|| *Comments on the 2019 Bluegreen Vacations 500:* View the most recent comment <#287> | Post a comment <#post> 1. Canadianfan posted: 11.05.2019 - 1:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Ok Woah. In the podcast/radio thing I posted about under IMS approximately 7 minutes in Miller talks about NASCAR. He talks about NASCAR and ISC being sold. Cutting a bunch of races out of the schedule and when the TV contract is restructured the field will be down to about 25 cars. https://omny.fm/shows/the-ride-with-jmv/what-does-the-penske-corp-mean-to-ims 2. Anonymous posted: 11.05.2019 - 1:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bayley Currey back in the RWR 52 for the first time since his drug test failure earlier this year. 3. Anonymous posted: 11.05.2019 - 4:46 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) A lot of people are saying Kyle Busch and Kevin Harvick will win. What about Logano? Kyle said his biggest competition for this weekend is Joey Logano, not Kevin Harvick. Joey won the 2016 fall ISM race as well. I think Logano will win. 4. 52 posted: 11.05.2019 - 4:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) There it is, Joe and John Hunter Nemecheck in a race together. The first time since Dale and Jr. in 2001 that a father and son have raced together in the Cup series. Crazy that it's been so long since that last happened. 5. Corey posted: 11.05.2019 - 4:58 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Logano hasn't exactly proved he belongs though. He just got his first Top 5 in the playoffs and has had only 3 total since his last win 19 races ago. Honestly Ryan Blaney might be one to watch. He had a very good race here in the Spring. 6. Anthony2 posted: 11.05.2019 - 4:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) What about Bobby Hamilton & Bobby Hamilton, Jr? 7. Anthony2 posted: 11.05.2019 - 4:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @4 Incorrect 8. Corey posted: 11.05.2019 - 5:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @4 Uh, the last time it happened was last week with the Nemechecks. Before them it was the Hamiltons at Atlanta in 2005. 9. TeamDCRfan posted: 11.05.2019 - 5:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Unless something changes, I believe that this weekend will be the first time that father and son have run all 3 series together the same weekend. 10. William24ByronFan posted: 11.05.2019 - 8:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Bayley Currey is back in Rick Ware Racing's 52 Entry! 11. Anthony posted: 11.05.2019 - 9:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Clover is on the #42 12. zuel660 posted: 11.06.2019 - 7:05 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Miss the days of Western Cup races when the entry field was peppered with drivers from the Southwest Tour or Winston West series... 13. MasonShell24 posted: 11.06.2019 - 9:24 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) The fact sheet has an error. It says the last cup race at ISM was March 10, 2018, not 2019. 14. LJTolitoYT posted: 11.06.2019 - 9:53 am Rate this comment: (0) (3) I think Hamlin and Almirola are going to get payback at ISM, leaving Logano and Busch out and putting Larson and Elliott in the Final 4. 15. A.J. posted: 11.06.2019 - 9:55 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) That's a real nice fantasy, the only thing it lacks is any chance of actually happening (unfortunately). 16. ScottB posted: 11.06.2019 - 11:53 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) 14, Chase isn't going to the final four unless he wins this race. He's too far below the cutoff. 17. Chase9Fan posted: 11.07.2019 - 8:48 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) I hope the 9 team takes chances and at least has a shot at it at the end. Nothing to lose for Chase in this race. 18. Mile501 posted: 11.07.2019 - 9:32 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) -- Statistical Analysis of the Remaining Playoff Drivers at Phoenix -- 5 drivers are in a situation where they need to run well at Phoenix in order to advance to the next round. Chase Elliott is in a must-win situation. Here is a detailed look at these 6 drivers in recent races at Phoenix. Kyle Busch has surpassed Kevin Harvick as the new master of Phoenix. He has led the most laps in 4 of the last 5 races, and won the last 2 in a row. In the last 8 races at Phoenix, he only has 1 finish worse than 4th--and that "worst" finish was a 7th. Kyle has had a bit of a rough stretch recently, but if he stays out of trouble and performs like he normally does at Phoenix, he will no doubt have a spot in the final four. Joey Logano has a decent record at Phoenix, but he used to run better than he has recently. He won this race in 2016, but since then, he hasn't finished better than 10th, and he hasn't led in the last four races. Momentum is also not on Logano's side, as he only has 2 finishes better than 7th since July. With 3 challengers roughly 20 points behind him, Logano could be in trouble unless he steps it up this weekend. Denny Hamlin has a solid, but not outstanding, record over the last several years at Phoenix. He usually finishes in the top 10, but is rarely at the very front. In the last 5 races there, he led the most laps in the one race Kyle Busch didn't (fall 2017), but was involved in an incident with Chase Elliott (in retailiation for what had happened at Martinsville) and finished 35th. Otherwise, he hasn't led many laps at Phoenix. In the last 3 years, he has finished worse in the fall race than in the spring race, and he finished 5th in this year's spring race. He might need to do better than that this weekend if he wants to be in the final four at Homestead. He's been running well recently, but he has also shown over the years that he isn't the best under pressure, so it's hard to predict how he will do this weekend. Kyle Larson has 4 top 6 finishes in the last 6 races at Phoenix and led laps in the other two before encountering trouble, so Phoenix is a good track for him. Unfortunately, his win at Dover is his only top 5 finish in the playoffs so far, and he'll likely need a top 5 at Phoenix to have any hope of advancing to the final four at Homestead. Ryan Blaney has fewer starts at Phoenix than anyone else who is still in the playoffs, and many of his results have not been stellar. However, he finished a strong 3rd in the spring after leading nearly 1/3 of the race, and he also ran well last fall before dropping out with mechanical trouble. Out of the remaining 8 drivers, he is probably the one who is least expected to advance, but if he duplicates what he did in the spring, it is certainly possible. Blaney's playoffs have been up-and-down, with 5 top 8 finishes along with 3 poor results. Chase Elliott is in a must-win position and doesn't need to worry about points at all. He has never won at Phoenix, but he has been in contention for the win on more than one occasion, and has led laps in 3 of his last 5 races. 2 years ago, he finished 2nd to Kyle Busch. Last fall, he was running well again but got caught up in a late-race accident. So while he probably wouldn't be the favorite to win this weekend, he has shown that he has the potential to score the win and place himself in the final four at Homestead. Putting it all together, it seems most likely that Kyle Busch will join Martin Truex Jr. and Kevin Harvick. The final spot will likely be a tight battle between Hamlin, Larson, and Blaney (who are all nearly tied at this moment and who all have similar records at Phoenix), unless Logano performs significantly better than he has over the last few years at Phoenix. Of course, if Chase Elliott goes out and wins, then those four will probably all miss out. 19. A.J. posted: 11.07.2019 - 10:01 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Of course they aren't "deserving" based on their season-long performance (but we don't make the rules), but it would be great to see one of Larson, Blaney or Elliott make it just so there's one underdog worth rooting for among the other prohibitive favorites. The most likely outcomes, however, remain 3 Toyotas + Harvick racing for the championship at Miami or (possibly more likely) 2 Toyotas + Harvick + Logano. The "Impossible Dream" scenario: Truex, Harvick + 2 of the 3 major underdogs fight it out at Homestead as Busch, Hamlin & Logano somehow all fail to advance. 20. Mile501 posted: 11.07.2019 - 10:50 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Based on how he's been running and on his history at Phoenix, there is actually a pretty decent chance that Logano will fail to advance. He hasn't run well lately and he isn't all that great at Phoenix. He has a 20-point advantage, but with stage points, that can evaporate fairly quickly. 21. Chase9Fan posted: 11.07.2019 - 11:23 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) 19. I would love one of those guys, or even Hamlin in the final 4 mix. Tired of the same ol guys. 22. GiveMajeskiAChance posted: 11.07.2019 - 11:23 am Rate this comment: (0) (6) I honestly don't give a rat's ass who "deserves" what. I'd love to see Blaney or Elliott in the final four just to shake things up. 23. Mile501 posted: 11.07.2019 - 12:42 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) I believe comment #22 is a picture of the modern-day fan NASCAR has been trying to attract. 24. Mile501 posted: 11.07.2019 - 8:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Points battles to watch with 2 races to go: -- Best of the Rest -- 17. Daniel Suarez 18. Jimmie Johnson -17 -- Making the Top 20 -- 20. Chris Buescher 21. Matt DiBenedetto -29 22. Austin Dillon -30 23. Ricky Stenhouse Jr. -44 -- Making the Top 25 / ROTY -- 25. Daniel Hemric 26. Ryan Preece -5 27. Bubba Wallace -17 28. Michael McDowell -22 -- Lowest-Ranked to Start Every Race -- 29. Corey LaJoie +16 30. David Ragan 25. Corey posted: 11.07.2019 - 10:07 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Interesting tidbit that might factor this weekend. Joey Logano has the current active streak of going the longest without a pit road speeding penalty. It sits at 69 which dates back to the 2018 Daytona 500. Second longest is Chris Buescher at 65. Of the playoff drivers and their last speeding penalty? Kevin Harvick 10/21/18 Kansas Chase Elliott 5/26/19 Charlotte Kyle Larson 8/11/19 Michigan Kyle Busch 10/6/19 Dover Denny Hamlin 10/13/19 Talladega Martin Truex Jr 10/13/19 Talladega Ryan Blaney 10/13/19 Talladega Corey LaJoie has the most penalties with 9 Concerning the Playoff guys, its: Kyle Busch-6 Denny Hamlin-4 Martin Truex Jr-4 Ryan Blaney-3 Kyle Larson-1 or 2 (list didn't say) Chase Elliott-1 or 2 (list didn't say) 26. Bayne&BowmanFan posted: 11.08.2019 - 11:51 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Grandstands are reportedly sold out for Sunday, according to Jayski. 27. TTaylor944 posted: 11.08.2019 - 1:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @26 They usually are for this race. 28. Chase9Fan posted: 11.08.2019 - 9:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) 23. Nothing wrong with wanting to see someone different in the final 4. 29. Anonymous posted: 11.09.2019 - 12:04 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) 28 - Chase can do it. 30. Sector posted: 11.09.2019 - 6:05 am Rate this comment: (2) (0) #28 You are correct. There is nothing wrong with modern-day NASCAR fans wanting to see someone different winning races and in the Final Four. The problem is how they express themselves as egotistical idiot who complains to such extreme when they whine about the constant things week in and week out, making it very toxic. Stating their view is the only correct view and if they don't like something, their rage kicks in for no apparent reason. Maybe racing isn't truly for them. 31. Chase9Fan posted: 11.09.2019 - 7:16 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) He can, hopefully anyway. 32. zuel660 posted: 11.09.2019 - 7:17 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I will be very surprised if anyone outside the top 8 in points wins this race, or anyone but one of the final 4 in points wins at Homestead. 33. 1995-Subaru-WRX-Sti posted: 11.09.2019 - 1:55 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) "The problem is how they express themselves as egotistical idiot who complains to such extreme when they whine about the constant things week in and week out, making it very toxic. Stating their view is the only correct view and if they don't like something, their rage kicks in for no apparent reason. Maybe racing isn't truly for them." Thank you for saying what needed too be said. But you can truly throw the blanket over the entire fandum in most cases. 34. Anthony posted: 11.09.2019 - 2:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Playoff drivers qualify 1-7 and 10th 35. Maverick19 posted: 11.09.2019 - 2:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Busch wins the pole. His streak of having a pole every year since 2008 remains intact. 36. TheDewCrew posted: 11.09.2019 - 2:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Busch 1st Joey Logano 2nd Martin Truex Jr 3rd Denny Hamlin 4th Kyle Larson 5th Chase Elliott 6th Kevin Harvick 7th Ryan Blaney 10th Qualifying positions of the 8 playoffs drivers 37. Corey posted: 11.09.2019 - 6:54 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) The car chiefs for the 9, 15, 24, and 95 have all been ejected from ISM Raceway for the rest of the weekend. Each car needed three attempts at pre-race qualifying. They have also been docked 15 minutes of practice each for Homestead. 38. Mile501 posted: 11.09.2019 - 8:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Denny Hamlin's thoughts heading into Phoenix: "No matter what, I will not consider this year any sort of a failure. We, as Mark Martin would say, we just didn't score enough points. We had a great year, we won races, we led more laps than we have in a long time and more top fives than anybody in the series. It's been a really good year and I'm just not going to let the outcome of this weekend, or last weekend, decide whether it's a good season or not. I think you have to adjust that. One race, winner take all, or a three-race round ? anything can happen, and it did for us." 39. Sector posted: 11.09.2019 - 8:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yep, Denny also said he has nothing to prove and feels he doesn't need a championship to be success. He is perfectly okay with being this generation's Mark Martin if anything. The only difference is, Denny has never won a championship in any racing series, correct? Mark Martin has ASA & IROC titles. Mark also won an owner's title with Matt Kenseth dating back in 2003. I wouldn't say he's on par with Martin in that aspect. 40. MJM posted: 11.09.2019 - 8:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @36 It's actually Hamlin in 3rd and Truex in 4th. 41. MJM posted: 11.09.2019 - 8:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @39 I believe you are correct that Hamlin has not won a title in a single racing series in a season. As a Hamlin fan, I hope that changes (If not in 2019, then any season after that) 42. Sector posted: 11.09.2019 - 8:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #41 with the exception of Jimmie Johnson (would have been so much better had Carl Edwards won in 2016), this decade has had nothing but different champions from 2011-2018. Denny winning in 2019 would be awesome. It all depends on how this race goes. I hope Denny prevails. 43. Mile501 posted: 11.09.2019 - 9:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @39 - Should Hamlin never win a title, Hamlin vs. Martin will be an interesting comparison to make someday. Martin seems to be ahead of Hamlin in a lot of ways, but Hamlin will likely retire with more wins and perhaps with more laps led. 44. Yeet posted: 11.10.2019 - 12:05 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) The 53's window net came down during their qualifying run and had their lap time disallowed. Suprised it wasn't mention 45. Mile501 posted: 11.10.2019 - 7:23 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @44 - Thanks for mentioning that; I wondered what happened with the #53. It should be moved to 39th instead of 34th in the qualifying results on this page. 46. Altracing posted: 11.10.2019 - 1:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I know I probably sound like a broken record but I'm gonna go with Hamlin again for the win today 47. Maverick19 posted: 11.10.2019 - 1:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm thinking Hamlin as well. He may have only one win there, but he should probably have a couple more with how he's run. With the stakes on the line I'd say he's due. 48. PucciMan posted: 11.10.2019 - 1:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I know it seems unlikely that Chase and/or Larson will make it to the Final 4 but which of the 2 do you guys think has at least a shot of making it there? 49. TeamDCRfan posted: 11.10.2019 - 2:29 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I know it's an extreme stretch, but I'd like to see the 9 win, and somehow have Larson find a way to point himself in 50. Eric posted: 11.10.2019 - 2:29 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) A lot of people consider themselves badass, but they will never be Edward Schrank badass. Thank you for your service. 51. Wil posted: 11.10.2019 - 2:35 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Alright...that was the greatest command to start the engines I've ever heard. 52. TeamDCRfan posted: 11.10.2019 - 2:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I thought Mr. Schrank's performance of God Bless America was fantastic. I was a little critical yesterday, but today, I'd say he killed it. Thank you sir, and thanks as well to the man who did the invocation, as well as the young lady who sang the Anthem. 53. Altracing posted: 11.10.2019 - 2:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) We're green at Phoenix 54. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.10.2019 - 2:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Busch jumps well on the start and will lead lap 1. 55. Wil posted: 11.10.2019 - 2:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I'm incredibly annoyed by how much they're talking about points. 56. AJ73 posted: 11.10.2019 - 3:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @55 Same here. It's almost like they're not even talking about the actual race because they're focusing on the ridiculous playoffs. It was so much better with the old point system. 57. Anon posted: 11.10.2019 - 3:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @55 same. It is unbearable. 58. Chase9Fan posted: 11.10.2019 - 3:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 55. They matter for some. 59. Maverick19 posted: 11.10.2019 - 3:01 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Same. I really hate to complain but my god this Is the most dumbed down commentary I've heard in a while. 60. Chase9Fan posted: 11.10.2019 - 3:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) But I get the annoyance with the constant. 61. A.J. posted: 11.10.2019 - 3:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) They might as well talk about the points, because the race is likely to be boring as hell most if not all of the way. 62. TeamDCRfan posted: 11.10.2019 - 3:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I know I've been debated and will continue to be debated on this, but, excluding his 15 Convertable races, Richard Petty has 1184 starts in the top 3 series of NASCAR (all in Cup), and with taking the green flag today, Joe Nemechek beats that mark, with 68 Truck, 444 Xfinity, and 673 Cup starts, totaling in 1185. 63. Anonymous posted: 11.10.2019 - 3:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Yeah, with the old points system we would've crowned the champion last week. 64. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.10.2019 - 3:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Big Matt D fan here, listening to his radio he said that the car is handling like it did at Loudon earlier. Now reporting a vibration. 65. Altracing posted: 11.10.2019 - 3:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Caution for Stenhouse 66. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.10.2019 - 3:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Stenhouse blows a tire and is in the fence in Turn 4, caution. 67. Altracing posted: 11.10.2019 - 3:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Most of the leaders pit, Keselowski stays out and will be the new leader 68. Altracing posted: 11.10.2019 - 3:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Byron was the only other driver to stay out under caution 69. Altracing posted: 11.10.2019 - 3:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Suarez has been caught for speeding on pit road 70. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.10.2019 - 3:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Busch beating and banging with the 53 for some reason. Now he has some damage but all looked OK on the pit stop. 71. Altracing posted: 11.10.2019 - 3:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin to the lead 72. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.10.2019 - 3:23 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Keselowski leading after staying out, Byron stacks up the bottom and now Hamlin in front of Kyle Busch as is Elliott, Hamlin takes the lead by the end of the lap. 73. Altracing posted: 11.10.2019 - 3:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin wins stage 1 74. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.10.2019 - 3:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin wins stage 1, 7 of the 8 playoff drivers finish in the top 10. Only one outside is Truex, who's already locked in 75. Altracing posted: 11.10.2019 - 3:32 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Logano to the lead 76. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.10.2019 - 3:33 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Elliott to the lead on the restart but Logano immediately takes it away. 77. Altracing posted: 11.10.2019 - 3:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Elliott may have some power steering issues 78. Mile501 posted: 11.10.2019 - 3:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) @63 - How do you figure that? This season, a season-long point battle would have been really exciting to watch. 79. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.10.2019 - 3:42 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Radio from #95 Ryan Newman's "gonna race the heck out of you." No kidding there 95 team, he's already shown that all season long. 80. Wil posted: 11.10.2019 - 3:45 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I try not to be that guy, but man is this race brutal to watch. 81. Wil posted: 11.10.2019 - 3:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Rick Allen is having a really bad day. He's a stuttering stammering mess. 82. Mile501 posted: 11.10.2019 - 3:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The current running order is a perfect picture of how the same drivers run in about the same positions a lot of the time in modern-day NASCAR. As of lap 110, the top 8 drivers are the 8 remaining playoff drivers, and the top 16 drivers are the original 16 playoff drivers with just one exception. Suarez, Johnson, and Menard follow in 17th, 18th, and 19th, also matching their point standing positions. 83. Jason24 posted: 11.10.2019 - 3:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) So Logano's dad encouraged him to act like an a-hole? Explains alot.... 84. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.10.2019 - 3:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 83 what are you talking about? Who? Bubba? 85. Mile501 posted: 11.10.2019 - 3:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) In just his second Cup start, John Hunter Nemechek is once again outrunning his much more experienced teammates. Meanwhile, his dad continues to make laps in his 1185th NASCAR start. 86. Jason24 posted: 11.10.2019 - 3:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) @84 Dave Burns told a story that Logano's dad would reward him for getting put in the penalty box during hockey as a kid. Like I said that explains alot about the person Logano is. 87. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.10.2019 - 3:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Michael McDowell with a problem, he makes it to pit road. 88. Wil posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Haven't seen Jones run this poorly in months. I won't be complaining about luck today. 89. Wil posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:01 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) Why does Coke sponsor Austin Dillon? Here's a guy that doesn't make anyone want a Coke: Austin Dillon! 90. Mile501 posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Almost every driver is running within a few spots of his season-long point standing position. I long for the days when the field would regularly be much more mixed-up than this. 91. Altracing posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:03 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Logano wins stage 2 92. Mile501 posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:04 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @89 - I don't know, does Kyle Busch really make you want to buy M&Ms? Your comment made me chuckle, though. 93. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:04 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Elliott and Hamlin exchanging slide jobs, almost made contact when Joe Nemechek slowed up in front of them. Logano wins stage 2, all 8 playoff drivers in the top 10. 94. Mile501 posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:05 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) All 8 playoff drivers finish stage 2 in the top 8, meaning no one gains or loses much of anything in terms of stage points. 95. Jason24 posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:07 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @90 I read an article this week where David Ragan talked about the parity in NASCAR. He says back in 2006, when he made his debut, teams that were 20-25th in points could sneak up and run in the top 5 and lead laps every so often. Now that doesn't happen at all anymore. Makes me wonder if that has anything to do with his retirement. 96. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:08 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Logano holds the lead off pit road over Hamlin 97. Altracing posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kurt Busch has been caught for speeding on pit road 98. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:11 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 95, your post number is an example of a driver who regularly breaks the rule you speak of in your post. Also, another 95 radio highlight: "I absolutely can't stand this rules package on a short track." Exactly what fans have been saying all year. 99. Maverick19 posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Uh...what? 100. Jason24 posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @98. If you read anything I posted I was restating what Ragan said, so its really not my rule. 101. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:15 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Logano jumps away on the restart after Hamlin spins his tires, now locked up side by side with Elliott yet again. 102. Scott25 posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I hope we interrupt this broadcast of All Chase, All The Time TV with a win by Blaney, who they haven't even mentioned. 103. Altracing posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Elliott has crashed and his playoffs are over! 104. Scott25 posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:17 pm Rate this comment: (3) (0) Thank God, now we can actually enjoy the race 105. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:17 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Chase Elliott crashes! He's out of the playoffs after a tire down in Turn 1. 106. Jason24 posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Chase Elliott is done. Left rear Tire went down. 107. Eric posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) and the dream is over! 108. Onion posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Worry not guys, the coverage for this one incident and going through all its ChaMpIOnShIp IMpLicATioNs will be longer than FOX's Martinsville truck broadcast. 109. CowboysFan posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) YAY! Now the bandwagons can go away. 110. Anonymous posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:25 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) A Cowboys fan talking about bandwagons? Now isn't that funny 111. Youraverageracingfan posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:25 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 3 races. 3 problems. 112. Timothy_Eklund posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:25 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Now no hate on chase or anything, but the commentators were getting annoying. 113. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:26 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Logano couldn't quite get away as well on this restart, but still leads over Hamlin. 114. Altracing posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin goes back to the lead 115. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin to the lead lap 177 116. Anthony2 posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:28 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Chase Elliott's playoff run: Vegas: Top5 run in 4th Richmond: Mediocre 13th Roval: Crazy win Dover: Early engine failure (Last place) Talladega: Fought adversity to finish 8th Martinsville: Mechanical failure (Should've had a DNF IMO) Texas: Crash Phoenix: Crash (Last Place) What a great post season it's been for Elliott. 117. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Busch up to second and into the final transfer position as of now 118. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 116 you left out Elliott's second place at Kansas 119. Anthony2 posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:40 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Chase Elliott's playoff run: Vegas: Top5 run in 4th Richmond: Mediocre 13th Roval: Crazy win Dover: Early engine failure Talladega: Crazy race to finish top10 Kansas: 2nd & barely advanced Martinsville: Mechanical failure (Should've had a DNF IMO) Texas: Crash Phoenix: Crash There I fixed it. But still, it's been a wonderful year for Chase. 120. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Joey Logano beginning to struggle. He has dropped back to fifth. 121. Wil posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:41 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "Hamlin, Busch and Logano, 1-2-3 fighting for a shot at the championship!!" Um...Ryan Blaney is sitting there in 4th too? Why are the commentators not mentioning him at all, am I missing the memo? I can't remember being this bothered by the commentary in a race. 122. Chase9Fan posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Racing can be so cruel. 123. Altracing posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Logano has now fallen outside the top 10 124. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:50 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Logano drops outside the top 10 and is dropping further back in a hurry, 125. Anonymous posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 119 - Why should Martinsville be a DNF IYO? 126. Altracing posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:51 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Busch reporting a vibration 127. A.J. posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Not that I'm a Logano fan, but... Harvick vs. the JGR empire at Miami for the championship is about as blah as can be. 128. Altracing posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Logano has gone a lap down 129. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:55 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 95 has a tire down and has to hit pit road earlier than expected. Joe Nemechek is slow with a tire down as well. No caution for either. 130. Christian posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:56 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Cool, we're gonna have another year where the final four are all drivers that are complete buzzkills for me. f**k Steve O'Donnell. 131. Altracing posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Green flag pit stops starting now, could be the final stops of the day 132. Wil posted: 11.10.2019 - 4:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Logano has dropped anchor. 133. Wil posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:00 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) The race was sold out today. Unfortunately with the product on track, I highly doubt those fans will come back next year. 134. Timothy_Eklund posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @130 and it's his fault....... how? 135. Altracing posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Pit stops have cycled through, Hamlin leads Kyle Busch by 8.8 seconds 136. TTaylor944 posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @133 You know this is one of the better selling races every year, right? 137. David posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:05 pm Rate this comment: (1) (2) Yes, it's a "sellout" but remember this place holds less than 50,000 fans. NASCAR won't release attendance figures anymore, but -- sellout or not -- this is obviously one of the smallest crowds of any venue they visit. I hope they brought pillows today and are enjoying their naps. 138. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Corey LaJoie may have an issue, he is reportedly slow on track 139. Altracing posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Keselowski may have lost a cylinder 140. Ralphie posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:07 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Blaney really needs a caution here, but I'm sure NASCAR is very pleased with the top 4 as it stands, so there won't be any debris yellows like there would be if one was thought to be desirable. 141. Ralphie posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Keselowski could help both of his teammates by blowing an engine here and give them the only chance they now have to make a comeback and live another week. Assuming that would bring out a caution, of course. 142. Mbenoit posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin less than 50 laps from giving JGR its 18th Cup win of the season, tying Hendrick Motorsports' mark from 2007. This is, I believe, the modern-era record for most wins by a team in a season. 143. Tarheel posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 109, the "bandwagon fans" will not go away, nor will the real fans. We'll be here next week, pulling for a strong finish to the season. We'll also be here next year, and the year after, and the next, and the next..... because unlike your Cowboys, aka Americas favorite losers, Elliott will be a contender for race wins and championships for many years to come. 144. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Aric Almirola with a tire down 145. RaceFanX posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:18 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @142 And with three cars possibly in the title fight next week I'd give the House Gibbs a good shot at breaking that record if they get a shot at it. 146. RaceFanX posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:21 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) With 20 to go Hamlin has them covered by 7.6 seconds over Rowdy and 10 seconds over Blaney. Busch leads Logano by seven points for the last title spot. 147. TheDewCrew posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) @109 I'm kinda glad Chase is out, because it's allowed Denny to take the lead, and make the points situation interesting. Probably, one of the reasons why I might stop being a Chase fan, to avoid being called a bandwagon, from jumping from Dale to Chase. Probably, gonna become a Matty D fan, since I've met him in person, and he was very nice, polite, and humble 148. Edwards2020 posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:22 pm Rate this comment: (1) (1) I don't understood why NASCAR pick this track to close out next season. Boring race track. Always has been 149. Altracing posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Caution is out for John Hunter Nemechek hitting the wall 150. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Car in the fence Turn 1, caution is out, it's John Hunter Nemechek. 151. RaceFanX posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Caution with nine to go after John Hunter Nemechek gets the wall. 152. Altracing posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Erik Jones will get the free pass 153. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) David Ragan was slow before the caution came out 154. A.J. posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) OK Blaney, use the bumper like you've never used it before. Even if it doesn't get you a win, it'll make for a lot of fun. 155. RaceFanX posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This weekend saw Joe Nemechek and his son John Hunter Nemechek make history as the first father-son pair to run against each other in all three of NASCAR's three national series in the same weekend...however today hasn't gone well for them. Joe blew a tire and limped back to the pits earlier and now John Hunter got the outside wall. 156. Altracing posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin and Blaney took 2 tires everyone else took 4 tires 157. RaceFanX posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin is frustrated with the late yellow. Everyone pits under the caution with Hamlin maintaining the lead off as he and Blaney just take two tires...BUT everyone else takes four. 158. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:30 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin and Blaney take 2 tires under caution, NBC announcers really questioning the decision. Matty D and others considering the wave around. 159. RaceFanX posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Restart with four to go. 160. RaceFanX posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin, Busch, and Blaney go three-wide for the lead on the restart with Hamlin winning the battle. Rowdy is second but he's not giving up. 161. Altracing posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin wins at Phoenix 162. RaceFanX posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:34 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Hamlin wins the race and punches his ticket to Homestead. It's Busch, Truex, Hamlin, and Harvick going for the title next week. 163. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hamlin wins, Harvick, Busch, and Truex join him in the final 4. 164. Scott25 posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:34 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Good F1 style team strategy there. Good on Kyle taking one for the team there, he wouldn't have been mature enough to let that go in the past 165. Corey posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I think Kyle Busch may have held back there. 166. A.J. posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Most boring race of the season, until next week anyway. 167. GiveMajeskiAChance posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (4) Thanks to Kyle Busch for manipulating the outcome of this race...cheating assholes. 168. Christian posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:36 pm Rate this comment: (2) (2) What a shitty final four. Again. 169. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:36 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) There is a 75% chance that we will get a repeat champion next week, with the playoff format there has never been a repeat champion. 170. Maverick19 posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hey, I actually got a prediction right once @47 171. GiveMajeskiAChance posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:37 pm Rate this comment: (1) (3) I know, they're all assholes. At least Harvick doesn't drive for Gibbs so he's the most tolerable by default. 172. Anonymous posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:37 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) I have to say that Hamlin will fail inspection. His car was like 5 mph faster than the rest of the field. That is a disadvantage for the rest of the field. Kyle was closing him down but he had 4 fresh tires at the final restart. 173. Ralphie posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Dream on, @172. 174. GiveMajeskiAChance posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) @164 Which is why it sucked. NASCAR is not Formula 1 and should never be. Ideally it should be every man for himself, and Kyle's deliberafe nterference was disgraceful. This is what happens when you let the factories and corporate stooges get involved instead of real racing people. 175. Ralphie posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Just give up Majeski Fan. Kyle had nothing to do with the outcome, any Toyota could easily have won and it didn't matter whether it was the 11 or the 18. Kyle was smart - his "intelligence" was probably mandated over the radio - to make sure that all 3 of them advanced, no sense racing each other hard for the win. 176. GiveMajeskiAChance posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) @172 No doubt. You don't dominate like that without there being something fishy with the car, especially leading KB by 7 seconds. 177. GiveMajeskiAChance posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (2) Well, hopefully karma bites all three of the Gibbs guys next week and Harvick wins. 178. Corey posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:42 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @172 By wouldn't that go against the Toyota paying NASCAR theories? 179. Sector posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) So Joe Gibbs has a 75% shot at his fifth Cup title. Imagine the failure if Harvick prevails. 180. Maverick19 posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:44 pm Rate this comment: (1) (2) I'm happy with this final four because it's Hamlin instead of Logano. And...we get to see the usuals complaining. Take defeat like a man. 181. Mile501 posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @140 - Honestly, I doubt NASCAR is overly pleased with the final four. They want excitement and fan interest, and this group of drivers doesn't exactly produce that. @148 - For the same reason they chose Indy to end the regular season the last two years--a boring track at a significant point in the season is better than a boring track at a meaningless time of the season. 182. Jason24 posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:44 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @167, 174. The only thing disgraceful here is your attitude 183. Mile501 posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Chase Elliott's last 3 finishes: 36th, 32nd, 39th. That might set a record for the worst single round by a playoff driver to date, though I don't know for sure. 184. Mile501 posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:51 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Although he failed to advance, this was Logano's best finish (9th) at Phoenix in 3 years, and he led more laps than he has ever led (93) in a race at Phoenix before. 185. Fred posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:52 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Erik Jones 36th, 38th, 40th in the first round. 186. Jason24 posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:52 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) My goodness. I've seen plenty of things I didn't like in this sport, everyone has but why does only one person here have these mini-meltdowns every week? If the sport bothers you that much MajeskiFan, then don't watch. You accuse everyone of cheating, everyone is an asshole. 187. GiveMajeskiAChance posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:53 pm Rate this comment: (0) (7) I don't believe in coincidences. 3 Gibbs cars in the final four in the year JD dies...this has "scripted" written all over it. 188. William24ByronFan posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) No Chevrolets In The Championship 4 Again. 189. RaceFanX posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:55 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) NBC's cameras missed John Hunter Nemechek's late incident. A fan didn't though and caught it on film with a cell phone camera. NBC aired the fan's footage during its post-race coverage. 190. Dennyfan05 posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @183 Erik Jones's first round was worse 36th,38th and 40th. 191. Nucl3arWa4le posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Sponsor updates #2 - Miller Lite Holiday Knitwear #3 - American Ethanol "15 Million Miles on E15" #9 - NAPA Autocare Center #19 - Bass Pro Shops / Tracker ATV's & Boats #34 - Love's Travel Stops / Delo #37 - Maxwell House / Bush's / Louisiana Hot Sauce #47 - Kroger / No Yolks / Tyson 192. Jason24 posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:58 pm Rate this comment: (4) (0) @187 I mean its not like JGR haven't been a top team for years. This is the 15th anniversary of the Hendrick Plane crash, yet no cars in the final 4. You are a true idiot. 193. RaceFanX posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Kyle Larson didn't run his McDonald's colors in this race but Mickey D's still had a NASCAR connection this week. McDonald's celebrated the 40th anniversary of the famous Happy Meal during the week of this race with a special set of throwback toys recreating about a dozen of those it had given away in the past. One of the past toys brought back for the promotion was the 1993 Hot Wheels/Barbie Happy Meal version of the #27 McDonald's Ford Thunderbird that Hut Stricklin drove in NASCAR Cup action that year. 194. TTaylor944 posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @189 It's kind of embarrassing that there wasn't a single NBC camera that could catch it. The iPhone camera didn't catch much, so it's hard to tell if there was debris or not. The contact doesn't look like something to warrant a caution by itself, but that's typically how calling a caution works late in a race. 195. Mile501 posted: 11.10.2019 - 5:59 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @185 - True, although one of those was a disqualification. Has anyone experienced a worse playoff round without a DQ? 196. ClubberLang posted: 11.10.2019 - 6:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) Ya know, if you people don't like this stuff, just go away. Go watch footbaow. 197. Wil posted: 11.10.2019 - 6:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @183 Jones's round of 16 this year will likely never be beaten in terms of worst playoff round. 198. Corey posted: 11.10.2019 - 6:03 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @194 Not really. They having only so many cameras and focusing on a car laps down in the mid-20's is kind of low priority. 199. Fred posted: 11.10.2019 - 6:04 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Ryan Blaney 6th in points after a strong 3rd place showing, which would be his best ever points finish. 200. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.10.2019 - 6:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Non-playoff point standings are also going to come down to the wire next week, who will win the championship with the "legitimate" points format, Logano, Harvick, Busch, Truex, or Hamlin? Battle for 17th in points is down to 16 points between Suarez and Johnson. 201. Fred posted: 11.10.2019 - 6:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @200 Where can you find the non-playoff standings, or did you add them up yourself? 202. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.10.2019 - 6:15 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) 201 They are at the bottom of the race page 203. Corey posted: 11.10.2019 - 6:20 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @200 Martin Truex said they brought half a crew and an old car to Phoenix. If he was really fighting for a championship that wouldn't of happened. Likewise Joey Logano leads those standings despite only having 3 Top 5's in the last 20 races. Is he really deserving of a championship? 204. Wil posted: 11.10.2019 - 6:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) People complaining about Gibbs/Penske fail to acknowledge that they have the best drivers, and that matters. We've seen what happens when David Ragan types drive elite equipment--they still aren't good. Turns out driving ability is important! 205. Allen posted: 11.10.2019 - 6:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @203, Joey won't be in contention for a championship this season. 206. RyanM posted: 11.10.2019 - 6:22 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) The four drivers competing for the title are the four best drivers all year, the way it should be. Logano's comically good luck finally ran out and even though I'm bummed for my guy Chase he just wasn't consistent enough all year. Now let's get Truex his second title. #19in19 207. JSPorts posted: 11.10.2019 - 6:23 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Logano also led everyone in stage points by a lot. The top 4 drivers in points without stage points included are the 4 going to Homestead. Logano wouldn't even mathematically have a shot in that system. 208. Corey posted: 11.10.2019 - 6:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @203 Re-read my comment. I was referring to the non-playoff standings that he "leads". 209. Mile501 posted: 11.10.2019 - 6:29 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Unlike 2010, Denny Hamlin does not appear to be caving under the pressure this time around. That last restart may have been the pivotal moment that helps determine whether he'll win a championship in his career. This win will give him added confidence next week as well. 210. Fred posted: 11.10.2019 - 6:31 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) This year, someone below the cutline before an elimination race has made it on each round: Newman at Indy, Bowman and Bowyer at the Roval, Elliott at Kansas, and now Hamlin at Phoenix. 211. Mile501 posted: 11.10.2019 - 6:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Blaney (3rd) and Larson (4th) both made valiant efforts today, but it is hard to break into that elite group of 6 or 7 drivers who have been at the top over the last few years. 212. Anonymous posted: 11.10.2019 - 6:38 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Never really liked Hamlin. Something about his face. But he ran an awesome race today, and if he wins next week, he will have earned it and deserves the championship. I'll be happy for him. 213. Mile501 posted: 11.10.2019 - 6:46 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) A special weekend for the Nemechek family saw both father and son run the full race today, finishing 27th (John Hunter) and 34th (Joe). Despite crashing near the end of the race, John Hunter Nemechek still beat his teammates and has been the highest-finishing Front Row car in both of his Cup starts so far. 214. Yeet posted: 11.10.2019 - 6:46 pm Rate this comment: (5) (0) If I see one more person on social media say "rigged cuz of JD" I'm going to lose it. JD was a person too you know? Don't try to use tragedy as an excuse for Joe Gibbs running well. It's incredibly classless to think people are exploiting a great man for rigging it for "cheating Toyota". Grow up. 215. Wil posted: 11.10.2019 - 6:57 pm Rate this comment: (5) (0) @214 I agree, it's incredibly classless. Imagine telling Joe Gibbs to his face that the reason for his company's success this year is because Nascar's exploiting the memory of his recently deceased child. 216. Anthony2 posted: 11.10.2019 - 7:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Chase Elliott 2247 (11th) Ryan Blaney 2298 (8th) Brad Keselowski 2299 (7th) Clint Bowyer 2254 (10th) Aric Almirola 2219 (14th) Kyle Larson 2315 (6th) Joey Logano 2342 (5th) Ryan Newman 2189 (15th) Erik Jones 2152 (16th) Kurt Busch 2221 (13th) William Byron 2270 (9th) Alex Bowman 2229 (12th) Race for 5th in points. Since the points haven't updated as of now. 217. Anthony2 posted: 11.10.2019 - 7:12 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) And yes I put it out of order but I wanted to be quick on the math. 218. Chase9Fan posted: 11.10.2019 - 7:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Alright, at least I have Denny to pull for next week and Joey didn't make it which is great! 219. Wil posted: 11.10.2019 - 7:13 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Jones finishing above where he ran is so great to see. He wasn't as good as his teammates today but a decent finish still. MAN is RCR is out to lunch right now. What a horrible, horrible season. I feel sick for Daniel Hemric. 220. Canadianfan posted: 11.10.2019 - 7:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Tech is complete. Hamlin is the winner. Final four set. 2 and 53 had 1 loose lug nut. 221. Anthony posted: 11.10.2019 - 7:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Race for 5th is as follows Logano 2344 Larson 2321 (-23) Blaney 2303 (-41) Keselowski 2299 (-45) Byron 2270 (-74) Bowyer 2254 (-90) Elliott 2253 (-91) Bowman 2229 (-115) Kurt Busch 2221 (-123) Almirola 2219 (-125) Newman 2189 (-155) Jones 2157 (-187) 222. Chase9Fan posted: 11.10.2019 - 7:31 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) 219. They haven't been great for a while. Just shows you how good Matt Kenseth is to post a few solid finishes last year and Newman is to make playoffs. 223. Chase9Fan posted: 11.10.2019 - 7:31 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Scratch that, Kenseth drove for Roush. Sorry brain fart. 224. Chase9Fan posted: 11.10.2019 - 7:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) 221. Can't believe Chase has raced his way out of a top 10 finish as of right now. Sad deal. 225. Sector posted: 11.10.2019 - 7:33 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Since Joey Logano is eligible for stage points next week at the finale, it looks like he has a very good shot at scoring the most points this season. They really should make the finale races free of stage racing and keep it old school without the stage aspect. 226. Jason24 posted: 11.10.2019 - 7:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wonder what everyone thinks of Phoenix being the finale next season? The track is ok IMO, but the rules package needs serious work. 227. Chase9Fan posted: 11.10.2019 - 7:54 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) 225. I definitely vote to make the season finale stage free. 226. The race was boring. I know i will get throwback like "then don't watch", "You aren't a fan", but certain tracks limiting the acceleration these guys have is counter productive. 228. Jason24 posted: 11.10.2019 - 7:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Final Four Appearances: Harvick: 2014, 2015, 2017, 2018, 2019 Truex: 2015, 2017, 2018, 2019 Kyle Busch: 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019 Logano: 2014, 2016, 2018 Hamlin: 2014, 2019 Jeff Gordon: 2015 Johnson: 2016 Newman: 2014 Edwards: 2016 Keselowski: 2017 229. JSPorts posted: 11.10.2019 - 8:02 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @226 I believe ISM is a downgrade from Homestead, especially with the current package. 230. Corey posted: 11.10.2019 - 8:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I do wish NBC would back off on the playoff talk and just cover the race. I'm seeing Clint Bowyer finished 8th and I don't recall his name being mentioned once. I almost wish that the championship 4 have troubles early at Homestead just so we get a normal race. You know very well only those 4 cars will be shown on TV. 231. Texas posted: 11.10.2019 - 8:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I agree, it is hasn't been a very competitive or exciting track recently. Usually is just dominated by one driver. I know the networks have a complete masturbation session over the guys cutting the dogleg but, it isn't really a factor other than the restarts. 232. Mile501 posted: 11.10.2019 - 8:12 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Since NASCAR went to its current playoff format in 2017 (including stage racing and playoff points), 3 of the final 4 drivers have been the same each season (Kyle Busch, Martin Truex Jr., and Kevin Harvick), while the fourth spot has rotated: Brad Keselowski 2017 Joey Logano 2018 Denny Hamlin 2019 233. JSPorts posted: 11.10.2019 - 8:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Just shows how good those 3 have been since 2017. Truex has 19 wins, Busch has 17 & Harvick has 14 in that time frame. Next-closest is Brad Keselowski with 9. 234. Chase9Fan posted: 11.10.2019 - 8:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 230 I agree, but we all know the race winner will come from one of those 4. For ONCE it would be nice to see the champion actually not win but finish 5th or something, just ahead of the guys he is racing against. 235. Corey posted: 11.10.2019 - 8:39 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @234 There is a good chance one of those 4 will win. They are 21 for 35 this year. 236. Mile501 posted: 11.10.2019 - 8:40 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) "You say 'COT'--I think of something laying down on the side of the road to lay on and relax. Maybe that's what the fans will be doing when the Car of Tomorrow is racing." Scott Riggs said that in 2006 when asked for his thoughts about the Car of Tomorrow. Looking back, I think he was very accurate in his prediction of what racing would become once the Car of Tomorrow was implemented. Racing hasn't been the same since. I have recently been watching old races from 2001 from time to time, and the difference is astounding. 237. Wil posted: 11.10.2019 - 8:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) This race had a good ending thanks to a late caution, but was otherwise aggressively terrible. I remember at one point they showed DiBenedetto and Newman battling for 15th because it was literally the only action on the track. Very concerned about this track being the finale next year. 238. Mile501 posted: 11.10.2019 - 8:43 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @234 - In 2017 in Xfinity, and in both 2016 and 2017 in trucks, the champion actually did not win at Homestead. It hasn't happened in Cup, though, and I don't anticipate that this will be the year--although if anyone besides those 4 can win at Homestead, it's probably Kyle Larson. 239. Chase9Fan posted: 11.10.2019 - 8:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 235. Cory, yup unfortunately. 240. Chase9Fan posted: 11.10.2019 - 9:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 238. True enough, it is possible though. I don't think it's really a factor that the top 4 have been the best all year so them winning is likely. For it to happen every year since it's inception just means they aren't really raced hard by the other guys. You don't want to be the guy that took out a championship contender. 241. Anon posted: 11.10.2019 - 9:15 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) On an interesting (to me) note, using my season long scoring method, our championship 4 would be separated by just 63 points. Hamlin would be leading by 30 over Truex, 43 over Busch, and 63 over Harvick. Logano would be in 5th, 185 out. In my scoring method, each of the top 3 would "control their own destiny" at Homestead, while Harvick would need a little help from Hamlin (Hamlin could finish 4th in all stages and the race and Harvick would pass him by winning everything, bump that to 3rd and Denny still out points Harvick). Logano in 5th would be too far out where he couldn't catch Hamlin even if Denny finished last and Joey had a max points day. The reason I waste my time stating this is that I fear just because NASCAR lucked into getting it right this year, they are going to think it means their system is perfect and not change it. There are other, better scoring systems that could be used that doesn't throw away the majority of the field for a quarter of the season, and excitement wouldn't be manufactured. Sure, in most of the methods we'd be in the same place as we are now, but it would just feel more enjoyable to have gotten there naturally in my opinion. That said, at least I can say with confidence that whoever wins Homestead is a worthy champion, so I'll keep my system complaining to a minimum next week. 242. Evan posted: 11.10.2019 - 9:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Denny Hamlin wins as I expected. Now he just needs to not celebrate too much and stay focused on Homestead and try to win there, which is what it is going to take. The champion will likely be a Gibbs driver, but question is who will it be? My hope is that Denny Hamlin wins it, he has been great all year and really has matured and his crew chief Chris Gabehart has kept him level and kept him focused all year. The dust-up with Logano didn't shake him and he has kept his eyes on the prize. There's a lot at stake and the main competition will be from his own racing organization. 243. 1995-Subaru-WRX-Sti posted: 11.10.2019 - 9:41 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) PIR was fine without being changed. Now why they changed it is beyond me. A flat 3 turn 1 mile is a challenge (smaller version of Pocono). But once one track changes configuration everyone else has too follow suit. PIR will get better as it ages. "Looking back, I think he was very accurate in his prediction of what racing would become once the Car of Tomorrow was implemented. Racing hasn't been the same since." The racing wasn't that bad. But then again I didn't base a race on who wins, loses, what NASCAR screwed up or just by simply existing that pisses people off. "The track is ok IMO, but the rules package needs serious work." Blame the RTA and the teams. NASCAR wanted a different package for tracks like PIR but those involved parties wanted a "One size fits all" package. Their excuse was not wanting costs too go up. Which actually reads like "we don't want too dump endless money into R&D." Which is funny because they do that anyway. 244. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.10.2019 - 9:47 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) 236 I'd honestly like to see the COT back in NASCAR. COT racing at Phoenix had some good moments- Gordon and Bowyer's fight in 2012 being what comes to mind. The Gen 6 was good when it first debuted, but the incessant rule changes have made that thing into an absolute joke of a racing product. I am rewatching the 2010 fall Phoenix race, that race is so much better than today's. With the COT you could actually get up on someone's bumper and race. None of this "you get up 3 car lengths behind someone else and then they stall all your momentum" stuff that causes the current rules package to have problems like Ryan Newman being impossible to pass. There's also this thing called "comers and goers"- how long has it been since we've seen those in a NASCAR race on a non plate track? Of course the 2005 rules package was better than that... 245. Chase9Fan posted: 11.10.2019 - 9:58 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 241. Interesting. Are you in favor of playoffs? I would still rather not, but at the end of the day, it is generic generated excitement for guys who would normally be out of it with 10 to go, and that unfortunately, included Chase. I don't like 16 though, if you snuck into the points 16th, you aren't going far. 246. Sector posted: 11.10.2019 - 10:16 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Joey Logano wins his 11th stage win this race, tying Kyle Busch for most of 2019. There are two more stage wins up for grab next week, it'll be interesting to see which will advance in stage wins. About the Final Four winning next week, don't forget Joey Logano stepped it up and led the most laps at Homestead last year out of the blue. It isn't guaranteed that the Final Four will win, Denny Hamlin running second to Logano in the closing laps will settle for second if he's at a distance from the next competitor who happens to be in fourth. Don't think they'll sweep the top 4 spots next week automatically. 247. Wil posted: 11.10.2019 - 10:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 244 What did Bowyer and Gordon's fight have to do with the COT? 248. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.10.2019 - 10:36 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I was just saying it was what I remembered most about that era, besides the decent racing. 249. Sector posted: 11.10.2019 - 11:25 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Since 2017, we've had three one time champions and one driver seeking their first championship. In 2017 and 2018, that one driver seeking their first championship ended up winning their championship. That continues for 2019, when Denny Hamlin is the one seeking his first championship. I hope the trend continues. 250. Sector posted: 11.10.2019 - 11:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) This is Chase Elliott's third last place finish of 2019. The second races at Pocono and Dover were his other ones both in 38th. 251. Chase9Fan posted: 11.10.2019 - 11:33 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I am curious, board poll on how far your fandom goes back? I went to my first ever race at Rockingham in 1987. Davey Allison fan in those days turned Rusty Wallace in 1993 after Allison died. 252. BOBO83329521 posted: 11.10.2019 - 11:45 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) 251 Me? I've only been watching every race since 2013, watched some of 2010-2012. 253. Wil posted: 11.10.2019 - 11:47 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Chase has had a weird season. He's got the 3 wins, but also his lowest # of top 10's and points position in his Cup career. Even his wins were kind of atypical: a superspeedway and 2 road courses. 254. ScottB posted: 11.11.2019 - 12:13 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) 241/245 I also have a season-long personal scoring method and my top 4 at this point are Truex, Hamlin, Kyle Busch, and Harvick (in that order). I don't like the current elimination format (or playoffs in general), but at least this season it is narrowing down to a field that most would agree should be at the head of the class. 255. Maverick19 posted: 11.11.2019 - 12:26 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) First races I watched were Darlington 2009, Daytona July 2009, New Hampshire July 2009, and Atlanta September 2009. The Atlanta race was where I became a Harvick fan. I mostly followed Harvick, Edwards, and Gordon, but when both of them left after 2016 Harvick became my sole guy. 256. Canadianfan posted: 11.11.2019 - 2:15 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) @251 My late father Peter got me into watching racing at a very young age (He loved open wheel CART, F1 most of all but enjoyed NASCAR too). I can remember the 1992 Hooters 500 very well (I was 4 then). I watched the satellite feed at my grandparents (his parents) house. My dad was a huge Rusty Wallace fan. He pointed out Jeff's rainbow coloured car in that race and I had my guy for life. I'm hoping Byron can be the next guy for me. 257. ScottB posted: 11.11.2019 - 2:45 am Rate this comment: (3) (0) 251, I started watching NASCAR on ABC's Wide World of Sports in the mid-1960's at about age 5. My first experiences going to our local short tracks and drag races were also in that time frame, whenever I could beg my Dad or older brother to take me. I've been through phases when I was more interested or less interested as an adult, but never stopped following racing completely. 258. Mile501 posted: 11.11.2019 - 5:51 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @253 - Chase has just encounted so much trouble this year. 9 of his races this year have either been DNFs or finishes that were many laps down after something happened during the race. Unfortunately for him, 4 of those came in the last 6 races, when it matters most. 259. Mile501 posted: 11.11.2019 - 5:58 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @251 - I grew up during the '90s watching races on TV with my parents and occasionally going to a truck race at nearby Martinsville. They were Jeff Gordon fans and I followed suit, though later I began to find other drivers I liked too, such as Ricky Rudd and Mark Martin. During my college days (2003-2006), I was often glued to the TV over the weekend, as those were the days of nearly wall-to-wall NASCAR programming from Friday through Sunday. It was such an interesting and exciting time in the sport. Now, sadly, I have far less interest in watching racing. I watched one Darlington race a few years ago, and that's been the only race I have actually watched in years. I still enjoy following racing (often I'll casually follow a race through NASCAR.com's live leaderboard), and I also enjoy researching stats, but it's just not the same as it used to be. Sometimes I probably come off sounding pessimistic about NASCAR, but it's only because I long for the 1990s and 2000s when the sport was far more interesting and exciting. 260. Anon posted: 11.11.2019 - 7:11 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) @245 I feel like I gave the playoffs a fair shake, and even championed/defended them at the beginning instead of being immediately opposed to the idea. I don't think the manufactured drama is necessary, and in fact is a turnoff. I also don't like how it basically devalues the rest of the field, which hurts sponsorship appeal for all but the very top teams, in turn hurting the sport. For excitement from guys that were otherwise out of it, while I get that sentiment I personally don't agree. I'll use myself as an example of why. Back in the day one of my drivers was Ward Burton. Ward was never a championship threat with 7 races left in a season, but it made no difference to me (or the rest of his fans) and I'd still be excited to see him race each week. Fast forward to this year, where one of my favorite drivers is Kurt Busch. He's not a championship contender, and I find myself not caring at all how he does until 2020. Perhaps your mentality is different, and that's great if it is, but I would venture to guess that many Chase Elliott fans could care less if he finishes 4th or 40th at Homestead next week. Another example I can give that could hit home with the Elliott fans is in that fateful 2003 season that lead to all the system changes. Bill Elliott had long been eliminated from championship contention before the Rockingham race (2nd to last race of the season). He went out and won that race, which turned out to be the last win of his career. In this system, that team is already looking ahead to next season, and I'd pretty confidently say Bill doesn't win that race, and his fans miss out on that last big moment of his storied career. Pre-2003, fans of those drivers always has the potential of a win to look forward to, which Bill delivered at Rockingham. Now, drivers like that have 26-29 races to get one, then the fans and team check out and look ahead to next year. I don't think that is good for the sport. This week they literally talked about the points cut-off non stop all race, which turned me off to the point I tuned out for a large portion of the race in favor of football. I NEVER did that pre-2003. I consider myself a "hardcore" fan, so if I'm doing that, what are the "casual" fans doing? 261. Anon posted: 11.11.2019 - 7:11 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) @251 The first races I personally remember watching when I was a kid are in 1995, where I became a Jeff Gordon/Ward Burton fan. I then became a Kurt Busch fan after starting my first fantasy NASCAR game and being forced to pick him in 2002, and then really enjoying him when I was forced to pay attention. I've been fans of several other drivers at various levels over the years, but those have always been my "big 3." Based on my location attending races as a kid wasn't possible, so my first race in attendance was in 2003 in Chicago. I remember being in awe of how the Penske cars sounded so different from the rest of the field, and I predict one would either win or they'd get disqualified (Newman did won, albeit on fuel mileage). Since then I attend 1 race per year and run multiple year long fantasy NASCAR games to keep my casual fan friends interested in the sport, plus I'm a data nerd so I enjoy it anyway. I became a more "hardcore" fan following the lower series much closer in 2012 (I was a casual fan of Xfinity and Trucks pre 2012 and only cared when Cup drivers were in it). I expanded to ARCA in 2014 after Frank Kimmel got out of the way, as I had no interest in a series that was so heavily dominated by one guy so I never gave it a chance before then. Finally, I got really turned off on the K&N series after seeing a poor race in Phoenix in 2010, but got back into it in 2015 wanting to see what all the Todd Gilliland fuss was about. Going into 2020, I think I'm more excited about the new ARCA Menards series than I am Cup. 262. GoPM21 posted: 11.11.2019 - 7:11 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) @251 First race I remember watching is the '91 spring race at Bristol at the tender age of 6. Been watching pretty much ever since. BTW name change coming in the near future when I find a new driver to root for. 263. RyanM posted: 11.11.2019 - 7:11 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @253 the most important stat for me is that he's set a career high in laps led. This to me has been his best season, he's just had no consistency/luck whereas in the last two years he was able to rack up a ton of top tens without really contending for many wins. Hopefully next year it all starts to come together. 264. Mannoroth posted: 11.11.2019 - 7:11 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) This year's Final Four is probably the most deserving of all playoff's finales since 2014 - there's not a single driver that has won less than 4 races, that has scored less than 14 top 5s, that has scored less than 23 top 10s and that has led less than 900 laps in the entire season. Of course, I would root for Kyle to win his 2nd title, but this time, I believe that Denny Hamlin will finally get it done and will finally win his first Cup title. Plus, in that case, no one would become a 2-time champ, if that happened. 265. Evan posted: 11.11.2019 - 7:12 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) To 251, I started watching racing in 1992, my mother would turn on Busch races at our house and a white car that was #1 caught our eye. That car's driver was Jeff Gordon and I didn't really didn't know it at the time that this Gordon fellow was going to be something special and this Gordon fellow was about to make the biggest career move of his life jumping into that iconic #24. Then the first Cup race I watched flag-to-flag was the 1993 Daytona 500 and Jeff Gordon would be in position to win that one, but Dale Jarrett won his first race for Joe Gibbs when the team was in its infancy. I continued to follow Jeff Gordon's career and he was my guy but there were other notable personalities I pulled for, Davey Allison whose death shook me took to the core, and being a young fan I just remember thinking that he didn't need to die like that. Dale Earnhardt definitely has a special place in my memories, he was a hard charging competitor but he was a regular guy off the racetrack and later in the 2000's I really pulled for his son Dale Jr. as well. But racing in general has brought me a lot of joy. I have had to overcome a lot of issues in the 90's and watching racing and motorsports in general helped provide a lot of therapy in tough times. A notable instance of that has to be 2000 Cracker Barrell 500, I lost my uncle the previous day, I was very sad and distraught and we turned on the race and Dale was fighting Bobby Labonte for the lead and Dale beats Bobby Labonte to the line by an eyelash and my uncle was an Earnhardt fan, so Dale's win that day was a sign to press on. I could go on and on but as an adult, I've been through some phases where I was less interested but I have never stopped following racing but some of the changes have been over my head. Personally, I don't agree with the new rules and the stages and the playoffs. But I'm still waiting for that next driver that is that generational talent that will take that step up. 266. TheDewCrew posted: 11.11.2019 - 7:21 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) While, the leader 9 times out of 10 was able to pull away easily, it's not to say there wasn't some good racing back through the field. Denny and Chase were having some close racing, and door-to-door racing at the end of stage 2. Blaney and Busch, at the start of stage 3, as well. Also, was i the only one who thought of the 2013 Spring Phoenix race, where people were complaining about not being able to pass? 267. BradR. posted: 11.11.2019 - 8:40 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) @ 251, I started watching Nascar at 13 with the 1988 Daytona 500. 268. Anthony2 posted: 11.11.2019 - 8:41 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Chase Elliott's 2019 season, in a nutshell (Except it's a little bigger): First 14 Races 1 Win (7%) 6 Top5s (43%) 7 Top10s (50%) 2 Poles (14%) 402 Laps led (28.7 per race) 1 DNF (Daytona 500 crash) Average Start: 12.4 Average Finish: 9.2 Average Driver Rating: 97.9 Points: 3rd (511 points, 36.5 per race) Last 21 Races 2 Wins (10%) 5 Top5s (24%) 8 Top10s (38%) 2 Poles 199 Laps led (9.5 per race) 5 DNF's Average Start: 9.9 Average Finish: 19.1 Average Driver Rating: 88.8 Points: 11th (Scored 526 points, 25 per race) 269. Luke posted: 11.11.2019 - 9:05 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @183 "Chase Elliott's last 3 finishes: 36th, 32nd, 39th. That might set a record for the worst single round by a playoff driver to date, though I don't know for sure." I know Erik Jones' 2019 playoff run was mentioned, but one of those finishes was a result of disqualification. He had a top 5 finish before post-race inspection. Also, while not in the same round, in 2017 Kyle Larson had 4 consecutive DNF's in the playoffs: 39th at Kansas (engine), 37th at Martinsville (crash), 37th at Fort Worth (crash), and 40th at Phoenix (crash). 270. Corey posted: 11.11.2019 - 9:05 am Rate this comment: (2) (0) I think all three have series probably have the most deserving drivers going for the championship this year. I think the only true argument could be made would be replacing Matt Crafton with Grant Enfinger or Austin Hill. 271. Corey posted: 11.11.2019 - 9:09 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) @251 The first I know I saw was a tape delayed 1995 Bristol Night race. The first live one being the 1996 Daytona 500. I was only 9 and asked my mother if I could watch it. We did and I ended getting my parents to casually follow it too. My dad became a Terry Labonte fan, my mother pulled for Rusty Wallace while I took Jeff Gordon. Newspaper and television ads were how I found when and what channel the next race was on. When learned about the sport through the broadcasts. 272. JSPorts posted: 11.11.2019 - 10:28 am Rate this comment: (1) (1) I simulated the championship race on NASCAR Heat 4. Here were the results: 1st: Joey Logano 2nd: Denny Hamlin (champion) 3rd: Kevin Harvick (2nd in points) 4th: Kyle Busch (3rd in points) 5th: Chase Elliott 6th: Martin Truex Jr. (4th in points) 7th: Daniel Suarez 8th: Ryan Newman 9th: Kyle Larson 10th: Ross Chastain (I inserted Chastain in the #31 because I didn't think Reddick would run this race & the #15, a full-time team, isn't in the game.) 273. George_Costanza posted: 11.11.2019 - 9:56 pm Rate this comment: (2) (0) Just saw in Facebook that NBC and NBCSN will both be broadcasting the race, with NBC having the standard broadcast, and NBCSN having a Championship 4 focused broadcast. I know which one I'll be watching. I don't think I can take anymore of Rick Allen and Jeff Burton yapping about playoff implications and all the nonsense they spew out. 274. Corey posted: 11.11.2019 - 10:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @273 You'll be getting Leigh Diffey and Dale Jarrett for that broadcast. 275. Anon posted: 11.11.2019 - 10:32 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @273 That's amazing news! I'm more excited than I should be about it. 276. JSPorts posted: 11.11.2019 - 11:24 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Standings using 2003 (pre-playoff) format: 1st: Kyle Busch, 5128 2nd: Denny Hamlin, -74 3rd: Martin Truex, Jr., -147 4th: Kevin Harvick, -186 5th: Joey Logano, -295 6th: Brad Keselowski, -477 7th: Kurt Busch, -611 8th: Ryan Blaney, -660 9th: Kyle Larson, -740 10th: William Byron, -746 11th: Chase Elliott, -773 12th: Alex Bowman, -820 13th: Clint Bowyer, -888 14th: Ryan Newman, -906 15th: Aric Almirola, -917 16th: Erik Jones, -988 17th: Daniel Suarez, -1042 18th: Paul Menard, -1130 19th: Jimmie Johnson, -1161 20th: Matt DiBenedetto, -1266 21st: Chris Buescher, -1272 22nd: Austin Dillon, -1454 23rd: Ricky Stenhouse, Jr., -1508 24th: Ty Dillon, -1541 25th: Daniel Hemric, -1768 26th: Ryan Preece, -1815 27th: Bubba Wallace, -1891 28th: Michael McDowell, -1926 29th: Corey LaJoie, -2120 30th: David Ragan, -2175 31st: Matt Tifft, -2404 32nd: Ross Chastain, -2426 33rd: Landon Cassill, -2496 34th: Reed Sorenson, -3559 35th: Parker Kligerman, -3959 36th: B.J. McLeod, -3977 37th: Quin Houff, -4022 38th: J.J. Yeley, -4073 39th: Garrett Smithley, -4253 40th: Cody Ware, -4365 41st: Bayley Currey, -4455 42nd: Joey Gase, -4496 43rd: Josh Bilicki, -4564 44th: Brendan Gaughan, -4699 45th: Joe Nemechek, -4717 46th: Timmy Hill, -4743 47th: Austin Theriault, -4812 48th: Justin Haley, -4820 49th: Tyler Reddick, -4908 50th: John Hunter Nemechek, -4946 51st: Spencer Boyd, -4975 52nd: Jeb Burton, -5000 53rd: Kyle Weatherman, -5003 54th: Jamie McMurray, -5026 55th: Jeffrey Earnhardt, -5031 56th: Ryan Sieg, -5037 57th: Matt Crafton, -5040 58th: Andy Seuss, -5049 59th: Blake Jones, -5058 60th: D.J. Kennington, -5061 61st: Stanton Barrett, -5070 62nd: Gray Gaulding, -5073 63rd: Casey Mears, -5085 277. Sector posted: 11.12.2019 - 2:34 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) This is the last non-championship race at Phoenix/ISM Raceway in the fall before it becomes the season finale race of the 2020 season, replacing Homestead-Miami Speedway. 278. William24ByronFan posted: 11.12.2019 - 7:21 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) The 77 of Reed Sorenson had brake issues. 279. William24ByronFan posted: 11.12.2019 - 1:10 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The Money Team should be entered for the race at Homestead. 280. NewJack posted: 11.13.2019 - 1:32 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) For this round, Chase ended up 28th in points. Only finished ahead of Corey Lajoie of drivers who collected points and completed all 3 races. But that doesn't truly give an idea of how bad that round was for Chase... His average finish was 35.7, which was 44th best out of 45 that ran at least 1 race. Only Joey Gase (38.0 in 1 race) was worse in that time period. The other 7 drivers were in the Top 8 for that three race stretch, which might have resulted in the largest gap at the end of a round in this setup. Definitely a rough round for him. 281. Mile501 posted: 11.13.2019 - 2:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @280 - Crazy stats. But I believe there were 30 drivers who collected points and competed in all 3 races, so either Chase was 29th or he beat 2 drivers. Without stage points, it would look even worse, because Chase collected a lot of stage points at Phoenix before crashing, and he still ranks nearly last. Without stage points, he would have earned a grand total of 7 points during that round. 282. Mile501 posted: 11.13.2019 - 3:09 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) No track is overly similar to Homestead, but here is how the championship four have finished at the 3 other 1.5-mile tracks in the playoffs: Las Vegas: 1. Martin Truex Jr. 2. Kevin Harvick 15. Denny Hamlin 19. Kyle Busch Kansas: 1. Denny Hamlin 3. Kyle Busch 6. Martin Truex Jr. 9. Kevin Harvick Texas: 1. Kevin Harvick 6. Martin Truex Jr. 7. Kyle Busch 28. Denny Hamlin 283. Mile501 posted: 11.13.2019 - 3:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) ^ I meant to post that in the Homestead comments. Regarding Chase Elliott, among the 38 teams that have run the last 3 races, he ranks dead last both in average finish and in end-of-race points earned (excluding stage points). 284. Mile501 posted: 11.13.2019 - 3:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 38 teams started every race during the Round of 8. Bottom 10 in average finish during those 3 races: 27.67 - #53 28.67 - #00 28.67 - #15 28.67 - #48 29.33 - #51 30.33 - #32 32.67 - #27 33.33 - #52 34.67 - #77 35.67 - #9 <-- Chase Elliott Bottom 10 in points earned during those 3 races, without stage points: 29 points - #38 28 points - #53 25 points - #00 25 points - #15 23 points - #51 22 points - #32 13 points - #27 11 points - #52 8 points - #77 7 points - #9 <-- Chase Elliott (27 points if stage points were included) 285. NewJack posted: 11.13.2019 - 3:16 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) He beat 2 drivers, forgot to count Bubba Wallace since he had -1 in that stretch. Without the penalty, Chase would have been 29th. 286. racefangurl posted: 11.17.2019 - 6:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) 244, you mean the bread truck racecar? Btw, I think I'm outgrowing these boards or something. 287. Rich posted: 11.28.2020 - 9:50 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Rick Allen, Jeff Burton, Steve Letarte and Dale Earnhardt Jr. were the commentators. Marty Snider, Dave Burns, Kelli Stavast and Parker Kligerman were the pit road reporters. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Post a comment:* Your comment may not appear immediately - all comments must be approved by the moderator. Name: Comment: