|| *Comments on the 2019 Gander RV 400:* View the most recent comment <#311> | Post a comment <#post> 1. TeamDCRfan posted: 07.23.2019 - 9:43 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) RWR brings back the 53. I wonder who'll drive the car, since BJ is in Iowa for the weekend? 2. William24ByronFan posted: 07.23.2019 - 10:11 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @1 No, because Leight is in the 4, Repko in the 01, and Vargas in the 15. 3. TeamDCRfan posted: 07.23.2019 - 11:53 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Oops. Thought I saw BJ on there. Must have been looking at the owners section. 4. Anonymous posted: 07.23.2019 - 2:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) guessing who is in the RWR cars will be more fun than watching this race 5. 34McDowellFan posted: 07.23.2019 - 2:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 3 Rick Ware cars with no drivers listed That's the most Rick Ware thing ever. Ware, Currey, and McLeod are my guesses for the drivers 6. NASCARHendrickMotorsportsFan posted: 07.23.2019 - 3:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #5 B.J McLeod, JJ Yeley and Bayley Currey are my guesses to drive Rick Ware Racing this week at pocono 7. Mike posted: 07.23.2019 - 5:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #5: Yeley's running the Xfinity race. 8. Anthony posted: 07.23.2019 - 7:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I would like to see JJC get a shot at one of the RWR cars 9. Bayne&BowmanFan posted: 07.23.2019 - 7:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) NASCAR's gonna put down the PJ1 grip-strip stuff in all three corners, but in different grooves. In turn one it'll be in the third lane, in turn two it'll be in the second lane, and turn three will have the third lane (and maybe the first lane). 10. Sandy posted: 07.23.2019 - 8:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @8 if I had to guess It would probably be Kansas 11. Sandy posted: 07.23.2019 - 8:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) @8 or Norm Benning 12. 34McDowellFan posted: 07.23.2019 - 9:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) McLeod isn't running Xfinity at Iowa, its only the 2nd Xfinity race of the year he's skipping so I expect him to be here Currey is in the Truck Series so it makes sense for him to run I would say Yeley could be an option, but he's driving for RSS this weekend in Iowa 13. Sandy posted: 07.23.2019 - 11:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I wouldn't be surprised if rick ware had Josh Bilicki or Stanton Barrett race in one of the 3 cars this weekend 14. 34McDowellFan posted: 07.23.2019 - 11:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Bilicki is in Iowa 15. TeamDCRfan posted: 07.23.2019 - 11:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I could see it now: Norm Benning makes first Cup series start in 26 years. 16. Sandy posted: 07.24.2019 - 7:45 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @14 no He was in the 93 on the preliminary entry list at lowa but was replaced by Camden Murphy 17. Anonymous posted: 07.24.2019 - 7:46 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @14 Josh Bilicki has been replaced with Camden Murphy in the #93 for Iowa 18. 34McDowellFan posted: 07.24.2019 - 10:19 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Oh I didn't see Bilicki had been replaced In that case, yeah I could see him in one of the cars this weekend 19. Jimmie4life posted: 07.24.2019 - 10:51 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) All I hope is that this track will produce 1 good race... but for Pocono, it seems a tall task. 20. Anonymous posted: 07.24.2019 - 4:06 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) #51-BJ McLeod #52-Austin Theriault #53-Josh Bilicki From Nascar Website 21. Hi posted: 07.24.2019 - 5:22 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Yay. Theriault and Bilicki 22. NASCARHendrickMotorsportsFan posted: 07.24.2019 - 7:46 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Theriault is back in the cup series! Hopefully he can get a good finish better than his first start. 23. rm posted: 07.24.2019 - 8:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Pocono is the track where he had his worst two finishes during his 2017 ARCA championship season, besides blowing a tire and crashing at Kansas after already clinching the title. Not too optimistic but I'll be pulling for him to do well nonetheless! 24. 34McDowellFan posted: 07.24.2019 - 10:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Theriault is a happy surprise 25. Chase9Fan posted: 07.24.2019 - 10:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Predicting the usual Pocono snoozer. 26. Corey posted: 07.24.2019 - 11:26 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) NASCAR has made a couple of rule changes regarding pit stops. 1. They have removed the "arms length" requirement in regards to uncontrolled tire violations. Tires will be considered uncontrolled if they create a safety issue or interfere/impede another competitor's pit stop. 2. During 4 tire stops, the outside tires must be removed first. This is to limit the amount of tine guys are on the outer half of the box, while other cars are departing. Its usually not an issue anywheres but Watkins Glen. Both rule adjustments will go into effect this weekend. 27. Chase9Fan posted: 07.25.2019 - 3:19 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) 26. Glad to hear #1, it was a stupid rule to begin with. SO glad they are being a bit more lax on it. 28. Jimmie4life posted: 07.25.2019 - 12:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) About time that uncontrolled tire's are actually real uncontrolled, and not arm away, and penalty. 29. Anthony posted: 07.25.2019 - 7:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 27's sponsor will be Lehigh Valley Phantoms Hockey http://www.phantomshockey.com/lehigh-valley-to-sponsor-2-nascar-series-rides-at-pocono-raceway-this-weekend/ 30. Jimmie48JohnsonFan posted: 07.25.2019 - 7:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This race is going to fun to watch. 31. Bayne&BowmanFan posted: 07.26.2019 - 12:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick is running a Gen-X paint scheme this weekend, I guess to compensate for the millennial colors earlier this year. 32. Anonymous posted: 07.27.2019 - 9:03 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) So with the PJ1 on the track, that makes Pocono the "Sticky Tricky Triangle" 33. Altracing posted: 07.27.2019 - 10:11 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Larson and Elliott have both wrecked their cars in first practice so they will go to the rear for tomorrows race 34. George posted: 07.27.2019 - 10:22 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @33: The 42 & the 9 had only a slight chance at top 10s anyway barring some sort of fluke, but hopefully will be able to work their way back into the top 15. 35. Anonymous posted: 07.27.2019 - 10:23 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Larson not doing his poor recent outings much help with going to a back up AGAIN lol 36. Chase9Fan posted: 07.27.2019 - 10:36 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) 33, i thought that was only after qualifying? But ahhh well, Alan is going to have to take chances to get him up there... oh wait, he never does that. 37. Anthony2 posted: 07.27.2019 - 10:53 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Chase Elliott just can't catch a break this summer. Since Michigan, he's gone six straight races without top10 & his average finish in that span has been a very dismal 24.5. And he crashed in practice today. Geez this kid! 38. David posted: 07.27.2019 - 11:21 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Don't look now but.... DiBenedetto was pretty fast again in p1 and is running strong early in p2 as well. With the Chevys likely relegated to being also-rans again this week except for perhaps 1 or 2 of them, there's a solid chance that the Burrito could find his way to a second consecutive top 10 or damn close to it, and I hope he does. 39. Yeet posted: 07.27.2019 - 12:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) How about Ryan Preece 7th and Michael McDowell 10th? Qualifying sure is going to be important and we're likely to see a pretty diverse lineup on Sunday 40. JohnG posted: 07.27.2019 - 12:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @38 Usually final practice shows who is strong and who isn't. That is when all of the drivers are in race trim. The other practices aren't near as important. I'm not saying he won't be strong. But final practice is the important one. 41. Mile501 posted: 07.27.2019 - 2:13 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Pocono has announced a tentative schedule for their 2020 doubleheader. Highlights include: - Saturday Truck race is 80 laps - Sunday Xfinity race is 90 laps - Saturday Cup race is a TBD length - Sunday Cup race is 140 laps - The lead lap cars from Saturday's Cup race will be inverted to set the field for Sunday's Cup race More Details: https://www.jayski.com/2019/07/27/2020-pocono-raceway-doubleheader-weekend-details-announced/ I am especially curious to hear thoughts on the inversion. Personally, I like that idea. I didn't feel like a whole field inversion would work out very well, as slow as some of those back cars are, but I was hoping for some kind of partial inversion and that's what they are planning to do. 42. TooSmartForThis posted: 07.27.2019 - 2:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Gimmicks have worked well for the sport so far, so why not? 43. Canadianfan posted: 07.27.2019 - 2:29 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) F2 inverts it's Top 8 finishers for their sprint race. 44. Mile501 posted: 07.27.2019 - 2:29 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Because of the length of the race, I don't view the inversion as a gimmick. 350 miles is more than enough time to get from 20th or 25th back to the front if the driver and car are good enough. It's not like an all-star race where the field used to be inverted and they only had 20-40 laps to get back to the front. I think this will make for good, but still relatively fair, racing. I'm glad it's only a partial inversion, though. Could you imagine (for example) a Rick Ware front row? 45. TooSmartForThis posted: 07.27.2019 - 2:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It is an artificial rearranging of the grid to theoretically make more passing happen. That's what a gimmick is, no matter what series does it. 46. Sector posted: 07.27.2019 - 2:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) So we are unsure about the length of Saturday's race? Does that mean the pole is declared to whoever finishes last on the lead lap for Sunday's race or is the Pole not rewarded (similar to the qualifying cancellation due to rain) for Sunday's race, but only earned for Saturday's race? 47. rm posted: 07.27.2019 - 2:46 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Field inversions are one of the oldest tricks in the book, that's been a local short track staple for decades. The old NASCAR elite/regional divisions used inversions for years before those series were shuttered. 48. TooSmartForThis posted: 07.27.2019 - 3:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (3) It is, by definition, a gimmick. It was a gimmick then, and it's a gimmick now. If you think the highest stock car division in the world should be run like its a local short track series that's a whole other argument. 49. Corey posted: 07.27.2019 - 3:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @48 So what is your idea on how to set the lineup for race 2? Finishing order? Using each drivers fastest lap in race 1? 50. A.J. posted: 07.27.2019 - 3:53 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) This being Pocono it's a virtual certainty that the same old cars will be up front in race 1, so inverting and giving some of the underprivileged (but still lead lap) cars a small boost to start race 2 doesn't bother me much, gimmick or not. It's not like Corey LaJoie is going to be on the pole for the second race, it'll be someone more along the lines of Alex Bowman or Kyle Larson. 51. Unknown posted: 07.27.2019 - 3:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Pinty's and K&N set Race 2 grids based on Race 1 fastest laps at their double headers. 52. JSPorts posted: 07.27.2019 - 3:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Actually, it'll probably be someone further back. Last race at Pocono, there were 28 lead-lap finishers (in a 400-mile race.) There will likely be around 30 lead-lap cars in a 350-mile race, I'd imagine. If they'd done this last July, the top-5 starters in race 2 would've been J.J. Yeley, Matt DiBenedetto, Joey Logano, Aric Almirola & Ty Dillon. 53. JSPorts posted: 07.27.2019 - 3:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I honestly wouldn't care if they did a full-field inversion, provided that drivers who crashed in race 1 & needed backup cars would have to go to the back before the start of race 2. 54. JohnG posted: 07.27.2019 - 4:09 pm Rate this comment: (3) (3) To the people upset about the inversion: You have to accept that this is what NASCAR is now. It's gimmick/artificial/unfair racing. It's the main reason I stopped watching. 1. Lucky Dog/Waive Around - Where guys are just handed their laps back. 2. Double File Restarts - At a good amount of tracks you want to be 1 position lower than where you currently are because of what lane you are in. Wanting to be 1 position worse than your current spot goes completely against the whole point and DNA of racing. 3. The new 2019 package that the drivers admit isn't real racing and takes in large part the skill out of driving, well, the ones who aren't willing to bite their tongues and stay quiet because they don't want to get hit with the huge secret NASCAR $ penalties given for bad mouthing the sport. 4. The final winner takes all race where a hot dog wrapper or a wreck that there was nothing they could have done to avoid can cost a dominant driver from winning the championship they deserve. 5. In terms of determining the champion the Daytona 500, World 600, Southern 500, and Brickyard 400 are at best the 11th most important race. 6. Ever since the COT turning the sport into the IROC series giving everyone basically the same car to create parity. 7. NASCAR creating rules in off-seasons to penalize teams that have gotten out to large advantages. Brad Keselowski admitted this that one year when he complained about NASCAR not neutralizing Toyota's dominance like they had done in year's past to the dominant teams. FYI they did it during that off-season. Recent Past. Fake debry cautions that are used to artificially bunch up the field when there is no debry. (Is that how you spell debry? Spell check isn't helping. I'm putting recent past because I've been told by others that they stopped with these once the stages came in.) Recent Past. The previous playoff format before the knockout system where it was basically a 10 race season in terms of determining the champion. Recent Past. The knockout qualifying system with the 2019 package where luck in large part determined your qualifying spot. 9 of these 10 gimmicks are from the last 12 years. Well, make it 10 of 11. To be upset about NASCAR being unfair or artificial for adding a gimmick is illogical. Nascar IS gimmicks. That's just the way it is now. 55. Chase9Fan posted: 07.27.2019 - 4:41 pm Rate this comment: (1) (3) 54 couldn't agree more. I hate the lucky dog rule. If you get a lap down, earn your way back. Not a huge fan of a one race winner take all either. I don't mind the chase format. Just line the top 10 up, separate them by points they earned, then turn them loose for 10 races. Winner takes all. 56. Ultimate_Warrior_#18 posted: 07.27.2019 - 4:53 pm Rate this comment: (3) (2) @54 Let's take a quick flashback i watched the last race where drivers raced back to the caution here's what happened DJ wrecks his car is sitting in the middle of the track helpless about 4 guys flying through turns 3-4 at full speed almost hitting DJ because they wanted a lap back just imagine if someone would of T boned him in the drivers side. The lucky dog rule isn't a gimmick it was necessary for safety reasons i will never understand why fans complain about that particular rule calling it a gimmick. 57. JohnG posted: 07.27.2019 - 4:58 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) @55 Here's the major problem with the Chase. The first 27 races were basically a R&D session. Not completely, but in a large part yes. The drivers winning a lot of those races were won by the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, .... best car under normal circumstances because a LOT of guys were R&Ding because as long as you made the Chase the bonus points for Regular Season performance were basically meaningless in terms of the final standings. Now of course you had to make the Chase first but the thing is a lot of the top drivers knew they were going to be after 10, 12, 14, 16 or so races. Statistically they would have to run HORRIBLE and have TONS of DNFs in order not to. The top drivers prepared for the final 10 races all season long. If you wanted to win a championship you needed to prepare all season for those final 10 with focusing as little as you could on the first 27. So logically what do you do if the championship is a 10 race season and you know you're going to be in the Chase? You R&D and prepare like crazy to have the best cars for those 10 races. That is why I HATED the Chase. I prefer the current system over it because at least every race means something now. 58. JohnG posted: 07.27.2019 - 5:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @56 You can easily not race back to the caution and still not allow drivers their lap back. .... Look, all sports are artificial and unfair to a certain point. Nothing in NASCAR is as bad as the NFL Draft and how it rewards losing. However, no sport comes close to the number of unfair gimmicks NASCAR has. No. Where. Close. My whole point was that with the way NASCAR is now that it's illogical to complain about NASCAR being unfair or gimmicky because Nascar IS gimmicks now. .... I forgot Start & Park in my list. 59. Chase9Fan posted: 07.27.2019 - 5:10 pm Rate this comment: (1) (4) 57. Meh, I just prefer to go back to the old method than a one race determine champion race where the rest of the field are scared to death to get close to the 4 championship guys haha. Race back to the caution to get a lap back. It worked for years. And i know i will get down voted for this, but this is what i mean by the fan base today is no where near the rough neck guys of the past. Is what it is. 60. Maverick19 posted: 07.27.2019 - 5:11 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @55 The problem is no one earned their way back on the lead lap when the leader simply let a ton of cars by when they raced back to the caution. That to me is worse than the lucky dog. 61. Anon posted: 07.27.2019 - 5:19 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) @59 56 explained exactly why they don't, and shouldn't race back on caution. Anyone that watched what almost happened to Dale Jarrett understands why we don't do that anymore. 62. Corey posted: 07.27.2019 - 5:24 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) @59 No other racing series does that. Get rid of the lucky dog aspect, but when the caution comes out, you slow down. I don't see the wave around as a gimmick. There is no need for tail end cars to be right in front of the leaders on a restart. Again, no other racing series allows this. You want to talk gimmicks, F1 allows all lapped cars to get a lap back during safety cars. Regardless of where they are in relation to the leader and the safety car. 63. Sector posted: 07.27.2019 - 5:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "@55 The problem is no one earned their way back on the lead lap when the leader simply let a ton of cars by when they raced back to the caution. That to me is worse than the lucky dog." What did you think about Kyle Larson at Darlington last season? He let two cars (I believe?) by before winning one of the stages to give their laps back. Austin Dillon is the only one I can remember off the top of my head. 64. Anonymous posted: 07.27.2019 - 5:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Race will dominate with Logano and Kyle Busch with Kyle winning. 65. Sector posted: 07.27.2019 - 5:25 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) The way the competition is now-a-days, the wave-around & lucky dogs make sense. You can't easily get a lap back as you can in the 70's or 80's. Regardless of how everyone want to look at the past statistics; We will still have the same drivers, though the win count would be differently most likely to each individual drivers, winning all the races. So it doesn't really matter in the end. Do you really think without the Chase that Jimmie Johnson would win less than he did? He might have won more, but he's already won so many to be considered the greatest. The Chase/Playoffs hasn't really changed the scenery of the champions all that much, other than the fact that Jimmie Johnson and Jeff Gordon would have rotated (we'd still have a "third" seven-time champion) and Carl Edwards would be a two time champion instead of Kurt Busch being one. In the end they are all worthy. Kurt Busch is an IROC champion. Kyle Busch scored the most points in 2018. Joey Logano is somewhat iffy, but his 2015 is a really solid argument because of his Martinsville feud with Matt Kenseth that gave Kevin Harvick his second of third most points-scored season. Joey's a points leader as we enter this race as well so he has a shot at achieving that if he can hold of Kyle Busch. You have to be more open-minded about how things are rather than viewing it as a "false champion" perspective. 66. Chase9Fan posted: 07.27.2019 - 5:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) I don't mind the wave around, at least you still get a bit penalized for it if you take the gamble, but get rid of the lucky dog. You haven't earned to be back on the lead lap just because you are the first car one lap down 3/4 a lap behind the leader. 67. Chase9Fan posted: 07.27.2019 - 5:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 62. So are you suggesting if you are a lap down, tough break? Or are you suggesting just letting everyone get back a lap? I am confused. 