|| *Comments on the 2019 Drydene 400:* View the most recent comment <#242> | Post a comment <#post> 1. Rocketman6 posted: 10.01.2019 - 2:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The #54 will be used this weekend at the Monster Mile. 2. Corey posted: 10.01.2019 - 3:07 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) This weekend will be the 100th Cup race at Dover. This will make Dover the 10th track to have hosted at least 100 Cup races in NASCAR. 3. Corey posted: 10.01.2019 - 3:15 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) The other tracks are Atlanta-112 Bristol-118 Charlotte-120 Darlington-116 Daytona-145 Martinsville-141 Michigan-101 Richmond-127 Talladega-100 Interestingly, Dover will be the third track to hit 100 races this year, after Talladega and Michigan. The next active track will be Pocono (84 races), then Loudon (48 races). This will certainly change as Loudon only has one race. 4. Sector posted: 10.01.2019 - 3:38 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) #3 I really hope that other tracks such as Chicago, Vegas, Kentucky, etc doesn't reach the milestone of 100 races. Nothing we can do about it sadly. Pocono deserves to be up there so if it keeps two race dates for the next 8 years, it'll join the other tracks with 100 starts in 2027. Regardless, Phoenix later this year will be its 47th race. Then in 2020, it will tie Loudon at 49 races since Phoenix has two race dates oppose to Loudon's one. 5. Corey posted: 10.01.2019 - 4:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @5 They might not depending on the future. Of those three Las Vegas has had the most races at 24. Chicago is at 19 and Kentucky is 9. Loudon and Phoenix are set up to reach race #50 in 2021 making them the 14th and 15th tracks to do so. Along with the active tracks, North Wilkesboro ran 93 races and Rockingham had 78. Riverside missed the cut by 2, having hosted 48 Cup races. 6. Sector posted: 10.01.2019 - 4:31 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) #5 Forgot to mention Kansas too, which is at 27 (28 at the end of Round 2 which is where it starts at Dover). Regardless, Vegas has been praised by NASCAR so it's hard to see that one going anywhere. The other three might not, as you said. That really hurts to see North Wilkesboro be so close. It would have been fitting to close it after the 100th race. Rockingham at 78... That isn't enough. Hear us now, NASCAR!! :) 7. ABear posted: 10.01.2019 - 4:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Glad to see Nemechek back. Does anyone know where Jay Robinson gets the funding to run both the 15 and 27? I know they have some partners, but it seems like both those cars generally run sponsor-less with a straight black paint scheme. It just makes me wonder how they afford the pit crew and running the full races. 8. Bbear posted: 10.01.2019 - 6:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Front row Joe needs to go away. He is taking up a seat that could be used for a young driver 9. Rider77 posted: 10.01.2019 - 7:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Dover's 50th anniversary year, and this will be Dover's 100th cup race. So far attendance is looking good, lots of campers set up. Got my tickets ready, I'll be in section 102. I'm really hoping for Chase to go back to back. I've never been there to see a driver I've routed for win the race. I missed the 2001 race when Jr won. Missed Tony's second to last win. And I missed the race here last year. Weather all weekend looks perfect. Although possible rain for the hauler parade on Thursday. 10. HaleyFan1177 posted: 10.01.2019 - 7:07 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @8 Oh what do you know. Joe is just being offered these races, I'm sure if you were in his shoes you would take them. 11. Yeet posted: 10.01.2019 - 7:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @7 If you look at most of Jay Robinson's cars from when the team first started in 2004, they hardly run with sponors. Most of the time I can't imagine they even look for one. Jay efficiently gets his cars from race to race year after year, and that; because he knows where else to get money from. There is a reason over the past few years most of the backmarker teams are partially run by Jay himself. He puts his hand into wherever money can be found i.e Spire, TBR, etc. Jay has many strategies to collect money and he has ever since he started. Take this year for example, running a 2nd open car to run around 30th or so to collect the purses from the spots aren't typically filled. He runs part of Spire because of the ginormous purse they silently get for using the old 78's charter. When Spire likely leaves in the near future, guess where that charter will go , to Jay's 27, hence more money as well. Don't let the fact that their cars are always blank get you to infer they don't have money, because that is far from the case. 12. StenhouseFan17 posted: 10.01.2019 - 7:17 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Say what you will about Jay, but he's smart enough to put Chastain in his cars. There's not enough said about what he's done with that equipment. 13. Yeet posted: 10.01.2019 - 7:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Per Jayski, these are the following new regulations for 2020 that are intended to limit the spending between teams: - Each car number will be allowed a maximum of 12 certified chassis designated as ?active? at any given time. There was previously no limit. Each vehicle number will also be allowed to retain four chassis designated as ?inactive,? set aside for future use. - Organizations will be limited to a total of 150 hours of wind-tunnel testing per year. There was previously no limit. - Officials have introduced new at-track roster limits for the 2020 season, reducing the maximum number of ?road crew? personnel (engineers, mechanics, crew/car chief, spotters) from 12 to 10 during race weekends. - Teams must compete in a minimum of eight events with a full long-block sealed engine and at least eight events with a short-block sealed engine. Previous rules dictated three full long-block seals and 13 short-block sealed engines. 14. Mile501 posted: 10.01.2019 - 8:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @3 - That number for Daytona is a bit misleading, since the Daytona 500 qualifying races used to count for points and are therefore part of that total from 1959 until 1971. 15. Corey posted: 10.01.2019 - 8:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @13 A few questions. In the case of chassis', how is that going to work in a situation like Alex Bowman's at Loudon, where he raced Jimmie's Back-Up? Also what about in the case of Rick Ware, who seems to have 6-7 chassis' that are used interchangeably between his four numbers? To simplify, Can one number use a chassis from another number? So road crew is 5 pit crew, spotter, crew chief, car chief and two engineers? I could see the old days coming where crew chiefs are now helping to pit the car again. Finally, what are short/long block engines? This is something that doesn't seem to ever come up during the races. 16. 1995-Subaru-WRX-Sti posted: 10.01.2019 - 8:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @13 Should be 6 chassis with 4 in reserve. How does NASCAR know how many hours the teams use a wind tunnel? Zero hours of wind tunnel testing. The teams will still find a way too spend the "saved" money else where. Like trying too stop a leaking dam with a cork. 17. Corey posted: 10.01.2019 - 9:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @16I looked on NASCAR.com which provided some details on each bulletin. As far as wind tunnels go: Testing is only permitted at four approved wind-tunnel facilities: Aerodyn Wind Tunnel in Mooresville, North Carolina; Auto Research Center (ARC) in Indianapolis; Penske Technology Group Wind Tunnel in Mooresville, North Carolina; and Windshear Wind Tunnel in Concord, North Carolina. I'm assuming these places are going to a record on who is using their wind tunnels. 18. Altracing posted: 10.01.2019 - 10:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This might change based on how good these drivers look the next few weeks but based off the performance the playoff drivers had the last time they raced at these tracks for this round in the spring the four drivers I have being eliminated are Blaney, Byron, Bowyer and Hamlin 19. Yeet posted: 10.01.2019 - 10:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @16 I copied and pasted straight what came from Jayski so I don't entirely know if it's a mistake on the website. @15 I'm sure a good search will have your answers, because like you I have absolutely no clue what long/short block engines are lol. 20. 34McDowellFan posted: 10.01.2019 - 11:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Interesting to see the 54 but no 53 21. wisconsinracefan posted: 10.01.2019 - 11:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) For this round, I see Ryan Blaney eliminated. Ryan does not have a good record at Dover and Talladega. I have a hard time seeing Kyle Bush not making despite how his first round went due to amount of points ahead he is and I see him bouncing back Hamlin, Larson or Bowman could be battling for an elimination spot. Bowman did great in the spring, but asking to do 3 straight 2nd place finishes is a tall order. Denny is hit or miss at Dover and Talladega is a crapshoot and I don't like how Denny's first round went. Kyle Larson is a streaky driver and is bad at Talladega. I don't like Clint Bowyer going into the next round since he's a streaky driver this season. William Byron is not likely to make it in the next round. William only has 3 top 5's all season and that is the worst of all 12 remaining drivers in the chase. 22. 1995-Subaru-WRX-Sti posted: 10.02.2019 - 1:14 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) "@16 I copied and pasted straight what came from Jayski so I don't entirely know if it's a mistake on the website." I am not doubting you or Jayski. I am just stating what the teams SHOULD be limited too. "Testing is only permitted at four approved wind-tunnel facilities: Aerodyn Wind Tunnel in Mooresville, North Carolina; Auto Research Center (ARC) in Indianapolis; Penske Technology Group Wind Tunnel in Mooresville, North Carolina; and Windshear Wind Tunnel in Concord, North Carolina. I'm assuming these places are going to a record on who is using their wind tunnels." 3 in NC and 1 in Indy. They should just let them be in NC area only. And 150 hours is still too much time for aero R&D. Let them test at the start of the year then after that ZERO testing. 23. Eric posted: 10.02.2019 - 7:36 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @20 - They did this at Darlington too, still baffles me as to why. 24. Anonermuth posted: 10.02.2019 - 7:36 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) (Referring to comment 8) Lol, what has Joe Nemechek done wrong in the 27? He's been pretty solid, considering that car is dreadfully slow. If you were 50+, and still had the ability and URGE to race, what would you do? Something to think about. 25. Chase9Fan posted: 10.02.2019 - 7:37 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I predict a Chase or Kyle Busch win. 26. Colin posted: 10.02.2019 - 8:53 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) 20 I think it is to build up owners points for them to be able to qualify in races that have more than 40 cars on the entry list. 22 at Darlington they did that for the reason specified earlier and that it matched the throwback better than 53. 27. Maverick19 posted: 10.03.2019 - 1:22 am Rate this comment: (2) (0) Busch Beer is doing a special paint scheme this weekend. Since the word ?Busch? is also associated with the Busch brothers, all Busch logos on the 4 car will be replaced with the word ?Harvick.? In addition, all Busch Beer cans sold at the track will be rebranded as Harvick Beer for the race. In other words, it's just like those video game alcohol sponsored race cars where they weren't allowed to put the actual logo. 28. Sector posted: 10.03.2019 - 1:27 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) #27 I find that hilarious, I wonder why they never wanted to sponsor any of the Busch brothers (more so Kurt since it makes more sense) to enjoy and praise the name shared. 29. Anthony posted: 10.03.2019 - 7:37 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) The last Dover Chase race 30. Yeet posted: 10.04.2019 - 11:44 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Rick Ware Racing is supposedly going to have Kay Yow Cancer Fund on one of their cars for the entire month of October to raise money for the fight against all the cancers affecting women, however the car Jayski shows is a 53 but it may be on the 54 this weekend. 31. 34McDowellFan posted: 10.04.2019 - 4:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @23 Well at Darlington it was because they were doing a throwback to a #54 car, so it made a bit of sense there, here not so much. Also, with how much Rick Ware has been fielding 3 cars lately, is it possible they'll go to 3 full-time cars next year? 32. Colin posted: 10.04.2019 - 4:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 31 That is a good possibility but I think the 53 will skip a couple of races because of possible money issues. 33. Yeet posted: 10.04.2019 - 6:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @31 Rick has already made a remark that 3 full-time cars next year is the goal, and if the field counts stay around the same next year I don't see how there would be an issue even if the 53/54 doesn't have a charter. 34. Sector posted: 10.05.2019 - 2:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Denny Hamlin wins the pole in his 500th career Cup start 35. Sector posted: 10.05.2019 - 2:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Denny Hamlin's pole run of 21.559 second run is a track qualifying record. This is his 4th career pole at Dover and his second of the year (Bristol in the fall being the first). He is still the ONLY driver to have won the pole for Toyota in 2019. 36. Sector posted: 10.05.2019 - 2:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Also with this pole (and Bristol's earlier in the year), they are the most at a single track for Denny Hamlin, each at 4. Denny Hamlin has never led the most laps or won at Dover. The last time Denny sat on the pole (2015) he finished 21st after leading 118 laps (career high for Denny at the track), but Martin Truex, Jr (driving for Furniture Row Racing at the time) led 131 laps that race. That is the only time Denny has led over 100 laps at Dover, and Martin Truex, Jr showed more strength than current teammates Kyle Busch and Denny Hamlin at Richmond a couple weeks ago by straight up beating them in a 1-2-3 finish. Truex starts right behind Denny in third. Watch out for some more teammate rivalry from the start of the race. 37. Maverick19 posted: 10.05.2019 - 2:42 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Gonna say that the 4, 9, and 19 are the cars to beat. They've been red hot the last few weeks and all are good at Dover. 38. Mile501 posted: 10.05.2019 - 2:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) If you swap Menard for Newman, all the drivers in the top 18 in points qualified in the top 18. 39. RaceFanX posted: 10.05.2019 - 5:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Dover International Speedway buried a time capsule on its property in preparation for this race. It will remain buried until 2069 as it is scheduled to be opened for the track's 100th anniversary. 40. Altracing posted: 10.06.2019 - 12:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Based off this weekend I'm gonna go with Larson for the win today 41. RaceFanX posted: 10.06.2019 - 2:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Corey Lajoie starts the Drydene 400 29th in the #32 Drydene Ford. Here's hoping he has a good run. 42. Altracing posted: 10.06.2019 - 2:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Logano already on pit road reporting something broken with the rear of the car 43. Altracing posted: 10.06.2019 - 2:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Logano is going to the garage before the race gets started, could be a broken axle for Logano 44. RaceFanX posted: 10.06.2019 - 2:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Logano has broke an axle or a locker on the pace lap. The #22 Ford is headed to the garage before the race even starts for repairs. 45. Altracing posted: 10.06.2019 - 2:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) We're green at Dover 46. RaceFanX posted: 10.06.2019 - 2:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Green flag is out. Hamlin leads the first lap. The start is clean, unlike yesterday. 47. Altracing posted: 10.06.2019 - 2:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Elliott just blew a motor caution is out 48. RaceFanX posted: 10.06.2019 - 2:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Chase Elliott blows up on lap 8. The pink and white Ocotber breast cancer awareness #9 Hooters Chevrolet is not going to have a good day. 49. Allen posted: 10.06.2019 - 2:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 47, caution is for debris not Chase. 50. Timothy_Eklund posted: 10.06.2019 - 2:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I wonder if this will be a repeat of yesterday's race where multiple playoff drivers have issues. 51. RaceFanX posted: 10.06.2019 - 2:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) There's a busted axle and an axle cap laying at the entrance to the pits. The general thought is that's likely from the #22. Some drivers are complaining of gear oil in the track too. If that axle is from Logano I'm surprised that didn't bring out a debris caution or delay the start. 52. Altracing posted: 10.06.2019 - 2:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Elliott is going to the garage and might be done for the day 53. RaceFanX posted: 10.06.2019 - 2:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Thanks Allen. I guess that debris did bring the yellow. 54. BraixenFennekin posted: 10.06.2019 - 2:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Chase Elliott blew the engine, and they try to fix the engine, or else, they will be done for the day 55. Sandy posted: 10.06.2019 - 2:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Monster Mile already eating up 2 playoff contenders 56. RaceFanX posted: 10.06.2019 - 2:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The #9 team tried to inact repairs but it can't be fixed. Elliot is done and will likely finish last. 57. BraixenFennekin posted: 10.06.2019 - 2:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Chase Elliott might be out for the race 58. RaceFanX posted: 10.06.2019 - 3:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Larson passes Denny Hamlin to take the lead in the restart 59. Altracing posted: 10.06.2019 - 3:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Logano is back on track 22 laps down 60. RaceFanX posted: 10.06.2019 - 3:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Lap 23 and Joey Logano is on track. 61. Altracing posted: 10.06.2019 - 3:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin is still the leader 62. Altracing posted: 10.06.2019 - 3:11 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Blaney may have an engine problem now 63. Ralphie posted: 10.06.2019 - 3:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Lap cars are fighting second place Larson harder than they fought the leader. 64. rm posted: 10.06.2019 - 3:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Appears that the axle that brought out the first caution was from Reed Sorenson's car. 65. Altracing posted: 10.06.2019 - 3:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Elliott is done for the day 66. Altracing posted: 10.06.2019 - 3:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Green flag pit stops starting now 67. Altracing posted: 10.06.2019 - 3:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Almirola too fast entering pit road 68. Altracing posted: 10.06.2019 - 3:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Pit stops have cycled through, Hamlin leads Truex by 1.8 seconds 69. Racefan posted: 10.06.2019 - 3:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 10 too fast 70. Altracing posted: 10.06.2019 - 3:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Newman, Ragan, and Wallace were also caught for speeding on pit road 71. Mile501 posted: 10.06.2019 - 3:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The 3 Hendrick cars that haven't encountered trouble are having a strong day, currently 4th (Byron), 6th (Bowman), and 7th (Johnson). The 3 Penske/Wood Brothers cars that haven't encountered trouble are running together in 10th (Blaney), 11th (Menard), and 12th (Keselowski). 72. Mile501 posted: 10.06.2019 - 3:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The field seems quite spread out today in terms of speed, with just 14 cars still on the lead lap and only 3-6 cars on each (1, 2, 3, etc.) lap down. And we're only 115 laps in. A large group from 10th to 14th is close to going a lap down, but they may just barely be saved by the coming stage caution. 73. Altracing posted: 10.06.2019 - 3:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin wins stage 1 74. Mile501 posted: 10.06.2019 - 3:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) At the stage 1 break, the lead lap includes all the playoff drivers (except the 2 who encountered early trouble), plus Johnson (7th), Jones (9th), Menard (11th), and Kurt Busch (13th). Dibenedetto (15th) will get the free pass and will join them back on the lead lap. 75. Altracing posted: 10.06.2019 - 3:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Busch too fast on pit road he will go to the rear of the field 76. Chase9Fan posted: 10.06.2019 - 3:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Engine failures are so rare now, of course it would happen during playoffs. man oh man. Not giving up hope! 77. Chase9Fan posted: 10.06.2019 - 3:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Always fascinated me, that unless there are issues, when the playoffs start, all the playoff drivers seem to ride together. Round of 12 on up, you will see like 8 of them finish top 10. And Homestead generally comes down to all 4 being in the top 4. 78. Mile501 posted: 10.06.2019 - 3:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Preece, Buescher, and Ty Dillon took the wave-around. Unless we have a caution, they seem to be on the strategy of pitting around laps 80, 160, and 240 instead of 80, 120, 200, and 240. 79. Mile501 posted: 10.06.2019 - 4:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I don't know what the difference is, but after a really spread out first stage, the top 12 cars are staying pretty close together during the second stage. 80. Eric posted: 10.06.2019 - 4:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This race has a very vintage feel to it 81. Chase9Fan posted: 10.06.2019 - 4:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 79. nature of playoffs 82. Mile501 posted: 10.06.2019 - 4:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) No one has done much passing since the restart, including Kyle Busch, who continues to run 15th, the last car on the lead lap, after his speeding penalty. 83. Altracing posted: 10.06.2019 - 4:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Green flag pit stops starting again 84. Altracing posted: 10.06.2019 - 4:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Pit stops quickly cycle through, Hamlin leads Truex by 1.9 seconds 85. Altracing posted: 10.06.2019 - 4:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Byron too fast exiting pit road 86. Mile501 posted: 10.06.2019 - 4:19 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Elliott's engine failure is just the 4th all season (excluding backmarker teams, but even they have only had 8-10 engine failures this year). 2 of them belong to Elliott; the other 2 were Gibbs cars. Before the cars became so reliable, it wasn't unusual to see more than 4 engine failures in a single race. 87. Sector posted: 10.06.2019 - 4:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Didn't Jimmie Johnson needed to come into pit road during the pace laps before the race even began earlier this year in the spring at Dover also? Has it ever happened at the same track at two different events in the same year? 88. RaceFanX posted: 10.06.2019 - 4:26 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @86 Indeed. The question of reliability always used to be an equalizer in the past since even if one guy was dominating they might have a mechanical issue and suddenly the race was wide open. I kind of miss that but mechanical evolution has made modern race and road cars rather bullet proof. 89. RaceFanX posted: 10.06.2019 - 4:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Byron was fifth when he got dinged for speeding. He's now one lap down but running in the free pass spot. 90. Sector posted: 10.06.2019 - 4:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Guys, at this point Kevin Harvick is going to become the new driver and fourth to lead the most points of 2019. Talk about a strong second of the season for him and the #4 team. He was only 21 points behind Joey Logano entering this race, and the stage points is cutting the deficit big time. He was only 4 points behind Kyle Busch as well. Kevin is looking to achieve the feat (scoring the most points in a season) for the fourth time! If it weren't for the two penalties of his wins (Vegas and Texas) last year in 2018, he would be looking at his fifth right now. Truly amazing. 91. Altracing posted: 10.06.2019 - 4:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Truex to the lead 92. joey2448 posted: 10.06.2019 - 4:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Lap 229 and Truex finally is able to get to the outside of Hamlin and sails by for the lead on the backstretch. 93. Maverick19 posted: 10.06.2019 - 4:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) First time Hamlin's been passed on track, he led 218 laps prior to that. 94. RaceFanX posted: 10.06.2019 - 4:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Truex goes high and gets passed Hamlin after Hamlin briefly got held up by Logano's many laps down car. Larson races up and takes second as the leaders are all being held up by the #22 Ford that is 24 laps back. 95. Mile501 posted: 10.06.2019 - 4:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @88 - Just another factor that makes modern-day racing less exciting than it used to be. Even if guys had large leads in the past, it was far less certain that their equipment would hold up. 96. joey2448 posted: 10.06.2019 - 4:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Only a handful of laps left in stage 2 and the top four cars are racing close. Truex trying to hold off Larson, Hamlin and Harvick, who's within a second of the lead. 97. RaceFanX posted: 10.06.2019 - 4:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Weird to see the leaders having this much trouble with lapped cars. Logano trying to be a thorn in the lead lap cars side. Truex is finally passed him. 98. Mile501 posted: 10.06.2019 - 4:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Menard has gone a lap down, effectively taking the free pass spot away from Byron. 99. Altracing posted: 10.06.2019 - 4:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Truex wins stage 2 100. RaceFanX posted: 10.06.2019 - 4:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) There's some profane messages on the radio being directed at Logano right now. 101. RaceFanX posted: 10.06.2019 - 4:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The NBCSN broadcast had a technically glitch for a second there, briefly going to a static image of the track devoid of fans, cars, or anything with only low quality audio from the announcers before the full video was restored for pit stops. 102. Altracing posted: 10.06.2019 - 4:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Larson wins the race off pit road and will be the new leader 103. Altracing posted: 10.06.2019 - 4:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Buescher has retired from the race 104. Clint posted: 10.06.2019 - 4:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) How sad is the racing when the leader falls to sixth with 150 to go and there's practically no hope for him to win now lol 105. Altracing posted: 10.06.2019 - 4:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin saying the motor is blowing up 106. RaceFanX posted: 10.06.2019 - 4:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Denny Hamlin, running second, is reporting that the engine on the #11 is having an issue and might be blowing up. He hasn't slowed down yet though. 107. Canadianfan posted: 10.06.2019 - 4:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @103 Broken crankshaft per JTG's twitter. 108. RaceFanX posted: 10.06.2019 - 4:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) With 120 to go Larson is up front by 3.4 seconds, looking to break out of his long losing streak. 109. Altracing posted: 10.06.2019 - 5:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Blaney coming to pit road reporting no brakes 110. Altracing posted: 10.06.2019 - 5:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Blaney now going to the garage 111. RaceFanX posted: 10.06.2019 - 5:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Ryan Blaney pits on lap 299 with no brakes. That's going to be a big hit to his playoff hopes. He was in the top-10 and now the PPG #12 Ford is headed to the garage. 112. RaceFanX posted: 10.06.2019 - 5:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Blaney and Logano are now both in the "miss the cut" zone. Rough day for Penske. 113. Chase9Fan posted: 10.06.2019 - 5:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Typical, unless there are issues to the playoff drivers, they all seem to run together during races. Never understood why that happens. haha 114. RaceFanX posted: 10.06.2019 - 5:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The #11 Toyota is still chugging along in second. Hamlin hasn't mentioned that motor issue lately. 115. TTaylor944 posted: 10.06.2019 - 5:10 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I said before this race that you had the top-7 and the bottom-5. Two of those top-7 drivers had problems, which they can recover from. Blaney's problem is probably one that probably can't be recovered from. 116. Altracing posted: 10.06.2019 - 5:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Green flag pit stops starting now, could be the final stops of the day 117. FoMoCo posted: 10.06.2019 - 5:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (4) Outstanding side by side racing. Nice job Nascar. Oh wait. 118. Altracing posted: 10.06.2019 - 5:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jones too fast on pit road 119. Mile501 posted: 10.06.2019 - 5:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @115 - If we're stuck with this playoff system, I am at least glad for playoff points, which reward drivers who have had the best seasons up to this point so that one bad race doesn't necessarily ruin their chances. The system we had from 2014 to 2016 was the absolute worst. 120. Mbenoit posted: 10.06.2019 - 5:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Larson trying to end a 75-race winless streak dating back to the fall Richmond race of 2017. Since that win he's finished 2nd NINE times. 121. Sandy posted: 10.06.2019 - 5:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) chase Finished last at Dover a week after winning at the roval is a reverse of what happened at Pocono and Watkins glen when he Finished last at Pocono after crashing and then won the next race at Watkins Glen 122. Altracing posted: 10.06.2019 - 5:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Pit stops have cycled through, Larson leads Truex by 6.2 seconds 123. Mile501 posted: 10.06.2019 - 5:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hopefully we don't see a debris caution around lap 380 that results in Larson finishing 2nd. 124. Mile501 posted: 10.06.2019 - 5:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Paul Menard led 6 laps before pitting, putting his total at 11 laps led this season. Before that, he had been the only driver in the top 25 in points who had led fewer than 10 laps this year. 125. TTaylor944 posted: 10.06.2019 - 5:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This has been one of those nice, authentic races. Which means NASCAR is probably getting that handy debris caution ready. 126. FoMoCo posted: 10.06.2019 - 5:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (4) A downvote for 117? Instead of being anonymous, offer an intelligent rebuttal. 127. A.J. posted: 10.06.2019 - 5:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @124: It's William Byron a lap down who needs the caution, not Kyle Busch. So no. But I'd rather see it stay green anyway if it means Larson gets a win. 128. A.J. posted: 10.06.2019 - 5:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bowman drives past Hamlin into 3rd place?!? That 11 must really be "blowing up" albeit extremely slowly, unlike the 9. 129. Altracing posted: 10.06.2019 - 5:31 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Larson's stuck in traffic and that's allowing Truex to close the gap on him 130. joey2448 posted: 10.06.2019 - 5:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Lapped traffic has really slowed up leader Kyle Larson. Truex has cut the gap from six seconds to now 1.7 sec with 40 laps to go. 131. RaceFanX posted: 10.06.2019 - 5:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Truex has chopped the lead from six seconds down to one. There's 37 laps left in this one. 132. Altracing posted: 10.06.2019 - 5:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Keselowski pretty slow on the track 133. Altracing posted: 10.06.2019 - 5:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Larson's clear of traffic for now 134. joey2448 posted: 10.06.2019 - 5:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This has been a huge day for Alex Bowman so far. Last week, Bowman slipped by into the second round with a rough elimination race at the Roval that ended with a second-place finish. This week at Dover, Bowman is currently running third on track while his main rivals for the playoff round have slipped. Bowman currently up 17 points on the cutoff with 28 laps left. 135. Daniel posted: 10.06.2019 - 5:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Go Larson! 136. Mile501 posted: 10.06.2019 - 5:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Byron has to be kicking himself for speeding on pit road in a practically caution-free race with no chances to get a lap back, but at least so many drivers have fallen multiple laps down that he'll still get a decent finish in 13th. 137. RaceFanX posted: 10.06.2019 - 5:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Landon Cassill gets the wall but he gets to pit road without causing any debris. No yellow, we stay green with 10 to go. 138. joey2448 posted: 10.06.2019 - 5:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Landon Cassill slow on track with a possible tire issue with 10 laps to go, but he gets off track and we stay green. Larson breathes a sigh of relief. 139. RaceFanX posted: 10.06.2019 - 5:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Larson leads by three seconds over Truex with seven to go. 140. Mile501 posted: 10.06.2019 - 5:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) It's amazing that NASCAR didn't throw a caution for that given how much green-flag racing we've seen today. 141. Mile501 posted: 10.06.2019 - 5:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Top 4 in the spring race: 19 88 42 4 Top 4 currently: 42 19 88 4 142. joey2448 posted: 10.06.2019 - 5:47 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) Kyle Larson wins at Dover and snaps a 75-race winless streak that dates back to Sept. 9, 2017, at Richmond. Larson punches his way to the third round. 143. Altracing posted: 10.06.2019 - 5:47 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Larson goes back to victory lane after 2 years at Dover 144. Daniel posted: 10.06.2019 - 5:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Green is going to be at a lucky collar for Kyle Larson hopefully? 145. A.J. posted: 10.06.2019 - 5:48 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) Took them long enough, but the 42 guys finally figured out that "new" Camaro! Congrats to Larson on his first win since back in 2017. 146. TTaylor944 posted: 10.06.2019 - 5:51 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @141 Alex Bowman averages a 2.5 at Dover and is third best. Those look like Formula 1 stats. 147. joey2448 posted: 10.06.2019 - 6:02 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Here's the Cup playoff picture after race 1 of the second round: 1. Larson W 2. Truex +63 3. Hamlin +48 4. KyBusch +48 5. Harvick +42 6. Keselowski +20 7. Bowman +17 8. Byron +0 --- 9. Logano -0 10. Bowyer -4 11. Elliott -7 12. Blaney -22 Talladega and Kansas remain in this round. 148. GiveMajeskiAChance posted: 10.06.2019 - 6:05 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) This is refreshing. I'm not a Larson fan by any means but not seeing a Toyota in victory lane is always a pleasant surprise. 149. Corey posted: 10.06.2019 - 6:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @147 And next week is Talladega. 150. Corey posted: 10.06.2019 - 6:05 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @146 Imagine how Harvick feels. Finishes 4th in both races, but loses to the same three guys. 151. Racefan posted: 10.06.2019 - 6:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yes 152. EARL posted: 10.06.2019 - 6:21 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) They started this race too late, it was basically caution free and it was only 30 min from sunset when the race finished. If there were a normal amount of cautions it would've been cut short. 153. Joe posted: 10.06.2019 - 6:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Larson might have won the race, but will he win inspection? You never know. That's Larson. 154. Corey posted: 10.06.2019 - 6:26 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Three green flag runs of over 100 laps. When was the last time that happened? Also with Logano's early troubles, he only managed to pass the 4 DNF cars. I'm going to assume that he was in the last running position all race. 155. Wil posted: 10.06.2019 - 6:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The Jones files: another top 5 run, sped on pit road and finished 15th. At least it was his fault this time. I feel bad for myself. 156. Yeet posted: 10.06.2019 - 6:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Although Blaney being the only driver in double digits below the cutline, he sure is not far out of it. Penske is just dominant in restrictor plate racing and I believe Blaney will be able to score a lot of points in the opening stages if he makes sure he stays with his Penske teammates. I don't really see him winning the race but Penske's cars are sure going to provide Blaney a chance to drastically close the cutline if not surpass it. 157. Wil posted: 10.06.2019 - 6:45 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Blaney's a lot like Chase Elliott at the plate tracks-- he's always fast and running up front, but always seems to get wrecked in the big one. Elliott avoided the big one at Dega in the spring and won. Maybe Blaney can do the same next week. 158. possum posted: 10.06.2019 - 7:04 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) @152 - good point. Hopefully one of these days that happens, and NASCAR finally starts using some common sense on starting times. 159. RandomFacts posted: 10.06.2019 - 7:28 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) With his 2nd place finish Martin Truex Jr picks up his 100th career top 5 and 200th career top 10 finish. 160. Mile501 posted: 10.06.2019 - 7:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @159 - That's a very interesting stat, that exactly half his top 10s are top 5s, and they're both multiples of 100. Even more, since he currently has 25 wins, exactly 1/4 of his top 5s and 1/8 of his top 10s are wins. 161. Chunks posted: 10.06.2019 - 7:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Is this the first time that a 400 mile race went under three hours? 162. Testracer00 posted: 10.06.2019 - 7:40 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Larson officially passes inspection, sealing his 1st win in over 2 years and his 1st-ever advancement to the Round of 8! Hamlin was missing 1 lug nut and Harvick's car is going to NASCAR R&D, but everybody passed inspection for this race. 163. Spen posted: 10.06.2019 - 7:40 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Dang, Front Row Joe finished a lap ahead of teammate Ross Chastain? Good for Joe! 164. PucciMan posted: 10.06.2019 - 7:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) All cars passed tech. Larson gets the win. 165. Corey posted: 10.06.2019 - 7:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @161 No and its not even close. The 1999 Michigan June race went caution free. It took them only 2:17.56 to complete the 400 miles. That's just one example. 166. Corey posted: 10.06.2019 - 7:59 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Even then, the 1963 Firecracker 400 at Daytona took only 2:39.01 to complete. As far as I can tell, this is the first 400 mile race to break 3 hours. Generally, any 400 miler on the bigger trackers are likely to be under 3 hours as the cars are ticking of the miles at a much faster rate, then a place like Dover. It does appear that this race is the first 400 miler at Dover to break the 3 Hour barrier. The first 400 miler in the Fall of 1997 was the previous record holder at 3 hours and 50 seconds. That race had 1 caution in it. 167. Maverick19 posted: 10.06.2019 - 8:10 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) Really wish we had the full season points again, we've got Harvick, Busch, Logano, Truex, and Hamlin within 49 points with 6 races left. 168. Mile501 posted: 10.06.2019 - 8:14 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) @167 - What an epic battle that could have been. It's a shame NASCAR forces us to miss out on it. 169. Sector posted: 10.06.2019 - 8:22 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) The top 5 in non-Playoff standings are now within the 60 point cushion, which means any one of them can have the most points scored in the next race! Kyle Busch's consistency and Joey Logano's stage point dominance have all evaporated and been caught up by Kevin Harvick, Martin Truex, Jr and Denny Hamlin. Kevin Harvick now leads for the first time this season. 170. TTaylor944 posted: 10.06.2019 - 8:32 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) The full season points are fun to look at sometimes, but the reality is a lot of teams would have had different strategies if a playoff system weren't in affect. People often say Gordon would have won the 2004 championship if not for the chase, but it more likely would have been Johnson. He held a more than 200 point lead through 23 races then had three straight mechanical failures. They didn't just happen to have bad luck, they were testing those three races. 171. Mile501 posted: 10.06.2019 - 8:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @170 - Very true. I did some in-depth research on that a couple of years ago (trying to determine who would have most likely won each full-season championship, not just going by points), which you can read here if you're interested: https://www.racing-reference.info/showblog?id=3139 For this season, though, it would likely be very difficult to make such a determination. 172. Mile501 posted: 10.06.2019 - 8:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Logano: "We're out there racing. I've got to race. Here's the situation...there's four or five cars that I could possibly catch. That's five points. I'm in by zero points right now, so we'd better get 'em all." Hamlin: "Make up position? He's 24 laps down. That's the most idiotic statement I've ever heard. We're battling for the end of the stage. It's not your day, you had bad luck. We get it. But why? I don't understand that at all. That's just a stupid statement by an idiot. ... Probably shouldn't call Joey an idiot. He's not an idiot. But that was just a bad choice to say that he's fighting for something. ... If you're one lap down I get it. Even two, just not 24. ... But he just pissed off some guys that he's racing with now. So now we're just going to race him extra hard, and for what? Because he didn't want to go 26 laps down?" Full quotes: https://www.jayski.com/2019/10/06/denny-hamlin-not-happy-with-joey-logano-after-dover-race/ 173. Mile501 posted: 10.06.2019 - 8:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) No one finished 3 laps down. Given the way the race played out with long green-flag runs, that seems odd to me. 174. Wil posted: 10.06.2019 - 8:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @172 I thought that was pretty ridiculous from Logano. He's a great driver and knows he's not going to screw up by getting into someone, but he still raced the leaders when he was 25 laps down. He's a little too confident for his own good. 175. Ryan posted: 10.06.2019 - 9:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @173 Also, only one driver finished four laps down, only one driver finished five laps down, and only one finished six laps down. @172 I don't blame Logano going back out there getting all he can because he is tied for the final spot, however, getting in the way of the leader is a problem. 25 years ago he could have gained more positions because the nature of attrition then, but times are different. It didn't help him any by staying 24 laps down. Being 26 laps down he would have finished the same position. 176. Ryan posted: 10.06.2019 - 9:04 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Harv started and finished his number. It's a shame he didn't lead four laps. 177. TeamDCRfan posted: 10.06.2019 - 9:12 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) The axle that caused the first yellow came from the 77. Reed Sorensons exact words when it broke: "The car Sh*t out an Axle" 178. RaceFanX posted: 10.06.2019 - 9:32 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Matt DiBenedetto turns in a great run and finishes seventh. He'd never finished better than 20th at Dover before this race. 179. Nucl3arWa4le posted: 10.06.2019 - 9:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsor updates #3 - AAA " We Know Cars & Drivers" #8 - Lucas Oil 30 Years #19 - Bass Pro Shops / Tracker ATV's & Boats #34 - The Pete Store / Peterbilt #47 - Kroger / No Yolks / Velveeta #52 - DriveSmart / Element Protection Plans 180. Corey posted: 10.06.2019 - 9:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @178 With that finish, he now owns half of Leavine's Top 10's with 7 of them. 6 of the 7 have come at non-plate tracks. Of the other 7 Top 10's for Leavine, Michael McDowell has 4, while Kasey Kahne, Regan Smith and Scott Speed each have 1. 6 of those 7 came on plate tracks with the long exception being McDowell at Homestead in 2016. That one came in a one off 59 car. 181. nohbody posted: 10.06.2019 - 9:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Harvick takes the points lead. Looking for his fourth Winston Cup championship. 182. Ryan posted: 10.06.2019 - 9:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Honesty though, Hamlin and Logano haven't cared too much for each other since their days at JGR AND the Logano vs. JGR/Toyota rivalry reached a high at the Auto Club 400 in 2013 when Logano and Hamlin tangled on the last lap racing for the win and Hamlin being out several races due to the crash he had. It reached even higher last year when Logano dive bombed himself into the Final Four at Homestead hitting Truex (Toyota) on the last lap at Martinsville winning the race. He would later pass Truex late in the race at Homestead winning the race and championship. No love lost there 183. Ryan posted: 10.06.2019 - 9:49 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @178 Makes you wonder where he is going to put the Wood Brothers in victory lane next year for their 100th win and his first win... 184. Sector posted: 10.06.2019 - 9:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This is the first time Denny Hamlin led the most laps and led at least 50% of the race at Dover at the Cup level. 185. Anthony posted: 10.06.2019 - 10:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Race Record was broken for Dover in this race. This was the fastest race in Dover history at 2 hours 56 minutes and 49 seconds, beating the prior record of 3 hours 0 minutes and 50 seconds set in Fall 1997. Also setting a record average speed of 135.734mph, beating the prior record in Fall of 1997 at 132.719mph 186. Corey posted: 10.06.2019 - 10:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @185 Thats just for a 400 mile race. The first 2 races here were 300 mile affairs that took 2:35 and 2:40 respectively. Of the 500 mile races that took place between the Spring of 1971 and 1997, the fastest is the Spring 1974 event that came in at 3:54.40. Only 1 other race even broke the 4 Hour barrier, coming in the fall of 1990. 187. Sector posted: 10.06.2019 - 10:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #184 also to add to that this is the first time Denny Hamlin led the most laps in 2019 in any NASCAR national series race. 188. Anthony posted: 10.06.2019 - 11:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) fewest cautions in a Dover Cup race since 1997 189. Sector posted: 10.07.2019 - 5:15 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Earlier this year Chase Elliott finished last (38th) at an unique track in Pocono. He goes on to win at the road course at Watkins Glen the following week. Last week he won at another road course at the Charlotte ROVAL. He finished last (38th as well) at another unique track in this race at Dover. He also led the most laps in both road course races and zero laps at the tracks he finished 38th in. Both 38th finishes were resulted in DNF (Did Not Finish). This has both been done in the same season in 2019. Counting the actual races where he finished 38th, the 38th place finishes happened exactly 10 races apart. The pairs has some interesting parallels. Earlier this year at Pocono he qualified 18 (where he finished 38th). The ROVAL he qualified 19th (where he won). Earlier this year at Watkins Glen he started on the pole (where he won), whereas today at Dover he qualified in the Top 5 in 5th (where he finished 38th). Chase was 8th in the standings entering and leaving the Pocono and Watkins Glen races occurred earlier this year. He only completed 83 laps at Pocono of the 163 laps, if you rearrange the number sequence 83 is the exact position he finished (38). He led 80 laps at Watkins Glen when he won. He led 35 laps at the ROVAL, which if you add 3+5=8. 8 laps is all Chase completed at Dover. Lastly, his teammate, Alex Bowman driving the #88 car in this Dover race, finished 3rd. His other teammate with the #48 (the only other teammate that includes the #8 in his number), Jimmie Johnson finished 8th. This trend all started back at Pocono when Chase Elliott finished 38th, when Martin Truex, Jr also qualified 8th and finished 3rd in that Pocono race. Chase Elliott beat Martin Truex, Jr at Watkins Glen the following week. With that being said, Martin Truex, Jr finished 2nd at Watkins Glen and this Dover race (both being the second of the two back-to-back races where Chase Elliott finished either last and/or first). Martin also qualified 8th at the ROVAL but finished 7th. 190. Mile501 posted: 10.07.2019 - 5:38 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @175 - I don't really agree with Logano there, either, but in fairness, had he only ended up being 23 laps down at the end of the race, he would have gained 1 position and 1 point (Garrett Smithley finished 23 laps down). At the moment, that 1 point would put him in the top 8 instead of out. So while I don't agree with him, I can see his point. 191. Mile501 posted: 10.07.2019 - 5:47 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Drivers ranked 15th-18th in full-season points continue to be very close (just 13 points apart at the moment), and Paul Menard is kind of by himself in 19th, with a 50+ point gap in either direction. But the battle for the last spot in the top 20 is really heating up. After spending the first half of the season stuck around 25th in points, Matt DiBenedetto has been steadily moving upward and is nearing the top 20. For a while, it has looked like Chris Buescher would hold onto 20th spot, but after 2 bad finishes in the last 3 races, DiBenedetto has closed to within 14 points of Buescher for that spot. 192. Wil posted: 10.07.2019 - 5:49 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) @189 I see his point too (literally and figuratively). 193. Spen posted: 10.07.2019 - 7:39 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Corey: Spring of '74 would have been a 450 mile race, so it wouldn't count. 194. Spen posted: 10.07.2019 - 7:39 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) In addition to the race record, we also set a new qualifying record. When was the last time we set both records in the same week? (Other than the roval, anyway) 195. Anonymous posted: 10.07.2019 - 7:39 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Matt DiBenedetto with another Top 10 finish. That's his 7th of the season which matches the Leavine Racing total from their previous eight seasons! Paul Menard can't retire fast enough indeed! 196. Joshua posted: 10.07.2019 - 7:39 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) The comments from each on the Logano-Hamlin situation is a window into why Joey Logano has a championship and Hamlin doesn't. 197. TheDewCrew posted: 10.07.2019 - 7:39 am Rate this comment: (2) (0) This race felt 'pure'. There wasn't any senseless cautions, and it wasn't manufactured. It just felt like an old school Nascar race, something we haven't seen in quite awhile. Congrats to that #42 team on the win. Solid runs for Jimmie, and Matt. Also, did anyone notice that the 4 car, started 4th, and finished 4th? 198. Anonymous posted: 10.07.2019 - 7:40 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) @170 the "they were testing those three races" was a tale concocted several years after the face. In addition, Johnson doesn't win Martinsville, Atlanta, and Darlington during the Chase without the Hendrick plane tragedy. 199. TheDewCrew posted: 10.07.2019 - 8:30 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) @198 But, Johnson had already won Martinsville when he learned the news 200. George_Costanza posted: 10.07.2019 - 1:05 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) Looking at the non-playoff standing after this race, it makes me think how much more interesting that would be, with five drivers who legit can with the Championship. Sure, I'm not a fan of any of the five drivers, but they're the ones who deserve the Championship the most. 201. Stifler posted: 10.07.2019 - 1:34 pm Rate this comment: (3) (1) @200 Absolutely. I hate the playoffs. Nascar's perceived need to become more like stick and ball sports is frustrating. The sport did better without playoffs and intermissions (stages). Although I've somewhat grown on stages, feel it would be better to award points after the end of stage without cautions. I will never grow on the playoffs, though. Implement a 36 race championship format, the most points wins. It rewards the best driver for the whole season, not one race. Enough said. 202. AJ73 posted: 10.07.2019 - 2:26 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @201 My thoughts exactly. Matt Kenseth won the championship in 2003 by being the most consistent driver over all 36 races. The playoffs are a joke. NASCAR shouldn't feel the need to be like other sports because it's not. It's different for a reason. If I could change one thing about NASCAR, I'd bring the old points system back. 203. Mile501 posted: 10.07.2019 - 2:34 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @202 - Even something like the original chase, but containing the most challenging tracks, would be semi-okay. But this current system is ridiculous, and purely for entertainment value. But, whether we like it or not, we keep coming here and discussing it, so I guess it's still accomplishing what NASCAR wanted it to accomplish. 204. Canadianfan posted: 10.07.2019 - 3:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) First test of the Next-Gen (GEN7) car at Richmond tomorrow and Wednesday. It will be driven by Austin Dillon. The car will not be any specific make but simply a body that meets NASCAR's wind tunnel parameters. 205. Mile501 posted: 10.07.2019 - 3:33 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) @204 - Of all the people they could have gotten to test it, Austin Dillon was the choice? 206. Maverick19 posted: 10.07.2019 - 3:51 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) ?Also, did anyone notice that the 4 car, started 4th, and finished 4th?? And an average running position of 4th. 207. JimDavis posted: 10.07.2019 - 4:24 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "If I could change one thing about NASCAR, I'd bring the old points system back." I would do away with the double file restarts before addressing the point system. Whatever the issues with the current points system it doesn't have the perverse incentives and the completely unnecessary element of luck that double file restarts have. 208. Corey posted: 10.07.2019 - 4:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @205 It's probably because RCR has no cars in the playoffs. Much easier for a team and driver to focus on this when they don't have the playoffs to worry about. 209. Corey posted: 10.07.2019 - 4:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @207 I would get rid of the Lucky Dog. Keep the wave arounds, but if your a lap down, then you should stay that way. 210. Anon posted: 10.07.2019 - 5:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I wouldn't do away with double file restarts, but I would enable lane choice. It is unfortunate when starting 4th, or sometimes 6th, is better than 2nd. Let them choose their lanes and I think this would be a lot better. Regarding stage racing, I agree with an earlier poster, and this is something I've mentioned in the past as well. Do away with the "stage breaks" and just award points at the predetermined stage lap. There's no need to throw a caution for a stage break. Just say at lap 125 stage 1 is complete, award the points, and keep it green. I really enjoy the concept of stage racing, just not the way it is implemented. Regarding the points, I think it'll take an extremely unpopular/undeserving champion to get this to change. Had Newman won it the year he was close, or if, say, William Byron or Clint Bowyer win it this year, change could come. I think going back to the points "Matt Kenseth ruined" is what I would prefer, but award significantly more points for wins, and possibly even top 5s and top 10s, as well as keeping cautionless stage racing. I would also award some points for winning a pole, maybe the equivalent of a stage win? Top 5 and Top 10 have always been "important" stats in racing history, so I do think finishing 5th should be worth significantly more than 6th, and 10th should be worth significantly more than 11th. Going back to the year Kenseth "ruined" the old points model, Newman had the most wins and top 5s, as well as the 2nd most top 10s, and a ridiculous 11 poles, but he only finished 6th in standings because of all his DNFs. Time permitting I'd love to recalculate that season to see how the points would have turned out in my format. The other change I'd implement has to do with lapped cars as well. I don't know if I agree or not about lucky dogs being eliminated. I'm pretty neutral on them, and enjoy guys battling for that lucky dog position, and would hate to see that eliminated. I do see the other side of it though, so I'm unsure on it. However, what I would do is eliminate the 5-minute clock, and instead implement a lap rule. It would have to be different per track, but the rule would be if you are X laps down, you are officially declared out. This would've eliminated the Logano problem from this week as a recent example. Come up with a number such as 5 laps for Daytona, Dega, Indy, Pocono, and road courses; maybe 7-8 laps at 1.5 and 2.0 milers; and 10 laps at the short tracks; something like that. NASCAR also needs a complete merchandising overhaul, and some tracks need a facilities overhaul, but I'll save that rant as I'm sure no one wants to hear it here. To give a little credit though, the facilities changes they made at Phoenix (ISM raceway) were outstanding in my opinion. 211. Anon posted: 10.07.2019 - 6:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I went ahead and calculated Kenseth vs Newman in 2003 just for fun using my scoring method (minus stage points as that's too hard to calculate, and Kenseth would have been crushed on stage points based on how he raced that year. He surely races differently with stage points that year, so the comparison with them included isn't very accurate in my opinion). With that calculation, Kenseth wins the championship over Newman by just 18 points. In my scoring the difference between 1st and 2nd ended up being 21 points. There's also an 18 point difference between 2nd and 10th in my scoring, so the championship would have truly been on the line at Homestead. If you add in my proposed 5 bonus points for winning a pole, Newman wins the championship by 37, though it is also unfair to include that in the comparison because Kenseth openly didn't care about qualifying that year, and would have qualified differently. With that comparison though, it proves that it would have made the 2003 season way more exciting, without introducing unnecessary playoffs or chase formats with points resets, and instead rewarding wins, top 5s, and top 10s more appropriately. 212. Clint posted: 10.07.2019 - 6:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The one thing I would absolutely change is the playoffs, they need to go. Keep season long points with a few double point races sprinkled in like in Indycar to keep it interesting if a guy has a huge lead. Make the crown jewel events double points and keep the season long points. Also add a few more road courses and chop a month off the season. Run 32 races with the season finishing in October that way more of the deciding races are in the latter part of summer into fall and get more out of the NFL's way. I have zero faith in the Nascar braintrust making any truly impactful changes to the product though. The gen7 will be twitchy and aero sensitive just like the cars today. Teams are already saying the car should be pushed back to 2022 when the engine package will be ready but Nascar in their infinite "wisdom" is just telling them to get onboard with the 2021 debut. It'll be rushed and lackluster and the broadcasters will praise nascar for their efforts and try to brainwash you into thinking the racing is good. 213. LarsonDixonLine posted: 10.07.2019 - 7:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Plus elimination has also allowed for added excitement and pressure for drivers to perform well, much like the Roval, watching Almirola, and especially Bowman and Newman do everything to get every last position they could to get into the next round is a sight to see. Drivers giving it all they have for every position to move on is exhilarating and I think brings out the best in drivers, or in Newman's case the worst, as he pushed a little too hard and made a costly mistake. 214. LarsonDixonLine posted: 10.07.2019 - 7:24 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Personally I like the idea of the playoffs, with one major exception, the final race. A season shouldn't come down to one race like it does. I like the elimination style and even the opportunity for lesser teams to get their name into relevance by getting a wildcard win and getting in, iI mean cars 12-16 likely won't be relevant in the playoffs anyways and it further rewards a small team when they breakthrough and win. Although I do like Anon's idea too. The main reason I prefer the playoffs over the Winston Cup format is because it significantly rewards winning, and in racing the goal is to win, not finish 5th for a ?good points day?. This format incentivizes drivers to take risks and get up front rather than ride around the back end of the top 10 to stay up front. And also do away with the cautions for stage racing, but keep the stages in play, just no cautions. 215. Sector posted: 10.07.2019 - 8:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Top 5 and Top 10 have always been "important" stats in racing history, so I do think finishing 5th should be worth significantly more than 6th, and 10th should be worth significantly more than 11th." That's how the points were arranged before the "one point per higher position" were arrange. Except it was 2nd through 6th (5 points per positions and 7th through 11th (4 points per positions) while 12th on down were 3 points per positions) because the winner would get a huge boost in win, especially after leading the most laps. 216. Anon posted: 10.07.2019 - 9:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) True, but that's pretty minimal. I'd score 1 point per position 40th to 11th, giving 11th 30 points. Then 10th gets 41 up to 45 for 6th. Then 5th gets 56, up to 59 for 2nd, and finally 80 for the win. The older scoring method really didn't give a very significant bonus to winning, this method would do that without being excessive. Throw in stage points and bonus for a pole, and you could make up a max of 114 points between 1st and last, and a max of 56 between 1st and 2nd in the right situation. 217. Anon posted: 10.07.2019 - 9:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I did consider giving an extra 20 to the winner as well to avoid the situation where guys finishing top 5 could score more points than the winner. I've never liked that. If max points for 2nd by winning both stages and a pole is 94, than a win with no stage points should be worth more than 94. I left that out in the end because it seemed excessive, but I'm still unsure, as I really hate it when the race winner doesn't score the most points. 218. ScottB posted: 10.07.2019 - 11:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #205: "Of all the people they could have gotten to test it, Austin Dillon was the choice?" It really seems odd to me that NASCAR wouldn't use a recently retired (or semi-retired) driver for these kinds of tests. Matt Kenseth comes to mind, among others. That way you get a veteran who has a wealth of experience to draw on, and it doesn't favor anyone who's going to be running for the championship in the next year. 219. Anon posted: 10.07.2019 - 11:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm pretty sure Dillon was selected because Richard Childress agreed to build a car specifically for this test. Nascar can't just tell Childress who will test the car he built. 220. Canadianfan posted: 10.08.2019 - 1:57 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @219 Somebody asked Pockrass on twitter since he was the first to post the story. This was his response. ?sometimes they ask around. RCR has often done some development work b/c of history in the sport. Layout of the buildings on its campus allows for some projects to be done w/o many people having access to info.? 221. 1995-Subaru-WRX-Sti posted: 10.08.2019 - 1:59 pm Rate this comment: (2) (1) More Gen-7 info: -Stock like front and rear bumpers, no splitter or valence. No Radiator pan or underbody aero. Raised side skirts -Completely symmetrical composite bodies, re-proportioned. -Lower profile tires and rims. -Street Car grill location. -Small block production based V8's <306 cu. in. Chevy LS, Ford Coyote, Toyota UZed3. Tightly controlled engine BOP. Discuss. 222. Corey posted: 10.08.2019 - 2:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @221 So what you are saying is that the cars will look more like there street counterparts? I don't the cars have looked like that since the mid 80's. 223. 1995-Subaru-WRX-Sti posted: 10.08.2019 - 2:40 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Based on the picture I have seen a Chevy Camaro looks like a Chevy Camaro. Though the picture I saw (a concept) had a very small rear spoiler. Also with no or little aero bits it seems the teams will not be able too slam the cars too the ground and keep them there. The engines are also downsized and unrestricted @ 550hp too what the OEMs want. Pretty sure NASCAR will keep the cars as close as possible aero wise. 224. Anonymous posted: 10.08.2019 - 3:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) No front splitter? Finally. Those things have made NASCAR racers ugly from the word go. 225. Texas posted: 10.08.2019 - 3:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) One thing I noticed from the picture posted is the lack of a cowl intake 226. 1995-Subaru-WRX-Sti posted: 10.08.2019 - 3:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Now I would be okay with the concept becoming a reality (at least in someway.) Smaller engines I am more then okay with. Needed too do it a long time ago. The bodies being symmetrical. For years the teams have been twisting the bodies and helping ruin the racing. Banning the teams from touching them will help. I would be okay with aero bits as long as they are small. But I would rather have none. I keep reading conflicting stuff about what will on the car. The chassis and bodies seem too set. The rest I do not know. 227. Tarheel posted: 10.08.2019 - 5:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 223, I've been convinced for several years that using air to glue the cars to the track starting ten or fifteen years ago is the primary reasons the racing quality went downhill. Even at restrictor plate races up through the nineties, the best cars noses were still several inches off the ground, and when one car caught another one, it could loosen up the car in front and pass them instead of hitting a wall of air and getting stuck behind them. I hope that's what Nascar has in mind. 228. 1995-Subaru-WRX-Sti posted: 10.08.2019 - 5:55 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) ^ You can blame the teams for that. Slamming cars on the ground started in F1 and IndyCar then NASCAR followed. Even with the air dam / valence teams still sealed off the cars. The Gen 4 car is prove. Now could have NASCAR gone uber psycho with the ride height rules? Yeah they could have but let it slide. Even back in the mid-90's aero problems where creeping up. 229. possum posted: 10.08.2019 - 5:57 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @226 - apropos of aero bits, the body shape of a passenger car inherently generates lift at the rear. If you want to race faster than ~100 mph you have to have some sort of aero device, a spoiler or a wing or some sort of underbody aero, to counteract that lift and keep the back of the car from floating. The trick is to proportion those aero bits to counteract lift without generating downforce beyond the car's actual weight. 230. possum posted: 10.08.2019 - 6:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @221 - no splitter is a great thing, and something NASCAR should have done Jan 12 2006 (i.e. the day after the splitter was introduced). Finally a driver will be able to run thru the grass without tearing the whole front of the car off. Hey, maybe NASCAR can even make safety a priority, rip up some asphalt, and put the gravel traps back at the road courses. Completely symetrical bodies I have mixed feelings on - on the one hand, they'll look a hell of a lot better than the twisted freaks they've run for years. On the other, as a technical guy I like that there's something a sharp carbuilder can do to get an advantage. Lower profile rims & tires - I'll bet that doesn't last more than a couple of weeks before Goodyear forces them to go back to the current wheels. But we'll have a whole bunch of melted beads and hard crashes first. Street car grille location - who cares? Now, if they make them put the radiator and engine air intake in the stock location, that'd be a good change. 5 liter production based engine with BOP - hate it, hate it, hate it. Make it production based, give them some dimensional limits, and then let the engine builder make the best engine he can. It's a race, not a concours d'elegance. (the 5 liter bit is fine, tho, as is allowing OHC engines. Wouldn't bother me if they went to 4.4l / 265 cid). 231. Canadianfan posted: 10.08.2019 - 7:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @228 Coil binding. And according to Parker Kligerman even if they ban it his crew chief on the #96 can re-create it three different ways. 232. 1995-Subaru-WRX-Sti posted: 10.08.2019 - 9:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) "Coil binding. And according to Parker Kligerman even if they ban it his crew chief on the #96 can re-create it three different ways." Innovation is fine until the end product is ruined. Teams have a serious problem with short sightedness. Also I would suggest if you have Instagram too look up Austin Dillon, posted a short video of a Gen 7. Dare I say it is VERY interesting too look at. 233. possum posted: 10.08.2019 - 9:58 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @231 - what coil binding does is hold the car body down, so the splitter and side skirts seal the underside of the car and prevent air flow under it. Get rid of the splitter, put a limit on how big an air dam you can have, get rid of the side skirts, and then you can coil bind all you want and you'll just have a very evil handling car. Coil binding only works now because the increased downforce overcomes the huge understeer it creates (until the splitter actually hits the track, at which point no amount of downforce is going to help, the car will push like a pig until the splitter's off the track). @232 - no, the teams don't have a problem with short sightedness. It's not their job to make races competitive, it's their job to gain every advantage they can to win races. The short sightedness is on NASCAR's part, because it _is_ their job to make the races competive, something they've failed at for going on a quarter century now. 234. Daniel posted: 10.12.2019 - 4:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Larson was faster than anyone. 235. possum posted: 10.13.2019 - 2:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @221 - so, I got a chance to look at some pictures from the Richmond test. Unfortunately, none of the things you list appear on the test car, and it does not appear NASCAR has any intention of going down that path. The test car looks very very much like the current car, with a splitter, side skirts, and a big spoiler; the grill and body look basically unchanged. There is a diffuser at the rear, which suggests NASCAR is doubling down on the "high downforce" concept. There are some funny looking ducts on the hood (they look like the wheel-arch vents LMP cars use, but in the wrong place) which are probably also to increase downforce. The wheels are cast (rather than the standard stamped steel Cup cars use) and may be an inch larger (altho I'm not certain the car ran with those wheels, they may have been put on just for photos). All in all, very un-impressive. At least NASCAR still has two years to try and get it right. 236. racefangurl posted: 11.10.2019 - 6:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) 183, if Matt DiBenedetto gets the Wood Brothers ride it's only because Austin Cindric wasn't Cup ready or didn't bring enough sponsorship. And if it was to be the former, he'd probably have a 1 year deal just to give Austin C one more year in the minor leagues. Someone told me Austin Cindric's the most likely next 21 driver. Provided Austin ain't a junk* driver. Btw, the Wood Brothers don't take junk. *like Michael McDowell, running laps down when he drove a suspended Kyle Busch's car all those years ago in 2011 or some such driver. 237. Yeet posted: 11.10.2019 - 6:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @236 Matt was confirmed to the 21 weeks ago 238. Corey posted: 11.10.2019 - 7:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @236 Well someone told you wrong. Dibenedetto has already been announced as the driver of the 21 for 2020 and it was Paul Menard who told them he wanted Matt as his replacement. 239. dennyfan05 posted: 01.11.2020 - 8:26 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Previous Winners: Jimmie Johnson 83 Kyle Busch 55 Kevin Harvick 48 Denny Hamlin 35 Kurt Busch 31 Brad Keselowski 30 Martin Truex Jr 25 Joey Logano 23 Ryan Newman 18 Clint Bowyer 10 Chase Elliott 6 Kyle Larson 5 Joe Nemechek 4 Erik Jones 2 Ricky Stenhouse Jr 2 Aric Almirola 2 Austin Dillon 2 David Ragan 2 Ryan Blaney 2 Alex Bowman 1 Paul Menard 1 Chris Buescher 1 240. 34McDowellFan posted: 04.13.2020 - 12:16 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Larson's last win ...too soon? 241. Anonymous posted: 04.13.2020 - 12:29 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yes. 242. Rich posted: 12.06.2020 - 10:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Rick Allen, Jeff Burton, Steve Letarte and Dale Earnhardt Jr. were the commentators. 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