|| *Comments on Circuit de Spa Francorchamps:* View the most recent comment <#27> | Post a comment <#post> 1. Beau posted: 11.16.2010 - 4:15 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Part of the circuit utilizes public roads. 2. Biscuits in a Red Bull posted: 11.08.2011 - 11:29 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) One of the best, picturesque and deadly racing circuits ever. Officials at Paul Ricard are considering doing a deal with the Belgian GP to run a French GP there every few years replacing the Belgian GP. 3. TeamPlayersBlue posted: 07.08.2012 - 8:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Signed a contract with FOM until 2016, no year-by-year switching. My favourite track in the world 4. Cassie posted: 08.06.2014 - 1:20 am Rate this comment: (0) (1) "One of the best, picturesque and deadly racing circuits ever." Err... far more people have been killed at Monza. 5. Anonymous posted: 04.19.2015 - 5:18 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) From 1950 to 1970, the track was a street circuit and should have an "S" 6. RaceFanX posted: 08.23.2015 - 11:08 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Home of the legendary Eau Rouge corner. 7. kup posted: 12.02.2017 - 7:28 am Rate this comment: (1) (1) Formula One Circuit de Spa Francorchamps 1931-2017 # races: 54 UPS: universal points system. Driver's UPoints = Kilometers / Aver.Finish 1 308 Caberto Conelli 1 308 / 1.0 1 308 William Grover-Williams 1 308 / 1.0 911 Alberto Ascari 2 005 / 2.2 678 Michael Schumacher 4 202 / 6.2 675 Rudolf Hasse 1 013 / 1.5 654 Baconin Borzacchini 1 308 / 2.0 613 Jimmy Clark 3 003 / 4.9 551 Ayrton Senna 2 425 / 4.4 547 Felipe Massa 3 939 / 7.2 529 Nico Rosberg 3 068 / 5.8 521 Damon Hill 2 134 / 4.1 506 Hermann Lang 1 013 / 2.0 500 Luigi Fagioli 1 000 / 2.0 491 Luigi Villoresi 1 963 / 4.0 491 Alain Prost 2 403 / 4.9 472 Sebastian Vettel 3 117 / 6.6 455 Nino Farina 2 733 / 6.0 429 Kimi Raikkonen 3 477 / 8.1 421 Ferdinando Minoia 1 263 / 3.0 421 Giovanni Minozzi 1 263 / 3.0 419 Bruce McLaren 2 637 / 6.3 412 Juan Manuel Fangio 2 471 / 6.0 402 Richie Ginther 2 411 / 6.0 381 Tazio Nuvolari 1 714 / 4.5 364 Jack Brabham 3 314 / 9.1 362 Dan Gurney 2 496 / 6.9 358 Maurice Trintignant 2 724 / 7.6 353 Paul Frere 2 118 / 6.0 345 Mike Hawthorn 1 934 / 5.6 320 David Coulthard 3 168 / 9.9 315 Ralf Schumacher 2 238 / 7.1 311 Mark Webber 2 492 / 8.0 308 Brian Lewis 1 234 / 4.0 308 Henry Birkin 1 234 / 4.0 301 Graham Hill 2 947 / 9.8 289 Olivier Gendebien 1 241 / 4.3 286 Pedro Rodriguez 1 142 / 4.0 283 Fernando Alonso 3 143 / 11.1 282 Louis Rosier 2 457 / 8.7 278 Lewis Hamilton 2 500 / 9.0 275 Rubens Barrichello 3 518 / 12.8 274 Jacques Villeneuve 2 195 / 8.0 269 Jenson Button 3 196 / 11.9 254 Jackie Stewart 1 424 / 5.6 253 Hans Stuck 505 / 2.0 248 Mika Hakkinen 2 280 / 9.2 248 Phil Hill 1 734 / 7.0 239 Jo Siffert 2 369 / 9.9 231 Andre Pilette 1 991 / 8.6 229 Martin Brundle 2 561 / 11.2 228 Jarno Trulli 3 282 / 14.4 224 Mika Salo 1 833 / 8.2 217 Nico Hulkenberg 1 842 / 8.5 213 Johnny Claes 1 878 / 8.8 210 Heinz-Harald Frentzen 1 847 / 8.8 208 Nelson Piquet 1 666 / 8.0 207 Giancarlo Fisichella 2 358 / 11.4 206 Adrian Sutil 2 143 / 10.4 186 Johnny Herbert 2 321 / 12.5 182 Gerhard Berger 2 476 / 13.6 165 Jean Alesi 2 325 / 14.1 147 Andrea de Cesaris 2 149 / 14.6 8. JSPorts posted: 12.02.2017 - 8:52 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) I like the idea for that points system, but maybe there should be some way to have a certain number of races before a driver is qualified. Cause otherwise you end up with two guys tied for 1st who have 1 start each while Michael Schumacher (who had 6 wins there) ends up 4th. 9. nascar_vd /racing-reference.info posted: 12.02.2017 - 11:26 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) Ridiculous due to the different track configuration length from the early years to present (specially here with length from simple to double) 10. kup posted: 12.02.2017 - 2:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (1) We can add some "filters" like SQR (square root) for the KM (and) Av.Fin . 1 308 Caberto Conelli 1 308 / 1.0 SQR(1308) = 36.17 and SQR(1.0) = 1.00 UPS(SQR): 36.17 Caberto Conelli 36.17 / 1.00 36.17 William Grover-Williams 36.17 / 1.00 30.26 Alberto Ascari 44.78 / 1.48 26.03 Michael Schumacher 64.82 / 2.49 24.80 Jimmy Clark 54.80 / 2.21 23.45 Ayrton Senna 49.24 / 2.10 22.18 Alain Prost 49.02 / 2.21 21.72 Sebastian Vettel 55.83 / 2.57 20.29 Juan Manuel Fangio 49.71 / 2.45 And then multiply UPS(SQR) by SQR(# driver's races) 104.12 Michael Schumacher 26.03 * 4.0 (SQR(16)) 72.11 Sebastian Vettel 21.72 * 3.32 70.35 Ayrton Senna 23.45 * 3.0 70.18 Jimmy Clark 24.80 * 2.83 66.54 Alain Prost 22.18 * 3.0 60.52 Alberto Ascari 30.26 * 2.0 (SQR(4)) 49.71 Juan Manuel Fangio 20.29 * 2.45 36.17 Caberto Conelli 36.17 * 1.0 36.17 William Grover-Williams 36.17 * 1.0 Anyway F1 results are mostly depend on car/team power and much less on drivers. And not only power, but car/team power + reliability. Every decade teams are growing in $ize, thus reducing the driver's role. 11. German500 posted: 06.29.2019 - 10:29 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) @8 I do not. Because a bad result in one race can cause to lower your points. A points system should be incremental. Why not simply adding the points (km/finish) from all races? Even with a bad result, you can never lost any points you have from previous races. 12. Canadianfan posted: 09.03.2019 - 11:44 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) The track director Nathalie Maillet announced they are bring back gravel run-off at the Eau Rouge/Raidillon complex. This is not because of Hubert's fatal accident but because they would once again like to host MotoGP which hasn't been on the calendar since 1990. 13. Eric posted: 09.03.2019 - 1:49 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Wow, just think if the lightbulb went off in their head to bring MotoGP back just a few weeks earlier, the F2 race may have had a different outcome. 14. BiscuitsInARedBull posted: 09.03.2019 - 2:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 13 - Installing a gravel run-off is not a process that will take a few weeks. They would have waited until the winter to start work. It would have taken this sort of decision to be made around September 2018 at the latest, and even then, probably much earlier. 15. Canadianfan posted: 09.03.2019 - 4:08 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @14 Yes the decision was made a few months ago and they hope to file all the necessary permits by the end of the year and start construction next spring. Also the article which was translated from French sounds like they might be changing Raidillon a bit. Although that could be a mistranslation. ?Work is planned at the Raidillon for the 24 Heures Motos, which will take place in 2022. The clearances will be increased and studied so that there are no more frontal shocks...? 16. Eric posted: 09.03.2019 - 11:29 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) I didn't realize it was quite a process to install gravel traps and the like. My apologies 17. Canadianfan posted: 04.15.2020 - 6:44 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) From Andrew Benson: Belgium has banned mass gatherings until 31 Aug, the day after its GP. But context is F1 has effectively ripped up the calendar and is starting again. So the race can't take place on its original date. But, as with others, that doesn't necessarily mean it can't take place at all. 18. Unser1 posted: 04.16.2020 - 10:28 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) The earlier versions of Spa were insane. Watch "Grand Prix" to see it, they literally had houses right alongside the racing surface with no barriers or anything. 19. Canadianfan posted: 04.16.2020 - 1:53 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) @18 There are several video games that recreate the track either through community mods or done by the game developers. In real life most of those roads are still there and thanks to this guy you can see what they look like today. https://youtu.be/JU9wUCg1lqM 20. RaceFanX posted: 04.16.2020 - 2:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Project CARS 2 features both the modern and classic Spa. They also have modern Le Mans with the classic 1971 setup as DLC. 21. Canadianfan posted: 05.15.2020 - 1:14 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) From Autosport: The Belgian government has approved Formula 1's plans to host its 30 August round at Spa-Francorchamps. 22. RaceFanX posted: 06.11.2020 - 10:27 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The famous Tour de France bicycle race has featured Spa-Francorchamps as part of its route three times in 1980, 1989, and 2017. In 1980 it was part of an individual time trial. In 1989 the raced ended its third stage with several laps of the track. In 2017 the route for the third stage, going from Verviers, Belgium to Longwy, France, saw the peloton ride through the front gate of the track, do a lap of the circuit, turn off, and then ride right back out the front gate before continuing onward back to France. Notably during bicycle races because of the difference in speed they would let spectators out onto the Spa track, allowing fans to line the corner at Eau Rouge and other locations to watch the peloton pedal past. As you'd expect this track is also very challenging on a bike given how steep its inclines are. 23. Iamthedebris posted: 06.11.2020 - 11:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @22 Interesting. I wonder if it'd be possible to do a bicycle race at Nurburgring Nordschleife would be possible, if a challenge for a schedule to fit in, considering people run in Nuremburg all the time for races. 24. Mannoroth posted: 06.12.2020 - 11:30 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) 22. It's really cool to see professional cyclists on a racing circuit. Especially when they fight for the win in a sprint to the start/finish line. Some stage races even have the entire stage on some circuit like Abu Dhabi Tour that had a stage at Yas Marina circuit, which had 110 kilometers. 23. On a bicycle? I'm sure it would be a great one day race. That circuit has 21 kilometers, so let's make it a 10-lap race (210 kilometers) and let's see, who wins. #GP de Nürburgring-Nordschleife 25. Canadianfan posted: 10.09.2020 - 1:03 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) From Motorsport: Gravel traps will return to several corners at the legendary Spa-Francorchamps (@circuitspa) as part of an ?80m revamp that could lead to a #MotoGP race, and includes a huge new grandstand overlooking Eau Rouge. 26. possum posted: 10.09.2020 - 6:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @25 - good! It's nice to see the irrational desire to pave everything is fading, and the safer gravel traps are returning. 27. RaceFanX posted: 02.21.2021 - 4:41 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) The original "Bus Stop" chicane was added here at Spa during the track's reconfiguration in 1981. Spa was still largely an open road circuit at the time and the name was originally literal, the new chicane actually was the result of rerouting the track to absorb an existing bus stop as part of the circuit. The name fast became a go-to name for all loop chicanes, such as the famous one on the backstretch at Daytona. The Bus Stop would become part of the permanent track when the Spa gained its current road course form although it has since been reconfigured several times to make it slower and no longer has its original design. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Post a comment:* Your comment may not appear immediately - all comments must be approved by the moderator. 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