68. GoPM21 posted: 07.27.2019 - 5:50 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) @63 That's how it used to be back in the day. It was a gesture towards your fellow competitors. Maybe they'd repay the favor. I don't have an issue with it. The free pass reeks of participation trophies. 69. Anonymous posted: 07.27.2019 - 5:53 pm Rate this comment: (3) (1) Racing back to the caution with a wrecked car sometimes sitting in the middle of the racing groove was unbelievably dangerous but you'll never convince certain people that who only watch through their nostalgia colored glasses. 70. TTaylor944 posted: 07.27.2019 - 5:57 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) With the exception of the playoffs, nearly every significant change NASCAR has made in the last 15 years has been to replicate rules you would see at a local short track. "Fans" keep saying they want NASCAR to be more like the grassroots racing of America. So what is it that you all really want, other than to complain? 71. Corey posted: 07.27.2019 - 6:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm with you in regards to the wave around and lucky dogs. What I don't want is the way they do it in F1. 72. Chase9Fan posted: 07.27.2019 - 6:05 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) 69. I have no idea why people think nostalgia when you have been a fan of the sport for 30 years is a bad thing. Either you are young and it shows, or you just simply like this way better, which is your right. But the knock on what people like from the past is idiotic. 73. rm posted: 07.27.2019 - 6:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) You're paying attention to the wrong part of that comment if that's the part of it you're taking offense to. You cannot seriously be advocating for bringing back racing to the caution, are you? Nothing bad ever happened with that, not at all!: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPuflGrtrSQ 74. Sector posted: 07.27.2019 - 6:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @72 That means you're just stuck in your own ways and dislike changes. That isn't wrong by any means, but the world will continue to revolve without you. 75. JohnG posted: 07.27.2019 - 6:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) For the record I never think or get upset about how unfair NASCAR is now-a-days. I don't dwell on it at all. When I made my original post about the NASCAR gimmicks it wasn't to complain about NASCAR or say how miserable I was about current NASCAR. I made it for people out there who think the Pocono inversion is unfair. I made it to tell them that is how NASCAR is now in a lot of ways. To the people that keep mentioning the Dale Jarrett situation you can easily not race back to the caution and still not give people their laps back. Super easy. I said that before but people aren't reading it. @59 Chase9Fan "Meh, I just prefer to go back to the old method than a one race determine champion race where the rest of the field are scared to death to get close to the 4 championship guys haha." I'm not a fan of either. But I do like this format a bit better over the Chase era. I can totally understand why someone else wouldn't. For me, I hated that for the first 27 races a lot of times top drivers were R&Ding and the winner of the race might not have won without all the R&Ding. @60 Maverick "The problem is no one earned their way back on the lead lap when the leader simply let a ton of cars by when they raced back to the caution. That to me is worse than the lucky dog." You are correct that wasn't fair but I would add that to the list of unfair NASCAR gimmicks because to me that is more fair than the lucky dog/waive around. Not many people got their lap back. Lots of people on multiple occasions do now. @65 Sector Good counter arguments Sector. I do have some objections though. "The way the competition is now-a-days, the wave-around & lucky dogs make sense. You can't easily get a lap back as you can in the 70's or 80's." The amount of people that get their laps back with the waive around/lucky dog is a lot higher than the guys who used to be able to unlap themselves. A lot a lot. "Regardless of how everyone want to look at the past statistics; We will still have the same drivers, though the win count would be differently most likely to each individual drivers, winning all the races. So it doesn't really matter in the end. Do you really think without the Chase that Jimmie Johnson would win less than he did? He might have won more, but he's already won so many to be considered the greatest." "In the end they are all worthy. Kurt Busch is an IROC champion. Kyle Busch scored the most points in 2018. Joey Logano is somewhat iffy, but his 2015 is a really solid argument because of his Martinsville feud with Matt Kenseth that gave Kevin Harvick his second of third most points-scored season. Joey's a points leader as we enter this race as well so he has a shot at achieving that if he can hold of Kyle Busch. You have to be more open-minded about how things are rather than viewing it as a "false champion" perspective." You are totally correct. I didn't hate the Chase era because the best guy didn't win the title. Everyone knew it was a 10 race season and prepared accordingly. The best did win. I used to have such a pet peeve when people would say Jeff Gordon is a 7 time champion. Without the Chase he wins 7 titles. Without the Chase Jimmie Johnson is a 5 time champion. So Jeff Gordon has 7 titles Jimmie has 5. Do people honestly think that a driver is sitting there going I don't care if we win the NASCAR championship, all I care about is that if people Google the points standings without the Chase that I would be champion? Of course not! Of course drivers raced differently because of the Chase. They knew the regular season was R&D central. The best drivers still won in the Chase format. The only exception I see is 2011 and Tony Stewart. But hey in all sports certain teams get hot streaks in the playoffs. The reason I hated the Chase era was because a good amount of times the race winners in the regular season shouldn't have been the race winners. You're celebrating a race win because the real winner R&Ded too much. Wtf. I never felt a Chase champion was a false champion. As far as the winner takes all races. Kevin Harvick in 2014 was the fastest car during the season. His average finish isn't good because tons of times he would lead a lot, dominate, and finish 25th or 35th. 2015 I'm fine with Kyle. 2016 ditto about Jimmie Johnson getting hot like 2011 Stewart. 2017 Truex was the best. The only year I don't like is 2018. As far as not rightful champion I only have 2018 between 2004-2018. However, its only been 5 years of this system. Newman came very close in 2014. There are going to be years where the rightful guy gets wrecked and doesn't win. The top 2 of 4 or top 3 of 4 wreck each other. Fluke mechanical failures, the Suarez title year where someone will goof up on the double sided restart and cost half the final 4. And like I mentioned with the Double File restarts and how unfair they are you are going to have years where being 1 spot worse then someone ended up allowing someone to win the title because they were in the better line. Is it fair for someone who could have tied the 7 title record to end up with 4 because of the things I wrote above? No one can win 7 titles again and that's not fair to the current drivers who could have normally. @69 Read my comment about the Dale Jarrett situation. It would be super, super, super easy to not have people race under caution and not get their laps back. Do you guys think we are living in 1970? We have some pretty amazing technology. It wouldn't be difficult. @70 Wtf are you talking about? No one here ever approved this stuff just because it is done in modern short track racing. No one ever mentioned modern short track racing or its current rules. 76. JohnG posted: 07.27.2019 - 7:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @74 Sector 72 That means you're just stuck in your own ways and dislike changes. That isn't wrong by any means, but the world will continue to revolve without you. I think there is a conception that me, Chase9Fan, or others complaining are spending all of this time upset and miserable thinking about what went wrong with NASCAR. I don't, I only mentioned it for the reason I mentioned in my last post. I never see Chase9Fan dwell on this stuff. It was a topic of discussion so we put our 2 cents in. That is all. 77. JohnG posted: 07.27.2019 - 7:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) No one here objected to my argument about the Chase being all about the final 10 races. Even though that is the case I still want to post these stats to back up my point. Here you go. .......................................................................... Without Regular Season Bonus Points: 2004: Jimmie Johnson wins title instead of 2nd Jeff Gordon 2nd instead of 3rd Kurt Busch 3rd instead of first 2005: Carl Edwards finishes 2nd instead of 3rd. Greg Biffle finishes 3rd instead of 2nd. 2006: Denny Hamlin finishes 2nd instead of 3rd. Matt Kenseth finishes 3rd instead of 2nd. 2007: Jeff Burton finishes 6th instead of 8th Tony Stewart 7th instead of 6th Kurt Busch 8th instead of 7th 2008: Matt Kenseth finishes 10th instead of 11th Dale Earnhardt Jr. finishes 11th instead of 12th Kyle Busch finishes 12th instead of 10th 2009: No Changes 2010: Kevin Harvick finishes 2nd instead of 3rd Denny Hamlin finishes 3rd instead of 2nd. Jeff Gordon 8th instead of 9th Kyle Busch 9th instead of 8th 2011: Denny Hamlin 8th instead of 9th Ryan Newman 9th instead of 10th Jeff Gordon 10th instead of 9th 2012: Matt Kenseth 6th instead of 7th Kevin Harvick 7th instead of 8th Denny Hamlin 8th instead of 6th 2013: Dale Earnhardt Jr. 4th instead of 5th Kyle Busch 5th instead of 4th Carl Edwards 11th instead of 12th Kasey Kahne 12th instead of 11th Average finishes of champion Non-R&D Era (1980-2003, 2017-) vs. R&D Era (2004-2013). Please remember when viewing these that before the Chase and before the 21st Century there used to be A LOT more mechanical problems and wrecks which would obviously really, really, really hurt average finishes. Also, please keep in mind that before the Chase format there was more points racing by the championship leader to protect his lead compared to the points resetting of the R&D Era and that would make average finishes go lower. For 2018 I think everyone can admit that under any non points reset final race format that Harvick or Kyle Busch win the 2018 title. They are listed as champions going forward for 2018 instead of Logano in my research here. For these stats I use the halfway stats of 2019 and keeping the average finish and doubling the wins as the 2019 stats. There is no other way I can think of to project 2019 end of season results for this without it getting messy. With that Kyle Busch is the points leader/"champion" because he has the most Playoff Points at the time. He has a 7.3 average finish and 4 wins which becomes 8. Martin Truex at the time has 4 wins which becomes 8. Average finishes of champion