|| *Comments on the 2017 Brantley Gilbert Big Machine Brickyard 400:* View the most recent comment <#409> | Post a comment <#post> 1. Racetowin posted: 07.18.2017 - 9:37 am Rate this comment: (3) (0) YAY 41 cars, finally! 2. Danish Pie posted: 07.18.2017 - 10:04 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) #66 will be driven by Timmy Hill 3. Danish Pie posted: 07.18.2017 - 10:11 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think it's a safe bet to say that B.J. McLeod won't make the show on Sunday. That team's cars just don't have the speed. It's between the 51, 55, 66, and 83, and I say the 51 gets the bump. 4. chevyfan98 posted: 07.18.2017 - 10:22 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) #7 sponsor should say Accell Construction, not Access. 5. 95McDowellFan posted: 07.18.2017 - 10:41 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I expect either the #51 or #66 to Withdraw 6. Danish Pie posted: 07.18.2017 - 10:58 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @6 I don't think so. They'll both give it the old college try. But the 66 will probably come out on top. 7. Mile501 posted: 07.18.2017 - 11:02 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) What a far cry this is from the first Brickyard 400, when 86 cars attempted to qualify. Of course, that was a unique event that brought out many extra teams, but something of that nature couldn't even be fathomed today. 8. Scott B posted: 07.18.2017 - 11:12 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) If we had 86 entries this year, I'd be petitioning NASCAR to add a consolation race. I agree with the #51 or #66 being the most likely DNQ's. Hate to see either sent home, since the track could accommodate all 41 entries. 9. rm posted: 07.18.2017 - 11:12 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) 7, that was a combo race with Winston West, that'd be like if they added the 20 something K&N West cars today to the entry list...the second Brickyard race had "just" 50 entries since it wasn't a combination race. 10. Tide1732 posted: 07.18.2017 - 12:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Last race for BK Racing, The team is shut down after the 2017 Brickyard 400. 11. Mike posted: 07.18.2017 - 12:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @10: Is this officially confirmed? All I've seen are rumors. 12. Jeg posted: 07.18.2017 - 12:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If what Rick Ware said earlier this year is true, East Carolina University should be on the #51 this weekend 13. Windows Millennium Edition posted: 07.18.2017 - 1:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Is this officially confirmed? All I've seen are rumors." If it really is true, than I'd expect something to be announced at the start of next week. 14. Scott B posted: 07.18.2017 - 4:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) No official announcement from BK racing yet. Most believable version of the rumors would have them phasing out the #83 before the end of the season (they already skipped Sonoma). They would then run as a single car team for the rest of 2017 season with the #23, and sell off assets in the offseason. The Brickyard is a big money race, so it does make sense to use that as the cutoff point before making any big moves or announcements. 15. 95McDowellFan posted: 07.18.2017 - 5:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) According to Carl Long on Facebook, the #66 is Timmy Hill 16. Gelato101 posted: 07.18.2017 - 5:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) JAS is on the 49 truck this week, already looking for a new team when BK is gone? 17. Danish Pie posted: 07.18.2017 - 6:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 83 has withdrawn. Shows you where BK Racing is as a team. 18. 95McDowellFan posted: 07.18.2017 - 7:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wow didn't expect the #83 to Withdraw, might be the beginning of the end for BK Racing 19. Ultimate Warrior #18 posted: 07.18.2017 - 8:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well I guess this might the end of the road for BK racing. The team still sits as the 10th most valuable organization in cup but yet they accomplished virtually nothing in there history but they did give many young drivers there first real competitive shot in cup. Whitt, Dibendetto, Cassill, Bowman Lajoie, Seig, Lupton and the list goes on. 20. 23andJoe posted: 07.18.2017 - 9:30 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) #7/#9: As I understand it, the reason the 1994 was was a combination race (and thusly the before-and-after Winston West Series was renamed for 1994 as the "Winston /Transcontinental/ Series") was because NASCAR was concerned that the Indy fanbase would give a big thumbs-down if they didn't have a massively oversubscribed field and a dramatic show on Bump Day, er, second-round qualifying. So they added the West cars to the field. (Of course, in the end, only one - Mike Chase - actually made the show, but as standard for Cup/West combo races in those days, the West DNQs actually were given credit, and points, for finishing order amongst themselves. So some of the DNQ cars were "officially" second, third, fourth, fifth place finishers...) 21. Mile501 posted: 07.18.2017 - 10:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #20 - Interesting; I never knew that. After reading what you and others wrote, I looked on this website and discovered this page for the 1994 Brickyard 400 within the Winston West results: http://www.racing-reference.info/race/1994_Brickyard_400/P 22. Jonathan King posted: 07.19.2017 - 11:32 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) 83 just withdrew, probably because Sieg might not qualify his way in to the race. 23. Corey posted: 07.19.2017 - 11:49 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) They didn't think Sieg could beat the 51 or the 66? There has to be some other reason. 24. TeamDCR fan posted: 07.19.2017 - 10:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The withdrawal of the 83 may be the start of the nails being driven into the coffin for BK 25. Altracing posted: 07.20.2017 - 5:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Just wanted to tell you all that I may not be able to do my comments this weekend for Indy. My grandfather just passed away today and I'm not sure what the schedule for everything will be so I hope you all enjoy the race and if I come back you'll know 26. Danish Pie posted: 07.20.2017 - 5:20 pm Rate this comment: (5) (0) Sorry for your loss, Altracing. God Bless. 27. RaceFanX posted: 07.20.2017 - 5:25 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) May your grandfather rest in piece and here's wishing your family the best in this trying time. 28. StenhouseFan17 posted: 07.20.2017 - 7:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) East Carolina University will NOT appear on the #51 car this weekend as previously announced. That deal has been dissolved. 29. Anthony posted: 07.20.2017 - 7:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) If BK racing does go, it will just be one step closer to NASCAR's "full field" of 36 cars 30. Danish Pie posted: 07.21.2017 - 3:12 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) If BK does dissolve, I wonder what team would get the #23 charter? Every non-charter team is from a small organization, and each one has missed at least 3 races this year. (Besides BK's #83, which obviously doesn't apply.) The team that would get the charter is pretty much picking the best of a poor lot. -Two open teams, the Beard Motorsports #75 and the Gaunt Brothers #96, only planned on running the four restrictior plate races, and the 96 didn't even do THAT, not entering July Daytona. -Tommy Baldwin is the open team that has the best cars, and therefore best chances of actually running well, but they seem content with piecing together a part-time schedule with a race here and there, plus the restrictior plate races. Pretty sure they sold most of their equipment after running a full season at the end of last year to boot. -MBM and Carl Long probably wouldn't be doing themselves any favors getting a charter while only having one Cup car at their disposal, so that won't happen. Almost certainly couldn't afford it, either. That narrows it down to the 55 from Premium and Rick Ware's 51. Premium would probably be the best bet as to what team that ends up buying that charter, just because they were a team that already had a charter before selling it to Furniture Row in January, and they now have their driver for the immediate future with Gray Gaulding. However, I don't know if they'd be willing to run a full schedule, nor do I know if they'd be willing to buy the charter in the first place. They would still be tthe favorite to get it in my eyes. If Premium doesn't buy it, than thet would leave Rick Ware, who in terms of most races entered is the most deserving open team, having attempted 17 out of 20 races run so far. But anyone who watches the 51 drive around the track three seconds off the pace every Sunday would probably agree that they don't deserve a charter, and I'd be surprised if they are willing to put the little funding they have into getting one. Wouldn't be surprised if a team that is leaseing a charter this year, like TriStar, bought the charter and just fielded a 2nd team for the rest of the year. Just to have their own charter for 2018, especially with the lack of consistent top 30-level teams in need of a charter running without one now. I know this is all speculation, BK might make it to Homestead for all we know. But it really is pitiful that 36 worth a damn teams can't show up each and every week for NASCAR's premier series. I like cheering for these open teams. The little guy gets a chance to shine, and I'm a huge Carl Long fan, myself. But it's such a shame it's gotten this bad. We'd be lucky to get 38 cars a race if BK does indeed croak. 31. 23andJoe posted: 07.21.2017 - 4:51 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) >But it really is pitiful that 36 worth a damn teams can't show up each and every week for NASCAR's premier series. Unfortunatly, that's pretty much considered a feature these days, not a bug. 32. Corey posted: 07.21.2017 - 8:02 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Formula 1 has gone 22 years without a full field. Also, when was the last time an Indycar (or CART) team DNQ a race other then the Indy 500? 33. Gray Gaulding's Distant Cousin posted: 07.21.2017 - 9:13 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @30 I heard Gaunt is the leading candidate, and I would suspect GMS is in the running. 34. most1305 posted: 07.21.2017 - 9:31 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) As far as charters go, if BK shuts down or whatever, I could see the series limping through with 37-38 cars sometimes but next year, those charters will be grabbed up I am sure. I would think if you had an established team and charters were cheap, there would be several lower series teams who would take the cash grab to run 35th in some Cup races to even help their efforts in Xfinity and Trucks. I could see Nemechek doing it to help bring cash to the truck team, maybe JD Motorsports, Thorsport and we know that GMS actually plans to run a team next year. 35. JeffGordon&ChaseElliott24Fan2016 posted: 07.21.2017 - 10:09 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) The last CART race with a DNQ was at Milwaukee in 1998, and two drivers DNQ'ed there 36. 95McDowellFan posted: 07.21.2017 - 10:09 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @33 But Gaunt has only made 1 race this year, and who would their driver be? 37. JeffGordon&ChaseElliott24Fan2016 posted: 07.21.2017 - 10:10 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) And the last IndyCar race that wasn't the Indy 500 was the Chicago race in 2002 38. JeffGordon&ChaseElliott24Fan2016 posted: 07.21.2017 - 10:10 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @32, I can figure that out. Lol. It is kind of easy, since DNQ's are one of the options you can choose in the driver rankings section 39. Clint posted: 07.21.2017 - 10:41 am Rate this comment: (2) (0) The charter system was designed to provide security for race teams. The very fact that there are chartered teams shutting their doors means the system is not working. Also with the financial security they provide if a team does shut down goes out the window if they cant sell the charter if they do go belly up. Also figuring in the dwindling fields I would asses the charter system as an unmitigated disaster. No surprise on that as it was spearheaded as a means for Rob Kauffman to recoup his investment in MWR. 40. Gray Gaulding's Distant Cousin posted: 07.21.2017 - 10:50 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @37 But that doesn't list whether he was an Actual DNQ or a WD. @39 Maybe this would have been a better discussion when talking about TBR, but BKR is a mess of a team. Remember they sold the #83's charter in the offseason so they could pay David Ragan and avoid a lawsuit. This is a team that hired a driver strictly because he was the cheapest they could find (DiBenedetto)and still ended up not paying him. They are literally the scumbag version of Obaika Racing. 41. Clint posted: 07.21.2017 - 10:53 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) 40. Dont forget that they were sued by Landon Cassill for unpaid wages their first year of existence. They havent had any drivers for more than a year because they refuse to pay any of them. 42. 1995 Subaru WRX STi posted: 07.21.2017 - 12:08 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) "No surprise on that as it was spearheaded as a means for Rob Kauffman to recoup his investment in MWR." I very rarely if ever thumb up a comment but yours I did. And this quote it what I've been saying on here for a while. No one on here (or anywhere) should when Snake Oil Salesmen Extraordinaire Rob Kauffman takes the money and runs. Which I suspect he will do once gets all his money has returned. Also heard that one of the bigger teams will be done too 3 teams next year. Brian France didn't want the charter system, looks like he turning out too be right. (Never thought i'd say that before.) 43. Lucstar88 posted: 07.21.2017 - 12:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Not shocked, surprised BK Racing lasted this long, I've always heard about their drivers never getting paid. As for their charters, someone's gonna buy them, probably GMS if they either get Chevy or Toyota support (that's a rumor, it's a bidding war for support). You also have to remember some Xfinity/Truck drivers have a lot of $$$, so there will be teams that will expand to get that money, like Reed, Br. Jones, countless others. I'm personally more shocked about the truck series, only 11 drivers have done all the races so far, and if GMS moves to cup, with probably a downgrade on the truck side, that means less trucks, BUT, someone will always buy their stuff, a new team like GMS can come and buy their stuff, like GMS did to Newberry's team? 44. Matthew Tesfaye posted: 07.21.2017 - 1:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I heard Stephen Harper would form a NASCAR team in the future 45. Kevin posted: 07.21.2017 - 1:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hopefully, if it is the Stephen Harper that I researched, he can get Cameron Hayley back into truck competition and move Cayden Lapcevich up with him. 46. Canadianfan posted: 07.21.2017 - 2:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @44 The former Prime Minister of Canada where the hell did that come from. 47. Seibaru (Tylor Thaber) posted: 07.21.2017 - 2:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) What. Source please. 48. Lucstar88 posted: 07.21.2017 - 2:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That would be kinda cool. Hope this isn't just a made up story lol. 49. RaceFanX posted: 07.21.2017 - 2:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Stephen Harper's conservative party sponsored a Canadian NASCAR series entry for a few races almost a decade ago (and caught flack from the Canadian left over it citing environmental concerns). Are you sure it's not just something related to that? A Canadian Prime Minister is not who I would expect to start an American NASCAR team. Granted we've already seen weirder (Lord Paul Dryson comes to mind, quitting a high-ranking British government position to run in the ALMS). 50. Niles Y93 posted: 07.21.2017 - 3:24 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @49 Don't forget Governor Phil Scott of Vermont, who hosts, and races, the annual Vermont Governor's Cup at Thunder Road International Speedbowl. 51. Scott B posted: 07.21.2017 - 4:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I would guess GMS picks up the #23 charter. BK also has a decent race shop they could package with that, or sell to a different team looking for space. The inventory of cars is pretty much junk, they would only be useful to a field-filler team. Roush appears to be staying at two teams again in 2018, so they'll have to juggle a different charter to go out on lease or sell the #16 charter outright. I'd guess the former, since it leaves the door open to return to 3 cars when they're ready, maybe with Ryan Reed in 2019? RPM does seem to be leaning toward using both their charters in 2018, though they haven't announced a driver or sponsor package (Bubba Wallace being one likely candidate for the seat). The #10 at SHR is at risk as well. I'm not writing that off as a done deal that it won't be back, but Penske has a lot of unsold sponsorships spread out over his Cup teams at this point. 52. Scott B posted: 07.21.2017 - 5:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Tommy Baldwin is the open team that has the best cars, and therefore best chances of actually running well, but they seem content with piecing together a part-time schedule with a race here and there, plus the restrictior plate races. Pretty sure they sold most of their equipment after running a full season at the end of last year to boot." Yeah, TBR will stick with what they are doing now, just running plate races and maybe a few other select Cup dates like Loudon. Baldwin isn't interested in running full time just for the sake of it. They're also doing some short track racing outside the top 3 series. I respect their approach. 53. Corey posted: 07.21.2017 - 6:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @51 "The #10 at SHR is at risk as well. I'm not writing that off as a done deal that it won't be back, but PENSKE has a lot of unsold sponsorships spread out over his Cup teams at this point." Do you mean Stewart and/or Haas? 54. JSPorts posted: 07.21.2017 - 6:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Haas doesn't seem to be afraid of forking over money if he can find the right driver. I highly doubt he would fund it out-of-pocket for Danica to drive, but if it's a proven vet like Kenseth or a young guy that he & Tony believe in, I could see the 10 staying there next year even without sponsorship. 55. Scott B posted: 07.21.2017 - 8:03 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Corey, Yes, meant to say Stewart and Haas there. Brain freeze. 56. JSPorts posted: 07.21.2017 - 8:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I still believe Haas would be willing to fund 1 or 2 full-time entries out of his own pocket. But they need to attract more sponsorship for Bowyer or the 10 car. They may be able to do this for a few years, but this isn't sustainable long-term. 57. Maverick19 posted: 07.21.2017 - 8:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) So since I am totally confused: Is BK Racing shutting down or not? 58. 95McDowellFan posted: 07.21.2017 - 8:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @57 Just a rumor for now 59. Howard Salwasser posted: 07.21.2017 - 10:02 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Back to the action on track, with the restrictor plate being used at Indy this weekend, will we see a Big One during the race since A)Cars will have little chance to get away from the pack and B)The width of the speedway(especially on the main straightaway)? 60. Sector posted: 07.21.2017 - 10:37 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) On NASCAR.com, the article "Kyle Busch aims to snap winless 2017 at Indianapolis" stated that Kyle Busch was winless this long into the season only once before, and that was in his 2008 rookie season. 2008? Okay, ignore the Hendrick Motorsports Kyle Busch years. It's actually 2005. That site makes me stupider every single time I read something from there with how many mistakes they type up. 61. 95McDowellFan posted: 07.21.2017 - 11:06 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @59 For now plates are only on the Xfinity Cars 62. JSPorts posted: 07.21.2017 - 11:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm really interested to see how the plates work in Xfinity. I think it will either help the racing a lot or make it even worse. But if it works, that could be a future option for the Cup cars along with the road course. 63. Sector posted: 07.21.2017 - 11:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @62 my theory is, if Kyle Busch managed to pull off a dominate performance like last year, would anyone really give a positive feedback on the "restrictor plate" aspect of the race anyway? A test run in Cup would have been better in my honest opinion. 64. Mannoroth posted: 07.21.2017 - 11:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 60. Hehe, 2008 was his best Cup season and he was coming to Indianapolis with 7 wins in the bag and a chance to make it 3 in a row. 65. Corey posted: 07.22.2017 - 7:47 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @59 As 95McDowellfan mentioned, the plates are only for the Xfinity race. A) Anyways, the use of the restrictor plate does not mean that they will be pack racing. The turns are too flat. Handling will be an issue and the cars will still have to slow down to make the corner. Plus they can't use the entire width of the track at Indy like they do at Daytona and Talladega. B) Big Ones can happen anywhere, especially right after restarts. I believe there was a 6-7 car pile-up during the Cup race last year. 66. possum posted: 07.22.2017 - 9:18 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) @32 - you could just as easily say Formula 1 has gone 22 years with a full field, since during the Ecclestone era a "full field" was whatever Bernie decided it was at the start of the season. As for Indycars, the problem there is engines. Between them Ilmor (aka Chevy) and Honda only produce 22 engine sets per year, with a few extras for the 500. So it's simply not possible for someone to decide "I want to go Indycar racing" and form a team. And that is a problem - Indycar would be much better if they can find a way back to the Offy/Cosworth days, when anyone who wanted could buy a motor. 67. possum posted: 07.22.2017 - 9:22 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) @34 - that's the interesting question - what will a charter be worth at the end of this year? They sold for millions to begin with (which, as someone noted, was all to Kaufman's benefit), but it's looking very possible that at the end of the year there may be more charters on offer than there are buyers. I could actually see charters being offered for lease for 0 dollars, in the hopes that holding the charter for a year might allow selling it for a better price. 68. possum posted: 07.22.2017 - 9:28 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) @65 - I think the plates will be a disaster. Look at the last time plates were used on a flattish track(*). You would think NASCAR would have learned (but, learning from their mistakes is not NASCAR's strong point - usually it takes 3 or 4 tries before it sinks in). (* for those who don't recall: Loudon in 2000. Which, as it happens, was just noted on last weeks telecast, where Jeff Burton modestly admitted to leading every single lap of the race). 69. Corey posted: 07.22.2017 - 10:07 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) @68The plates at Loudon were just a reaction to the two deaths that had happened earlier in the year. It was a simple short term solution that still allowed them to go ahead with the race. Much like the competition caution fest at Indy in 2008. Indy is not Loudon, its turns have a much longer radius which will require a driver to keep his momentum up through the corners. Granted the racing may still be bad, but the reason behind the two tracks is quite different. @66 My point in bringing up those two series is that, we make so much about there not having a full field in the Cup series that we forget other series haven't had full fields in years. Formula 1 has been 22 years since a 26 car field and you really don't hear any complaints about it. Engines aside, what does Indycar consider a full field as far as the rule book is concerned? 70. JSPorts posted: 07.22.2017 - 10:21 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Exactly, Loudon & Indy are different tracks. Even if it doesn't work out today, I don't think it's fair to say that NASCAR "didn't learn from their mistake" that happened 17 years ago at a track 2.5 times shorter than this one. Also, I believe an IndyCar full-field would be 33 cars. Not sure if that's just at the Indy 500, but I think it would apply to everywhere else, assuming that many were actually able to go race. 71. JeffGordon&ChaseElliott24Fan2016 posted: 07.22.2017 - 12:28 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @40, it does say that on Scott Mayer's (thr driver who DNQed) driver page. If you go down to the Indycar results part of his page and click on where it says DNQ's, it shows you all of his DNQs and WD, and if it doesn't say WD, then he DNQed 72. JSPorts posted: 07.22.2017 - 12:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yeah, IndyCar has had problems with filling the field for a while. Just because it happens in other series doesn't mean it would be good for NASCAR. 73. Drakion posted: 07.22.2017 - 3:02 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Apparently Kevin Harvick's spotter had his hard card taken away after dropping a sandwich from the spotter stand during practice. 74. RaceFanX posted: 07.22.2017 - 4:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This will be the first-ever Brickyard 400 WITHOUT Jeff Gordon in the field. The 5-time Indianapolis winner was the last remaining driver to have run every prior Brickyard 400 to date, the winner of the inaugural race here back in 1994 was already scheduled to miss the 2016 race after his retirement but had come back for one last hurrah to substitute for the absent Dale Earnhardt, Jr. when he was sidelined by a concussion. 75. Tide1732 posted: 07.22.2017 - 8:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) My Top 10 Predictions for the 2017 Brickyard 400 1 Denny Hamilin 2 Jimmie Johnson 3 Erik Jones 4 Brad Keselowski 5 Kyle Busch 6 Dale Earnhardt Jr. 7 Ricky Stenhouse Jr. 8 Kyle Larson 9 Gray Gaulding 10 A.J Allmendinger 76. Windows Millennium Edition posted: 07.22.2017 - 8:36 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "9 Gray Gaulding" The day the #55 car finishes in the top 10 is the day I stop showering. 77. 95McDowellFan posted: 07.22.2017 - 9:01 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @75 I'll have whatever you're smoking 78. Anthony posted: 07.22.2017 - 9:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) this race is going to be a snoozefest 79. Sector posted: 07.22.2017 - 9:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This fourth pole is Kyle Busch's career high in a season. This also extends his Pole Award position at season's end by one pole and a 2nd place starting position. With how fast he ran the laps vs the field, will he put yet another spanking to the field two years in a row (three if we're talking just wins). 80. Sector posted: 07.22.2017 - 9:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ^Should be ?, not a . 81. 95McDowellFan posted: 07.22.2017 - 10:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #48- Jimmie Johnson to the rear (Rear Gear Change) 82. RaceFanX posted: 07.22.2017 - 10:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ex-NASCAR Busch series racer Tim Fedewa is today Kevin Harvick's spotter. He made headlines for the wrong reason when in practice leading up to this race he got his NASCAR hard card pulled when he tried to throw a sandwich to another crew member atop the spotter's stand and missed, sending it over the the rail and drawing the ire of speedway staff. NASCAR returned his hard card in time for him to be part of the action for the race. The irony that this happened to Fedewa and Harvick on a week where Harvick has the colors of Jimmie John's Sandwich Shops on his car was lost on no one. 83. Mannoroth posted: 07.23.2017 - 12:12 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) 81. That means he will either win or finish in the top 10. We have seen this before... 84. possum posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:34 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @69, 70 - there's nothing in the Indycar rulebook defining a "full field". Or in the F1 rulebook, or the NASCAR rulebook for that matter. The fans and press have taken NASCAR's limit on the maximum number of cars to start to mean "full field". F1's rulebook basically says only teams approved before the season starts may enter the race, so they always have a "full field" unless a team folds up mid-season. I don't think there's anything in Indycar's rule book about it, since they're limited by the engine suppliers anyway. The 33 cars for the 500 is a track rule, as far as I know, not a series rule. 85. possum posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:45 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @69, 70 - moving on to the other point, the reason for the plates is irrelevant (altho of course you're correct that the reasons are very different). The key point here is that both tracks have flat corners where braking on entry and throttle control on exit are critical to good performance - the only difference is at Indy it all happens 40mph or so faster. When you put the plates on, at either track, braking and throttle control suddenly become irrelevant - the driver is pretty much full throttle all way round, and couldn't spin the tires if he tried to. So it makes everyone very much the same, and when everyone is the same there's not much opportunity to pass. Now, that said, one difference at Indy that you didn't mention is drafting. As it happens, the Xfinity race wasn't as bad as I'd feared, and I put the reason for that down to the big ducts in the front bumper. Those were a surprise to me, back in May they had just spoken of "opening the brake ducts" but it turned out to be much different. I would like to see them try the ducts on the Cup cars, with no plates or other changes to the aero package, and see what happens. 86. TeamDCR fan posted: 07.23.2017 - 10:15 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) This is going to be a have the race going on one tv, but watch something else on another tv kind of day 87. Corey posted: 07.23.2017 - 10:52 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @85 You are forgetting handling. With no banking to hold the cars, handling is still a premium. And the Xfinity race showed that. There was no big pack like we typically see at Daytona and Talladega. This is what the original comment I was replying to thought. Also, I just watch some of the coverage of the 2000 Loudon race, and they were lifting from the in car audio. The turns there are just too tight to allow the car to go full throttle. 88. Altracing posted: 07.23.2017 - 2:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Just wanted to say a few thing First of all I want to thank Danish Pie and RaceFanX for sending their support to me through these last few days. Second right now I'm at my grandparents home without my laptop so I'll try to comment as best as I can for the race as long as it runs today because the wake and funeral are happening over the next two days. And finally for my pick today I'm going to go with Kevin Harvick for today's race. 89. Windows Millennium Edition posted: 07.23.2017 - 2:27 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Ryan Newman is my dark horse pick for the race. Car has had speed all weekend. 90. Windows Millennium Edition posted: 07.23.2017 - 2:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Green flag, let's go racing at Indy! 91. Altracing posted: 07.23.2017 - 2:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) We're green at Indy 92. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 2:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Busch is going for three in a row at Indy and he's out front now. 93. Windows Millennium Edition posted: 07.23.2017 - 2:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Martin Truex Jr. has caught Kevin Harvick for second. 94. Altracing posted: 07.23.2017 - 2:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Caution out for Lajoie 95. Windows Millennium Edition posted: 07.23.2017 - 2:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Considering this might be BK Racing's last start, that is not how you want to go out. 96. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 2:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Brickyard rookie Corey LaJoie spins and crashes the Dr. Pepper #23 Toyota Camry into the wall backward. The car looks a tore up and likely done for the day. LaJoie's BK Racing team has had a rough week, with some questioning if they are about to fold, so this is not what they needed. 97. Altracing posted: 07.23.2017 - 2:57 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Back half of the field comes in for pit stops they can't refuel their cars until the competition caution at lap 20 98. Windows Millennium Edition posted: 07.23.2017 - 2:58 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Oh boy, another rain delay. 99. Altracing posted: 07.23.2017 - 2:59 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) They're bringing the field down pit road due to lightning so red flag is out 100. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 3:02 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Kyle Busch has a legitimate shot at history today. No one has EVER won the Brickyard 400 or the Indy 500 three years in a row with Mark Martin being the only driver to date to win any single race here on the oval three-consecutive times, he won the IROC race here from 1998 to 2000 back when that series ran here. In the 500 Al Unser won in 1970 and 1971 then finished second in 1972. Helio Castroneeves repeated that feat with wins in 2001 and 2002 (controversially) before a second in 2003. Bill Vukovich also came close, he won the Indy 500 in 1953 and 1954 and was leading in 1955 when he was killed in a horrific accident on the backstretch, going over the outside rail. Jimmie Johnson was the only NASCAR driver to have a shot at three-peat before, winning in 2008 and 2009 but finishing 22nd in 2010. 101. TeamDCR fan posted: 07.23.2017 - 3:09 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) It's going to be an even bigger snooze fest thanks to the weather. I used to enjoy Indy. Not anymore 102. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 3:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jeff Gordon was the pre-race pace car driver today. Not a bad gig... 103. JSPorts posted: 07.23.2017 - 3:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Indy hasn't been good for a while now. If they know weather is coming, I wish they would bump up the start of the race or something so they can at least get more in before an hour or more delay. 104. Windows Millennium Edition posted: 07.23.2017 - 3:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Let's put on the rain tires and see what happens. 105. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 3:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) With the conclusions of the British Open and the Tour de France on earlier today I'm not NBC would have been pleased if they moved up the start. 106. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 3:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And here comes the rain... 107. JSPorts posted: 07.23.2017 - 3:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Come on... 108. JeffGordon24FanForever posted: 07.23.2017 - 3:43 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) According to Brian Neurdolff, it'll be 2 hours to dry the track. 109. jensenators posted: 07.23.2017 - 3:44 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) PRN just sent their radio broadcast back to the local stations, they said they will be back on air at 5:30 eastern, about 2 hours from now. 110. JeffGordon24FanForever posted: 07.23.2017 - 3:50 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Sunset at 9, one more cell may postpone this race. 111. JSPorts posted: 07.23.2017 - 4:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Last year's race took 3:17:46. Let's cut off the 12 laps and say 3 hours. If they re-start at 5:30 eastern, they could get done before the sun sets. But it'll definitely be cutting it close. If they do get it in, it will be similar to the 2013 Talladega spring race, where it was practically dark by the time the race ended. Of course, the big difference there is that Talladega racing doesn't strike similarities to watching paint dry. 112. Altracing posted: 07.23.2017 - 4:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Drivers being called back to their cars 113. JeffGordon24FanForever posted: 07.23.2017 - 4:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Now let's relive the 2013 Daytona 500 during this delay! 114. Altracing posted: 07.23.2017 - 4:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Cars back on track competition caution has been moved to lap 30 115. joey2448 posted: 07.23.2017 - 4:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Back to racing on lap 18! Officially a 1 hour, 47 minute, delay. 116. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 5:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Rowdy's still up front. Matt Kenseth is up to seventh in the Tide ride trying to channel his inner Ricky Rudd. 117. Altracing posted: 07.23.2017 - 5:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Elliott has a voltage issue 118. joey2448 posted: 07.23.2017 - 5:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Chase Elliott believes he's down a cylinder. The No. 24 Chevy is rapidly losing spots on the track. 119. Altracing posted: 07.23.2017 - 5:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Competition caution is out 120. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 5:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ryan Blaney is running fourth as the competition caution flies at Lap 30, seeking his first top-10 here at Indy. His father Dave Blaney never finished better than ninth here. 121. joey2448 posted: 07.23.2017 - 5:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Competition caution at lap 30. Including last year's race, Kyle Busch has led 179 of the last 200 laps run at the Brickyard. 122. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 5:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jamie McMurray makes an impressive pass on Kenseth, diving way low on the frontstretch. No battle for the lead yet but we've got some solid racing further back today. 123. Altracing posted: 07.23.2017 - 5:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin has some nose damage after contact on pit road 124. Altracing posted: 07.23.2017 - 5:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Elliott has blown a motor 125. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 5:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Chase Elliott's engine just grenaded. The NAPA #24 Chevrolet is headed for the sidelines. 126. joey2448 posted: 07.23.2017 - 5:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It's amazing the luck of drivers that are over-hyped headed into a race weekend. All the talk at Daytona a few weeks ago was centered around Junior running his final Daytona race, and he ends up wrecked by halfway. Today, a lot of talk was on Chase Elliott possibly breaking through and winning his first race at a track his dad Bill won at when Chase was a toddler. Now his engine is blown early. 127. Altracing posted: 07.23.2017 - 5:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Busch wins stage 1 128. Altracing posted: 07.23.2017 - 5:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Multi car crash Ragan got the worst end of that 129. joey2448 posted: 07.23.2017 - 5:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Lap 57, David Ragan, Yeley and Jeffrey Earnhardt have crashed in turns 1 and 2. Ragan's No. 38 Ford is demolished and he appears to be done for the day. Looks like Yeley got loose and tagged Ragan, who spun down to the inside of the short chute and walloped the inside wall (right where Scott Dixon landed in his spectacular crash at this year's Indy 500). 130. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 5:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) J.J. Yeley got loose and got into David Ragan, leading to both cars making contact and spinning. Jeffrey Earnhardt also got a little damage in the Hulu Streaming special. Ragan's #38 appears done but Yeley's #7 and Earnhardt's #33 should continue. 131. Wil047 posted: 07.23.2017 - 5:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) JJ Yeley runs out of talent and wrecks David Ragan 132. Altracing posted: 07.23.2017 - 5:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Some drivers pitting under this caution 133. Altracing posted: 07.23.2017 - 6:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yeley has a right from tire caution is out for debris from the tire 134. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 6:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) This is turning into a rough day for the Tommy Baldwin team. Still great to see the #7 Chevrolet out there though. 135. Altracing posted: 07.23.2017 - 6:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Erik Jones and a few others stay out and will be the new leader 136. Altracing posted: 07.23.2017 - 6:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Junior has blown up 137. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 6:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Dale Earnhardt, Jr. appears to have rear-ended someone on the restart, he's smoking heavy apparently with a busted radiator. 138. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 6:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Junebug rear ended Trevor Bayne, another car may have got him from behind. NASCAR's damage repair rules mean the #88 is done. Earnhardt gets a round of applause from the fans as he gets out of the car but he will retire without a Brickyard 400 win. 139. Altracing posted: 07.23.2017 - 6:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Blaney to the lead 140. BMan0213 posted: 07.23.2017 - 6:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Dale's bad luck this year has been f'ing insain...... Despite what people what to say the 88 team has shown top 10 speed in about half the races this year and have practically nothing to show for it. Don't get me wrong Dale isn't what he was just a few years ago, but if he was able to get the finishes he deserved he'd probably be somewhere between Joey and Clint battling for the last playoff spot on points. Instead he's 20 something in points and needs has to win (which I doubt will happen) to make the playoffs. 141. Altracing posted: 07.23.2017 - 6:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Busch back to the lead 142. Altracing posted: 07.23.2017 - 6:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Busch wins stage 2 143. Altracing posted: 07.23.2017 - 6:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Truex wins the race off pit road and will be the new leader 144. Altracing posted: 07.23.2017 - 6:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Larson has damage after his altercation with Jimmie 145. Altracing posted: 07.23.2017 - 6:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Stenhouse crashes hard in the inside wall 146. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 6:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Stenhouse spins and gets the inside wall at a good click, crashing out of 15th place. The Sunny D #17 Ford is totaled, a literal smoking wreck after the crash likely wiped out the radiator. He hit with enough force the back tires came off the ground. 147. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 6:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) KYLE BUSCH AND TRUEX CRASH IN TURN 1 ON THE RESTART!!! 148. Altracing posted: 07.23.2017 - 6:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Truex and Busch wreck for the lead 149. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 6:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle's bid for three in a row is gone and Truex's #78 is going up in flames after the crash. Both drivers are okay, their Toyota Camrys surely are not. 150. Altracing posted: 07.23.2017 - 6:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kenseth is now the leader 151. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 6:57 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Busch and Truex were side-by-side for the lead, with 49 to go, and Truex got loose. The two made contact and a big crash ensued. Those two cars, Busch especially, were so much better than everyone else today that utterly blows this race wide open. I really thought Kyle Busch had them covered today. The Skittles rainbow is going to sadly taste like defeat today. 152. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 7:00 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Ty Dillon did an exemplary job to avoid getting taken out by Busch's wrecked car. 153. racefangurl posted: 07.23.2017 - 7:00 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Even after what 138 referred to, Trevor's just ahead of Danica. So, she must be half of the racer he is, if that even. His car's not great and SHR's a top tier team, so it must be driver. She can't race like he can. 154. TeamDCR fan posted: 07.23.2017 - 7:05 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Who else thinks this just became the best Brickyard 400 in recent memory 155. John Lee Pettimore III posted: 07.23.2017 - 7:07 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Oh Carp 156. 95McDowellFan posted: 07.23.2017 - 7:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) HOLY CRAP! 157. Chris posted: 07.23.2017 - 7:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Oh that's so great. 158. JeffGordon24FanForever posted: 07.23.2017 - 7:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Too funny! ( not the fire) 159. George posted: 07.23.2017 - 7:11 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) "Who else thinks this just became the best Brickyard 400 in recent memory" * raises hand * 160. BMan0213 posted: 07.23.2017 - 7:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Really don't know what to think about that one.... Truex clearly got loose, but he's never in that position if Kyle doesn't decide he needs to race for the win with 50 to go and just let him in on the restart like the plan had been all day. 161. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 7:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Matt Kenseth is leading now. He has never won here at Indy but he's been second three times. 162. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 7:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Blaney is pitting as green flag stops begin. 163. Altracing posted: 07.23.2017 - 7:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Blaney pits for fuel 164. joey2448 posted: 07.23.2017 - 7:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kenseth winning this race would really put a cap on his career. He's won everything there is to win in NASCAR except this race. I'm sure he would love to check off this item on his crown jewel list. 165. Altracing posted: 07.23.2017 - 7:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Keselowski pits but must pit 166. Altracing posted: 07.23.2017 - 7:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I meant he leads 167. joey2448 posted: 07.23.2017 - 7:37 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) So with 14 laps to go, the focus is on Trevor Bayne, who is running fourth, and Matt Kenseth, running seventh. Bayne is trying to stretch his fuel to the finish (the other three cars ahead of him cannot make it for sure), while Kenseth pitted under green and is trying to run Bayne down. This feels like the 2011 Brickyard all over again. 168. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 7:37 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Trevor Bayne is going for it. He's in fourth and may have enough gas but Kenseth is coiming. We're got a good ole fuel mileage special... 169. Jared DiCarlo posted: 07.23.2017 - 7:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Michael McDowell must win this race 170. Jared DiCarlo posted: 07.23.2017 - 7:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bowyer spins! 171. joey2448 posted: 07.23.2017 - 7:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Terrible crash between teammates Bowyer and Kurt Busch!! Caution out with 11 laps to go, both cars on the frontstretch. 172. Altracing posted: 07.23.2017 - 7:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kurt and Bowyer crash caution with 10 to go 173. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 7:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Oh my gosh. 174. Altracing posted: 07.23.2017 - 7:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Erik Jones also involved along with McMurray 175. Altracing posted: 07.23.2017 - 7:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Red flag is out to clean up this mess 176. Jared DiCarlo posted: 07.23.2017 - 7:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Great save by Erik Jones! 177. joey2448 posted: 07.23.2017 - 7:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bowyer got loose off turn 4 in the middle of a pack of cars and slammed the inside wall, ricocheted back onto the track where he got T-boned hard by Kurt Busch. Erik Jones and Jamie McMurray also got damage. 178. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 7:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Paul Menard got loose. Clint Bowyer and Erik Jones got together after it resulting in Bowyer slamming the inside wall near the pits but the #14 ricocheted back into traffic leading to a violent crash that saw Jamie McMurray and Kurt Busch also being collect. Busch plowed into Bowyer at top speed, spinning the #14 violently around. 179. joey2448 posted: 07.23.2017 - 7:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Man, thank god Bowyer didn't impact the blunt edge of the pit road wall that separates it from the racing surface. 180. TeamDCR fan posted: 07.23.2017 - 7:45 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) This Brickyard really has gotten interesting. Hopefully everyone is alright, but this has to be the most amusing Brickyard in recent years 181. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 7:45 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) So now who is the favorite to win this? Kasey Kahne has fresh tires. Kenseth has enough fuel. Bayne, Keselowski, and Jimmie Johnson all could need to pit 182. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 7:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bowyer's wreck reminds me a lot of Arie Luyendyk's famous one here in the IROC race in 1998. 183. racefangurl posted: 07.23.2017 - 7:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 155, want some carp? You could have carp sushi. LOL 184. Altracing posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Red flag has been lifted 185. Altracing posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kahne and Newman stayed out and will be the leaders 186. joey2448 posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kasey Kahne and Ryan Newman stayed out and will restart 1-2 with seven laps to go! Brad Keselowski is first driver that pitted in third. 187. Altracing posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Larson into the wall caution 188. joey2448 posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Larson gets wrecked on the frontstretch and is on fire! Another fire today! Kasey Kahne leads with Keselowski second and Jimmie Johnson third. 189. JeffGordon24FanForever posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:10 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Here's your chance to win Kasey Kahne 190. JeffGordon24FanForever posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well darkness is slowly approaching. 191. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:11 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Kahne was giving it everything that #5 and he beat Brad and Jimmie on the restart. Ryan Newman faded out of contention. Trevor Bayne is still fourth. 192. Altracing posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ty just about ran Larson into that inside wall to cause that 193. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) We still have like an 60-70 minutes of usable daylight. We'll get it in. 194. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) One of the jet dryers spits a little flame. 195. joey2448 posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) We will have a green-white-checkered restart with two laps to go (not an official overtime restart because this is scheduled to go the advertised distance). 196. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well, that wasn't going to work! 197. Altracing posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Johnson wrecks caution is out we will have a green white checkered finish 198. joey2448 posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) HOLY SMOKES!! Jimmie, Brad and Kasey all tried running 3-wide for the win into turn 3 and the 48 ends up on the bad end with a crash! Wild stuff! 199. VPnesquick posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This is a great race 200. JeffGordon24FanForever posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) C'mon Kahne get the horse. 201. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Johnson's motor started blowing up on the restart and yet he still stayed in it. Keselowski was passing Kahne high but Johnson took a shot at it to the inside, giving off more steam than an old-time locomotive, going into turn 3 then lost it and crashed out. Kudos to Bayne who is still third and dodged Johnson's crashing car. 202. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Michael McDowell is straight up fifth in this race. Wow. 203. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:20 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Where did Johnson get the power for that move with a car that was losing the motor. I've never seen a guy push that close to the limit battling other cars that hard with a sick car. 204. 1995 Subaru WRX STi posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:21 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Kahne, Brad and Johnson ALL went for it. THAT is racing. 205. Blu Metz posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Looks like Neuenberger will be in the #266 in Pocono. East coast driver with sponsorship from CommerceFirst 206. JeffGordon24FanForever posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Matty Ice 12th! 207. Altracing posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) They wreck again at the start 208. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) We get a restart and everyone stacks up with Bayne getting wrecked. NO! 209. Mamorese posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (4) Worst series on the planet, bar none. 210. George posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Dammit, Bayne & Blaney involved. 211. Incognito posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Brickyard 500, anyone? 212. Altracing posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Red flag again 213. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Blaney's in it, Almirola is in it. McDowall got squished into the wall. Ty Dillon, Joey Gase, and Gray Gaulding all involved. Cole Whitt, and his one-off Moen sponsorship, missed the pileup. 214. joey2448 posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well this is just plain ugly now. What a fustercluck. 215. Tide1732 posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) BK Wins now, Is over. 216. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) What was all that about "NASCAR racing at Indy sucks." However this ends we're getting a wild classic. 217. Altracing posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:27 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Keselowski is now the leader 218. Nucl3ar Wa4le posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And the race is still not done. This race has now lasted almost 5 hours. Ridiculous 219. Raheem posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @215 I certainly hope so. 220. 1995 Subaru WRX STi posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Restart games caused that. 221. TeamDCR fan posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hopefully that wasn't the car Cope was gonna drive this weekend in Pocono. This is turning into the Southern 500 from 2015. 222. joey2448 posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wow, Brad Keselowski has been terrible today, but may just end up winning this thing. His car has been ill-handling all day, but pit strategy and an abundance of late-race cautions have jumbled up the field and kept Brad in it. 223. Corey posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Timmy Hill's getting a Top 20 finish. 224. Francesco Bernoulli posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) WHAT IS HAPPENING?!?!?!?! 225. RaceFan1995 posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The amount of attrition in this race is TOO DAMN HIGH! 226. Mamorese posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:33 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Wrecking half the field doesn't make the race "a classic" 227. John posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) loving this race but this makes me nervous about double file restarts @ Homestead especially after last year wish final 4 was 3 races 228. jensenators posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @223, It'll be a lead lap finish too since he gets the lucky dog with this caution. 229. George posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Coming up in a few minutes from race control: 1. #2 did not jump the restart (even tho he did) and is scored as the leader. 2. It's too dark to restart, race is over, #2 wins. FU, Kasey Kahne. 230. JeffGordon24FanForever posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @223 Timmah! Living a lie! 231. 52 posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Double file restarts shouldn't exist 232. Corey posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) We had 10 to go an hour ago. 233. JeffGordon24FanForever posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think this will be the final restart 234. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:36 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) "Wrecking half the field" indeed doesn't make a race a classic...but surprise twists, racers giving everything they have, and a multitude of strategies all having moments of brilliance and success do (How many different drivers have seemingly had the race in hand today?). 235. joey2448 posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:37 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) This feels like one of those football games that the final two minutes lasts longer than the first 58, lol. 236. MJM posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @220 I actually blame the NASCAR Safety Workers for not cleaning up the track good enough more than the "restart games", but hey, what do you expect when there was an hour long rain delay early in the race. 237. Incognito posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Beginning to think that this race is over... 238. George Costanza posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) When is the last time a race has ended due to darkness or curfew? I can't recall the last time. 239. 95McDowellFan posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Why is this cleanup taking so long? 240. George posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) So that it will be impossible to restart the race. 241. Nucl3ar Wa4le posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Finally the cars are rolling. 242. joey2448 posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 24-minute red flag for the cleanup. 243. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @238 Greg Biffle's fall win at Kansas in 2010 comes to mind before that track had lights. 244. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ryan Newman is back up to fourth with all the chaos and right back in the fight. 245. Nucl3ar Wa4le posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hold on folks. Another crazy restart coming. Green flag 246. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Green, let's settle this! 247. Nucl3ar Wa4le posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yet another wreck. 248. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin blows a tire, sets off a multi-car crash, and the yellow comes out just after Kahne made it past the overtime line. Kasey Kahne wins the Brickyard 400. 249. Altracing posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kahne has won it 250. Corey posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm curious if NASCAR waited for him to cross to throw the caution purely because of darkness. 251. Mamorese posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (3) Lmao what a joke. Good job nascar 252. JeffGordon24FanForever posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That guy can still drive, nice job 253. JeffGordon24FanForever posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jesus Christ 254. Windows Millennium Edition posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Kasey Kahne wins the Brickyard 400! Hell yeah! 255. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The cheers from the crowd are audible as he pulls off the victory. This is Kahne's first win since Atlanta back in the fall of 2014. 256. MJM posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:57 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Holy Moly! Matt DiBenedetto finished in 8th! (according to NASCAR.com Live Leaderboard) 257. Incognito posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:57 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) So happy for Kahne. Maybe now the armchair crew chiefs will lay off of him for a little while. 258. George posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) OK, who the hell was behind the wheel of the #5 on that restart, LOL? Congrats Kasey, you earned it. 259. Sector posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:57 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Honestly, it looks like they stalled the yellow so they can get to the restart line lol 260. Kevin posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That is a huge win for Kahne. He needed that arguably more than any other driver in this field. 261. Karn Evil 9 posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ...At least Kahne won. That's all I can say about this year's trip to Indy. 262. joey2448 posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Pretty sure NASCAR waited for Kahne to reach the overtime line before throwing the yellow, lol, and I don't blame em! 263. George posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:59 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Doesn't matter one damn bit whether NASCAR waited to throw the yellow until Kahne crossed the OT line -- he was leading and there was never going to be another restart. Either way, he wins it. 264. jensenators posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Dibenedetto 8th, whitt 12th, timmy hill 14th. It's like a restrictor plate finish. 265. 95McDowellFan posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Timmy Hill 14th?????? 266. JeffGordon24FanForever posted: 07.23.2017 - 8:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Top ten for Matt Dibenedetto! 267. Windows Millennium Edition posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Timmy Hill finishes 14th for MBM Motorsports. Matt DiBenedetto, Chris Buescher, and AJ Allmendinger snag top 10 finishes as well. 268. 95McDowellFan posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Matt Dibenedetto has more Top 10's then Danica this season, ha ha. 269. JeffGordon24FanForever posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Danica still can't get a top ten, Timmy Hill is probably better than her too. 270. Ultimate Warrior #18 posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wow very interesting race Kahne won I guess I'm happy for him. Dibendetto 8th and Timmy Hill 14th wow great runs. 271. Lucstar88 posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) No way with this cleaning crew, they would've restart. Mercy killing. This race was bad in racing terms, but it got really goofy, and was better than I expected. 272. Chuck1 posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Cutting away before the Victory Lane interview reminds me of the 80s when CBS covered the Daytona 500 and sometimes they would have to cut away to go to the NBA All-Star Game. I specifically remember the 1986 Daytona 500 as soon as Geoff Bodine crossed the finish line Ken Squier signed off. 273. JeffGordon24FanForever posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kahne is in pain 274. joey2448 posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kasey looks absolutely gassed. I thought he was gonna pass out while talking to NBC. 275. BMan0213 posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:06 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) I'm happy for Kasey, he earned that win with the restart he got. That being said I'm disgusted with how that ended. Denny was wrecking several hundred yards before Kasey hit the OT line. They clearly waited for Kasey to cross the line just so they could get the race over with. It's the same crap they pulled at Daytona when Byron won the Xfinity race there a few weeks ago. I truely feel the lack of sunlight played a roll in it but just damn.... NASCAR is gonna NASCAR I guess.... 276. Maverick19 posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:07 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) ...what did I just watch? 277. JeffGordon24FanForever posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:07 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Chase Elliott and McMurray on the Chase hotseat 278. John posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:11 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Danica Patrick's last 6 finishes not counting races she crashed in. 10, 16, 17, 15, 13, 11 279. Windows Millennium Edition posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:13 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) This will go down as the win that saved Kasey Kahne's career. Got to feel good for a guy that has struggled all of these years with crap luck and self esteem issues. I cannot believe that he held on that final restart, he drove the wheels off of that car to pass Keselowski to earn that win. The overtime line proves to be useless once again, but NASCAR probably just wanted to end the race due to impending darkness. They just sped up the inevitable. Savor this win Kasey. You drove one hell of a race. 280. Kevin posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The Sonoma, Daytona, New Hampshire races were solid to very good runs for Danica. Today was not. 281. JSPorts posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:15 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) I don't care, darkness or whatever, I don't care who's winning, that was a freaking awful end to that race. NASCAR clearly manipulated the ending and gave the win to Kahne. I'm happy for him, but that right there is why people are being driven away from this sport every year. 282. Pickles posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:17 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) Great job by Kasey, he drove an amazing race and had maybe the restart of the year. However, that was an excruciating race, more exciting than years past, but just way too much stupid driving. NACASR promotes these guys as the best drivers in the world; I'm seriously doubting that after this performance. Also, I think Indy's time in NASCAR might be coming to an end seeing all those empty seats. As they proved with North Wilkesboro, NASCAR ain't much for sentimental value if they can't put butts in seats. 283. Windows Millennium Edition posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:17 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) How about Daniel Suarez? Sneaks his way to another top 10 finish. 284. Maverick19 posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:17 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) @281 It would be totally dark if they kept going, and this was a race you just wanted to see end. If anyone, blame Hamlin for staying out on track with a damaged race car. 285. Nucl3ar Wa4le posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsor updates #1 - Cessna / McDonald's #5 - Farmer's Insurance #21 - Quick Lane 'Trading One Uniform for Another' #37 - Clorox / Scott Products / Dawn #41 - Monster Energy / Haas Automation #42 - Target / Coca-Cola #47 - Kroger ClickList / Cheerios / Hellmann's 286. JSPorts posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:19 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) I don't care! Don't manipulate the end of the damn race! You people need to quit making excuses for NASCAR. They could've thrown the yellow and then made a judgment call on the darkness issue, it could've ended due to darkness under yellow, sure, but who knows what could've happened. 287. TeamDCR fan posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Timmy Hill in 14th? Is this real life? 288. Sector posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:22 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I don't care who won, Brad or Kasey, but in the end, this put Joey Logano in an even worse situation than yesterday. As soon as Clint Bowyer wrecked, Joey Logano was gaining on that bubble spot. That won't matter anymore, since Kasey Kahne eliminated a spot on points and now Joey is more pressure to deal with. I would like to see Joey miss it, specifically because it'll be an interesting story after scoring the second most points three years in a row only to be this far behind in the standings following those three. Congrats to Kasey Kahne. I always felt he was pretty solid here and was great two times before when he led 40 & 70 laps in the past. I think this was destined to happen with him winning at Indianapolis. Penske Racing will have to wait another year to win his first Brickyard 400 win. 289. George posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:22 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) "Could've ended" because of darkness??? Are you serious? Like there's some way NASCAR would do the fastest cleanup in recorded history and have one more restart? The last wreck occurred with about 30 seconds to go until sundown. Anyone who thinks the outcome would have been any different whether they waved the yellow before Kahne got to the line or not is an idiot, but go ahead and cry if you need to. 290. Joe posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:23 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Why was Landon Cassill parked? 291. BMan0213 posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @284 NASCAR still shouldn't have waited to throw the flag. I'm sure if they threw it before the line then called the race for darkness people would have understood. Waiting to throw the yellow like they did looks way worse IMO. 292. 8rock 8eard 8logspot posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:24 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Timmy Hill 14th Matt DeB 8th Twilight Zone... 293. Gray Gaulding's Distant Cousin posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:25 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) @290 Him and his team refused to adhere a black flag given to him on the lap 162 restart. 294. Sector posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Anyone even remember the fall Kansas race back in 2007 when Greg Biffle won? 295. Windows Millennium Edition posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsor updates: #66 MBM Motorsports #83 BK Racing Graphics 296. Thomas posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (5) Total B.S. by NASCAR. It was dark enough they never should have attempted that last restart after the red flag. And people wonder why NASCAR is losing fans in droves. 297. BMan0213 posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @289 I'm pretty sure Indy is in the central time zone. NBC said sun set was at like 9 local time. It's currently 8:30 if I'm right about the time zone. So either NBC was wrong about the sunset or they still had an hour to end the race. Either way they weren't 30 seconds from the sun going down. 298. StenhouseFan17 posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsors: #32 - Anest Iwata/CorvetteParts.net (AI was on the hood) #37 - Clorox/Dawn #47 - Kroger ClickList/Cheerios/Hellmann's #66 - CrashClaimsR.us #42 - Target/Coca-Cola #77 - Sport Clips Haircuts 299. Anonymous posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @277 Indeed and it pisses me off because they've had a solid season as well as Bowyer. Kenseth has also been fast lately. These drivers have been much more competitive than Dillon, Newman or Kahne but they haven't been able to take as many risks with the strategy most of the time. 300. Corey posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:30 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Indianpolis is on the western edge of the Eastern time zone. 301. Gray Gaulding's Distant Cousin posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) SPONSOR Updates #14 Mobil1 / Rush Truck Centers "expect more" #66 crashclaimsr.us / Timmy Hill's 200th Start 302. Corey posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @291 I see no difference. Whether they called the race or waited until he crossed the line, we know they did it due to darkness. 303. Maverick19 posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @297, no it's 9:30 Indianapolis time right now. Sun setted 25 minutes ago. 304. Drakion posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:33 pm Rate this comment: (3) (2) Seriously will some of you quite crying....for more an hour they tried to get the last ten laps done. I don't blame them at all for ending the race when they did, there was little sunlight left and we didn't need another restart and more wrecked cars...over half the freaking field was out of the race already. I swear some of you like to complain for the sake of complaining........ 305. Joe posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Almost certain Indy and surrounding cities like speedway don't observe Daylight savings. On of the few places in the US.it gets light a little earlier in the morning and darkj earlier in the evening 306. 1963 posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Congratulations to Kasey Kahne, my favorite driver! 307. Archie posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:40 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Sundown in Indianapolis: 9:06 PM Last wreck occurred: 8:55 PM Even assuming sufficient light exists all the way up to sundown, there's absolutely no way that race restarts even if NASCAR somehow achieves an unusually quick cleanup. 308. Eric posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This was one crazy Brickyard 400. The carnage I saw was one I thought I was seeing a short track race or a restrictor plate race at Daytona and Talladega for that matter. After seeing this race, I don't want to known how wacky the 2018 Brickyard 400 top 10 would be with a restrictor plate. I'll be waiting for end of the Richmond race to comment about the chase format. 309. Joe posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Never mind. The law changed in 2006 when certain counties were moved to Central time and now the whole state observes DST. Learn something new everyday. 310. John Lee Pettimore III posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kahne looks worn out. He needs some fluids. Biggest win of his career. He had to dig deep for this one. Awesome. Anyone who thinks Kasey can't drive a race car -doesn't know a thing about NASCAR. 311. Scott B posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And because nothing else about this race makes sense, the 4th, 5th and 6th place finishers all get more points than the race winner. 312. Scott B posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Both JTG-Daugherty teams cars finish in the top 10. 313. David posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Biggest winner today, Kahne or Archie St. Hilarie's bank account? 314. BMan0213 posted: 07.23.2017 - 9:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Well with time zone thing cleared up now that makes this mess a little easier to swallow... still think NASCAR should have thrown the yellow before the line then just called it if they felt it was too dark. Waiting to throw the yellow like they did will always look worse 315. 33kalam posted: 07.23.2017 - 10:12 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Top 15 finish for Timmy Hill 316. 1995 Subaru WRX STi posted: 07.23.2017 - 10:17 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) "If anyone, blame Hamlin for staying out on track with a damaged race car." This. 317. Windows Millennium Edition posted: 07.23.2017 - 10:35 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Biggest winner today, Kahne or Archie St. Hilarie's bank account?" Is there an option for both? 318. Eric posted: 07.23.2017 - 10:36 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) I think Kasey Kahne is the bigger winner over Archie St. Hilarie's bank account. What Matt did for Archie St. Hilarie was giving him the 2nd highest amount of money a race this year. The highest was at the Daytona 500 this year. I do think the 32 car's bank account is going be higher next season when they add restrictor plates to the cup cars for IMS What this race did is more teams being attracted to Kasey Kahne if Hendrick lets him go. I also think this win could caused more teams to sponsor Kasey. 319. JSPorts posted: 07.23.2017 - 10:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (4) I really don't think this race actually does much for teams in terms of raising Kahne's attractiveness. It's not like he went out there and dominated the race, he won because of a lucky (not even good) pit call and NASCAR manipulation. I bet if the 48 or 78 had won under these circumstances, people would be all upset about NASCAR "fixing races" so those cars can win. On another note, this may have been one of the first times in my life I've actually felt sorry for Kyle Busch. He's had tough luck this year, and this is his place to dominate. He expected a win, he had the best car, he was dominating, and then in a racing incident he & the other best car got taken out. Truex took the blame, as he should have, but you have to feel a little bad for Kyle. 320. Sector posted: 07.23.2017 - 11:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I do feel bad for Kyle. He'll just have to keep trying and not let it get to him. I'm curious as if he'll finally win one BEFORE the Chase, eh, Playoffs starts. 321. Incognito posted: 07.23.2017 - 11:24 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) "Truex took the blame, as he should have, but you have to feel a little bad for Kyle." I don't have to, and I don't. 322. rm posted: 07.23.2017 - 11:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gray Gaulding got caught up in that late race restart incident and crashed out yet still recorded the best finish for the 55 car this year, of course. Reed Sorenson in the July Daytona race was the only other time the 55 finished in the top 30, and if Gaulding would have been able to finish it would have been the 55's first lead lap finish of the year. Gaulding wound up 5 laps down; the closest the 55 has been to the lead lap so far this season was Tommy Regan finishing 3 laps down at Sonoma. 323. Gray Gaulding's Distant Cousin posted: 07.23.2017 - 11:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Shouldn't the #13 be listed as an accident in Status? 324. Danish Pie posted: 07.23.2017 - 11:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @319 You can't convince me that if the caution hadn't come out, Kahne wouldn't have won the race. He had too good of a restart and too much of a jump on the pack for anyone to catch him and pass him. Was there strategy and luck involved in this win? Yeah. But you could say that about 75% of the races in NASCAR history. It took talent for Kahne to pull that win out on the final restart, and it shows that if you put him in the right position, Kasey can still get it done. 325. Danish Pie posted: 07.23.2017 - 11:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @323 He might have limped his way across the finish line at the end. That would count as a finish. 326. DB1995 posted: 07.24.2017 - 12:32 am Rate this comment: (3) (1) Doesn't matter if Kahne was going to inevitably win or not, the caution should have come out, then declare Kahne the winner due to darkness. Letting NASCAR slide by with manipulating the race this time would mean that in the future it's perfectly fine to do this even at a track with lights just because "they're ready to end the race". They need to be consistent and do things right. Another note, this win probably bought Kasey a few more years in the 5 car. 327. racefangurl posted: 07.24.2017 - 12:58 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) 300, I've been told the time zone line for EST and CST's the Indiana/Illinois state border. The only states that cross such lines are long ones east-west, like Kentucky or Tennessee. 328. Mannoroth posted: 07.24.2017 - 1:40 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Busch is the exact opposite of Jimmie Johnson as far as luck is concerned. Johnson doesn't care about any bad luck or discussions when he's gonna win - he just simply goes out there and get a couple of wins when it's necessary like it's a piece of cake, because according to his logic, only the end of the race matters, so just be there. So I'm not really surprised he's weak again during the summer with 3 wins in the bag... Kyle Busch is one of the best cars in almost every race - he leads laps, gets top 10 finishes and fights for the win. But when it's neccesary to get a win, he can't do that. No matter how hard he tries, he can't make it (and it doesn't happen across his entire career, it's all in one year). And this is not for the first time in his career that he just can't get a win he needs. So if there are 4 other first-time winners this season, Kyle can't make the Chase despite being 230 points above the cutline. That'd be really stupid, because win isn't everything and all that weak "leeches" like Dillon, Kahne, Newman, Stenhouse Jr., Kurt Busch or even Blaney will be out after the first or second round... 329. Sector posted: 07.24.2017 - 5:22 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Anyone know of any other instances in any Motorsports that a driver has led 1,000 laps led in a single season and has yet to score a win? Kyle Busch has done so following this race, leading 87 laps at the 2017 Brickyard 400 to 1,040 total laps led in the 2017 season and is still winless. 330. NewJack posted: 07.24.2017 - 5:49 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) @329 I believe Harry Gant led 1100+ laps in 1981 without winning. That was the most recent I could find. Jeff Gordon led 950+ in 2010. 331. Anthony posted: 07.24.2017 - 7:37 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) You know its a wreckfest when Timmy Hill gets a 14th place 332. robert posted: 07.24.2017 - 7:37 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I I I Indiana is on eastern time. up until quite a few years ago they stayed on standard time all year.except for nw Indiana up by Chicago which is on central time. Thank NBC for the late start time. Haha. 333. Rwr posted: 07.24.2017 - 7:37 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Like said DW "I never seen this in my life" especially at Indy 334. Wil047 posted: 07.24.2017 - 7:37 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @326 Bought Kahne a few more years in the 5 car? Come on. Maybe this'll let Kahne drive the 5 next year, but there's approximately a 0% chance he's around at HMS any longer. He ran in the mid teens for the majority of the day and nailed the restart late, but didn't put on a dominating performance that will erase the last 36 months of stinkage. Especially with Byron looking more ready by the day, Kahne's days at Hendrick are quite numbered. However, this win will definitely strengthen his resume for other open seats this offseason or next. 335. Damon posted: 07.24.2017 - 7:51 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) 330, Correct on Harry Gant in 1981 336. Corey posted: 07.24.2017 - 8:27 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @290 I heard that he was driving under the red flag for the Lap 162 caution. 337. RaceFanX posted: 07.24.2017 - 8:32 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) Timmy Hill gets three Lucky Dogs, keeps his nose clean, and brings Carl Long's #66 Chevrolet home in the top-15. That's a very impressive run for that team and a beautiful way to celebrate his 200th Cup start across all three of NASCAR's top tier series. 338. most1305 posted: 07.24.2017 - 9:19 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) SO, Kasey I think bought his 2018 ride with this win, but let's not get ahead of ourselves, he has not been good this year, this will get him in the playoffs but I don't expect much. Still though, glad to see him get a win, it's been depressing seeing the 5 car finish 24th every race. This is actually a good problem for Rick to have, he can now keep Kasey around for 2018 and see if he gets better and/or William Byron actually pans out. I know I know, Byron is good, but so was Casey Atwood and many others. Let's not rush him up to Cup. He's been solid but he has also driven great equipment. Putting him in that 5 car is a stretch for 2018. 339. nsd posted: 07.24.2017 - 10:11 am Rate this comment: (2) (3) 1. This is why every track should have lights. This isn't 1987. There's too much money and playoff spots at stake for a race to even considered being called, or stopped before the checkers fall. 2. Yes, there wasn't going to be another restart, but it's obvious NASCAR didn't want another one. So you royally pissed off fans of the cars behind Kasey, oh and one driver that desperately needs a win to replace the tainted one he has. 3. NASCAR needs to say bye to Indy. It's amazing the track can fill up for the Indy 500, an increasingly meaningless event in a circuit fewer people watch, but for some reason, NASCAR in the middle of the playoff hunt can't be sold? Track looks so bad and embarrassing with whole sections empty. Would wager there were 30,000 left by the end, and that's being generous. 4. Replace Indy with...Talladega, on SATURDAY NIGHT. So create a July schedule of three Sat. night races in a row (Daytona, Kentucky, Talladega), then travel north to New Hampshire, Pocono, Watkins Glen. Who's with me?? Yes that would give NBC 2 of the 3 'Dega races, but Fox has the Daytona 500. I think that's a pretty fair balance. 340. 95McDowellFan posted: 07.24.2017 - 10:11 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) Brad Keselowski now has a top 5 at every track 341. JSPorts posted: 07.24.2017 - 10:18 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Daniel Suarez will be on NASCAR America on Wednesday at the Hall of Fame. The previous two guests they've had who raced the week before (Almirola was also on before his comeback) won the race. So that streak is now snapped. 342. RaceFanX posted: 07.24.2017 - 10:36 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @339 They USED to run at Talladega in July and it was WAY too hot to handle, something even moving to a night race likely wouldn't solve. Lighting a track like that is also a momental undertaking and the track likely doesn't have enough events to justify it, unlike Daytona Talladega hasn't had a road racing endurance race since the 1970s and doesn't have any exhibition races (Duels, Clash, etc.) to also help bring in the gate money. Daytona's lighting project was the largest in sports history until lights were added to a few Middle Eastern road courses (Doha, Yas Marina) the late 2000s. 343. most1305 posted: 07.24.2017 - 10:38 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Dale on NBC in 2018, I hate this move. I actually like the booth as it is even though Steve Letarte is bias and wears HMS underwear all day. Dale is a nice guy and down to earth but he is a marble mouth for sure. So we have Letarte and Dale, HMS reunion, on Fox we have DW on his HMS love-fest and Gordon talking about Chase all day, ughhhhhhh. I actually do like NBC coverage so we will see what happens, they show things that need shown, yesterday my wife learned what bump stops were, Fox would have never explained that! 344. Maverick19 posted: 07.24.2017 - 11:03 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) @329 Harry Gant led 1169 laps in 1982 and had no victories. He would finally win his first career race in 1983. 345. Maverick19 posted: 07.24.2017 - 11:04 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) I'm sorry, 1981 and his first win in 1982. 346. Sector posted: 07.24.2017 - 11:48 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) So are only Harry Gant and Kyle Busch the only ones to go winless after leading 1K total laps? That's an interesting couple of drivers in their own elite category if you ask me. If only Jeff Gordon led just a few more laps in 2010... 347. Josh posted: 07.24.2017 - 1:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 339, RaceFanX is right, they used to run Talladega's second race at the end of July, which, along with the late February date at Richmond that was in effect until the early 90s, may have been the worst combination of race location and date from a weather perspective in the history of the sport. Not only was there the blazing Deep South heat to contend with, but also the inevitable afternoon pop up showers that develop due to the severe humidity. At least with the July 4 day race at Daytona they started it in the morning to lessen the chance of a shower disrupting the event. I don't think every track should have lights; rather, just start the races earlier. Some time between 12-1:30, even in the summer. That gives plenty of time to get the races in, should there be 1, even 2 heavy delays, and makes for a slicker track surface, putting the drivers up on the wheel more and increasing the chance for better, more unpredictable racing, instead of the frequent night races at the 1.5s where it looks like the entire field is running on rails. The lights in that case can then serve as an insurance policy to get the race in on that day. I do agree that Indy needs to be scrapped from the Cup schedule. It was really cool at first, and there were some good races and finishes there in the early years, but the novelty started to wear off after the first 10-12 years there. With the number of grandstands there, even if you get 100k, you're still going to have seas of empty seats. 348. Eric posted: 07.24.2017 - 1:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) @339, Having 3 Talladega races in a season is a terrible idea. I don't think the crowds can handle 3 track dates and that is an issue with Charlotte right now. The also cup series needs to add a Short track date and a race track that is only used for road courses. 349. Ty posted: 07.24.2017 - 2:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) NASCAR wonders why viewership and attendance is in the crapper. It's because of stunts like yesterday. The field was obviously wrecking before they hit the line but they waited until they had crossed the line to throw the caution. They've pulled the caution trigger so quick in the past but elected not to do so yesterday. After all, gotta get all 4 Hendricks cars in the Chase. Heaven forbid. 350. Windows Millennium Edition posted: 07.24.2017 - 2:51 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "NASCAR wonders why viewership and attendance is in the crapper. It's because of stunts like yesterday. The field was obviously wrecking before they hit the line but they waited until they had crossed the line to throw the caution. They've pulled the caution trigger so quick in the past but elected not to do so yesterday. After all, gotta get all 4 Hendricks cars in the Chase. Heaven forbid." They were not going to get the race restarted anyway, due to the impending darkness over the race track. Yes, NASCAR did intentionally wait until Kahne hit the overtime line to end the race, but that was most likely the last restart of the race, due to said darkness. I agree that NASCAR should've thrown the caution before they got to the OT line and then called the race due to darkness, but the outcome of the race was going to stay the same no matter what. 351. 2017 Debris Caution Update posted: 07.24.2017 - 3:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Through 20 races there have been 0.65 debris cautions per race, more than 2000 but less than any year since. Texas had 4, Richmond and Michigan had 2, and Atlanta, Martinsville, Kansas, Dover, and Sonoma all had 1. 12 of the first 20 races have had 0 debris cautions. The last 4 races have had 0 debris cautions. However, if you treat the stage 1 and 2 (and 3 for Charlotte) cautions as debris cautions the number is 2.7 or 0.2 higher than the 2005 high and nearly double last year's 1.4. 352. nsd posted: 07.24.2017 - 3:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 342 and 347, yeah I know about the old July race date at Dega, why I said at night, but really didn't know enough about how expensive the lights are. Starting earlier is fine, except the British Open was on, so obvious time conflicts. Like the extra short track idea; how's Rockingham looking for racing? Too rural? God I've seen replays of that 86 Richmond race and God did it look cold back then. 353. nsd posted: 07.24.2017 - 3:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) But bottom line, I think many of us are in agreement yesterday's race exposed a ton of flaws in the sport today all at once. 354. 1995 Subaru WRX STi posted: 07.24.2017 - 3:36 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "I agree that NASCAR should've thrown the caution before they got to the OT line and then called the race due to darkness, but the outcome of the race was going to stay the same no matter what." Agreed. Kahne nailed the restart and no one was going too catch him. Besides does anyone really think that if they got it restarted they wouldn't have crashed again? 355. cjs3872 posted: 07.24.2017 - 3:36 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) This race, for the most part, was a total fiasco, though that's almost entirely on the drivers, because, with one possible exception (the next-to-last restart), it was actually a well officiated race. The reason I consider this race to be mostly a fiasco was the fact that, in the 24 years they've held the Brickyard 400, the performance of the drivers was easily the worst in the history of the event, and it's not even close. There was too much blocking for unimportant positions (blocking to keep 20th place, really?), and that caused a number of the crashes that took place during the event, which saw half the field not even get to the finish, mostly because of crashes. When he was a commentator, Bobby Unser frequently decried not only blocking, but also, as he would put it, making such an issue out of positions back in the pack, and that's exactly what we saw during much of this race. Perhaps fate was also against this particular race from the very beginning, with the well-advised stoppage after the 12th lap for potentially dangerous weather, and although the dangerous weather never materialized, the heavy rain that came forced a 1 hour, 47 minute delay, which may have created somewhat of a hap-hazard attitude among the drivers. The only criticism that could be made there is that, if NASCAR knew there was threatening weather so close to the start of this race, why not simply delay the start until after the weather passed, so the whole race could start with a clean slate. And this certainly had an adverse impact on the strategy of some teams. Then when Kyle Busch raced Martin Truex, Jr. for the lead on a restart on lap 111, something they should have been doing all day instead of Truex ceding to Busch, something Kyle would never do (nor should he) if the situation had been reversed, Truex's car got into the dirt portion in turn one between the asphalt and the grass, causing him to lose control and collect Kyle's car. Nothing wrong happened here, though I suspect had the situation been reverse, and it was Truex dominating with Kyle suddenly finding himself in the lead with one pit stop still to go, I'm not sure Truex would have raced Kyle so hard, because Kyle seems to need to lead EVERY lap, while Truex is one who only cares about leading one lap, the last one. But that was a racing incident with neither driver at fault, but what it set in motion was the chaotic finish that would ensue with no dominant car left in the race. Kasey Kahne, who had not been a factor for almost the entire race, suddenly got the break of a lifetime when he was on pit road when the caution came out for the first of the two big crashes on the main straightaway, something that every driver that's ever raced at Indy has always feared. Because of the timing of that caution flag, Kahne, for all intents and purposes, inherited the lead and showed a grit that he showed when up front in the past, but hasn't showed in recent years, and raced like the driver Rick Hendrick signed six years ago. One thing I found ironic, especially given all the blocking that took place during the race, that when Jimmie Johnson went three-wide on Kahne and Brad Keselowski for the lead, Kahne gave him all the room he needed, but Jimmie lost it, as he's had happen to him so many times, and nobody backed out of it, including Kahne, who's always had a reputation as a driver that's not willing to stick it in there tight. This time, he actually did stuff it in there, and both he and Brad barely escaped what could have been a huge calamity in turn three. Then came the one significant officiating controversy of the race, and that was Keselowski jumping the start, because Kahne was still officially the leaderand should have been the one to accelerate first, but Keselowski jumped, and then when both drivers backed off (Kahne doing so show that Brad jumped), the second huge front straightaway crash happened, ending some great races, including those of Trevor Bayne, who himself thought he might win two different ways, Michael McDowell, and Gray Gaulding. Then on the final restart, Kahne simply showed he wanted it more than Keselowski by driving through the oil dry in turn one and using his dirt track experience to keep the car straight, and ending matters. Then when McDowell, Denny Hamlin, and a couple of others crashed on the back straightaway, the race was over, either by the leaders crossing the timing line (which is why NASCAR needlessly waited) or by the fact that NASCAR would have called the race due to darkness, anyway. But Kahne's win, and the way he won on that final restart causes a couple of questions to be asked and a reiterated point to be made. I've said on these boards before that, although Brad Keselowski is the driver for Team Penske that has the championship, he doesn't seem as capable to put away the big races the way Joey Logano can, which makes me wonder if Kahne could have beaten Logano, had it been Logano leading, and not Keselowski. I think not, because I believe Logano would have found a way to hold him off. After all, it's Logano who seems to win the big ones at Penske, despite not having the championship Keselowski has. And I'm going to raise the same question regarding Kahne that I raised a few years ago regarding Ryan Newman after he won this race with a Daytona 500 win already on his resume. That question is, does this win elevate Kahne, who already has three Coca-Cola 600 wins (and should have four), one of only two active drivers about whom that can be said (Jimmie Johnson is the other one), as well as an All-Star Race win, and wins at tough tracks like Atlanta (3), Texas, Pocono (twice), Bristol, Loudon, Phoenix, and the road course at Sonoma, to the point of being a borderline Hall of Fame candidate (I would say NO here), and given his recent struggles at Hendrick Motorsports, have we underestimated Kahne's career in much the same manner in which other drivers with similar records, such as Neil Bonnett, Geoff Bodine, Harry Gant, Buddy Baker, as well as other drivers with similar records of more recent vintage like Newman and Greg Biffle have, at times been underestimated. You don't win at that many different types of racetracks without being a versatile driver, and to add another big victory at a unique track like Indianapolis shows how versatile a driver Kahne has always been, even if a bit more conservative than he should have been at times. 356. George posted: 07.24.2017 - 3:38 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Based on all the sore-loser comments here and elsewhere, it's apparent that the major one is the "waaaaah -- my favorite driver didn't win" flaw. And the other flaw would be something about NASCAR failing to sufficiently control the earth's rotation on its axis so that sundown would come a few minutes later and a different driver more palatable to the sore losers might have won. Naturally if they'd just start the races a little earlier, NASCAR could scrap the costly earth rotation/weather control projects since they'd be less necessary at that point. 357. MgoBlue22 posted: 07.24.2017 - 4:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I traveled 4 hours down from Michigan to see my first Brickyard race with some cheap turn 4 seats. I've been watching Nascar since the 2000 season, but the reason I went was more because of the history at Indy more than the previous years of Nascar action. Plus, even though I support the move Indy makes to the fall, I know I won't be able to attend (but will watch at home) then. Some may disagree, but I found this race really entertaining since Stage 3 started. I dislike Kyle and cheered when he crashed. I enjoyed each crash and restart as the race went along, but trust me, I was surprised that the restart where Hamlin crashed in,even happened. It was pretty dark by then and a lot of in the crowd thought they were going to call it during that last red. It was no surprise to us in the crowd that they waited to wave the yellow for Kahne, which most, including myself, were happy about. Now watching replays the cameras make it brighter than it actually was when they called the race. I believe he was going to end up winning anyways. I'm really glad I attended this event though, it was a lot more than I expected and to me, was one of my top 5 favorite races of the year. 358. MgoBlue22 posted: 07.24.2017 - 4:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Also, I never been a fan of Jimmie, but watching him running it 3 wide like that with his engine smoking since during the caution laps, was pretty special to watch. 359. Nascar Lead Lap Points posted: 07.24.2017 - 5:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Race Name was Brantley Gilbert Big Machine Brickyard 400 360. Tyler posted: 07.24.2017 - 5:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) RaceFanX, the points haven't been updated on the standings page yet. 361. cjs3872 posted: 07.24.2017 - 5:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kasey Kahne's win yesterday in the Brickyard 400 brings up something nobody's talking about, and one that a couple of months ago I thought was a complete impossibility. That is the chance of more than 16 drivers winning a race in the first 26. If that were to happen, then points become critical for the 1-win drivers, and looking at the points standings, Kasey Kahne and Austin Dillon are the two lowest ranked drivers with one win, in 20th ans 21st place in the standings, respectively. Although Kahne is the 12th driver to have punched his ticket for the Chase (and it would be 13 if not for the rules infraction on Joey Logano's winning car at Richmond), there's a real chance that either Kahne or Dillon might still not make the Chase, even with a win. Given that there are six races left, and aside from Logano, you have Kyle Busch, Chase Elliott, Clint Bowyer, and Matt Kenseth all without a win and in cars certainly good enough to win races, the possibility of more than 16 winners in the first 26 races must be brought up. (Jamie McMurray's not capable of winning any of the six remaining races prior to the Chase, despite how high he is in overall points, so he's out of the equation if there are 16 winners, much less 17.) Then add the wild card race on the road course at Watkins Glen, which adds A.J. Allmendinger's name into the mix, though should he win that one, he would then be the driver on the Chase bubble for 1-win drivers, since his points position is significantly lower than even Kahne's and Dillon's at 27th. So while everyone's talking about winning races, and understandably so, points could still very definitely decide who makes the Chase and who doesn't, because Austin Dillon and Kasey Kahne could still find themselves on the Chase bubble, even after each of them won one of NASCAR's biggest races this season, because they're the low men in the points standings among the one-time winners this season. 362. Eric posted: 07.24.2017 - 6:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I have a couple problems with this race off the bat. While drivers are at fault for the wrecks, there is a couple things that needed to be looked. IMS doesn't have lights for Night time and the race shouldn't be starting at 2:30-3:00 afternoon eastern as a result time. The latest a race should start without a weather issue at IMS is 1:30 in the afternoon eastern time. This race also proved what having cautions at the end of the first 2 stages is a bad idea. It can lead to cautions breading caution and that is what happened at the start of stage 3. The end of stage 2 caution did cause the first 2 cautions in the 3rd stage. What happened with 10 to go is completely on the drivers. 363. Damon posted: 07.24.2017 - 6:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "But Kahne's win, and the way he won on that final restart causes a couple of questions to be asked and a reiterated point to be made. I've said on these boards before that, although Brad Keselowski is the driver for Team Penske that has the championship, he doesn't seem as capable to put away the big races the way Joey Logano can, which makes me wonder if Kahne could have beaten Logano, had it been Logano leading, and not Keselowski. I think not, because I believe Logano would have found a way to hold him off. After all, it's Logano who seems to win the big ones at Penske, despite not having the championship Keselowski has." Good points and I certainly think it speaks to Joey's strength, his aggressiveness on restarts while highlighting Brad's big weakness, the restarts. Hearing him talk about it yesterday after the race reminds me of him complaining about the restarts in a roundabout way at Kentucky while also blasting the car and for whatever reason that's an element of the race that's legitimately gotten in his head. 364. Damon posted: 07.24.2017 - 6:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 361, While this is possible, I just find it hard to believe that we won't have at least two repeat winners in the last 6 races, which would squash this theory. 365. Eric posted: 07.24.2017 - 6:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @339, Not all race tracks are allowed to have Night time lights for racing. When New Hampshire Motorspeedway was built, the local authorities didn't want the track to have lights. That is still the case today. It is possible that some of the tracks without lights for night racing actually have the same issue as New Hampshire Motorspeedway. The other issue for some the tracks is cost of installing them like at a road course and at Pocono. 366. 1995 Subaru WRX STi posted: 07.24.2017 - 6:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Also, I never been a fan of Jimmie, but watching him running it 3 wide like that with his engine smoking since during the caution laps, was pretty special to watch." I still can't wrap my head around that there SHOULD have been 3 cars on the rollback heading for garage area and yet only 1 did go too the garage area. Must live in the alternate universe or something. "Hearing him talk about it yesterday after the race reminds me of him complaining about the restarts in a roundabout way at Kentucky while also blasting the car and for whatever reason that's an element of the race that's legitimately gotten in his head." Those idiots (Brad included) haven't been able too do restarts right for years. They had too run too mommy NASCAR too help them and they still can't do it right. The games being played on restarts is BS. I wish it was just the flagman starting/restarting the race. That way only ones too blame are the drivers if they don't go. But knowing them they'd find a way too mess it up anyway. 367. Jones posted: 07.24.2017 - 6:32 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @361 McMurray is just as capable, if not more so, of winning a race than Clint Bowyer. He's been faster all year. 368. MJM posted: 07.24.2017 - 6:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Unfortunately, despite Timmy Hill's 14th place finish yesterday, the #66 isn't on the Entry List for this weekend's Pocono race. 369. StenhouseFan17 posted: 07.24.2017 - 7:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @368 The same guys who work on the #66 Cup car do the #13, #40, and #72 Xfinity cars. With NXS in Iowa this weekend, it's not logistically possible for them to put the #66 on track at Iowa. 370. Danish Pie posted: 07.24.2017 - 7:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @368 As long as they have only one Cup car, they aren't going to enter any races back-to-back, especially, like @369 said, on a weekend where Cup and Xfinity are at two different tracks. There next confirmed race is Darlington, and there is a possibility that they might run Michigan. I would bet against them running Watkins Glen or Bristol before Labor Day, but I wouldn't put it past them. 371. Pickles posted: 07.24.2017 - 7:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I have been toying with other points systems, stage points only, 'classic' F1 and DTM (cause I'm a big DTM fan). In all three systems, either Larson or Truex Jr. is the point leader, with Larson leading classic F1 and DTM and Truex Jr. obviously leading stage points only. I think the DTM point system is the most interesting, however. Here are some observations I made: Through 10 races - Keselowski, Larson, Logano are only drivers with over 60 pts - Keselowski leads Larson by 15 pts - Truex Jr. is 7th in pts with Stenhouse Jr 2 pts above in 6th - Kurt Busch is 11th off 500 win - Ryan Blaney is 16th in pts and Erik Jones is 25th Through 15 races - Keselowski, Larson, Logano, Truex Jr. are only drivers with over 100 pts - Larson leads Keselowski by 14 pts - Stenhouse Jr. falls to 12th - Ryan Blaney has risen 6 spots in the last 5 races - Erik Jones is still sub-20th Through 20 races - Keselowski, Larson, Logano, Truex Jr, Harvick, Ky Busch, Hamlin are only drivers with over 100 pts - Larson leads Keselowski by 15 pts - JJ has fallen to 9th in points over the last 10 races, from a high of 4th - Blaney falls to 15th - Boywer climbs into T10 off back-to-back 2nds - Ryan Newman is 12th in pts and Ricky Stenhouse is 11th 372. 95McDowellFan posted: 07.24.2017 - 9:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Whitt scored Tri-Star's best finish since 1996 the day before team owner Mark Smith passed away 373. cjs3872 posted: 07.24.2017 - 11:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @367, you mean the same driver that, in the last 99 races (the last 3 of 2014, all of 2015 and 2016 and the first 20 races of 2017), has led a grand total of six races for a combined total of 30 laps, nearly half of which came in this year's Daytona 500, while his teammate (Kyle Larson) has been a constant presence among the leaders for the last two seasons. Jamie McMurray's up where he is in points (7th) because of consistency, and if this were a season where a smaller group of drivers won a higher number of races, he'd be lead pipe cinch to make the Chase this season. But the way this season is going, there might be enough winners to knock any non-winner from the Chase. Clint Bowyer is the same way, extremely consistent but rarely a winner, but I think he has a much better chance to win than does McMurray, especially given the six tracks on which they'll be racing prior to the Chase. And Damon (#363), my comments on Logano being more likely to be able to hold off Kahne than Keselowski has nothing to do with how good he may or may not be on restarts. It has something to do with the fact that certain performers can rise to the occasion in the big moments, and others simply not being able to. Prior to the running of this year's Brickyard 400, we saw a textbook case of that in the last hour of The Open (a.k.a. the British Open) when Jordan Spieth simply snatched victory from Matt Kuchar in the last five holes by going 5 under par to turn a day-long collapse into a 3-shot victory. In fact, Ricky Craven noted another case of that three years ago when Kasey Kahne was unable to beat Jeff Gordon on the final restart with 17 laps to go in that year's Brickyard 400. Craven said it was simply a case of Gordon summoning up what made him what he was, which was his ability to rise up to the moment. Logano has that ability, and has shown it time and again since joining Penske. Keselowski has not shown that ability to rise to the big moments. That's why I believe that Logano would have held Kahne off. And Eric (#362), there were major scheduling conflicts with multiple sporting events that forced the Brickyard 400 into a later start. First, with NBC and NBC Sports Network carrying The Open (or British Open), the Tour de France, and the Brickyard 400, all on the same day, they could not have possibly have scheduled the Brickyard 400 for an earlier starting time. And had The Open gone into a 4-hole playoff, which would have lasted an extra hour, the start of the Brickyard 400 may never have been shown because of the scheduling and network conflicts, with NBC carrying The Open and NBC Sports Network covering the Tour de France. When NBC and the Golf Channel bought the rights for The Open from ABC/ESPN, they should have known that this kind of thing could happen, and is likely to again. And there's no way NBC is ever going to move the final round of one of golf four biggest events off live network television for a NASCAR race, even if it is one of the biggest races on the NASCAR circuit. And as for the restart issues that continue to plague the sport, especially on tracks where there are walls on both sides, as is the case with the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, the easiest way around that, other than a return to single-file restarts to give the drivers more room, in case of a problem, is to have the drivers start earlier and speed up the pace car. For instance, at IMS, they should have the drivers start between the exit of turn four and the end of the pit wall, which should give them plenty of time to accelerate to the green flag. They should also start from a faster speed than they do. They never had problems on restarts back in the days when they started from a faster speed and further away from the start/finish line. The restarts late in this race brought to mind some of the biggest and worst crashes at the beginning of the Indianapolis 500 over the years when they started from a slower speed and closer to the start/finish line. That's what caused the huge wrecks in 1966 and 1973, as well as the crash in 1982 on the initial attempt to start that race. That 1982 wreck brought on the rule changes mandating a faster pace for the start, along with starting further away from the start/finish line, beginning in 1983. 374. Jonathan King posted: 07.24.2017 - 11:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) As far as what you guys are talking about, Kasey Kahne and Ryan Newman ended winless streaks that spanned 100 races or more and there have been a ton of first time winners. You never know what is going to happen. It doesnt matter about speed, it is about who can win with the best strategy. 375. StenhouseFan17 posted: 07.25.2017 - 1:40 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) #72 owner - Bryan Smith 376. Mannoroth posted: 07.25.2017 - 6:56 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) 374. Yes, but it's gonna take a while, when they win again... Their wins were just ocassional, nothing else. Such an opportunity doesn't come every race. 377. most1305 posted: 07.25.2017 - 7:08 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) Whoever said Brad Keselowski can't get up for big events is wrong. He beat the field for his first Cup win in a Finch car. He also is the only one to take Jimmie down in a points battle when Jimmie was still in it going into the last race. I don't count these one race champions in that. Brad has shined several times in big situations. 378. Mannoroth posted: 07.25.2017 - 7:43 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) 377. Everyone can get a win at Superspeedway, if they are lucky and near the front in the final laps. But just like others, Brad didn't get his first win on a "real racetrack" until Kansas in 2011 - was completely winless in a Penske's 12 car in 2010. However, that was due to fuel mileage, so he got his first appropriate win at Pocono in the same season beating Kyle Busch. Fair & square, no help. And with a hurt ankle, I think. And later, he added his 3rd and final win in 2011 at Bristol - fair & square again. 379. Damon posted: 07.25.2017 - 7:49 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) "And Damon (#363), my comments on Logano being more likely to be able to hold off Kahne than Keselowski has nothing to do with how good he may or may not be on restarts." I get that, but that's exactly how Kahne passed Brad, on the restart. Maybe if Brad had a better restart and cleared Kahne through turn 2, he can block whatever run Kahne had and would've won. 380. JSPorts posted: 07.25.2017 - 8:56 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I thought Brad had lane choice there, and I wasn't sure why he picked the outside. That line only seemed to work for Busch/Truex when they were letting each other in line towards the beginning of the race. 381. cjs3872 posted: 07.25.2017 - 9:45 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @380, Brad picked the outside on that restart for two very significant reasons. First, there was oil dry all over the inside of turn one, so Brad understandably didn't want to chance getting in that oil dry if he didn't have to. The other reason was one thing that helped caused the crash on the restart on lap 111, and that is the aerodynamic effect of a car on the outside sucking around the car on the inside. In fact, that's exactly what cost Kasey Kahne in the 2014 race, because he was the leader on the final restart and chose to start on the inside, and Jeff Gordon's car sucked Kasey's car sideways enough to allow Gordon to get in front of him. But going back to the first point, that's where Kasey's vast dirt racing experience paid off, because he relied on that experience to be able to get through the oil dry with a car on his outside to pull ahead. A driver with less experience on dirt, or practically no experience at all racing on dirt, would have have a much tougher time making that move work, which brings me to a point I haven't yet made about Kasey's win. And that is that he's the fourth USAC graduate to win the Brickyard 400, and those four ex-USAC racers have accounted for NINE of the 24 Brickyard 400 wins (five for Jeff Gordon, two for Tony Stewart, and now one each for Ryan Newman and Kasey Kahne). And while winning at Indy is special for any driver, for those that grew up racing in USAC, racing and winning at Indy means even more to them than it would mean to everyone else because they basically cut their teeth racing in the shadow of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. In fact, when he raced for Stewart-Haas Racing, Ryan Newman's car carried the #39 because that's the number Mel Kenyon, a USAC racing legend and 4-time top 4 finisher in eight Indianapolis 500 starts from 1966-'73 carried for many years in USAC, and Kenyon was Newman's mentor when he was coming up through the USAC ranks, and Newman paid him back by being Kenyon's presenter when Kenyon was inducted into the International Motorsports Hall of Fame a few years ago. And as for those that claim Keselowski has a record of being able to come up big in the big moments, let's not forget that he won the championship in 2012 more because Jimmie Johnson and the #48 team lost it. We can't forget that Jimmie blew a tire at Phoenix after knowing he had one going down, but had been told by his crew chief to stay out. And then at Homestead a week later, the #48 team fell over themselves in every way possible, so Brad basically was given the championship on a silver platter in what might have been the worst championship collapse since Bill Elliott handed Alan Kulwicki the title in 1992. And in the race at Talladega in which he got his first win, let's not forget that the driver he dueled on the final couple of laps, Carl Edwards, was even worse at conquering the big moments than Brad is. How many times over the years did we see Carl Edwards come up short in the big moment? 382. that e-guy posted: 07.25.2017 - 10:39 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Brad also saved himself from getting eliminated from the chase in 2014 at Talladega when everyone (except Logano) was against him. 383. Corey posted: 07.25.2017 - 1:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The 13th caution should list the 95 not 59 384. someone posted: 07.25.2017 - 6:27 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) 381: I see you constantly rag on Carl Edwards being a chronic choke artist, but I just don't see it. You place a lot of importance on crown jewel races, and he has won two undeniable crown jewel races (undeniable in the sense that EVERYONE considers the Daytona 500, Coca-Cola 600, Brickyard 400, and Southern 500 to be crown jewels), the 2015 Coca-Cola 600 and the 2015 Southern 500, as well as the 2011 All Star Race. Not awe-inspiring by any means, but still his fair share of big wins. Regarding race wins in general, we can determine that Carl Edwards performs just fine under pressure is through expected wins vs. actual wins. If a driver has MORE expected wins than actual wins, it is safe to say that driver is a choke artist. If that driver has MORE actual wins than expected wins, it is safe to say that driver is a closer, or at least not a choke artist. This is the source I'm using, and it explains what goes into determining an "expected win": https://www.reddit.com/r/NASCAR/comments/3oiz4a/how_many_wins_should_a_driver_have/ As you can see Carl Edwards "should" only have 17 wins, yet at the time this was calculated, 2015, he had 25 wins, meaning he has won approximately 47% MORE races than he "should have". Since Brad Keselowski is also someone you're claiming chokes, he has won 42% MORE races than he should have. If a driver wins that much more frequently than he is expected to, that driver is NOT a choke artist, heck you could even consider Edwards and Keselowski closers, with how many more actual wins they have than expected. Regarding his three championship near-misses, in 2008, yeah he choked pretty bad at Talladega, but that's irrelevant because he had a mechanical problem anyways at Charlotte, and finished poorly through no fault of his own, so his "choke" was absolutely meaningless. In 2011, he had one of the best chase runs in history, a worst finish of 11th and an average chase finish of around 5th, it wasn't Edwards' fault that Tony Stewart's chase run was even better. I guess you could say he choked the 2016 championship away, but let's not forget how he was even eligible for the 2016 championship in the first place. Following a disastrous result at Martinsville (through no fault of his own), he had to "come up big in the big moment" and win at either Texas or Phoenix; and did just that at Texas. Is a rain-shortened, pit crew assisted win at Texas the most impressive win ever? Not really, but he still had to hold it out front for thirty laps, and two restarts; that would be a tall order for someone who routinely crumbles under pressure, as you say Carl Edwards does. I'm not saying Carl Edwards is outstanding in high pressure situations, but he is much better under pressure than you give him credit for. I'd say he's about average in high pressure situations, it just depends on what high pressure situations we're talking about. 385. Tide1732 posted: 07.26.2017 - 7:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kasey Kahne gets a big win, Your restrictor plate results this year is good, Kasey Kahne is not a very bad driver. It's bad to say, but I know that maybe this could be your last Cup win, if it does not go well with GMS or some team in the cup series where it will be in the next few years. 386. cjs3872 posted: 07.29.2017 - 8:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @384, my point about Carl Edwards gagging in the big moments always had more to do with the big races than the championship battles he was in. Other than throwing away a large amount of points at Talladega in 2008 by causing a huge wreck he became entangled in, there wasn't a whole lot more he could have done in the points battles in 2008 and 2011, mainly because he was driving underpowered cars, in comparison to what he was up against. It's the big races he gagged in before turning that around in 2015 that caused me to say he wasn't a big-time performer in the big moments. One of those big races he gagged in was the race in which Brad Keselwoski got his first win, the 2009 spring race at Talladega. Others include the 2008 Brickyard 400 (though I'm not sure that's a race anyone wants associated with their name), the 2011 Daytona 500, the 2011 Southern 500, the 2013 spring race at Talladega, and the 2014 All-Star Race. He was in position to win every one of those races, but yet somehow found a way to fall short every time. (To his credit, he did win the 2011 All-Star Race, holding off Kyle Busch.) But he turned that around in 2015 with big wins in both the Coca-Cola 600 and Southern 500, and if not for an untimely caution late in the final race of the 2016 season at Homestead, he had the championship won, lock, stock, and barrel. And his losing the championship was no fault of his, as he got wrecked on a late race restart. By the end of the 2016 season, his final one, he had turned around the reputation of not being able to perform when the pressure was highest, because in his two years at Joe Gibbs Racing, he certainly did perform in the big moments, as his fuel mileage win in the Coca-Cola 600 and gutty win in the Southern 500 later that year, not to mention his great effort at Homestead in 2016, proved. 387. John Lee Pettimore III posted: 07.30.2017 - 9:27 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Why were the 78 crew members taunting the 18 crew after the 78 18 wreck? The wreck was obviously the 78's fault, Truex even said so. Kinda dumb. Hope they enjoy their 3 week vacation. 388. Sector posted: 07.30.2017 - 9:52 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @385 This was not a restrictor plate race. Only the Xfinity race was, and it appears as much as a success it was, it will be a restrictor plate race in 2018. 389. Sector posted: 07.30.2017 - 9:54 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Others include the 2008 Brickyard 400 (though I'm not sure that's a race anyone wants associated with their name)" Besides Jimmie Johnson, right? LOL 390. JFM01 posted: 10.06.2017 - 4:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think Hamlin and Ty Dillon shouldn't be listed as running. 391. Tide1732 posted: 11.05.2017 - 7:08 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Probably is final cup win for the #5 Hendrick and for Kasey Kahne in a cup ride. 392. Jimmie4life posted: 12.23.2017 - 10:28 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) 3/4 of the last 16 laps of the race were run under caution, or about 1 lap of green average in the last 16 laps. 393. RaceFanX posted: 05.20.2018 - 5:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Danica Patrick's fifth and final Brickyard 400 start sees her score her best finish in the Indianapolis Motor Speedway NASCAR race with an 11th-place performance. While ran well in several Indianapolis 500s here at IMS this was the only time she finished in the top-20 here in a NASCAR Cup. 394. MenardFan posted: 06.09.2018 - 2:12 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Some people are still mad at this race, and I still question why. I mean, they wouldn't get another restart in even if they tried. Clouds blocked the sunlight, and made it much darker than what it would be without clouds. And, sunset was 10 minutes away, and it would've been about a 7-8 minute cleanup(at minimum), and 2 minutes for restart, so, it would've been nighttime by the time the race finished. 395. JSPorts posted: 06.09.2018 - 2:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The end was still cheap, though. They either need to get rid of overtime altogether or else require the race to end under green. The system they have now is kind of like a tie in the NFL, or at least leaves the same feeling after watching it. It's quite anti-climactic when there is a caution at the end when the whole purpose of overtime is to not end under caution. 396. MenardFan posted: 06.09.2018 - 2:32 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @395 I can understand, but it was just dark, and they want to keep drivers safe. So, even if they threw the caution before the overtime line(so glad that's gone), it still would've been too dark to go back racing. 397. JSPorts posted: 06.09.2018 - 3:35 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I know. I wish they would've started the race earlier, though, especially at a track with no lights, so they could've had more time to get the race in if a situation like this happened. 398. Tide1732 posted: 08.26.2018 - 3:29 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Last NASCAR win for Cup veteran Kasey Kahne. Likely will not won a race in 2018 (your last NASCAR year) 399. RaceFanX posted: 09.12.2018 - 10:24 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Knowing what we know now this was truly an incredible win for Kahne. By 2017 Kahne was suffered from severe dehydration issues while racing, especially affecting his performance in the second half of races, yet he pressed on regardless and scored probably the biggest win of his career here despite having to push himself to the limit. Kahne was very visibly worn out in victory lane after this win and now we know why. What a drive! Kahne's dehydration issue didn't become public knowledge for more than a year after this race until he announced he would be sitting out the 2018 running of the Brickyard 400 because of it. The issue played into his announcement that 2018 would be his last full time one in the Cup series. This was the last Brickyard 400 run in July before the race moved to a post-Labor Day date in 2018 to become the last race of NASCAR's regular season. 400. 34McDowellFan posted: 10.08.2018 - 4:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Likely Kasey Kahne's final career victory 401. RaceFanX posted: 10.09.2018 - 11:33 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) This indeed did turn out to be Kahne's 18th and final victory...and perhaps his biggest. Kahne won three "Crown Jewel" races during his career with this Brickyard 400 triumph joined by two Coca-Cola 600 wins. 402. Jimmie4life posted: 06.01.2019 - 9:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Trevor Bayne got blamed for that crash on lap 164. In reality, he got bumped out of line because everyone was shoving to win the race. He gets blamed for some things because of his lucky win and nothing else. 403. Anonymous posted: 06.02.2019 - 7:24 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) 402, why mention somebody that doesn't race anymore? He's gone off to the coffee shop life. 404. TheDewCrew posted: 04.25.2020 - 4:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 14 cautions, 19 DNFs, darkness falling, ended under yellow, rain, 10 lead changes. Ladies and gentlemen, my favorite NASCAR race. This race, was nuts, a crapshoot, certifiably insane, and I LOVE IT! The shortage of wrecks was none, as they far exceeded that. The racing in the pack was good. Rain hit, causing a 2 hour delay (I love rain delayed races, personally, it only adds to the drama and excitement). The two dominant cars all day wreck each other on a restart, as one goes up in flames. A potential fuel mileage race, shot down by a big crash. More crashes. A 3 wide batlle for the lead, ends up with 7 time wrecked. A wreck before the green waves. Darkness within 30 minutes, the underdog of HMS in the 2010s, Kasey Kahne has the restart of his life to get by Keselowski, cross the overtime line, as they wreck behind. An underrated driver, getting one last hurrah at the historic Indianapolis Motor Speedway, as the sunset shone on him, and the final chapters of his career. Not too shabby for a race that had seemingly lost it's magic 405. Foote posted: 06.05.2020 - 12:51 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Kasey Kahne by this point in his career was a broken man, but after running mid pack all race and getting the lucky caution of a lifetime, delivered one of his finest drives at the end of this race. I remember watching at home and being convinced Kahne would drop back in the field, but he simply outclassed Jim Johnson and Brad K on the late restarts for a massive win. In the post race presser, he lit up when asked about what boss Rick Hendrick said to him after the race. Not that Rick said anything unusual, but just that Rick was happy in victory lane, and Kasey clearly wanted to make him proud so badly. Unlike Dale Jr, Kahne never got his "Steve Letarte" and his confidence issues at Hendrick were never resolved. But this was still a special moment for Kahne. 406. SweetRich posted: 07.03.2020 - 10:46 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kasey Kahne's swansong victory as he captured The 2017 Brickyard 400 in a crazy Sunday race. Tons of cautions, a lengthy rain delay, almost not finishing cause of darkness. Regardless of all of that, Kasey returning to victory lane was nearly three years in the making. After winning in Atlanta on Labor Day weekend in 2014, Kasey went into a tailspin from that point onward. Some good runs, but mostly mid pack for nearly three years. Was it the equipment? Was it the luck of racing? Who Knows, but thankfully on this day, Kasey pulled off on of the biggest victories of his career, if not the biggest. It was so awesome to see him win once again, even though his playoff to the championship run was less than stellar with tons of bad luck. I am a Kasey Kahne fan and he had more than earned this huge win. 407. Tarheel posted: 07.03.2020 - 11:08 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) 406, I was also a Kahne fan and loved seeing him get this win. He likely wouldn't have won without wrecks taking out the faster cars, including Busch and Truex taking each other out, but that's more than balanced by the potential brickyard wins that got away from him in previous years. As for his dropoff in performance starting in 2014, I really have to wonder if it was early signs of the health problems that eventually forced his retirement. IMO, from about 2007 through 2011, he outperformed his equipment. When he moved to HMS, he was very fast in 2012 and 2013, but still got caught up in a lot of scrapes. As you stated, in 2014 he started declining, which was answered with a CC change which really didn't help, in fact it might have hurt. If his health hadn't suffered, I believe he'd be in the 30 to 40 win range now. 408. Rich posted: 12.13.2020 - 9:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Rick Allen, Jeff Burton and Steve Letarte were the commentators. Marty Snider, Dave Burns, Kelli Stavast and Parker Kligerman were the pit road reporters. 409. Rich posted: 12.30.2020 - 7:47 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) The pre and post race show host was Krista Voda along with Dale Jarrett and Kyle Petty. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Post a comment:* Your comment may not appear immediately - all comments must be approved by the moderator. Name: Comment: