|| *Comments on the 2017 Hollywood Casino 400:* View the most recent comment <#192> | Post a comment <#post> 1. yellowcat53 posted: 10.17.2017 - 9:34 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Notes: -StarCom Racing to attempt to qualify with Derrike Cope -Brad Keselowski with no sponsor listed yet on the #2 -No driver listed yet in the #15 -Kyle Busch will debut his M&M's Halloween paint scheme -Daniel Suarez with no sponsor listed yet on the #19 -Joey Logano with no sponsor listed yet on the #22 -No driver listed yet in the #23 -Kyle Larson with no sponsor listed yet on the #42 -No driver listed yet in the #51 -Gray Gaulding in the #55 -Carl Long in the #66 -No driver listed yet in the #83 -Michael McDowell with no sponsor listed yet on the #95 2. Anonymous posted: 10.17.2017 - 9:34 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Someone is going home 3. 66LongFan posted: 10.17.2017 - 10:11 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) Timmy Hill Will Drive The #66 4. TeamDCR fan posted: 10.17.2017 - 10:43 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I hope Derrike and the 00 have a successful weekend 5. hendrick9-24fan posted: 10.17.2017 - 6:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) The cookie-cutter s***show again sponsored by NA$CAR and their ideas of having enough cookie cutters on the schedule (we have too many boring cookie cutters, that can't produce racing 95 percent of the time, unless you are the IRL at Chicagoland). 6. 95McDowellFan posted: 10.17.2017 - 11:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #15 is Sorenson #23 is Lajoie #83 is Moffitt Any guesses on the #51? My guess is McLeod 7. NewGuyOnTheBlock posted: 10.18.2017 - 11:29 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) Wow, we might have a DNQ this weekend. That's rare in this day and age. Also, #5 Kansas tends to have the best racing among all the cookie-cutter tracks. Give it a chance. 8. hendrick9-24fan posted: 10.18.2017 - 4:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I meant overall all the cookie cutters becausr most of them tend to be boring. 9. sandy posted: 10.18.2017 - 4:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #19 Sponsor will be Arris High-Speed Modems #48 Sponsor will be Lowe's/ Marshalltown 10. 95McDowellFan posted: 10.19.2017 - 7:38 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) According to Carl Long's Facebook page there is possibility of the #66 withdrawing 11. NewGuyOnTheBlock posted: 10.19.2017 - 9:59 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) #8 Yeah I can agree that most of the cookie cutters are boring. I think Kansas is ok, to be honest. The spring race here was awesome, and the last couple of years have had some great racing. 12. Hank posted: 10.19.2017 - 11:32 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) If a race is boring to you maybe your not a fan of racing. 13. 1995 Subaru WRX STi posted: 10.19.2017 - 12:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ^ There is always something happening on a race track. Just because a fan doesn't see it, doesn't mean something isn't happening. TV coverage sucks now a days. Too be honest, I wish NASCAR could create their own channel because I really think they could do a better job. Or get PRN or MRN channels of their own because I've heard nothing but great from those stations. Racing is fine but how it is covered is terrible. Proably the only way too see everything is go too a race yourself. As someone who has, TV doesn't do a NASCAR race justice at all. 14. Brandon posted: 10.19.2017 - 12:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @10 I don't know why Carl would withdraw when his team has outqualified the Ware car every time. 15. RaceFanX posted: 10.19.2017 - 1:29 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) "Too be honest, I wish NASCAR could create their own channel because I really think they could do a better job." NASCAR supposedly had a shot at getting its own channel in the mid-2000s when the sport was still booming and FOX supposedly wanted to revamp SPEED Channel into even more of a NASCAR channel than it already was but it never quite came together. These days while the Big 4 sports all have a channel I'm not sure NASCAR has enough pull to make that work. I mean SPEED itself has been defunct for years. I do miss 1990s coverage because it seems there's a bit too much focus on the leaders of late. Back then IIRC and am not just looking back through rose colored glasses (which I might be) if the top-10 were spaced out they'd flip back and show the battle for 14th or something to keep you interested. 16. JR-TV posted: 10.19.2017 - 1:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @14, They failed to qualify at Bristol against the Rick Ware #51 and others losing the team quite a bit of money. 17. Rexrobe posted: 10.19.2017 - 2:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) For the last 15 years or so, the TV networks have collectively forgotten that race fans simply want to see racing. Televising motorsports doesn't have to be hard, just show us the best competition. Each race has it's own story to tell that plays out on the track as the race unfolds naturally. If race fans really cared about the pre-scripted story lines and talking heads, we would just watch the Young and the Restless and be done with it. But instead of that, we have ultra-tight closeups of the leader while the announcers drone on about their script that was decided in the production meeting three weeks ago, and everyone wonders why the ratings are down year after year after year... 18. Mike posted: 10.19.2017 - 2:08 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) @14 and 16: The 51 also outqualified the 66 in the spring race at Kansas, at Kentucky, at Darlington and at Charlotte a couple of weeks ago. 19. possum posted: 10.19.2017 - 9:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @17- "For the last 15 years or so, the TV networks have collectively forgotten that race fans simply want to see racing." No, they haven't forgotten that. They've just decided not to broadcast to race fans. They're broadcasting to non-race fans, completely oblivious to the fact that non-race fans aren't watching the broadcast. Why both FOX and NBC would be such idiots as to broadcast to people who aren't watching, and ignore the ones who are, is a mystery beyond my solving (in NBC's case it's even more mysterious because they don't do it for Indycar broadcasts, which are actually quite good). 20. Danish Pie posted: 10.20.2017 - 8:25 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) @18 Whether its the 51 or the 66 that DNQ's mostly depends on who the driver is. If it's Cody Ware in the 51, you can put your money on the 51 not making the show. But if B.J. McLeod is in the Rick Ware car, it could be close. Keep in mind also, this is StarCom Racing's first race. It's very possible they could flop hard and miss the grid entirely. 21. Archie posted: 10.20.2017 - 10:28 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) #66 has withdrawn. 22. Scott B posted: 10.20.2017 - 11:31 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) It's possible they just don't have a car ready in time. Also, in cases of more than 40 entries, they will likely be the car sent home with the least attempts anytime qualifying is rained out for the rest of this season. But, it's good preparation for 2018 to run the races they can. 23. Anonymous posted: 10.20.2017 - 11:39 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Looks like starcom will be making their first cup race for sure 24. ! posted: 10.20.2017 - 6:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Assuming StarCom doesn't withdraw or something, would this be the first time a car with a number starting with 0 has been in a race since David Reutimann in 2011? I know Kenny Wallace and Mark Green made attempts with the 09 and 0 respectively but they didn't make it. 25. JSPorts posted: 10.20.2017 - 7:46 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Yes. Last start by each number: #00: David Reutimann, Homestead, 2011 #09: Landon Cassill, Charlotte, spring 2011 #07: Robby Gordon, Bristol, fall 2010 #02: David Gilliland, Homestead, 2009 #08: Terry Labonte, Homestead, 2009 #04: P.J. Jones, Watkins Glen, 2009 #01: Regan Smith, Homestead, 2008 #06: Sam Hornish, Jr., Homestead, 2007 #0: Mike Bliss, Homestead, 2005 #03: Butch Leitzinger, Watkins Glen, 1994 #05: Ed Ferree, Watkins Glen, 1993 Kind of interesting that the final start for 9 of the 11 numbers came at either Homestead or Watkins Glen. Of course, this makes sense. Homestead is the last race of the season, so if it was a full-time car number's final year, they would have their last race at Homestead. Also, some of these were run part-time by teams that ran the number without the 0 in front for a future ROTY candidate at the end of the year, often ending at Homestead. And as for Watkins Glen, there were some road ringers who drove in just the two road races, often (again) with teams whose normal numbers were the same but without the 0. Since the Glen is the 2nd road race, their seasons (and their number's season) ended there. 26. NewGuyOnTheBlock posted: 10.20.2017 - 9:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Truex on the pole. Only his third of the season, which is surprising when you think about how dominant he's been all year. 27. Tyson posted: 10.20.2017 - 9:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Blaney failed post-qualifying inspection so his time was disallowed. NASCAR says he'll start last. 28. cba2442 posted: 10.20.2017 - 9:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ryan Blaney failed post qualifying inspection, will start from the rear Sunday. 29. jensenators posted: 10.20.2017 - 10:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @13. I can say for me I only listen to mrn/prn. I will put the race on mute, or like Sunday, I'll have the NFL on with the radio broadcast on my laptop. 30. possum posted: 10.21.2017 - 11:38 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @25 - NASCAR's rules on numbers are a bit weird. A team can be assigned a 1, 2, or 3 digit number. Once assigned a number, teams can keep it for as long as they continue to "use" it, where "using" a number is basically up to NASCAR's discretion. Established teams have preference in requesting numbers (not a rule, just the way NASCAR works). So the upshot of that is, that teams that show up just to run a few races, like running an extra car for a "ringer" at the road courses, or running an extra car to get a young driver some experience at the end of the season, tended to end up with 3 digit numbers. NASCAR rules also say you can only have a 1 or 2 digit number displayed on the car. So teams with 3 digit numbers simply leave the first digit off. Thus 101 becomes 01, 102 becomes 02, etc. If there's a conflict (e.g. if there was a 13 and a 113 entered) the higher-numbered car has to switch to an "open" number (i.e. one not entered in that particular race). With the number of car owners willing to attempt a NASCAR race having fallen so far (I doubt as many as 50 different cars have been entered this year, whereas not so long ago it would be 90 or more) I doubt we will ever see 3 digit numbers used in the future. 31. Spen posted: 10.21.2017 - 4:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Cope's team makes it 44 different numbers used this year, a record low. 32. possum posted: 10.22.2017 - 12:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @31 - thanks for looking that up :-) As a side note to my doubting we'd see 3 digit numbers in future, I notice Carl Long is actually #266, and Beard is #175. I don't know why they'd have 3 digit numbers, since neither the #66 or the #75 has been used for several years. I'd also make an exception as far as 3 digit numbers go for the #100. People have a special fondness for that number, so seeing it used in future (as Starcom is) wouldn't surprise me. 33. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 12:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Based off practice and his performance in the last two mile and a half races I'm going to go with Harvick to win today 34. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 2:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) There will be a competition caution at lap 30 due to rain from last night 35. Allen posted: 10.22.2017 - 2:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Not to sound like an idiot but what are the clinch scenarios for today? Anyone 12th in points on back will be eliminated without a win or those close to the cut off without having a bad points day? I'd personally love to see Kyle Busch eliminated today as a Kevin Harvick fan. 36. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 3:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) We're green at Kansas 37. John Lee Pettimore III posted: 10.22.2017 - 3:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 35 - only top 8 advance to the next round that starts next week at Martinsville. 38. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 3:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kurt Busch just made a pit stop and is now one lap down 39. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 3:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Truex has now led more than 2,000 laps this season 40. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 3:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Competition caution is out 41. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 3:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Restart violation for Truex for lane change 42. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 3:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Busch now leads 43. joey2448 posted: 10.22.2017 - 3:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wow, Truex penalized for dipping below the white line before the s/f line on the restart. The question is, why didn't Harvick get a penalty? He followed the 78 below the line as well. Either way, that is a stupid rule. 44. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 3:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Moffitt into the wall caution is out 45. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 3:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kurt Busch will get the free pass 46. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 3:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Keselowski, Blaney, Newman, Junior and Buescher stayed out and are the leaders 47. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 3:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Truex also stayed out 48. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 3:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Blaney from last to first 49. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 3:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Busch back to the lead 50. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 4:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Larson is on pit road with the hood up 51. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 4:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Larson is back out 3 laps down but it doesn't look good for him 52. Allen posted: 10.22.2017 - 4:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 37, yes I know the top 8 advance. I'm not that dumb. I mean the drivers right above or right below the cut line. 53. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 4:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Larson has blown up. His playoffs might have just ended 54. joey2448 posted: 10.22.2017 - 4:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Man, Larson what a heartbreaker. One of the top threats to win a championship all year and he may be out. 55. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 4:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Caution is out for Larson 56. George posted: 10.22.2017 - 4:07 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) And the one Chevy who could challenge the superior Toyotas goes poof. 57. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 4:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Busch wins stage 1 58. RWR posted: 10.22.2017 - 4:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Curtis Key engine!! 59. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 4:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Larson's engine failure is kind of reminiscent of what happen to Truex in this round last year 60. Ralph posted: 10.22.2017 - 4:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This is why this point system sucks 61. Sector posted: 10.22.2017 - 4:17 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) 42fan is bound to show up soon with "cheating, hax, rigged, nascar is dead" comments after this engine failure for Kyle Larson. 62. Damon posted: 10.22.2017 - 4:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 56, No doubt, but from a Chevy standpoint if Chase or Jimmie get to Homestead I could see them contending to win against the Toyotas. 63. Cookie Monster posted: 10.22.2017 - 4:23 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Funny the 48 need a bit more of a cushion to make the next round. What easier way to do it then plant a bad engine in a customer car. 64. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 4:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Truex on pit road with a vibration 65. Clint posted: 10.22.2017 - 4:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Truex getting a penalty and a car right behind him not getting a penalty for the same exact action is an absolute joke. Wow whoever officiates these races is god awful terrible. 66. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 4:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Truex is now one lap down 67. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 4:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Green flag pit stops starting 68. RaceFanX posted: 10.22.2017 - 4:52 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Mark Martin's here in the Roush pits for this one rooting on Trevor Bayne in his old #6 Ford and Ricky Stenhouse, Jr. Martin's last win for Roush came here at Kansas back in the fall of 2005. 69. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 4:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Pit stops have cycled through Kyle Busch has a two second lead over Harvick 70. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 4:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Moffit into the wall again caution is out 71. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 5:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) A few cars including Hamlin and Johnson stay out 72. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 5:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin wins stage 2 73. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 5:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Cars that didn't pit under that last caution pit now. Harvick is the new leader 74. joey2448 posted: 10.22.2017 - 5:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jimmie Johnson dropped from second to 10th on the one-lap sprint to the end of stage 2. He pipped Clint Bowyer for the final stage point by what looked like several inches. That could come back to help him in the end. He's currently battling Kenseth for the eighth and final spot in the next round. 75. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 5:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Stenhouse into the wall hard caution is out 76. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 5:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Some drivers making pit stops 77. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 5:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) First six cars on track stayed out 78. Chase24Fan posted: 10.22.2017 - 5:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Cmon 24 car. Doesn't seem like a winning car today. Just stay out of trouble. 79. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 5:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Johnson spins caution is out 80. joey2448 posted: 10.22.2017 - 5:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Johnson gets loose and spins off turn 4 into the frontstretch grass. The 48 is dangerously close to missing the next round. 81. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 5:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Johnson spins again caution is out 82. joey2448 posted: 10.22.2017 - 5:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jimmie goes around again! This time he loses it in turn 3, looks like he just got up into the marbles in the high groove. Miraculously he suffered minimal damage. 83. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 5:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Busch back to the lead 84. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 5:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Big One 85. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 5:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kenseth, McMurray, Jones incolved red flag is out 86. RaceFanX posted: 10.22.2017 - 5:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) There's a big crash on the backstretch and several of the championship contenders are involved including McMurray and Kenseth. Kenseth needed to finish 14th or better to beat Larson and that is looking unlikely at the moment. 87. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 5:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jones almost turned over on that impact. 88. RaceFanX posted: 10.22.2017 - 5:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Erik Jones got loose in Turn 2 and hit the outside wall with enough force the #77 Toyota had all four wheels off the ground and almost went over on its driver's side. 89. joey2448 posted: 10.22.2017 - 5:44 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) WOW HUGE CRASH ON THE BACKSTRETCH!!!! Looks like 7-8 cars involved and Erik Jones gets up on his side along the outside wall! Second big crash at Kansas in 2017. 90. RaceFanX posted: 10.22.2017 - 5:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) McMurray and Suarez actually hit Jones and that's what almost turned him over as he got the wall. Suarez's hit was hard enough the #19 Toyota basically popped a wheelie. 91. joey2448 posted: 10.22.2017 - 5:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The 20 team is done for the day violating the damage policy after seven team members went over the wall to fix the damage. Only six are allowed. Wow! 92. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 5:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kenseth is done 93. RaceFanX posted: 10.22.2017 - 5:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kenseth is being parked for too many men over the wall to repair the car. Ouch. 94. joey2448 posted: 10.22.2017 - 5:50 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Insane. Kenseth: "You're telling me that we sent too many guys over the wall, so I can't race for a championship?" 95. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 5:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Red flag has been lifted 96. Matt L posted: 10.22.2017 - 5:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Lol, this is just silly. 97. John Lee Pettimore III posted: 10.22.2017 - 5:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The teams asked for these rules. 98. Ralph posted: 10.22.2017 - 5:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Heartbreaking for Kenseth, I do not think the punishment fits the crime 99. Sector posted: 10.22.2017 - 5:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I can see Matt Kenseth be done with NASCAR after Homestead this season due to this parked DNF. 100. Incognito posted: 10.22.2017 - 5:59 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Matt Kenseth is an expert in unfairly removing competitors from playoff contention, so I can't feel terribly sorry for him. 101. John Lee Pettimore III posted: 10.22.2017 - 5:59 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Kenseth said he didn't know or understand the rules. His crew chief and crew should have - that's their job. 102. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 6:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Now Johnson is in seventh after two spins 103. John Lee Pettimore III posted: 10.22.2017 - 6:02 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) 100 - nice. 104. Jonesfan77 posted: 10.22.2017 - 6:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jones is such a great talent. Unfortunately, he tries wayyy too hard. 8 DNFS on the season, I'd say at most 3 of which were his fault. He needs to learn car control, if he could just learn to keep the car under him, he could consistently finish in the top 10. Also, really needs to learn not to over correct (such as what happened here). He could be a superstar, or he could be a bust. Lucky for him, Gibbs will probably give him until he's 25 or so to get things under control. 105. RaceFanX posted: 10.22.2017 - 6:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Dale Earnhardt, Jr. is now up into the top-5. 106. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 6:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Truex back to the lead 107. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 6:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick on pit road. Green flag pit stops may be starting 108. 42Fan posted: 10.22.2017 - 6:12 pm Rate this comment: (2) (3) This point system was only implemented to benefit NASCAR's favorites. At this moment, that just so happens to be the Toyotas plus Jimmie Johnson. How Kyle Larson is basiclly out of the championship third in points just proves how riduculous this point format is. 109. Clint posted: 10.22.2017 - 6:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Id be very surprised if nascar let a cutoff race come down to fuel mileage... theyll find a reason to throw a caution 110. John Lee Pettimore III posted: 10.22.2017 - 6:16 pm Rate this comment: (4) (1) 61 - There it is. 108 111. Sector posted: 10.22.2017 - 6:18 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "61 - There it is. 108" Expect the expected. 112. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 6:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Allmendinger spins caution is out 113. John Lee Pettimore III posted: 10.22.2017 - 6:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) NASCAR told the 47 to spin!!! 114. Doug posted: 10.22.2017 - 6:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) " 110. John Lee Pettimore III posted: 10.22.2017 - 6:16 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) 61 - There it is. 108 " Apparently, the 7 million viewers that permanently tuned out agreed with him. 115. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 6:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Keselowski speeding on pit road 116. John Lee Pettimore III posted: 10.22.2017 - 6:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 114 - Apparently, you're still watching. Why? 117. Sector posted: 10.22.2017 - 6:33 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Watching Kyle Busch and Kevin Harvick flying by Joey Logano just made me realize once again after leading the most laps last week at Talladega... Joey Logano has been absolutely horrendous and invisible. 118. Chase24Fan posted: 10.22.2017 - 6:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Another close but no cigar for 24. Moving on though. I guess he'll win sometime. 119. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 6:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Truex sweeps Kansas and gets his seventh win of the year. 120. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 6:43 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) An emotional win for Furniture Row Racing as their road crew fabricator Jim Watson passed away last night due to a heart attack. RIP 121. Sector posted: 10.22.2017 - 6:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Another close but no cigar for 24. Moving on though. I guess he'll win sometime." Phoenix is still available, however if he doesn't get it done there he won't be winning in the #24 in my opinion. That Dover race really killed it. 122. RaceFanX posted: 10.22.2017 - 6:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Larson, Stenhouse, Kenseth, and McMurray are eliminated. Rough day for Chip Ganassi Racing. 123. Sector posted: 10.22.2017 - 6:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) With Martinsville and Phoenix still roaming about, we may see Kyle Busch eclipse 2,000 laps led this season also along side Martin Truex Jr. 124. 42Fan posted: 10.22.2017 - 6:47 pm Rate this comment: (1) (6) Horrible race. This race made this year's Chicagoland race look like the 1992 Hooter's 500. Brian France and all his cronies need to be replaced. This season proves that the Toyotas have an obivous advantage. Please fire Brian France and all the executives at NASCAR. That is the only way to make NASCAR better. 125. Anthony posted: 10.22.2017 - 6:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) The Chase has claimed another one, with Larson's amazing season all meaningless 126. Altracing posted: 10.22.2017 - 6:52 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Good finishes for Chris Buescher finishing sixth and Almirola coming back to the track where he was injured and getting a ninth place finish 127. RaceFanX posted: 10.22.2017 - 6:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kurt Busch finishes second, his best finish since his Daytona 500 win at the start of the season. 128. John Lee Pettimore III posted: 10.22.2017 - 7:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hey Dougy - Did you cover your eyes when that big wreck happened, buddy. We all know how much those scare you. 129. Doug posted: 10.22.2017 - 7:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) " 116. John Lee Pettimore III posted: 10.22.2017 - 6:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 114 - Apparently, you're still watching. Why? " Apparently, you're a Kool Aid drinker. Some of us enjoy the sport even as we've seen that too much coincidence happens on a weekly basis for it to be purely coincidental. It's more fun when you understand it's an athletic program versus a sport. 130. Drakion posted: 10.22.2017 - 7:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) With this win Truex has doubled his career win count with 7 wins this season. 131. Drakion posted: 10.22.2017 - 7:01 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) 42Fan....do everyone a favor and just go away if you can't stop with the BS Toyota cheating whining after every single race..... 132. Son1c posted: 10.22.2017 - 7:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsor updates #1 - Cessna / Bomasada #17 - Wypall / Fastenal #19 - Arris High-Speed Modems #21 - Omnicraft Auto Parts / Quick Lane #37 - Scott Towels / Clorox / Bush's #47 - Dillon's ClickList / Butterfinger / Suave Men #48 - Lowe's / MarshallTown 133. John Lee Pettimore III posted: 10.22.2017 - 7:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 129 - No, I drink a lotta moonshine though. So you did enjoy the race? 134. nascar_vd /racing-reference.info posted: 10.22.2017 - 7:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Great race !!! Congratulations Truex, Jr. and FRR team! 135. Jason24 posted: 10.22.2017 - 7:18 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Back to back top tens for Almirola and Earnhardt Jr. 136. Sector posted: 10.22.2017 - 7:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The telecast/stream ended as soon as Truex took the white flag so I couldn't see the result until now... Chris Buescher in 6th?? This kid is good. For anyone who says the Chase is taking away championship opportunities from Kyle Larson... Do you honestly think without the Chase anyone can catch up to Truex Jr's massive point lead barring any problems of his own? Get real. 137. Sector posted: 10.22.2017 - 7:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Chase/Playoffs, same term, different name. I'd like to stick with Playoffs when it comes to NBA. NASCAR is weird for me to associate that term with. 138. Random Facts posted: 10.22.2017 - 7:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 500th career start for Kasey Kahne 100th career start for Matt DiBenedetto 50th career start for Ty Dillon 139. NewGuyOnTheBlock posted: 10.22.2017 - 7:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gutted for Larson, but there's always next year. He'll be a force to be reckoned with in the years to come. As for Truex, well, I have a question. Did everyone who is complaining about Toyota and Truex dominating complain when Jimmie won 5 straight and Chevy won the manufacturers championship every year? Or that time Ford kicked everyone's ass in the early 2000's? Or is it that these NASCAR 'fans' are giant hypocrites? 140. German 500 posted: 10.22.2017 - 7:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Truex Jr. is unbeatable on the 1.5-mile tri-ovals. Las Vegas, Kentucky, Chicago, Kansas... 141. Sector posted: 10.22.2017 - 7:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The reasonable Final Four: Martin Truex Jr, Kyle Busch, Kevin Harvick and Brad Keselowski. I think this would be the best final four ever since the inception of the elimination Playoffs. Martinsville Winner: Brad Keselowski or Kyle Busch (I think Kyle will end up leading 200+ laps here to get that 2,000 laps led mark, or get close enough to it and get there by Phoenix at least. Brad Keselowski will sweep having another clutch moment per usual). Texas Winner: Martin Truex Jr (1.5 dominance continues and its the only one he has yet to win at besides Atlanta. Homestead is a different config so I don't consider it along with the other 1.5 tracks honestly). Phoenix Winner: Chase Elliott or Kevin Harvick (Chase Elliott finally wins one and celebrates hard to be the first driver after Jeff Gordon to win in the #24, long overdue. Otherwise, Kevin Harvick is coming alive once again, since it is his playground after all). Homestead Winner: Kyle Larson's redemption. Champion: Martin Truex Jr., hands down, finishing second to Kyle Larson. 142. John Lee Pettimore III posted: 10.22.2017 - 7:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 139 - Yeah, hated it for Larson. And you know, the rules always suck when your team isn't winning. 143. BMan0213 posted: 10.22.2017 - 7:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "For anyone who says the Chase is taking away championship opportunities from Kyle Larson... Do you honestly think without the Chase anyone can catch up to Truex Jr's massive point lead barring any problems of his own? Get real." In all honesty it could have.... Hear me out first. Do you think we'd still have stages without having the Chase? I think we'd all agree that Truex has benefited the most from the stage format, so if we got rid of that he'd probably loose the most points out of any driver in the field. Larson's blown engine today probably would have crippled him under a season long points format, but he'd still probably have a chance at the championship instead of being eliminated like he was today. 144. Lucstar88 posted: 10.22.2017 - 8:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This was a good race, I enjoyed it. We can claim that Toyota is cheating but maybe just maybe CHEVY/FORD COULD ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT THE SPORT AND SPEND MORE $!!! Look at the HMS crew the last few weeks, it's been not the best, apart from the 24, if this happened 5-10 years ago, chevy would've bitched and complain about it like they did to ford back in the 90's. Every manufacturer bitches about the others, it's not gonna change if all of a sudden Ford wins all 36 races next year. Toyota spends a lot of money, and they can do that. I'm not a big fan of some of their drivers, but them being in the sport helps it. Look at the truck series, without Toyota, that would be dead. 145. Ed posted: 10.22.2017 - 8:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Umm, don't see how the 24 was involved in the big wreck when he was in front of Jones 146. Ed posted: 10.22.2017 - 8:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Also the 3 and 88 both just barely snuck through unscathed 147. Lucstar88 posted: 10.22.2017 - 8:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @143 I don't think the 78 wouldn't be not leading if you took away the stage points, cause the 42/18 also had a lot of them, would it be -134, no but i'd probably think he'd still be a race ahead. I'd do the calculations, but can't find the amount of stage points they've collected. 148. Maverick19 posted: 10.22.2017 - 8:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "As for Truex, well, I have a question. Did everyone who is complaining about Toyota and Truex dominating complain when Jimmie won 5 straight and Chevy won the manufacturers championship every year? Or that time Ford kicked everyone's ass in the early 2000's? Or is it that these NASCAR 'fans' are giant hypocrites?" It's because they can't stand seeing a "foreign" manufacturer dominate when 1) These cars are hardly stock, 2) Chevy and Ford outsource their production, and 3) Chevy and Ford could get back on top if they actually put more time and money into their program. 149. cjs3872 posted: 10.22.2017 - 9:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @104, the thing about the huge crash started by Erik Jones is that what happened to start the wreck is systematic of the young athletes across the sporting world, not just motorsports, and that is that they try to make the "hero move", instead of the more pragmatic thing to do. In this case, whatever happened to letting the car spin out when it got sideways to that degree, instead of trying to save it when it's obvious he isn't going to. If he lets the car spin out of the way, and there was plenty of room on the inside to do just that, instead of overcorrect, as he did, he could have just limped around to get tires and fuel and get back into the action, instead of wrecking himself, and about a dozen others, because that was a Talladega-sized incident on that restart. And it's not just Jones who does this, because most of the younger drivers are guilty of this very thing. The way Jones overcorrected is how Jim Malloy (1972) and Gordon Smiley (1982) were killed at Indy, how Danny Ongais had his huge crash at Indy 1981, and exactly what happened to Michael McDowell at Texas in 2008 or '09, when he had his enormous crash trying to qualify there. And there are MANY other examples of this kind of crash where a driver overcorrects a car needlessly, and winds up causing a major crash. 150. Sector posted: 10.22.2017 - 9:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I'd do the calculations, but can't find the amount of stage points they've collected." You'd have to go through each racing page and calculate every time Truex finished in the Top 10 in stages. Have fun with that (It's the opposite from position to points to provide you the proper calculations; Winner gets 10 points, second gets 9, third gets 8, fourth gets 7, fifth gets 6, sixth gets 5, seventh gets 4, eighth gets 3, ninth gets 2 and tenth gets 1). Regardless, I think we'd still have stage races anyway since Monster Energy brought it up I believe. We just wouldn't have "Playoff Points." Is it Truex's fault that Larson doesn't go for stage wins? No. They're playing the system and they're playing it right. Same was said about Jimmie Johnson with the Chase vs all those other guys during his reign of terror (Jeff Gordon, Carl Edwards & Kevin Harvick). We're bringing up "what ifs" now. Without the Playoffs format, Truex has a tad bit over full 2 races worth of points lead over Kyle Busch now. Thing is, everyone complains about performances not being much of an issue whatsoever and stage points offer those additional points for it. I do believe that Kyle Larson is a lesser version of Jeff Gordon to the Toyotas as Jeff was to the 90's Fords. Anyway back to the stage points; I would suggest to the webmaster that alongside the results on race page they should include the finishing positions per stages via column for those who finished in the Top 10. For example, Truex finished 8th in Stage 1 in this race, so under the S1 column should say 8th with an empty box in S2, since he wasn't in the Top 10. Blaney would have 8th under his S2 column. The Top 10 stage results under the race results is a tad confusion honestly and it would be more organized the way I suggested it placed in between Led and Points(Pts) or something. Also should Matt Kenseth should be listed as "Parked" rather than Crash? 151. Lucstar88 posted: 10.22.2017 - 9:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @150 If I would have time, i'd do that but I won't haha. I think it's considered crash, since I'd think park would mean you did something to piss nascar off, this was just forgetting the rule. 152. Sector posted: 10.22.2017 - 10:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "I think it's considered crash, since I'd think park would mean you did something to piss nascar off, this was just forgetting the rule." They mentioned "automatic DNF due to 'too many men over the wall,' which I would think should be labeled as "parked." 153. racefangurl posted: 10.23.2017 - 1:33 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Saw some Roush togetherness in this Toyota flavored race. Is this package pro-Toyota? Traded a pro-Chevy package for a pro-Toyota one, I guess. 154. Mannoroth posted: 10.23.2017 - 1:52 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) What a contrast - Kyle Larson scored solid finishes at Charlotte and Talladega, his engine ruined his chances in the final race of Round 2 at Kansas. Kyle Busch screwed up Charlotte and wrecked at Talladega, but scored a top 10 finish at Kansas and enough points to advance. 3 words - those playoff points... And I bet Kyle would beat JJ on points, if Larson's engine didn't blow, because that gap was under 10 points and the difference between them is 11 points. 155. Not Sure posted: 10.23.2017 - 1:52 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Excluding post-race penalties, this is the 11th race this season the winner hasn't received the most points. It happened once last year (Larson finished 2nd and led the most laps at Homestead). 4: 3rd most points (-11 behind the driver with the most points) 9: 4th (-8) (re-added Logano's points; ditto Hamlin at Darlington) 12: 4th (-16) 14: 5th (-11) 16: 3rd (-6) 17: 2nd (-2) 20: 4th (-4) 23: 3rd (-7) 27: 2nd (-3) 30: 3rd (-7) 32: 4th (-7) 156. Incognito posted: 10.23.2017 - 1:52 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) "As for Truex, well, I have a question. Did everyone who is complaining about Toyota and Truex dominating complain when Jimmie won 5 straight and Chevy won the manufacturers championship every year? Or that time Ford kicked everyone's ass in the early 2000's? Or is it that these NASCAR 'fans' are giant hypocrites?" Read any of the comment sections on this site from 2-10 years ago, and you'll have your answer. Hating JJ was always the cool thing to do. But these are completely different situations. JJ and Chad were just an unbeatable driver/crew chief combination (it's not like his Hendrick teammates were similarly dominant). What is happening now is that one manufacturer has a blatantly obvious technical advantage to the point that they dominate the practice charts every week and they have won every non-restrictor plate, non-road course race in the past 4+ months, except for the Indy attrition-fest and a couple of wins by the most talented driver in the sport today - Kyle Larson. 157. 924 posted: 10.23.2017 - 7:26 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Considering i'm a Chevy person, I was disapponted Kyle Larson didn't because he was the only real competitive non-Toyota(besides to some extent the 24, and to lesser extent the 48). 158. Ultimate Warrior #18 posted: 10.23.2017 - 7:26 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) If Toyota has any advantages over Chevy and Ford it's because they actually work as one unit unlike ford and Chevy. JGR and furniture row operates technically as a 6 car team everyone is sharing notes data information etc... on race weekends and in there respective shops. Ford and Chevy simply don't operate like that they technically operate under a ladder system you can clearly rank ford and Chevy teams based on performance. Toyota made it clear several years ago they wanted all there teams to compete as one so that's the only advantage I see. 159. Eric posted: 10.23.2017 - 8:43 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) 2017 champ, MTJ! 160. BuckshotJones posted: 10.23.2017 - 9:32 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Alright, which chaser(s) is Jones going to wreck next week? 161. JeffGordon24FanForever posted: 10.23.2017 - 9:40 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Cannot wait for Homestead! 162. JeffGordon24FanForever posted: 10.23.2017 - 9:46 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) Here's the total stage points, from MRN's website. Driver Points Wins T5 T10 Martin Truex 399 19 41 48 Kyle Busch 331 14 34 48 Kyle Larson 324 4 30 51 Kevin Harvick 289 5 29 42 Brad Keselowski 272 6 28 41 Matt Kenseth 225 3 21 38 Denny Hamlin 214 3 16 44 Ryan Blaney 203 4 18 38 Chase Elliott 195 3 18 34 Jimmie Johnson 170 1 17 34 Jamie McMurray 155 10 36 Erik Jones 143 13 30 Joey Logano 136 1 12 27 Kurt Busch 107 8 25 Clint Bowyer 89 1 6 22 Ryan Newman 53 3 13 Dale Jr. 44 2 12 Kasey Kahne 37 13 Ricky Stenhouse 36 4 8 Austin Dillon 27 10 Danica Patrick 24 3 5 Trevor Bayne 24 1 8 Daniel Suarez 24 1 2 6 AJ Allmendinger 21 1 6 Michael McDowel 11 3 David Ragan 9 1 3 Paul Menard 6 2 Ty Dillon 5 2 Darrell Wallace Jr. (i) 2 163. Ak47 posted: 10.23.2017 - 10:15 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @157 I'm not sure how you mean no non-Toyota contenders--the 2 and the 4 (and admittedly the 11) have been up there with Larson for the best outside of the 18 and 78 all season long. 164. Ak47 posted: 10.23.2017 - 10:17 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) Johnson Blaney and Chase are the heavy underdogs in my opinion because they're the only ones who failed to consistently battle for wins all season. Chase has been consistent but it may just be the speed in the HMS cars holding him back from a Larson-like run of success 165. Gray Gaulding's Distant Cousin posted: 10.23.2017 - 10:35 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) >Chase has been consistent but it may just be the speed in the HMS cars holding him back from a Larson-like run of success Only thin holding Chase back right now is Chase. 166. Gray Gaulding's Distant Cousin posted: 10.23.2017 - 10:45 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsor Updates #34 Love's / Speedco 167. Rob posted: 10.23.2017 - 11:20 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) To #63. Shades of February 1967 at Daytona. Mario won because he found out what the deal was and demanded the same stuff as Fred Lorenzen. Both were driving for the vaunted Holman-Moody Ford team and Lorenzen was the team's golden boy. 168. JeffGordon24FanForever posted: 10.23.2017 - 11:20 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) 2017 Standings Without Stage Points 1 Truex- 884 (still his year) 2 Kyle Busch- 816 3 Larson- 816 4 Hamlin- 811 5 Elliott- 802 (stage points have made him look worse this year) 6 Harvick- 801 7 Keselowski- 761 8 McMurray- 737 9 Kenseth- 706 10 Bowyer- 704 (kicked out of chase by dumb luck winners) 11 Johnson- 700 12 Newman- 689 13 Suarez- 675 (stage points hurt him and Newman) 14 Logano- 674 15 Kurt Busch- 673 16 Blaney- 633 (still is in Final Eight) 17 Stenhouse Jr.- 622 18 Jones-604 19 Austin Dillon- 579 20 Bayne- 577 21 Kahne- 573 22 Earnhardt Jr.-557 23 Menard- 551 24 Ty Dillon- 531 25 Buescher- 515 26 McDowell- 469 27 Allmendinger- 451 28 Patrick- 434 29 Ragan- 416 30 Almirola- 414 31 Dibenedetto- 333 32 Cassill-330 33 Whitt- 292 169. Sector posted: 10.23.2017 - 1:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Martin Truex Jr became just the 12th driver to lead at least 2,000 laps in a single season. He is currently the ONLY driver to not win a championship joining the elite group: Dale Jarrett, Jimmie Johnson, David Pearson, Kevin Harvick, Bobby Allison, Jeff Gordon, Dale Earnhardt, Rusty Wallace, Richard Petty, Cale Yarborough & Darrell Waltrip. Truex is definitely worthy to be 2017 champion. Hopefully nothing screws him over at Homestead. DThere could very well be a 13th before season's end as well, Kyle Busch isn't that far behind as he's led 1,789 so far, with Martinsville and Phoenix still on the schedule I'd say he has a very good shot to join the ranks. I personally think he'll be the one to beat at Martinsville again. 170. Sector posted: 10.23.2017 - 1:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ^Should clarify that's in the Modern Era (1972-present) 171. possum posted: 10.23.2017 - 6:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @169 - so now I wonder, is that something that ought to be easier now or harder? There's more races than there used to be, which should make it easier. But NASCAR's eliminated some of the shorter tracks, so fewer 500 lap races. And several of the 500 milers have been cut back to 400 miles, which also means 25% fewer opportunities to lead a lap. One could argue that there's more competitive cars now, but scanning over a few recent seasons versus 80's and 90's seasons suggests it's not a big difference (12-14 cars leading the bulk of the laps now, versus 10-12 in the earlier years). Conversely, one could argue that in the era of aero-push, it's easier for one driver to lead most of the laps in a race. I fear I don't feel inspired to research that one... 172. Sector posted: 10.23.2017 - 7:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "@169 - so now I wonder, is that something that ought to be easier now or harder?" Honestly I think manufacturers play a huge role now-a-days. The Toyota dominance is definitely helping Truex Jr out with the 1.5 mile track program... Same with Kyle Busch although I do think he's more talented anyway. 173. cjs3872 posted: 10.23.2017 - 8:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Not only the playoff points, @154, but also the bad finish itself. Finishing next-to-last is good (or bad) enough to torpedo a run at a championship in what's effectively a 3-race season, in this case, races 4-6 of the Chase. Remember that in 2014, Jeff Gordon finished second twice in the round of the Chase they're coming up to (Martinsville, Texas, and Phoenix), but a wreck at Texas in the race in-between, and the 36th place finish that resulted from it, was by itself, enough to knock him out of the battle at Homestead, even with the two runner-up finishes. That's why I don't like the round-by-round knock-out formula. A freak thing can knock a driver out of the championship with no chance to make up the lost ground. Why not just count ALL the Chase races after the reset as they normally would do during the season, which they used to do during most of the first decade of the Chase. That way, what happened to Kyle Larson, or any number of those involved in the wrecks at Talladega, wouldn't instantly knock them out. There's a chance a driver can recover over 10 races, but there's no chance a driver can recover over three, and the Chase is now basically three 3-race seasons followed a championship finale at Homestead. 174. racefangurl posted: 10.24.2017 - 1:22 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) 165, I've been told Chase needs to let his inner beast out to play. He's too nice, supposedly. 175. Sector posted: 10.24.2017 - 2:21 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @173 Or with Monster Energy as sponsor, maybe they will request NASCAR to rid of the Playoffs, keep stage racing and go with a season long championship once again. I like that idea. /fantasyends 176. Mannoroth posted: 10.24.2017 - 6:40 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) 173. Having a bad day in Round 3 will cost you more than having a bad day in Round 2. Why? Because only 8 drivers can fight for the title, not 12. After Round 1, there can still be some weaker drivers, who will be on those eliminating positions, so you don't have to worry that much. But in Round 3, this is where the fun ends and it's time to take it really seriously, because there are no weaker drivers. And that's the reason even Gordon wasn't safe with two 2nd place finishes (as long as at least 4 other drivers don't have one bad day as well). 177. cjs3872 posted: 10.24.2017 - 2:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I wont argue with you there, Mannoroth (#176). And had the given even a bonus for wins, Gordon's two runner-ups would have been good enough to get into the championship finale, even with the 36th place finish (remember that he won four times that season and Ryan Newman, who beat him out by 1 point, never won that season). My overall point was that the Chase is really three 3-race seasons, and a bad finish in one race in either Round 2 or round 3 can doom a driver, and that's something to watch regarding the top Toyotas, because engines failures was what knocked Martin Truex, Jr. out last year, and every now and then, the Toyota teams run into a batch of bad parts, and if that happens, especially at Texas where the Toyotas can use their horsepower advantage, then all bets are off as to who gets into that championship finale at Homestead, because Jimmie Johnson or Denny Hamlin are the likely favorites at Martinsville and Harvick and Keselowski may be the guys to beat at Phoenix. All races in the Chase should count equally, and they don't. It's as simple as that. They used to, but not any more. 178. possum posted: 10.24.2017 - 2:12 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @172 - hmm, not sure that makes any difference. Typically there's two or three drivers who lead the bulk of the laps in a season, so if the contest for most is between all Toyota drivers, or drivers of several brands, it seems to me it's the same thing. On a related note, I see Pearson lead 2658 laps in 1973, a year in which he only ran 5338 laps total. That means he led half the laps of the races he entered. We will not see that happen again. 179. 1995 Subaru WRX STi posted: 10.24.2017 - 5:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Or with Monster Energy as sponsor, maybe they will request NASCAR to rid of the Playoffs, keep stage racing and go with a season long championship once again. I like that idea." Monster is the one who came up with all that. Just like Nextel (*cough*BillFranceJr.*cough*) came up with the Chase. "Matt Kenseth is an expert in unfairly removing competitors from playoff contention, so I can't feel terribly sorry for him." Karma is a firm believer in equal exchange. Karma will give you something but also take it back. "Kenseth said he didn't know or understand the rules. His crew chief and crew should have - that's their job." It isn't a new rule. Teams asked for it and they got. It is another case of "Be careful what you wish for." Will the teams learn? Doubt it. If I was NASCAR i'd keep doing this while laughing all the way because they aren't learning. Same for the drivers. 180. Sector posted: 10.24.2017 - 6:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Or with Monster Energy as sponsor, maybe they will request NASCAR to rid of the Playoffs, keep stage racing and go with a season long championship once again. I like that idea." "Monster is the one who came up with all that. Just like Nextel (*cough*BillFranceJr.*cough*) came up with the Chase." That's what I just said....lmao 181. Spen posted: 01.02.2018 - 12:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Apparently, Cope's run was so awful, it didn't even get listed on the loop data. 182. TeamDCR fan posted: 01.02.2018 - 9:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Derrike was never out of the last position. Every few laps he was going to the garage because they were doing R&D stuff. Not to mention the poor car was a turd. 183. Mr.Victory posted: 03.07.2018 - 9:09 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Cars Involved on lap 198: 1, 77, 19, 14, 20, 3, 43, 88, 22, 95, 6, 10, 31, 22, 5, 27(contact), 24, 2. 184. Gdj_24 posted: 05.28.2018 - 1:31 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Not much of an accomplishment, but this was BJ McLeod's first top 30 finish. 185. Spen posted: 11.05.2018 - 6:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) To date this is the last time that a plurality of drivers were born in the '80's. They tied the '90's drivers two more times before the season ended, but have been behind for every (points paying) race in 2018. 186. Scott25 posted: 11.05.2018 - 7:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @185 you mean a majority? Plurality just means more than one. 187. Mile501 posted: 11.13.2019 - 8:36 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) After realizing that it is difficult to find the point standings before each playoff reset (this website, along with NASCAR's official reports, only shows points after the reset), I am posting them for each playoff elimination race. Here are the points at the conclusion of this race, before the reset (with drivers who won a race during this round listed first): 2017 Round of 12 1. Martin Truex, Jr. (2 wins) 2. Brad Keselowski -30 (1 win) 3. Denny Hamlin -25 4. Kevin Harvick -27 5. Chase Elliott -37 6. Ryan Blaney -43 7. Kyle Busch -53 8. Jimmie Johnson -57 -- Eliminated -- 9. Kyle Larson -66 10. Matt Kenseth -87 11. Ricky Stenhouse, Jr. -103 12. Jamie McMurray -105 188. JSPorts posted: 11.13.2019 - 8:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Thanks for posting. Those are difficult to find. I believe Jayski has them. 189. Mile501 posted: 11.14.2019 - 5:59 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @186 - Plurality actually means the highest percentage, but less than 50%. For example, if 3 people were running in an election, and received votes tallying 40%, 30%, and 30%, then the winner received a plurality but not a majority since it was under 50%. @188 - Jayski has that data for this year, but not for prior years (as far as I can tell), so I am working on posting it here for 2014-2018. This year, NASCAR apparently started to release both versions of the standings (before and after the reset), so Jayski has those PDFs available for 2019. 190. Anonymous posted: 04.01.2020 - 7:03 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think likewise with Menard, and Kasey Kahne I did see A.J Allmendinger spin in that wreck as well It should 17 cars involved I think That would at least Tied Spring Talladega crash in terms cars involved in the accident. But it was the largest 1.5 Crash I think in Nascar history. Surpassing I think Maybe Charlotte in a couple of races where'd I think 14 crashed including the 07 Coke 600. 191. Foote posted: 04.01.2020 - 5:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Erik Jones used to have a major problem with overcorrecting his car every time it got sideways. The crash in this one seems to have fixed him-- not only was he in the top 5 but he wrecked many other Chase bubble drivers who were running strong with him. He hasn't overcorrected since. 192. Rich posted: 09.25.2020 - 11:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Rick Allen, Jeff Burton and Steve Letarte were the commentators. 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