non-R&D Era (1980-2003, 2017-) vs. R&D Era (2004-2013). * = R&D Era 05.7 (1998) 05.9 (1987) 06.6 (1988) 06.8 (1999) 07.0 (1983) 07.2 (1981) 07.3 (1985) 07.3 (2019) 07.4 (1986) 07.4 (2000) 08.0 (1990) 08.0 (1994) 08.2 (1980) 08.2 (1993) 08.2 (1996) 08.3 (1984) 08.3 (2018) 08.6 (1991) 08.8 (1990) 08.8 (2018) 09.1 (1982) 09.4 (2017) 09.5 (1995) 09.6 (1997) 09.7 (2006) * 09.9 (2005) * 10.1 (2012) * 10.2 (2003) 10.3 (1989) 10.5 (2008) * 10.6 (1992) 10.7 (2013) * 10.8 (2007) * 10.8 (2015) * 11.0 (2001) 11.1 (2009) * 12.0 (2011) * 12.2 (2010) * 12.5 (2004) * 12.6 (2002) 12.9 (2014) * 14.0 (2016) * Playoff Point Era 3 years R&D Session Era 13 years Most Wins: 1. Jimmie Johnson, 10 Wins, 2007 2. Carl Edwards, 9 Wins, 2008 3. Martin Truex Jr, 8 Wins, 2017 * 3. Kevin Harvick, 8 Wins, 2018 * 3. Kyle Busch, 8 Wins, 2018 * 3. Kyle Busch, 8 Wins, 2019 * 3. Martin Truex Jr., 8 Wins, 2019 * 3. Jimmie Johnson, 8 Wins, 2004 3. Kyle Busch, 8 Wins, 2008 3. Denny Hamlin, 8 Wins, 2010 78. Anthony posted: 07.27.2019 - 7:33 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) Whatever you are trying to get across is confusing as hell 79. JohnG posted: 07.27.2019 - 7:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @78 How? It's this simple: Chase era before Playoff Points (2004-2016) created a scenario where only the final 10 races mattered in determining the champion for the most part. This led to drivers focusing on those final 10 races for the most part. Then I show statistics showing full season stats comparing Chase era before Playoff Points (2004-2016) to the other years showing that full season stats are down because drivers were largely only focusing on those final 10 races. I don't understand how that is confusing. ........................................................... Sorry for all of the back to back posts. This is the last one. For the record I want to make clear that I'm not saying that I think all of the top drivers were spending the whole first 27 races R&Ding and nothing else. Obviously they had to make the Chase. Obviously you want to win races like the Daytona 500. Obviously winning races does something that doesn't show up on the score sheet. It builds confidence. It fixes issues of many kinds. It makes you feel good. It relieves pressure. It motivates you. What I am saying is that there was some R&Ding during those 27 races and it was too much for my personal taste. It wasn't a complete R&D session, but it definitely did happen more than it should have and it definitely did create some winners that normally wouldn't have won. These are my last stats. Win Percentage Of Driver With Most Wins * = R&D Era (2004-2016) 1982 - 40.0 1998 - 39.3 1985 - 39.2 1981 - 38.7 1987 - 37.9 1993 - 33.3 1996 - 32.2 1997 - 31.2 1990 - 31.0 2007 - 27.7 * 1994 - 25.8 2008 - 25.0 * 1986 - 24.1 1984 - 23.3 1995 - 22.5 2003 - 22.2 2004 - 22.2 * 2010 - 22.2 * 2017 - 22.2 2018 - 22.2 2019 - 22.2 1988 - 20.6 1989 - 20.6 1999 - 20.5 1983 - 20.0 2009 - 19.4 * 2013 - 19.4 * 1980 - 19.3 2000 - 17.6 1991 - 17.2 1992 - 17.2 2001 - 16.6 2005 - 16.6 * 2006 - 16.6 * 2014 - 16.6 * 2015 - 16.6 * 2002 - 13.8 2011 - 13.8 * 2012 - 13.8 * 2016 - 13.8 * 80. Scott25 posted: 07.27.2019 - 10:27 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) I've never understood people complaining about the Lucky Dog rule. On a list of problems with NASCAR, it's about #287. 81. Scott25 posted: 07.27.2019 - 10:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Also I like the inversion plan for next year. I do like using fastest race laps from race 1 more in theory, but you know it'll be taken advantage of, either by using teammates to draft, or F1 style shenanigans late in the race. Then again, the inversion will also be taken advantage of by someone running about 21st in points who is in a ?MUST WIN SITUATION? (as Rick Allen loves to say) who doesn't care about where they finish, will miraculously have a loose wheel or think they have a tire going down late in the race and end up at the back of the lead lap. Personally I'd like to see all of the numbers between 1-however many cars finished in the lead lap put in a bucket and pulled out by the Race 1 winner, and that's how many are inverted, so nobody knows what the exact number will be and can't plan their day around it 82. Scott25 posted: 07.27.2019 - 10:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The only problem I have with the lucky dog rule is that anybody who receives a penalty or black flag of any kind during the race should be ineligible for the lucky dog for the remainder of the race. Make speeding penalties and other violations actually hurt. 83. Chase9Fan posted: 07.27.2019 - 10:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #76 thank you, tired of people taking something that someone disagrees with them over and call it "complaining". What ever happened to good ol conversation whether one disagrees or not? 84. Chase9Fan posted: 07.27.2019 - 10:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 82, I can agree to that. 85. Chase9Fan posted: 07.27.2019 - 10:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 74, I a for change, but not all change is for the better. Look at the empty seats and the low ratings and you tell me if you think these changes are for the better? I said i am ok with not racing back to the line, but don't give a lucky dog. Simply give the option to get back on lead lap if they don't pit. At least then they aren't just given it and still have to earn it with either luck (quick caution) or some kind of game plan. Lucky dog is for the birds and rewards being lapped. 86. Mile501 posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:31 am Rate this comment: (3) (0) @82 - If I recall correctly, that rule was in place during the early years of the free pass (that it wouldn't go to a driver who lost a lap due to a penalty), but changed somewhere along the way. @83 - I echo your sentiment. Sadly, many people seem to have lost the ability to disagree respectfully. 87. Scott25 posted: 07.28.2019 - 7:36 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @86 I remember that as well, at least for the caution directly after said penalty. I have no idea when it changed. I remember a few races when someone was penalized a lap and it was made clear they weren't just going to be given it back. 88. Corey posted: 07.28.2019 - 8:21 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @86 Wasn't that also dependent on the type of black flag they received? I believe NASCAR told them they were ineligible for stuff like unsportsmanlike conduct, or intentionally wrecking another driver. Nowadays, NASCAR just removes the driver from the track (Johnny Sauter) instead of giving them lap penalties. 89. Wil posted: 07.28.2019 - 9:07 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) To me this has the smell of a race that Harvick just absolutely dominates. 90. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 9:23 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Perez has spun and hit with the rear of the car safety car has been deployed 91. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 9:24 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Vettel comes into the pits for intermediate tires 92. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 9:24 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) 90 91 sorry wrong page 93. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 9:27 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick has passed tech he will start from pole today 94. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 9:41 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Austin Dillon has failed pre race inspection he will start from the rear had qualified 5th 95. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 9:46 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jimmie Johnson has failed pre race inspection he will go to the rear had qualified 6th 96. George posted: 07.28.2019 - 9:48 am Rate this comment: (1) (2) Two more Chevys (Byron, KuBu) somehow qualified in the top 10, gotta get them out of there too. 97. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 9:57 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) William Byron has failed pre race inspection he will go to the rear had qualified 8th 98. George posted: 07.28.2019 - 9:59 am Rate this comment: (0) (2) Woo hoo, 1 more to go! Git dem Shebbies, NASCAR inspectors! 99. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 10:27 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) McDowell's car has failed pre race inspection he will go to the rear was scheduled to start 17th 100. Guy posted: 07.28.2019 - 10:37 am Rate this comment: (1) (2) Nascar hates Chevy so much it's obvious. BS penalties like Byron a few weeks ago and now this garbage, yet the Gibbs goons or SHR turncoats never get anything. Must be trying to compensate for the last 35 years I guess. 101. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 10:40 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Blaney has now failed inspection was scheduled to start 20th 102. Sector posted: 07.28.2019 - 10:42 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) I would like to see Kevin Harvick finally win one at Pocono. It's hard to bet against Kyle Busch. He's been on fire here since 2017, winning 3 of the last 4 races here and winning the last 2 "second" Pocono races. He's also led the most laps in 4 of the last 5 (Kevin led the most the most laps in the 1 Kyle didn't)... It could be a season sweep here for Kyle. 103. George posted: 07.28.2019 - 10:43 am Rate this comment: (1) (2) Either the inspectors are scrutinizing some cars extra carefully while winking as certain others fly by, or the cars which are failing inspection really are "cheating" (by being .0000000000001% out of tolerance or whatever) and therefore deserve to be caught because they are in fact breaking the rules, such as they are. 104. Sector posted: 07.28.2019 - 10:45 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @Altracing That's quite the list of penalties... Is it me or does Pocono seem to be crazy with the combination of vast majority of penalties in recent years? 105. Sector posted: 07.28.2019 - 10:50 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @103 I agree. Last year Kyle Busch and Kevin Harvick failed inspection and were disqualified from the front row. Can't really say it was all about "Chevy" getting screwed over as the two very best lost their front row starting positions last year that gave Daniel Suarez his very first Cup pole. I remember the pit road penalties being insanely high one year. And as for today... We're seeing quite a handful of drivers failing pre-race inspection. I wouldn't be surprised if we finally get a post-race inspection failure and see our very first Cup winner disqualified since the new rule this year. As I said in my last comment, Pocono just screams for penalties. 106. Corey posted: 07.28.2019 - 10:54 am Rate this comment: (2) (0) @104 Pocono is just one of those tracks were qualifying and race inspection are one in the same. Had there been a pre-qualifying inspection, we would not see this. @103 I would imagine that the qualifying process is too out in the open for NASCAR to be able to ?selectively? scrutinize some cars more. What I find funny is that some fans claim NASCAR has it out for the Chevy's when for years it was Hendrick had them in his back pocket. Which is it? Still no evidence to go either way. 107. A.J. posted: 07.28.2019 - 11:03 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) Some people need to get a grip on this penalty conspiracy stuff. NASCAR is hardly about to alienate a large segment of (what's left of) its fanbase by making its favoritism or discrimination as blatantly obvious as it seems to be. And what's the big deal here anyway? Having to start at the back is a rather minor penalty at a short track like Pocono where it's so very easy to pass. Oh, wait... 108. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 11:11 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Buescher has now failed inspection 109. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 11:14 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) LaJoie has now failed pre race inspection 110. Sector posted: 07.28.2019 - 11:24 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) #106 Understandable, however it's all still the same with the penalties. I don't agree with the majority of the fan base who desperately want NASCAR to penalize the winning teams just because their drivers and teams are trying to go the extra mile to keep up. JGR, SHR and even Penske doesn't necessarily need to go the extra mile to try to slip by because they are already dominating. Sometime they will try something new and get caught eventually, but highly unlikely because they are already the fastest and winning. Of course, we all know the fans want them to be caught cheating 24/7 simply because they have such hatred and jealousy for their drivers and teams. 111. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 11:27 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Chastain has failed pre race inspection now 112. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 11:29 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sorenson has failed pre race inspection now 113. Ralphie posted: 07.28.2019 - 11:47 am Rate this comment: (4) (1) LOL at the conspirasy theorists. You'd all like to think that the cars busted for cheating really aren't, and the ones that aren't busted really are cheating. Think about it, if you already have the best equipment on the track and nobody else is close, why on earth would you risk cheating? Just to gain an advantage over nobody but your own teammates? That's pointless and would only cause friction within the team when or if you get caught. 114. JohnG posted: 07.28.2019 - 12:44 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @Chase9Fan "#76 thank you, tired of people taking something that someone disagrees with them over and call it "complaining". What ever happened to good ol conversation whether one disagrees or not?" Agree 100%. 115. JohnG posted: 07.28.2019 - 12:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) About William Byron starting in the back - It's really weird. Every time this year I was going to pick someone for NASCAR fantasy but didn't because they had to start in the back for a penalty they end up with a top 5 or top 5 most points finish. 116. Chase9Fan posted: 07.28.2019 - 1:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Lots of failed inspections today. Why do these teams even try to cheat when they know they arent likely to get away with it? 117. Z posted: 07.28.2019 - 1:28 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Might not catch this one, so going ahead and picking Erik Jones to finally pull through this year. He's shown speed, he's run good @ Pocono in years past, can he seal the deal today? 118. Ultimate_Warrior_#18 posted: 07.28.2019 - 1:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @116 As DW would say if you ain't cheating you ain't trying. 119. Guy posted: 07.28.2019 - 1:28 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Not a conspiracy when we're right. How else do you explain Jones not getting penalized for going over the commit cone or cry baby Kyle Busch getting away with a tire violation, yet Byron gets caught a few weeks ago for jumping the restart when he didn't even beat the leader to the line. Anyone who thinks Nascar is a level playing field and regulates all the teams the same is simply ignorant and naive, last year it was Ford with the advantage because Keslowski whined for it, but clearly Gibbs/Toyota stepped up their game. 120. Sector posted: 07.28.2019 - 1:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) @119 and years ago Hendrick with Chevy were the ones with the advantages... Sounds like another Chevy fan showing off their "ignorant and naive." 121. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 2:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Based off of yesterday I'm gonna go with Erik Jones for the win today 122. Mile501 posted: 07.28.2019 - 2:05 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Most NASCAR-related conspiracy theories are completely devoid of common sense. NASCAR is in the entertainment business. As such, they may do things like throwing debris cautions to increase excitement. But to accuse them of favoring one make over another or one organization over another, which wouldn't help the show and would alienate more fans, is utter nonsense. 123. Mile501 posted: 07.28.2019 - 2:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Matt DiBenedetto had 0 career top 15 starts before this season. This year, he started 9th at Daytona, and thanks to the failed inspections at Pocono, he now has 2 consecutive top 10 starts in the last 2 races (7th at Loudon and 10th at Pocono). 124. Sector posted: 07.28.2019 - 2:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I was just looking at the qualifying results... Why does the drivers who has all failed inspection has the *? That would mean they had to qualify on time, however their times were disallowed? There should be another "legend" to represent that. Maybe something like; ~ - Failed inspection / Time disallowed 125. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 3:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) We're green at Pocono 126. RaceFanX posted: 07.28.2019 - 3:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick leads lap 1. 127. George posted: 07.28.2019 - 3:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) The pace truck is a Chevy, the only vehicle from that manufacturer likely to lead the field today, lol. 128. Anonymous posted: 07.28.2019 - 3:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 120+ posts before the race starts? 129. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 3:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Keselowski has a right rear tire rub after hitting the wall 130. Wil posted: 07.28.2019 - 3:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Some sexy racing from JGR teammates Jones, Kyle Busch and Hamlin early in the race. Jones has a great piece, he'll contend for the win. 131. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 3:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Keselowski pits to repair the damage to the car 132. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 3:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Keselowski remains on the lead lap after his pit stop 133. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 3:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Some drivers starting early green flag pit stops 134. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 3:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Leaders making their green flag pit stops now 135. David posted: 07.28.2019 - 3:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Even on 2 fresh tires, Bowman's Chevy can't put any distance between him and Harvick's Ford. 136. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 3:48 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Pit stops have finally cycled through, Kyle Busch is now the leader leading Logano by 5.1 seconds 137. William24ByronFan posted: 07.28.2019 - 3:52 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Our winners so far this weekend have started 2nd and won the race eventually. Does that mean Logano will win today? Only time will tell. 138. TeamDCRfan posted: 07.28.2019 - 3:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jones has a broken trackbar adjuster. 139. RaceFanX posted: 07.28.2019 - 3:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This race began just as the 2019 Tour de France bicycle race ended half a world away. Egan Bernal won the Tour, becoming the first Colombian to ever win it. 140. RaceFanX posted: 07.28.2019 - 3:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Taste the Rainbow competition! Kyle Busch wins Stage 1 with Logano second and Harvick's Gen-X Special third. 141. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 3:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Busch wins stage 1 142. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 4:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Most of the leaders pit, Harvick stays out and will be the leader again 143. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 4:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Top eight cars stayed out on track, Hemric takes two tires on his pit stop everyone else takes four 144. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 4:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Drivers who stayed out under the last caution starting to make their pit stops now 145. Sector posted: 07.28.2019 - 4:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Looking like a polar opposite of 2018 in this race. Kyle Busch catching Kevin Harvick fast? Last year Kevin was the fastest. 146. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 4:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Busch goes back to the lead 147. Chase9Fan posted: 07.28.2019 - 4:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hasn't been as dull as typical Pocono. 148. Chase9Fan posted: 07.28.2019 - 4:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Just able to start watching, the 12 that slow today? 149. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 4:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Elliott has hit the wall hard caution is out 150. Chase9Fan posted: 07.28.2019 - 4:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) *sigh* Chase 151. Chase9Fan posted: 07.28.2019 - 4:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This is getting ridiculous now. Holy crap. 152. Sector posted: 07.28.2019 - 4:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Chase Elliott has not been too hot over the past couple of months. 153. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 4:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Blaney will get the free pass 154. TeamDCRfan posted: 07.28.2019 - 4:33 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Thankfully Jeff Burton interjected right before they started that my track my roots segment . I'm getting so sick of hearing the my track my roots stuff. They are overkilling it 155. Sector posted: 07.28.2019 - 4:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Just able to start watching, the 12 that slow today?" That absolutely stinks how you tuned in and this happened to Chase. Hopefully in the Playoffs they turn things around as they did last season. 156. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 4:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Busch stays out everyone else who hadn't pitted yet makes their pit stops 157. Sandy posted: 07.28.2019 - 4:36 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) With that crash Chase went straight to the garage and will pick up his first last place finish of his cup career 158. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 4:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Busch, Harvick, Hamlin, Johnson, Menard and Stenhouse stayed out under this caution 159. Chase9Fan posted: 07.28.2019 - 4:38 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) 155 yeah a friend went into the hospital. Came home to this crap. I'm feeling like my McMurray days all over again. Good thing he has that win. 160. Chase9Fan posted: 07.28.2019 - 4:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) These announcers are too excited to me. Bit annoying ha. 161. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 4:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Some showers in the area apparently 162. RaceFanX posted: 07.28.2019 - 4:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) There's rain in the area with 9 laps left in stage 2. Some is falling on the track...and we've got a yellow for it. 163. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 4:44 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Caution is out for rain 164. RaceFanX posted: 07.28.2019 - 4:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This won't last. We'll be back racing soon. 165. George_Costanza posted: 07.28.2019 - 4:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @160 not only are they very excited over pretty standard Pocono racing, it's hard to hear their shrill voice over the sounds of the cars that their microphone are picking up. Also, race isn't official until the end of stage 2, right? 166. Mile501 posted: 07.28.2019 - 4:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) To the question about the #12, I think he was just on a different pit strategy, although I could be wrong about that. 167. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 4:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Back half of the field pits under caution 168. Chase9Fan posted: 07.28.2019 - 4:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 165. Ha agreed. Seems they are trying to call the race as fans instead of announcers. 169. Sector posted: 07.28.2019 - 4:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #165 yes, it's no longer the "halfway point" of the race. It's always at the conclusion of Stage 2. We're going back green anyway. 170. A.J. posted: 07.28.2019 - 4:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) They were shrieking like women on turn 1 of lap 1. Possibly because that was likely to be the most exciting moment of the day. 171. RaceFanX posted: 07.28.2019 - 4:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Restart with 5 to go in the stage. 172. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 4:54 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Blaney spins after contact witn Suarez, Kyle Busch is on pit road for fuel, Jimmie Johnson will win stage 2 173. Sector posted: 07.28.2019 - 4:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The fact that Kyle Busch was able to hold off the entire field of four fresher tires that all pitted, while Kyle hasn't pitted since before Stage 1, is very impressive. Even though Kyle Busch already pitted when caution came out with 2 to go in the stage. 174. Wil posted: 07.28.2019 - 4:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Awful driving from Suarez there. 175. Sector posted: 07.28.2019 - 4:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) off with four fresher tires* 176. Sector posted: 07.28.2019 - 4:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Cuing any conspiracy theorists stating NASCAR held off the caution flag in time for Kyle Busch to pit, making his pit-stop legal. I believe this is Jimmie Johnson's second stage win of his career, but first on an oval? He won one at Sonoma in 2018, so this is also his first stage win of 2019. 177. Jimmie4life posted: 07.28.2019 - 4:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) J.J. has won 2 stages... as Many as Ty Dillon. 178. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 4:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Johnson pits from the lead along with a few others, Harvick regains the lead again 179. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Top 15 cars which includes Kyle Busch in 15th stayed out under this caution 180. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin to the lead 181. Anthony2 posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) It's been a great year for Chase Elliott huh? 182. Jimmie4life posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @181 First 1/3rd at least. 183. Chase9Fan posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Still time to make it one 181. 184. Chase9Fan posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:13 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) As good as the racing is on restarts in the pack, if you start first you are gone. 185. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Preece has crashed caution is out 186. TeamDCRfan posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ouch 187. George_Costanza posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jeez, Mike Bagley screamed into the microphone.. hope you guys don't have your volumes up like I do #ripears 188. Chase9Fan posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hard wreck for Preece. 189. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Everyone except for Kyle Busch pits under caution so he will be the leader again 190. Gman posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Not as bad as babba Wallace's last year also go denny 191. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Lots of drivers taking two tires during these pit stops 192. Sandy posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:16 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @181 it's a great year to have bad luck 193. Chad posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:18 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) We're setting up for a classic Pocono fuel mileage race as if I heard it correctly everyone is about 4 laps short should they stay green. 194. Timothy_Eklund posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Suarez +19 positions 195. Jimmie4life posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Remember 2015's Pocono race? Chaos the first half, second half, fuel mileage race. 196. Anomynous posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Busch stayed out. Stevens has always been good at pulling out strategies but this won't work 197. Chase9Fan posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Does Latarte voice annoy anyone else? Ha 198. Chad posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm a big fan of Mike Bagley, he's doing a great job today and hopefully he'll be around for more races 199. Yeet posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) We're getting ready for possibly 3 great finishes in a row, hang on to your hats folks! 200. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ragan slow on the track after hitting the wall, no caution yet 201. TeamDCRfan posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Now Ragan has hit the wall 202. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ragan makes it to pit road 203. Gman posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) What do you think of Denny's odds 204. 52 posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This race will have a great finish as long as it stays green. Fingers crossed. 205. Mile501 posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) RCR is having a strong performance today with both cars running in the top 10. 206. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Busch pits from the lead, Erik Jones is now the leader 207. Chase9Fan posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Who can make it.. Who can't. Hmmm 208. A.J. posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sure could use a caution now, locking the 18 at the back of the lead lap for a little while, and setting up some actual excitement via a late restart. 209. Chase9Fan posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Not Brad please ha. I would like an upset. 210. George posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @208 Or it could set up exactly like Daytona last July where that late restart finds one JGR teammate (Truex) blocking so another one (Jones) can win, which isn't exactly "actual excitement". I'll take the chance on the restart anyway, but there probably isn't going to be one today. 211. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin back to the lead 212. Mbenoit posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I don't know how these guys up front can possibly make it on fuel. 213. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bilicki's car has stopped and the caution is out 214. David posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) But is the yellow too late to give any underdogs a real chance? 215. Chase9Fan posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Blah 216. RaceFanX posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:54 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Josh Bilicki runs the #53 out of gas with eight laps to go and the caution is out. Darn it, this was shaping up for a cool finish. 217. TeamDCRfan posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Welp, friggin Billicki just ruined a potential interesting fuel mileage finish 218. Jacob posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Caution comes out 219. 52 posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ughh well the race still can turn into a fun finish. Maybe. This at least takes KB out of the equation. 220. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Back half of the field pits under caution 221. David posted: 07.28.2019 - 5:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @219 Don't be so sure. He's on fresher tires than anyone in front him. So there will be some suspense here to see which JGR Toyota wins! 222. TeamDCRfan posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kurt and McDowell crash 223. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kurt Busch and McDowell crash caution is out 224. TeamDCRfan posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:01 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Overtime 225. Chase9Fan posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Still could be fuel mileage. 226. RaceFanX posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) McDowell had the #34 Ford up on two wheels briefly after Stenhouse turned Kurt Busch into him. Wild ride. 227. Scott25 posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Prime Wrecky 228. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Suarez is being penalized for a restart violation 229. TeamDCRfan posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Good ol stankhouse 230. Scott25 posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:03 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Hope they have a camera on Kurt and Ricky after the race 231. George posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Now let's see some of these top cars run out of fuel, please. 232. Jacob posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Larson jumps to 4th and Kurt Busch and Michael McDowell spin. 233. Anonymous posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Stenhouse intentionally turned Kurt, what an ass 234. Scott25 posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That's the same thing Gilliland did to Montoya a decade ago, and I believe he got a penalty 235. Sector posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I've never liked Ricky Stenhouse, Jr. He just ran over Kurt Busch out of anger. 236. 34McDowellFan posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) McDowell gets taken out because Stenhouse threw a temper tantrum and dumped Kurt Busch 237. George posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Pretty lengthy yellow here. I'd love to see the 11, 19 & 20 choke up on fuel, and why not the 2 and the 4 too while the 18 wrecks. Let's see an actual interesting (albeit highly unlikely) outcome. 238. Ryan posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) What in the world Bilicki! How does he just stall like that? 239. Jacob posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Looking like Kurt might have some words (and maybe more) with Wreckhouse once this race is over. 240. Altracing posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Hamlin wins at Pocono, another 1-2-3 finish for JGR 241. TeamDCRfan posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:12 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Rick Allen just said Erik Jones is looking for his first career win as they were coming to line 242. Chase9Fan posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Toyota again. Shocking lol 243. TeamDCRfan posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 238 It's a Rick Ware car. That sums it up pretty well 244. Timothy_Eklund posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Somebody tell Rick Allen that Erik Jones has a cup win 245. Chase9Fan posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:14 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) Here comes the stupid 2 time race winner interview. 246. David posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:14 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Yuck. But at least there's some interesting cars not far behind the obvious ones: Byron fighting back from his "inspection failure" to unbelievably get a top 5, DANIEL HEMRIC of all people with an outstanding run, Kyle Larson passing people all day and getting some reward for it for a change. Good work by those guys for sure. 247. Mbenoit posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This Gibbs stuff is getting old. Man. Was hoping it would at least be Jones. 248. Ryan posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Another great run for Harvick at Pocono, but yet another loss. He did not need that caution with 9 to go as he was about to make his moves on the 19 and 11. And again lapped cars impede the leaders' progress in the late going and dictate the finishes. 249. Chase9Fan posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:16 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Not a bad race for Pocono, but you weren't gonna pass the leader. No matter who it was. 250. Sector posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Denny Hamlin has now tied Bill Elliott for second all time in wins here at Pocono with 5 wins. One more win and he will tie Jeff Gordon who has the all time record at 6 wins. With the string of new champions under this format, I wouldn't be too surprised if Denny Hamlin manages to pull it off. 251. FoMoCo posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:17 pm Rate this comment: (3) (1) Very fishy by Bilicki. A car going 150+ just pulls over and stops just like that with it not being on fire? Like to hear the radio communication on that one from his and Gibb's henchmen. 252. TeamDCRfan posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:17 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) Race was meh all day long, then it gets interesting with about 20 to go, then it's finish is meh. 253. Wil posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Erik Jones looking for his first career win!!!" Rick Allen is a complete embarrassment. 254. Chase9Fan posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wow. Race cut off in Canada already. Geez. Nice post race smh. 255. Sector posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Drivers like Bilicki shouldn't even be driving. Running out of fuel and stalling on the race track... Did you just get your license yesterday? 256. Ryan posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Denny Hamlin has won three races in 2019 now after not winning any in 2018. Enough of the Chris Bell talk of replacing him. Job secure. 257. TeamDCRfan posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'd be a much better Lap by Lap guy over Rick, or any of the NBC guys for that matter 258. A.J. posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @251 That was pretty damn odd, but why would Blicki provide such a helpful moment for the Gibbs boys? 259. RandomFacts posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Congrats to Byron on his 2nd career top 5 finish, congrats to Denny on getting the win. 260. ShinyMew151 posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Don't feed the troll @258 261. William24ByronFan posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Can't wait to see Me. come here and cry. 262. FoMoCo posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:22 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) A car going full speed off of turn 1 that shuts off should pretty much be able to coast to the pits, if not be real close. They really should flag the cars multiple laps down off the track with 20 laps to go, they shouldn't be affecting the outcome. 263. Wil posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Daniel Hemric with the great race. 264. Ryan posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @249 The 11 passed the 20. 265. ShinyMew151 posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) We already got FoMoCo and his crazy conspiracies 266. A.J. posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) So where's the Stenhouse-Busch fight? 267. Chase9Fan posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm not saying it was done on purpose, but for sure a stupid moment for the Bilicki team. 268. Ryan posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @262 Good idea. 269. Mile501 posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:26 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Daniel Hemric finally scores his first career top 10 finish on a non-plate track. (Well, with this package, that description doesn't quite fit anymore, but we all know what that means.) He finished 5th at Talladega but otherwise had yet to score a top 10 finish until today. He was close in the first Pocono race (13th). Congrats to him! 270. 11darknight10 posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:34 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) #27 was sponsored by Lehigh Valley Phantoms #15 was unsponsored/Premium Motorsports 271. Chase9Fan posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) HMS.. Join Toyota! If you can't beat them. Join them. 272. Sector posted: 07.28.2019 - 6:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Busch becomes the first driver in 2019 at the Cup series to lead 1,000 laps led after this race. 273. Mile501 posted: 07.28.2019 - 7:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Chris Buescher is just 5 points away from breaking into the top 20 in points for the first time in his career this far into a season (not counting 2016, when he made the playoffs with that rain-shortened win but actually ranked about 30th). That #37 team has been steadily clicking off one solid finish after another this season. He has now finished in the top 20 in 10 consecutive races. To illustrate his consistency, he has finished between 14th and 18th in 7 of the last 8 races. 274. TTaylor944 posted: 07.28.2019 - 7:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If today's race was the Saturday race in 2020 Michael McDowell would be starting on the pole for Sunday's race. 275. Mile501 posted: 07.28.2019 - 7:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It's interesting to see how Ryan Newman and Jimmie Johnson are currently battling each other for the final playoff spot. The two battled for Rookie of the Year honors 17 years ago, and Newman came out on top even though Johnson has obviously had the better career. In that time, Newman has driven for 4 different owners while Johnson has remained in the same car throughout his entire career. 276. Chase9Fan posted: 07.28.2019 - 7:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 274.? 277. Mile501 posted: 07.28.2019 - 7:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @274 - To expand on that, the starting lineup for the second race would be: 1. McDowell - 2. Suarez 3. Tifft - 4. Wallace 5. Stenhouse - 6. Bowman 7. A Dillon - 8. Menard 9. DiBenedetto - 10. Buescher 11. Johnson - 12. Newman 13. Logano - 14. Almirola 15. Bowyer - 16. Blaney 17. KyBusch - 18. Keselowski 19. Hemric - 20. Harvick 21. Larson - 22. Byron 23. Truex - 24. Jones 25. Hamlin - 26. LaJoie 27. KuBusch - 28. Cassill 29. T Dillon - 30. Chastain 31. Houff - 32. Sorenson 33. McLeod - 34. Theriault 35. Bilicki - 36. Ragan 37. Preece - 38. Elliott 278. Sector posted: 07.28.2019 - 8:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Apparently Daniel Suarez and Bubba Wallace had some heated exchanges after the race on pit road which began prior to Denny Hamlin's burnout as you can hear him do a burnout close to 3/4 of the way through the video. Someone captured a video of the two and posted in on nascar.com, though you can't hear them. 279. StenhouseFan17 posted: 07.28.2019 - 8:36 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) #00 - Mane 'n Tail Color Protect #12 - MoneyLion Insta Cash #14 - Toco Warranty/Haas CNC #15 - Premium Motorsports #17 - Roush Performance/Fastenal #27 - Lehigh Valley Phantoms #37 - Kroger Fast Start/Maxwell House/Kleenex/Cheerios #47 - Kroger.com/Jimmy Dean/Clorox #52 - TrickShot Penetrating Lubricant 280. Nucl3arWa4le posted: 07.28.2019 - 8:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsor updates #17 - Roush Performance / Fastenal #47 - Kroger / Jimmy Dean / Clorox 281. David posted: 07.28.2019 - 9:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) How about some props for Ryan Blaney, who seemed to be running like junk all day long from getting pancaked to the wall early in a situation not of his own making, and he somehow winds up 10th despite an average running position throughout the race of 22nd. 282. Chase9Fan posted: 07.28.2019 - 10:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) 277. Some kind of gimmic starting line up for the 2nd race next year? 283. Sector posted: 07.28.2019 - 10:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #282 yes. Next year will be double header races for both Pocono races. The ones finishing on the lead laps will determine the reversed starting grind for the following race. For example, Chase Elliott finishes 24th, last car on the lead lap on Saturday while Erik Jones wins. Chase will start on the pole in the second race on Sunday, while race winner Erik Jones will start 24th. Ryan Blaney finishing 2nd means he'll start 23rd, and so on. Understood? 284. Chase9Fan posted: 07.28.2019 - 11:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (3) Yes. Highly dumb though. The last 2 cars on lead lap in race 1 will be slowing to a crawl to let the other one by. Ha 285. MajorImplications posted: 07.28.2019 - 11:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 60 "Quality Passes" for Kyle Larson in this race, that's great. Once again Newman didn't gain any stage points, his car lacks raw speed but he's able to avoid trouble every week and finish better than where he runs most of the time. He was also able to do that in his first few years in the #31 but I didn't expect him to do it that well in the #6. On the other hand, Stenhouse does the opposite of his teammate. 286. Yeet posted: 07.28.2019 - 11:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Denny Hamlin is slowly and methodically starting to become a championship 4 favorite and could be a dark horse come the Playoffs 287. Anthony2 posted: 07.29.2019 - 12:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Chase has lost 151 points in the last seven races to whoever's been leading the standings. 288. Chase9Fan posted: 07.29.2019 - 12:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) To my down voters to post 284, care to say why you disagree that? 289. Jimmie4life posted: 07.29.2019 - 2:03 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @288 Really? 290. Allen posted: 07.29.2019 - 2:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 286, this is Denny Hamlin we're talking about. 291. RandomFacts posted: 07.29.2019 - 2:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think it will make the race more interesting, more strategy involved going into the second race. 292. A.J. posted: 07.29.2019 - 2:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) @286 ANY Gibbs or Penske car* is the exact opposite of "dark horse" in any 2019 race or championship pursuit. Taking the (at worst) 6th or 7th best equipment on the track, week in and week out, to the final 4 or even the championship is nowhere near the definition of an upset. Of course Denny Hamlin is not exactly known for his consistency and has never been considered a championship caliber driver, but in that JGR equipment he starts off with a big advantage over nearly all of the rest of the field, and his primary challengers this year (assuming someone like Harvick, Keselowski or Logano doesn't get red hot at the right time) are just his own teammates. * aside from Ryan Blaney's #12 293. Chase9Fan posted: 07.29.2019 - 2:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) 289. Yup. I am curious to know why fans like an important points race be determined by the previous points race finishing order in reverse? It's more stupid gimmic crap. Just asking for opinions instead of thin skinned anonymous down voting lol 294. David posted: 07.29.2019 - 2:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I know it's a little early for Homestead predictions, but the final 4 will likely be 2 JGR Toyotas + 2 Fords (1 Penske + Harvick, or 2 Penskes and no Harvick) or 3 JGR Toyotas and 1 Ford (2, 4 or 22). Less likely: 4 JGR Toyotas in the final 4 (as TV ratings go through the floor) or just 1 JGR Toyota and the top 3 Fords. In just about any of the above scenarios, Denny Hamlin has an excellent chance to be there although he is considered to be just the #3 driver in the JGR lineup. Now if you want to talk about a real "upset", that would be when some other team (any other team) somehow gets a driver into the final 4. It could happen with a fluke win, but how many non-obvious drivers are likely to even be in the final 8, much less the final 4? There could be 1 or 2 longshots in the final 8 but they'd better run 1 absolutely perfect race before Miami if they want any chance at the big prize. 295. Robby posted: 07.29.2019 - 2:51 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @293 You do know that many short track/dirt tracks around the country do that same thing when they have twin features right? 296. Chase9Fan posted: 07.29.2019 - 2:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I do. But this is NASCAR. 297. George posted: 07.29.2019 - 3:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @294 Have you looked at the playoff points, which carry over all through the playoffs and give their beneficiaries a big head start over the rest of the competition in every round except Homestead? No way in bloody hell is there as few as just ONE Gibbs car in the final 4. The 18 and 19 are mortal locks and the 11 is right there with the 2 top Penske drivers as the clear favorites for spots 3 and 4. Playoff points in themselves aren't an airtight guarantee of advancement to the finals, but the deck is heavily stacked in that direction. 298. Sector posted: 07.29.2019 - 3:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) While we're on the conversation... Webmaster, is it too much to ask to include stage points collected on the Standings page? I know NASCAR.com keeps track of them every race and year by year since 2017. I think it'll be a neat collection of stats to showcase, especially since there is a list of top 10 drivers who score points every week under the race results. This way we can see how strong early on some drivers are (Joey Logano) tend to be vs others (Kyle Busch), despite looking at average finishes. 299. Sandy posted: 07.29.2019 - 5:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 37 cars are entered for both Xfinity and Cup at the Glen 300. Mile501 posted: 07.29.2019 - 8:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @297 - We may well see 3 JGR Toyotas in the final four, but it is far from certain. Those who lead in playoff points don't have nearly the gap over the other drivers that they had last year. 2018 top 5 in playoff points after race #21: 35 Kyle Busch 33 Kevin Harvick 26 Martin Truex Jr. 10 Clint Bowyer 7 Joey Logano 2019 top 5 in playoff points after race #21: 28 Kyle Busch 22 Martin Truex Jr. 19 Brad Keselowski 18 Denny Hamlin 17 Joey Logano And remember, a gap of 10 playoff points heading into the round of 8 can be erased in the first stage at Martinsville. 301. Corey posted: 07.29.2019 - 8:37 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Keep in mind Justin Allgaier had a fair amount of playoff points last year in Xfinity. He failed to make the final 4. 302. 42KylePetty42 posted: 07.29.2019 - 9:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) What was Josh Bilicki's crew chief thinking? Running laps down, with a car so slow it wasn't going affect their finish in any way or what if they stretched the fuel mileage so what do they do? Stay out, run out & cause a meaningless caution. How many races this year the outcome has been effected by these meaningless drivers of the Rick Ware cars who are running laps down? 303. Hi posted: 07.29.2019 - 9:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @303 (Myself) I meant Driveshaft. 304. Nascarfan posted: 07.29.2019 - 10:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @302 He said that he felt terrible for it and people were sending VERY rude messages straight to him containing bad cuss words so maybe next time you shouldn't make assumptions before you know all your facts and be so rude to a person with a problem out of his Control! Also, he was the Best Rick Ware car that day and was doing well. Next time just get all of your facts (this goes to a lot of people) before you yell at an innocent person!!!! ALSO RICK Ware cars have only caused a few issues. Daytona 500, Atlanta both McLeod's fault. If there are any others please name them 42KylePetty42 305. Hi posted: 07.29.2019 - 10:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @302 Keep your cool. His Gearbox let go into turn 1 and he couldn't make it back so he said he was trying to get to an off road so he wouldn't cause a caution but he couldn't. 306. Hi posted: 07.29.2019 - 10:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And he had to stop because it was still failing around and if he went further those things are known to bust or put holes in race cars. He was doing a cautious thing. 307. Mile501 posted: 07.31.2019 - 5:38 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) With Hamlin winning, we have now had 8 different winners in the last 8 races. There have also been 10 different winners in the last 12 races (with Truex being the only repeat winner). 308. UnderdogFan89 posted: 08.02.2019 - 2:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Top 10 Points Finishers. Actual finish in parantheses. 1. Denny Hamlin (1) - 4th points win of the season 2. Kevin Harvick (6) 3. Martin Truex Jr. (3) - 10th points top 5 4. Erik Jones (2) - 3rd straight 4th place points finish 5. Joey Logano (13) - 15th points top 10 6. Kyle Larson (5) 7. Kyle Busch (9) 8. William Byron (4) 9. Brad Keselowski (8) - 15th points top 10 10. Jimmie Johnson (15) 309. ChaseElliottFan9 posted: 08.04.2019 - 12:13 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Byron and Jones are st as rting to show a lot more consistency 310. Anonymous posted: 05.15.2020 - 5:43 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Don't like Pocono's chances right now they're supposed to be having the first back-to back races and would be NBC's first races back, for NASCAR 2020 too but their Stubborn Governor not giving them green light booo! I am hoping no more disruptions we know several other tracks effected likewise don't got dates yet including those taking the spots that were supposed to be for NBC's Olympics coverage which will now be 2021. Like I said no more diruptions in the schedule. And understand the other races lost for cup series their states yes Democratic Govenors and not the best ones that my view just trying to let you understand I know the concerns but we know what is happening between May 17th and June 21st all in southern states. 311. Rich posted: 12.06.2020 - 10:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Rick Allen, Steve Letarte, Mike Bagley, Dale Earnhardt Jr. and Jeff Burton were the commentators. Marty Snider, Dave Burns and Kelli Stavast were the pit road reporters. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Post a comment:* Your comment may not appear immediately - all comments must be approved by the moderator. Name: Comment: