowd. The Martinsville takeout is considered one of the greatest moves ever because Logano is hated by almost all of the fans. Simple as that. 69. MAR posted: 11.08.2015 - 9:39 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) No Earnhardt's move on labonte is different they we're actually racing for a win and in victory lane Earnhardt was man enough to say basically yea I did it. And NASCAR nation knew that's how Earnhardt was but in kenseth case he gave a 2year old excuse and a bold face lielie talking about he cut a tire come dude have some balls and say u took logano out that's why I feel kenseth got what he deserved. 70. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 11:46 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) He was talking about what happened at Kansas, not what happened at Martinsville. 71. Tyler posted: 11.08.2015 - 1:17 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) forgotten fact: Brad Keselowski made his Cup debut in this race 7 years ago. a sprint cup champion and badass guy! Go Brad! 72. jabber1990 posted: 11.08.2015 - 1:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) even NBC knows this is going to be a crappy race when they are broadcasting driver intros disclaimer: driver intros are ok during the Daytona 500, because Daytona 500 73. Stewart14rocks posted: 11.08.2015 - 1:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Joey gon get rekt today. 74. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 1:43 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) To Krista Voda and Kyle Petty: Do not compare Joey Lolgano to Dale Earnhardt. Ever. Again. 75. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 1:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The race is on NBC today for those of you who are wondering. 76. jabber1990 posted: 11.08.2015 - 1:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) is Eddie Gossage the one paying for the parachuting and all the farewell stuff? 77. BMan0213 posted: 11.08.2015 - 1:56 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) @69 while I somewhat agree about Kenseth, I don't think he was "denying" it. Knowing his personality I think he was just trying to be a smart ass. I never once thought he was trying to convince people he didn't do it on purpose. I think he was just trying to be funny. 78. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Personally, I'm hoping for a controversy and BS-free race today considering we've pretty much already hit the annual Chase BS quota in the past two races...But I'm not getting my hopes TOO high...I remember how this race had about half-a-dozen questionable cautions last year... Also, gonna be strange not seeing Matt Kenseth in the field, but hopefully Erik Jones can give the #20 a good run. He had a strong run going in the #18 back in Kansas before he crashed; let's see how he fares today. 79. jabber1990 posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) just because you're talented doesn't mean that you can sing the national anthem or are you a runner-up because you can't sing it? 80. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Also, what is this I'm hearing about NASCAR strongly considering implementing the Chase in the Truck Series? Do we seriously NEED to add all the unnecessary drama to the lower series as well?! 81. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "just because you're talented doesn't mean that you can sing the national anthem" Meh, it would be hard to top Madison Rising's (the most patriotic rock band in America!) ridiculous show-boating performance at the Daytona Nationwide race last year... 82. David posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This will be the first Cup race without Matt Kenseth in the field since the 1999 NAPA 500 at Atlanta. 83. MAR posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) I'm 50/50 on a truck series chase idk why it's weird but that series does need a buzz. 84. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:08 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) HAHAHAHAHA they just cut out the Blake Shelton segment 85. Nathan8848 posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:10 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I'll be watching, but won't comment. Probably forgot all about me, so probably no need for this tbh. 86. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) A Benghazi movie... I really don't know what to think about that. 87. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) HAHAHAHAHA they just cut out the Blake Shelton segment Still 5-6 seconds too long for me. 88. jabber1990 posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "A Benghazi movie... I really don't know what to think about that. " how do you make a movie about that, 1)without offending ISIS 2) especially if nobody knows what happened 89. David posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "especially if nobody knows what happened" Minor details like this never stopped Hollywood before. 90. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Rain yesterday morning so there's gonna be a competition caution isn't there? 91. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Rain yesterday morning so there's gonna be a competition caution isn't there?" Would bet on it. Is it just me, or has this season had more competition cautions than any other previously...? Green flag waves and Keselowski gets the jump at the start. 92. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Lets-a-goooooo! 93. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Around goes Logano!!! Yes! 94. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Logano blows a tire and goes around in turn 4! Well, this could be the end of his Chase... 95. Nathan8848 posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Dang, Logano spins with a left rear goes down. More damage then appears. 96. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Somewhere, Matt Kenseth is smiling. But with all the free pass and wave around rules I bet he still finishes in the top five if not the win. 97. Lucstar88 posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Lots of foam came out. Bad start for Joey. 98. jabber1990 posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I don't want Logano to advance, not because I hate Logano but because it'll just show how dumb the chase system is thank God Logano was on the straightaway and not in the turn, that would have been ugly if in the turn 99. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Heavy damage to Logano's car. The rear window has blown out, the rear quarter panel is severely warped. They're probably going to have to take that car to the garage... Most of the cars in the back half of the field pit. And NBC confirms we have a competition caution coming up at lap 25. This is like...what, the 12th time this year a race has had one? 100. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Rick Allen just said competition caution at lap 25. This really is becoming a weekly thing now. 101. Smiff_2 posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) WOW....Logano's gonna have to get through Harvick for the win next week if he wants to race for the title. 102. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Logano goes behind the wall. The fans are obviously really happy about that, as you'd expect... 103. jabber1990 posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ...and the crowd goes wild! 104. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:33 pm Rate this comment: (3) (1) Logano to the garage! *points at 22 car* HA HA! 105. RaceFanX posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Logano goes to the garage amid cheers from the fans. Bummer. Penske got his first podium as a V8 Supercar owner earlier today at a race in New Zealand. If his NASCAR team is going to add to the success it looks like it's up to Bad Brad...who is leading... 106. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) More cheering. Sigh. Surely Kenseth's retaliation was enough for the crowd, right? Or did the suspension ruin that? 107. Lucstar88 posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) No practice time. Tires are really wearing out, this could be interesting. Also likely chase over for Joey. No way he wins at phoenix. 108. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well, now he DEFINITELY has to win Phoenix to advance. Considering that is Harvick's personal playground...that's gonna be a HELL of a tall order. 109. MAR posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:34 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Wow I'm watching football the rest of the day goodbye folks 110. David posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Unbelievable turn of events. Logano and the #22 team have to bring their A-game at Phoenix next week. 111. TS1420 posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wow! Phoenix is gonna be must-win for Logano & the 22 team. Another dominate driver poised to be knocked out of contention for the championship. 112. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I can't see anyone other than Harvick winning next week. 113. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Larson is looking strong early, maybe he can get some redemption from last night. 114. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I don't know. Nobody has ever won five consecutive races on a superspeedway before (the record is four shared by Bill Elliott Michigan '85-'86, Dale Earnhardt, Jr. Talladega '01-03, Jimmie Johnson Charlotte '04-'05, and Dover). Harvick would have to be the favorite, but even with four straight wins, just being the favorite doesn't necessarily make him a 50% favorite. 115. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:39 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "More cheering. Sigh. Surely Kenseth's retaliation was enough for the crowd, right? Or did the suspension ruin that?" Remember, Joey Logano is a member of the Silver Spoon Axis of Evil, which the majority of NASCAR's fanbase cannot stand and think is THE main problem with the sport these days. Judging from a few comments I've seen, I'm glad the fans aren't in charge of NASCAR because they would probably prohibit anyone whose family makes more than a certain amount of income annually from competing in the sport... 116. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sorry, I meant to say and Harvick, not and Dover. 117. The Long Shot posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) "Logano to the garage! *points at 22 car* HA HA!" Your grudge clearly isn't showing at all... 118. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:40 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) As if anybody who arrived in NASCAR even as long ago as Matt Kenseth did wasn't pretty rich (considering how big-money NASCAR already was in the '90s)? As if Kenseth himself didn't make his name by doing a bump-and-run on Tony Stewart of all people? I sometimes don't understand why some drivers are called 'blue-collar' and others are not. I mean most people would say Mark Martin is a blue-collar driver, but his father owned a trucking company... Same for Sam Hornish before he entered the IRL. 119. David posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ryan Blaney hits the wall. Bummer. 120. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ryan Blaney is off the pace after another apparent tire problem sent him into the wall. Sheesh, is this gonna be one of those races where the cars can't go more than 20 laps without tires exploding? 121. RaceFanX posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ryan Blaney and the Wood Brothers' #21 Ford has a flatafter hitting the wall. Not a good day so far for the Ford boys. 122. The Long Shot posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:41 pm Rate this comment: (2) (2) "More cheering. Sigh. Surely Kenseth's retaliation was enough for the crowd, right? Or did the suspension ruin that?" Didn't you hear? Logano's the devil incarnate and Kenseth was the angel sent from heaven to bring justice upon him. 123. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) BK has gotta be awfully nervous now. 124. The Long Shot posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Logano and Blaney both out of contention. There goes my interest in this race. 125. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Another flat tire for a Penske car. Unfortunately this one is Blaney. Hopefully, this cancels out the competition caution. 126. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:42 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Neither Logano nor Kenseth is cleaner than the other. In fact, I'd hesitate to say any stars of the past 20 years were 'clean' (maybe the Labonte brothers and Kasey Kahne, but I struggle to think of anybody else), so I end up having more respect for the people who don't pretend to be clean in the long run. 127. David posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm with Schroeder...I sense that we haven't seen the last of the tire issues. 128. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Remember, Joey Logano is a member of the Silver Spoon Axis of Evil, which the majority of NASCAR's fanbase cannot stand and think is THE main problem with the sport these days. Judging from a few comments I've seen, I'm glad the fans aren't in charge of NASCAR because they would probably prohibit anyone whose family makes more than a certain amount of income annually from competing in the sport..." Which would also eliminate the offspring of any driver who has raced in big time auto racing the last 20 years. Retroactively, Dale Jr would qualify as a silver spoon. 129. dennyfan11 posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) So Logano's chase is over. Thanks Oba- I mean NASCAR. 130. The Long Shot posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Neither Logano nor Kenseth is cleaner than the other. In fact, I'd hesitate to say any stars of the past 20 years were 'clean' (maybe the Labonte brothers and Kasey Kahne, but I struggle to think of anybody else), so I end up having more respect for the people who don't pretend to be clean in the long run." Yeah, I certainly don't think Logano is the cleanest driver that's ever lived. He's made his share of questionable moves in the past. I just don't think the Kansas incident was one of them is all. Just my take. 131. David posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Denny Hamlin with fuel pump issues. Good grief. Battle of attrition, coming right up. 132. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bill, EVERYONE knows Richard Petty's last start was Jeff Gordon's first start. I even know Davey Allison's last start was Jeff Burton and Joe Nemechek's first start. I admit few of us knew that bit about Jimmy Carter though. 133. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "In fact, I'd hesitate to say any stars of the past 20 years were 'clean' (maybe the Labonte brothers and Kasey Kahne, but I struggle to think of anybody else), so I end up having more respect for the people who don't pretend to be clean in the long run." I can think of one occasion where Terry Labonte wasn't exactly clean...the 1994 Goody's 500 at Bristol. Labonte was running top 5 in the early laps when contact with the lapped car of Lake Speed sent him into the wall hard. He spent about 300 laps in the garage getting repairs, and shortly after rejoining the race got into the back of Speed and spun him into the inside wall, taking him out of the race. He almost immediately parked the car afterwards. That's...about the only incident I can think of for either Labontes off-hand, though... Denny Hamlin has gone to the garage as well. High attrition rate early, 3 cars are off the track before lap 30. 134. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:46 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) "Which would also eliminate the offspring of any driver who has raced in big time auto racing the last 20 years. Retroactively, Dale Jr would qualify as a silver spoon." Meh. I don't know. Ken Ragan seemed to be an underfunded independent when he raced, so maybe David Ragan wasn't all that loaded. Maybe David Reutimann too (Buzzie Reutimann was just a grassroots short track driver for the most part, and there wasn't big money there...) The offspring of a star (or a car owner), very much YES. 135. dennyfan11 posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Brad Keselowski pulling away. Kyle Busch takes second. 136. Anonymous posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:49 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) " Meh. I don't know. Ken Ragan seemed to be an underfunded independent when he raced, so maybe David Ragan wasn't all that loaded. Maybe David Reutimann too (Buzzie Reutimann was just a grassroots short track driver for the most part, and there wasn't big money there...) The offspring of a star (or a car owner), very much YES. " David Reutimann spent an awful long time in the All Pro Series. If he was a silver spooner, he'd have shot right through. Just supporting you on that 137. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And now HARVICK has a flat tire. Jesus...Christ... 138. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick with an ISH-SHOE! 139. David posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kevin Harvick with a right rear down. 140. dennyfan11 posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And now Harvick blows a tire! The top two drivers of the year eliminated from contention in 30 laps! 141. Smiff_2 posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jesus, this is gonna be the 2008 Brickyard 400 all over again, isn't it? 142. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hope Harvick finishes 2nd next week and barely misses. It would be so fitting. I'm now hoping for the least deserving four to advance: Gordon, Truex, Keselowski, and Edwards, just for the laughs. 143. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Problems for Harvick! This is REALLY gonna be a battle of attrition. (It won't matter for him though since he'll win Phoenix) 144. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If anything, this will only give Harvick even MORE motivation to dominate Phoenix. This race is quickly turning into the 2008 Brickyard 400. 145. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) McMurray, Truex, Dale Jr, Kasey Kahne, and maybe Jimmie Johnson (people hate him because he wins a lot but can you name the last time when he drove overaggressively? Maybe Talladega ten years ago...) are probably the only big name drivers who are clean. 146. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:51 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Long Shot- we're all entitled to our opinions. For instance, I know that you hate Kurt Busch but I respect your opinion. 147. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) I am having flashbacks to the '08 Brickyard 400. Which is NEVER a good thing considering that was one of the most ABYSMAL races ever run... So does this mean NASCAR is going to have to throw a competition caution every 15 laps or so to protect the tires like in that race? If that's the case, we're gonna break the NASCAR record for cautions in a race... 148. David posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "And now Harvick blows a tire! The top two drivers of the year eliminated from contention in 30 laps!" Logano was eliminated by freak damage from the spin. I wouldn't be counting Harvick out just yet. 149. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) McMurray and Truex are not big names, but are clean. Junior has won three races due to bump-and-run passes and did spin out somebody to win a Busch race once, although he isn't TOO bad. Johnson caused all those plate wrecks and seemed to wreck Kurt Busch a lot for no reason. I stand by only Kahne among the current drivers. Actually, I think Greg Biffle is one of the cleaner ones, despite people going on about how 'aggressive' he is all the time. I admit Biffle was totally obnoxious in the trucks, but not so much in Cup. 150. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick is much more fortunate than Joey, he was able to get it slowed down and get back to the pits without the tire destroying his car in the process. Could still come back from that. 151. TS1420 posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:53 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Another banner race for Goodyear it looks like... 152. Lucstar88 posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This is getting weird. 153. David posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin's issue wasn't the fuel pump. They changed it, sent him back out, and the fuel pressure was still low. 154. typo posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:55 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) No Need for a cation. Just because Harvick with slow doesn't mean its a Hazard................ 155. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) YES 156. BMan0213 posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:59 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Which would also eliminate the offspring of any driver who has raced in big time auto racing the last 20 years. Retroactively, Dale Jr would qualify as a silver spoon." I really wouldn't put Jr under that category and I'm not just saying that because I'm a fan. Sr. made him work for everything in fact it wasn't even his idea to put Jr. in his Busch car. Tony Eury Sr. had to beg Big E to give Jr a chance in it. Sure having Dale Sr. as a Dad helped, but Jr had to work pretty damn hard to get that chance in that car. 157. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) So how many laps will we make it this time before someone's tire explodes...? 158. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 2:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Okay, when is Harvick going to serve his penalty, which was displayed on the screen but not mentioned by the announcers? I've seen him gain four positions on the scoring pylon. 159. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick is a man on a mission after the restart. Already gained 16 positions and is continuing to march steadily forward. 160. dennyfan11 posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And now Dale Jr in trouble! This is crazy! 161. David posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Dale Earnhardt Jr. with an issue. 162. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And now Junior is off the pace. To quote Charlie Brown..."GOOD GRIEF!" 163. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Speaking of Jr, he had an issue, kept it off the wall and made it to the pits 164. Lucstar88 posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Another tire issue.. 165. TS1420 posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jr now with issues. Goodyear corporate HQ to be burned down. 166. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ...This is quickly becoming a strong candidate for worst race of the entire season. Can't be the only one thinking that? 167. Lucstar88 posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) TONY WITH A TIRE ISSUE!!! caution out 168. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I thought Harvick was penalized immediately after the restart for pitting too soon? Was the screen inaccurate or did he serve this penalty by going to the end of the longest line (where he already was) BEFORE the restart? 169. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 20 laps into a run and the tire tread looks like spaghetti??? 170. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Thanks a lot Goodyear. 171. Stewart14rocks posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:03 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) This is a dream come true for Brian France with his favorite words restarts and cautions. 172. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And of course its Jr who is the next to blow. 173. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) BRIAN SCOTT is NINTH. Great run so far. 174. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Oh yeah I forgot about his whole Kurt Busch thing in 2011. But for the most part Jimmie is usually one of the cleanest drivers out there, same with Junior. 175. David posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Even though it wasn't Junior's fault, I'd like to think this is what NASCAR fandom deserves after their deplorable behavior recently. Tony Stewart spins through the infield grass. 176. dennyfan11 posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) AND NOW STEWART WRECKS! 177. Anonymous posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If I had a nickel for every time Brian France... *content not suitable for children*... today, I'd be freaking rich. 178. MAR posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) At this rate we could see a BK car get a top 10. 179. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I don't know Schroeder, the two Michigan races were pretty awful. 180. TS1420 posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) How long before NASCAR stupidly decides to turn this into the "2008 Brickyard 400: Part II" and throws a caution every 10 laps? 181. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) BREAKING NEWS: Brian France has just announced this is the new official tire combination for the 2016 season. Look at the potential it has to create more restarts and excitement! Kidding aside, this is just...sad. Been a while since I've seen a race in which the tires had zero durability... Stewart spins out through the grass (not a tire problem, he just got loose) and already we're under the fourth caution. 182. RWR posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) A good advert for Goodyear. 183. Stewart14rocks posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Already know the top 5 Matt dibendetto jj yely Jeb Burton Ryan preece Cole whitt 184. David posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Schroeder, congratulations. Your dismal prophecy in post #120 is coming true. 185. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "This is a dream come true for Brian France with his favorite words restarts and cautions." Don't forget drama. Who will have a tire explode while going 200 mph and fear for their lives. The drama of the Chase!!! (swallows own bile) 186. Stewart14rocks posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Brian France must be creaming in his pants right now with all this drama 187. TS1420 posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:09 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "I don't know Schroeder, the two Michigan races were pretty awful." The first one was pretty decent barring the almost non-stop plague of rain delays. The second one though, that was hands down the worst race I've ever seen at Michigan in person and that's impressive considering ARCA has put on some serious stinkers there. 188. murb posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) A Goodyear in-race interview is never a good sign. 189. dennyfan11 posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This is the third straight race that has made me angry. This is not good. 190. dennyfan11 posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Brad Keselowski and Kyle Busch lead to the green. 191. TS1420 posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:11 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Of course Goodyear on cue blaming everybody and everything but themselves. 192. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Four cautions in the first 50 laps...This is already looking like a record-breaking day, and NOT in a good way. 193. MAR posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) I been over Goodyear years ago time to go to Hoosier 194. dennyfan11 posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kevin Harvick is back in the top 10. 195. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I feel bad for Big Mac right now, he's at the race having to watch this in person. 196. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Stewart has been retired from the race, apparently. 197. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:15 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Firestone, not Hoosier. Hoosier's too small a company to do much better, and I honestly want a duopoly with multiple tire manufacturers, not a monopoly. 198. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:15 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Time to go to Hoosier" Because that worked out great last time. 199. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Tony probably just said "screw it" and is on his way back to Charlotte as we speak. 200. Howard Salwasser posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Firestone? Please, give me Continental or Michelin. 201. Anonymous posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) There is a huge party happening in Daytona Beach right now. Brian France is... 202. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Longest green flag of the race so far. Now that's just sad... 203. Anonymous posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Howard, Hoosier makes Continental's racing tires. 204. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Damn, still under green? 205. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I really don't understand why Logano is even going back on the track... 206. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Logano rejoins the race, 63 laps behind. Blaney is also out of the race as well. 207. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'd be fine with Michelin too. I'm just sick of the Goodyear monopoly. 208. racefangurl posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ricky and Danica are together. Maybe he does run like he does to be close to her. 209. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Go Larson 210. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:23 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) 25 laps without any tire problems? It's a miracle. 211. Howard Salwasser posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 203: I never knew that. Well in that case, Pirelli? 212. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) "Even though it wasn't Junior's fault, I'd like to think this is what NASCAR fandom deserves after their deplorable behavior recently." So because fans of all the drivers have been acting badly, Junior deserves to be punished? Okay... 213. racefangurl posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 205, points reasons maybe. He could pass, position-wise, those that DNF, like Stewart and Ryan B. 214. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Is this the first time Ryan Preece has ever driven on a high-speed superspeedway in any series? 215. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) He had an Xfinity start at Homestead, so no. 216. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "205, points reasons maybe. He could pass, position-wise, those that DNF, like Stewart and Ryan B." Okay, I suppose a couple points might matter if he misses the chase and maybe he could go from 8th to 7th or whatever, but I still find it a little silly. 217. Greg22 posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Also, Logano hasn't had a DNF all year. 218. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Didn't he just DNF at Martinsville? 219. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) No, he finished. Wow, I just watched that and I totally forgot he came back on the track. 220. David posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) "So because fans of all the drivers have been acting badly, Junior deserves to be punished? Okay..." No...because a great majority of the fans practically worship Junior, and many of the same fans are the ones who have cheered Logano's misfortune, it's quite funny that their idol would have a problem. Not because he deserved it himself. 221. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Brian Scott is up in the top 10. Great run for him. 40 straight laps of green flag racing. Have the tire problems finally sorted themselves out? Sure HOPE so... 222. racefangurl posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Maybe Harvick will have an issue at Phoenix. I try to not wish anyone ill, but I don't think he deserves to advance. Some driver that hates him could spin him out. 223. Lucstar88 posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Caution out for the 42 having tire issues. 224. David posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Larson is the latest Goodyear victim. 225. Lucstar88 posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Left Rear tire. 226. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ...or not. Well, they DID go longer this time than any time previously... 227. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Seems like the fastest teams are being more aggressive with their setups, considering Harvick, Logano, Larson, Junior, Stewart (no he hasn't been fast but the team is). So which of the top teams has the most conservative setup? That'll probably determine this race. 228. dennyfan11 posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And now Kyle Larson blows a tire! 229. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Man, Gordon should be REALLY thankful he already cleared his way to the Championship round last week. This REALLY isn't the sort of race you want to have trying to fight your way into the last round, is it? 230. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Maybe Harvick will have an issue at Phoenix. I try to not wish anyone ill, but I don't think he deserves to advance. Some driver that hates him could spin him out." You're OBVIOUSLY not trying to imply anything about Evor-Tray Ayne-Bay? 231. racefangurl posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Two out of three ain't bad. Refers to a couple Roush drivers actually in the top-20. The third is close, though. I mean, they're all top-25. 232. racefangurl posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 230, Trevor's on probation, so I don't think he would. I mean, like Kyle Busch or somebody. 233. dennyfan11 posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Brad and KB lead to the green. 234. Trevorbaynesucks posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Erik Jones running top 19 amazing run 235. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 227- And so far that team looks like JGR. 236. racefangurl posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) 234, your username reminds me of a web forum I hate. And the guy you say "sucks" finished 17th in his first 3 Cup races at Texas. Roush is what sucks these days. 237. RaceFanX posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This is modified champ Ryan Preece's third Cup start but his first on a high-banked superspeedway unlike anything he runs in the lower series. He doesn't have a car under him for a great finish but nice to see him out there getting a chance and keeping his nose clean. 238. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:49 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) racefangurl still convinced that there's nothing wrong with her hero Bayne at all, it's just his terrible equipment. Put him in the #24 and he'd be the next Joey Logano... Seriously, I have nothing against Bayne but the constant excuses for his lack of performance is getting old. Yeah, I think the equipment is PART of the problem, but you seriously don't think the DRIVER has anything to do with it...? 239. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well seems like the tire issues have died down... *knock on wood* 240. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The Sandman is running second. Yay... 241. David posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:51 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "And the guy you say "sucks" finished 17th in his first 3 Cup races at Texas. Roush is what sucks these days." Yes, folks. This was actually deployed as an argument in Trevor Bayne's favor. 242. Anonymous posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Well seems like the tire issues have died down" I see what you did there! 243. BMan0213 posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sounds like Bowyer might have a vibration 244. Howard Salwasser posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Das Jotas! 245. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I see the weekly Trevor Bayne excuses show has begun. 246. racefangurl posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 238, would he be running with his teammates if he was part of the problem? He and Ricky are only one position apart and Greg Biffle's just a few spots ahead of them. He may have chemistry issues with his crew chief, though. 247. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:55 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) It's cute the #5 team thinks they're running well enough to be able to help the #24... 248. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Stenhouse isn't good either and Biffle is older than Gordon and Stewart and therefore probably washed up. 249. A Dead Horse posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:56 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) OW! OW! OW! Racefangurl you can stop now!!! 250. Anonymous posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I don't think Alex Bowman has ever had that much screen time before. 251. numbah10hatah's Danica Patrick horse posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It's been a long time since I've gotten it from my old friend, although the rest of you people are just as bad to me! 252. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:57 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) ^Yet Stenhouse and Biffle are both significantly ahead of him in points, and have generally outrun him all year long (well, except for all those times Stenhouse has crashed). Seriously, I REALLY want to respect racefangurl's admiration and dedication for her driver, but by now it looks like she's desperately coming up for reasons to explain why he's an excellent driver stuck in terrible equipment. I honestly see...no more than a Jamie McMurray-type career at best out of him, definitely NOT the next Logano. 253. racefangurl posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 241, 17th isn't bad for a rookie at Texas. There was an article that said "...17th, which is great for a rookie". 254. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yeah, right now we have more good cars than good drivers so what are the odds somebody who was really good was in bad equipment? Besides Bowyer next year I guess... 255. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 3:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Erik Jones and Brian Scott have much less Cup experience and they're both in the top ten... Yes, in better cars. 256. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick up to second and Junior to fourth on this run. 257. dennyfan11 posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And now Ryan Newman wrecks. 258. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Newman the latest with a tire ish-shoe 259. Ryan W posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Bring back Hoosier! 260. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:01 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Seriously we need to make a master list of racefangurl excuses for Trevor Bayne. Here's for starters: - Roush equipment sucks - Bad chemistry with his crew chief - He has MS - He's a rookie - He won a Daytona 500 261. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Tire problem again, this time, Newman has a left-rear down. 262. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It really seems to be random which tire failures they are throwing cautions for and which they are not. 263. Lucstar88 posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Newman flat left rear. Also Dale is back in 3rd!!! What a car! 264. BMan0213 posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:01 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "241, 17th isn't bad for a rookie at Texas. There was an article that said "...17th, which is great for a rookie"." Sorry one good race doesnt mean crap. Jr had like a 3rd place finish at the Glen back in the day. That doesn't mean he's good on the road courses. 265. RaceFanX posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Newman blows a left rear tire and pits to have it changed, he's got a little damage to the rear quarter panel but no yellow and he's back out. 266. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) "- He won a Daytona 500" So you KNOW he can't be a mediocre driver! How could someone win the premier event of the sport so early on in their career and be a mediocre driver... ...wait, never mind, Derrike Cope also won a Daytona 500... 267. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:02 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Rusty Wallace finished 2nd on his Cup debut in 1980. Now that is GREAT for a rookie... 268. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:03 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) NBC's points graphic just showed Kenseth in the 17 car. WUT? 269. Lucstar88 posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Debris from the Newman tire. 270. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:04 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Tire debris caution (almost certainly from Newman's car). Surprised they waited so long to throw that one... Bayne gets the free pass, much to the joy of a certain user... 271. Ryan W posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Tbh, I don't think Hoosier is the answer, but another tire company providing competition with Goodyear would be good, but Nascar has been really dedicated to Goodyear and wouldn't have any of it. 272. RaceFanX posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) NBC just put up the points standings for drivers eliminated from the chase with Matt Kenseth being listed by mistake as still driving Roush Racing's #17. It's probably a glitch but it is a nice throwback. And now the debris from Newman's tire brings out the yellow. 273. MAR posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) So we're back to the Trevor Bayne bashing 274. Anonymous posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Meanwhile, Jeff Gordon is busily picking his ass since he has no reason to go for the win this week or next week... 275. RaceFanX posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:06 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Rusty Wallace finished 2nd on his Cup debut in 1980." Weirdly driving a part-time car owned by Roger Penske, who Rusty later returned to for a lot of success in the 1990s and early 2000s. 276. jabber1990 posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I believe it was Moody who said that there is a reason the Tire Wars ended not sure what that means but I guess that's why we have a monopoly 277. racefangurl posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 250, Alex Bowman is part of the Terrible Equipment Brigade and not worthy of being shown. At least the TV folks feel he's unworthy of being shown. If I had access to NBC, say we had a roof antenna, I'd know why he's getting this screen time. What happened? 278. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:06 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) ^I'm not bashing Bayne; I'm just getting REALLY sick of people blaming EVERYTHING for his struggles but himself. Like I've said before...maybe it would be better if he DIDN'T win the 500 in just his second career Cup start. He wouldn't have had all the hype and all those expectations heaped upon him in that case... 279. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:08 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "I believe it was Moody who said that there is a reason the Tire Wars ended" Neil Bonnett and Rodney Orr died in 1994 and Ernie Irvan had a near-fatal injury due to tire failures (Irvan was Goodyear and both Bonnett and Orr were Hoosier). And then in the previous tire war of 1988-89 Bobby Allison, Buddy Baker, and a couple others had career-ending or near-career-ending injuries. No, I get it. I just don't buy that in this much safer environment that a tire war would be as dangerous as it has in the past. I recommended Firestone because they ran Goodyear out of IndyCar (on both sides of the split) and Bridgestone ran Goodyear out of Formula One, and haven't had the same kind of tire failures that Goodyear has had in Cup, but I'll admit that since the cars are lighter, it might be easier to not have those sort of tire failures. 280. BMan0213 posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:08 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Also Baynes 500 win was probably the worst 500 in recent memory. Half the field was in a wreck like 30 laps in, and the race set the record for most yellows in a 500. On top of that you had the new tandem draft where they did it for the whole which was different from what they did in 09 and 10. You also have Ragan's move on the next to last restart that gave Bayne the lead. I don't want to go as far as saying the win was a fluke, But Trevor had everything fall into his lap that day. 281. David posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Like I've said before...maybe it would be better if he DIDN'T win the 500 in just his second career Cup start. He wouldn't have had all the hype and all those expectations heaped upon him in that case..." Perhaps Gilliland should have won that race. He was close, and he had the previous record to show that it wouldn't have been a sign of things to come. 282. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:09 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Also, I just don't think Goodyear's track record has been consistent enough (way too many tire failures) to justify having a monopoly, as opposed to say when Honda had a monopoly in IndyCar and never had an engine failure... 283. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jr kisses the wall at start/finish 284. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Junior smacks the wall coming off turn 4. 285. MAR posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:11 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Trevor's hype died a long time ago me and racefangurl just like Bayne that's it. I admit his season sucks but he is not finished not everyone sets the world on fire as a rookie. 286. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Junior's spoiler is bent and his car is dropping back quickly due to ill handling as a result. 287. jabber1990 posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:12 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) "Also Baynes 500 win was probably the worst 500 in recent memory" am I the only one who actually liked that race? 288. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I like Bayne too and didn't think I was bashing him really. Just debating. I don't think Bayne would be up to the standards of belonging in a 2002 or 2003 caliber field, but in these much weaker fields, he probably is deserving enough. And it's not like I've seen many drivers in Xfinity or trucks lately as having the potential for monster talent. Erik Jones and Ryan Blaney are really the only ones... 289. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:15 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Allmendinger having a nice top 10 run as we are nearly at the halfway point...after what feels like an eternity. 290. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) PIT JR 291. RWR posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Also Baynes 500 win was probably the worst 500 in recent memory" Wow, top20 for our friend Steven Wallace and the last top15 for Robbie Gordon, i not consider this race as "bad", haha 292. MAR posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:17 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I defend all my drivers Jr, Ky Busch, Logano, Cassill and Bayne 293. Lucstar88 posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Junior spins. f**k Greg Ives, why did they leave him. 294. RWR posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yellow flag 295. BMan0213 posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "am I the only one who actually liked that race?" Sorry but the tandem draft turned that race into a demolition derby. 16 yellows in a plate race is insane. From a competition standpoint that was honestly the worst 500 I remember watching, and no that's not because of who won 296. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:18 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) 2013 was the recent Daytona 500 that sucked the most. There were barely any positions swaps in the top five for most of the race. I tend to hate almost all plate races by default, so I'm not gonna say I liked the 2011 Daytona 500, but it wasn't the worst. It at least was weird, but weird does not necessarily mean good. 297. racefangurl posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 285, you, DB and me. DB may not come here that much, but we're tweeps. I guess fans have to just think whatever they want and someday the truth will come out (this applies across the board). People thought Joey wasn't good in 2012, but he's silenced his critics. I once had to admit I was wrong (pie attitude, hint, hint), so I know. 298. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And Junior's misfortune gets even worse as he spins out in turn 4 and brings out caution #7 at the halfway point. 299. dennyfan11 posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) and Jr spins again. 300. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Here come the conspiracy theorists saying Jr spun on purpose. 301. racefangurl posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Some of his critics anyway. 302. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:21 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "tweeps" ...is that seriously what Bayne fans call themselves now? Are you for real? I thought it was "Bayneiacs"...eh, either nickname sounds REALLY goofy. 303. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) "Here come the conspiracy theorists saying Jr spun on purpose." You're reading NASCAR.com comments, aren't you? Best to stay away from those if you want to avoid brain rot... 304. BMan0213 posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Wow, top20 for our friend Steven Wallace and the last top15 for Robbie Gordon, i not consider this race as "bad", haha" I don't think underdog drivers getting a good finish makes a race good, but if that's what you think well ok then. 305. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Nobody is gonna say Junior spun on purpose with as many tire failures as there have been. What IS weird is that this seems to be striking only the fast cars (except Brad and JGR), not randomly throughout the field, which does make me think it's an issue of the premier teams having too aggressive setups. 306. jabber1990 posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "the 2011 Daytona 500, but it wasn't the worst. It at least was weird" the weirdest race was the 2012 Daytona 500. everything went wrong that race but we're getting off-topic 307. BMan0213 posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Here come the conspiracy theorists saying Jr spun on purpose." Wouldn't shock me he's pretty good at it lol. If he didn't feel like bragging about his skill on the radio he would have gotten away with it at Bristol in 04 haha. 308. racefangurl posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 302, tweeps is Twitter friends. It means I follow DB there. 296, I thought the 2011 was a weird race, too. 309. Sam Wilson :) posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) go kyle busch, i don't know why people are hating joey but loving matt 310. RaceFanX posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Larson's #42 Target Chevrolet has a weird red with white pinstripes paint job on his car today. Is it just me or does that car look pink when you see it from a distance? 311. RWR posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Bayneiacs" Unknown word, sorry. But a "Rickwariac" Okay! 312. Anonymous posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Wow, top20 for our friend Steven Wallace and the last top15 for Robbie Gordon, i not consider this race as "bad", haha" I liked the 2011 race as well. Robby finished 16th by the way. Terry Labonte was 15th. 313. murb posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Kyle Larson's #42 Target Chevrolet has a weird red with white pinstripes paint job on his car today. Is it just me or does that car look pink when you see it from a distance?" They have some deal with Target where they are running a plaid paint scheme for the entire Chase. 314. C posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Larson will win 315. Sam Wilson :) posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) can somebody explain why people are hating joey but loving matt 316. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yeah the 2011 Daytona 500 was pretty bad IMO but I'm kind of biased since I hated the tandem draft. 317. C posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I don't let personal bias get in the way I'm a Kahne fan, but I know he has stunk this year and will be the first to say it. 318. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) "i don't know why people are hating joey but loving matt" Hasn't it already been explained? Joey Logano is, in most fans' eyes, the poster boy of the Evil Empire of the Silver Spoons, and thus, is someone to be reviled. Therefore, Matt wrecking him makes him a hero for standing up to the Empire...Which is completely silly. Yeah, I hate how money and connections can keep minimally talented drivers in the sport for longer periods of time than they really deserve, but is it REALLY such a bad thing to actually have money? Larson is back in the top 10 after his tire problems earlier. 319. MAR posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:33 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) The 2011 Daytona 500 wasn't bad and I'm not being bias it was wild and unpredictable I like races like that. 320. MAR posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The 2011 Daytona 500 wasn't bad and I'm not being bias it was wild and unpredictable I like races like that. 321. Sam Wilson :) posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 318, why is he known as that, he's a good talented race car driver with a big future still ahead of him 322. racefangurl posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 296, I thought the 2011 Daytona 500 was a weird race, too. Fixed 323. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think geography is also being overlooked in the Kenseth/Logano thing. Joey Logano is the first Cup superstar from New England, and how do most southerners feel about New England generally/stereotypically? Yes, Matt Kenseth is also from the north (Wisconsin) but Wisconsin along with most of the rust belt is considered more gritty and blue-collar due to lost factory jobs and so on, while New England is considered snooty since it remains a relatively rich region of the country throughout... Obviously people should not be judged by where they grew up, but many people do it regardless. How much of Geoff Bodine's hate back then came from him being from New York of all places? 324. C posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) They should out a feature on here where you can see stuff like the most points in the last ZANU,ber of races it would be interesting to see where Stenhosue would be in points for the last 10 races 325. Lucstar88 posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Speaking of Bayne. Right Rear went. 326. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bayne's right rear is completely gone. Tire, quarter panel, and all. 327. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Trevor Bayne blows a right rear and brings out caution #8. A brake line was ripped out of the #6 when the tire exploded. 328. Sam Wilson :) posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) sean, i lived in vermont for 6 years, i live in syracuse now, wtf is this about regions 329. racefangurl posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 324, speaking of Stehnhouse, he needs to slow down, lol. He's ahead of Danica. 330. Sam Wilson :) posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) the only problem i have ever seen with logan is the 2013 auto club 400, but even then denny was racing him just as hard, the only driver i don't like is Matt Kenseth, ad Clint Bowyer 331. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "sean, i lived in vermont for 6 years, i live in syracuse now, wtf is this about regions" I also live in Syracuse. NASCAR fans historically often were biased against drivers who did not grow up in the southeast unless they believed they were in some way blue-collar. I agree it is stupid, but I think it still exists and likely is part of the Logano hate seen last week and this year. Could be a red state/blue state thing too... As if everyone in Connecticut is a liberal and everyone in Texas and Virginia are conservatives, which is far from the case. 332. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 324- They do have that, you can see the best drivers over the last however many races and at any particular track. What is ZANU? 333. C posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @329 isn't it suspicious how their always best to each other in points? 334. Tide1032 posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Erik Jones can be the first to win in his first two races in his career for the sprint cup since 2011 with Trevor Bayne at Daytona, should he win, the points will be given to Matt Kenseth. 335. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Caution for You-Know-Who. 336. Anonymous posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Everyone person I know who is on Logano's side fits the definition of Southern conservative. 337. The Long Shot posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) "How much of Geoff Bodine's hate back then came from him being from New York of all places?" This brings back memories of DSFF constantly referring to Geoff Bodine as "that damn Yankee bastard". 338. C posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @332 no can you see the points standings for like the 5 races 339. Anonymous posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Erik Jones can be the first to win in his first two races in his career for the sprint cup since 2011 with Trevor Bayne at Daytona, should he win, the points will be given to Matt Kenseth. " What? Hell no! Matt didn't start the race. 340. Sam Wilson :) posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) sean, i still don't get it, kyle busch is from the south and a good driver but he still gets hate, he's my favorite 341. OldSchoolNascarDude1 posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If the driver and team of the 42 can keep cool, I think they'll win today. 342. jabber1990 posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) can teams sell their tires to their teammates? since Logano is 60+ laps down can he just give his 1 or 2 spares to Brad? 343. Anonymous posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "sean, i still don't get it, kyle busch is from the south and a good driver but he still gets hate, he's my favorite " Holy crap... he's from the South all right... Southern NEVADA!!!! 344. C posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm against Logano and im a southern conservative? 345. Trevorbaynesucks posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @340 he's frmy vegas 346. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Everyone person I know who is on Logano's side fits the definition of Southern conservative." Really? I know a frequent NASCAR Twitter user who is a liberal from Michigan who is fiercely on the Logano side, so you are wrong. Almost anything that is mainstream popular has a much wider demographic base than the stereotypes... 347. Sam Wilson :) posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) thats the south vegas is more south than it is north, south of the middle, SOUTH 348. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Kyle Busch is from Nevada, which the southeast would not consider the south, and the Busch brothers are also considered silver spoon because of the opportunities they got at a young age that other drivers did not get (especially when their parents lied about their ages so they could start their racing careers sooner). Sam, I AGREE with you that all of this is stupid but I'm trying to understand where the Martinsville crowd is coming from, and I thought the Martinsville crowd was very stupid. 349. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Here we go, Truex to 2nd. Let's see if someone can end the Keselowski parade. 350. C posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @346 A liberal nascsr fan that's new. 351. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:47 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) "kyle busch is from the south" When exactly did Nevada start being considered part of the South? When most people say "the South", they mean Southeastern America, not the ENTIRETY of the southern part of the US... "Everyone person I know who is on Logano's side fits the definition of Southern conservative." ...Really! How about you provide some proof to back up that claim? 352. Alex posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) " Really? I know a frequent NASCAR Twitter user who is a liberal from Michigan who is fiercely on the Logano side, so you are wrong. Almost anything that is mainstream popular has a much wider demographic base than the stereotypes... " Wow? So ONE person on Twitter from Michigan defines the entire argument? I know of about 250 Storm-Trumpers who are on Logano's side. 353. Sam Wilson :) posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) well i will say that i was cheering in martinsville, because it was old fashioned old school payback, but it was in the moment, after the race i realized how dumb matt kenseth was. 354. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Really? I know a frequent NASCAR Twitter user who is a liberal from Michigan who is fiercely on the Logano side, so you are wrong." Brad Keselowski? 355. Chives5150 posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Everyone person I know who is on Logano's side fits the definition of Southern conservative." Yes, let's just throw some political views into this! That's always been a good idea! 356. C posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I don't Keselowski is a liberal. Are there any liberal drivers? 357. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "A liberal nascsr fan that's new." Surprisingly, there are more liberal NASCAR fans than you'd think. I myself am a Southerner who considers themselves more liberal in their views than conservative (actually, I'm pretty close to being apolitical as I have very little faith in politics in general, but that's neither here nor there, really don't want to start a political debate as those ALWAYS get ugly in a hurry). 358. MAR posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Everybody in the race today is a silver spooner end of discussion 359. BMan0213 posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @334 No the points would not be given to Kenseth. The 20 car would get the owners points but that's it. No driver points would be given out. 360. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) From what I've seen on message boards, it seems like about 2/3-3/4 of NASCAR fans are conservative. It skews conservative, but it's never been remotely 100%. These are the kind of ridiculous stereotypes that cause everybody to be alienated from each other. If you don't follow everything in lockstep, you're not a 'real' member of the community, and I see this kind of thinking everywhere in stereotypically liberal, conservative, and libertarian groups, and it's cute that members of all these political affiliations think only the other two engage in groupthink... I am sorry for bringing this up, but I DO think a lot of this explains the reaction to Logano. A lot of Southern fans will think Logano = Connecticut = blue state = evil, and I really do think that. It disgusts me that anybody would be that thoughtless, but whatever... 361. murb posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I don't think the geography has anything to do with it (MAYBE with some of the old timer fans it does, but for the new generation, I doubt it). People hate Logano for the same reasons people started hating Gordon around 1994 or 1995. He's starting to win A LOT, he's young, and they know he's gonna be around winning A LOT for a long time. And yeah, the silver spoon thing is probably part of it too I guess. But I don't think him being a "Northerner" matters that much, if at all. 362. The Long Shot posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:51 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Everyone person I know who is on Logano's side fits the definition of Southern conservative." Lol. For being maybe the biggest Logano defender on this site, I'm about as centered in the Great White North as one can be, and certainly not conservative. Willing to bet that the JOONYER NATION members who cheered Kenseth/booed Logano after these past two races would fit that description to a tee. 363. Alex posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Surprisingly, there are more liberal NASCAR fans than you'd think. I myself am a Southerner who considers themselves more liberal in their views than conservative (actually, I'm pretty close to being apolitical as I have very little faith in politics in general, but that's neither here nor there, really don't want to start a political debate as those ALWAYS get ugly in a hurry). " Sean was the one suggesting that it was all politically motivated... This is about the facts, and the facts say that idiots are evenly distributed amongst all populaces. 364. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm pretty moderate myself but in all honesty I really just can't stand politics, so lets just try to keep this civil okay? 365. Sam Wilson :) posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) its not about the region its about the driving, basically you guys are saying is if it were earnhardt from new hampshire you wouldn't like him, is this what your saying, if logan was from north carolina you guys would be all over him 366. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I was primarily suggesting it was REGIONALLY motivated because a stereotypical NASCAR fan in the southeast (which the Martinsville crowd would largely consist of) would hate anything related to New England. How much of Gordon's hate back then was because he was from California? Quite a bit as I recall. 367. Alex posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) The Long Shot hit the nail on the head: it's the silver spoon. People hate the Dillon boys too, but they've somewhat earned it... 368. Alex posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "its not about the region its about the driving, basically you guys are saying is if it were earnhardt from new hampshire you wouldn't like him, is this what your saying, if logan was from north carolina you guys would be all over him " Yes, that'd be about it. 369. Sam Wilson :) posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:54 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) OK CAN WE STOP TALKING ABOUT REGIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 370. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:54 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Here's an idea everyone. Let's talk about RACING! 371. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm not talking about us. I'm talking about idiots in the Martinsville crowd. Yes, I think Logano would get away with more from the fans if he was from a region that was considered more blue-collar, and had a family that was considered more blue-collar in general. But I do believe Alex won the argument. I'm sorry for this tangent, I really didn't think it would be that explosive. 372. C posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yeah I know I don't eant to discuss piltics right noe, but I'm about as far southern and as far conservative as you can go and I cheered when Kenseth wrecked him and I'm still happy he did 373. The Long Shot posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I am sorry for bringing this up, but I DO think a lot of this explains the reaction to Logano. A lot of Southern fans will think Logano = Connecticut = blue state = evil, and I really do think that." "People hate Logano for the same reasons people started hating Gordon around 1994 or 1995. He's starting to win A LOT, he's young, and they know he's gonna be around winning A LOT for a long time." I think you're both right. murb hit the crux of the debate with the Gordon comparison, and Sean explained why the fans would be more likely to root against Logano's current/future success rather than support it. 374. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Here's an idea everyone. Let's talk about RACING! OK. The 2016 aero package can't come soon enough. 375. Zackary Shawn posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Logano has won 14 races. People should have stopped whining about the "silver spoon" about 8 wins ago. What do Logano's mom and dad do for a living anyway? 376. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick up to second on this run. Meanwhile, Keselowski has pretty much utterly dominated the race today. Harvick's pretty much been the only one who passed him on track for the lead. 377. Alex posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:58 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) This race sucks. No, I'm not watching it in anyway except through these comments. 378. Sam Wilson :) posted: 11.08.2015 - 4:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) i want a legit reason of what logano ever did wrong, name one race where he did something wrong, if you say 2015 Hollywood Casino 400 i will say thats racing for a win thats his job, thats what he's supposed to do, same i will say for the 2013 Auto Club 400, so a race besides those, what race and what did he do wrong 379. RaceFanX posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Brad Keselowski and his #2 Ford are on a rail today. The Pride of Rochester Hills has led more than 200 laps today and hasn't faced many challenges yet. 380. Zackary Shawn posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I am sorry for bringing this up, but I DO think a lot of this explains the reaction to Logano. A lot of Southern fans will think Logano = Connecticut = blue state = evil, and I really do think that." As someone who is a "Southern conservative," I think there is a lot of truth to this. Personally, I like Logano. It will get boring pretty quickly if he starts winning at Jimmie Johnson levels, though. 381. C posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I know I've brought up politics in the past and how i support Rand a Paul and Ted Cruz, but can we please just talk about the race or something involving racing! 382. Sam Wilson :) posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 373 earnhardt won a lot 383. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:00 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) He punted Peyton Sellers to win the All-Star Showdown in either 2008 or 2009 and got disqualified. He bump-and-ran the driver who discovered him at Pocono, Mark Martin, in 2012 preventing Martin from becoming the oldest winner ever. That's about all I can really think of off-hand though. 384. Zackary Shawn posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Speaking of Jimmie Johnson, this may end up being his worst year ever. He was 14th in points coming in. 385. racefangurl posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 362, I'm a Logano fan in NYS, so that's a couple ways we're alike. 386. C posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think It's a bit weird how none of the back markers have had tire issues 387. Sam Wilson :) posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) in pocono 2012 martin ran out of gas, or was that 2013 michigan race, i think it was both 388. Zackary Shawn posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Also, you know who else was born with a "silver spoon?" Dale Earnhardt Jr. Having a southern accent and being perceived as "blue collar" doesn't change that fact. 389. RaceFanX posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:03 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) The Man from the Mitten is cooking up front. 390. Lucstar88 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Dale is back in 10th O_O 391. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "i want a legit reason of what logano ever did wrong" In most fans' eyes, here's what Logano has done wrong: A. Win a lot of races recently, which instantly makes you a polarizing figure in the NASCAR fanbase B. Come from a well-to-do family which easily paved the way to his making it into Cup; again, in many NASCAR fans' eyes, this is EXACTLY what is wrong with NASCAR Silly yes, but reasons like these are undoubtedly why Jeff Gordon was so reviled early in his career. Makes me wonder, will Joey be held in as high a regard and respected by most when his career is wrapping up? We'll just have to wait and see...considering he's just 25; he could easily be in NASCAR for another 20 years, so it's gonna be quite a while. 392. Zackary Shawn posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:04 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) It's crazy to me that Martin Truex Jr. still has a legitimate chance to win the championship. 393. TS1420 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) While Bad Brad has run away and hid from the field most of the race, at least there has been some good racing throughout the field. Still the 2016 package can't come fast enough. 394. C posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Who do you yall think is driving the 9 next year? 395. Alex posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:06 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) "I think It's a bit weird how none of the back markers have had tire issues " That's cause they're so damned slow LOL 396. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) MOST driver hate comes from irrational reasons (at least hypocritically defending certain drivers for things you would attack others for). I'm a glass half empty guy so I tend to dislike most drivers, but at least that's more rational than liking some drivers who do the same obnoxious things drivers I dislike also do. Since I think almost all NASCAR drivers are obnoxious, I tend to judge the obnoxious drivers based on whether an obnoxious driver is at least honest about their obnoxiousness (Kyle Busch, Joey Logano) or pretending to be a "family man" (Dale Jarrett, Matt Kenseth). 397. murb posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "How much of Gordon's hate back then was because he was from California? Quite a bit as I recall." I guess, but I also think about who the most popular drivers in the sport are today. Gordon, Californian-ness aside, is extremely popular now and has been for the probably over ten years now. Johnson and Harvick are also from California (like them or not, they still have a crap load of fans - though for Harvick I'm fairly sure a big part of that is still only because he replaced Earnhardt), Kahne is from Washington (another quite Liberal area), Larson is from California, the Buschs are from Vegas, Truex is from New Jersey, Stewart, Edwards, Keselowski, and Kenseth are all from the mid-west, etc. I don't know. Like I said, it probably is true to some of the old timer Southerners who have watched since the 70s or 80s, but to the current 18-35 group that (I would assume) makes up the majority of the fan base now, I don't know if it really matters all that much. 398. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) New ish-shoe for Harvick. The car won't stay in 4th gear. 399. RaceFanX posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:07 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Anyone else find it very ironic we've got a Logano/Kenseth rivalry right now given those two are literally the only drivers that Mark Martin ever asked Jack Roush to hire. Martin knew talent when he saw it, kind of surprised no one has pursued his current protege Jared Landers for a NASCAR shot yet but I think Landers is happy sticking to dirt track racing. 400. Sam Wilson :) posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 383, in 2012 poco he moved martin out of the way thats racing, in 2009 showdown hornish won and logan did nothing, peyton sellers wasn't in that race 401. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:08 pm Rate this comment: (3) (1) "i want a legit reason of what logano ever did wrong, name one race where he did something wrong, if you say 2015 Hollywood Casino 400 i will say thats racing for a win thats his job, thats what he's supposed to do, same i will say for the 2013 Auto Club 400, so a race besides those, what race and what did he do wrong" 2010 Pocono- cried like a baby when he and Harvick were in a racing incident and claimed that Harvick's wife wore the firesuit in the family while his dad at that exact moment was trying to get at Harvick 2012 Dover Nationwide- punted a lapped car into the inside wall 2012 Pocono- punted Mark Martin (the guy who discovered him!) for the win, would've been Mark's last win 2013 Auto Club- wrecked Hamlin on the last lap and broke his back 2015 interview following Daytona 500- told reporters that his Daytona 500 trophy was more important than his wedding ring 2015 Kansas- wrecked Matt Kenseth out of the lead for the win Plus he's a regular Buschwhacker. Is that enough for you? 402. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Who do you yall think is driving the 9 next year?" I'm gonna guess David Ragan. Personally, I HOPE not considering how this year, he's not really shown a lot in his two opportunities at driving better equipment (the #18 and the #55)...I doubt he would do a whole lot better than Hornish. 403. C posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Whst happened to Larson 404. RaceFanX posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kevin Harvick is driving the Budweiser #4 one handed! He's got his left hand on the wheel and his right hand on the shifter keeping it in gear...and he's making it work still running in second! 405. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The silver-spoon stuff can be stupid. There's that quote in "Days of Thunder" where whoever was whining about IndyCar at the time because anybody with the last name Andretti or Unser could instantly make it while other drivers were supposedly frozen out. I agree there were a lot of Andrettis and Unsers around in the early '90s in IndyCar, and some of them weren't talented. However, Mario Andretti, Michael Andretti, Al Unser, Bobby Unser, and Al Unser, Jr. all deserved the premier rides they had. Jeff Andretti, Robby Unser, and Johnny Unser did not deserve premier rides and never had any. John Andretti actually deserved a premier ride in either IndyCar or Cup I think but never got one, so yes, this silver spoon hate can be irrational, especially since I think practically everybody in NASCAR today had to at least be pretty well-off to make it. In the generations preceding Gordon, there was not nearly as much of that, but the current drivers all came up when NASCAR was mainstream. 406. Alex posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "2009 showdown hornish won and logan did nothing, peyton sellers wasn't in that race Toyota All-Star Showdown, you big lummox 407. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bowman has gone to the garage. Green flag pit stops for the first time today as we're in the midst of the longest green flag run all race. Looks like they will have enough tires to make the finish... 408. C posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:11 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Since Allgaier is going to JRM I hope Whitt gets the 9. 409. BMan0213 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:11 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Don't know whats more impressive. Harvick driving one handed or Jr. driving hiss ass off back up to the 8th spot. 410. racefangurl posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 402, I think Landon Cassill, Cole Whitt or perhaps Alex Bowman should get it. It's a step up from their current terrible cars. 411. TS1420 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "The car won't stay in 4th gear." Time for the Official "Wally Dallenbach Bohnjee Cord" to hold it in place. Green flag stops? Holy crap! 412. RaceFanX posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick's crew was working out a solution with bungee cords for the shifter issue. To save time on a green flag stop they've decided not to use it because Happy's doing pretty well as is. We'll see how this goes. 413. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) With all the tires that have gone down today, this round of green flag pit stops are a miracle. 414. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) More problems for Harvick. 415. BluesTravelerFan posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:12 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Joey Logano is a very good, driver, but he is nowhere near on the same level as Jeff Gordon in terms of results. I mean, before this 3 wins in a row stretch he had only 11 wins in basically 7 full seasons, so I get the connection somewhat but that's not the biggest reason for the hate. 416. Chives5150 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Waiting to see Harvick's pit stop. That might be interesting. 417. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:14 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) And his name is LOGANO, not "Logan". If you're defending a guy so much, learn how to spell his name at least. 418. C posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @409 I hope my top 3 drivers in the terrible equipment brigade are 1. Justin Allgaier 2. Cole Whitt 3. Alex Bowman 419. Sam Wilson :) posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) 2012 pocono, that was racing, 2015 kansas that was racing, 2015 daytona thats an opinion, 2013 auto club that was racing it wasn't his fault that denny back broke, 2010 he was mad and has every reason too, i not remember 2012 xfinity dover he probably moved a lapped car so he wouldn't get passed by another car anyone would do that 420. TS1420 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:14 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) "Don't know whats more impressive. Harvick driving one handed or Jr. driving hiss ass off back up to the 8th spot." Tony Stewart driving one handed at Sonoma in 2005 and winning was more impressive. 421. BMan0213 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:14 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) "2013 Auto Club- wrecked Hamlin on the last lap and broke his back" I've said it before don't blame Joey for that. Hamlin inexplicably kept his car in the gas and drove himself into the wall. Had he locked it up like any driver would have he wouldn't have hit the wall near as hard and maybe even not at all. Honesty the only person you should blame for Denny breaking his back is Denny himself. 422. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Even with his gear issues Harvick is catching Brad for the lead. 423. RaceFanX posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Green flag stops cycle through and Special K is back out front. 424. murb posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I thought Jones would run better today. Not that he's been bad (and, let's face it, it's not like I've even been paying close attention to this race, so maybe he's been better than I think), but after the way he qualified I thought he'd be up contending for a top five like he did in the #18 at Kansas. Not that big of a deal though I guess. I still think he's gonna be the first one to win championships in all three series. 425. Chives5150 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) What will Hornish do next year? He was impressive in Nationwide for awhile, but I'm still wondering if he'll be considered damaged goods again. 426. Alex posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:15 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Sam, pass me the bong. 427. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) In this order this is who I hope gets the 9 car: 1. Regan Smith 2. Landon Cassill (won't happen though) 3. Cole Whitt (see Landon Cassill) 4. Hornish gets one more year 5. Chris Buescher (maybe a deal with Roush) 428. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:17 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) "Logan" Joey Logan, LOL. Reminds me of how on one of the Dillon brothers' pages (Austin's, I think), for the first several posts EVERYONE kept misspelling his last name as "Dillion". 429. C posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I hope Hornish goes to the NXS the series could use some veterans 430. Zackary Shawn posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Is it for certain that Hornish won't be in the 9 car again? 431. Paul Nard posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Joey Logan, LOL. Reminds me of how on one of the Dillon brothers' pages (Austin's, I think), for the first several posts EVERYONE kept misspelling his last name as "Dillion"." I guess Vince Welsh likes to visit this website from time-to-time. 432. MAR posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hornish most likely will be back in the #9 433. BMan0213 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Tony Stewart driving one handed at Sonoma in 2005 and winning was more impressive." Not as impressive as him coming from the middle of the pack to finish 3rd at Atlanta in 2011 haha. Sucks the battle between Jimmie and Jeff was so good ESPN never put a Camera on Tony thus not getting any footage of it. 434. C posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @430 nothing is set in stone, however the indication I'm getting is no 435. RaceFanX posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "pass me the bong" Slightly off topic but given its increasingly quasi-legal but controversial status I wonder if NASCAR has a policy against marijuana-related sponsorships yet. Hard liquor was disallowed until the 2000s but adult entertainment materials and anything related to Southern flag imagery/the word "redneck" is still disallowed. 436. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Honestly, Hornish would be better off in a good Xfinity ride. Same for Ragan; I realize that good-quality Xfinity rides may not be available for next year, though. 437. Chives5150 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:20 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Is it for certain that Hornish won't be in the 9 car again?" I like Hornish, and I honestly don't want him to lose his ride. I'm just wondering because no one has really given any thought about what might happen to him. Everyone is more concerned about who will take his ride. 438. Benjamin LordLowe posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hey I'd like to apologize for my irrational & irresponsible comments that I posted on the Texas Busch/Nationwide/Xfinity page the other day I was just giving my 2 cents on what should be done to the cup drivers that compete in NASCAR's 2 lower tier series but my solution was not the most reasonable nor was it all the sane and truth be told I probably should've kept those opinions to myself so if I offended anybody with my remarks yesterday I'm sorry. 439. MAR posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I mean it's November if RPM release him now that would be a low blow to Sam's career. 440. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Slightly off topic but given its increasingly quasi-legal but controversial status I wonder if NASCAR has a policy against marijuana-related sponsorships yet." I can only imagine how controversial a weed sponsorship would be in NASCAR. Me personally, I wouldn't really care too much (they're a sponsor paying the bills, after all), but I can imagine there would definitely be an uproar from some people... 441. Trevorbaynesucks posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) NBC broadcaster compliments chase how am I not suorised 442. RaceFanX posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:21 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "EVERYONE kept misspelling his last name as "Dillion"." That was me. I blew a typo and no one caught it for a couple posts. Of course back then it seemed the most notable thing about them was the familial connection. Weird Austin and Ty Dillon have had such a good shot at Cup while their father Mike Dillon only got a one-off when Mike Skinner got hurt. 443. Alex posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ben Lowe, I am just waiting for two weeks from now when DSFF makes his glorious one week comeback so that he and I can go on a three-state gorilla press slam spree again. 444. C posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I would agree if they took a guy like Whitt to the 9, but I don't eant Ragan in the 9 445. racefangurl posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 427, I agree on Regan Smith. He needs a ride. 446. Dense Drip posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Shut up Steve. 447. MAR posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) However he could end up at Thorosport in the #98 truck they are Ohio based and Sam is from Ohio. 448. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:22 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I think Tony shitting his pants at the Glen and winning was the most impressive thing he's done. 449. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ragan is apparently a strong candidate for the #98 ThorSport ride next year. 450. RaceFanX posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Michael Bay directed that Benghazi movie? Oh boy, I can see the internet firestorm coming already. 451. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Landon Cassill (won't happen though)" Sorry to say, but at this point I'm convinced Cassill is gonna make a career out of driving garbage equipment. He's significantly outperformed his low budget equipment on a fairly regular basis and yet still isn't a blip on ANY bigger-budget team's radar. The odds of him getting a ride in even half-decent equipment are not particularly good... 452. murb posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:24 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Joey Logano is a very good, driver, but he is nowhere near on the same level as Jeff Gordon in terms of results." I agree, but if you think about it, isn't he currently the closest thing we have to 1995 Gordon (AKA, "Wins-a-lot-but-is-still-trying-to-win-a-title Gordon" - basically when people first started hating Gordon)? What other young "arrogant"/"pretty boy"/"silver spoon" drivers have totally broken out like this and started winning a bunch and pissing everyone off? I guess Kyle Busch in 2008 or so is probably the closest thing, but I don't consider him a "silver spoon" guy like a lot of people do Logano, and I don't think his dominance was near on the level of what we've seen from Logano the past two years (meaning, Logano has actually raced for championships, as opposed to Kyle who shat the bed every year). So I agree with you in that Gordon is better, and yeah, I probably don't see Joey winning 4 titles and 93 races, but at the same time, I think this is the closest thing we've seen to Gordon's rise in the mid 90s since that happened. So I think that's where the majority of this hate for Joey is coming from. 453. Chives5150 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) UPDATE: According to the Coca-Racing Family Road Trip, Greg Biffle is STILL stealing sips from Tony Stewart's Coke. 454. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:24 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Now a new major motion picture from director Stephen Herek: In a world where two dim-witted NASCAR drivers Matt R. Kenseth, Esq. and Joey "Joseph" Logan intentionally take each other out of the championship despite their knowledge that avoiding bad results in NASCAR is more important than earning good ones. Kenseth receives a suspension from NASCAR after escalating their feud and after Logan blows a tire at Texas, he elects to take the rest of the season off and reconciles with Kenseth in a wild time-travel adventure where they abduct several famous historical figures and bring them to give speeches at the NASCAR awards banquet in Las Vegas in an attempt to increase media attention of the event by directive of Brian France. Coming soon to a theater near you, it's MATT & JOEY'S EXCELLENT ADVENTURE I need a nap... 455. Chives5150 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Michael Bay directed that Benghazi movie? Oh boy, I can see the internet firestorm coming already." Michael Bay does like fire. ;) 456. C posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hard happening to Timothy peters? 457. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ISH-SHOE for Harvick Another tire going down 458. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick has a tire down again! 459. TS1420 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well shit. 460. OldSchoolNascarDude1 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:27 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) My Lord, Kevin Harvick and Company has to have the worst racers luck ever. 461. Zackary Shawn posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Tire down for Harvick. Good news for him is that they're going to his playground next week. Bad news for him is that, eventually, his streak at Phoenix (or Jeff Gordon, I guess) WILL come to an end. 462. Benjamin LordLowe posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hey Murb if your thinking of leaving just hold off for a few weeks as I promise you and every other member of this site will witness the return of DSFF very, very soon. 463. Benjamin LordLowe posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) How on earth is Michael Bay still employed 464. Benjamin LordLowe posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Speaking of bad movies anyone remember the Star Wars Prequel films 465. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:28 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "MATT & JOEY'S EXCELLENT ADVENTURE" Not gonna lie, if this actually became a movie I would probably pay money to see this, LOL. Something like this would be so ridiculously hilarious that it would be hard to pass up on! 466. C posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) What's? I check Wikipedia and I didn't see that he was resigned for next year will he be? 467. C posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Why did DSFF leave in the first place? 468. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:29 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Not gonna lie, if this actually became a movie I would probably pay money to see this, LOL. Something like this would be so ridiculously hilarious that it would be hard to pass up on!" I'm just parodying Bill & Ted. You might be too young for the original Bill & Ted movies, but they're more hilarious than they have any right to be. But all the Joey Logan stuff just reminds me far too much of Ted "Theodore" Logan so I thought that joke set itself up. 469. Chives5150 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Matt and Joey just need to learn to be excellent to each other. 470. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Not too worried about Harvick since he'll 99% sure win next week (the 1% is barring shenanigans). And the fact that he had the shenanigans happen THIS week just makes it even MORE likely for him to win next week. I have a feeling that we're going to see yet another Kevin Harvick clutch moment at Jeff Gordon International Raceway wow did I actually just say that. 471. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Can they bring back Big Bill to gave his grandson a whack on the head? 472. Alex posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Why did DSFF leave in the first place? " He lost interest in the sport. Next topic, please. 473. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) DSFF left because he hated the general direction of where NASCAR was going 474. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I'm just parodying Bill & Ted. You might be too young for the original Bill & Ted movies" No, I've seen the original Bill & Ted (haven't seen the sequel, though), I know what it is and I agree that it's pretty funny. I just can't help but think a Bill & Ted knockoff starring Matt and Joey would be so terrible it's amazing :D 475. C posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @473 if he lost interest than why is his return so hyped up? 476. TS1420 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:34 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) "Why did DSFF leave in the first place?" He got snubbed by Brad Keselowski at Martinsville? 477. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ...Would you believe after all the tire issues, we've gone nearly 100 laps under the green? I know, I didn't expect to see that either. Doubt we're done with yellows though, ESPECIALLY considering Brad is getting ready to lap into the top 10. 478. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Alex BLOWman appears to have struck again... 479. Benjamin LordLowe posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well because this is going to be his final appearance on the comment board where he will explain everything his relationship with NASCAR & this comment board and where it all went south in his view with both subjects it will be a bit of finality for both him and this website. 480. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Quick question Alex, why did you change your name again? 481. Chives5150 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bowman's Twitter shenanigans with his hecklers are pretty hilarious. 482. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick is still gonna get a good finish out of this if he cang o to the finish without any issues. Brad has caught him for the lead already, though. 483. murb posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Are they still making a third Bill and Ted? I thought I remember reading about that a while ago. Although, I guess it doesn't matter since franchise revivals like that rarely ever work (I'm still mad they made a totally garbage sequel to SLC Punk, one of my all time favorite movies). 484. Benjamin LordLowe posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) At post 472: I know that's you Hinch5 485. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Not only does Harvick have to manage his tires and hold the shifter in place, he also has to conserve fuel since I think he came in for his tire going down just on the edge of the fuel window. 486. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) C- just read any old comments section from 2012 or 2013 and you'll see why people still talk about DSFF on here. Probably the most well-known poster on here maybe ever regardless of whether you agreed with the guy or not. 487. C posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm running for prwsient of this website 488. Chives5150 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The last thing Harvick needs is a caution and subsequent restart. 489. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 484- No DUUUUUUUUUUH 490. Benjamin LordLowe posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If you Think Keselowski has this race won well just remember what happened in the closing stages of this race last year 491. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think this race might have been more boring than either the truck race or even the Michigan Cup race Kenseth dominated... I really can't think of any race ever at Texas that I view a stone-cold classic (maybe some of those IRL races in the early 2000s, but I didn't care for much for IndyCar pack racing...and as far as that was concerned, I preferred the Chicagoland, Michigan, and/or Fontana races.) 492. Alex posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:41 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I make no secrets about being Hinch5... it goes back to my episode with the Webmaster back in July and that troll that was using profanities like "Hinch5 is an *fill in expletive here* as a screen name... anytime I post as "Hinch5" now it goes into moderation. 493. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Keselowski has led more laps today than anyone else has in any previous Texas race. Surprisingly considering all the tire issues early in the race, we may actually finish this race before sunset. 494. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Caution, likely from Erik Jones 495. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yellow flies for the first time in 100 laps for debris from Erik Jones' car. 496. David posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Erik Jones has a loose hood pin on the #20. That's a shame, he had a great run today. Debris brings out the caution. 497. typo posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) WHERE IS THIS DEBRIS NASCAR? 498. Lucstar88 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Something punctured the right front of the 20 499. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) In fact people like DSFF, Hinch/Alex, Paul, Long Shot, and murb who were all regular posters years ago but now are gone or don't post as often anymore are part of why I wish I had become a regular poster before I did, because some of those comments sections were great but we seem to be headed in the right direction again. 500. BMan0213 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) BS yellow. Clearly just to bunch up the field. I don't see anything on the track so imo this is no different than the most recent time Harvick had a tire go down which didn't bring out a yellow. Just NASCAR trying to bunch up the field at the end... 501. C posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) 500 502. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Caution for Erik Jones. 503. Lucstar88 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It must be legit, whatever it is, put a huge hole in the 20's hood. 504. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I know we disagree on lots of stuff Alex, but I really did feel bad for you when you were being bashed about everything. Fairly reminiscent of all the nasty comments I received on those YouTube typing videos... 505. Alex posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "In fact people like DSFF, Hinch/Alex, Paul, Long Shot, and murb who were all regular posters years ago but now are gone or don't post as often anymore are part of why I wish I had become a regular poster before I did, because some of those comments sections were great but we seem to be headed in the right direction again. " I'm just riding out one last go around with Gordo. Once he's done, my interest is gone except to laugh as the world burns. 506. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) And thank you NBC for reminding me of why I'm not cheering for Harvick as much as I normally would. 507. jabber1990 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I had an idea for a NASCAR/racing movie, I've had so many that I've since forgotten about them. for one of them i'd have to invent my own physics since there is no super-Late model Ford Transit and I know your comment was sarcasm, but Michael Bay has a job because he's an Independent Contractor, like most people in Hollywood 508. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) BK just beat Truex out. 509. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Yes, keep reminding us of Harvick's restart games at Talladega again, NBC. Keep reminding me why almost no one wants to see him win the title now... Well, at the very least, I CAN say this race was better than the '08 Brickyard 400. Tons of tire problems, but at least they settled down the further we got into the race and we were able to actually get some green-flag racing. That's...about the closest I can come to praising this race; that's pretty sad. 510. typo posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @499 It is so annoying when people act like "I wish everything was like it was back then! :(" Honestly RR Comment pages are still good in my opinion. Any ways there isn't many trolls any more like there was in 2013. Just be grateful there is a wonderful website that has many archives and results from races years ago. 511. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Michael Bay gets to make movies because his movies are profitable. People who like things that are critically acclaimed tend to have more diverse taste and are less likely to agree on what is good, so the biggest blockbusters tend to be increasingly mediocre high-concept things. Bay knows what sells. 512. BMan0213 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "It must be legit, whatever it is, put a huge hole in the 20's hood." Could be. Just wish they'd show it. Sorry but with how NASCAR has been over the last few years they have lost my trust when it comes to yellows like this lol. 513. Alex posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I was just wondering why my comments was in moderation... flip the page, dummy! 514. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Like I said earlier, which tire failures they are throwing cautions for and which tire failures they aren't throwing cautions for seems to be pretty random. I mean I was really shocked when Junior DIDN'T get one after his tire failure, so I'm not sure what the rationale is. 515. C posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think truex has got this 516. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) "Any ways there isn't many trolls any more like there was in 2013." Thank you for reminding me of the KFC Bone Eater...who fortunately, "died" when he allegedly choked on one of his beloved chicken bones... 517. murb posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 2004 (Sadler and Kahne's photo finish), Spring 2007 (great battle with Burton and Kenseth), and Fall 2010 (good battle with Hamlin and Kenseth at the end, along with a bunch of other wildness all day) are still the best Cup races here. Other than that, I don't think I can say I've ever enjoyed any race here in any series (I don't know, actually there might have been one or two good Truck races here back in the day - but even those IRL races were never all that good to me when you take away the crazy photo finishes). But yes, this is easily one of my two or three least favorite race tracks. I've never liked Texas. 518. RaceFanX posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I'm just riding out one last go around with Gordo. Once he's done, my interest is gone except to laugh as the world burns." Going to hang around for the IndyCar/Road Racing stuff? 519. Alex posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) "Thank you for reminding me of the KFC Bone Eater...who fortunately, "died" when he allegedly choked on one of his beloved chicken bones... " That was one of my better moments... I have no idea who came up with it, but yes a handful of those posts. The ones that went like "Eating chicken bones and rooting for Matt Kenseth" were me... as well as making that SOB die. 520. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Holy cow. Truex held on longer than I thought he would. 521. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Go Truex! 522. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "But yes, this is easily one of my two or three least favorite race tracks. I've never liked Texas." Same, I've never felt this place deserved two dates on the schedule. 523. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) We have just made RacingReference history. This is the first comments section to go over 500 comments ever since the format change. Lets hope there's no glitches. 524. Benjamin LordLowe posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If you thought this would be a fun & exciting race well I've got some bad news for you. 525. TS1420 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:52 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Go away Jimmie. 526. Alex posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Going to hang around for the IndyCar/Road Racing stuff? " I still watch those with an addiction. Indy, IMSA, IMSA GT3, Lamborghini Super Trofeo, CTSCC, PWC, etc. 527. David posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I was really hoping Truex would stay with him, but oh well... 528. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Johnson is trying to spoil the party at Texas once again, LOL Larson is behind the wall. What the hell happened to him? 529. Alex posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) 526 wasn't me. 530. Alex posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Never mind... it was 526, but Webmaster deleted it. 531. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Originally I thought "Dos Jotas" meant "Two Toyotas" 532. BluesTravelerFan posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @452 Agreed murb. 533. RaceFanX posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Lamborghini Super Trofeo is televised? They on CBS Sports? 534. Alex posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:54 pm Rate this comment: (1) (2) And now... one... MORE... TIIMMMEEEE!!!! Piss off, Johnson. 535. C posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think truex can get em 536. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Just watch, Jimmie is gonna win this. trolololol 537. Alex posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Lamborghini Super Trofeo is televised? They on CBS Sports?" Free webstream... that's how I get all of them except IndyCar. 538. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) We finally get some good racing for the lead. Too little, too late to save this race, though... 539. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Christ Sakes, did the rest of the field go to pit road? I don't think anyone else is in the same straightaway. 540. RaceFanX posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:55 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) 9 to go and it's a two-car battle. Keselowski vs. Johnson, 2012 redux! 541. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Um... Larson? What happened? 542. Alex posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jeff Gordon is the one going "TROLOLOLOL." He knows he's in it for Homestead, so he's not giving two s#!*s today. 543. OldSchoolNascarDude1 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Lap traffic may be a factor. They'll be closing on those wavearound cars quickly. 544. C posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Who do I root for Johnson or Harvick 545. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Johnson is gonna win this in traffic.... 546. RaceFanX posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Jimmie is on him like cheese on a pizza. 547. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick and KyBu are TIED for the final chase spot right now. Its pretty much gonna come down to Busch ad Truex for the last spot assuming Harvick does what we all think he'll do net week. 548. C posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I mens Keselowski I'll root for him 549. TS1420 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Goddamnit Brad! 550. Nathan8848 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) YES!!! 551. Lucstar88 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Bout time the 48 showed up!! 552. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Johnson wins LOL 553. Alex posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) As they run, the points: Gordon 4081- in Homestead Truex 4080 Ky. Busch 4079 Harvick 4079 Edward 4069 Keselowski 4061 Ku. Busch 4048 Logano 4013 554. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:58 pm Rate this comment: (2) (4) How can a bad race get worse? There's your answer. 555. Nathan8848 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:58 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) You aren't going to outrun Johnson late in the race at Texas!! 556. RaceFanX posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 3 to go and Johnson's pulling away. Keselowski goes from ticket to Homestead to 22 points out of a spot. 557. murb posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wow. 558. typo posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) :( Why :( 559. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And people think Harvick is the best closer... I think that's probably what Gordon wanted since given Brad's performance here, Gordon needed somebody to keep the Penske cars out at Homestead. 560. BluesTravelerFan posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:59 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) For once I'm not unhappy to see Jimmie win. 561. Nathan8848 posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) YES! YES! YES! 562. Alex posted: 11.08.2015 - 5:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) And THIS is why they race for 500 miles! First time the 48 has had a real driver in 5 months! 563. Nathan8848 posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Somehow Jr. finishes 6th despite all of issues. 564. Alex posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Keselowski led 312 of 334 laps. *sizzle* 565. murb posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And Truex falls to 8th. Damn it. 566. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:00 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Johnson scores his second straight meaningless triumph in the fall Texas race (and his third straight at Texas). Gotta feel for Brad, though, to dominate the race THAT thoroughly and lose in the final 5 laps? That's gotta suck. 567. RaceFanX posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jimmie Johnson steals a win. It's his first victory since Dover back in May. The Lowe's Special plays spoiler. 568. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:01 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Johnson wins lol And Jr comes back from TWO FLAT TIRES to finish sixth. Helluva drive. 569. MAR posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I thought I would never say this but good job Jimmie lol 570. C posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) WOW 571. BMan0213 posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Questionable yellow effects the outcome of the race at the end.... At least Johnson still had to work for it. He clearly had the best car at the end. 572. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Also how about a shout out to Michael Annett, 31st may not seem like much but after the week that team had just getting to the track that isn't that bad. 573. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Let's do it. Harvick speeds in the pits at Phoenix or something. Gordon, Ky. Busch, Truex, Edwards That might be the least deserving Final Four possible and would really stick it to Brian France. Especially when Kyle probably won in that scenario. 574. Fireball1020 posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Lost a lot of respect for Brad considering how badly he ruined Truex's race. Truex would've won if Brad hadn't bumped him. 575. Sam Wilson :) posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) jimmie johnson wins, personally not my favorite, but i can't wait to see my sister olives reaction too bad she isn't here #sheatwegmans 576. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) So unless the Penske cars dominate Phoenix...er, Jeff Gordon Raceway, or Kyle/Harvick/Truex has trouble...looks like the final four will probably be Gordon, Harvick, Kyle, and Truex. 577. TS1420 posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:03 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Why the hell did Brad start giving that butt-head the bottom? Every time he took away the bottom Johnson fell off him. Continue to do that? Nope! Let's do what everybody loves to do and give Jimmie his preferred line when battling for the win. Brad was the lone hope for not giving in to and bowing down to the 48 and now he is just as bad as the rest of the field. 578. Nathan8848 posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick is basically a lock to win at Phoenix. 579. Sean posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:04 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Brad is terrible at dueling Jimmie. Jimmie's head-to-head record on final lead changes vs. Brad is more lopsided than almost any other current set of star drivers. 580. David posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:04 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "For once I'm not unhappy to see Jimmie win." Same here. I'm actually really impressed with the way he hunted Keselowski down. After that domination, I was hoping SOMEBODY would make a race of it... 581. Sam Wilson :) posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 2 races to go phoenix homestead both on nbc at 3pm et 582. Nathan8848 posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Just think if Jr. won at Dega, Hendrick would have won 3 in row. I think they are back after their summer mess. 583. BMan0213 posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:05 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) "Lost a lot of respect for Brad considering how badly he ruined Truex's race. Truex would've won if Brad hadn't bumped him." Suck it up dude he didn't wreck him, he rubbed him and rubbing son is racing... 584. Lucstar88 posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:06 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) Brad went to Truex to apologize. Truex said it was just racing, and shook hands. 585. Benjamin LordLowe posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This just goes to show you never count your chickens until they're hatched 586. joey2448 posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wow I'm still having trouble comprehending how Keselowski lost this race. He absolutely crushed the field all day and he needed to win. Absolutely gutted for him. What Jimmie did was criminal, he stole that win. 587. Nathan8848 posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jamie still finishes in the top 10 despite taking 2 on that last stop. 588. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:10 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "I'm actually really impressed with the way he hunted Keselowski down. After that domination, I was hoping SOMEBODY would make a race of it..." Same here, honestly. After Keselowski utterly owned the field all race along, I was really wondering if there was any way ANYONE else would get a shot at him, and sure enough, here comes the #48 after the restart. Still kind of feel bad for Brad, though...Don't count the chickens before they hatch! 589. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) So at the rate we're going, the favorites to win the title at Homestead would be Kyle and Harvick (assuming the current drivers poised to make the final four are the ones). God, I really don't want to see EITHER of them win the title. Considering Kyle missed a third of the season and Harvick's Talladega hijinks, I get the feeling a Harvick/Kyle title would be pretty unpopular around here... Honestly, at this point I'm pulling for either Gordon or Truex. 590. Smiff_2 posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:14 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) YEEEEEAHHHHH.....that sucked lol. I need to binge eat or drink or something to quell the burning pain I'm feeling inside of me right now..... God dammit, Brad! 591. Zackary Shawn posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I still don't hate the Elimination Chase. Kind of like it, actually. ¯\_(ã??)_/¯ 592. Tide1032 posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jimmie Johnson 75st win? One to Draw Dale Earnhardt in All-Time race wins 593. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Honestly, I think the biggest surprise is that this race actually finished before the sunset, LOL. No doubt owing to the lack of yellows in the second half...Considering the sheer amount of tire problems in the first half, I don't think anyone would have predicted that! Not THE worst race of all time (as I said, better than the '08 Brickyard 400, at least-at LEAST they managed to get some green flag racing in) but overall...eh, it's Texas. This track almost never puts on a very good race. Sure, there was a good battle for the lead at the end, but I don't think it was enough to bring this race to classic status. Your mileage might vary, however. Gonna be interesting to see what happens at Phoenix... 594. BMan0213 posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:18 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @589 I honestly feel IF Truex gets to Homestead he is gonna win the title. Homestead is his best track. He has an average finish of 10th there with the majority of those starts coming with average to slightly above average teams. He's never gone there with a team that is running as good as his is right now. It might sound crazy but I think he could be the favorite for that race. 595. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:22 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I think after the disaster that was the first 50 laps of this race though it certainly redeemed itself, certainly not a classic by any means but not even close to being one of the worst of the year. 596. Benjamin LordLowe posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Is there anyway to vote Brian France out of office 597. Sam Wilson :) posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) well i hoped that people in the grandstands would throw they're beer can on the track so debris caution 598. C posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Nascsr should elect a driver to be a representative of the drivers and talk to the people of nascsr to make the racing better 599. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) So Kyle Busch is gonna make it to Homestead isn't he... 600. Schroeder51 posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:39 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) "I think after the disaster that was the first 50 laps of this race though it certainly redeemed itself, certainly not a classic by any means but not even close to being one of the worst of the year." Agree; it didn't reach all-time classic status by any means, but it at least managed to not be the worst race of the season. Second Michigan race was MUCH more horrid to watch... You know, I think Gordon and Truex have been the two most consistent drivers in the Chase so far. They're pretty much the only two to NOT have bad luck thus far-Truex has never finished lower than 15th, and Gordon's worst finish is a 14th. I would be all for a Truex title; it would be nice to see him redeem himself after the MWR fiasco in which he was made the fall guy despite not actually doing anything himself, plus he's actually run well all year so it wouldn't exactly be an undeserved title. Would be a nice story for the Funiture Row team to win a title! 601. joey2448 posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I still believe that Keselowski can make it in on points. 19 below the cutoff is actually doable. Kurt being 28 behind is a much bigger hurdle. Only problem is that Harvick will be tough to beat at Phoenix, so points is gonna be what it comes down to. By the way, here's Kenseth's tweet after the race, lol... "Good work @JimmieJohnson! Textbook pass for the win at the end of the race when someone is trying to take your lane. #quintessential" 602. BMan0213 posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) So any chance the Gibbs cars could get a points penalty for their spliters? I know NASCAR didn't do anything to Truex when they made him make changes to the car before dover, but they also said right away they wouldn't take points away from him. I don't think they came out and said that about the JGR cars today. 603. joey2448 posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:52 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Another thing I just can't figure out is how was the 48 so much faster than the 2 at the end? I mean, all day long Brad had the fastest car, but after that pit stop, Jimmie just takes off. I'm not trying to discount the win, because that was an exciting battle at the end that had me on my feet. But I sometimes wonder... 604. Benjamin LordLowe posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Phoenix International raceway should be renamed the Kevin Harvick Memorial Speedway 605. BMan0213 posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @603 Brad did make contact with Truex on that last restart. Maybe it was just enough to throw the car off just a bit. 606. Alex posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Logano is literally a must win at 63 back of 3rd. System exposed again 607. Nascar Lead Lap Points posted: 11.08.2015 - 6:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsor Updates #24 Axalta/Service King #1 Net-Jets/Cessna/Bell Helicopter #20 DeWalt "Made in the U.S.A." #17 Kimberly-Clark/Fastenal #10 GoDaddy/Thank You Danica & Nascar #47 Kroger/Scott Prod./Clorox/Hungry Jack #16 Ortho Bug-B-Gone #40 O'Reilly Auto Parts/CRC/K&W FiberLock #26 Overture Promotional Product Agency #38 Love's Travel Stops/TravelPass #7 Nikko/Road Rippers DNF Reason #42 Handling (Larson never crashed, had some damage from a tire failure and pulled off with 30 to go) 608. John posted: 11.08.2015 - 7:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 1. #24 Jeff Gordon ADVANCES 2. #18 Kyle Busch +11 3. #4 Kevin Harvick +10 4. #78 Martin Turex Jr. +7 5. #19 Carl Edwards -7 6. #2 Brad Keselowski -19 7. #41 Kurt Busch -28 8. #22 Joey Logano -63 Harvick is unbeatable so I think the top 4 currently are pretty much a lock, unless the #19 can have a really good Phoenix race and the #78 or #18 doesn't. 609. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 7:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think the drivers that advance are going to be Gordon (obviously), Harvick (wins Phoenix), and Truex and Kyle Busch get in on points. 610. David posted: 11.08.2015 - 7:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think the only way the top four are going to change before Homestead is if one of the other four wins at Phoenix. 611. Baker posted: 11.08.2015 - 8:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (4) Hahaha another NASCAR F up handing Johnson another unearned victory. 612. Baker posted: 11.08.2015 - 8:14 pm Rate this comment: (2) (3) 2 weeks in a row Penske has earned their spot in the final 4 only to have it manipulated right out from under them. If they aren't in contention to win next week I wouldn't mind seeing the 2 and 22 goes hunting for the 18 & 19 and repay the favor. 613. Eric posted: 11.08.2015 - 8:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Does anyone have a take on Matt Kenseth after he mocked Brian France on Twitter after the race? What Matt tweeted was "Good work @JimmieJohnson! Textbook pass for the win at the end of the race when someone is trying to take your lane. #quintessential" The hashtag Matt did was a shot at Brian France since Brian France labeled Logano's winning move at Kansas as 'quintessential NASCAR,' . 614. TS1420 posted: 11.08.2015 - 8:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Another thing I just can't figure out is how was the 48 so much faster than the 2 at the end? I mean, all day long Brad had the fastest car, but after that pit stop, Jimmie just takes off. I'm not trying to discount the win, because that was an exciting battle at the end that had me on my feet. But I sometimes wonder..." As much as the 48 team has been known to dabble in cheating. I think the impending darkness had a lot to do with it. Chad is one of the best at setting up a car for the transition from daylight to darkness. 615. Watto posted: 11.08.2015 - 8:48 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) Brad Keselowski has this reputation for being overaggressive and at times dirty, but I don't his reputation is worse than his driving. Brad had just as much to lose today as Kenseth did at Kansas and you saw Brad racing Jimmie Johnson with a level of respect that Joey didn't get. Granted, I don't think Joey did the right thing at Kansas (and I sure don't think Kenseth did the right thing at Martinsville), but often times, the targets of fans' hate don't really deserve it. Brad's a whole lot more trustworthy to race than people think. 616. TS1420 posted: 11.08.2015 - 8:54 pm Rate this comment: (3) (1) "Hahaha another NASCAR F up handing Johnson another unearned victory." Brad handed Johnson this victory, not NASCAR. All he had to do was keep taking away the low line (he did that a few times earlier in the run and Jimmie dropped a few car lengths off him) Instead he gives Jimmie the bottom and he inevitably passes him for the lead. It's a fact that Jimmie loves running the bottom and works best down there yet all these idiots give him that line time after time. Kind of like how when 48 has a mediocre qualifying session and everybody ahead of them fails to draw one of the select pit-road spots leaving it for the 48 to scoop up. 617. Jarrett88fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 8:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It is not surprising to me that the past two weeks have featured two of the best drivers of their generation come through to victory. Before the caution, Johnson had moved up to 3rd place albeit 12 seconds behind. However, the 48 was adjusted right for the darkness as TS1420 alluded to. Kurt Busch had a fantastic car at the 1st Phoenix race, so Harvick winning isn't automatic. However, Logano, Kurt Busch, Keselowski, and Harvick are all going to try to win Phoenix. It will be interesting. 618. Chives5150 posted: 11.08.2015 - 8:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "As much as the 48 team has been known to dabble in cheating. I think the impending darkness had a lot to do with it. Chad is one of the best at setting up a car for the transition from daylight to darkness." I could've sworn that I saw something on Twitter right before the race where someone said that a decent portion of the #48's notes were on nighttime setup. I don't know if I was just seeing or hearing something, and in fact it's something totally different, but I thought I would just throw that out there. I honestly wish that the spring Texas race would go back to it's Sunday daytime slot. I feel like that racing was usually a little bit better than the Saturday night slot. I'm perfectly fine with the day-to-dusk/night transition that they have right now for the fall race. As a Texan, I would hate to see Texas lose a date, but I can totally see why many people want to see a date go. Sometimes I do feel like Texas does not deserve a second date, though. I can only be somewhat biased towards anything Texan for so long. If the trend of bland races continues, then I wouldn't mind seeing a date being lost. 619. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 9:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) I am starting to respect Brad K much more than Logano something I didn't think I'd be saying after last years chase. 620. Anonymous posted: 11.08.2015 - 9:31 pm Rate this comment: (2) (4) "Why the hell did Brad start giving that butt-head the bottom?" Maybe you should rewatch the pass. Brad didn't give Johnson anything, Johnson got a run down the backstretch and got under him. Brad started to go low to block but Johnson just had too much momentum. I know you can't stand to give the man credit for anything but Johnson made that pass, he wasn't given anything. 621. Watto posted: 11.08.2015 - 10:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) In my post (#615) feel free to backspace "I don't" for me cause I forgot to. I'll try to remember to re-read my posts before I click publish next time.. hahah. Sometimes editing makes it a little messy. I think everyone understood what I meant in that sentence, anyway. Brad has a reputation that's far worse than how he actually is. I think a lot of drivers in the same situation wouldn't have run Jimmie so clean. I think Brad and Jimmie race each other how they wish to be raced, and don't really have any problems as a result. 622. racefangurl posted: 11.08.2015 - 10:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Roush has bad suspension, somebody said in a place other than here. 623. Minnowfur posted: 11.08.2015 - 10:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) What happened to the 42 car haha DNF handleing 624. WinstonCupStandings posted: 11.08.2015 - 10:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 1) Kevin Harvick (5074) -Leader 2) Joey Logano (4943) -131 3) Dale Earnhardt, Jr. (4682) -392 -Out 4) Brad Keselowski (4656) -418 -Out 5) Martin Truex, Jr. (4516) -558 -Out 6) Jimmie Johnson (4464) -610 -Out 7) Denny Hamlin (4372) -702 -Out 8) Carl Edwards (4301) -773 -Out 9) Jeff Gordon (4264) -810 -Out 10) Matt Kenseth (4210) -864 -Out 625. Big Mac Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 10:57 pm Rate this comment: (7) (3) Just got back a little while ago. Man murb was right. When you leave the comments the negativity is really glaring, just like this race. In fact I find it hilarious that you hate it that most fans constantly complain about everything yet you guys do the exact. same. thing! Yes this race was not a classic by any means but it was decent with a great finish, not as bad as you guys made it out to be, mainly with who won and the tires which mostly resolved after the beginning. Anyways I had a blast. I'm going to tell all about it, starting with the intros. First, during the first half of the intros the Air Titans were motionless yet blaring loud noises so no one could hear the intros. But when they stopped, the crowd erupted in cheers. It was hilarious. Now the driver intros. Logano and Keselowski got completely booed by EVERYONE in the crowd. Kenseth obviously would have gotten the most cheers. Jr, got a fair share of cheers, but the big surprise was Gordon. Not only did he get a ton of cheers, but his were at least five times louder than the 88's. Jr. better watch his back, the MPD is not a lock for him this year. Another thing cool in the prerace was that they did a huge commeratiom to Gordon making his final start. George W. Bush gave a message over the TV commerating Gordon's career and 24 skydivers parachuted onto the track with 24 themed parachutes. Obviously a little much, but I thought these were nice touches. Now to the race. The first few laps were good, but then Logano spun and the crowd roared. No kidding, I couldn't hear myself and then he went to the garage. The first 50 laps were terrible with all of the tire problems, my dad and I joked that we would never leave. But after that the race got better. First of all, TV networks do not do justice to the excitement in the race. NBC and FOX only focus on the leader or in this case, the "eliminator 8" and they hardly focus on on track battles, which people find the most exciting and that's what the old networks in the 90's excelled in, they would just find battles whether it be first or last. Yes compared to other tracks Texas isn't always exciting, but the TV coverage doesn't show the entire story. Now for the drivers I was impressed with and dissapointed in in this race: Impressed: Keselowski: Completely dominated. Led the most laps but barely came up short. Harvick: Finished 3rd but overcame not one, but TWO tire failures. Without those, he could very well have won. Kyle Busch: Finished 4th, and it looks like he finally learned not to choke. Dale Jr.: Had issues and still finished 6th. McMurray: Bags his 10th top 10 this season :D Dillon: Ran well, and finished a solid 11th. Jones: Faded late, but ran top 10 for a long time and still finished in the top 15. I think he is a star in the making. Scott: Ran top 10 for a majority of the race and still got a top 15. Never thought I'd say this, but he may have a future in Cup. Larson: Ran well, but can't catch a break. Dissapointed: Menard: Only got a top 15 because of lucky dogs. Ran in mid-20's most of race. Kahne: Ran in the teens most of the race and ended up a dissapointing 20th. Bowman: Was the slowest car on track until the engine blew, rather uncharacteristic of them. Stewart: Crashed by himself and finished 42nd. Logano: Although not his fault, he now has a 75 point disadvantage and he must win Phoenix, and knowing how good Mr. Harvick is there, that will be a tall order. The middle parts of the race were decent with some battles, but it got exciting at the end. First, Brad was the man in this race. I know I haven't given him much credit this season, but he was clutch today and they got a dominant car when they needed one, so I give that team and driver a lot of credit. Now the battle between Johnson and Keselowski. Now I know that Johnson err, Nap Time isn't very popular on here, but this race once again shows why Johnson is one of the best ever in this sport. Brad had the dominant car all day and Jimmie could have said forget it, but he charged him every single lap and didn't give. And I have a lot of respect between the 2 and 48 for their battle unlike the 22 and 20 at Kansas. Brad raced Jimmie clean, he didn't obsessively block, he just tried to find a line and make it work. And Jimmie raced Brad clean as well. Watching the race from the stands, there was several times that Jimmie was right on the 2's bumper. He could have easily punted him out of the way, but he didn't. That was a clean hard battle right there and #quintessential NASCAR (Kenseth mocking the chase and Brian France has been hilarious). Now it was 3 laps to go. No NASCAR did not hand this to the 48, he earned it and found a way around. And some of you think the 48 cheated? Haha if anyone cheated it was the 2 for having such a dominant car all day. But the point is that both cars were clean. The crowd was on their feet. They knew something would happen. And then Johnson got a run on the backstretch and took the lead. The crowd cheered so loud you would have thought DALE JR was taking the lead. And then Johnson won and the crowd kept cheering, all throughout the burnouts, victory lane, and when he spun himself out on the polish victory lap. That had to be one of the few times I have ever seen the crowd excited to see Johnson win and it was great. It was a good hard battle for the win, it was clean and now we leave on a good note... ...except for some of you it won't. You guys hated Johnson winning, you thought this race was the worst of the year, and you complained about a lot of meaningless stuff. Not trying to sound like a jerk, but weren't we talking on this page about the same NASCAR fanbase that we have lost respect for because they complain too much.? While I respect all of your opinions and by no means was this race a classic, but I think that the majority of posters on here complained about a lot of meaningless stuff... Anyways we stayed for a while, but then we realized that we could go on the track. It was my first time setting foot on a racetrack, and it felt amazing. We took pictures, collected tire rubber (yes seriously) as souvenirs, and we got to listen to a concert all as the sun began to set. We then left the track, bought some merchandise and we went back home. While the race wasn't the greatest, I will look back year from now, and think about November 8, 2015. I had a blast, and this for now will always be one of the best days of my life. 626. David posted: 11.08.2015 - 11:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ^I am genuinely happy for you that you enjoyed yourself. Fans like you are true race fans, those who can enjoy a race for what it is and not complain about every little thing. 627. Anonymous posted: 11.08.2015 - 11:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Is DSFF going to come on here and say that Brad choked, just like he would have had it been Kyle Busch or Denny driving the car? 628. 88&4Fan posted: 11.08.2015 - 11:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I second pretty much everything you just said Big Mac. Glad you had a good time at the race. 629. JG24FanForever posted: 11.08.2015 - 11:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jimmie Johnson gets his 75th career win. 3rd consecutive and 6th win at Texas. He became only the second driver in Nascar Cup history to win a super-speedway event 4 straight years. The other being Jeff Gordon's streak in the Southern 500, and this race played out almost exactly the same as the 1998 Southern 500. Jeff Gordon gets his 5th consecutive and 473rd career Top 10. Joey Logano's average finish has gone from 7.7 to 9.5 in the last two races. Kevin Harvick ties Jeff Gordon for the most Top 5 finishes in a season over the past 16 seasons(2000-2015). Gordon posting 21 Top 5 finishes in 2007. Jimmie Johnson in 2004,'07 and Joey Logano, this season, are the only other 20+ Top 5 seasons over that 16 season span. 630. Schroeder51 posted: 11.09.2015 - 12:47 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Just got back a little while ago. Man murb was right. When you leave the comments the negativity is really glaring, just like this race. In fact I find it hilarious that you hate it that most fans constantly complain about everything yet you guys do the exact. same. thing!" As someone who did a fair bit of complaining during this race (guilty as charged)...this I can actually agree with. I honestly think I enjoyed the Darlington race this year far more than I would have watching it on TV. I remember being kind of annoyed due to the ridiculous number of yellows (I was wondering how long that race would take to end), but still, I still remember having a fun time when most of the people here didn't like the race all that much, though, LOL. I was actually not TOO mindful of Edwards taking the win mainly because I'd never seen him win in person before! "First of all, TV networks do not do justice to the excitement in the race. NBC and FOX only focus on the leader or in this case, the "eliminator 8" and they hardly focus on on track battles, which people find the most exciting and that's what the old networks in the 90's excelled in, they would just find battles whether it be first or last. Yes compared to other tracks Texas isn't always exciting, but the TV coverage doesn't show the entire story." This too is sadly true. Being at the track gives you a better perspective on what's going around through the field. Yeah, you still pay a good deal of attention to the leaders, but it's near impossible NOT to notice battles throughout the rest of the field. TV...doesn't really give you that option considering they spend most of their time fixated on the leaders or the favorites, so a race that might otherwise be decent can definitely look like a disaster on TV! "You guys hated Johnson winning, you thought this race was the worst of the year, and you complained about a lot of meaningless stuff." I didn't complain about Johnson winning the race; I won't deny that he did straight up earn the win. I appreciate that he and Brad at least raced each other cleanly, and honestly, it's been quite a while since the #48 won so I guess it doesn't bug me that much. I'll admit...some of my complaints were kind of petty looking back on them-I will say the tire situation early on was pretty aggravating because it was giving me flashbacks to the disaster that was the '08 Brickyard 400 (I wonder if ANYONE out there actually has a positive opinion of that race...?), but at least they did mostly sort themselves out the further they got and at least this race had much less ridiculous "drama" than the previous two...which is always a plus. Like I said earlier, not a great race by any means, but it wasn't the worst of the season. Glad you had a good time! 631. Schroeder51 posted: 11.09.2015 - 12:50 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Hahaha another NASCAR F up handing Johnson another unearned victory." Lest we not forget, this is the same man who a few years ago (on one of the Kentucky race pages, if I recall right) said he would be OK with Jimmie Johnson being fatally injured in a crash if it meant Dale Earnhardt could still be alive...one of THE most vile and cold-hearted comments I've come across...well...anywhere! 632. someone posted: 11.09.2015 - 1:14 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wow, I just found out that with the "old chase" (as in no points resets), Carl Edwards would be leading Jeff Gordon (-7), and Martin Truex Jr. (-14). Obviously they would've raced a little differently, but can you imagine those three battling it out for the championship even though they've each had somewhat mediocre seasons? As for the race, I wouldn't say it was the worst race of the season (that honor goes to either Richmond or Michigan race), but it certainly wasn't great. I was actively rooting for Jimmie in the end for no reason other than a Brad win would harm Carl's chances of advancing (though I completely recognize that he really doesn't deserve to). 633. Watto posted: 11.09.2015 - 1:34 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Brad handed Johnson this victory, not NASCAR. All he had to do was keep taking away the low line (he did that a few times earlier in the run and Jimmie dropped a few car lengths off him) Instead he gives Jimmie the bottom and he inevitably passes him for the lead." Jimmie got underneath Brad because of Brad running low in 1 & 2 that lap and Jimmie running high to get a massive run. I'm sure you noticed that Brad tried a few times to take away Jimmie's line, which is really the only thing he could've done, but Jimmie kept switching to different grooves for clean air. It was a really smart race, but Jimmie's car was also way faster than Brad's that run, so it's not exactly a shock that Jimmie was able to get by. I'd have to rewatch the backstretch to see if Brad could have blocked harder or forced Jimmie to pass high, but either way, I don't think Brad was going to beat Jimmie at that point. 634. WinstonCupStandings posted: 11.09.2015 - 2:58 am Rate this comment: (0) (5) I've got Logano winning at Jeff Gordon International Raceway, and somehow Dipshit making it in on points. I'm calling it folks. 635. Tylor Thaber posted: 11.09.2015 - 9:56 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) @631 Honestly I just can't help but laugh at how terrible that comment is. You greet slander with disgust, I greet it with laughter. Why? I can't help but laugh at how people think saying garbage like this on the internet, where EVERYONE can see it, is okay. I'm going to see if I can go find the original comment, actually. This race was pretty quiet, which is what NASCAR needs right now. Good job by Erik Jones in 12th. 636. Tylor Thaber posted: 11.09.2015 - 10:03 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Found the comment. I'll spare you guys the trauma, but it's comment 380 on the page for the 2013 race. 24 downvotes. 637. Spen posted: 11.09.2015 - 10:48 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Backing up to Sean's question of how some drivers are considered "blue-collar" and some aren't, I believe it basically all boils down to one thing: beer. Matt, Mark, Jr. and others seem like guys who you could have a beer with the night before a race. Joey, the Busch brothers, Johnson and early Gordon don't really seem like that type. It may seem silly, but that's why George W. Bush got a second term, despite being just as "silver spoon" as Kerry. I disagree on Kyle being the favorite to win among the current final four. He's always sucked royally at Homestead. Admittedly, the fact that he's never entered Homestead with a shot at the title probably affects his mindset going into the race (a "let's just get this year over with already" attitude) probably skews the results a bit, but he's still never really shown any real affinity for the track. If Edwards makes it, he might be a safer pick, especially since he's been finally getting over that whole "can't close the deal in big races" thing. But Johnson's win this week is encouraging for Gordon. Much as I'd love to see it, I can't see Truex winning this. I'm not sure about his odds of making it through Phoenix, even. Harvick's a wild card. For some reason, I get the feeling he'll have some issue next week. Have we ever had two different drivers win four in a row at an event in the same year? 638. David posted: 11.09.2015 - 11:22 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "he's still never really shown any real affinity for the track." Considering that his record there in the lower series is nearly spotless (13 top fives across 16 starts in the Xfinity and Truck series), I would disagree. Even if he was Buschwhacking, that's still pretty impressive. 639. GDR4 posted: 11.09.2015 - 12:47 pm Rate this comment: (5) (0) I know he isn't exactly Mr. Popular right now, but Kevin Harvick finished third with not just two flat tires but having to drive the car one handed the last 100 laps on one of the fastest tracks in NASCAR. 640. Benjamin LordLowe posted: 11.09.2015 - 2:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm not the biggest Gordon fan in the world but after not making the final four in soul crushing fashion last year he probably deserves his happily ever after in his final season 641. racefangurl posted: 11.09.2015 - 3:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (3) 627, some comment compared DSFF to mister83, Willy on Wheels and pie girl me all rolled up in one. However, somebody said he could be somewhat entertaining, too. Alex/Hinch liked him more than me. Guess what? I don't miss comments saying "I've got some bad news". He claimed to have Asperger's and maybe he did, given how he was about Tony Stewart. I bet he's gonna say goodbye to us and say why. I'm an Aspie, too, but I don't care what DSFF thinks. He may not have been the original DSFF and if so, he was a troll. If I'm right about the troll thing, his absence means one less troll person to have to think about. I've been trolled, but it's been awhile. Not a fan of trolls. May Harvick sit on a tack at Phoenix. 642. John Royal posted: 11.09.2015 - 4:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Gordon probably has illegal engine in Homestead. If he wins and gets caught NASCAR wont take his win away. It will be the most controversial championship. 643. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.09.2015 - 5:13 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) "First of all, TV networks do not do justice to the excitement in the race. NBC and FOX only focus on the leader or in this case, the "eliminator 8" and they hardly focus on on track battles, which people find the most exciting and that's what the old networks in the 90's excelled in, they would just find battles whether it be first or last. Yes compared to other tracks Texas isn't always exciting, but the TV coverage doesn't show the entire story." This is my biggest gripe. We've all been to races and know there's usually battles for position throughout the field, yet TV(NASCAR most notably) has an iso shot of the leader or the fan fave/Chase driver with no one within 3 seconds of him. In my opinion, the best shots are the wide shots at the entrance of turns 1/3 where you can see passes being set up or completed.Those shots unfortunately are rarely used in modern broadcasts. 644. 88&4Fan posted: 11.09.2015 - 5:24 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) I can't help but think back to a comment that I believe Schroeder made a few weeks ago, about how this elimination style chase was eventually going to lead to a completely undeserving champion. Well... Jeff Gordon - Runs like crap all year, gets through the first two rounds due to other guys having problems, wins Martinsville, and now has a 1/4 chance to win the title. Kyle Busch - Doesn't even race 1/3 of the season. Regardless of whether or not it was his fault he had to sit out (which if you want to be technical, he did cause that wreck and he shouldn't have been in that race to begin with but I won't get into that) he should not be a champion after only running 2/3 of the season. People say that it would be like a quarterback being injured for the first few games of a season, and then coming back to lead the team to win the Superbowl, its actually more like a team not even playing the first few games, and then going on a hot streak to make the Superbowl. Kevin Harvick - His stunt at Talladega negates the great season he had since he should not be in the running for the championship right now. Martin Truex - This is a tough one. Sure, he's run great, but this is the first time EVER that Truex has even been CLOSE to a championship. And not like Kyle Busch, who normally puts together a great regular season but then crashes and burns during the chase, Truex has made a career out of being a 10-20th place driver. And he finished 22ND in points last year if I'm not mistaken. I hate to say it because I like Truex A LOT, but this season has been the exception for him and not the rule. Carl Edwards - He's been one of the most consistent drivers during the chase, but his regular season was awful. Didn't he only have something like two top tens in the first half of the season? Carl also would not have made the chase under the 2004-2006 format, and that alone is enough to disqualify his credibility as a champion. Brad Keselowski - He could actually be the most deserving driver right now (assuming the inevitable happens and Harvick wins Phoenix), and that's pretty pathetic, considering how he's been overshadowed by his teammate all year long, and his only win was because NASCAR manipulated the finish. Kurt Busch - I hate to say this as well, and it isn't QUITE on the same scale as Kyle, but he did miss three races. Granted, it wasn't his fault that NASCAR jumped the gun despite there being any evidence but still, I really don't know how much he deserves to win it. Joey Logano - The chance that he makes it to Homestead is about 0.0001%, considering Phoenix... er... "Jeff Gordon Raceway" *cringe* is Harvick's personal playground, but if he does make it, regardless of how I personally feel about him, he would be by far the most deserving driver there. He won't make it though. So there you go. Mark 2015 down in the history books as the year that the chase brought a completely undeserving fluke champion to NASCAR. I'm with a lot of you, I just want this season to be over. 645. 88&4Fan posted: 11.09.2015 - 5:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ^^^That would be me racefangurl who said that. I've only been on here as a regular poster for about four months but I've read through almost every comment section from the 2013 season (mostly because they're just so great) and a lot of the 2012 and 2014 ones as well, and a bunch of driver pages. Personally I can respect almost all of the posters here with very few exceptions (coughmostpeoplewhopostasAnonymouscough) and the same thing goes for DSFF, however that being said, some of the things that the guy said were downright idiotic and it doesn't help that the two drivers that he left his dumbest comments too (well, besides Tony Stewart last summer, obviously) are my two favorites. 646. Leo posted: 11.09.2015 - 6:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 643, you just described one of the things that makes NASCAR coverage hard to follow from an outsiders point of view. Because most of the racing I watch usually has green flag pitstops or no closing the pits rule, I'm used to situations where the driver who is effectively racing for the lead might be buried down the order due to a pit stop, but still racing someone for what will become first place once the pit cycle is complete and the broadcasters understand this as well. It gets frustrating when watching a NASCAR race and seeing first and second pit a lap apart, but then instead of following the fight on the rejoin, they stay fixed on someone who is no factor in the race, but has stayed out to take the lead, often ignoring an important and potentially exciting on track battle. 647. Spen posted: 11.09.2015 - 7:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I miss DSFF. Regardless of whether I agreed with him on any given topic or not, he always gave me good food for thought. He could get a little over-the-top from time to time, but his posts always made for a good read. Especially from '08-10. In the latter days, he started going off the deep end more. But he was still fun. 648. Benjamin LordLowe posted: 11.09.2015 - 9:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It's pretty damn depressing how a once great sport like NASCAR has fallen into the depths of irrelevance & mediocrity 649. Watto posted: 11.09.2015 - 9:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Brad Keselowski - He could actually be the most deserving driver right now (assuming the inevitable happens and Harvick wins Phoenix), and that's pretty pathetic, considering how he's been overshadowed by his teammate all year long, and his only win was because NASCAR manipulated the finish." Joey has had a better season than Brad - Brad's racked up top 10s this year, but seems to be relegated to running 6th-9th for much of this year. But I do want to point out that even though he only won California because of the caution, he should have won races that he lost because of nonsense cautions, too. I think he would have won Darlington if the yellow didn't fly, and that was a great race. He probably would have won this Texas race as well without the 20ish to go caution. Truex was coming and would have made a race of it but I'm not sure that Truex had enough to win. The final caution of the race, Truex had a loose wheel and then the power steering went out with about 10 to go. I wonder if the two were related? Could a lug nut falling off knock a line off or something which could screw up the power steering? A more mechanically aware poster should be able to answer that :) 650. 88&4Fan posted: 11.09.2015 - 10:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) You do have a point there, he has had a few races (Darlington and Texas come to mind) where he had the winning car, but for a majority of the season he's hovered around 6-10th. Really sad that out of all the drivers left he is probably the most deserving though, unless Truex wins and then can prove that this year wasn't just a fluke. 651. Big Mac Fan posted: 11.09.2015 - 10:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Had Fontana been played out naturally, and that someone else won Phoenix and Homestead, I would have to think that Keselowski would set the record for most laps led in a winless season with 1094...he's either 8th or dominating this season. And while he has only one win, he does have five 2nd place finishes. 652. Big Mac Fan posted: 11.09.2015 - 10:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Mr. Popular" Although I was very skeptical of the incident at Talladega, I'm basically over that by now. The chase has created so much controversy that that incident was basically overshadowed. Currently, anyone who makes the Chase look laughable (Kevin Harvick, Jeff Gordon, Matt Kenseth, Kyle Busch, Joey Logano (by being out)) is cool in my book. 653. Big Mac Fan posted: 11.09.2015 - 11:28 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Also I want to give a huge shout out to Truex. In 2015, he has tied his season high in wins (1), broke his season high top 5's with 8 (7 was his previous best on three other occasions), broke his season high ten's with 22 (19 and then 15 were his previous highs), led 564 laps (581 is his best, only 15 short), had an average finish of 12.2, (his best is 12.1), and is almost guarenteed to finish in the top 10 in points, all on a single car team. And to think last year I was questioning if he was overrated. Boy he (thankfully) proved me wrong! Can you say career year? And one more interesting stat I've noticed: Kasey Kahne Career Average Finish: 17.4 Martin Truex, Jr. Career Average Finish: 17.6 If you were a car owner who do you think is better? The guy who wins but is extremely inconsistent or a guy who doesn't win often but produces solid finishes? 654. that e-guy posted: 11.10.2015 - 12:07 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I would like Kurt to win the title just to give a middle finger to Brian France, but after Martinsville that's more than likely not going to happen. 655. murb posted: 11.10.2015 - 12:17 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) I've never really thought of comparing Truex and Kahne before, but now I'm intrigued. With how they've run this year, I would definitely take Truex 10 times out of 10, but if we're looking at their current historical rankings, I'd have to say Kahne is still quite a bit higher. Truex will need to do a bit more to pass Kasey up in that regard (a championship this year would certainly be a major step in that direction). I do think it's interesting though that both of them have impressed the most when they have been in unorthodox ride situations. Truex had his breakout year with DEI smack dab in the middle of them beginning to implode (they were a total circus from 2007 onwards with the Jr/Teresa fiasco and then the Ginn/Ganassi mergers), and now he has had his best year ever in an underdog situation driving for a single car team based out of Colorado. And then of course Kahne had his best years right in the middle of the organizational tornado that was happening over at the Evernham/Gillet/Yates/Petty team from 2006-2009. So I guess overachieving in bad/disadvantaged ride scenarios is probably the biggest thing they have in common. Talent wise I'd say they're pretty even, and I still say Kahne probably has a decent edge on Truex historically just for the amount of races he's won. Though, again, that very well could change in a couple of weeks (actually, if Truex can win a title with Furniture Row, I think I'll definitely have to put him over Kahne historically, mainly because Kahne has never even sniffed a title, even despite being in a Hendrick car for close to five years now). 656. Watto posted: 11.10.2015 - 12:51 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) I always felt like Truex and Bowyer are two drivers who are extremely similar in talent - and we all saw Bowyer finish 2nd in points with MWR. Bowyer had a great season, but the difference between his crew chief in Brian Pattie at the time and Chad Johnston was that Pattie was much more well-rounded, better with strategy, and frankly, a better a crew chief. I hate being ruthless cause no one complains about Chad and he's probably a good guy, but the 14 car situation has simply not worked out - even before Tony had a series of unfortunate events that surely had an effect on him. Plus, we've seen substitutes in that 14 car, and it didn't run much better. Truex in his 2nd year in Cup was very comparable to his teammate, Dale Jr. He actually outfinished Jr in the points, that year. Both were having engine issues and it wasn't DEI's best year in the sport to say the least, but that's when Truex really started to adjust to Cup racing. After that, I think circumstances have really hurt him. In 2008, Truex carried DEI, they had a big penalty that took them out of Chase contention, and couldn't really recover. In 2009, Chip Ganassi took over for the team. Juan Pablo Montoya drove brand new race cars each and every week and had his best season. Truex was inherited by Ganassi, and I don't think there was much effort. Truex only ran 2 or 3 races in the newer Ganassi cars that year - one of which being Phoenix where he won the pole and finished 5th. 2010 was Truex stepping into Mikey's vacated 55 and it becoming 56. Instantly brought the NAPA car back to life. Wasn't a great season, but it was a step forward for that NAPA team. One thing that many people forget - Truex and Edwards battled for the Homestead win. It looked like a sure-win for Truex come the end of the race, and then a loose wheel sent him to the back. Heartbreaker loss. 2012 and 2013 had way too many "so close" moments for wins. Scott Miller going to MWR revitalized that team. Same with Brian Pattie. Truex had Johnston and if they didn't unload well, they never really found speed. But they had 2 really solid seasons. They lost a number of races to JGR pit crews. Atlanta and Kansas come to mind. How many times did we see that 56 out front by 7+ seconds, caution comes out, and a JGR car knocks off an insane pit stop (like they always do) and clean air holds on for the few final laps? It was crazy. Before Kurt Busch left the 78, he started to run 17th/18th as the year came to a close. The hot streak they had over the summer was behind them. Kurt did a phenomenal job with that team, though. So Truex had some awful luck in 2014 with equipment failures and wrecks and everything else, but they were only fast during certain weeks. I think this year the 78 is back to life with a fresh crew chief who really looks at the data, and Truex is showing that he's still the same driver he was in the 56. I just hope he starts to rack up a few more wins, cause he really deserves it. Sorry for my mega-post, but I really like Truex. He's clean, respectable, likeable. He doesn't act out in childish ways. Take Texas for instance. Brad misjudged a sidedraft entering turn 1 and got into him. A lot of people would've been mad but Truex didn't get all bent out of shape. He's only really gotten into it with Kyle Busch in recent memory. It was after multiple weeks in a row of run-ins with Kyle Busch, and Truex fought back at Glen and Atlanta. 657. Watto posted: 11.10.2015 - 12:57 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) would like to add Texas to the list of Races Truex should have won I believe 2 years ago. That was another sure-win that he lost on pit road. Caution came out for the 47 getting loose and sliding up the track and never spinning it. Heartbreaker stuff. So glad Truex won Pocono this year but I hope he wins more. 658. Watto posted: 11.10.2015 - 1:01 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) sorry, to correct myself - At Texas in 2013, it was the 55 who got loose which NASCAR threw a caution over. Not the 47. 659. joey2448 posted: 11.10.2015 - 1:36 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Jr, got a fair share of cheers, but the big surprise was Gordon. Not only did he get a ton of cheers, but his were at least five times louder than the 88's. Jr. better watch his back, the MPD is not a lock for him this year." I could totally see Jeff Gordon being awarded the honor of Most Popular Driver for 2015, considering guys like Darrell Waltrip won it in 1989 (due to his run-in with Rusty at that year's Winston, which turned people against Wallace) and Dale Earnhardt in 2001 (posthumously, of course). Both DW and Earnhardt were never in consideration for that award in their careers, but circumstance had other ideas for them. Gordon, who has been largely jeered against in his career for winning too much, could use the "sentimental favorite" card to win the Most Popular award. 660. Alex posted: 11.10.2015 - 6:10 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Food for thought: Kurt Busch actually made the Chase on points. Kurt would be here even if you used the original Chase format. Yeah, he missed 3 races, but he still raced in the hard way. 661. Ak47 posted: 11.10.2015 - 3:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm fairly certain either Harvick or Logano is going to win this race to go to homestead, anyone disagree? I don't think there's any way Logano doesn't get a top 2 with his incredible season on the line, and Harvick is unbeatable in 2015/Phoenix 662. Premium Doesn't Suck 62 66 94 98 posted: 11.10.2015 - 3:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsor updates: #34 Visit Dallas "Big Things Happen Here" #27 Schrock Cabinetry/Menards #42 Target/Axe Plaid #32 ZAK Products/Donate Life Texas #98 XYIENCE/Big Red 663. Ak47 posted: 11.10.2015 - 3:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This should be fairly obvious, but I meant the Phoenix race, not his race.. 664. racefangurl posted: 11.10.2015 - 4:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) 661, Harvick could finish 2nd to Joey, as has happened many time before in the course of this season. Or Harvick could have an engine failure or some other issue. 656, I kind of like Truex myself. He's a nice guy and I seem to like nice guys. Besides, he raced at Adirondack International Speedway and seems to not be a bad driver. 665. Jim Davis posted: 11.10.2015 - 5:43 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) "I don't think there's any way Logano doesn't get a top 2 with his incredible season on the line..." A top 2 does not help Logano in the slightest; he *must* win. 666. Spen posted: 11.10.2015 - 6:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Webmaster, every Cup driver who's name includes a "Jr." links to a generic Career Statistics page with nothing on it. 667. Alex posted: 11.10.2015 - 8:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well, maybe NASCAR will make Logano the 5th car at Homestead. 668. typo posted: 11.10.2015 - 8:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) :( Why does only 500 comments pop up? 669. RaceFanX posted: 11.10.2015 - 9:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The comments have a new format where the default is to only display the first 500 comments. There's a page system now where you can select going to the next page or displaying all the comments on one page at the top of the comment page. This only comes up on modern Cup race, none of the classic races have 500 or more comments to my knowledge. 670. Big Mac Fan posted: 11.10.2015 - 9:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) After Keselowski's complete domination, I wondered the number of times each current full time driver has led either more than 100 laps in a race or led 50% or more of a race. Here are the results: *This is very long so I will post it in 3 parts* Part 1 Jeff Gordon 1994 Indianapolis 1994 Rockingham 2 1995 Rockingham 1 1995 Atlanta 1 1995 Darlington 1 1995 Bristol 1 1995 Dover 1 1995 Pocono 1 1995 New Hampshire 1995 Talladega 2 1995 Dover 2 1996 Richmond 1 1996 Darlington 1 1996 Bristol 1 1996 Martinsville 1 1996 Charlotte 1 1996 Dover 1 1996 Richmond 2 1996 Dover 2 1996 Martinsville 2 1996 North Wilkesboro 2 1997 Bristol 1 1997 Martinsville 1 1997 Fontana 1997 Bristol 2 1997 Darlington 2 1997 New Hampshire 2 1998 Dover 1 1998 Michigan 1 1998 Pocono 2 1998 Indianapolis 1998 Watkins Glen 1998 Atlanta 2 1999 Atlanta 1 1999 Martinsville 1 1999 Fontana 1999 Dover 1 1999 Sonoma 1999 Watkins Glen 2000 Bristol 1 2001 Rockingham 1 2001 Atlanta 1 2001 Bristol 1 2001 Dover 1 2001 Michigan 1 2001 New Hampshire 1 2001 Pocono 2 2001 Bristol 2 2001 Darlington 2 2001 New Hampshire 2 2002 Darlington 1 2002 Bristol 2 2002 Darlington 2 2002 Kansas 2003 Bristol 1 2003 Martinsville 1 2003 New Hampshire 1 2003 Bristol 2 2003 Richmond 2 2003 Martinsville 2 2004 Martinsville 1 2004 Sonoma 2004 Indianapolis 2004 Phoenix 2004 Darlington 2005 Talladega 1 2005 Martinsville 2 2006 Martinsville 2 2007 Las Vegas 2007 Texas 1 2007 Richmond 1 2007 Watkins Glen 2007 Richmond 2 2007 Martinsville 2 2009 Martinsville 1 2009 Texas 1 2010 Las Vegas 2010 Texas 1 2010 Richmond 1 2010 Darlington 2011 Phoenix 1 2011 Bristol 2 2011 Atlanta 2011 Martinsville 2 2012 Martinsville 1 2014 Richmond 1 2014 Martinsville 2 2014 Homestead Jimmie Johnson 2002 Charlotte 1 2002 Dover 1 2002 Dover 2 2003 Charlotte 2 2004 Martinsville 1 2004 Charlotte 1 2004 Pocono 1 2004 Pocono 2 2004 Darlington 2005 Las Vegas 2004 Atlanta 1 2005 Dover 2 2006 Martinsville 1 2006 Kansas 2006 Martinsville 2 2007 Atlanta 1 2007 Martinsville 1 2007 Richmond 1 2007 Richmond 2 2007 Martinsville 2 2008 Martinsville 1 2008 Phoenix 1 2008 Fontana 2 2008 Kansas 2008 Martinsville 2 2008 Phoenix 2 2009 Dover 1 2009 Michigan 1 2009 Michigan 2 2009 Bristol 2 2009 Dover 2 2009 Fontana 2 2009 Martinsville 2 2009 Phoenix 2 2010 Phoenix 1 2010 Dover 1 2010 Sonoma 2010 Bristol 2 2010 Dover 2 2011 Bristol 1 2011 Dover 1 2011 Dover 2 2011 Kansas 2 2012 Martinsville 1 2012 Texas 1 2012 Darlington 2012 Dover 1 2012 Indianapolis 2012 Chicagoland 2012 Martinsville 2 2012 Texas 2 2013 Martinsville 1 2013 Dover 1 2013 Pocono 1 2013 Kentucky 2013 Daytona 2 2013 Dover 2 2013 Charlotte 2 2013 Martinsville 2 2013 Texas 2 2014 Fontana 2014 Martinsville 2 2014 Charlotte 1 2014 Dover 1 2014 Texas 2 2015 Texas 1 Tony Stewart 1999 Dover 1 1999 New Hampshire 1 1999 Bristol 2 1999 Richmond 2 1999 Phoenix 2000 Dover 1 2000 New Hampshire 1 2000 Bristol 2 2000 Dover 2 2000 Martinsville 2 2000 Homestead 2001 Charlotte 2 2002 Atlanta 1 2002 Martinsville 1 2003 Fontana 2003 Charlotte 2 2003 Atlanta 2 2004 Atlanta 1 2004 Dover 1 2004 Chicagoland 2005 Daytona 1 2005 Richmond 1 2005 Daytona 2 2005 New Hampshire 1 2005 Watkins Glen 2005 New Hampshire 2 2005 Martinsville 2 2006 Bristol 1 2006 Martinsville 1 2006 Daytona 2 2006 Atlanta 2 2006 Texas 2 2007 Atlanta 1 2007 Bristol 1 2007 Phoenix 1 2007 Chicagoland 2008 Bristol 1 2008 New Hampshire 1 2009 Daytona 2 2010 Atlanta 2 2010 New Hampshire 2 2011 Las Vegas 2011 Texas 2 2011 Phoenix 2 2012 Las Vegas 2012 Richmond 1 671. Big Mac Fan posted: 11.10.2015 - 9:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Part 2 Matt Kenseth 2000 Fontana 2002 Rockingham 1 2002 Richmond 2 2004 Rockingham 2004 Las Vegas 2005 Chicagoland 2005 Bristol 2 2005 Texas 2 2006 Las Vegas 2006 Bristol 1 2006 Chicagoland 2006 Bristol 2 2006 Dover 2 2007 Fontana 2007 Dover 2 2007 Homestead 2008 Dover 2 2008 Atlanta 2 2011 Texas 1 2011 Charlotte 1 2011 Bristol 2 2012 Daytona 2 2013 Kansas 1 2013 Richmond 1 2013 Talladega 1 2013 Charlotte 1 2013 Bristol 2 2013 New Hampshire 2 2013 Martinsville 2 2013 Homestead 2014 Bristol 1 2015 Michigan 2 2015 Richmond 2 2015 Kansas 2 Kyle Busch 2006 New Hampshire 1 2006 Richmond 2 2007 Martinsville 2 2007 Texas 2 2008 Atlanta 1 2008 Darlington 2008 Dover 1 2008 Sonoma 2008 Chicagoland 2008 Watkins Glen 2008 Bristol 2 2009 Daytona 1 2009 Bristol 1 2009 Charlotte 1 2009 Texas 2 2010 Phoenix 1 2010 Richmond 1 2010 Dover 1 2010 Bristol 2 2010 Charlotte 2 2011 Bristol 1 2011 Fontana 2011 Martinsville 1 2011 Richmond 1 2011 Kentucky 2011 Watkins Glen 2011 Charlotte 2 2011 Martinsville 2 2012 Kentucky 2012 Dover 2 2012 Phoenix 2 2012 Homestead 2013 Fontana 2013 Texas 1 2013 Darlington 2013 Dover 1 2015 Kentucky 2015 Bristol 2 2015 Chicagoland Kevin Harvick 2001 Bristol 1 2001 Chicagoland 2003 Dover 2 2004 Martinsville 2 2005 Bristol 1 2005 Richmond 2 2006 Richmond 1 2006 New Hampshire 2 2006 Phoenix 2 2007 Richmond 1 2011 Richmond 2 2012 Atlanta 2013 Kansas 2 2014 Phoenix 1 2014 Darlington 2014 Kansas 1 2014 Charlotte 1 2014 Atlanta 2014 New Hampshire 2 2014 Dover 2 2014 Charlotte 2 2014 Phoenix 2 2015 Atlanta 2015 Las Vegas 2015 Phoenix 1 2015 Martinsville 1 2015 Bristol 1 2015 New Hampshire 2 2015 Dover 2 Kurt Busch 2002 Fontana 2002 Martinsville 2 2002 Rockimgham 2 2002 Phoenix 2 2003 Rockingham 2 2003 Bristol 1 2003 Bristol 2 2004 Bristol 1 2004 New Hampshire 1 2004 New Hampshire 2 2004 Martinsville 2 2005 Phoenix 1 2005 Pocono 2 2005 Richmond 2 2005 Dover 2 2007 Charlotte 1 2007 Pocono 2 2009 Atlanta 1 2010 Atlanta 1 2010 Bristol 1 2010 Charlotte 1 2011 Kansas 1 2011 Sonoma 2013 New Hampshire 2 2015 Richmond 1 2015 Charlotte 1 672. Big Mac Fan posted: 11.10.2015 - 9:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Part 3 Carl Edwards 2005 Atlanta 2 2007 Bristol 2 2008 Texas 1 2008 Texas 2 2008 Homestead 2009 Pocono 1 2010 Homestead 2011 Dover 1 2011 Richmond 2 2011 Dover 2 2011 Homestead 2012 Richmond 1 2013 Phoenix 1 2013 Bristol 2 Dale Earnhardt, Jr. 2000 Texas 1 2000 Charlotte 1 2001 Texas 1 2001 Daytona 2 2001 Dover 2 2001 Atlanta 2 2002 Bristol 1 2002 Talladega 1 2002 Bristol 2 2002 Dover 2 2002 Phoenix 2003 Martinsville 1 2003 Loudon 2 2004 Martinsville 1 2004 Richmond 1 2004 Bristol 2 2004 Phoenix 2005 Atlanta 2 2007 Martinsville 1 2008 Martinsville 1 2015 Daytona 2 Denny Hamlin 2006 Pocono 2 2007 Bristol 1 2007 Martinsville 1 2007 Darlington 2008 Richmond 1 2009 Martinsville 1 2009 Richmond 1 2009 Richmond 2 2009 Martinsville 2 2010 Martinsville 1 2010 Darlington 2010 Michigan 1 2010 Richmond 2 2010 Phoenix 2 2012 New Hampshire 1 2012 Atlanta 2012 Richmond 2 2012 New Hampshire 2 2013 Bristol 1 2015 Dover 1 Greg Biffle 2004 Homestead 2015 Atlanta 1 2005 Texas 1 2005 Darlington 2005 Dover 1 2005 Phoenix 2 2006 Fontana 1 2006 Atlanta 1 2006 Phoenix 1 2006 Darlington 2008 Dover 1 2009 Darlington 2009 Kansas 2010 Texas 2 2012 Charlotte 1 Brad Keselowski 2012 Bristol 1 2012 Charlotte 2 2013 Richmond 2 2014 Richmond 1 2014 Pocono 1 2014 Kentucky 2014 New Hampshire 1 2014 Richmond 2 2015 New Hampshire 1 2015 Darlington 2015 Martinsville 2 2015 Texas 2 Ryan Newman 2002 Richmond 2 2002 New Hampshire 2 2003 Dover 1 2003 Darlington 2 2003 Richmond 2 2003 Dover 2 2004 New Hampshire 1 2004 Dover 2 2007 Dover 1 2011 New Hampshire 1 Kasey Kahne 2004 Texas 2004 Charlotte 2 2005 Richmond 1 2006 Charlotte 1 2006 Fontana 2 2006 Charlotte 2 2007 Bristol 2 2010 Atlanta 1 2010 New Hampshire 1 2011 Darlington 2013 Las Vegas 2013 Bristol 1 2013 Charlotte 1 2013 Charlotte 2 Joey Logano 2012 Bristol 2 2014 Texas 1 2014 Kansas 2 2015 Martinsville 1 2015 Pocono 2 2015 Bristol 2 2015 Charlotte 2 2015 Martinsville 2 Clint Bowyer 2007 New Hampshire 2 2010 New Hampshire 2 2012 Sonoma 2012 Martinsville 2 2013 Richmond 1 Jamie McMurray 2014 Bristol 2 Martin Truex, Jr. 2007 Dover 1 2007 Atlanta 2 2012 Kansas 1 2013 Texas 1 2015 Charlotte 1 2015 Dover 1 2015 Pocono 1 673. Sean posted: 11.10.2015 - 10:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "People say that it would be like a quarterback being injured for the first few games of a season, and then coming back to lead the team to win the Superbowl, its actually more like a team not even playing the first few games, and then going on a hot streak to make the Superbowl." The quarterback analogy is the correct one, not the 'not even playing' analogy. The #18 car was there with other drivers. At this point Kyle deserves the championship more than most of the others left. He has been driving cleaner and smoother this year than I think he ever has (best average finish he's ever had despite it being a partial season) and unlike Spen, I'm starting to think he's the present favorite simply because of JGR having the fastest cars on the superspeedways, and while Kyle and Carl both have history of choking, I believe Kyle is more likely to break that (just like I thought Will Power was more likely to break his history of choking than Helio Castroneves when they fought for the title in 2014, and I was right about that one.) Remember when Kyle took the lead from Denny Hamlin and Joey Logano at Fontana in 2013 immediately before the crash when everybody was paying attention to their feud and nobody was paying attention to him? I can easily see the same kind of thing happening here. While all the dominant drivers this year are acting like idiots, I kind of see Kyle sneaking in here now that he's completely under the radar (and he still will be at Homestead since Gordon's in the Final Four in his final race, but no way Hendrick/his car will have the 1.5 mile speed to win the title). Kyle only fails under pressure when people are actually noticing him, and since his injury he's driven better than ever. And after watching how obnoxious most of the other drivers have been, while Kyle has cleaned up his act while still having funny insightful quotes (NASCAR penalties depend on the name of the door), I think Kyle would actually be one of my preferred outcomes. If you're going to have an NFL-style playoff and make driver/quarterback analogies, which I do think is stupid, he'd be a deserving champion. And besides, he deserves one for his career accomplishments already anyway. "Brad Keselowski - He could actually be the most deserving driver right now (assuming the inevitable happens and Harvick wins Phoenix), and that's pretty pathetic, considering how he's been overshadowed by his teammate all year long, and his only win was because NASCAR manipulated the finish." On a statistical basis, certainly Harvick and Logano are by far the most deserving, regardless of what you think of their recent incidents. On a personal level, I'd certainly love to see Harvick lose out. "Had Fontana been played out naturally, and that someone else won Phoenix and Homestead, I would have to think that Keselowski would set the record for most laps led in a winless season with 1094...he's either 8th or dominating this season." Actually, no. Harry Gant led 1169 laps in a winless 1981 in fewer starts (31), although I believe Keselowski's average percent led is slightly higher since he was dominating more on superspeedways while Gant was dominating more on short tracks. "Kasey Kahne Career Average Finish: 17.4 Martin Truex, Jr. Career Average Finish: 17.6 If you were a car owner who do you think is better? The guy who wins but is extremely inconsistent or a guy who doesn't win often but produces solid finishes?" Historically, absolutely Kahne, because I think peak performance is undervalued in NASCAR (and I think winning is more important than consistency all else equal, ESPECIALLY now with a win-and-in playoff format). However based on recent history, I'd go for Truex. For me to take Truex's career over Kahne's he'd need to have a much better career average finish. "I could totally see Jeff Gordon being awarded the honor of Most Popular Driver for 2015" Only if Junior drops out of the running. I think the only reason Dale Earnhardt won in 2001 despite his death was because Bill Elliott dropped out of the running. 674. Big Mac Fan posted: 11.10.2015 - 11:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) At this point I'm all for Kyle Busch winning the title for 3 reasons: 1) He would be deserving with his season 2) It still makes the Chase look bad 3) He's cleaned up his act Win-Win! 675. The Long Shot posted: 11.10.2015 - 11:10 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Well, maybe NASCAR will make Logano the 5th car at Homestead." Wouldn't be shocked if that happens, honestly (not that much would shock me). Or maybe a rule change for next year; the non-Chase total points leader after each segment gets a free pass into the next round regardless of how the eliminations go. Which wouldn't be an awful rule, to be honest. 676. Chad's Hair Plugs posted: 11.10.2015 - 11:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Big Mac, an add on to your domination post(s) AJ Allmendinger led 143 laps at 2010 Dover 2 677. Big Mac Fan posted: 11.10.2015 - 11:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The Long Shot, If it's gotten to the point where they would have to make a rule for the points leader without the chase to advance, then there really should be no Chase in the first place. But right now if that rule was in effect, it would go to Harvick, not Logano. 678. 28DaveyAllison posted: 11.11.2015 - 2:12 am Rate this comment: (0) (2) New Trend: Name 15 drives racing right now who will NEVER win a Cup Championship! 1,2,3, go... here's my list: (In No Order) Danica Patrick David Gilliland Brett Moffit David Ragan Greg Biffle Kasey Kahne Alex Bowman Sam Hornish Jr. Trevor Bayne Ricky Stenhouse Aric Amarilo AJ Allmendinger Josh Wise Michael Annett Casey Mears (Longshot Ryan Blaney) 679. joey2448 posted: 11.11.2015 - 3:10 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Re: Post #678, the only names I don't agree with are Kasey Kahne (has so far turned into a bust, but he still likely has some good years ahead of him), Ricky Stenhouse (people said the same thing about him in the Nationwide series) and Ryan Blaney (who I believe to be one of the best of the upcoming generation of drivers). 680. Logic posted: 11.11.2015 - 3:29 am Rate this comment: (4) (1) Considering how NASCAR applied me after Martinsville, Jimmie Johnson should be suspended for the next 2 races for manipulating the Chase when he's not championship eligible. 681. Alex posted: 11.11.2015 - 5:42 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "While all the dominant drivers this year are acting like idiots, I kind of see Kyle sneaking in here now that he's completely under the radar (and he still will be at Homestead since Gordon's in the Final Four in his final race, but no way Hendrick/his car will have the 1.5 mile speed to win the title)." Not like a Hendrick just won on a 1.5 mile track or something... 682. Alex posted: 11.11.2015 - 7:10 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) **Webmaster, any chance the "Driver Rankings" page could be extended to all series covered on this site? 683. racefangurl posted: 11.11.2015 - 11:57 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) 677, Joey was leading the classic points coming into this round, which is what I think The Long Shot meant. I checked the non-Chase standings after 'Dega. 684. Ak47 posted: 11.11.2015 - 1:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Who will be the first Cup champion among the new crop of drivers? Blaney, Chase, Austin/Ty, Larson, Erik Jones, Buescher I've got my money on Blaney or Erik. I don't see Chase as a Cup champion and definitely not Larson or the Dillons. Buescher has no chance in hell 685. Chives5150 posted: 11.11.2015 - 1:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Pretty random comment, but I saw someone on campus today wearing a Bobby Pierce hoodie. Completely made my day. 686. racefangurl posted: 11.11.2015 - 1:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 678, Kasey Kahne is a longshot, not Ryan Blaney. Ryan B is amongst the best to not have a full-time Cup ride, yet. Ricky Stenhouse, Jr. and Trevor Bayne are maybes. If they stay with Roush and the problems with the team remain, they won't. Trevor has an extra if and that's if he doesn't get sick like he did Richmond week Spring 2011. 687. racefangurl posted: 11.11.2015 - 1:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 684, I feel the Dillons are long shots (at least Austin is) and C Buescher and Kyle L are maybes. I wouldn't count out Chase, Ryan B or Erik Jones. 688. 88&4Fan posted: 11.11.2015 - 2:47 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) The first of the "new crop" of drivers to win a cup will be Chase Elliott. I can see him and Erik Jones and possibly Ryan Blaney all being champions though. 15 current cup drivers who will never be champions: (must have run at least one race this year and running for cup points, sorry Timmy Hill and JJ Yeley) Ron Hornaday, Jr. Kyle Fowler TJ Bell Eddie MacDonald Mike Wallace Will Kimmel Ryan Preece Brian Vickers Michael Waltrip Reed Sorenson Alex Kennedy Michael McDowell Jeb Burton Josh Wise Michael Annett That was easy. 689. David posted: 11.11.2015 - 2:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I've got my money on Blaney or Erik. I don't see Chase as a Cup champion and definitely not Larson or the Dillons. Buescher has no chance in hell" Ryan Blaney will probably get to Cup before Erik Jones, but Jones will win his sooner in his career. Larson will take a little while to acclimate himself. 690. Big Mac Fan posted: 11.11.2015 - 3:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The up and coming drivers listed will basically be champions almost by default. The only superstars the last 10 years have been Edwards, Keselowski, Hamlin, Logano, and Kyle Busch. Once the older guys retire in the next 5-7 years (Gordon, Johnson, Kurt Busch, Biffle, Harvick, Stewart, Dale Jr., Kenseth, etc.) there will be little to almost no competition. 691. C posted: 11.11.2015 - 3:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Highest point standing finish Chase Elliott 1st 2x Erik Jones 1st 2x Ryan Blaney 1st Kyle Larson 1st Chris Buescher 55) Austin Dillon 9th Ty Dillon 17th 692. OldSchoolNascarDude1 posted: 11.11.2015 - 5:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) According to Jeff Gluck, NASCAR is asking members of the Fan Council to vote on whether or not they want a Chase to be included in the Xfinity Series next season. 693. murb posted: 11.11.2015 - 5:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "According to Jeff Gluck, NASCAR is asking members of the Fan Council to vote on whether or not they want a Chase to be included in the Xfinity Series next season." I read on Reddit yesterday that apparently one of the features of this would be banning Cup guys entirely from NXS. That was the most surprising thing I got out of it. 694. murb posted: 11.11.2015 - 5:22 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Also, Alex Bowman is running nine races in the JRM #88 NXS car next year. Good. 695. David posted: 11.11.2015 - 6:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "According to Jeff Gluck, NASCAR is asking members of the Fan Council to vote on whether or not they want a Chase to be included in the Xfinity Series next season.{" I'm worried. First, Motorsport.com runs an article saying that NASCAR is considering a Chase in the Truck Series, and now this? I think NASCAR likes what it has seen from the two years of the eliminator Chase format. This does not look good. 696. Big Mac Fan posted: 11.11.2015 - 7:30 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) If NASCAR wants to drive fans away and run one of the most successful sporting leagues into the ground because that's what they want it to be like, then so be it. Drivers don't like it (see Hamlin's comments on the Martinsville Radioactive), fans don't like it, and people are leaving. There is some good news though. Sprint is leaving after 2016 and perhaps the new sponsor would demand changes to make it better. However, I sense a CART-IRL like split coming soon if NASCAR continues to anger teams and fans alike. 697. Big Mac Fan posted: 11.11.2015 - 7:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Also, I never found the old Chase system that bad. It was at least legit when they were finding a way to crown a champion. The fact that they only used it for the Cup series proves my point. But now they have just sold their soul to ratings with this new Chase for the "Cup," which is about the racing equivalent of Sharks & Minnows. The fact that NASCAR wants to implement this for all the series is all the conformation that I need to confirm that they are just in it for the $$$. It's sad. 698. Anonymous posted: 11.11.2015 - 8:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I really think the MPD award shoukd go to Jeff Gordon this year. Its literally the only thing he's yet to win in NASCAR! 699. Watto posted: 11.11.2015 - 8:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) NASCAR won't put Joey as a 5th car at Homestead if he doesn't make it. That star treatment happened for Jeff Gordon (as far as making the Chase is concerned), but I don't see it happening for anyone else. I could see them adjusting the Chase rules, though. Being that they adjust those rules almost every year, it wouldn't exactly come as a shock. #680 (Logic): You might want to work on your comparisons, because that's a textbook false equivalency. I may not agree with NASCAR's calls all the time, but let's *actually* be logical, alright? 700. Matt Fink posted: 11.11.2015 - 8:54 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) This chase format makes me wonder what the fan base for NASCAR will be like 10 years from now. If NASCAR creates a elimination style format in the Trucks and Xfinity, then I truthfully won't have words horrid enough to describe NASCAR. In a way I feel bad for the drivers like Joey Logano who will be using this crap format for years to come. I find it hard to imagine that every driver likes the format, most of them probably just don't want a fine from NASCAR for telling the truth. I feel like the format makes winning a professional championship 50% skill, and 50% luck. In my opinion, there should be absolutely no luck involved in winning a pro racing championship. Let the best driver win the championships. My interest in NASCAR has gone from love>like. It is sad, but hopefully someday Brian France will leave and someone with some sense of how a professional racing series should be will take over and get rid of the chase format and revive the sport. 701. Benjamin LordLowe posted: 11.11.2015 - 10:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sadly NASCAR under the error of Brainless Brian France only cares about 3 things Gimmicks Glitz Greed 702. Eric posted: 11.11.2015 - 11:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Big Mac Fan, there would be a lot of big problems if there was a NASCAR/owners split. I am saying this as a person who starting watching races by watching CART. There was no true winner in the CART/IRL split and the popularity of open wheel racing isn't where it was before the split. Tony George's dream for the IRL was an all oval series using USAC silver crown/sprint cars as a feeder series. Those two parts of Tony's vision of the IRL went away years ago. CART had the better drivers in the beginning, but didn't have the biggest racing even in open wheel racing in the Indy 500. The big problem if the NASCAR owners split from NASCAR is Brian France still has most of the control over the owners due to tv contract a tire company, and the Daytona 500. The France Family owns 2 of the 4 Majors in Daytona 500 and the Southern 500. If the Owners form their own series, they can't get any event that can rival the Daytona 500. The France Family owns Richmond, Martinsville and Iowa for short tracks. The only tracks the owners can get is SMI tracks if the Smith Family decides to support the owners or any track that isn't own by the France Family. The problem with the amount of tracks not owned by the France Family is the amount stock cars can some of the tracks handle. 703. Sean posted: 11.11.2015 - 11:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yes, Eric nailed it. CART didn't have a track-owning entity like NASCAR does so their relationship to their racetracks was more tenuous and that's why a NASCAR split couldn't work. I know Bruton Smith periodically threatened to secede but not in many years and now that he's been announced as a NASCAR HoF inductee (before Smokey Yunick and Holman-Moody even made the ballot, eyeroll) he won't do anything to rock the boat, which would leave the few remaining indie tracks not owned by ISC/SMI (Dover, Indianapolis, Pocono, Road America, uh...is there anything else?) Although NASCAR had already won the IndyCar war by then, Roger Penske selling Michigan, Fontana, Rockingham, and Nazareth to ISC in 1999 essentially made it impossible for NASCAR to ever get a significant oval racing league challenger again. I'd almost be willing to live with chases in Xfinity/trucks (where I don't really care much about the title battles as it is) if they kicked the Cup drivers out. I'm surprised they're talking about doing that. 704. Big Mac Fan posted: 11.11.2015 - 11:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "one of THE most vile cold-hearted comments I've come across...well...anywhere!" Nah, I would give that to post 204 on the Tony Stewart page in a heartbeat. That is a close second, however. 705. Bertus posted: 11.12.2015 - 7:03 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) Am i horrible for wishing on Jeff Gordon winning the Nascar Cup this year with a 18th place finish, 2 laps down? 706. Tylor Thaber posted: 11.12.2015 - 8:03 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @704 No, comment 204 comes off as just a redneck living in the woods who believes that NASCAR and going to church are the only things worthwhile in life. But honestly, which comment is the most offensive matters little. I know it's weird coming from the guy who says he laughs at vile comments, and I have no explanation for that. By the way, a bit off topic, but the Truck schedule's been announced. I'll let you guess whether or not anything's been altered. 707. Smiff_2 posted: 11.12.2015 - 9:52 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Guys, there is NEVER going to be a stock car split, period. Sadly, ARCA is lucky to have lasted as long as they have (and they've been around since the 50's). Aside from NASCAR owning all of the tracks, like Sean alluded to, don't forget about the TRAC series that tried to get up and running circa 2003-2004. Now, I can't exactly remember the details of what led to their downfall, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if there was some sort of subtle subterfuge on NASCAR's part. 708. dennyfan11 posted: 11.12.2015 - 10:13 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm not happy about the new chase system being in Xfinity and Trucks. Though the elimination of cup regulars is a great idea, the chase system is flawed. It relies too much on luck, eliminates possible contenders because of one bad race, and is just gimmicky as a whole. NASCAR will add another nail in the coffin adding this. About the split, i don't think it will really work. As said, NASCAR owns most of the tracks, so it will be hard, and the CART/IRL split was bad for both parties. 709. dennyfan11 posted: 11.12.2015 - 10:22 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) As for 15 guys who will NEVER win a championship... My picks are less young guns and more veterans. I still feel that guys like Annett can have a chance with a good team. Danica Patrick- Has struggled with Hass for 3 years Casey Mears- Hasn't got a chance for a long time David Gilliland- Has been running in backmarker teams, has no ties with big ones, David Ragan- Possibly moving down to Xfinity Michael McDowell- Another guy who doesn't have much ties with big teams Sam Hornish Jr- Future ride in Jeoparady Greg Biffle- Getting older, struggling After that, i'm not sure. Most other backmarkers haven't been around long enough to tell. If they do win the championship though, great! 710. Cornys posted: 11.12.2015 - 10:31 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "According to Jeff Gluck, NASCAR is asking members of the Fan Council to vote on whether or not they want a Chase to be included in the Xfinity Series next season.{" I tried to break this news earlier here through a blog post, and people jumped on me. Sigh. 711. Big Mac Fan posted: 11.12.2015 - 10:44 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I still feel that guys like Annett can have a chance with a good team." By the way, if Bowyer is basically getting SHR equipment next year, is Annett getting it as well? 712. Scott B posted: 11.12.2015 - 11:44 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) If the Chase format comes to Xfinity and Trucks, would NASCAR be dumb enough to try to make those fields 16 drivers to match Cup? Seriously, look at the Truck standings, and start crossing off the drivers who haven't attempted all the races (unless NASCAR waives the full-time rule). Xfinity isn't quite as bad, but an 8 car field would still be more reasonable if we must have a playoff system. 713. BMan0213 posted: 11.12.2015 - 12:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well if NASCAR is asking the fans about the Chase in other series it's probably gonna happen.... I use to think the majority of the fans didn't like the Chase but the more I look around it seems to be split pretty even, you could maybe even make the case more people like it. At first I didn't get it but then it hit me. The Chase probably did bring fans into the sport. The only problem is it ran a lot of the old fans away from it, which was more than what the Chase has brought in I've said it before I feel a lot of the older fans are really only sticking around do to their favorite drivers. Once they retire I wouldn't be shocked if they left to and if that happens you're looking at the real possibility of have Xfinity race sized crowds showing up for Cup races...The sport will never "die" but it could become a fraction of what it is today, which is really sad since today it's only a fraction of what it was 10-15 years ago. 714. Ak47 posted: 11.12.2015 - 12:20 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @712 in the releases, they stated 8 trucks for the playoff (not bad), but 12 in xfinity!! Even if they knock out the Cup guys and have 20+ full time xfinity drovers, there won't be enough competitive entries to fill a 12 car chase...you'll have some Ryan Reed, Ross chastain types making it, considering Reed is tenth this year with a single top ten finish, and money to run full time competitive entries isn't just popping up out of thin air. If they're going to do it and kick out Cup drivers, I'm not totally opposed, but there is no way more than 8 drivers should be included in either Xfinity or Truck. The competition levels don't allow that. It'd be a farce having the 12th guy in xfinity run for the title with the legit contenders. That's like throwing 24 NFL teams in the playoffs and giving practically everyone a shot at the title. 715. Ak47 posted: 11.12.2015 - 12:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) More specifically, what is the purpose of the first 26 races when every JRM, Gibbs, Roush, or Childress driver will have a 7-race shoot out for the title regardless... 716. Spen posted: 11.12.2015 - 12:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Bertus: While I would love to see it happen, I don't think it would be possible. I'm usually the last person to ever suggest race rigging, but with the way that the final four were constantly up front, including Newman, who had been a contender at exactly zero non-plate races all year, makes me wonder if perhaps the final four were allowed a competitive advantage to ensure that the championship contenders would indeed be fighting for the win. The ultimate embarrassment for this system is not an undeserving champ, but for the title to be determined in an epic duel for 27th. 717. NASCARGUY posted: 11.12.2015 - 1:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hands down one of the most impressive wins of Jimmie Johnson's career. Had a solid car all day running within the top 5. But was NOT the best car. On the final restart he got going good and managed to stay on Keselowski until with 4 laps to go got a good run and managed to take the top spot and take the win. He was surely determined to win this one. With the win Jimmie Johnson took the 2015 Texas sweep, 75th career win, 5th of 2015, 3rd straight at Texas, 6th total at Texas, 4th straight fall win at Texas. 718. Cornys posted: 11.12.2015 - 2:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @713 I only pay attention because it's easily accessible, I'm familiar with it, and I LOVE auto-racing. Mark Martin was my favorite driver. Now it's Graham Rahal and Josheph Newgarden :) 719. dennyfan11 posted: 11.12.2015 - 3:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Bertus: While I would love to see it happen, I don't think it would be possible. I'm usually the last person to ever suggest race rigging, but with the way that the final four were constantly up front, including Newman, who had been a contender at exactly zero non-plate races all year, makes me wonder if perhaps the final four were allowed a competitive advantage to ensure that the championship contenders would indeed be fighting for the win. The ultimate embarrassment for this system is not an undeserving champ, but for the title to be determined in an epic duel for 27th." I highly doubt that's true. Ryan led 0 laps, and his 2nd was just a fluke. No rigging involved. 720. 23andJoe posted: 11.12.2015 - 3:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Annoyingly, only the first 500 comments will show for me for some reason... 721. David posted: 11.12.2015 - 5:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Annoyingly, only the first 500 comments will show for me for some reason..." At the top of the page, there is an option to view "Next Page", which will take you to comments 501-1000. 722. MAR posted: 11.12.2015 - 6:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) As far as a chase for the xfinity series I have no problem with it if it means banning the cup guys but I don't see how this could start next year it must be in place for 2017 when things could be more organized. I might be the only one to see this as the saving grace for the xfinity series it could lead to more rides opening up it could allow for stronger Xfinity fields and it could be a huge gain for say a Ryan Sieg or Jeremy Clements to have a chance at a championship it would give more midpack teams much needed T.V time and exposure. Yea at first it would be hard to sell to sponsors but it might actually work. It might even lead some backmarker cups teams to the xfinity series to compete for championships but who knows. As for the truck series I'm 50/50 on it but that series does need a spark but idk if it needs a chase the schedule is to short and the races are still to spread out. In cup the damn chase just needs to go away and bring back the old Winston Cup points system. 723. 23andJoe posted: 11.13.2015 - 4:23 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) ...ana, so THAT'S how it works. Thanks! 724. 88&4fan posted: 11.13.2015 - 4:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Won't be commenting much this weekend as im on a school field trip and not getting back until sunday night 725. racefangurl posted: 11.13.2015 - 4:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 714, 722, While I don't like the Cup interlopers in the Xfinity, no one outside the top-10 in that series should have a shot at championship. It's a weaker field than Cup, so anyone outside the top-10, unless it's a Landon Cassill type is probably not that good a driver. 726. racefangurl posted: 11.13.2015 - 4:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 722, how do you feel about the 48 points per race staying, but the Chase gone? 727. Watto posted: 11.14.2015 - 1:30 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) "I highly doubt that's true. Ryan led 0 laps, and his 2nd was just a fluke. No rigging involved." Ryan had 3 top 5s and 6 top 10s in the final 8 races of the season. It wasn't exactly a fluke. He was pretty consistent. There was another race or two earlier in the year that he was in the running for the win but came up short. 728. Maverick11 posted: 03.18.2016 - 1:10 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Just realized that Johnson has won the Fall Texas race 4 years in a row...talk about dominance. 729. Rich posted: 12.12.2020 - 9:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Rick Allen, Jeff Burton and Steve Letarte were the commentators. Kelli Stavast, Dave Burns, Mike Massaro and Marty Snider were the pit road reporters. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Post a comment:* Your comment may not appear immediately - all comments must be approved by the moderator. Name: Comment: