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  1.   RaceFanX posted:
  08.11.2020 - 9:33 am
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The NASCAR Cup series stages one of its most unexpected races ever as
the series comes to the Daytona International Speedway to run its
legendary infield road course instead of the oval. This track, made
famous by the Rolex 24 Hours of Daytona that kicks off Speedweeks each
year, was added to the Cup series schedule mid-season as a one-off
replacement when the Covid-19 pandemic made it impossible for the series
to hold its annual race at Watkins Glen so the tour needed another road
course fast. As a kicker despite this being a new track the teams agreed
to run this race without practice or qualifying so the first lap many
drivers run here in real life will be the opening lap of the race.

The Cup series already had scheduled a race on the road course here
before this race. The plan was for this track to make its NASCAR debut
in 2021 with the non-championship Busch Clash being run on the road
course instead of the oval. Now the roval layout will see its first Cup
action in a points-paying event instead.


  2.   TeamDCRfan posted:
  08.11.2020 - 9:34 am
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Surprised to see the 62. Must be trying to beef up their owner points as
much as possible.


  3.   NascarLeadLapPoints posted:
  08.11.2020 - 9:53 am
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Track should be listed as Daytona (Road) as this is a new track in
NASCAR Code for tracks

Ryan Blaney won last inaugural race for cup back in 2018,

Kevin Harvick, Kyle Busch, Logano, Keselowski, and Johnson are going to
be lights out for the win. Kyle wants to keep Roval as the only track he
has not won at, with Watkins Glen back for 2021. Might be only race at
Daytona RC, could be another rockingham 2.0


  4.   RaceFanX posted:
  08.11.2020 - 9:57 am
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When this race was added to the schedule IMSA WeatherTech SportsCar
Champion Jordan Taylor expressed in a real interest in running it and
spoke with NASCAR and ARCA teams about a ride for this weekend with some
showing legitimate interest in bringing him in as ringer. Ultimately it
didn't come together and Taylor was left to joke on social media "If I
had $10 for every time I spoke to a NASCAR team about a road course
race, I'd probably have enough money to do a NASCAR road course race."


  5.   Corey posted:
  08.11.2020 - 10:13 am
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These are the 12 drivers who have run a race at the Daytona Road Course
at some point in their career. I've seen people list only 10 drivers,
but they don't include the 2006 IROC race that ran on it.

Brendan Gaughan (2011, 2016, 2018 Rolex 24s)
Kyle Busch (2020 Rolex 24? also competed in 2009 Paul Revere 250)
Michael McDowell (2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011 and 2012 Rolex 24s?
and 2005 and 2006 Paul Revere 250s)
Jimmie Johnson (2004, 2005, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011 Rolex 24s?
and 2007 Paul Revere 250)
James Davison (2014, 2015 and 2016 Rolex 24s)
Kurt Busch (2005 and 2008 Rolex 24s)
Matt Kenseth (2005 Rolex 24, 2006 IROC Race 3)
Timmy Hill (2012 Rolex 24)
Clint Bowyer (2013 Rolex 24)
Kevin Harvick (2002 Rolex 24)
Ryan Newman (IROC Race 3)
Martin Truex Jr. (IROC Race 3)

Brendan Gaughan is the only driver to have won a race on this course. In
2011 He co-drove a Porsche GT3 with Andy Lally, Spencer Pumpelly, Wolf
Henzler and Steven Bertheau to a class victory.


  6.   Corey posted:
  08.11.2020 - 10:16 am
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A couple of other notes. The 3.560, mile lap length is the longest for
the Premier series since they last ran the Daytona Beach and Road Course
in 1958. That one was 4 miles.

The 65 laps is also the fewest number of laps for a points paying Cup
race since the second 1971 Daytona 500 Qualifier race. That race was
only 50 laps long.

1971 was the last year the Premier gave full race points for the
qualifying races.


  7.   RandomFacts posted:
  08.11.2020 - 10:48 am
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The first few laps for these three races this seekend will be quite
interesting.


  8.   34McDowellFan posted:
  08.11.2020 - 11:47 am
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Brendan Gaughan's 1st Cup race on a non-Superspeedway since 2015 Pocono,
and first on a Road Course since 2004 Watkins Glen


  9.   OtherAnthony posted:
  08.11.2020 - 12:29 pm
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James Davison is supposed to be in the #51 again.


  10.   thog posted:
  08.11.2020 - 1:58 pm
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Kinda sucks all the fields are a bit short for this one; 39 for cup and
trucks and 38 for xfinity. I figured we'd have a few exclusions!


  11.   Anonymous posted:
  08.11.2020 - 1:58 pm
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The xfinity and truck series all have ringers. Cup never brings any road
course ringers anymore to the underfunded or struggling teams. Where are
guys like Lally, Pruett, Fellows, Simo, and Gonzalez Jr. Just to name
some. Make it more interesting!


  12.   William24ByronFan posted:
  08.11.2020 - 3:27 pm
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Kyle Busch ran here back in the Rolex 24.


  13.   William24ByronFan posted:
  08.11.2020 - 3:27 pm
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51 Sponsor was Jacob Construction


  14.   Dion posted:
  08.11.2020 - 7:55 pm
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First Cup Series road course race for Brendan Gaughan since Watkins Glen
Aug. 15, 2004.


  15.   UnderdogFan89 posted:
  08.11.2020 - 8:25 pm
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According to Bob Pockrass:

Any car that doesn't have the same driver -- even if that driver
competed in the previous race but in a different car -- is considered
having finished 41st and had the 41st fastest lap when it comes to the
metrics of forming the starting lineup.

This would hurt teams that change drivers frequently, though a lot of
them would be starting towards the back anyways (at least in cup).


  16.   Anthony posted:
  08.11.2020 - 10:07 pm
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Dark Horse this weekend will be the #21 with DiBenedetto


  17.   JSPorts posted:
  08.11.2020 - 10:31 pm
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This could be a great opportunity for DiBenedetto. He's a great road
racer (got his first top-5 at Sonoma last year). Plus, he's been running
well recently (results haven't necessarily shown it, but still 1 T5 / 4
T10 in the last 8 races), and this is a new track for everyone, so
unlike most places where a new driver/team combination might be a bit
behind, he's going to have a blank notebook along with them.


  18.   Anonymous posted:
  08.11.2020 - 11:58 pm
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It should be on a road course, not a paved track.


  19.   QFH posted:
  08.12.2020 - 10:51 am
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No surprise who's on the front row. 4 and 11


  20.   Corey posted:
  08.12.2020 - 11:55 am
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Despite being only 15% of the equation, the fastest lap already shows
how much of a difference it can make.

Last week Ryan Blaney placed 38th and Brad Keselowski was 39th
Keselowski is 2nd in standings and Blaney is 4th

From those two stats alone the metric gives them scores of

Blaney (38*.5)+(4*.35)=19+1.4=20.4
Keselowski (39*.5)+(2*.35)=19.5+.7=20.2

Now factor in the fastest lap, Keselowski had the 2nd fastest, Blaney
had the 15h.

Blaney 20.4+(15*.15)=20.4+2.25=22.65
Keselowski 20.2+(2*.15)=20.2+.3=20.5

Keselowski start 17th in the race and Blaney starts 24th and that
difference can be attributed to the fastest lap.


  21.   Sector posted:
  08.12.2020 - 11:55 am
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To add on to an already milestone 2020 season for Kevin Harvick; He wins
the brand new formula that has debuted for this race in qualifying that
once again rewards Pole Award for the first time since race #7 back in
late May at the Charlotte race. It's been 15 races since we had an
official qualifying rewards in which it rewards poles (every race since
has been set by drawings and inversions of the previous race).

He is also the inaugural pole winner of the Daytona Road Course track
for it's first ever race in the NASCAR Cup series. This is all coming
from a hot momentum of sweeping the doubleheader Michigan races the
previous week, the first driver to accomplish the feat in back to back
days at the same track in the series.


  22.   Foote posted:
  08.12.2020 - 11:56 am
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19 That's why I absolutely despise the new qualifying order formula. The
4 and 11 will likely start front row every week and the field will never
be mixed up. Kevin Harvick had the best idea that he shared in the post
race: a random draw of all the teams 1-36. That'd be most fair and
exciting.


  23.   Mile501 posted:
  08.12.2020 - 12:02 pm
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Most of the top 30 starters will start within 2 positions of where they
finished in the last race. Here are the exceptions:
Keselowski +22
Reddick +6
Jones +7
Preece -6
T.Dillon -5
Blaney +14
Stenhouse -6
Bowman +9
Nemechek -5
LaJoie -7
Suarez -5


  24.   QFH posted:
  08.12.2020 - 12:03 pm
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@22
But do we really want a qualifying order where QFH (Quinn Freaking
Houff) and Preece are the front row? That'd just be a recipe for
absolute disaster.


  25.   David posted:
  08.12.2020 - 12:07 pm
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Hardly. Meaning it would hardly be a guaranteed "absolute disaster".

And even if some occasional fireworks did result from backmarkers at the
front, Harvick's idea is still much better than what NASCAR is doing now.


  26.   Sector posted:
  08.12.2020 - 12:07 pm
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#22 Yeah, or they could just qualify like a normal Motorsports since
every other series are qualifying without a problem (Formula One,
IndyCar, SuperCars, SportsCars, Formula E; Basically it's just NASCAR
who aren't qualifying).


  27.   Ralphie posted:
  08.12.2020 - 12:11 pm
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@26 That's an even better idea, though I also like what Harvick
suggested. It's time for NASCAR to stop pussying out and get back to
normal, seeing as how there's zero reason not to.


  28.   Foote posted:
  08.12.2020 - 12:24 pm
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24 Why would that be a disaster? Houff if he drew pole would just take
the high line and run the wall in turn 1 to get the hell out of the way.


  29.   TTaylor944 posted:
  08.12.2020 - 12:24 pm
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Honestly, unless we're talking about open teams with a risk of a DNQ,
qualifying is the most pointless event of the weekend. Given what entry
lists typically look like these days, they might as well be scrapped
permanently.


  30.   UnderdogFan89 posted:
  08.12.2020 - 12:50 pm
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There's lots I can but won't say about the qualifying. All I will say is
a) this new method is better than the random draw and b) if you want
"normal" qualifying, then you are incredibly selfish.


  31.   Mile501 posted:
  08.12.2020 - 1:11 pm
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Though I doubt NASCAR will change their plan now, here's an idea: The
starting lineup could be set based on the number of green flag passes in
the most recent race.

Advantages:
- Slow cars like the Rick Ware teams would still be at the back because
they typically don't pass many cars
- Drivers who improved throughout the race would generally be rewarded
with good starting spots
- Drivers that led a lot wouldn't start at the front (since anyone who
led a lot of laps wouldn't make as many passes)
- It would mix things up without putting slow cars at the front. A
driver like Harvick or Hamlin would pass a lot of cars when they start
farther back, giving them a better starting spot next time.

Here's how the lineup for this race would look under this format:
(1st-10th) 47 6 8 37 3 41 42 10 19 88
(11th-20th) 32 22 37 43 20 13 95 1 24 48
(21st-30th) 9 11 14 12 34 18 21 38 2 4
(31st-40th) 96 15 00 77 27 51 53 66 62


  32.   Sector posted:
  08.12.2020 - 1:31 pm
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#30 selfish? Funny it's like everyone rather live in fear than live a
life. More power to you.

Anyway, I noticed it says ?Pole Speed: Drew for Pole.?

I know it isn't speed that determines but would it be better to have it
like this:

?Pole Formula: 1.15?
Or
?Pole Metric: 1.15?

That's the correct number for Harvick by the way.


  33.   Timothy_Eklund posted:
  08.12.2020 - 1:46 pm
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There are ways to run qualifying without exposing more people to covid.


  34.   RandomFacts posted:
  08.12.2020 - 2:08 pm
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Qualifying should remain in racing, I think it would be very foolish to
get rid of it forever.


  35.   Sector posted:
  08.12.2020 - 2:08 pm
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#33 then why bother race at all?


  36.   Canadianfan posted:
  08.12.2020 - 2:08 pm
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@33

Do these other ways require money because this is ultimately why they
are doing this. To save money.


  37.   UnderdogFan89 posted:
  08.12.2020 - 2:09 pm
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#32 I'm generally a pretty passive guy. But yes, calls for normal
qualifying are selfish. NASCAR made its reasoning perfectly clear: to
protect drivers, teams, officials, track personnel, and safety workers
(and fans when they are able to attend) by limiting at-track time, as
well as a way to limit the financial aspect for teams that are
struggling with sponsors (recall that at least two drivers in the lower
series have essentially lost their rides because of sponsors leaving,
and the #95 mentioned in their transcript that they are having a hard
time selling remaining races). Adding qualifying is essentially adding
time at track, cost, and wouldn't change THAT much with the weekend. By
advocating for qualifying, you are essentially giving a middle finger to
all those reasons, saying you value your entertainment over them. In my
eyes, that's the definition of selfish.

Let me be clear on one thing: Normal qualifying is the best way to
determine a starting lineup, and better than any way NASCAR can up with.
Period. End of story. I wholeheartedly agree. I also wholeheartedly
agree that the $800k house that's for sale down the street is better
than my townhouse that I rent. That doesn't mean I'm buying it anytime
soon. Better (or even best) isn't always an option. We have to deal with
what we've got.

Perhaps calling out people isn't the right way, so for that I'm sorry.
But what I don't understand are those who criticize MASCAR for trying to
put a show on for fans and keep a livelihood for all the teams while
still attempting to be as safe and cost effective as possible.

Thanks for listening to my rant. We shall agree to disagree I suppose.
Good day to you all.


  38.   UnderdogFan89 posted:
  08.12.2020 - 2:14 pm
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Lol at MASCAR. Typo alert!


  39.   Corey posted:
  08.12.2020 - 2:46 pm
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Here's the thing you have to keep in mind. While other series may have
practice and qualifying, their schedules have had even more upheaval
than NASCAR's has had.

By running all 36 races, NASCAR is atleast allowing the themselves and
the teams the opportunity to fulfill contract obligations.

Formula 1 was supposed to have had 22 races this year. 11 of those have
already been formally cancelled, with 2-4 more joining them at some
point. As of now, they only have 13 races on the calendar, all in
Europe. While that's a major drop in expense, it's also going to be a
major drop in income.


  40.   Canadianfan posted:
  08.12.2020 - 2:47 pm
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@37

I also wanted to add to your post that tires cost money this is one less
set that they have to buy. Tommy Joe Martins was mentioning earlier this
year that 25% of his total budget for the year is tires. Also although
yes gas is free on race day you have to pay for that the entire rest of
the time including qualifying that's just another savings. And of course
the main reason being no backup cars are needed except for doubleheaders.


  41.   Canadianfan posted:
  08.12.2020 - 3:16 pm
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I just had an epiphany. What if the networks don't want to broadcast
practicing and qualifying. What if they went to NASCAR and said hey
we're hurting and to save money we won't broadcasting anything other
than the race. You guys can go on and do all of that but it won't be
covered by us. That would explain why ARCA is still practicing since
they don't have any practice coverage anyways.

NASCAR then went to the teams and explained the situation and the
majority of teams said well it doesn't make sense for us to do that
because we won't get any extra viewing time for our sponsors and what
not so we just won't practice and qualify.

I have said on multiple occasions that the networks have a lot more pull
on the sport than anyone really understands especially the start times
which I know bother a lot of people.


  42.   dw posted:
  08.12.2020 - 3:47 pm
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Canadianfan, I believe Door Bumper Clear said something similar to that
a few weeks back. Fox doesn't want practice and doesn't want to cover
hours on hours of practice across the series but NBC does. They
literally invented TrackPass to charge the hardcore fans to watch
practice. Going to be interesting if there is any practices next season,
I would doubt it though especially through the first part of the season
with covid-19 still active and Fox's stance on showing practice anyways.


  43.   Sector posted:
  08.12.2020 - 4:31 pm
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The world as we knew pre-2020 is truly gone. Don't expect normality to
return. This is our lives now. We're never going to live the lives of
public entertainment and gatherings, or being able to shake hands and
taking a photo with your favorite driver, celebrities or idols. The idea
of "you only live once, YOLO and follow your dreams" goes out the door
and we're just stuck.

The government is setting themselves and its people up to fail.
Businesses are shutting down and being ran out without a money-making
process in place (like Bob Leavine). Causing struggles for many citizens
without enough money to make a living and to keep up with bills while
the government argues about providing the income, rather than granting
waiver of sort (not speaking for unemployment, but for those who still
worked as essential employers with cut hours).

I feel for the senior students who are denied an opportunity to play
sports in their last year in high school. Hell, even if you wanted to go
for a jogging on a hot, 90 degree weather down the street or at the
reservoir, you're due for a fine or ticket without a face covering for
the sole purpose of "it protects people" (which for anyone who can only
respond with that is a complete robot). So much for positive memories.

Say what you will about anything in life today (which is impacted and
related to anything we do in life today, even racing/NASCAR), we're all
living in fear and returning to normality is a fantasy. At least not in
our lifetime.

I like the no practice idea, and if this qualifying format is a thing of
the future then by all means, the question we should be asking ourselves
while we're watching racing (we didn't ask ourselves this before Bob
Leavine said his business was in a deep struggle, or that Hendrick
Motorsports was rumored to drop to a three-car team) is how much more of
a struggle are going on behind the scenes and waiting to come out that
they, too, are stepping down?

As I said, we're all setting ourselves up to fail.


  44.   UnderdogFan89 posted:
  08.12.2020 - 4:56 pm
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Sector, I may not agree with you, but I respect your opinion and won't
comment on it anymore, other than to apologize if you felt singled out
by my previous comment.

I would like to point out that NASCAR has always placed more importance
on practice than qualifying, as seen several times during rainy weekends
when qualifying has been cancelled to allow teams the chance to practice.


  45.   possum posted:
  08.12.2020 - 7:41 pm
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@37 - good comment, I agree with you 100%. Unfortunately there will
always be some who cannot see the big picture.


  46.   Ryan posted:
  08.12.2020 - 11:21 pm
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This new rule for the pole is about like the old rule where the
defending champion could choose his pit stall back during the 90's. I
actually think the way they were doing it is better than what they have
now. I don't like the idea of a random draw. "Strokers" could draw first
as someone mentioned and they could be ran over top of and the big one
could be on the first lap and take out several good cars. I believe
that's just too dangerous. I'm a fan of Harvick, but I disagree with the
random draw. There's just too big of a difference in speed compared to
say JGR and Penske to Quin Houff, Garrett Smithley and Timmy Hill.
They're already problems when the are getting lapped (ask Kyle Busch). I
don't want to see them up front at the start of the race. It could be
bad for everyone.


  47.   QFH posted:
  08.13.2020 - 2:56 am
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I think @46 better addressed the concern that I mentioned at @24 and
explained my reasoning quite well about why that situation would be a
disaster.


  48.   Corey posted:
  08.13.2020 - 2:56 am
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In the 2018 Pocono July race, many of the top teams failed their first
attempt at pre-race inspection and had their qualifying time removed.
This created a situation where a lot of the slower teams would be
starting ahead of the faster ones. On that race page, you'll notice that
four of those cars fell to the back on the pace laps and the reason
given was drivers choice.

If they did a full field random draw and a guy like Houff did get the
pole. It's likely that he would dropped to the back before the start.

I'm sure that's why NASCAR went with the 3 random draw groups.


  49.   Sector posted:
  08.13.2020 - 9:18 am
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#44 No worries, you did nothing wrong and your point was good as possum
said.

I have reasons for strongly expression the whole COVID-19 fiasco and I
know everyone here rather not discuss it, that's fine. To call it
selfish to want to live a life? Then what's the point? Anyway, moving on...

"We have to deal with what we've got."

That isn't necessarily always the case; Those who work hard to be
successful and is a "go-getter" overrules this.

As for #39, I didn't know why NASCAR didn't qualify while other major
series such as Formula One does, such as FOX not wanting anything other
than the race itself on broadcast (even then they could still qualify
without broadcast). That makes sense. In this case if the pole formula
allows Harvick to start up front more regularly with how fast he's been
every race than 8th or 10th then I have no complaint.


  50.   Corey posted:
  08.13.2020 - 9:59 am
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I'm not sold on the networks didn't want qualifying/practice theory. I
know they have the power when it comes to start times and some say on
the schedule, but to have that much influence over the structure of the
race weekends?

NBC also host exclusive rights to broadcast the Indycar series. They are
currently in Indy practicing and its probably being shown on Indycar
Pass. How can the network allow one series to run a full schedule of
practice and qualifying while telling the other one they can't. Yes, I
realize its the Indy 500, but even the other Indycar races got practice
and qualifying.


  51.   JSPorts posted:
  08.13.2020 - 1:21 pm
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No series history at this track, so here were the road course points
standings from 2019:

1st: Martin Truex, Jr., 130 points (1 win)
2nd: Denny Hamlin, -12
3rd: Chase Elliott, -14 (2 wins)
4th: Kevin Harvick, -15
5th: Brad Keselowski, -23
6th: Kyle Larson*, -24
7th: Ryan Blaney, -27
8th: Clint Bowyer, -31
9th: William Byron, -31
10th: Matt DiBenedetto, -40
11th: Alex Bowman, -41
12th: Aric Almirola, -43
13th: Jimmie Johnson, -45
14th: Joey Logano, -53
15th: Kyle Busch, -59
16th: Kurt Busch, -60
17th: Chris Buescher, -61
18th: Erik Jones, -61
19th: Ricky Stenhouse, Jr., -66
20th: Michael McDowell, -67
21st: Paul Menard*, -71
22nd: Ryan Newman, -83
23rd: Daniel Suarez, -83
24th: Ty Dillon, -91
25th: Bubba Wallace, -96
26th: Matt Tifft*, -96
27th: David Ragan*, -96
28th: Austin Dillon, -97
29th: Daniel Hemric*, -102
30th: Ryan Preece, -105
31st: Corey LaJoie, -112
32nd: Reed Sorenson, -126
33rd: J.J. Yeley, -129

* driver is not entered this weekend


  52.   Anonymous posted:
  08.13.2020 - 1:34 pm
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Rainy forecast for Sunday and some of Saturday (lower chance then Sunday).


  53.   PucciMan posted:
  08.13.2020 - 6:38 pm
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@52 I read there's rain and thunderstorms the whole weekend.


  54.   QFH posted:
  08.13.2020 - 6:47 pm
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At least it's a road course and rain tires are a thing.


  55.   possum posted:
  08.13.2020 - 7:17 pm
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@53 - it's Florida in the summertime, guys. The forecast has been 60%
chance of rain for the last 6 weeks, and it'll be 60% chance of rain for
the next 6 weeks. That's just the way it is. The good point is it's not
going to be day-long rain. If a storm happens, it'll blow thru and be
clear in an hour or so.


  56.   Corey posted:
  08.13.2020 - 8:51 pm
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Just to update Comment #6. With the addition of the second chicane after
Turn 4, NASCAR has listed the Lap length as 3.61 miles.


  57.   JFM01 posted:
  08.14.2020 - 7:42 am
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Did Gase get the boot from RWR?


  58.   TeamDCRfan posted:
  08.14.2020 - 10:11 am
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Haven't seen anything. Could be just a scenario of not enough space for
Gase.


  59.   Corey posted:
  08.14.2020 - 10:44 am
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@58 Gase had run every Cup race except Michigan-2. He may have run out
of funding or the team just didn't trust him on a new road course.


  60.   William24ByronFan posted:
  08.14.2020 - 3:47 pm
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J.J. Yeley is promoting NASCAR Heat 5 and XBOX on his #27 Ford for Rick
Ware Racing this weekend.


  61.   An_Aussie_Commentator posted:
  08.15.2020 - 4:15 am
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For fans of Australian Supercars, prepare for another totally unexpected
Top 3.


  62.   Sector posted:
  08.15.2020 - 8:50 am
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#61 In NASCAR? Lol


  63.   Sector posted:
  08.15.2020 - 9:28 am
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Question.

I know this site combines Daytona ovals and road courses as one; For
NASCAR's historical purposes is this an inaugural race similar to
Charlotte Motor Speedway Road Course or is it just considered another
race at Daytona for the record books?


  64.   Denny11fan posted:
  08.15.2020 - 9:46 am
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@63 it will count as the same track


  65.   Canadianfan posted:
  08.15.2020 - 10:09 am
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From Bob Pockrass:

Austin Dillon out for this weekend having tested positive for COVID-19.
Kaz Grala in No. 3 Cup car Sunday.


  66.   Dion posted:
  08.15.2020 - 10:10 am
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It is considered an inaugural event. It is classified as Daytona
International Speedway Road Course.

It should have its own page like the Charlotte ROVAL. It's up to the
website to make the decision in the end.


  67.   52 posted:
  08.15.2020 - 10:10 am
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Austin Dillon has tested positive for coronavirus so Kaz Grala will be
taking his place this weekend.


  68.   Dion posted:
  08.15.2020 - 10:10 am
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NASCAR Cup Series
Next Race: Go Bowling 235
The Place: Daytona International Speedway Road Course
The Date: Sunday, August 16
The Time: 3 p.m. ET
TV: NBC, 2:30 p.m. ET
Radio: MRN, SiriusXM NASCAR Radio
Distance: 234.65 miles (65 laps); Stage 1 (Ends on Lap 15), Stage 2
(Ends on Lap 30), Final Stage (Ends on Lap 65)


  69.   AwesomeSandwich posted:
  08.15.2020 - 10:10 am
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Dillon has COVID and will be replaced by Grala


  70.   JSPorts posted:
  08.15.2020 - 10:22 am
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Kaz Grala will be the first driver other than an Earnhardt or Childress
to start a Cup race in the #3 car since Ricky Rudd finished 37th in the
1983 Winston Western 500 at Riverside International Raceway.


  71.   TheDewCrew posted:
  08.15.2020 - 10:23 am
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When was the last time a driver made his Cup debut in the #3. It had to
be at least 40 years ago


  72.   Z posted:
  08.15.2020 - 10:52 am
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Wow, so I wake up to this. For Grala I hope this is a great opportunity
he performs on, and given the newness of the track & his experience
there & at RCs in general I'm optimistic for him tomorrow.


  73.   David posted:
  08.15.2020 - 10:59 am
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I see the page has been updated to show this race and the others this
weekend at a "new" track. Some old races in other series should be moved
over to the new track page too.


  74.   52 posted:
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Grala (21) and Reddick (24) combined are only about a month older than
Jimmie Johnson who is turning 45 in a month.


  75.   Z posted:
  08.15.2020 - 11:25 am
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@TheDewCrew, 1971-25: Pete Arnold made his 1st & only start in NASCAR
driving a #3 @Houston, finishing last (14th) after x58 laps.


  76.   Z posted:
  08.15.2020 - 11:56 am
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Adding to @75, The Others:

Al Unser 1968-03
Earl Brooks 1962-28
Mark Hurley 1961-43
Dick Miller 1961-22
Smokey Cook 1960-22
Al White 1956-27
Paul Goldsmith 1956-09
Ken Goudermoat 1955-28
Allan Clarke 1952-01
Stan Noble 1951-04
Rocky DiNatale 1951-01
Jimmy Ayers 1950-19
Al Wagoner 1949-06
Johnny Rodgers 1949-04


  77.   TennesseeMountainTop posted:
  08.15.2020 - 12:04 pm
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We will see, probably on Tuesday Austin Dillion will miraculously be
cleared again to race like the Jimmie Johnson situation at Indianapolis
earlier this year. Makes you question how valid the tests results truly are


  78.   possum posted:
  08.15.2020 - 12:04 pm
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@65 - that's unfortunate for Dillon. To NASCAR's credit, their COVID
protocols seem to have worked well up to this point, let's hope Dillon
is an isolated case and not the start of a St Louis Cardinals style
outbreak (for those who don't follow baseball, the Cards have to date
played only 5 games due to a sequence of players testing positive. Most
other teams have played 21.)


  79.   Canadianfan posted:
  08.15.2020 - 12:10 pm
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From Jeff Gluck:

From the 12 Questions interview a couple weeks ago with @austindillon3:
He said he initially asked @DaleJr to be his COVID-19 backup, but Dale
declined. Austin said he thought it would have been cool to see Dale in
the 3.


  80.   A.J. posted:
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@77

Why shouldn't Dillon be cleared to race once he tests negative?

He's young and otherwise healthy; it's not like he's been incarcerated
in a nursing home in New York or something.


  81.   JSPorts posted:
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Seems like Grala was essentially the 3rd choice. #1 was Dale Jr., but he
declined. #2 was A.J. Allmendinger (we know from previous interviews
that A.J. was Austin's backup in case he tested positive), but A.J. is
running Xfinity this weekend, and NASCAR has said a driver can only race
in 1 series this weekend since it's a new track. Enter Kaz Grala. He's
driven a road course already this year for RCR, finishing 4th at Road
America, but isn't entered in the 21 this week (sports car ace Earl
Bamber is making his NASCAR debut in that car.) This is an amazing
opportunity for him.

RCR this weekend: #3 Cup - Grala's Cup debut, #8 Cup - Reddick's Cup
road course debut, #21 Xfinity - Bamber's Xfinity debut. Lots of
learning will take place behind the wheels of those cars this weekend.


  82.   Jason24 posted:
  08.15.2020 - 12:44 pm
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77. I've been wondering that myself for months now.


  83.   Tarheel posted:
  08.15.2020 - 1:43 pm
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With 3.61 mile laps, it will be a travesty if the stage cautions eat up
more than two laps each, three tops, but I'm not holding my breath.


  84.   NascarLeadLapPoints posted:
  08.15.2020 - 2:00 pm
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As Sonoma and Watkins Glen are expected to return in 2021, this might be
only cup event at Daytona RC. Which means this might become Rockingham 2.0

Tracks Left for certain drivers/owners
Keselowski 7 (All 3 RC tracks)
Kurt Busch 9 (Rockingham too)
Harvick 3 (Rockingham)
Hamlin 8 (Both Charlotte's)
Busch 1
Truex Jr 10
Logano 9
Kenseth 5 (Never ran Roval)
Hendrick 1 (Kentucky)
SHR 1 (Roval)
Gibbs 2 (Roval and North Wilkesboro)
Penske - All Active Tracks but never won at Nashville/Texas World
Roush - 5 (Riverside)

Young guys like Blaney and Elliott who will win a lot more could be affected

Jeff Gordon holds the record at 1 track for drivers, might be looking
like permitted record soon

In my research no drivers has a win at every track they ran at in a
series on RR


  85.   Jimmie4life posted:
  08.15.2020 - 2:14 pm
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After seeing the ARCA race under the lights here, I wish that we could
one day see a night race here for the Cup Series at this track, because
that could be good marketing for non-NASCAR fans to see something that
they wouldn't expect: A Primetime night race at Daytona under the
lights, at the ROVAL(yes). It's a brilliant idea, and maybe, it could be
a good use of the glowing lights that they tested at Bristol.


  86.   QFH posted:
  08.15.2020 - 2:14 pm
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@84
I wouldn't expect this track to die out unless it puts on a really bad
performance. It's already signed on for the Clash next year, so it may
not be a points event, but will be a NASCAR race nonetheless.


  87.   TTaylor944 posted:
  08.15.2020 - 4:21 pm
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@85 If you were to ask most non-American sports car racing fans where
they rank the 24 Hours of Daytona in terms of its importance, they're
going to tell you it ranks much lower than we think it does. Most of
them view Daytona as just a big oval with an infield section added,
which isn't an unfair assessment. With that in mind, I don't think
racing stock cars on a roval, any roval for that matter, is going to
draw in a lot of new viewers.


  88.   possum posted:
  08.15.2020 - 4:45 pm
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@82 - if it's the PCR test (which in this case it probably is) there's
about a 2 to 5% chance of getting a false positive (says you're infected
when you're not) depending on the test manufacturer and about a 20%
chance of a false negative (says you're not infected when you really
are), which is why they look for two consecutive negative tests. If it's
the antibody test there's not much better than a 50% chance of getting
the right result with some of them.


  89.   Dion posted:
  08.16.2020 - 12:05 am
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Kaz Grala will be 2,949th driver to ever run a Cup race.


  90.   Sandy posted:
  08.16.2020 - 2:23 am
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First Cup race to not feature Austin Dillion since the 2013 Ford
Ecoboost 400


  91.   JSPorts posted:
  08.16.2020 - 10:19 am
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Consecutive starts after today's race:
(Jimmie Johnson & Ryan Newman would be here, 671)
1st: Kevin Harvick, 663
2nd: Clint Bowyer & Martin Truex, Jr., 527
4th: Joey Logano, 419
5th: Brad Keselowski, 387
(Austin Dillon would be here, 239)
6th: Denny Hamlin, 234
7th: Ricky Stenhouse, Jr., 207
8th: Kurt Busch, 200
9th: Kyle Busch, 192
10th: Ryan Blaney, 168
11th: Chris Buescher & Chase Elliott, 167
13th: Michael McDowell, 138
14th: Matt DiBenedetto 133
15th: Ty Dillon, 132
16th: Erik Jones, 131
17th: Aric Almirola, 113
18th: Alex Bowman, William Byron* & Bubba Wallace, 95
21st: Corey LaJoie, 60
22nd: Ryan Preece, 59
23rd: John Hunter Nemechek*, 26
24th: Timmy Hill, 24
25th: Christopher Bell*, Cole Custer, Quin Houff, Brennan Poole* & Tyler
Reddick, 23
30th: Daniel Suarez & J.J. Yeley, 22
32nd: Matt Kenseth & Ryan Newman, 19
34th: Jimmie Johnson, 7
35th: Garrett Smithley, 5
36th: James Davison, 4
37th: Stanton Barrett, Brendan Gaughan & Kaz Grala*, 1
* driver's consecutive starts streak includes all their career starts


  92.   Canadianfan posted:
  08.16.2020 - 11:33 am
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From Bob Pockrass:

Last night, Daytona track workers poured dirt/sand and packed the three
areas which are all adjacent to the rumble strips on the backstretch
chicane (where it appeared holes/divots developed). .... No alterations
to the course for today.


  93.   Canadianfan posted:
  08.16.2020 - 2:37 pm
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From Bob Pockrass:

Cup tech complete. LaJoie to the rear for 2x inspection failures, Hill
to the rear for unapproved adjustment and Grala (3) and Davison (77) for
driver changes.


  94.   Zach posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:10 pm
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I just noticed the cars are using the high downforce package. I thought
the cup cars were going to be running the low downforce, high horsepower
package on the road courses this year. What idiot changed their mind
about that?


  95.   ShinyMew151 posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:19 pm
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It's just Daytona that they went back on


  96.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:21 pm
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The first ever Daytona road course race for the cup series is green


  97.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:23 pm
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Hamlin leads the first lap


  98.   David posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:24 pm
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A very sedate start compared to other races here.


  99.   QFH posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:24 pm
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Hamlin jumps out in front in Turn 3 as Harvick falls back to third


  100.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:25 pm
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Kyle Busch to the lead


  101.   Archie posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:25 pm
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Harvick is struggling, and the Toyotathon is underway.


  102.   QFH posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:26 pm
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Busch to the lead.


  103.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:26 pm
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Hamlin back to the lead as Kyle may have flat spotted his left front tire


  104.   David posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:27 pm
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Kyle messed up his tires, may pit shortly.


  105.   QFH posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:27 pm
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Hamlin and Busch trade the lead again as Hamlin gets it back on lap 3.


  106.   David posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:28 pm
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Or he may not pit and might just let the tire blow. Please do.


  107.   QFH posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:29 pm
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Kyle really struggling with the lockup down into the new chicane. Two
laps in a row he's done it.


  108.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:30 pm
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Kyle Busch pits now for those flat spotted tires


  109.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:32 pm
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Left front tire was flat spotted for Kyle


  110.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:32 pm
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Keselowski and Reddick missed the final turn sos they had to come to a
stop and give up time


  111.   QFH posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:33 pm
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Kyle Busch has been in and out of the pits.


  112.   RaceFanX posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:33 pm
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Stanton Barrett was a late addition to the field for this one. Spire
initially scheduled Landon Cassill to race its #77 Chevrolet in this one
before making the change in driver a day before the race.

James Davison flew in to run this race after qualifying 27th yesterday
for next week's Indianapolis 500. The team had Reed Sorenson on standby
in case a situation arose where Davison couldn't make it here for the
race but ultimately his services weren't needed.


  113.   RaceFanX posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:34 pm
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Jimmie Johnson is up in the top-10 in his new white-liveried #48 Ally
Chevrolet. The team retired its black paint scheme before this race in
hopes some new colors will bring the team new luck.


  114.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:40 pm
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Truex to the lead


  115.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:41 pm
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Hamlin has a left front fender rub after contact with Truex


  116.   RaceFanX posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:41 pm
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Truex goes for it and passes Hamlin for the lead on lap 10. They make
contact and Hamlin now has a tire rub.


  117.   RaceFanX posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:41 pm
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Odd feature but here in the early laps you can see the haulers from the
truck series race earlier leaving while the Cup race goes on.


  118.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:41 pm
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Hamlin on pit road now to repair that damage


  119.   QFH posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:42 pm
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Truex to the lead after some contact with Hamlin causing a tire rub


  120.   RaceFanX posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:42 pm
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Hamlin has to pit for repairs about two laps before the pit cycle would
have started.


  121.   QFH posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:42 pm
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Hamlin to the pits.


  122.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:44 pm
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Some drivers now making green flag pit stops before the pits close


  123.   QFH posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:45 pm
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Harvick begins regular scheduled pit stops.


  124.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:47 pm
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Truex pits from the lead


  125.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:48 pm
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Elliott stays out and is the new leader


  126.   QFH posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:49 pm
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Elliott to the lead as the 19 comes to the pits.


  127.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:50 pm
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Bowman has a left rear tire down


  128.   RaceFanX posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:51 pm
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Bowman blows a tire on the last lap of the stage.


  129.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:51 pm
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Elliott wins stage 1


  130.   RaceFanX posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:52 pm
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Chase Elliott wins Stage 1 by about nine seconds in front of Joey Logano.


  131.   QFH posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:52 pm
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Tire down for Bowman in the back chicane, his teammate wins Stage 1 over
Logano and Johnson.


  132.   RaceFanX posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:56 pm
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Rutledge Wood interviews IndyCar racer Marco Andretti during the stage
break. Andretti won the pole for next week's Indy 500 earlier today.


  133.   Altracing posted:
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Everyone who didn't pit before the stage ended except for Logano comes
in to pit so Logano is the new leader


  134.   QFH posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:57 pm
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Logano STAYS OUT??? Why?


  135.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 3:59 pm
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Truex having trouble keeping his car on under caution while trying to
save fuel it looks like


  136.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:01 pm
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Hamlin back to the lead


  137.   QFH posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:02 pm
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Hamlin to the lead, Harvick to second


  138.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:10 pm
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Truex back to the lead


  139.   QFH posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:12 pm
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Truex back out front.


  140.   Tarheel posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:16 pm
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Elliott from 19th to 3rd since the restart.


  141.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:16 pm
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Kyle Busch had a bit of an off but gets back on course


  142.   QFH posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:18 pm
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Kyle Busch spins off track and loses 6 spots


  143.   Corey posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:19 pm
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Maybe they should stop picking Kyle Busch a favorite to win. He can't
handle it this year.


  144.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:19 pm
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Some drivers once again pitting before the pits close


  145.   QFH posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:23 pm
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Elliott and Harvick in to commence end-stage strategy


  146.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:23 pm
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Truex pits from the lead, Hamlin stays out and is the leader again


  147.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:24 pm
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Truex has been caught for speeding exiting pit road


  148.   QFH posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:25 pm
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Truex caught speeding
Hamlin is the leader


  149.   Corey posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:26 pm
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JGR seems to be doing the one thing you aren't supposed to do. Beat
themselves.


  150.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:26 pm
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Hamlin wins stage 2


  151.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:27 pm
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Race is now official in case we get bad weather later


  152.   QFH posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:28 pm
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Hamlin wins stage 2


  153.   Corey posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:30 pm
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@151 It's a road course. Unless they have lightning, they'll continue to
race in the rain.


  154.   A.J. posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:30 pm
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For a guy with a penalty, Truex sure had some nice track position at the
end of the stage.


  155.   Clint posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:30 pm
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I understand pit road was closed but why not let truex serve the
penalty? Just seems overly penalizing for the situation. He by far has
the best car itll be interesting to see if he can get back to the front.
If not this is chase's race to lose.


  156.   Zach posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:30 pm
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Kyle Busch can blame all of his struggles this season on not having
practice and just the fact that it's "2020" all he wants, but most of
everything that has been going wrong for him lately has been
self-inflicted. He has locked the brakes up three seperate times in this
race so far. It's his fault.


  157.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:30 pm
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Truex won't receive any stage points because he didn't serve his penalty
for speeding on pit road


  158.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:33 pm
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153 that's what I meant by bad weather


  159.   QFH posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:33 pm
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Bowyer leads off pit road but it appears rain is coming and the field
may be forced to move to the raintires.


  160.   RaceFanX posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:33 pm
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Rain is approaching the track, a typical Florida summer popup
thunderstorm out of nowhere. This could get fun...


  161.   Clint posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:35 pm
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I believe truex will get stage points since nascar had him stay out and
will be assessing the penalty on the restart. But nascar makes up the
rules as they go so who knows what theyll do lol.


  162.   OangeWaffle43 posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:35 pm
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One of my favorite things to watch is the brake dust coming off the
tires on the pit stops. Looks like Blaney is taking good care of his
brakes so far, we'll see if that pays off in the end


  163.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:35 pm
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Elliott is now the leader he didn't pit under caution


  164.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:36 pm
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Harvick spins but gets back going


  165.   A.J. posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:36 pm
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Truex does not get stage points according to nascar.com, and so Corey
LaJoie (!) now does. Sweet.


  166.   RaceFanX posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:37 pm
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HARVICK SPINS ON THE RESTART! The #4 ended up looking head on at the
field but no one hit after he spun back onto the track. Christopher Bell
hit and spun him out at the front of the field.


  167.   Tarheel posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:37 pm
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How nobody else hit Harvick or each other is pretty amazing.


  168.   QFH posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:37 pm
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Elliott to the lead on the restart as Harvick spins


  169.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:39 pm
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Truex has a tire rub after contact with Ty Dillon


  170.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:40 pm
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Harvick coming to pit road for new tires


  171.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:43 pm
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There has been a driver change, Yeley has been replaced by Bayley Currey


  172.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:43 pm
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Caution for lightning


  173.   Rich posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:44 pm
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Rick Allen, Dale Earnhardt Jr., Steve Letarte and Jeff Burton are the
commentators while covering the race on pit road will be Dave Burns,
Dillon Welch and Parker Kligerman.


  174.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:45 pm
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Red flag will be coming now for the lightning


  175.   QFH posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:45 pm
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Caution for rain and lightning 30 min. delay


  176.   RaceFanX posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:47 pm
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@171
J.J. Yeley overheated. Bayley Currey, who was here at Daytona for the
Xfinity race yesterday, got the call to take over because he is the only
driver left at Daytona who still had his helmet and firesuit at the ready.


  177.   TheDewCrew posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:47 pm
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JJ Yeley pulled onto pit road, just prior to the caution, got out, and
collapsed. The cool box was not working. He is currently being attended
to by medical officials, as we speak


  178.   Tarheel posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:48 pm
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Will they have the option of putting on lightening tires now?


  179.   Anthony2 posted:
  08.16.2020 - 4:50 pm
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Caution for Lightning McQueen? It can't be.


  180.   RaceFanX posted:
  08.16.2020 - 5:01 pm
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@179
If he would just change tires he could avoid causing all these yellows.


  181.   Thomas posted:
  08.16.2020 - 5:04 pm
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I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the drivers try to go get IVs during
the delay to help them rehydrate.


  182.   Vaxen posted:
  08.16.2020 - 5:10 pm
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Hope Yeley's okay ! It sucks to see that kind of thing happen to one of
the nicest guys in the sport


  183.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 5:14 pm
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Lightning hold has been lifted and the drivers have been called back to
their cars


  184.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 5:24 pm
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Red flag has been lifted


  185.   RaceFanX posted:
  08.16.2020 - 5:26 pm
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The storm clears up without any rain. We'll race in the dry.


  186.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 5:28 pm
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Davison having trouble getting his car restarted


  187.   QFH posted:
  08.16.2020 - 5:31 pm
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Almirola from 14th is the first of many to come to pit road under caution


  188.   QFH posted:
  08.16.2020 - 5:36 pm
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Elliott able to get away on the restart, McDowell dropping back from 3rd
to 5th.


  189.   QFH posted:
  08.16.2020 - 5:39 pm
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JHN spun @INTL horseshoe


  190.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 5:40 pm
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Harvick has spun again


  191.   QFH posted:
  08.16.2020 - 5:41 pm
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Kyle past brother Kurt for second


  192.   QFH posted:
  08.16.2020 - 5:42 pm
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Harvick is spun out and appears to have stalled, now he's going again,
no caution for that


  193.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 5:42 pm
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Keselowski misses the chicane and comes to a full stop


  194.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 5:43 pm
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Keselowski now on pit road for tires and fuel


  195.   QFH posted:
  08.16.2020 - 5:44 pm
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Kez missed the chicane


  196.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 5:45 pm
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Some green flag pit stops taking place now


  197.   QFH posted:
  08.16.2020 - 5:46 pm
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Kurt beginning to drop quickly


  198.   Vaxen posted:
  08.16.2020 - 5:47 pm
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Any updates on JJ Yeley?


  199.   Tarheel posted:
  08.16.2020 - 5:47 pm
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Elliott keeps creeping further ahead, if this race stays green he'll be
tough to beat. Truex made a mistake, and Hamlin's strategy has him
behind. Those three have the best cars.


  200.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 5:51 pm
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Leaders now making their green flag pit stops


  201.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 5:51 pm
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Kyle Busch is apparently done for the day


  202.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 5:52 pm
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Brake rotor issue for Kyle Busch has taken him out of the race


  203.   QFH posted:
  08.16.2020 - 5:53 pm
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Issues on the 18 they have a brake issue


  204.   RaceFanX posted:
  08.16.2020 - 5:55 pm
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Stuntman Stanton Barrett goes for the highlight reels with a ride
through the dirt but there's no damage and no reshoots needed. The #77
Chevy can continue onward.


  205.   QFH posted:
  08.16.2020 - 5:55 pm
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Truex has stayed out with Kaz Grala second.


  206.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 5:56 pm
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Kaz Grala has now led in his first career race


  207.   QFH posted:
  08.16.2020 - 5:56 pm
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Stanton Barrett's been off on both sides of that chicane.


  208.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 5:56 pm
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Blaney was caught for speeding on pit road


  209.   QFH posted:
  08.16.2020 - 5:57 pm
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Kaz Grala looks now to lead his first career Cup lap.


  210.   Canadianfan posted:
  08.16.2020 - 5:57 pm
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@198

Yeley was released from the infield care centre about 15 minutes ago.


  211.   RaceFanX posted:
  08.16.2020 - 5:58 pm
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Kaz Grala is leading in his first career Cup start. He hasn't pitted yet.


  212.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:01 pm
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Pit stops have cycled through, Elliott leads Hamlin by 11 seconds


  213.   QFH posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:03 pm
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Grala and Bowman come to the pits the lead moves back to Chase Elliott
over Hamlin and Jimmie.


  214.   RandomFacts posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:03 pm
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Unless a late caution comes out Elliott has it in the bag.


  215.   RaceFanX posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:04 pm
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Chase Elliott leads by 10 seconds with 11 laps to go. The NAPA #9 is on
cruise control this afternoon.


  216.   QFH posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:05 pm
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Kyle Busch has gotten his issues repaired and is back on track


  217.   Clint posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:08 pm
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Grala running 15th he has been phenomenal in his debut


  218.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:11 pm
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Bell spins but gets back going so no caution


  219.   Welldigger posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:11 pm
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This race is brutal to watch, just no excitement at all, nothing going on


  220.   GordonEvernham posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:11 pm
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Easily the best race of the season beside Talladega!! Edge of your seat
action all race long.


  221.   QFH posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:12 pm
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Bell spins out


  222.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:15 pm
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Kyle Busch crashes caution is out


  223.   RandomFacts posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:16 pm
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And of course, late caution.


  224.   RaceFanX posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:16 pm
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Kyle Busch blows a tire and crashes to bring out a caution with five
laps to go. Chase Elliott's frustration is likely audible.


  225.   RaceFanX posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:17 pm
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Rowdy blew out both rear tires in NASCAR Turn 2 and lost it onto the
backstretch. Super rare to see a double blowout, what caused this?


  226.   QFH posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:17 pm
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THAT'LL BE A CAUTION! Kyle Busch spins out entering the back straight
chicane.


  227.   A.J. posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:19 pm
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Kyle is going to great lengths to help his JGR teammate win this race.


  228.   Pacer posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:19 pm
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NBCSN is using some weird "fade to black" transitions during their
coverage. Odd to see that during sports.


  229.   NASCARfan05 posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:19 pm
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Busch needs to be parked for this, this is the 2nd time this year he
caused a caution to manipulate the race for Hamlin


  230.   RaceFanX posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:20 pm
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Top-6 stay out and Logano pits from seventh and many coming in behind
him. About 15 cars stayed out but there are 34 on the lead lap and tires
haven't been falling off much.


  231.   QFH posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:22 pm
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Logano is the first to pit from 7th as it appears that the top 10-15 all
stayed out


  232.   RaceFanX posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:24 pm
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Restart with three to go. It's Elliott, Hamlin, Johnson, Bowyer, and
Byron in the top-5.


  233.   RaceFanX posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:25 pm
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Elliott gets the jump on the restart. Thankfully it's clean.


  234.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:26 pm
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Lajoie spins but gets straight we stay green


  235.   QFH posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:26 pm
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Elliott out front on the restart, Johnson behind him but Hamlin able to
get into second place. Buescher moving up quite a few spots up to fourth
or fifth,


  236.   QFH posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:27 pm
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Spin for LaJoie


  237.   RandomFacts posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:30 pm
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Chase Elliott gets win #8.


  238.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:30 pm
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Chase Elliott wins the first ever Daytona road course race


  239.   52 posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:32 pm
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Kaz Grala finished 7th. Wat.


  240.   QFH posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:32 pm
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Elliott wins at Daytona as he has now won at both the ROVAL and the
Daytona road course which both debuted during his career. Grala got a
7th in his debut


  241.   Mile501 posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:33 pm
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Jimmie Johnson showed today that he's still got it, when equipment
doesn't matter as much. He ran solidly near the front all day long.
Among veterans who haven't been terribly impressive of late, Clint
Bowyer had a strong performance today as well.


  242.   RaceFanX posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:33 pm
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Chase Elliott has three wins so far this year; a 500K race at Charlotte,
an All-Star Race at Bristol, and now the inaugural NASCAR Cup race on
the Daytona road course. NONE of these races were on the schedule when
the season began.


  243.   Timothy_Eklund posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:33 pm
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Congrats to kaz!


  244.   Ralphie posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:33 pm
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Congrats to Chase on getting Chevy's last win of 2020.

(Except maybe Talladega or back here in a couple weeks.)


  245.   NASCARfan05 posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:34 pm
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Thank god Elliott kept the win, gibbs needs to be looked into about this
attempted manipulation


  246.   That's_Racin' posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:35 pm
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Hopefully this is the first and last time the Cup guys race on the
Daytona road course. So boring.


  247.   Mile501 posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:39 pm
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Hopefully we'll continue to see a greater variety of tracks in the years
to come. In an era when cars are ultra-reliable and relatively easy to
drive, new tracks at least give the drivers a new challenge.


  248.   GordonEvernham posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:39 pm
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I highly doubt Kyle Busch spun on purpose to help Hamlin win. We all
know that Kyle Busch only cares about himself on the track, he hates
losing and he REALLY hates losing and Hamlin win.


  249.   QFH posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:40 pm
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Oh, and Michael McDowell got another top 10 for FRM.


  250.   A.J. posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:41 pm
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Amen, @247. Tracks other than the usual ones seem to level the playing
field as well, leading to unexpected (good) things happening.

For example, Kaz Grala doesn't get a top 10 in his Cup debut today if
this was some boring 1.5 mile cookie cutter.


  251.   possum posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:41 pm
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@225 - yeah, that was unique. Given the earlier brake issue, I'm going
to guess a rotor came apart and the debris got both tires. Altho that in
itself would be really weird - rotor failures aren't all that uncommon,
but I don't know I've ever seen a rear rotor fail.


  252.   Chase9Fan posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:42 pm
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Wasn't really an high and exciting race but I'll take it. 9 tam and this
fan needed that!

Way to go Chase. Current King of the road courses.


  253.   NASCARfan05 posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:42 pm
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248, clearly team orders, he doesn't have to want hamlin to win, but he
has to cause a caution if Gibbs says to


  254.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:42 pm
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the last guy to win 3 road course
races in a row was Tony Stewart 2004-05


  255.   A.J. posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:43 pm
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@253 Now that the "itchy arm" code has been deciphered, I wonder what
the new signal is?


  256.   52 posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:43 pm
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What happened to Wallace at the end of the race? He was running 8th on
the last lap and finished 25th and no one said anything as to why?


  257.   Tarheel posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:43 pm
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244, I think when they go back to certain tracks Chase will be a
contender. Vegas, Darlington, Bristol, maybe even next weekend at Dover,
Martinsville and Phoenix to end the season. I'd rather see him strong
everywhere like Hamlin and Harvick, but if he can avoid bad luck I think
the schedule is favorable for a deep playoff run.


  258.   Chase9Fan posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:44 pm
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There were plenty of passing spots on this track, but guys today really
seemed like they just wanted to run it and get it over with.


  259.   RandomFacts posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:45 pm
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Kyle Busch blew his rear tire and spun, how exactly could he have done
that on purpose?

Did he have a button in his car to pop his tire?

Please stop with that nonsense.


  260.   Tarheel posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:46 pm
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246, at least this format puts more emphasis on the driver as opposed to
normal Daytona crapshoots.


  261.   Mile501 posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:47 pm
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Here's how the 6 drivers competing for the last 3 playoff spots have
fared over the last couple of months:

8 races ago:
Johnson +18
Bowyer +15
DiBenedetto +12
Byron -12
Jones -43
Reddick -69

4 races ago:
Bowyer +42
DiBenedetto +35
Byron +10
Reddick -10
Jones -12
Johnson -18

Current:
Bowyer +66
DiBenedetto +44
Byron +25
Johnson -25
Jones -35
Reddick -57

Part of me hopes Johnson can make it in his final season. Another part
hopes he misses it, because he might be more likely to get one final win
if there's no playoff-related pressure.


  262.   Chase9Fan posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:48 pm
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256. He was on old tires, I just assume guys with fresher tires and
better cars just zipped on by.


  263.   Archie posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:52 pm
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@261

You might consider adding Kyle Busch to the list of bubble drivers, LOL.

I know it's fun to think of him missing the playoffs but he's still +75
with 3 races to go even after his 2 recent glorious disasters, so we may
as well count on him being there.

Tony Stewart, via a road course win, sneaked into the playoffs in his
final season and I was rooting for JJ to do the same today.


  264.   That's_Racin' posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:57 pm
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@260 Agreed, but if they're gonna do road courses, then do road courses.
Go to Road America, Mid-Ohio, Road Atlanta, COTA, VIR, or Portland and
stop the dumb Roval crap.


  265.   Canadianfan posted:
  08.16.2020 - 6:58 pm
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@256

Bubba was hit and spun by Bowman.


  266.   NewJack posted:
  08.16.2020 - 7:00 pm
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Hate when xFinity ringers come in and take Top 10s from the likes of
Eric Jones.. ;)

In all seriousness, great run for Kaz. Top 10 in his debut race is
pretty slick. Hopefully this gives him more xFinity opportunities this
year.

Good run for Buescher as well, been a while since he's been in the Top
5. Also at Daytona!

Michael McDowell with the solid Top 10 too. After being considered the
weakest link due to JHN's good start, he's having by far his best season
in Cup.

Ryan Preece got points in both stages? After the start they had, he'll
take whatever he can I bet.


  267.   Anon posted:
  08.16.2020 - 7:04 pm
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It won't be announced until Tuesday, but NASCAR has docked Alex Bowman
100 points and suspended him from the first Dover race next weekend.

Justin Allgaier is expected to be the replacement for Bowman in the #88,
though Ross Chastain is also being considered.


  268.   Chase9Fan posted:
  08.16.2020 - 7:05 pm
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NBC really sucks. No post race at all.


  269.   Corey posted:
  08.16.2020 - 7:08 pm
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@268 They had a post race. We saw it during the red flag.


  270.   Sector posted:
  08.16.2020 - 7:10 pm
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Kyle Busch failed to finish in each of the two races at the Charlotte
ROVAL races in 2018 and 2019. Now, for the third straight "ROVAL" race,
he DNF'd again.

Martin Truex, Jr continues his streak of third place finishes; This is
his fifth in a row dating back to Kansas.

Kaz Grala substituted Austin Dillon (who was tested positive for
COVID-19) for this race, led a few laps and finished in the Top 10 in
his very first Cup start ever.

Chase Elliott wins for the second straight ROVAL races in a row, winning
the 2019 Charlotte ROVAL race as well. Even further back on road
courses, he won the 2019 Watkins Glen race as well for 3 in a row.

Kevin Harvick's streak of 9 straight Top 5 entering this race ends with
a 17th place finish, coming off of two wins in a row last weekend at two
Michigan races.

Furthermore, before this weekend I had a bet that Chase Elliott would
win the inaugural race here. It's only fitting that out of all drivers
he'd be the one to accomplish it (since Kyle Busch at Kentucky, Kevin
Harvick at Chicago and Ryan Blaney at the Charlotte ROVAL all have an
inaugural win under their belt). Congrats to Elliott!

What's also ironic is that Chase Elliott has never finished in the Top
10 in a points paying race at the oval version of Daytona in 9 starts.
All he needed was a race in the infield at Daytona to score a Top 10,
which ended up being a win. In two weeks we head back to Daytona after
the Dover double header weekend, let's see if this victory breaks that
curse at the oval version.


  271.   RandomFacts posted:
  08.16.2020 - 7:13 pm
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Where did you get this information about Alex Bowman being suspended?


  272.   52 posted:
  08.16.2020 - 7:14 pm
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@267 For spinning Bubba?? Has NASCAR lost their minds??


  273.   David posted:
  08.16.2020 - 7:16 pm
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It's obviously a joke.

If he had said 20 points I'd have believed it.


  274.   RyanM posted:
  08.16.2020 - 7:17 pm
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Well those last few laps probably took about ten years off my lifespan,
but hey, if sports weren't nail biting, it would be no fun.

Was cautiously optimistic that Chase and Hendrick's struggles the last
two months were exaggerated due to not being any "drivers' tracks" in
that part of the schedule, sometimes optimism pays off. Chase is just on
another level on these road courses.


  275.   Sector posted:
  08.16.2020 - 7:17 pm
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#265 Didn't Wallace and Bowman have some sort of altercation at the last
ROVAL race at Charlotte in 2019 also?


  276.   RyanM posted:
  08.16.2020 - 7:19 pm
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Also wanted to add what a great run by Grala, might've just given
himself a future cup career with that today.


  277.   QFH posted:
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Looking at who said @267... it's no surprise. It's not true. It's the
same guy that said MJ was buying RPM and putting BRANDON JONES in the
second RPM car lol.


  278.   Altracing posted:
  08.16.2020 - 7:22 pm
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Kaz Grala becomes the first driver to score a top ten in their debut
race since Carl Edwards at Michigan in 2004


  279.   Sector posted:
  08.16.2020 - 7:32 pm
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So poles are still not being rewarded?


  280.   Anonymous posted:
  08.16.2020 - 7:36 pm
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Sponsor Update:

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Source:
https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/tyler-reddick-driver-of-the-cat-app-chevrolet-races-brendan-news-photo/1266673819


  281.   Allen posted:
  08.16.2020 - 7:36 pm
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270, this is not a Roval.


  282.   Corey posted:
  08.16.2020 - 7:41 pm
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@279 It appears so. I also think they shouldn't be awarded with this
line up format since season owners point are included in the formula.


  283.   Canadianfan posted:
  08.16.2020 - 7:48 pm
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Some clarification. I saw a video that a fan shot from the stands. It
looks like Logano got into Bowman who got into Bubba. This was into Turn
1. Wallace seemed to confirm that on his twitter.

https://twitter.com/ryanpistana/status/1295139633119006720?s=21


  284.   Mile501 posted:
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Kevin Harvick's 17th is just his 2nd finish outside the top 15 this
season and ends a streak of 9 consecutive top 5 finishes.

Clint Bowyer was the highest-finishing SHR driver for the first time
since Kansas last fall (2019). In fact, he was the only SHR car to
finish in the top 15. The last time that happened was 3 years ago at
Loudon and Dover (fall 2017).

4 Ford finished in the top 10, each from a different organization. This
means each multi-car Ford organization had 1 team finish in the top 10
today.


  285.   Sector posted:
  08.16.2020 - 8:11 pm
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#281 If you're going to be like that, then tell me; What's the
difference between this and the Charlotte ROVAL?

So yes, it is, in fact, a ROVAL.

#282 Correct, but Mile501 mentioned last week that the Pole Award is
being offered for this formula, so if it isn't being counted then what's
the point?


  286.   William24ByronFan posted:
  08.16.2020 - 8:11 pm
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51 is a Chevrolet


  287.   William24ByronFan posted:
  08.16.2020 - 8:11 pm
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53 is a Ford


  288.   Tarheel posted:
  08.16.2020 - 8:39 pm
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281, yes it's a roval. It doesn't matter what the official name is, it's
a roval. It's part road course, part oval. Roval.


  289.   Racinglife97 posted:
  08.16.2020 - 8:41 pm
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Sponsor updates

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#47 - Kroger / Minute / Slim Jim / NOS


  290.   Canadianfan posted:
  08.16.2020 - 8:49 pm
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From Bob Pockrass:

Tech complete in the Cup garage. Elliott is the winner. Harvick & Truex
had 1 missing/loose lug nut (monetary fine).


  291.   BroadcastingBrothers posted:
  08.16.2020 - 8:49 pm
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#53 sponsor: Solid Start True Brand


  292.   Chase9Fan posted:
  08.16.2020 - 9:01 pm
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Also, get rid of that last chicane. It's not needed.


  293.   Canadianfan posted:
  08.16.2020 - 9:13 pm
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@292

Denny Hamlin said NASCAR chose the right package for this track because
data showed they'd be running 200+ in the other package and Cup cars
don't have big enough brakes to slow them down.


  294.   JR-TV posted:
  08.16.2020 - 9:22 pm
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The #51 was a Chevrolet.


  295.   Sector posted:
  08.16.2020 - 9:31 pm
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I read in some of the stream's chat that someone thought they should've
just went around the entire Daytona oval track under caution to speed up
the caution breaks, because running the entire infield section took
longer to get around. While I understand how that could've been faster,
sometime faster isn't better.


  296.   Anonymous posted:
  08.16.2020 - 9:31 pm
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Next week's starting lineup is below. Note that some of the backmarker
cars will likely have driver changes, and if so positions 34-39 could
shuffle around. Also note that if anyone other than Grala starts in the
3 next week, they will start 33rd instead of 11th (with everyone else
obviously moving up 1 position).

1 Chase
2 Hamlin
3 Truex
4 Bowyer
5 Logano
6 Johnson
7 Brad
8 Byron
9 Kurt
10 Harvick
11 Grala (drops to 33rd if anyone but Grala drives next week)
12 Bowman
13 Buescher
14 Jones
15 MattD
16 McDowell
17 Reddick
18 Almirola
19 Bell
20 Stenhouse
21 Blaney
22 Custer
23 Kyle
24 Newman
25 Bubba
26 Tdillon
27 Kenseth
28 Preece
29 Suarez
30 Lajoie
31 Poole
32 Nemechek
33 Hill
34 Davison
35 Yeley
36 Houff
37 Smithley
38 Barrett
39 Gaughan


  297.   Anonymous posted:
  08.16.2020 - 9:32 pm
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288 - Yes, but Daytona is a tri-oval.


  298.   Corey posted:
  08.16.2020 - 10:04 pm
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@295 I agree with you. I noticed that the stage breaks were only 1 lap
apiece. Fans should be applauding NASCAR for getting back to racing so
quick. The long lap length is the reason why they were able to do it.


  299.   LS318 posted:
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@248, he was 6 laps down. The team knew his car was a hooptie but sent
it back out anyway. They knew it wasn't going to hold up for the last 9
laps. It's manipulation at its worst. They sent a ticking time bomb onto
the track with damaged rear suspension, brakes, and tires, knowing it
was going to cause a caution that their golden boy needed to beat an
equally talented driver, almost half his age in ungodly inferior
equipment and tie his win total with the vastly superior and more
talented Kevin Harvick. The fact that he couldn't close the deal on a
f**king Chevy, which is a shoebox on wheels, is all you need to know
about Dennis and the poser sham Gibbs team.


  300.   Chase9Fan posted:
  08.16.2020 - 11:00 pm
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Are these poles these guys getting counting towards career poles? They
shouldn't.


  301.   Yeet posted:
  08.16.2020 - 11:22 pm
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@300 they aren't I don't believe.


  302.   Ryan posted:
  08.16.2020 - 11:22 pm
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@299

Whether they tried to manipulate the race or not, Kyle had no business
going back out on the track. The odds he had scoring another
championship point was very slim. The odds on him not making the
playoffs are very slim. There was more here that meets the eye and it
shouldn't be forgotten. Your Harvick and Elliott theory are very possible.

If indeed his car was a ticking time bomb he had no business being out
there. It wouldn't be the first time JGR manipulated a race, see
Richmond #1 2008. Dirty tactics for sure.


  303.   Vaxen posted:
  08.17.2020 - 1:34 am
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Why did the #77 have a driver change?


  304.   Anthony posted:
  08.17.2020 - 1:34 am
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First time Harvick didn't lead a lap since Homestead.


  305.   Sector posted:
  08.17.2020 - 1:34 am
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#299 & #302

Interestingly enough, Hamlin has finished second 5 times, just as he has
won 5 times.

Three of those second place finishes? Came in the last three weeks; Lost
to Keselowski at New Hampshire, Harvick at Michigan and Elliott at the
Daytona ROVAL.

Granted it's nothing to be worried about but... Just goes to show he's
not getting them done.


  306.   Anonymous posted:
  08.17.2020 - 1:34 am
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@302 Not accusing you of this, but I find it funny/ironic that people
are so open to this kind of conspiracy theory, but so significantly
against the conspiracy theory of the "random" draw that had to be
abolished. But I digress....

This is actually why I am in favor of a slightly different format/policy
for DNFs. Rather than a timed clock to get fixed on a crash, and
unlimited time for mechanical issues, I've always been in favor of a
"number of laps down" policy. This would differ track to track of
course, as 5 laps here and 5 laps at Martinsville are very different.
Anyway, just choose a relevant number of laps per track, and if a driver
goes down that many laps, regardless of the reason, they are out. This
would have prevented both the 18 and 77 from returning to the track in
this one. The 77 car has actually done this many times, for example they
were 50 laps down at Martinsville earlier this year and still out there.
Just pick a lap amount that makes sense for the given track, like maybe
for this race 4 laps would make sense, but Martinsville maybe 10-15. As
soon as you are that many laps down, you're out.


  307.   Anthony2 posted:
  08.17.2020 - 1:34 am
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Chase Elliott is indeed the first driver since Tony Stewart to win three
straight road course races. Part of that three win streak for both
Stewart & Elliott was dominating Watkins Glen in 2005 & 2019
respectively. Though I doubt that Chase will pass the record Jeff Gordon
set with six wins in a row, but keep in mind that Chase has four road
course wins at the age of 24, Jeff Gordon didn't win on a road course
until he was 26.


  308.   Anonymous posted:
  08.17.2020 - 1:35 am
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Quick aside on my starting lineup post @296. I'm guessing RCR is going
to have Austin Dillon on the entry list, and not declare him out until
the last possible moment in case he can be cleared. Should he not be
able to race, and should they select Kaz for the 3, NASCAR in there
always short-sighted decision making will probably consider it a
"post-entry driver change" or something along those lines, and make them
start last. RCR would be smart to put Kaz on the entry list, or at least
finding out what NASCAR's official rule will be to ensure Kaz can start
11th if he's the driver.

Put Kaz on the entry list, and if Austin can race, make the switch.
They'd give up the 11th spot if Austin drives anyway. If Austin is
announced and then does start, he starts 33rd, so no big loss to drop
from 33rd to 38th-40th on a late-announced driver change. But, if Kaz
drives the car and has to start 38th-40th on a technicality when he
"earned" the 11th starting position, well to put in kindly, that would
not be cool.


  309.   BroadcastingBrothers posted:
  08.17.2020 - 1:35 am
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#43 sponsor: DoorDash (the company's name is one word with both of the
D's capitalized)


  310.   rm posted:
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Here's a rarity for the Cup series, looking ahead at the schedule - we
very well could have two consecutive races coming up in which the two
unique defending winners of the races aren't entered: Dover-II with Kyle
Larson and then Daytona Oval-II with Justin Haley, should Spire/Kaulig
not work out a ride for him. Even more rare is that neither upcoming
scenario is a result of retirement or injury, the usual culprits that
would explain anything like that situation.


  311.   Canadianfan posted:
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@303

Reed was originally supposed to be in the #77 but on Friday they
announced that Stanton Barrett would be in the #77 instead. Reed became
the backup for the #51 in case Davison stayed in Indianapolis.


  312.   BroadcastingBrothers posted:
  08.17.2020 - 4:06 am
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#62 sponsor: Beard Oil/South Point Hotel & Casino (right now, it is
incorrectly listed as the ?South Park Hotel & Casino?, which would be a
cool place if it existed as South Park is my favorite TV show of all
time, but I digress)
#77 sponsor: Cardinal Village Resort


  313.   RandomFacts posted:
  08.17.2020 - 8:38 am
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They were trying to get Kyle as many points as possible, they did not
put him back on the track to manipulate the finish.There is a chance he
could miss the playoffs and they know that

I dont think the sponsers would appreciate them just giving up when they
were able to repair the car to run a few laps also.


  314.   Anon1 posted:
  08.17.2020 - 9:19 am
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@298 Were the stage breaks really just 1 lap and then back to racing?
That's what it says here and everywhere else, but that seems impossible.
Everyone pitted on the caution lap and went back to racing on the very
next lap???

I know that a caution lap here took at least 3 minutes so it's not a
question of time, but no way did NASCAR open the pits on the same lap
the yellow waved. Did they?


  315.   David posted:
  08.17.2020 - 9:25 am
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Having watched the race, I'd say you are probably correct but NASCAR's
flag status data which was posted during the race says that stage 1
ended after lap 15, lap 16 was run under yellow, and racing resumed on
lap 17.

I think it was really lap _18_ when they went green, and the same thing
happened after stage 2. Someone could check the video if they really
cared...


  316.   JSPorts posted:
  08.17.2020 - 9:27 am
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Playoff standings with 3 races to go:

Locked in:
1st: Kevin Harvick, 6 wins
2nd: Denny Hamlin, 5 wins
3rd: Brad Keselowski, 3 wins
4th: Chase Elliott, 2 wins
5th: Joey Logano, 2 wins
6th: Ryan Blaney, 1 win
7th: Martin Truex, Jr, 1 win
8th: Alex Bowman, 1 win
9th: Austin Dillon, 1 win
10th: Cole Custer, 1 win

Should make it on points:
11th: Aric Almirola, +130
12th: Kurt Busch, +121
13th: Kyle Busch, +100
14th: Clint Bowyer, +66

On the bubble:
15th: Matt DiBenedetto, +44
16th: William Byron, +25
---------------------------
17th: Jimmie Johnson, -25
18th: Erik Jones, -35
19th: Tyler Reddick, -57

Probably needs a win:
20th: Christopher Bell, -146
21st: Bubba Wallace, -165
22nd: Chris Buescher, -174
23rd: Michael McDowell, -174
24th: Ricky Stenhouse Jr, -181
25th: Ryan Newman -221
26th: John H. Nemechek, -234
27th: Ty Dillon, -235
28th: Matt Kenseth, -250
29th: Corey LaJoie, -290
30th: Ryan Preece, -308
31st: Daniel Suarez, -329

Virtually eliminated:
32nd: Brennan Poole, -414
33rd: Quin Houff, -452


  317.   JSPorts posted:
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Like I posted in Xfinity yesterday, I created a formula to calculate
likelihood of winning the championship for each driver. Here are the
current standings for Cup:

1st: Kevin Harvick, 22% chance of winning the championship
2nd: Denny Hamlin, 18%
3rd: Brad Keselowski, 13%
4th: Chase Elliott, 10%
5th: Joey Logano, 9%
6th: Ryan Blaney, 6%
7th: Martin Truex, Jr, 5%
8th: Alex Bowman, 4%
9th: Aric Almirola, 2%
10th: Austin Dillon, 2%
11th: Cole Custer, 2%
12th: Kurt Busch, 1%
13th: Clint Bowyer, 1%
14th: Kyle Busch, 1%
15th: William Byron, 1%
16th: Jimmie Johnson, 0%
17th: Tyler Reddick, 0%
18th: Ricky Stenhouse Jr, 0%

* 0% indicates a non-zero decimal number, but under 0.5. I rounded to
the closest integer.

Most likely championship 4: Kevin Harvick, Denny Hamlin, Brad Keselowski
& Chase Elliott


  318.   Luke posted:
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No. 51 from James Davison was a Chevrolet (however NASCAR says it was a
Ford)...we have a picture of the car here:
https://www.jayski.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/31/2020/8/16/daytona-51.jpg


  319.   Charlie posted:
  08.17.2020 - 10:18 am
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#317 - DiBenedetto doesn't even make the cut?


  320.   Corey posted:
  08.17.2020 - 12:38 pm
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@314,315 I think there is a technicality in regards to the lap after the
stage end. This past race Chase took the green and white checkered at
the end of Lap 15 and starts Lap 16. While the running order freezes at
the line, the track is still under green conditions until the rest of
the Top 10 crosses it, then the caution flag is actually thrown.

The pace car is probably positioned in a spot where they can quickly
pick up the field on the same lap. They can then open pit road and begin
lap 17. Everyone pits and give the long lap time, NASCAR can check the
order and give the going green symbol on the same lap. Green flag waves
to start lap 18. Also, keep in mind that road courses don't have a one
to go signal at the line. Usually they have another point along the
track, where they'll tell the teams going green this time by.


  321.   Canadianfan posted:
  08.17.2020 - 3:55 pm
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From Adam Stern:

@NBC earned 3.263 million viewers (including streaming) for yesterday's
NASCAR Cup Series road course race at Daytona; last year's Watkins Glen
race earned 2.7 million viewers, but it was on NBCSN.

? Saturday's Xfinity Series event at Daytona on @NBCSN earned 1.035
million.


  322.   ScottB posted:
  08.17.2020 - 4:46 pm
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With 23 of 36 races completed:

31 drivers have attempted all 23 events. Drivers expected at the start
of the season to run the full schedule who have not are Newman (injury),
Larson (released), Johnson and A. Dillon (tested COVID positive).

29 drivers have actually started all 23 events (Suarez and Yeley have
DNQ's).

If no other full time drivers miss races, 2020 and 2018 will be tied at
29 for the lowest total since 2013, when only 28 drivers started all 36
races.

The 2013 stat is due in part to the fields being large and competitive
enough to create more DNQ's than we are currently seeing.


  323.   ScottB posted:
  08.17.2020 - 4:59 pm
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Actually, I'm going to retract the last part of that comment. ^^^

Looking more closely at 2013, DNQ's were not as much of a factor as I
thought.


  324.   Corey posted:
  08.17.2020 - 9:03 pm
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A lot of drivers are showing their retro schemes for Darlington. Tyler
Reddick will have an interesting one. This year he will honor Jeff
Burton's 1994 rookie season. The #8 car will have the ?Raybestos brakes?
colors with Caterpillar sponsorship. What makes it interesting is that
not only was Caterpillar a former Burton sponsor, but the #8 was the
number Burton had during the 94 season with the Stavola Brothers.


  325.   An_Aussie_Commentator posted:
  08.17.2020 - 10:13 pm
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#306 So like they do in the Australian Supercars, where you fall more
than 25% of the race distance behind the leaders, you're Out?


  326.   Canadianfan posted:
  08.18.2020 - 12:29 pm
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From ShowBuzzDaily:

After looking at the numbers the Cup race with 3.237 million viewers was
the number one viewed sporting event of the week. The next closest was
the PGA Tour Wyndham Championship with 2.421 million views on Sunday.


  327.   danny posted:
  08.18.2020 - 2:05 pm
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whoa 3.2 million viewers and most watched sporting event this week thats
really huge good news that I know the sport needed. Given what we've
seen lately thats really good news that they were number 1 this week I
think its the 1st time since well everybody came back from pandemic
break and I guess NASCAR PGA or something else not named NBA, MLB, NHL,
and MLS. Yes I would I guess agree with you. Yay!!!


  328.   Canadianfan posted:
  08.18.2020 - 3:54 pm
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I saw several comments about people talking about the pole award. Jayski
just posted the contingency awards and on page 1 was

Busch Pole Award Winners (5)

Ricky Stenhouse Jr. (#47)
Clint Bowyer (#14)
Chase Elliott (#9)
Kurt Busch (#1)
Kevin Harvick (#4)

So that confirms Harvick's will count to the official records.


  329.   Sector posted:
  08.18.2020 - 5:26 pm
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#328 So does that mean in the standings he should have 1 instead of 0?
And Chase Elliott after the first Dover race will have 2?


  330.   Bob posted:
  08.18.2020 - 5:26 pm
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As a few already said the No. 51 was a Chevrolet

Picture:
https://www.motorsport.com/nascar-cup/photos/james-davison-petty-ware-racing-ford-mustang-jacob-construction-48168389/48168389/


  331.   Maverick20 posted:
  08.18.2020 - 5:33 pm
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Whoops, someone posted it before I did.


  332.   Maverick20 posted:
  08.18.2020 - 5:44 pm
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According to Jayski, the winners of the poles in the new system will
officially be credited with a pole.

https://t.co/vIM2hUKIRk?amp=1


  333.   Canadianfan posted:
  08.18.2020 - 5:48 pm
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@329

Considering it is an official document from NASCAR, yes it should be
changed.


  334.   Sector posted:
  08.18.2020 - 7:15 pm
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Chase Elliott's stage 1 win in this race ties Brad Keselowski for most
of the 2020 season at this point (both with 6 stage wins apiece). Denny
Hamlin winning stage 2 was his 5th, becoming the fourth driver to win at
least 5 stages and tying Kevin Harvick. These are the Top 4 as far as
stage winners at this point.


  335.   danny posted:
  08.19.2020 - 3:03 pm
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Say, did I say NASCAR at Daytona road course had most viewers last
weekend, Amongst all sports last Sunday, Well yes, But bad news is this
You had lowest rated Daytona race since get this 1997!!!! I was 5!!!!
Well also lowest watched Daytona race not counting rain delays or
postponements. You had good news but I am afraid again you got bad news
and more record lows!!!! My my, I hope you guys on the Weekly Podcast
mention it again but this time give me a true reason for why they're
down. Well they won't be good too sunday and I know why Indy 500! I also
love firestones more than Goodyear right now.


  336.   KentuckyOffroadRider posted:
  08.19.2020 - 3:44 pm
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@335 How do you know this? Where do you to find ratings for every race
going back to far as 1997? I'd be curious to just scroll back and see
how some races fared


  337.   Canadianfan posted:
  08.19.2020 - 3:44 pm
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@335

All sports are down Danny and the NFL I bet will be as well.


  338.   Canadianfan posted:
  08.19.2020 - 3:53 pm
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@336

Frontstretch has back to 2008. Using the wayback machine it would be
possible to look at older ratings from Jayski.


  339.   RaceFanX posted:
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The top-4 starters, Kevin Harvick, Denny Hamlin, Martin Truex, Jr., and
Kyle Busch, all made a pre-race gentlemen's agreement to take it easy
into Turn 1 at the start. They wanted to avoid a crash at the start
given this was the first race on a somewhat unknown track.


  340.   Ryan posted:
  08.23.2020 - 1:10 pm
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@306

"@302 Not accusing you of this, but I find it funny/ironic that people
are so open to this kind of conspiracy theory"

It happened at Richmond in 2008.

@313

That's just it. He couldn't gain anything or lose anything. It was
pointless to put him back out there.


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