|| *Comments on Nurburgring:* View the most recent comment <#29> | Post a comment <#post> 1. Beau posted: 11.16.2010 - 1:06 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hosted the German Grand Prix almost every year from 1951 until 1976, with the exceptions of 1955 (AVUS Circuit in Berlin) and 1970 (Hockenheim). 2. Beau posted: 11.16.2010 - 1:08 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) Hosted the European Grand Prix from 1984-85 and again from 1995-96 and 1999-2007. The 1997-98 events there were under the guise of the "Luxembourg Grand Prix" and the 2009 event was the German Grand Prix. 3. RaceFanX posted: 03.27.2011 - 12:22 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) Nicknamed "The Green Hell" and considered by many to be THE race track in its long form. Its 22.810 km/14.173 mile Nordschleife configuration is one of the most difficult and famous tracks in the world. It's a must have for most serious auto racing video games such as Gran Turismo and Forza and the track's real-life popularity has gone up since it was included in them. The track hosts the famous 24 Hours of the Nurburgring for touring cars on a special layout that combines the Nordschleife with the Grand Prix course. The track is noted for how much testing car makers do here, everyone from BMW to Cadillac has tuned their cars here, and lately brands have taken to selling cars based on their "Ring time." The all-time record for the Nordschleife belongs to the late F1 racer Stefan Bellof who did a lap of 6:11.13 in a Porsche 956 before a World Sportscar Championship event in 1983. The fastest time for a non-race car is 6:47.50 by the Pagani Zonda R (which is basically a race car in every way but actually racing) driven by racer Marc Basseng with the fastest production vehicle right behind it as racer Michael Vergers lapped the track in 6:48 with a Radical SR8 LM (again, like the Zonda R that's not a race car in name only). Even with its extreme difficulty the track is also noted for be largely open to the public. When there is no racing, testing or other private events going on the track functions as a one-way, public toll-road and anyone with a road-legal car or motorcycle can drive it. If you do be careful, there is no speed limit and if you aren't careful you could end up in the barriers. Leading off the track's "open to the public" status it has become quite the tourist destination over the years. Of late there have been attempts to play off that with the construction of hotels, a mall and a roller coaster called the "Ring Racer" but they have brought issues as the they built using an inaccurate, inflated guest total. We'll see what the future holds for the iconic Ring. 4. Racing through Adversity posted: 07.17.2011 - 3:06 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) In 38 runnings of the GP, only eight men have led every lap and won the race. Rubens Barrichello is the only man of eight to have won the GP, in 2002, from a starting position of less than P1. Carlos Reutemann in a Brabham BT44B starting from tenth, won the 1975 GP. Johnny Herbert won the 1999 GP from P14 in a Stewart SF3. Fernando Alonso, starting from sixth, won the 2005 GP, a race which has the most lead changes record by 2. Starting from P22, Markus Winkelhock lead laps 2-7 and retired. Ferrari's Felipe Massa led laps 14-55 and finished second. 5. Maverick posted: 10.23.2016 - 11:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 14.173 mile one lap configuration? I feel like this place should be used for marathons when it's not used for racing. 6. RaceFanX posted: 09.23.2017 - 1:35 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Jackie Stewart was the one who gave this track the nicknamed "The Green Hell." He won here three times in F1. 7. joey2448 posted: 06.29.2018 - 6:06 am Rate this comment: (2) (0) Just saw that the all-time 'Ring lap record fell today in astounding fashion. Stefan Bellof's iconic 1983 time of 6:11.13 in his Porsche 956C was crushed by 52 seconds! Timo Bernhard now owns the record after running a lap of 5:19.55 in the Porsche 919 Hybrid Evo LMP1 car. Wowwwwww!!!! 8. Mannoroth posted: 06.29.2018 - 12:09 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) 7. If they wanted a proper record lap at Nürburgring, they would give Sabine Schmitz the fastest car in the world to run the best possible lap. Because there isn't any other person that knows the track better than her. And I really don't think any other person has completed over 30 000 laps on that track (for example, one 24 hours of Nürburgring is approximately 700 laps - that's over 40 24 hours of Nürburgring completed by one person). 9. joey2448 posted: 06.29.2018 - 11:54 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Has she really run 30k laps??? That's insane! How many hours does that equate to? 10. joey2448 posted: 06.29.2018 - 11:58 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) Also, you say a 24-hour race on the Nurburgring is approximately 700 laps? I'm not sure about that, since Le Mans this year finished up at 388 laps, and that lap is shorter than the 'Ring. In fact I just looked it up, the distance record for the Nurburgring 24 hours is 159 laps in 2014. 11. Mannoroth posted: 06.30.2018 - 3:18 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) 9. Yes, it's insane - like being a professional driver and running only one track over and over again. Anyway, her average lap at Nürburgring is about 10 minutes, so it's 300 000 minutes and that's 5000 hours, if I'm counting properly. And that's about 208 days. 10. I'm sorry - I got confused with other 24-hour race. You're right - it's about 140-150 laps. And that means her number of 30 000 laps is even more insane (30k divided with 140 is approximately 214 24 hours of Nürburgring). And according to her words, she adds about 1000 laps every year despite not running the "Nürburgring taxi" anymore. 12. Ferret posted: 06.30.2018 - 9:45 am Rate this comment: (1) (0) Also of note it held the Nurburgring 84 Hours in the 60s/70s, won by one Helmut Marko. Yes, that is 84 hours around the Ring. It didn't last but for a few years....it was a highly prestigious event. I can't think of many longer events time wise than 84 hours around the Ring. 13. Mannoroth posted: 06.30.2018 - 10:34 am Rate this comment: (0) (0) 12. Why 84 hours and not something like 72 or 96 hours? Why exactly 3 days and 12 hours? 14. Canadianfan posted: 07.23.2020 - 2:13 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) There are ongoing negotiations for this facility to hold an F1 race this year for the first time since 2013. 15. Jimmie4life posted: 07.23.2020 - 2:42 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) F1 should return to the track. I always liked the smaller design for how it was still a bit larger than what a normal F1 track would be, but also incorporated some of the original 15 mile/22 kilometre track into it. 16. JFM01 posted: 07.23.2020 - 4:26 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @15 The GP track was built complertely new in 1984. The only thing that remains from the old Südschleife track was the start/finish-straight. That said, F1 should run the full track if they return, including the Nordschleife. 17. Canadianfan posted: 07.23.2020 - 4:48 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @16 Actually https://youtu.be/5Tub0XGA5uI Quite a bit of it is still there. It's a mixture of public and gravel roads now. But a lot of it is still there. 18. RaceFanX posted: 07.23.2020 - 6:01 pm Rate this comment: (1) (0) I'm not sure it would be safe to even attempt racing F1 cars around the Nordschleife now. Can it handle some wild speeds? Yup, and a demonstration run could be cool. But F1 speeds, in race conditions, on a track that unforgiving is a recipe for Trouble with a capital T. 19. Corey posted: 07.23.2020 - 6:19 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) @18 Why not? Every other vehicle known to man has tried going around it. This includes, DHL vans, coach buses, the A-team, etc... For anyone who doesn't know, there is a Youtuber who has a few videos of the strangest things he's seen go around the Nordschliefe during their open public days. 20. WhereAreTheBeers posted: 07.23.2020 - 6:41 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Why not? Maybe because the Nordschliefe would fail pretty much every modern FIA safety regulation in existence. As cool as it would be, there's about as much chance of F1 racing on the moon as ever racing on the Nordschliefe again 21. Corey posted: 07.23.2020 - 8:00 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The combined Nurburgring, the one used for the 24hr race, is a FIA Grade 3 track. Mount Panorama Circuit (Bathurst) is also a FIA Grade 3 track and Jenson Button took and F1 car around that place in 2011. No reason why the can't do a demonstration run. 22. WhereAreTheBeers posted: 07.23.2020 - 8:20 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) That I agree on. Far more plausible 23. Canadianfan posted: 07.23.2020 - 8:38 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) #21 They have On 28 April 2007 which hosted also a BMW publicity day for fans, Nick Heidfeld drove a BMW Sauber F1.06 Formula One car around the Nordschleife and short GP-track. For safety reasons, BMW had announced that the car was slowed with hard demonstration tires, maximum ride height, and 275 km/h top speed limited by the transmission. Heidfeld drove three laps on the combined Nordschleife, slowing down once in each lap when passing a camera car. 24. Canadianfan posted: 07.24.2020 - 1:34 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) From RaceFans: Nurburgring managing director Mirco Markfort hopes the circuit's unexpected return to the F1 calendar this year will lead to a long-term deal for it to host Germany's round of the world championship. The head of the Eifel circuit believes the best arrangement would be to revive the past arrangement under which it shared the race with Germany's other F1-grade track, the Hockenheimring in Baden-Wurttemburg. 25. Canadianfan posted: 10.09.2020 - 1:57 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) They were unable to practice today in Formula 1 because the medical helicopter could not takeoff. I've seen this happen from time to time. They will have one, one hour session tomorrow and there will be a contingency plan in place if this foggy weather continues. This unfortunately means that Mick Schumacher and Callum Ilott will not get any practice running until Abu Dhabi according to Binotto. 26. RaceFanX posted: 11.07.2020 - 3:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) Rock am Ring, Germany's largest music festival, is held at this track annually. It was initially held as a one-off event in 1985 but proved so successful it was almost every year afterward and has attracted many famous rock music acts from around the world. 27. RaceFanX posted: 11.07.2020 - 3:22 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) At the time it was under construction the Ring Racer roller coaster that was built here aimed to be the fastest roller coaster in the world with a top speed of 135 miles per hour. However the system never really worked and despite test runs at lower speed in 2009 the pneumatic launch coaster wasn't able to open until late in the track's 2013 tourist season with the top speed of only 99.4 miles per hour. It operated for only four days before a planned seasonal closure and then never reopened due to cost concerns regarding continued operation. Despite long being out of operation it is still standing; the track's owners shopped the roller coaster around to other major European theme parks but when they couldn't find a buyer they left it up with the hope of better finances eventually allowing its reopening. The racing-themed coaster is located along the front stretch of the Grand Prix layout with its launch area between one of the track's grandstands and the racing surface. To add insult to injury this coaster never stood a real chance to be the world's fastest. While working on the ride to build up its speed another Formula 1 racing-themed coaster demolished their hoped record. Formula Rossa at Abu Dhabi's Ferrari World theme park just outside the Yas Marina Circuit opened in 2010 and its top speed of 149.1 miles per hour assured the Ring Racer would never be a record setter. The coaster Ring Racer initially set out to top was Kingda Ka at Six Flags Great Adventure in New Jersey and its top speed of 128 miles per hours. 28. RaceFanX posted: 03.10.2021 - 2:28 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) The first race on the new Grand Prix circuit when it was built in 1984 was a doozy with the special one-off Nürburgring Race of Champions organized by Mercedes-Benz. Mercedes pulled out all the stops for the 12-lap May 12 exhibition race by producing a fleet of 20 identical, essentially stock Mercedes-Benz 190Es as the race cars and inviting every living F1 World Champion past and present to be involved in the race, some declined but many of them came out of retirement to be a part of the action. Several other star F1 drivers of the era, racing icons, and a few Nürburgring 1000 km winners also joined the lineup. The winner would be young Ayrton Senna, coming to the event hot off his great run in the rain at that year's Monaco Grand Prix. Senna was a late surprise entry as the F1 rookie got an invitation after Emerson Fittipaldi declined to take part due to the scheduling conflict with Indy 500 qualifying. The organizers were apparently not all that pleased that the then mostly unknown Senna beat all the big name stars but most participants didn't take the race all too seriously except for him, Alain Prost, and Niki Lauda. Prost was the polesitter with Senna making an aggressive pass to take the lead on the opening lap, forcing Prost off the track and down the running order. The final finishing order for the race was Senna, Niki Lauda, Carlos Reutemann, Keke Rosberg, John Watson, Denny Hulme, Jody Scheckter, Jack Brabham, Klaus Ludwig, James Hunt, John Surtees, Phil Hill, Manfred Schurti, Stirling Moss, Alain Prost, Udo Schütz, Jacques Laffite, Hans Herrmann, Elio de Angelis (-2 laps), and Alan Jones (DNF). Senna's winning #11 Mercedes is today preserved in the company's museum; this was one of only two major non-open wheel races Senna ever ran alongside the 1984 Nürburgring 1000 km here two months later. 29. Canadianfan posted: 04.16.2021 - 7:40 pm Rate this comment: (0) (0) RTL reporter Felix Görner says that according to their information, Germany (Nürburgring) can hope for a F1 race this year. According to their information, F1 is already booking hotels in that area. Nürburgring didn?t want to confirm the rumors. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Post a comment:* Your comment may not appear immediately - all comments must be approved by the moderator. Name: Comment: